The Michael Knowles Show - Daily Wire Backstage: Kamalye Faithful

Episode Date: December 6, 2019

Are the Dems giving Trump a big Christmas present with this Impeachment nonsense? Will Biden be forced to testify in the Senate about his dark Ukraine dealings? Now that Kamala is out, who will be the... next candidate to exit the race? Join this roundtable discussion featuring Ben Shapiro, Andrew Klavan, Michael Knowles, Daily Wire god-king Jeremy Boreing, and special guest Adam Carolla as they get to the bottom of these questions and more. Can't get enough of The Michael Knowles Show? Enjoy ad-free shows, live discussions, and more by becoming an ALL ACCESS member TODAY at: dailywire.com/Knowles Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, Michael Knowles here with the latest dispatches from the War on Christmas and so much more. In the latest Daily Wire backstage, Come All Ye Faithful, we give the gift that keeps on giving, namely talking about the hilarious Democrats who think they will be president. You will hear from me, Ben Shapiro, Andrew Claven, the God King Jeremy Boring, and since you've been so good this year, you will also hear from our special guest, Adam Carolla, to talk about his new film No Safe Spaces. Take a listen. How about a fake laugh?
Starting point is 00:00:34 It's hard even to gin up a fake. And I'll tell you why. It's because the real world is so damn funny. It's not fake. Yeah, I can't stop laughing at reality. And then when it's time to the same way, I have to say, I'm so glad that you actually got this for like the week when this person's going to be relevant.
Starting point is 00:00:53 I don't know what you're talking about. It's Christmas time. Welcome to the Daily Wire backstage. The Kamali. I can't even say it. The Kamalaey faithful. I really blew that joke. And it's such a good joke.
Starting point is 00:01:03 It's such a great thing. But what's happening is our teleprompter doesn't work. Oh, no. And so then... As per usual arrangement. Yeah, so then you're just off your... It was working two minutes ago. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Well, two minutes ago, we weren't shooting a show. Oh, that's right. I forgot. That's right. It is I, Jeremy Boring, your trusty neighborhood Daily Wire God King with the lowercase G and the lowercase K. And I am joined, as always, by Benjamin Shapiro, Michael Knowles, Andrew Claven, and Elisha Kraus.
Starting point is 00:01:30 I didn't call her lovely. I just wanted to... She so is, though. I know. But it's disparaging. It looks lovely tonight. Oh, I'm sorry. The lovely Elisha Krauss.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Alicia, how you doing? I'm pretty good, and my teleprompter is working, so this is the opportunity that I have to take over the show. No, I'm kidding. I'm just here to remind all of our subscribers out there that are watching at home or, I don't know, on the metro, if you're stuck on the D.C. or New York Metro, or somewhere in an airport headed home or to work, whatever. If you want to ask the guys' questions, you have to be a DailyWire subscriber.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Go over to DailyWire.com. Be sure to find the show's page up at the top. and click on backstage and then type your questions into the chat box. Questions are already pouring in that sits next to the video. The chat box is right next to the video so you can be watching and chatting at the same time. And I don't know if he's teased it yet or not. Can I tease the big guest tonight? Am I allowed?
Starting point is 00:02:20 I think she already did. I was saving it for when I remembered later on. Because I don't have a teleprompter to actually hear me about these things. So I think it'd be best if you did it. All right. Well, Jeremy was going to tell all y'all that the... The big guest tonight is none other than Adam Carolla. And he'll be coming up shortly.
Starting point is 00:02:41 And he'll be taking your questions, but only if you're a subscriber. So to get those questions in for Adam and all the guys, because let's be honest, you're over asking the God King and all the guys over there, all the questions, right? If you want to get into question in for Adam Carolla, be sure to go over and ask. And we'll see if it happens on the air. Thank you, E. Alicia Krause. We have so much to talk about today before Adam gets here, because once he's here,
Starting point is 00:03:04 I feel like we're going to be talking about culture, which will be fun. But betwixt now and then, so much has happened since last we were together. So much has happened since I got to work. We have... First of all, I barely recognize you. I thought you were a jettled gum. Mr. Ludlam over there? Mr. Lumlim? Lummingum? I did get attacked by a... I didn't. I shouldn't say I got attacked. We got attacked by a journalist, and then I attacked him right back. Good improper, I thought.
Starting point is 00:03:33 But the big stories, of course, Kamala is out of the race, so it's only a matter of time before we're all arrested. That bus is available now. That bus is available. DOC is taken over. Put bars on the bus. I think I actually have to admit, I hate to do this. I only do this once every 10 years. I got Kamala Harris completely wrong.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Everyone did. Everyone did. I thought on paper, she was such a good candidate. And then she opened her mouth and cackled and talked about smoking blunts with Snoop Dog. And she completely collapsed. I'm going to miss that laugh, aren't you? I mean, it was so charming. It would always be in my dreams.
Starting point is 00:04:05 That's exactly. I mean... Listen, before you get too reminiscent about the heady days of yesterday when you could hear that cackling laugh, Hillary might get back in the race. I mean, people were asking what she was going to do next, and it's like, well, I thought Joaquin Phoenix was only signed for one film. And also, we have, like, the black version of every single superhero movie now.
Starting point is 00:04:26 And female, right? I mean, we have black female bond, right, who's coming, apparently. So why not black female joke? I think if they want a black female thrown, they should get Justin Trudeau. It's too-faced. It's real two-face. I have to say, yes, we all got Kamala wrong.
Starting point is 00:04:42 I enjoyed having her in the race. The reason is because her campaign manager on Twitter at least once a week would say, and he was not joking, would say who they were going to arrest. That's right, and what they were going to ban? And what they were going to ban? Like, full on, you know, when Kamala Harris is, in the White House, people who drink whiskey and smoke cigars will be outlawed.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Wait a second. You know what I love to. On her birthday, they posted the exact same tweet that Hillary Clinton posted, a black and white photo, which when Kamala was a kid, by the way, they had colored photos. So they artificially made it black and white. Happy birthday to this future president. This was after Kamala Harris hired all of Hillary's ex-staff. This is as she crotted out of the campaign.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Oh for two. Not a great idea. Because Democrats believe, Kamala Harris believed, just as they believe with Stacey Abrams, they believe that they win every race that they lose. And so in most business, that's right, Beto, in most businesses, like the person who lost last time, their entire team is anathom. You don't want anything to do with that. You guys were the last in the league last year. Yeah, your coaches aren't going to work again. No one's picking your players up on.
Starting point is 00:05:58 He was picking your players. Those Barre Stearns guys didn't get hired by Goldman, right? You're out. Hollywood is just like this. Hollywood is exactly like that. Well, Elizabeth Banks just got picked up for another major film. I said someone the other day. And for the same reason, because it's all imagery.
Starting point is 00:06:11 It's all like, yeah, that looks like a presidential candidate in my imagination. That looks like a movie star in my imagination. That's a movie that should have worked in my imagination. And the fact that it didn't just has no resonance whatsoever. Yeah. The best thing about that Kamala Harris candidacy fail has been the reaction of the media and the other Democrats to her leaving. Because it's been, because everybody is. is suddenly weeping openly about this.
Starting point is 00:06:31 She had zero percent support. Like, none. No, her immediate family didn't support her. Like, the big surprise of her dropping out was that her husband took a picture with her. He's like, oh, one person likes her. That's great. That's really exciting.
Starting point is 00:06:41 No one liked her. Willie Brown was supportive. Oh, that's a low. Wow. Very low. Terrible. Terrible. But in any case, the best person on all of this
Starting point is 00:06:50 has been Corey Booker. Because Corey Booker has been putting out an email. Somebody signed me up. It's pretty great. See, here's the thing. When people know you online, then they start signing you up for like all of the things they think you will hate, right?
Starting point is 00:07:00 So my typical account, because it's public, we'll receive emails from Planned Parenthood and the campaigns for Warren and Booker. And the ones from Warren and Booker actually really amusing. So the ones from Booker, every six hours since she has dropped out, I'm not kidding, every six hours, there's been an email from Cory Booker in my inbox. It says,
Starting point is 00:07:16 Dear Ben, the stage is completely white now. We need to get me on that stage to prove that we are a diverse party. And I think to myself, this is amazing, because now they're calling themselves racist. It's amazing. Like every editorial Charles Blow did one in the New York Times today. It was on MSN, NBC did a full editorial on this whole thing, that it's so hard for a black woman.
Starting point is 00:07:36 I'm like, okay, first of all, if Michelle Obama jumped in tomorrow should win the race by 40 points, both the general and the primaries. Also, I love the idea that Americans are not willing to vote for a black president. It's like Barack Obama just never existed. Trump raised him from existence like Thanos. It's like he's just gone. It's always been implied in their philosophy. They yell at us because we're the enemy, but it's always implied in their philosophy that all of America is racist. So really, if you're standing next to them, they're only yelling at us now, the minute they're done with us, they'll turn to you and come after you.
Starting point is 00:08:04 But there's also a huge oversight here, which is, isn't Elizabeth Warren still in the race? You know, you make it great point. I was going to mention Tulsi Gabbard and Andrew Yang, but Elizabeth Warren is still in the race. It's actually true. They actually, like, they factually got it wrong, except they've been trying to ignore those two candidates as best they can and kick them off the stage. But Elizabeth Warren only became white. In the Democrat, in the Democrat narrative, she only became white when Kamala Harris got out of the race. So, Warren, now I get to tell you about Warren's emails. So she's been sending me emails to. And it's so nice. So she sends me emails. And the emails say things like, Dear Ben, do you remember when Kirsten Gillibrand and Kamala Harris were forced from the race after winning a combined 11.5 million votes in their Senate races? Only so billionaires like Michael Bloomberg and Tom Steyer could be in? And I thought to myself, has anyone mentioned Kristen Gillibrand for months? Was she a human being?
Starting point is 00:08:56 Also, isn't Amy Klobuchar on the stage? And isn't Tulsa Gabbard's still in? And are you there? And Tom Steyer, like, they keep doing, it's really funny because now they're, now they're doing this thing. There are all these articles about Tom Steyer. There are all these articles about Tom Steyer is still in the race. Why hasn't he been forced from the race? Because no one forced Tomola Harris from the race.
Starting point is 00:09:14 She dropped out. It's voluntary. She could have stuck around, but she realized she would have gotten her ass kicked in California. That's what it was really she got out. She was afraid that she was going to tank in the early states. She'd have to stick around until California. She'd finish fourth in California. California. And it would have been humiliating. If she drops out now, then maybe she's got a cabinet position.
Starting point is 00:09:29 She hasn't got Hillary Clinton's taste for humiliation. Just utter shamelessness. Did you see Hillary on Howard Stern? She could actually get back in the race. I'm straight. I want to talk about Hillary. I want to talk about Hillary on Howard Stern. In particular, I want to talk about my Christmas wish that Hillary actually gets in the, I'm just hoping against hope, you guys. I know she keeps saying people are urging her to get in the race. It's all me. Trump is sending her pictures of his hand. If there is a Hillary for president website out there, please go and give. You would make four pundits so, so happy. In the meantime, though, I want to tell you guys about a brand new sponsor that we have here on the show called The Last Coat.
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Starting point is 00:12:25 We were afraid of her when she got in the race. We thought this is a dangerous candidate. And the thing is, the people are not like all wise that they will delve into every policy decision, but they are smarter than imagery. And the imagery helps you first out of the gate. But we have to remember. They know what they don't like.
Starting point is 00:12:43 But the press, yes, they know what they don't like. And they can, just like everybody, you can look at a person and think like, something shifty about, you know, like, NOLS. You can just see like, yeah. And I think that people can see these things, and we don't trust them to see them. And even Democrats can see them.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Also, the media turned on her early. They turned on her in support. But they also built her up. Yeah, but they built her up. And then she got up there and they went, oh my God, this woman will lock us up. Maybe we have gone to. She would have done.
Starting point is 00:13:10 She said that it was Tulsi who took her out. And that's not true. If you look at the polls, she took herself out, right? She leapt up to the top of the polls. And then immediately she started to recede because she's the Hindenberg. And people saw that she was flip-flopping
Starting point is 00:13:20 like a fish on Medicare for all. And even her initial attack on Joe Biden about forced busing was completely dishonest because no one supports forced busing, especially not. 1970s. It was like another era. Even in the 1970s, nobody supported forced buss. It was deeply unpopular even in the 1970s, because who the hell wants to put your kid on a bus and bust them an hour to a school where they know nobody?
Starting point is 00:13:38 It created white flight. The entire white flight problem, at least a huge percentage of it, was created by attempts to force bus. So, you know, it was an idiotic attempt. She was relegated in her final days. I love talking about the final days of Kamala Harris's case. She was relegated in her final days to being on stage, shiting Elizabeth Warren for not calling on Twitter to ban Donald Trump. And I was like, this is how low you've sunk.
Starting point is 00:13:59 But it was kind of amazing because the fact is I, until she dropped out, I thought there might be a shot that she would be a second look candidate. It would be like second look at Kamala Harris. The reason being, because this feels a lot like 2012 for the Republicans, where it was like, everybody early on, they were like, oh, Mitt Romney, that guy's probably pretty good. And they looked at him and they went, uh, yeah. And then they looked at it like, maybe Newt Gingrich. Well, maybe Rick San-W.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Michelle Bachman, Herman King. and they literally went through like a thousand people. And then finally it came back around like, I guess Romney's still here. Okay, fine. Well, that's Joe Biden, circa 2020, right? I mean, like, all along, Biden has been the guy where he was expected to win,
Starting point is 00:14:35 and he's never dropped below 25% in the national polling, and he's still winning by large numbers in South Carolina and throughout the South. When you wonder why they're trying to impeach Donald Trump, you only have to look at Joe Biden. Of course. This is their front. Although today was his best day. Yeah, it was a good day.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Okay, that was great. Okay, come on. Let's be real. The time's eyes explode, you know. But he did call that person fat. No, no, no, no. He called him fat. And that was his name, by the way.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Yeah, yeah. Johnny fact. I was totally amused for people who missed it today. Joe Biden was doing a rally. It wasn't where I was like a Q&A in Iowa. And some portly fellow who was an Elizabeth Warren supporter apparently gets up and starts asking about Hunter Biden. And Joe gets visibly perturbed and gets very angry and says because the guy says that
Starting point is 00:15:19 he caught on the TV. Right. He says, you're a damn liar. And the guy says, well, I saw it on the TV. This is why I'm not sedentary. You know, I'll get out there and I'll exercise and he's like, well, what? Like, this is a non-sac quarter, okay? And he's like, well, I'll do a push-up contest with you.
Starting point is 00:15:31 I'll do an IQ contest with you. He calls him, and then he literally says to him, look, fat. And I thought to myself, he could be president. Because everybody online on Twitter, they're like, this is a bad moment for Joe Biden. I was like, Donald Trump is the president of the United States. If Joe Biden had said to the guy, I'm going to come over there and grab you by the he'd be president tomorrow. You forget everybody who imitates Donald Trump dies.
Starting point is 00:15:54 But that's not imitation. But Joe Biden is Joe Biden. You know what I have? It's not, it's not illegitimate. Yeah, I don't think it was him. You know, I had to think when I saw that 77-year-old Joe Biden up there calling that guy fat, challenging. I just thought, what the hell did this guy do to corn pop? Back in front-prime with the chain.
Starting point is 00:16:10 I can't even imagine what this guy did. No, I don't know. I think Joe Biden, though, the fact that the guy is a front-runner really tells us something about the Democratic. Well, I agree. But here's my question. Dick Morris today. wrote a piece about, I said we'd talk about Hillary getting in, here it is. Dick Morris writes a piece today.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Author of Hillary versus Condi. Yes, exactly. 2004. I was going to say, I was going to say, Dick Morris is, I actually like Dick Morris, is a nice guy, but he has been wrong about every single thing. All of them. But sometimes he's wrong about things, and for two or three minutes, I think, I wonder if Dick Morris is right.
Starting point is 00:16:42 But then today, in his article about Hillary getting into the race, and he says, you know, her every thought is fixed upon it. He says, but she's going to wait until Biden gets out. he's clearly the next person to drop. I thought, on what planet is Joe Biden going to drop? Yeah. Never. He's dead already, boy.
Starting point is 00:16:58 He can't even know. That's not a possibility. Listen, fat. His whole philosophy is that he's going to win the later states, which is always a bad philosophy. Well, no, his philosophy is that Buttigieg or Sanders, they'll split some of the early states. It's not that way.
Starting point is 00:17:14 South Carolina is third up, plus Nevada. He's leading in both. Right. And then you get a Super Tuesday, and all he has to do is clear as a sense. And by the way, we're joking here. Something like 75 to 85. A lot of large percentage of the Democrat primary voters are happy with their lineup. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:31 And by the way, this is the thing that people are ignoring about the whole Kamala Harris dropout. And this is what's so amusing. People are like, oh, this just shows the systemic racism, American society that's even bled down to the Democratic Party. Kamala Harris had 0% black support. Zero. Like, no one cared about her. Corey Booker has 0% black support. You know who has all the black support, Joe Biden?
Starting point is 00:17:49 which by the way speaks pretty well, I would say, honestly, of black voters in the Democratic Party who aren't at least just saying, oh, look, a black guy, I'm going to vote for him. Right. Right, which was the way, they tried that once. It didn't work out. Well, that's, but that's how the media portrays black voters is, okay, here's a black guy. Black people will vote for that black person. That's what is how the media thinks. Right. Right. We have to be careful. The voters are actually smarter than that. Right. Sorry, I didn't think. I do, I do think you're absolutely right. I think that the media are thinking in this very shallow sort of racial way. But what we're all underestimating is the brilliance of Joe Biden's strategy here.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Because it was the same strategy as Rudy Giuliani. And, you know, Giuliani got reelected. Oh, he's three times. He's president now. But to Ben's point, I don't think it's fair to say that that's quite what Biden is doing. It's one thing, like Giuliani legitimately said he wasn't going to even compete until Florida. So he didn't just say, I'm not going to win Iowa. You're right.
Starting point is 00:18:42 And it's also important to note that there's a vast difference between the late state strategies of a party that is largely homogenous in racial terms, meaning the Republican Party of Florida looks a lot like the Republican Party of New Hampshire or Iowa, or at least a lot more, right? The Democratic Party of South Carolina looks nothing like the Democratic Party of Iowa. But it's also the person who wins Iowa rarely wins the precedence. Well, and that's, this is the reason, because the Democratic Party in South Carolina, the voting base in South Carolina in the Democratic primary is two-thirds black. The voting base in Iowa in the Democratic primary is 100%, 197% white, including Elizabeth Warren. There was a time when you thought Biden was an actual threat to Trump. Do you
Starting point is 00:19:19 actually think that he could be Trump. Yes. And the reason, the reason still is because Donald Trump makes lots of mistakes. I've always said that the, I've always said that the election is going to rest on who is this a referendum upon? Is this a referendum on Trump or is it a referendum on the Democrat? If it were Warren, Buttigieg, Sanders, then Kamal Harris, then the radicalism of the Democrat would be enough to drive a lot of moderate voters to go, I don't like this Trump guy very much. He seems like kind of a jerk, but the economy's good. He's not screwing up my life. I guess I have to pull the lever for that guy. But Joe Biden has 100% in recognition.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Everybody thinks what they think about him. He's basically a dead guy. And a dead person is not a bad person to run against Trump because it's not a referendum on the dead guy. You know the dead guy's dead. And I don't feel like I have a question. Do you feel, like you as a conservative, do you feel anywhere near as threatened by Joe Biden as president as you do by Elizabeth Warren or people's judge or any of the other Democrats? You have to ask, when was the last time? Because to your point, he's already a dead guy.
Starting point is 00:20:16 when was the last time the more boring candidate won? Yeah, that's always the more charismatic. I can't think of it. But we talk about how Trump is unique in many ways. One of the ways in which he's unique is that what's interesting about him is alienating to a particular demographic. And that particular demographic, suburban, married suburban women, I think we'll look back with a certain fondness on the Obama era. Because during the Obama era, we may have been having policy losses and we may have been having economic losses. We don't remember those because they weren't that painful, but we do remember
Starting point is 00:20:51 that things just weren't crazy. And Joe Biden just kind of represents this return to a time when that nice young man was president and everybody was kind of friendly and everybody kind of got along. And bad people sat down. But that's, I'm not saying Biden must win. No, this is right. But this is why Biden is most likely to win of anybody that the Democrats thought about running. Always the strongest Democratic pitch was the 1920 Warren G. Harding returned to normalcy campaign. That was always the strongest. Democratic pitch because the only thing they've been successful in doing is keeping the feeling, this roiling feeling of upset and chaos going. It's the only thing the Democrats have been good
Starting point is 00:21:24 at doing for the last several years. I mean, they've not been able to stop Trump's agenda. He's been able to get large swaths of it through, but they have been able to make people feel deeply uncomfortable with each other. Well, because they have the entire press. No, again, I agree with all of that, right? I'm not saying that's Trump's fault. I think that the Democrats, I mean, I think it's partially Trump's fault. Well, of course. In the sense that Trump is a eruption. Trump is a volcano, right? And they cover the volcano. But they also exact. exacerbate the effect of the volcano. I will say, I know this is the most unpopular opinion I have,
Starting point is 00:21:51 but I will say that Trump has been toning it down. If you watch what he's doing, he is catching on. He is, you know, you think that Trump never changes, but he always changes. He's always playing the game. Yeah, this is your most unpopular opinion. Yeah, it's my most unpopular opinion. It's wrong.
Starting point is 00:22:04 But it's true. No, it's not. No, he's just overseas, Drew. He's just not here. At NATO, he's like walking around slapping people, like Laurel and Hardy. Are you going to, are you going to hit on Trump for slapping Europeans? Come on. But did you see Biden's ad? Like Biden ran that ad, right? I was like, the Europeans don't respect Donald Trump. And I thought, there's a, there's a, I was like, that's going to play in Michigan. Like the Michigan auto workers is like, McCrone doesn't love him. That European incident actually showed Drew's point, though, which the point is he's in the environment where, where Donald Trump of even a year and a half ago would have gone on a three-hour tirade about little pencil neck Justin Trudeau, that dirtbag idiot, you know. And instead,
Starting point is 00:22:46 No, he got one line in. He said he's two-faced. But look, I'm representing the United States. Maybe he doesn't like that very much. And then he insulted McCrone. Listen, I have no problem insulting any of this year. I think they're schmucked. But he's not doing what he was doing before.
Starting point is 00:22:59 At least not now. You're a crazy person. He tweeted out a picture of himself as Rocky Valvola. Last week, what are you talking about? That was genius. Man, genius? Hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Was it like Lincoln writing the Gettysburg address to me? Or was it like the second? It was like the farewell address from George Washington? Okay. Can we put it on like a list here? I want some sort of... All right, all right. I want some sort of context for genius.
Starting point is 00:23:20 When we say... Like the theory of relativity or like the string theory, genius. Like, where are we going here with this? When we say that the president has made changes recently, you can't kick it back to a week ago. That's how Trump lives. We live in Trump's America. No, no, no. I want to hear from some of our DailyWired doc on this conversation.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Elisha. All right. I mean, man, how many Pina coladas has Ben had? because he sounds real excited tonight. I'm ready to get the hell out of here, Alicia. All right. So this question comes from a great Daily Wire subscriber.
Starting point is 00:23:54 He wants to know, quote, it seems independence and minority voters have been turning in Trump's favor, according to some recent polls over the last couple of months. But other than the backlash to the impeachment hearing and what Democrats are doing there, is there something else that you can see
Starting point is 00:24:07 that is causing that shift? Yes, he's giving them jobs. He's doing a good job for minority people. He is, you know? Like all the talk, I mean, that last poll that said that he had 33 to 34% among blacks, I think that poll is right. And I think that I'm surprised.
Starting point is 00:24:22 It's not just a poll. If you're right, then Republicans will never lose again. I mean, all Republicans have to do is win about 12% of the black vote and they never lose an old. I mean, listen, there's something about dinner on the table that has a very, very solid effect on people. You can sit there say, this guy, you can watch on TV on CNN. They bring on college professors. They say, yes, but the things he says, people are sitting there home going, you know, I like having this dinner on the table.
Starting point is 00:24:46 I like going to work in the morning having my wife and kids respect me. You know, this is a good thing. And it's not just one poll. It's not just the Emerson poll. There was the NPR Merritt poll. There was obviously Rasmussen always. Plus, I've been saying this for two years. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:59 But there's, but I mean, to be fair, at least, well, we're going to have to see how the polls bear out because there is some pretty mixed polling data, right? Gallup suggests that he's basically exactly where he always was. Yeah. But I hope that you guys are right. Yeah. Elisha. Doing better than Buttigieg, right? All right.
Starting point is 00:25:14 With Kamala dropping out of the race this week, who do you think will be the next 20-20 Democratic candidate to be next out? Good question. I think Warren, Sanders, Buttigieg, and Biden certainly go all the way to Iowa. What's the incentive for people to get out at this point? I guess that's my question. I think Klobuchar isn't the next one to get out, probably. But do you think anyone gets out before Iowa? Maybe Klobuchar, if she doesn't start to pick up any ground.
Starting point is 00:25:41 She is making some modest headway, isn't it? New Hampshire. She's starting to pull a little bit. There's no world where Tulsi gets out. There's no world where Yang gets out. Right. The one that I hope doesn't get out. He should be. Maybe Booker. Though, I hope he doesn't for entertainment value is Fulian Castro, my favorite. The great defender of abortion rights for men.
Starting point is 00:26:00 I think he'll stick in it. If I don't have my abortion rights. If I don't have my abortion rights. I mean, I mean, Booker has been, Booker might do it just so he can whine and bitch about how he's not in the race. I mean, he's a very whiny human being. He just, he's a very whining human being. He's just, he's a, he's a lot.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Mr. Potato Head, he goes around, he takes out the angry eyes. I was talking, I was talking not that long ago. A while back, I mean, a couple of months ago to a Booker guy, a guy who was working for Booker. And I said, you know he's never going to be president. And his face fell. And I thought, I'm delivering news. This is bad, you know. You should know that.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Political radiologist, Andrew Clayman. I'm a fantastic. Sorry. Yeah, exactly. Alicia. All right. So follow up to that. is of the three people that were actually supporting Kamawa,
Starting point is 00:26:47 you know, other than her mom and dad, which candidate do you see all of her supporters going to and why? How would we know? How would we know when they went? Really? Okay. That temple is too small to charge, not. There's no way to tell. I mean, who will her husband support?
Starting point is 00:27:06 We'll have to ask him. We're not going to see any change in the poll. No. The polls are in. Booker is desperately hoping that there will be a, oh my God, there's only one black guy left in the race. What do we do? Maybe we'll go to that black guy.
Starting point is 00:27:15 And everybody's like, Corey Booker, Corey McBooker. Yeah, man. No way. Just to kick Kamala while she's down, it is worth pointing out here that people are saying she had 3.5% when she got out. That's not true. That was outdated. The most recent poll as she got out put her at 2%.
Starting point is 00:27:33 She was down two points. Put Mike Bloomberg at 6%. That was a Harris poll. Mike Bloomberg had three times the support of Kamala Harris. And no one is voting for him. This is actually a hopeful thing that I'm, kind of feeling, I know, it's weird, for the Democratic Party, is that the candidates who are doing well are the ones who are the least crazy. Yes. Okay, that doesn't mean they're not crazy. They're
Starting point is 00:27:52 crazy. But they're the least crazy. Burnies. Which is, which is, no, but if you look at the people who are gaining momentum, it's Buttigieg, right, who's portraying himself is not crazy. He's actually a very nasty human being, which you've seen as soon as the mask slips. And a complete cynic. And a real cynic and, you know, but the old Pete Buttigieg, the one who sort of is emerged, the one who, you know, is out there with Salvation Army and says he'll eat at Chick-fil-A. and pretends that he's a moderate. Like, that guy is a lot less bad for the country than Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Biden and also Bloomberg, right? Bloomberg, we all look at each other and we're like, who the hell supports Michael Bloomberg? His first poll from Hill Harris, he's at 6%. And he's leapfrogging everybody. I don't like the guy. He did a good job in New York. He's maintaining Giuliani.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Maintaining Giuliani success. The crime rates continued to drop. Economic growth was maintained under Bloomberg. Mount Maddoo was outlawed. But this is an important point. Chuck Todd was on TV, on MSNBC, which is hard to tell the difference between NBC and MSNBC.
Starting point is 00:28:46 He was on saying, you know, but they really, Democrats should really be doing, they should be telling the candidates to stop campaigning so people can pay attention to this riveting impeachment thing. And I thought like, these guys are living in a world that simply doesn't exist.
Starting point is 00:29:01 And the thing is, the voters aren't. The voters live in a world that doesn't do. The voters do not care two wits about this impeachment nonsense. Who does? Not two wits, because this is all baked in. Every single iota of it is baked in. Is a sham?
Starting point is 00:29:12 So impeachment is next up on the docket because I have a theory and also I have a brainstorm session that I think I want to participate in and I think that the audience will find it amusing. But first, as Ben likes to say, if you want to send a Christmas card to the Daily Wire, if you want to tell us we're doing a good job, wish us a happy new year, tell us to go pound sand, you're going to need a stamp. Mmm. That's right. And you're not going to want to, you're not going to drag down to the local post office and buy a book of stamps. And they don't sell them at my ATM anymore.
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Starting point is 00:30:53 to the post office again. I always talk about how the government's bad at everything, but somehow the government came up with the idea of letting you get stamps on the internet. Yeah, that was good. That was good. Stamps.com, man. The post office does a good job. And to have it in your computer. It's perfect, yeah. So I want to talk about impeachment. All right. Nancy Pelosi said today that they will move forward with impeachment. Unpredictable. Only Andrew Claven thought that they wouldn't. No, no, I didn't think they wouldn't. I thought there was a possibility. I still think there's a possibility. They won't actually get away with it. Yeah. You really? You're crazy. Small. You know. But from the man who said to Donald Trump's Rocky Balboa picture, genius. Comes his take on impeachment. That was a real photo, by the way. Yeah. That was not photo.
Starting point is 00:31:32 The thing I want to talk about is what should the Republican strategy be? when this goes to trial in the Senate. Because there's, there's, what I've been reading as far as what McConnell and what the Trump administration are thinking, I think they are missing it by a mile. I'm horrified that they're going to, that they're going to run this the way that Trump and McConnell want to and blow the greatest political opportunity of a lifetime. So they're talking about we need to wrap, Trump wants to wrap it up in two weeks. Oh, that's a mistake.
Starting point is 00:32:02 That's a tough. Oh, no. No, no. No. I'm for cocaine Mitch's House of Horrors. Yeah. They should drag this thing on until election day. Oh, my God, that's so true.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Oh, my. I just don't know. Is there anybody in the Senate trolly and delightful enough to understand what this opportunity? You know, speaking of Sly Stallone here, I think that Lindsay Grahambo does have a shot. Lindsay Graham 2.0. He's been pretty trolly ever since. And cocaine Mitch is a genius. I mean, this is a, you got.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Cocaine's good. The guy is good at a job. You get what he's great. No, this is really what I think. I think it's going to be Cocaine Mitch's House of Horrors. They're going to go in there. They're going to call every witness. You know, they're going to subpoena Joe Biden.
Starting point is 00:32:45 They're going to subpoena. And remember, you know, John Roberts, who is, you know, you don't have to like him, but he is sort of, he's the worst. He's going to preside over this in a fair way. You know, nobody's going to be able to say he's cheating. So he's going to. But what we're hearing from the administration is that they don't want to do this. They want to get through the state as quick as possible. I cannot believe they would do that.
Starting point is 00:33:06 I can't believe that. I want them to subpoena Schiff. I want them to subpoena Schiff's phone records. I want them then to publicly release Schiff's phone records. Oh, of course. Of course. That's the whole point. And besides, you know, this means that like Elizabeth Warren is going to have to be in the Senate. You know, I mean, this is an amazing opportunity for them. If they blow this, Republicans are stupid. And the timing here is pretty interesting because when they announced the formal official impeachment inquiry, it looked like Joe Biden was collapsing, right? It looked like that guy was not going to get the nomination. Now things look a little bit different. Joe Biden is at the center of this whole impeachment probe. They're going to try to get him to testify.
Starting point is 00:33:41 He's going to refuse to testify. That's going to be a wonderful week of stories. They're going to drag that derelict hunter Biden. That's going to be a great week of stories. The Democrats have so miscalculated. Although it could. I think maybe the calculation for McConnell is that if you think that Trump's best shot is basically just look at the Democrats, right?
Starting point is 00:33:59 Don't look at Trump, look at the Democrats. Then getting this thing over with and just saying, okay, look at the Democratic candidates. They're all awful. that might be the strategy here. Just get past this, put it back on a little bit more and put it back on Buttigieg. We're not going to do the impeachment stuff because then the focus is on Trump and then it's all on Ukraine and all this kind of stuff. Also, you do run a risk with Joe Biden of having the sort of high dudgeon moment played up by the media where he gets up there and he says, you know, I have one son who died of brain cancer and I have another son who's gone out there and tried to make something of himself. Yes, he's had difficulties, but for you to attack my son in order to come after me in 2020. Right. I mean, like that there could be, listen, we'll all know that.
Starting point is 00:34:35 a lot of that's BS, but Biden can play that game. It's a high-risk, high-reward strategy is what you're saying. But then McConnell is kind of a low-risk. But then Biden bites John Robert's finger in the whole. I mean, Joe Biden is legit corrupt. I mean, this thing with Hunter Biden was legit corruption. You know, I'm not going to go quite that far because what I actually think with Joe Biden is that he is a dad of a crap son.
Starting point is 00:34:59 And I think there are a lot of parents who look the other way on their crap kids. And I think that that's really what this is. It doesn't feel like I don't, I don't necessarily. You bring your crap kid on Air Force 2 and fly them over to China? A lot of people do, yes. A lot of people do. People do a lot. People prop up their kids.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Well, they do, but it is corrupt. When you're the vice president, you can't do that. And when you have a guy, you know, this was a, Trump is right about this. This was a genuinely corrupt thing to do to have this guy, you know, basically taking a sinecure for 50 grand a month. 60 grand a month. The question isn't whether Hunter Biden's corrupt. I mean, I think we all agree that Hunter Biden's a piece of
Starting point is 00:35:34 crap. I mean, Joe Biden just found out he has a grand kid. He didn't know he had until Hunter Biden. Like Hunter Biden, it's pretty obvious. By a stripper, right? In Arkansas or something. Well, he was dating his late brothers, you know, and he's still married to his wife. As one of the only people who didn't vote for the president on the point of two, you guys don't have any room to make these arguments. You have any stripper argument you have for, you know, look, game over guys. A Rice married Lapsed Presbyterian versus Hunter Biden. I don't know. I still go for.
Starting point is 00:36:01 But this is the thing about Trump. This is the thing that gets me that the, the language they use about Trump is so high-pitched. But the things they get him on, like he said something untoward to the president of Ukraine, and you go like, really? I mean, this is perfectly obvious when you watched the law professor's testimony yesterday, where you had Jonathan Turley,
Starting point is 00:36:20 who's basically, he's not a Republican. And he doesn't like Trump. And he's saying what is obviously true, which is you guys do not have these statutory requirements for bribery, for obstruction of justice. Like, there's no crime here. And it's very obvious there's no actual crime here. here, it's obvious that, like, Democrats over each tier, Democrats had a strategy that actually
Starting point is 00:36:37 could have played for them. They could have just done this whole thing, and then they could have brought forward a censure motion. And it would have been very difficult for Republicans, because on the one hand, you don't want to look like you're tutting Trump's bad behavior. On the other hand, if you cross Trump, he's going to tweet about you, and he's going to be mean to you. And so that would have been a smart strategy. They would have gotten a bipartisan support. That's right. They would have gotten five or ten Republicans to peel off and vote in favor of censure. And then in the Senate, you would have gotten Romney to vote for censure and a few others to vote for censure.
Starting point is 00:37:03 That's right. But by going for impeachment, because the overreach is so dramatic, everybody now has an excuse to go, this is not impeachable. This is not even close to impeachable. And watching them trot out a person who was too liberal for Barack Obama's Supreme Court pick to make jokes about Baron Trump in order to go after. This guy, Noah Feldman, was that his name? Yeah, from Harvard. Yeah. I read it on the air today. There's no way around it. It's a piece of sophistry saying that Sharia law is essentially better. and Western jurisprudence. That's who they bring in to tell us that, you know. We also were to appeased from the New York Times Magazine in 2017 talking about all the different ways to impeach Trump in 2017. Yes, that's right.
Starting point is 00:37:42 That's right. So, I mean, it's perfectly obvious what they were doing here. And so that's why when Nancy Pelosi got up there, her dentures are moving and started talking about how President Trump, we were seriously considering whether or not to do this. But then these law professors testified, and my mind was blown. And then James Rosen says to her,
Starting point is 00:38:00 so this isn't about you hating Trump. And she goes, as a Catholic, I'm so insulted. Yeah, you and Mother Teresa. You know who she reminded me of in that moment, you guys? You know who she reminded me up? Jesus. Can I ask? Some idiot, by the way, that is a reference.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Some idiot on Twitter. Yeah, Christopher Hill said that he. So novelist-wise, I'm looking at Nancy Pelosi, and to me, she looks like a person in a vice. I saw that press conference, and I thought that looks like a woman who has been pushed off a building and is falling. And it's like, how's it going? okay so far you know she looks like she's in a panic i mean she's pushed into something this is the reason she couldn't even string together a complete sentence she couldn't ask that question yeah i mean she
Starting point is 00:38:42 like people clipped it so you only saw the end when she's very high dutching right i was like catholic i'm very insulted by the way i one of my pet peeves and i'm not a christian but as a jew when people do this it drives me up a wall and you're the catholic in the room as a catholic i have to imagine it's sort of annoying when a person who's in favor of abortion on demand men becoming women and governmentally sponsored same-sex marriage is going, as a Catholic, I'm offended that you use the word hate with regard to me and President Trump. And then she's like, I'm praying for Trump. Yeah, I imagine so. I imagine that every night Nancy Pelosi gets down on her knees in her room and puts her hands together and praise for the health and happiness and the repentance of Donald Trump.
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Starting point is 00:41:17 slay, queen. And I thought, you know, last time there was a Catholic who was being attacked and he was being attacked for no good reason at all. And he got angry. They were like, unfit. His name was Justice Kavanaugh. He was currently sitting on the Supreme Court. He was slandered with allegations that he raped somebody on the basis of no evidence. And he got mad about it because somebody suggested that he was a rapist. And he got angry and they're like, he got mad. He shouldn't be on the Supreme Court. Somebody said to her, do you hate Trump? And she's like, I'm so offended as a Catholic that you would say I hate anyone. I love everyone, including the little children, at least the ones who are born. All the other ones
Starting point is 00:41:50 can die. But you know who Brat Kavanaugh doesn't remind me of? That's fair point. I think that, Drew, you brought up the fact that she looks like she's on the ropes. I think you're right. I think that she knows that her legacy now is going to be that she presided over the impeachment of someone for nothing. Right. And that not only is it going to end in nothing, it's going to end very likely in electoral failure for them. And not only that, they're so far over their skis. I'm not sure that Adam Schiff hasn't broken the law pursuing this thing. Well, that's what Jonathan Turley's point was really well taken, that first of all, They're setting a standard that Republicans, as we know, and Republicans will do this, they'll go after the next president who's a Democrat on the same grounds. And no one will be able to say them nay. And the fact that the press will rush to attack them is not going to wash. Turley was really good. He sounded like an American. It was like this lost voice of America.
Starting point is 00:42:46 A guy saying, I don't like Trump, but that's not the point. The point is the Constitution. He was being a lawyer. Right. I mean, everybody else up there was being an activist. And I understand that, ooh, they have magic degrees from Harvard. Well, guess what? I know. Look, if we were impressed with that.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Like, come on. And the fact is that what he was saying, that there is no statutory crime that's been committed, and that the dead giveaway, the Democrats have nothing, really the dead giveaway, is that in their little impeachment document that Schiff put together at a moment's notice, there was a charge for obstruction of justice. Now, to understand how idiotic this is, you really have to understand how subpoenas were. So the press are under the wild misimpression that if I am a member of Congress and I subpoenaed you and you say no, you have now violated the law and obstructed justice.
Starting point is 00:43:24 This is a lie. There's a whole third branch of government. It's called the judiciary. And if I subpoena you and you say no, and then I go to the judiciary and I say, no, you need to show up or you go to the judiciary and you say, no, I don't want to show up. And then the judiciary says, no, you have to show up. And then you say, no, I'm not coming. That's right. That's obstruction of justice. That was Turley's point. Right. That's exactly Turley's point. Right. He's being a lawyer. And the fact is that the fact, the Democrats even put that in the document is demonstrative of just how empty and stupid this entire thing is. They are, they're grasping at. I mean, that quote from Schiff over the last 48 hours. where he was asked, why don't you just wait to talk to, you know, like the actual people who are in the room? Right.
Starting point is 00:43:59 So far they've interviewed what, eight, 12 witnesses, something like that. Only one has ever had a conversation with Trump. It was Gordon Sondland. And Sondland did not provide them the evidence they needed for intense requisite to commit bribery. In fact, what did he say? He said, I spoke to Trump on the phone and Trump said no quid pro quo. I want no quid pro quo. Right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:44:14 And so he didn't give them what they needed. They could wait. They could wait for Giuliani. They could wait for Maldane. They could wait for Bolton. They could wait for Pence. There are a bunch of people who talked directly to Trump about this specific issue. They could wait for it.
Starting point is 00:44:25 And they asked Schiff about it. And Schiff's take was, well, we can't, we don't need to wait for the facts. Yeah, you're damn right, you don't need to wait for the facts because you don't, you understand you ain't got nothing. And not only that, they know that after a certain point, the electorate is going to say, well, you know, the elections coming up, why can't we decide? But that's what the Democrats don't want. That's the whole thing they hate about Donald Trump is that he is the guy who came in, who was sent by basically the forgotten people to say, you know what, here's a guy. You know how you've been calling us racist and you've been calling us sexist. Here's a guy who's going to call you names. Well, you know, there are two amazing quotes from Democratic congressmen that show you the whole impeachment game.
Starting point is 00:44:59 One is Adam Schiff, who said Trump poses a grave threat to the country if we wait for all the facts to come out. Don't have any facts. You pointed out on Twitter today. And the second one is from Representative Al Green, who said, I fear that if we don't impeach this president, that he will get reelected. And that's what they're really worried about. By the way, can we note for a second? I mean, it's a change of topic, but I just want to note that the fall of Elizabeth Warren has been wonderful. watch. Oh, yeah. That in the last month, her poll numbers have just gone, like, she, she climbed
Starting point is 00:45:27 gradually and her dissent has not been nearly as gradual. I mean, it is a steep descent. The more people see of Elizabeth Warren, the less they like her. And you know what you can trace it? You trace it to that health care release. That's right. Which is, it shows such a lie. The Democrats have been saying, we win on health care. We win by releasing our radical health care plans. Well, look at Elizabeth Warren because she's been tanking ever since. And it speaks to what you were saying before, is the elector looked at that and said, that's a bad plan. Right. I mean, the people who are gaining right Now, like Klobuchar is getting in New Hampshire, who do the judge is doing well in New Hampshire and in Iowa?
Starting point is 00:45:57 Biden is still leading nationally. The only, Bloomberg is doing okay nationally. The only people who have a prayer at getting the nomination right now are people who are either quasi-moderate or masquerading as moderates. Those are the only people. And honestly, I think that's kind of hopeful for the country. Because my hope was it would be nice if we had two parties that we're fighting at least in the realm of reality,
Starting point is 00:46:17 like in the general realm. I'm not saying like on the right side of reality, but like anywhere in the general universe. of reality? Like, I would rather have a Biden versus Trump election because, again, I think that Biden is not trying to fundamentally destroy the bases of the country in the same way as Elizabeth Warren. Like, I think that he'd be horrible. I think he'd be a bad president. I don't want him to be president. But he's not nearly as dangerous as people who are out there proclaiming loudly that they're going to rip away. Listen, if it's show Biden, you can't, we're not going to be able to say
Starting point is 00:46:45 this is the most important election of our lifetime. I agree. Frankly, it'll be the first election of our lifetime where you won't be able to say that it's not the most important election. We'll all He'll say it, but you're right. It won't be his money. It won't be a flight 93 election. Whatever else you say about Trump, aside from his affect, aside from the way he talks, he's been a kind of moderate Republican president in terms of what he's accomplished, you know. I just don't understand why her health care plan wasn't more aspirational.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Like, I feel like if she had come out and said, have you ever heard the wolf cry? Blue corn move. People would have, you know, things all of you know. I would have lined up just to hear the rest of this. Why didn't Kamala Harris never do that? Really, why didn't she ever? I don't understand it. I do not understand it for the life of me.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Why didn't she ever turn to Elizabeth Warren on that stage? I'd say, listen, it's a black woman in America who's experienced discrimination, had to live in a time when the vestiges of segregation were still present in America. How could you, Elizabeth Warren, claim for 30 years of your career that you were a member of a put-upon minority group when you experienced every benefit of white privilege? How has no one in the Democratic Party done that? Kamala Harris, like, how did she never do that? She goes to her entire campaign without doing that.
Starting point is 00:47:54 She's not afraid to attack. She attacked Biden on race around. Right? I mean, I'm completely nonsense. The trouble with the Pocahontas attack is it's now identified as a Trump attack. That's right. Trump has totally bought it. They have the big problem with this. Every time somebody says something sensible, they say, well, that's a GOP talking point. You think it's also the truth, you know?
Starting point is 00:48:10 And by the way, it's effective even among Democrats, because you saw this with regard exactly to Elizabeth Warren's health care plan. Is that Buttigieg would say, like, that's not realistic or Klobuchar would say, that's not realistic. And then somebody like Julian Castro jumped and say, that's a Republican. talking point. And then Elizabeth Warren would tank in the polls. Because it turns out that some of those Republican talking points are talking points because they're true. They're true. No, this is like the Fox News meme where they say, that's just Fox News. Is it the truth or not? You know, some things on Fox News aren't true. Some things are true, you know. Speaking of Fox News, by the way, so I have a friend who watched this new Fox News movie,
Starting point is 00:48:41 this bombshell. Oh, yeah. I said it was pretty terrible. I have to just say, I am so deeply irritated with Hollywood. They've now made two separate Fox News films. There's me too. They made one for HBO and they made this thing with all of the big stars in it with Charlize Theron and Nicole Kidman. And have they made? Has there been any production deal on a Harvey Weinstein film, which is the thing that led this entire thing all about NBC. Not just this. This thing drives me crazy.
Starting point is 00:49:07 George Stephanopoulos worked for Bill Clinton silencing women who said they were raped and abused. Okay. That's what he did for Bill. That was his job. Now he's the top ABC newsman. ABC killed the Jeffrey Epstein story during the Hillary Clinton. Who did not kill himself. And yeah, we did not kill him.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Oh, that Jeffrey. They spiked the Jeffrey Epstein story. And then when after the person who released the fact that they spiked it, not the person who spiked it, they didn't say, oh, we're going to find the person who spiked that story and fire him. They said, we're going to find the person who released the story that the Epstein swiped and find her. And are you also getting to that point that came out in the new book about Epstein,
Starting point is 00:49:44 that George Stephanopoulos was friends with Jeffrey Epstein? Are you also? He went to the guy's party. Yeah. No, this is an amazing thing. amazing act of corruption that CBS fired an innocent woman, it turned out, for maybe releasing the fact that they had spiked the story. It drives me crazy.
Starting point is 00:50:01 This fact that they were raping little girls. I mean, not little girls. They're raping teenage girls. And this guy was doing this en masse. He was doing it like a factory. Bill Clinton was involved. Prince Andrew was involved. These major people.
Starting point is 00:50:13 And the press covered it up. And it drives me nuts. And they're making fiction. Okay, Roger Ailes, I'm sure he did bad things. I'll take one. Matt Lauer movie, by the way. When's the Matt Lauer movie, by the way? And the Matt Lauer movie, too. It's in development, I think. It's not Greenlee. But what's nice is at the Oscars, we'll get a bunch of lectures from Hollywood where this entire thing originated. Just like last year, we'll get an entire lecture about how the rest of the American people do not understand how women are put upon in this country. And let these people sexually harassed people every single, we who sexually harassed women and originated the casting couch. Let us explain to you, the American people.
Starting point is 00:50:46 There's an actual sculpture of the casting room. Of the casting couch. at Hollywood and Highland. It's unbelievable. You can't make it. Look, it's already December. As much as we love getting seasonal around here, you can tell, we're very...
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Starting point is 00:52:17 By the way, did you see John Kerry? Sorry, quickly. Do you see John Kerry endorsed Joe Biden today? Come on. He did. It was great. Which was very exciting, because when one dead person endorses another dead person and times are at hand. And it's great for me because I actually do a fairly good joke, John Kerry, impersonation. And so I rarely get to break it out anymore, right? Because he's never in the news.
Starting point is 00:52:36 It's very sad when you actually work to craft a good impersonation. When you watch so much Gilligan's Island that you can totally turn wise. When he's like, John Kerry, reporting for duty, I'm here to an The pinnacle of the weekly standard, the pinnacle of the weekly standard was when he, when Kerry got nominated, they just put his face in the cover and the headline was, why the long face? Alicia. Speaking of people who get Botox, let's circle back to Hollywood real quick. I mean, seriously, that was the thing that was the most obvious to me about that Joe Biden telling that guy he was a fatso. The Botox is like crazy.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Need to find out who his doctor is. All right. I think it's just embalming fluid. This next question comes from a great Daily Wire subscriber who wants to know, how is it that Hollywood can get totalitarian regimes, you know, big, bad government, with dystopian sci-fi, so right, yet seem oblivious to their leftist political side, being likely to cause that in the actual future? Because stories conform to reality, great stories conform to reality,
Starting point is 00:53:41 and the people who work in Hollywood are very talented, many of them tell good stories, and stories conform to reality. unfortunately the people who tell stories don't always conform to reality so that if you watch every great movie every truly great movie has a conservative theme conservative the way we talk about conservatives
Starting point is 00:53:57 being in service to reality you mean truth the truth that's right you cannot tell this is where the left has gone totally wrong by the way the left had this theory and they've been pushing this theory since I was a kid that there's no such thing as truth there's only storytelling there's only narrative and people actually
Starting point is 00:54:14 say this they say well if you change the narrative you change the reality. But that's not true. As a lifelong, as one of the very few people on Earth who has made a living telling stories, I can tell you that stories are responsible to the truth and they express truth. And if they don't express truth, people come out of the theater and think that wasn't a good movie. They don't know why it's a good movie. I think there's a reason why. So I've been working on a new book, which is going to come out next August, hopefully, and I'm really pumping through it. And one of the chief assumptions of the progressive left, and this has been true for a couple of hundred years, is the idea.
Starting point is 00:54:46 of unlimited human malleability. That if the system were just changed, everybody would become glorious. We'd all love each other. And that all of the problems in modern society, all disparities are attributable to the evils of society. If we would just change the system, then everybody would magically transform into angels. They don't believe in the founding idea that if men were angels, you wouldn't need any government. If men were devils, then no government would be sufficient. They don't believe the idea that human beings are sinful, but we have the capacity to fight our sin
Starting point is 00:55:11 using our reason and our will, which is a religious concept. They don't believe any of that. They actually believe the idea that human beings are basically clay that are molded by the systems in which they live, which is a Rousseau idea. Well, all story cannot survive on that premise because all stories are told about characters. And every character that you know, every single person you know has characteristics. Characteristics are by nature somewhat immutable. James Bond has characteristics. If James Bond were to suddenly become, you know, incredibly effeminate and unable to shoot a gun, he wouldn't be James Bond anymore.
Starting point is 00:55:39 He'd be not James Bond. And so every movie that you've ever watched is about characters who, are real human beings who are human beings because every human being you know is not capable of magically shape-shifting and turning into something, at least not in terms of their persona. And so because human nature is fixed in movies, because it has to be, in order for characters to have character arc or even to be characters, that means that you immediately have to be living in a conservative universe. You know, I used to have a priest in the Episcopal Church who was a corrupt guy, and I knew he was
Starting point is 00:56:09 a corrupt guy, and he used to say people are infinitely malleable. Who is his hero? Dietrich Bonhofer. Dietrich Bonhofer who sat in New York smoking cigarettes and thinking, I have to go back to Germany because I have to face Hitler and die doing that because he wasn't infinitely malleable. He had guts and he had integrity and he had principles and he lived those principles out. So the thing is, the story of Dietrich Bonhofer moved this guy, but he was still capable of holding this absolutely conflicting theory,
Starting point is 00:56:37 which is the theory that you say, that people are infinitely malleable and of course they're not. Great question. Alicia, give us another one. All right. I feel like I know what Ben and Drew might teach if they were professors, but this question is for all of you guys. If you could choose a college course in anything you wanted to teach, what would it be and why?
Starting point is 00:56:54 Obviously, political and historical writing. I would probably talk about book length works that say maybe teach the succinct economy of words and I would not show up and prepare anything. And that would be the whole course. What I would like to teach, What I would most like to teach, the thing I'm most interested in, is theology. And I actually do believe that I know much more about most college subjects than most college professors today.
Starting point is 00:57:23 And yet I am in no way qualified to teach any of these things at colleges. That's more an indictment of the university system as we have it today. Drew, you got to teach it to college this last year. I did. I really had a great time. I mean, I was at Hillsdale, so it was a great college. And I taught about covering the culture. And it was just fascinating to watch. you know, the kids really responded to it.
Starting point is 00:57:43 They really liked the course, which was very gratifying, but they liked it because I was saying things like, you know, when you read a newspaper, you can see the way they're manipulating stories. But if it were up to me, I would teach literature, and I'd probably teach romantic poetry. I think that this is, that the British romantics, the English romantics were a highly important moment.
Starting point is 00:58:01 They lived in a time very much like ours when a revolution had inspired people and then failed. For them, it was the French Revolution. For us, it's the 60s. They had to rebuild the world in the world, in the wake of that revolution, and they still had people who were saying, like we have, oh, the revolution was the great thing,
Starting point is 00:58:16 and then they had guys like Wordsworth who were saying, wait a minute, that didn't work out very well, and they excoriated Wordsworth while he became one of the great minds of the time. So I would just like to teach them. I think they're incredibly relevant. I think their writing is so insanely beautiful, and I think they were doing something really important
Starting point is 00:58:33 that speaks into the moment. The fact that Drew wants to teach poetry explains why he's still in favor of the university system. The only place that would pay anyone to actually teach poetry. Not this university. Yeah, exactly. But for me, the thing that I'd be interested in teaching about would be the ideals of the founding era.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Because I think they are wildly misinterpreted. I think people lie about them. And I think that those ideals still provide the glue that holds the country together. Now, admittedly, I'm writing a book on this right now. So that's what's in my mind. In my mind. But the fact is that the more you investigate what exactly was going through the founding father's head, what their influences were, what exactly were the chief ideals upon which they were
Starting point is 00:59:10 the building of the greatest country in the history of humanity, the more you realize that these were eternal principles. And the great lie that the left is told is that these principles were not eternal, but they were written just for the time. There's a sort of historicist approach to the American founding that all of this was built for a time that's no longer relevant. You see this in the writings of Woodrow Wilson, who really talked a lot about the idea, but the American founding, you know, what they said about government, that was applicable then. But human nature has changed, and the economy has changed. And you see this with the left very often when they talk about economics. Well, the economic system has
Starting point is 00:59:38 fundamentally changed. You hear this, even from some people on the right, I think Tucker Carlson does this. The economic system has fundamentally changed because of technology and because of globalization and free trade. And one of the things that the founders made clear is that they were basing their philosophy not on the contingencies of historical circumstance. They were basing it on their view of eternal, immutable human nature. And that view is what provided the basis for a capitalist free market system, particularly in economics, because free market systems are not systems that are built by man to serve us. They are just a manifestation of the idea that you own your own labor and that you as a human being have rights that pre-exist government. And those rights, because they pre-exist government, are more important than the government.
Starting point is 01:00:18 And if the government does not exist to protect those rights, the government has completely destroyed its rationale for being in the first place. Free markets are simply a recognition of human nature and of human rights. They're not a system that is built. And because the left believes that every system is built and because the left wants to build systems and because they've engaged in what Hyatt called the fatal conceit, which is they get a bunch of smart people in the room, and they can rule the world, and they can put together all the smart ideas.
Starting point is 01:00:43 That's never been true. It will never be true. And the founders knew that, which is why the system they built has been durable and successful. So I would like to teach about economics if I knew anything about it. I will say this, though. I just got back from being in Egypt,
Starting point is 01:00:57 and it's a very unbelievable country. If anybody has the opportunity to go, you should. It's safe. You know, they had the revolution back in 2011. their tourism has really suffered, but the military and the police do a really good job of making sure that American tourists are safe to visit as long as you stay, you know, stay in the places you're supposed to be. And you see these monuments, 5,000. I mean, you can't really wrap your head around. And I, in another forum, I have an awful lot to say about it from a religious point of view. I had a lot of great kind of realizations there. The fact that Egypt is so central to Judaism is so central to Christianity in ways that I think Jews and Christians sometimes omit, miss. Those are things that. Again, in another form, it would be a lot of fun for the four of us to talk about. But I did have an economic realization when I was there because it's at the intersection of the Middle East and Africa. It's a country where the military owns everything that has value.
Starting point is 01:01:46 And so the average person lives in third world conditions. And if you've ever visited the third world, there are a lot of things that all third world countries have in common. One of them is there's literal garbage everywhere. There's rubble everywhere because no one is invested in improving their surroundings. People have a kind of hopelessness, a kind of fatalism, and they don't take those kinds of actions in third world countries. And the other thing that they have in all third world countries, and I actually find it kind of a shame. When you talk to Americans about it, they often say that it's one of the charming things about visiting these countries, is that they have a kind of barter system. But, you know, we haggled, oh, I bought this little Chatsky, and we bar, we bartered for, we haggled over the price.
Starting point is 01:02:26 They wanted two American dollars, and I only gave them one American dollar, and it was so much fun. That is why they're poor. This is the thing that upsets me is when you sort of reduce people down to being cultural novelties instead of treating them like humans. The worst idea ever had by man, and it's been had by almost every man who ever live, is that there is a fixed amount of money. And therefore, in order for you to win, I would have to lose. And in order for me to win, you would have to lose.
Starting point is 01:02:55 And when you visit third world countries, you really experience this, that in almost every human interaction, there is an element of competition. that they're trying to get you to do something that isn't in your interest. Because they don't feel that they've won unless they also feel that you've lost. This is why when you go into third world countries, people get killed at cell phone kiosks in the mall. That doesn't happen in America because when you go to a cell phone kiosk in the mall, the cell phone says $2.99 on a price tag. And if you say, hey, I'll give you $1.99, the guy goes, no, it's written right there.
Starting point is 01:03:29 $2.99. That forces you to make a moral decision, really. Not a moral, but a value-based decision. Is that phone worth more to me than the $299 that are in my pocket? The $299 in my pocket are worth more to Verizon than the phone, which they have. And therefore, when you enter into that transaction, everyone is made richer. Verizon got what they valued more. I got what I valued more.
Starting point is 01:03:54 We're both happy. But when you go into the third world, one of the things that happened to us where we're at the pyramid, had somebody came up, they wanted to sell me this, this, uh, hat. My friend, my friend, my friend, my friend, my friend, my friend, only, only one dollar. No, no, thank you. I don't need a hat. My friend, my friend, one, for you, only one dollar. No, I appreciate it. Then he just put the hat on my head. And now he wins, because he put the hat on my head. I have engaged in the transaction. I wasn't strong enough to beat him. And now he holds out his hand to get his $1. He is happy because he won, and I lost.
Starting point is 01:04:29 He's happy because he was able to force me to engage in a transaction that I did not want to take part in. And he got his. I lost. He won. And I think when, you know, because you're an American and you actually just want to kind of move along and take a picture with a camel. So you just give the guy the dollar at a certain point. You're like, whatever, dude. I got plenty of $1.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Here, have $1. You move about your business. He walks away thinking, these Americans are so weak. He let me put a hat on his hand and extract from him the $1. What he doesn't understand is that, no, I am completely flush with $1. I could buy these hats until Santa Claus comes down to the gym. Man, I'm lousy with Egyptian hats. I'm lousy with $1.
Starting point is 01:05:10 And the reason I'm lousy with $1 is because I don't believe in your idea that economies are fixed, that money is fixed. I don't believe that I have to lose in order for you to win. And because of that, we've created the entire modern world. And I only bring all of this up, basically to humble brag that I was in Egypt. But I also bring it up because you see it in America, and you see it more and more in America. You see it sometimes with immigrant communities. If you go to a car wash or something that's owned by first generation Americans, sometimes they'll pull this, you know, how much for a car wash? For you and my friend?
Starting point is 01:05:43 And I'm like, no, we're not friends. No for you, my friend. How much does it cost? I just want to determine whether or not it's worth my investment. And I want you not to be one up in me. I don't want you to feel like you want. I want to decide whether or not I give you money and you give me service. But you don't just see it with first generation Americans.
Starting point is 01:05:59 The entire premise of almost every candidate at these Democrat debates is this premise. No, I agree with it. There's an article in the New York Times today in which Elizabeth Warren was saying that taxing rich people will be good for the economy just because you're taxing them. I know. It literally says in the piece, you don't have to spend the money in any way. Just hurting rich people is somehow going to help the economy. This is going back to the idea of stories and truth because money is a story about the truth of value.
Starting point is 01:06:25 Yes. And so it's infinite. There's infinite amount of money if there's infinite. value. And what they don't understand is it's a kind of idolatry. What idolatry is, is taking the story for the fact. That's what it is. It's taking the idol for the God. It's taking the money for the value. And once you understand that these things represent a truth and the truth is immutable, then you're actually in a whole new world. And when you stand in Egypt, you know, when you stand at the foot of these monuments that are 5,000 years old,
Starting point is 01:06:52 that literally defy imagination, it's actually fairly humbling. Because what it tells us is mankind was capable of doing this 3,000 years before Christ. When Cleopatra... When Cleopatra looked upon the pyramid, we think of Cleopatra and the Sphinx and the Pyramid when Cleopatra looked at the pyramid, it was older to her eyes than Cleopatra is to our eyes now.
Starting point is 01:07:17 It would be shorter for us to get to her than it would be... They were capable of doing this 5,000 years ago and then the bad idea set in. And that culture has not created anything in the last really 2,500 years. Why? Why were they capable of creating the greatest wonders
Starting point is 01:07:34 that the world had ever known? And now it's just rubble and ruin and tragedy. And it's because of this bad idea. You can only extract so much value before you run out of value. Extractive value has a limit. Non-extractive value has no limit.
Starting point is 01:07:47 Created value is limited. I'll tell you one more thing about being in Egypt. Hold on. Were you in Egypt? When I was in Egypt, Egypt and I was in Egypt, my Netflix account got hacked. What? And when you're, when you live, even, even I, who only sort of been tangentially involved in public life, the first of you think is, oh, crap, what had I been watching? What's my history
Starting point is 01:08:05 been real? What's going to wind up on the internet? I was watching the Irishman, weren't you? It's not good, by the way. It was a reminder to me yet again to use express VPN. When you were traveling, especially, you have to protect your data. The best way to do that is to use a VPN, and the best VPN is ExpressVPN. It's ExpressVPN. There's no question about it. And this is such an obvious product for the people who are listening to this show, okay? Because if you're listening to this show, you probably check out some pretty weird stuff on the old internet, huh? You open up that incognito window. Type in www.dudge report. Drudgery at daily wire.com. You look at some pretty scandalous stuff. So you've got to get it. It's,
Starting point is 01:08:47 I know what everyone thinks, because I used to think this. I think nobody wants my data. No, who cares about my dad, a little old me? They do. A lot of people want your data. A lot of people are looking at it, it costs... In your case, the HR department. Every single day. You've got to make sure you protect your data. A way to do that is ExpressVPN.
Starting point is 01:09:05 ExpressVPN is unparalleled in protecting your data. I've been using ExpressVPN for a couple of years. And I know the wages of not using ExpressVPN because actually I had my credit card hacked a couple of years ago and somebody bought a bunch of NFL tickets. And I thought to myself, well, good for them. I mean, at least that's a solid person. But still, I wasn't super happy about it.
Starting point is 01:09:22 And I thought ExpressVPN, that'll probably do the trick. And it has. So the only question is why have you not gotten ExpressVPN yet? Visit our special link right now at ExpressVPN.com slash Ben and get an extra 3-vPN.com slash Ben and get a special link and get an extra 3 months of ExpressVPN.com slash Ben to get started. And basically you install it on your computer or your phone. It takes one click and now it just runs in the background of your computer. Keeps everything safe. You never have to think about it again. ExpressVPN.com slash Ben to get started. So we warned you that a guest was coming. He is the godfather of successful podcast. We have admired him for a long time. Ben and I actually hosted him at one of the very first political events that we had at our first failed website, which is a precursor to this, are enormously successful. He co-stars alongside me in a new film called No Safe Spaces. Everybody here has seen the movie. If you watch it slowly, if you don't take a bathroom break, you will see Jeremy. boring himself, lowercase G, lowercase K, God King, walking the halls of Congress, beside the guy they were pointing the camera. As your co-star in this movie, I would point out, there are about 30 frames of this film
Starting point is 01:10:35 where you, if you squint really hard, you can see me, so you got to go check it out. Yeah, but Adam Carolla, on the other hand, the whole film's lousy with Adam. The film is called No Safe Spaces. It was made by our friend Justin Folk, who's a terrific, talented director. He and in his own way is the godfather of our business because he created some of the very for Andrew Clinton videos. No Safe Spaces is opening up nationwide in theaters tomorrow, and Adam
Starting point is 01:10:58 is here to talk to us about it, but first we're going to show you this delightful trailer. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be used against you. You are not listening. I want your job to be taken from you. A protest has turned violent at California, Berkeley.
Starting point is 01:11:18 This is why we're fighting for the soul of America. You should be able to share ideas without fear of being fired from your job or shout it down. You are not to be heard. This is one of the few things one could say we have no precedent for in the United States. You have the right to remain silent. The only way we separate the good ideas from the bad ideas is to be free to say whatever we want about them. Anything you say will be used against it. It's a fantastic film.
Starting point is 01:11:51 It opens tomorrow. And Adam, thanks for stopping by and talk to us. Thanks for having. How did you just materialize that? Yeah, it was amazing. Incredible. Jeremy, you've gotten so much more handsome. I went full doctored Bombay, if you guys remember watching Be Witch.
Starting point is 01:12:06 In the middle of a polo match. Remember that? It's always somewhere. Yes. Tell us a little bit about the film. We've all had the opportunity to see it and love it, but the audience obviously hasn't. I'll tell you a little inside baseball story that was reminding of one of thinking, you know, we spoke in front of Congress at the same time. And Ben is an A student.
Starting point is 01:12:32 And I am a horrible wretched student from North Hollywood High. And but you get older and, you know, you get successful and you think, you know, you have some nice cars, a nice home and a nice bank account. You think, you can do this. And I flew out on a like Wednesday night, red eye. kind of thing landed. We had to hit it early in the morning. And of course, I was going to work on this on the airplane, but I had a few drinks. What are you going to do? Watch three episodes of T.J. Hooker, like, fell asleep and then showed up the next morning. And there was Ben, like typed pages, single space, a minute a page. And he was like the A student. And I had a stentopad with like arrows going like, No, do this one first and like a pirate drawing on here.
Starting point is 01:13:24 And they're all like, I'm going like, what's the order? What's the order? And I go, oh, you're going after Ben. And all of a sudden, I was in the ninth grade and I was a crappy student and you were doing the oral presentation before me. And I was like, I literally was 14 years old. Adam, I want to know, since maybe we could break some news here, did you at least give Ben a swirley after that?
Starting point is 01:13:47 I mean, he did, it didn't work out exactly like it probably worked out in high school, which is I gave the, the A presentation that he made everybody laugh and nobody gave it crazy. Right, yeah, and no girl. And you should have a picture of a dicks in some reason. You just sort of held one up. I didn't know why. It was in the congressional record and everything. He knocked it out of the park, like didn't inhale his entire thing, no commas or pauses.
Starting point is 01:14:11 And I remember going, come on, dude. And then I was, yeah, but I got a few laughs and made up. did. I did what I did in junior high, which is, I'm not prepared. I don't have the material, but if I can crack a couple of jokes, maybe I'll get a C-minus. I sat behind both of you, and I thought, there's only one guy here I want to be friends with. Yeah, he's in business with the other one. Yeah, no safe space is, well, just a chance to work with Dennis Prager for me is awesome. And you guys all know. He's such a great guy just to sort to hang out with. It's almost like when the cameras start rolling. It's like, oh, we can
Starting point is 01:14:47 stop kibbutzing about whatever fun stuff we were talking about. So I toured the country, done some events with Dennis, done his program. He'd done my program. And so the producer said, hey, you want to do this project with Dennis Pranger? And I was like, oh, yeah, for sure. That'll be fun. And then, of course, on a real important subject. And if you see the movie, you know, we don't really call it a doc. It's kind of a film because it's got lots of reenactments and lots of different stories and animation. It has a lot of humor in it. like the greatest part of the bill so good yeah i it's a really great piece is dennis who's you know so incredibly humble always says you know it's a great movie not because i'm in it not because i'm in
Starting point is 01:15:28 it like he always says to do the humble part and uh it's a great movie but we were along for the ride like the producers did a great job that justin did a great job at directing it and it's a really effective piece like i mean it it it'll move you to tears at the end but you also you watch it and you go, this is important. And the timing couldn't be better. And it's like, bring the kids. Because if you got a 12, 13, 14 year old at home and this is what's waiting for them on that college campus, they need a little vaccination. Have you had the chance to show the film to any sort of non-conservative audiences?
Starting point is 01:16:07 Have you seen any people on the left react to the film at all? We just show it and kind of who shows up, who shows up, is who shows up? And I think we get a pretty mixed bag in there. It probably leans, you know, in terms of the audience, more conservative. But we've gotten some good notices and some good feedback from folks on the left. And I think Dennis always is careful to make the distinction between liberal and left. I think that's one of its more brilliant observations. I think we all think of ourselves as liberal in a sort of classic sense, but the left stuff is not liberal.
Starting point is 01:16:45 It's sort of the opposite. It's the opposite of liberal. I have to think that a lot of people who, sort of traditional Democrats in this country, who may not agree with us on a lot of social issues, may not even agree with us about tax policy, but would still be pretty appalled that what they thought college was supposed to be about, which is this exchange of ideas, maybe even getting a little trouble with your ideas, trying out some ideas that maybe as you get a little older, you don't even keep them, but you test the water of what you're going to believe, and that just isn't happening on campus right now.
Starting point is 01:17:11 It seems like it's not being allowed at all. That's so funny because I was just doing a Martha McCallum show and she was talking about diversity on the campus and the math teacher getting in all the scrum and everything. And it's like diversity, diversity, diversity, yeah, but only in skin color, not in opinions, not in ideas. I mean, isn't the ultimate diversity, the diversity of opinion? This notion of like, we're looking for diversity. So it's a whole bunch of different colored people who think exactly the same way. That's your definition of diversity. That's the opposite.
Starting point is 01:17:44 And there's something, Ben, you'll be glad I say constantly into the microphone and then toward the heavens when I'm alone, which is in the doc, in the film, when you go to speak to Berkeley and they have like the vice chancellor or something. And he says this. And this is something I think is important where they go. The guy goes, I disagree with everything Ben Shapiro has to say, but I agree. He has the right to say it. And I'm always like, you don't disagree with everything Ben Shapiro has to say.
Starting point is 01:18:16 As a matter of fact, if you do, then you're an idiot. Because most of what Ben Shapiro says is correct, there's a small subsection of stuff that has to do with faith, religion, and history and your personal beliefs and things like that. But most of the family, the country, the education, the pay the taxes, like be a good neighbor. You agree. And I think there's a big problem where they go, I don't agree with anything that Dennis Prager has to say. You agree with 96% of what Dennis Prager says. If you're a normal right thinking, I don't mean to the right, just a normal, correct thinking person, you will agree with that. You'll agree with Ben.
Starting point is 01:18:55 I think it's creating this chasm of like, we don't agree on anything. All right, now we're going to move forward. You agree on 80% of things. Exactly right. I mean, I spoke at Boston University a couple of weeks ago. I was boycott. I was protested by 200 people outside doing this mass protest calling me a white superman. supremacist and a racist. And inside, I was talking about how Frederick Douglass should be on the national
Starting point is 01:19:15 currency and the evils of slavery and Jim Crow in American life. As I because they've never listened to a word. And there was a guy who's going around with the camera, Fleckis, he was going around with the camera, asking people, so what do you know about what Shapiro has said? Nobody knew anything, of course. But that's, that is what happens on campus. One of the things I wanted to ask you is, you know, Dennis and you occupy obviously very different spaces. And Dennis, you know, is sort of in our more traditional space. But you have that crossover with the Hollywood community because you have a lot of friends you got started in more traditional Hollywood. You have a lot of friends, particularly in the comedic community. Have they seen the film at all? Have they given you feedback on sort of the
Starting point is 01:19:49 theme of it? We had a few out to the premiere who really enjoyed it. And then there's some, obviously, that are in the movie, Camel and Brian Callan. Yeah. Harlan Williams came out to the premiere and some others' names escape me right now. I will, I'm going to Seth McFarland's Christmas party in a week. So maybe. I'll sneak a Blu-ray in and pop it into, I'll pop out his DVD of Reds with Warren Batting. And I'll pop in, no safe spaces. And he'll probably be so many sheets of the wind by the time he gets in the bed. He might have watched all.
Starting point is 01:20:29 One of the things I've been seeing, though, is that there, I mean, it seems like every comedy special is now at least half directed at the extraordinarily woke. Every single one is directed at the over-extension of the SJW mentality of the far-left mentality that says that you can't talk to us. I mean, people who we disagree with a lot of the time, but are beginning to realize that the left has pushed too far on this sort of stuff. People who you're friends with, but would never have a conversation with me. Even Seth McFarlane, the guy's made his entire fortune, basically,
Starting point is 01:20:58 on pushing the envelope of free speech, right? Yeah, yeah, I think there's a saturation point. I think you're seeing it with a lot of the comedians pushing back. I think that Dave Chappelle, Bill Burr, had one, where you're seeing, it's comedian's job to sort of be the canary in the coal mine. We have to, or the Bellwether, the divining rod, or whatever the metaphor is. So, like, comedians have to sort of take in what's going on around us in society, the milieu, the zeitgeist, you know, like bring it in.
Starting point is 01:21:30 And then, wait, why was I such a bad student with all those big words? I'm going to sue Walter Reed Jr. We did go to the same junior high back. We did. It's our jobs as comedians to kind of feel what's going on and then push against it. So if there's too much this, we're going to have to give that. And when you feel the pushback, that means the comedians have hit their saturation point. And once the comedians hit the saturation point, they'll be the first people on the beach. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:22:04 They'll be the first out of the Higgins craft. That's how comedy were. Do you lose, not to get too personal, but I mean, do you lose friends in Hollywood by doing the things that you do, by saying the things you do? No, just jobs. But none of those guys who were going to hire me, my friends. No, I honestly, I was laughing with my wife there because I had like another documentary, not get into Sundance and whatever. And it's just you'll never, I'll never, nothing with my name will, I make documentaries all day long. None of them are getting into Sundance.
Starting point is 01:22:34 Nothing, no, nothing I do. I said to my wife, I said, this Adam Carolla, he's never getting a sundance. I'm going by Nome de Plume. I said, my new name, Jules Dash. And she said, I don't even know if that's a man or a woman's name. And I said, arbitrary categories. I have been a fan of yours forever. And I was an early reader of your prophetic work in 50 years will all be chicks.
Starting point is 01:23:00 When I watched the movie at the premiere, I, even I was shocked at how crazy it's gotten. I was in college not that long ago. I'm only half joking because all of those jokes have sort of come true. Do you feel vindicated? Yeah, but I think I have to die to really realize that feeling because all I do is sort of, as a comedian and a sort of junior psychologist, all I do is try to see what's happening before it's happening. I mean, that's all comedians do is kind of feel what's,
Starting point is 01:23:36 going on and get there before before everyone else does and so 10 years ago i wrote in 50 years wall be jicks because i felt all of this coming and if you read the book you we will it is all these things are are touched upon and it's kind of your job to be a little sousayer or a little nostrodomacy if you're if you're plugged in because you can kind of like you'll see things like you study things. Like you study the Torah. I studied daytime TV commercial. When I was a kid and I'd stay home from Walter Reed Jr. High in 1977,
Starting point is 01:24:16 every daytime TV commercial was, you want to drive a truck? I'm Wally Thor. We go to the school of trucking in two weeks, get your class C license. They were like every commercial that was on Wednesday at 1 o'clock was drive a truck, small appliance repair for the women. It was learned to work in a doctor's world.
Starting point is 01:24:35 I don't know without secretary or something. So it was all, get a job. Get a job. You're unemployed. You're home during the day. Get a job. Now every daytime commercials, a class action lawsuit. Did you have some pubic mesh explode or something?
Starting point is 01:24:51 Were you exposed to chalk? Were you in like the towel? You can sue for them? You can sue. And then it gets into like a wrongful termination. discrimination at work. And I was laughing with Mark Garagos the other day. I said, my kids, kids are going to be home watching TV.
Starting point is 01:25:10 And Mark Garagos, the third, is going to come on the television and go, has your boss asked you to do stuff? Because I think we'll be there by that, right? Oh, yeah. I mean, well, it was not in 50 years. It was in five, right? You were just, it was just, I mean, that whole, you have a whole section of that book, which is, it is the funniest book ever written. It's so funny.
Starting point is 01:25:37 The whole section in the book where you talk about your son and the expectation that if you're not a homophobic, then you'll engage in sexual Congress, a member of the same sex. And we literally, there are articles in, like, regularly now about how if you are a biological male and you do not wish to have sex, but a biological male who identifies as a female, then you're gay. Right. So if you won't actually have sex with a biological man as a biological man because he identifies as a female, this actually makes you a homosexual. Right. Yeah, it's so liberating. Yeah, the thing that's funny, I always sort of crack up about that in 50 years of all the chicks is because I said in 50 years and it started happening about four years after the book was published and that was 10 years ago. But I always say like, you know, in all those climate movies where the earth's going to be in.
Starting point is 01:26:28 enveloped in tidal waves and the thing. There's always that scene about 18 minutes into Act 1 where it's like Dr. Festbender, what's going on? Like, I was way off. We said we had 30 years. We have until Wednesday. It's Wednesday.
Starting point is 01:26:46 There's always that scene where to stay off. That's the way I feel with that book. I said 50 years. I meant 20 minutes. So the film is no safe spaces. It is in theaters nationwide tomorrow. Yeah. nationwide couple hundred theaters. You can go to no safespaces.com.
Starting point is 01:27:02 And, you know, I think it's a movie that if your audience who is watching who doesn't get a lot of movies for them, so to speak, and everyone gets preaching, everything's all anti-fracking docs and everything like that. It's a little something for you. Plus, it's definitely important, by the way,
Starting point is 01:27:20 for everybody to go see it. I'm just going to put that out there, that when people actually make films that are not catering to the hard left and directed by Elizabeth Banks, You should actually go see those films. Especially if they're good, if they're entertaining and fun to watch. That was said when I said not by Elizabeth.
Starting point is 01:27:33 That was incorporated in that. This film is actually hilarious. Seeing the reenactment of young Dennis Prager in his early life in Moscow. It was worth the price of admission. And since four of the five of us at this table do star in the film, you would also be doing us a great courtesy and making Drew. My name is misspelled in the thanks. I always like this, a K-L-A-V-E-N.
Starting point is 01:27:56 Perfectly appropriate. Perfectly appropriate. Yeah. Well, we know you have a hard out. Thanks for spending time with us. Thank you, guys. This is fun. Let's do it again soon.
Starting point is 01:28:05 Sooner than later. Oh, do I get up? Oh, okay. Let's just send this damn thing. Pull a plug. Thanks, Adam's that. I don't want to be. Thanks everybody for tuning in to the Daily Wire backstage.
Starting point is 01:28:17 We're going to do it again probably in a month or so. And we're going to, if you stick around a little bit after, head over to dailywire.com. If you are a insider, we are going to be doing. discussion. We are. Yeah, with the four of us. Even Ben's going to be in it, and he'll be in a little bit better mood once he, you know, has some more popcorn off the floor. Thanks a lot. We'll see you next time. Fake laugh in three, two, p. Poo. Daily Wire backstage is produced by Robert Sterling, directed by Mike Joyner. Executive producer, me. Senior producer, Jonathan Hay. Supervising producer is Mathis Glover. Technical producer is Austin Stevens. Assistant director, Pavel
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