The Michael Knowles Show - Daily Wire Backstage State of the Union 2024 Coverage

Episode Date: March 8, 2024

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Save up to 40% your first year at lifelock.com slash Spotify. Terms apply. Hey, Michael Knowles here. The latest episode of Backstage State of the Union 2024 coverage is available now. Join Ben Shapiro, Andrew Claibin, Matt Walsh, and the God King Jeremy Boring as they unpacked Joe Biden's State of the Union address with me piping in from the actual State of the Union. Take a listen. Welcome to the Daily Wires' live coverage of the State of the Union. Tonight I'm joined by two of the best-looking men in the business. I don't want to say who,

but I don't want to start no fights. I'm your host, Jeremy Boring. We're glad to have you with us. Before we get started, I want to remind you that all of our Daily Wire Plus members can submit questions, and we will do our best to answer a lot of them in the back half of the show coming up after the president's remark. That's right. It's that time of year again, the worst night of the year, the night that the president stands up and goes on and on and on and on and on. It doesn't really matter to me if it's a Republican president or a Democrat president. People used to say, oh, Trump, it's going to be great. It was not great.

The State of the Union is one of the worst things that happens in American public life. That's why we join together so that you can suffer right here with us. The only thing that makes tonight's State of the Union somewhat more bearable to me is that while we're here suffering it with whiskey and Mayflower cigars and whatever it is that, Ben's allowed to eat according to his religion. Michael Knowles is actually there in person. He's suffering in an actual seat. He's gone and his cigars are here. It's perfect. The best use of Michael.

He totally deserves this. Good for him. He's finally getting what he deserves. Here's a little clip that Michael sent us from the event itself. Hey, gents. Sorry that I can't be with you all. That's actually not true at all. I'm very glad I can't be with you all because I'm here at the Capitol with Congressman Andy Ogles, who very kindly invited me here for the State of the Union.

So you jerks can all watch it on camera, but we'll be here for the real thing. Andy, you just gave me a very important button on one of the biggest issues facing the country right now. Well, every small town in America, every town in America is a border town because of Joe Biden and this failed policies. And so you have the results of Lake and Riley and so many others that have now come forward in the news of the assaults and the rapes and the murders and the burglaries at the hands of an illegal at the feet. You can lay this at the feet of Joe Biden. To bring up Reagan's line, are you better now than you were three years ago? and virtually any measure, that is not the case. So we'll see how the president can possibly spin this tonight.

You know, one is hard-pressed to think of even one area that has improved or even remained status quo under his tenure. So we'll see what he can do if he can even stay awake for the speech. And then we'll speak to you afterward. That's Michael Knowles at the Capitol for the event, probably the greatest night of his life. Honestly, if any of us were going to have to go to this thing, who would love it more than Michael?

Absolutely. An actual political creaker. Again, he totally deserves it. Anybody who enjoys it should be there. Yeah, that's right. Not only is it the worst night, just because the president talks like a dumb ass for a thousand years and lists all the things he's not going to do, but he's going to yell at you about. But also, it's just a monarchic anti-constitutional spectacle. You have the president of the United States descending among the various legislators who all ooh and awe over him and rush to grip and grin and take a picture with him and make kissy face.

And then he's like, go it over there in the corner. There's old Bob. Bob was a plumber during World War II. Stand up, Bob, and Bob's... No, no, no, no, no. I have an ungood authority that Bob will not be there tonight and that every single person the president points out will be there to advocate for slaughtering innocent babies. Oh, that's even better. That's even better.

I actually think that's true tonight. That's right. He's big into the abortion talk. And so it's all of that. And then half the crowd stands up half the time, half the crowd sits down, half the time, and every saw you have Nancy Pelosi rip something up in the background. And that's pretty much the night. It's garbage. The painful person,

part for me is the press. The press has now gone so far. I thought I was inured to it. I thought I'd gotten used to it. And then I saw Joe Scarborough saying that Biden was, this was the best Biden ever. So first of all, can I just say, Joe Scarborough now looks exactly like Waldo from where's Waldo? So we've answered at least one important question. Where is Waldo? Where is Woldo? But I just thought, like, what has to happen to you before you can speak those words? F you, he said, if you don't agree that this is, this guy is on the point. He's alpha. He's really, it was the, it was the SNL routine come to life. And I just can't,

what Noel said, I hate to admit it, but Noel said something true, but he's, he's right. There's no area of American life that's better since Biden took office that he has any control over. And yet, you know, for the next two days, we're going to be listening to actual journalists wearing who can dress themselves, wearing ties and dresses and looking like respectable people, lying about everything that just happened. Well, Ben and I had a conversation today with a journalist who is asking us about why Gina Carano won't consent to being vaccinated if she she purportedly wants to get back into the movie business, but she's unwilling to get vaccinated, which is now the industry standard in Hollywood. And this guy, it was a wonderful conversation we had with him. I'm sure he's on the other side, but it wasn't hostile in any way.

But he brought this up as an, and he was actually, he said, God, hell me understand. Literally don't understand. I do not understand. I can't square it. She says that what she wants is to be back in the movies, but she won't do the thing. The only impediment is getting vaccinated. Why won't she just get vaccinated? Please, I genuinely don't understand. And I thought, yeah, I know you don't understand because you live in such a bubble. The left has built, they're against walls, ostensibly, but they have built walls between them and us such that they don't even understand how we think. I'm not saying that he would agree if he knew how we think.

But you would imagine that he would at least understand the basic premise of what it is. I have to tell you, I spent this week in New York, and I was talking to a lot of publishing people and a lot of stuff about my work and all this stuff. And they're the same way. They're like, well, you can compromise here, and you can cut this out. And I keep saying to him, I can't, because it's not like I disagree with woke a little bit. I think woke is evil. I think you guys are the bad guys.

So it's kind of like saying, you know, you could just put a nice thing about Hitler here, you know. And I'm a nice thing about Mao. But this speaks to, I think, one of the things that's happening. into Biden. So when Biden took office, he had about a 55, 60 percent approval rating, and he came into office as a supposed moderate. He was somebody who's going to unify the country and govern from the center left, right? He won the entire race on the basis of not being Bernie Sanders on the one hand and not being Donald Trump on the other. And so he enters office, and that's sort of the basis of his entire administration. And very quickly he shifts into, I'm going to be FDR.

And that means I'm going to swivel to the radical left and I'm going to make myself subject to every single thing the radical left wants of me. And I'm just going to keep pandering to the radical left. The problem is there aren't that many radical leftists. And so what has actually happened is that the reason he's doing poorly in the polls is not just because his base is unenthused about him. It's because independents do not like him. Moderates do not like him. I've been saying this for for weeks at this point. Joe Biden is not the moderate in this race. Donald Trump is the moderate in this race. If you look at him positionally on every single issue, Donald Trump has now taken the center of the political spectrum, that includes issues where we all disagree with him, right? On abortion,

for example, he might argue for say a 16-week federal abortion ban, which is way too late for any of us. But for sort of the median American voter that's a lot closer than Joe Biden who's saying abortion up to a point of birth by every available poll. About 48% of Americans support a 16-week abortion ban. Only 24% of Americans want abortion available all the way up to birth. The rest want more restrictions than that. So that's not Biden's position. That's Trump's position. When you look at the Middle East, the crazies in Dearborn Michigan are dictating to Joe Biden,

that he needs to be somehow putting pressure on Israel to stop the killing of members of Hamas. That is not where the median American voter is. The American voter is, median American voter is in one of two places either. I don't want to hear about it anymore, no care, which is totally understandable. Or I like Israel more than Hamas. The number of people in America who like Hamas more than Israel is minuscule. I mean, truly minuscule. And those are the people that Joe Biden is catering to in the middle of this entire. In fairness, every one of the people in America who prefers Hamas to Israel is currently blocking the presidential route between the White House and the Capitol. I'm not making this up. All 17 to 18 of them are actually attempting to impede President Biden's approach to the Capitol. And he's such a weakling that he won't actually just say to the cops.

Okay, move everybody. Move them. Right. He'll just leave him there. It'll be four hours from now and we'll be sitting here. Look these morons. One of the things we miss, I think, because we pay attention to the news is most people are so taken with appearances. I talk to Democrats all the time who say, you know, the Democrat Party has gone too far, but they still believe in Joe Biden. because he looks like that guy who used to be the moderate. I mean, I've always detest the guy. I've always hated him. I think he's corrupt.

I think he's mean. I think he's small. People forget. He gave us our dear friend Andrew Breitbart, who would just mark the 12th year since Breitbart's death. Breitbart became a conservative in essence because of Joe Biden. That's right. Because of Clarence Thomas.

And the other thing about Biden, first of all, I just want to say that I feel right at home because the start to this broadcast has been so negative and cynical. It's great. I love it. The other thing about Biden, though, he's the radical in the race. He also, you know, what I think people are starting to finally realize about him

is that he really hates the American people, and that's not just like a slogan. He actually does. This has always been one of the distinctions between Trump and Biden, because Trump has the reputation of, you know, attacking people and going after people.

But Trump always goes after the media. He goes after celebrity. He goes after politicians. He goes after world leaders. Trump never attacks people. He never attacks just like the American people. But that's exactly what Biden does. And I would look for that. That's one thing to look for in the state of union address is when does he start going after the MAGA Republicans? Because that's his favorite phrase now. Maga Republican means just people who vote for Trump. That's right. And that's, you know, that's tens of millions of Americans. Well, it's another distinction that they don't understand on the left that I always get a kick out of. Anytime a reporter write something negative. about Ben and I, they refer to us as MAGA Republicans, or alt-right. Four years ago, it was alt-right, now it's MAGER Republicans. It's like, you don't understand that no one hates Ben more than the alt-right. And neither of us are MAGA Republicans, although, listen, Donald Trump's the nominee,

and I'm happy. Both voted from in 2020. Both vote for them again. That's right. But the left has blinded itself. But, you know, the truth is that politics has just rotted all of our brains for the point that we can't see distinctions. One of the things I've been amused by all week is that when I talk to people on the left and when I talk to people on the right at the moment, they both tell me, this is the most important election of our lifetime, they both tell me our democracy itself is on the line. And so to confront this existential threat, both parties have elevated men who will either one of them be the oldest man ever elected to president, both of whom presided over large chunks of the worst failure of our government in the history of the republic, which is the response to COVID-19, both of whom are

are obviously diminished, although one of them... Way more than the other. More obviously diminished. It just... And both sides are going, I can't believe you would vote for that other guy.

Can't you see how old and corrupt and out of touch? What that shows me is that we are so convinced that our politics are so important that we're willing to overlook sort of the log in our own eye to a large degree.

And so both parties are in this position of thinking that the other, not only is evil, which is, that's one conversation, but out of their minds for actually elevating the person whom they're elevated. I think, to be fair, one of the things I've been talking about repeatedly on my show is I really do believe that we're watching the end of, really of my generation, of two failed ideas. One is the great society, which has been a complete and utter failure, but it has fed money. power into the Democrat Party, which is why they keep amping up the charges of racism against individuals and now the entire nation to deflect from the fact that really this stuff needs to be gotten rid of. And that's Joe Biden. He embodies that failure.

And the other is the failure of movement conservatism, the idea that we're somehow going to repeal the great society and maybe even dial back the New Deal and bring back a rebirth of freedom. Donald Trump, as you say, is not a conservative. He looks like a conservative. He talks like a conservative. He gestures like a conservative. But the stuff coming out of his mouth isn't conservatism. And I think the reason that nobody can see what's happening is nobody knows what comes next.

Nobody's actually talking in the way I think they should be talking in big, theoretical terms about what exactly the new movement, the new conservatism looks like. I've been talking to 25-year-olds and listening to a lot of their podcasts. And, you know, it's frightening. It sounds a little bit like Knowles, you know. It sounds a little bit like this kind of proto-authoritarianism, this idea that this guy, Bukkelly, what a great guy. he suspended constitutional rights and got rid of the gangsters.

He is a good guy, though. In that country, he did the right thing. But I'm afraid that they like the suspension of rights more than they like the cleaning up of the gangsters. That's what bothers me. It's not the individual situation. It's the idea, what are they cheering? Are they cheering the arrests of the... Well, I mean, not to get off on a tangent, but in his case, they're cheering a leader who cares about the safety and security of his people and will do what's necessary to secure that, that...

safety and to make their lives better because that's, you know, it's like a radical concept in this country, but your leaders are supposed to make your life better. They're supposed to make it, you know, easier for you to live and raise a family. And, and, but, but doing that requires you to do ugly, it's, it's, it's ugly. It requires you to do ugly things sometimes. I can see the point in the case of Bucaly, I just think a lot of people cheering him are cheering suspension of the Constitution more than the, what you just. Well, so I think, I think that the, the key proviso, I would just add to what you're saying, and obviously I agree with that is with minimum possible force, meaning that the idea that you should use the means necessary

in order to secure the safety and security of your people, but using the minimum amount of government compulsion you have to do in order to achieve that is a different thing from saying that the government requires vast overarching powers in order to constantly do that thing. And so the idea of, you know, for example, if Bukkele was doing what he's doing as an emergency power, I think most people are okay with that, like on the normal. person level. And the question is in the United States, what kind of powers are we talking about delegating to the government for how long and how broad? When it comes to the movement conservatism point, I would agree with you, except I feel, you know, like the no true Scotsman communist here.

I would agree with you, except I don't think movement conservatism has ever been tried. There's never been a candidate in my lifetime running for president of the United States who vowed to actually seriously tackle things like the deficit, vowed to seriously tackle things like the Great Society program. George W. Bush increased spending. He campaigned as a compassionate conservative. In 1996, Bob Dole was not campaigning as a slash and burn government guy. In 1992, George H.W. Bush was not campaigning as a slash and burn government guy. In fact, even Ronald Reagan was not a slash and burn government guy. He talked like it, but he actually was not.

He wildly expanded government expenditures under his reign. So, you know, the idea that what comes next might be something that looks like, say, for not looking south of the border again, something like Javier Miele on the right, that would not be a bad thing. Like, Javier Melae coming in and just vastly cutting programs. I'm totally in favor of that. The big question for me tonight, you know, getting back to Joe Biden, and away from South America. The big question for me is, of course,

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Well, yeah, that too. And money. It is amazing to me. I think that the Democrats really thought that everybody would just ignore the fact that Joe Biden is no longer sentient. Everybody knows that's the underlying question of tonight is whether they're going to have to break out the defibrillators. The only question is how serious the health crisis will be. I'm sure there are over under bets on how long he will pause during the speech to regain it. If somebody, you can end his presidency tonight if you unplug the teleprompter.

If you unplug the teleprompter, dude is toast because he will just start me. That's what I'm, oh, my rosary, and it's on it. That's just handing out Werther's original. There's only one way, I truly think, honestly, that he can save the speech tonight. That's to reach into the podium and get one of these. Oh, no. And may the force be with you. We're not going to explain that at all?

No, that's not the way of our show. We make obscure jokes and we'll explain the joke. Okay, for those who haven't seen. What are you going to explain this? Because it's a great clip, and so we have to show it. Okay, okay, okay. Okay, fine. So this went viral.

In 2003, in Chile, we're back south of the border. In Chile, they ran Star Wars A New Hope on TV, and they did not tell the advertisers that they were not allowed to do this. So the advertisers just did something unique with Cervesa Cristal, and so we bring you this masterpiece. You fought in the Clone Wars? Yes. I was once a Jedi Knight the same as your father.

I wish I'd known him. He was the best star pilot in the galaxy and a cunning warrior. I understand you've become quite a good pilot yourself, and he was a good friend. Which reminds me. I have something here for you. Your father wanted you to have this when you were old enough. I just say when I watch that I'm reminded by, I'm reminded about how bad the writing and acting in Star Wars is. God bless it, Matt. It really is, it doesn't hold up at all.

It's not, I'm not trying to be controversial. I'm just saying it's not true at all. It's remotely true. Ben, because you watched it. No, my kids watch it. What's the first time you saw Star Wars? I don't know, seven maybe. Exactly. You have a, you have a nostalgic attachment to it. If you wait like I did and you watch it first time when you're like 25, you go like, this is Star Wars? This is what everyone's freaking out about? I have to tell you, this is the one opinion of Matt's. I agree with 100%. You do it. You do agree. Of course you do, because you thought the talkies would never laugh. By the way, you want to know something funny?

Ale Guinness in that movie is 56. Is he? Yeah, he's born 1914. Every time I watch him, I think he's such an intelligent actor. He must be thinking, I hope the paycheck for this is very good because I'm making a fool of myself in time. They're not America. Are you going to defend the actor? I never thought I'd like Michael.

You think Mark Hamill? Okay, Mark Hamill is indefensible. But, but I will say that Alic Guinness is great in everything. And he's great in this. And Harrison Ford is iconic. He is. I mean, you want to talk about the greatest run? Sorry, Alec Guinness was 50.

Let's see, he was 63. Anyway. You don't have to defend Star Wars to these bozos. It's one of the most successful films of all time. Successful, no question about that. And it deserves it. No, no, no. It destroyed the movie industry.

It destroyed the movie industry? Yeah, yeah. In what way? That's an interesting take. Why'd you say that? Because the IQ of movies before Star Wars was up around 140. After Star Wars, the movie industry is not, the movies are now 90, you know. What are you talking about?

I like that take. I'm going to take. If I take that take that take? That's a stupid take. A little, you know, copyrighted. The IQ of the movie industry started to really wreck itself during Marvel era. Okay, that's late, but it's really during Marvel era. But this created the Marvel era.

This created the place. This is 30 years before. No, no, no. Seventy-seven. It took a long time for the cancer to reach through the entire body. I mean, now, go back and watch like the worst B-movie

made in 1948, and the intelligence level is so far above Star Wars, and the depth of feeling and humanity. People now think that they're good guys in the best. Yes, but there was a decade called the 60s, and the movies sucked. And then there's a decade called the 70s, and most of the movies, except for anything made by Francis Ford Coppola,

sucked. Okay? And then you got Star Wars, and it's the movie industry because literally there wouldn't be a movie industry by turning it into a stupid That's Amadeus won best picture three years after them. I'm so glad I brought this up I'm so glad I brought up and also I yeah that's that's a great take I haven't it's absolutely true I mean I used to come when we were just starting the Daily Wire I used to come in and you guys would be arguing whether Spider-Man was really dead or not and I would think like how old are these guys these people these people who are over 12 no he's talking about like Austin and Mathis would be arguing about it He's blaming us.

I know. Because from his advantage, we all look the same. And by we, I mean, anyone under 60? I used to yell at you about it because you were doing it. You would sit there. I remember you sitting there yelling at people. I felt like, who cares? He's a little guy in a costume.

Spider-Man? Spider-Man. What are you talking about? It was some movie where he died and you were explaining to somebody that he had to come back in the next film. I'm sorry. Okay, I can't believe these. You know, people tell me conversations that I've had with other people, and I can't believe that I've had those conversations

so I just don't believe that that's... I'm not going to defend Star Wars. Star Wars requires no offense. Except in Kathleen Kennedy. I will say this. Except in Kathleen Kennedy. Well, the real problem with Star Wars now, too, if you waited a long time to watch it,

is that it's almost impossible to actually see the original trilogy without all of the self-destructive additions that were made later, that I think Lucas did on purpose. I think he had a sort of subconscious need to destroy the original trilogy. trilogy so that, because he did not direct Empire or Jedi. Empire is one of the great movies ever made.

That's right. And I think that after he did write and direct the prequels, he needed to go back and make the original trilogy much worse so that people would quit saying you're ruining Star Wars. So he actually rewrote even your memory of Star Wars to make it as bad as his prequels were. I mean, my biggest problem with Star Wars was always that this is supposed to be highly advanced technology, they can go to the speed of light. And they're using essentially swords, like glowing swords. That's never, that repel lasers, my friend. But, but, but, but, but even so, it's just, it just doesn't make sense with all the other technology that that's the weapon you're

using is a glowing sword. It's actually a good point too. I'm sorry. Thank you. Why is that a good point? That's a terrible point. Anyway, well, you know, we can talk Star Wars all night, but let's talk about the old man who might die tonight. So, anyway, there. He's sitting right here. Wait a So I want to speak to that. I think Biden's going to do a great job tonight. Obviously, I hate the state of the union. I think every word he's going to say is a lie. But I think the performance will not be what everyone thinks it is.

I think we always think, we always go into these things, thinking that the performance is going to be bad. In fact, during Trump, people thought the same thing. Oh, he's so blustery and bumbling, and he's going to get up there and it's going to be awful. But it's not true. They get up there as a very controlled environment. They're reading from the teleprompter.

Their side bails them out and claps for them anytime. there's any sign of trouble. I think that it's actually a very hard forum to fail in. I think that we, on the right, correctly observe, of course, that Biden is very old, too old to be president, and diminished. But I think that we sort of assume that he's more diminished than he is. And when you actually put him up on that stage in front of a teleprompter and pump a bunch of heroin into it, he's going to do a fine. Although, he'll do fine. Well, so here's where I disagree. And I don't think it's possible for him to do fine. The reason I say that is because I'm going to use the Roger Ailes before all the bad stuff about Roger Ailes came out test. Okay, and the Roger Ailes test was...

Can he twirl? Yeah, exactly. Can he twirl? The answer is no, he can't. No, but the actual test that he used to determine whether somebody was good on TV or not is he would mute the TV. So if he was watching a news program, he wanted to determine if somebody should be an anchor or not, he would watch them and he would mute the TV and see if he was still interested in watching the TV, which is actually quite a good test because TV's a visual medium. Well, the thing about Joe Biden is that if you mute the TV, he looks like absolutely. death warmed over. He looks awful. He looks so much worse than he did. Even four years ago, it's astonishing. The amount of decline that he has undergone, I'm not even talking about, like,

how often he slurs his words, or reaches for a word that he can't find, or starts bumbling basic facts, like who is the president of Mexico and who is the president of Egypt. I'm talking about just looking at him as a physical specimen of a human being. I know people who are 81, who are in significantly better shape than Joe Biden. Like far, far better shaped than Joe Biden. He has undergone a steep decline. And so the very possibility, so when you look at him, if you don't see Kamala Harris lurking in the background, you're doing it wrong because that dude is not I mean, I don't have a much better shape, but Trump is also diminished. He is diminished. He is not 2016 Donald Trump. He's not, but they've done everything they could possibly do to him to destroy him.

And he's kind of amazing. He's still making jokes. Well, he's preserved his life energy by eating cheeseburgers and never exercising. Amazing. Peter O'Toole said the only exercise he gets is carrying the coffins of people who exercise. Also, the delta between, the delta between 26. Trump and 2024 Trump is not nearly the delta between. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. And that's the real question.

It's not that, of course, he's diminished, but he was starting from a point where he was a stand-up comedian who, like, makes funny jokes. And you weren't expecting him to deliver a disquisition on the future of Iraq or something. Right. You weren't expecting that if you watched from Joe Biden either, but that's what Joe Biden held himself up to be. Joe Biden always thought of himself as this sort of senatorial demosthenes, right? He was going to be out there just speaking pearls of wisdom and, and speaking fluently and smoothly with the gift of gab and all that.

Like Donald Trump has always spoken in short declarative sentences with about a fourth-grade vocation. That's not a rip on him. It's one of the reasons he's a successful communicator. Because of that, it hides a myriad of sins. It's not as though he's a guy searching for the word myriad. He's not going to be doing that, right? He's not going to be doing that, right?

He's, like, the only thing that he's searching for is whether to use dumb or stupid or great or magnificent, right? Those are the big puzzles. So when he has a brain fart for a moment, it also just fits well within his over. Right? That's what he does. Like, okay, fine. I agree he's diminished.

I do have to say. He can barely walk. When he goes, him walking down, I swear, when he walks down the steps here, they're going to be so careful about him walking down the steps in the ramp down here. That's why. Actually, you know, there has not been a state of the union that mattered in my entire lifetime. No.

And generally, they're forgotten within a week. Within, really the next day. no one's talking about. This does have the chance to actually be a state of the union that will matter politically if there's a moment like that. If he slips and falls, if he has a really bad brain fart type moment, it does have the chance of actually being a significant state of union. I just don't think we'll actually get that. I think that this is, I think that if you set yourself up to think you're about to see Joe Biden fail, that you're probably setting yourself up to fail. No, we're seeing some footage here now of the Supreme Court justices entering the House chamber. And you may notice that all of the Democrats,

Democrat senators and female senators and Congresswomen are wearing white, and that's to show that they stand with the people who rip babies out of the wombs. Shouldn't it be red? I'm sorry. You know, they don't say white long in that line of work. Yeah, props, by the way, here to Samuel Alito, who never shows up for this. Yes. So every year Samuel Alito's like, we're a co-equal branch of government. I'm not doing this stupid nonsense. And then he doesn't show up. And cheers to Samuel Alito,

because that is precisely. I don't see Clarence Thomas there either. Yeah. I mean, when was the last time Joe Biden spoke on camera for more than 20 minutes live? When he gave that rousing, fascist independence. That was great. I love the Hellraiser, too. Speaking of Star Wars, he literally looked like he was. I mean, it was Palpatine in the throne. It was Palpatine. It was pretty wonderful.

You know, to go back to Trump to Trump for a minute, though. I have to say the stuff they have done to him, I believe that every indictment against him, though not everyone is untrue, some of them are, they're all unfair, and they're obviously lawfare, they're obviously political. Of course, yeah. And he's, like, still, like, upbeat.

And you can see. Why wouldn't he be? He's winning. I know, but it's real. Like, even if they put you through that and you were winning, wouldn't it beat you down a little bit? You know, he's like,

he's having that time in his life. Okay, so here's my problem with this. I don't know what that means. Him being grumpy is a form of upbeat. Right. Like, really, what's he? I mean, pugnacious is what you're looking for. Donald Trump does not have a mode where he's in, like, mourning and self-reflection.

Right. That mode does not exist in spring. And so if you attack him, him being pugnacious is just the norm. But he doesn't even have a mode where he feels, like, beaten. It's like, I'm sorry, but it's moving, you know, it's kind of like when they say, oh, you've got to pay half a billion dollars. And he's like, a corrupt guy. I'm going to take him down.

I'm kind of thinking, like, you go get him, buddy, you know. Let me listen, I agree with all of that. Also, I just don't wish to attribute it. It's like when people say, oh, he did an amazing job fighting cancer. And it's like, what else was he going to do? Surrender? I mean, like, what are his choices here? I mean, he's running for president.

I don't even catch him in a candid moment, like staring at his shoes, thinking, you know, like that, I could go to prison. Listen, he's a high energy dude. And the fact that he's a high energy dude is the reason why he is such a contrast with Biden. Because by all rights, he should be running 10 points behind Biden, regardless of what Biden is doing his president, given all the things that he's been hit with. And given the fact that, you know, he lost the last election. And now he's running again. It's the same guy. And yet. And yet, there he is. I mean, he's, he's ahead in virtually all the swing states.

And the New York Times are saying things like, well, one conviction, and he'll be over. No. He'll be elected in the last life. Yeah, one conviction. He'll be president of the world. Yeah, this is wishful thinking. It's like every single time, it's Lucy in the football. Every single, we've got him this time. How did he escape? How did it happen this time? I will say he's this party's nominee, which he wasn't the last time we were all together in one room. He's not officially the party nominee, but he's the last man standing and almost certainly, you know, acts of God notwithstanding, he's the nominee for his party.

And the truth is he has been since the raid on Mar-a-Lago. Before the raid on Mar-a-Lago, there's the idea that there might be a primary. After the raid on Mar-a-Lago, it pretty quickly became evident that to the Republican electorate, this was an incumbent president. In other words, the primary itself was perfunctory, just like Joe Biden's primary was perfunctory. I think that that is why some of the criticisms, for example, of, say, Ron DeSantis were and how he ran a terrible campaign. I agreed with our buddy Kurt Schlichter, like, maybe he did, maybe he didn't.

It wouldn't matter if he had run a great campaign. I agree. It was Donald Trump. It wouldn't have mattered, but I also think he ran a terrible campaign. I mean, again, both of those things could be true, but I think that basically there were two factors that cut against him. One was the feeling of defensive protection that the Republican base took toward Trump the minute he got hit with the indictment. And the other was Joe Biden collapsing, absolutely collapsing, the dying star in the polling number. Because the entire basis for a competitor to Trump was, he can't win, I can win.

That's the reason you're running against him. I don't say collapsing star. I feel like dying star gives me visions of Kamala ascending, and I don't really want to. There just is no correct way to go after Trump if you're in a primary. That's what, you know, what do you do? Because you can not respond to him. That's what DeSantis did at first. Everyone's like, well, you had to go after him. And you go after him, you alienate his supporters. It's just no, it's a no-in proposition. The rules don't apply to him. His basic argument also was, I'll be Trump but better, which is just not a very good sales. Well, I mean, it would be a good sales pitch of Trump were running at 35 percent. But Trump wasn't running at 35 percent. Trump was running dead even with Biden at the time. And so that- I think that Joe Biden is a once-in-a-generation opportunity, Republicans that we didn't take. There is a tragedy to DeSantis, who is the most successful governor of my lifetime,

not being able to clinch the nomination. I agree. But he couldn't clinch the nomination. I mean, it's funny to think, though, that, like, Nikki Haley, I think, would shrouds Joe Biden, but I don't want Nick Haley to be president either. I don't think she'd be a very good president. Well, I mean, the real question about what Trump does in term two is going to be how serious he is about appointing serious people.

Yep. And whether they'll show up. That's the question. Will they? I think that when somebody's the president, people show up around him. I do think that. But I think that Trump also has this thing in his head

that, you know, if you weren't loyal to Trump from beginning to end, this time he's not going to take in anybody who even showed an ounce of disloyalty. And so there could be a sort of internal battle inside Trump administration, too, between the loyalists who are not amazingly good at their job and the people who might be actually really good at their job in transformation. in being able to, say, clean out the executive branch, but one said a bad word about Donald Trump or endorse somebody else in a primary or something.

Right. That could be a real problem. I will say this, though, for Donald Trump. Obviously, I'm not a fan of Donald Trump. I wish he wasn't the nominee. I hope like he'll wins the general, because he is the nominee. He doesn't hold grudges. I actually think that there's this image

that Donald Trump holds grudges. Donald Trump holds a grudge right up until the grudge ends. So if you supported DeSantis, if you bashed Trump during the primary, some of Donald Trump supporters may not forgive you. Donald Trump will stop carrying the second that you say something nice about. But you have to say the nice thing. You don't say the nice thing. You're dead forever forever, no matter what.

But you say the nice thing, he lets it go instantly. Which there's a kind of, there's a kind of charm to that. No, he does have a kind of charm. And the press enhances his charm because there were, worse than he is. So that everything, all the kind of overstatements, he makes the hyperbole and all that stuff, don't look like anything compared to the lies of the press. And not only that, they take those and then they treat them absolutely literally. Yes. Right. I mean, that's, that's the part where we all start doing. Come on. Yeah. I mean, Shane Gillis has a wonderful

routine about Donald Trump's speech that he made after Abu Bakar al-Baghdadi was killed. Oh, yes. It's a wonderful, wonderful routine. When he says, like, what he's saying about the wonders of Trump and how Trump came out, and where Obama after they killed bin Laden, he came out, he was very somber and he was trying to explain in very measured tones what had happened. Trump came out and he's like, we killed him, he's dead, he died like a dog. Dirty dog. And everybody found that charming. And the media are like, I can't believe he would talk like that. That's just so terrible. And nobody looks at Trump that way anymore. Like, it's all baked into the cake. Donald, here's the other thing. I think that there is a whole

group of Americans who are older, who are looking at younger Americans and they're like, what's happening right now isn't normal. Like, it's weird and it's not normal. And for younger Americans, guess what? This is normal. This has been happening since 2015. It is now 2024. There are people who are going to vote in the next election cycle who are legitimately nine or 10 years old when Donald Trump became a presidential candidate for the first time. And a lot of them, a lot of them. I had this guy I interviewed this week, a 24-year-old conservative talker with a small show. And he said, you know, 2020 happens. You watch these riots go on. You watch the press tell you that these riots will cure COVID. But if you go to it,

Donald Trump rally that will spread COVID and the riots are mostly peaceful with the building. He said, you realize these people are not here for me. They don't, they hate me. Sorry, on the screen, they're just saying this is the greatest collection of IQ I've ever seen. Masey Hirono and Bernie Sanders laughing together about how many people they would put in the gulag if they actually had the opportunity. Combined age of 650. 650. Their combined age is significantly higher than their combined IQ. She wasn't wearing white, which I appreciate in this setting. That is true. I hate all these people.

people. I truly do. I mean, like, Congress is filled with Dullards. The Supreme Court is, eh. Will there be actual support after this for a presidential age limit? No, no, no. There should be. There should be 100%. Like, it's unassailable in my mind that obviously 75. Some point you stopped. Should be the cutoff, if not earlier. Yeah, that's correct. I would cut off much earlier. But this is telling us something, right? It's telling us that the boomer generation is the last generation that was playing. Well, I think that something you've said before, Drew, and I think

this is right, is that yes, we can yell with the boomer generation and blame them, and they deserve a lot. But I think they think they're holding back something that's catastrophic. I do. I do, I do, too. They probably are. Yes. Yes. I agree. I mean, you think about even the, you know, we're talking about the DEI and the

airline industry. Right. And I think you've got this generation of, and I've seen people talk about this generation of like boomer pilots who are just keeping us from catastrophe. And once they shuffle off, we're in charge. That's what this kid said, by the way. He said, you know, you guys have a lot to answer for speaking to me. He said, you guys have a lot to answer for, but you knew what you were doing.

You were competent. You knew how to do your jobs. He said, that's just not true anymore. Yeah, we will hearken back to the good old days when planes didn't crash. I mean, one of the pieces of reportage that we've done on the DEI stuff is on the surgery industry. Good, good, good piece. And the fact that DEI has now infused, you know, like the people who are cutting you open. I mean, the insanity that is about to be unleashed among people of the younger generation is totally crazy.

The middle is not, there is no middle anymore. The middle has been completely obliterated. The truth is not that there wasn't a conservative movement, true, the fact is that there was this sort of, everyone hates the blob. And for reason, the blob is terrible. Yeah. The question is always what comes after the blob. Right. And so it could be something good, or it could be something even worse than the blob. That is certainly a real possibility.

You could get a polarization between the wokeies on one hand. and the, and, you know, people who really do believe that the government should have extraordinary powers at the top level to ensure whatever they want from that side. I mean, it could get way worse from here. As I'm fond of telling Jeremy, it always looks dark at just before it goes pitch black. I'm just going to pour that on there. But there is something that I think would make us all feel better at this point, of course. Oh, boy. You know, the only thing, actually.

So if you thought that joke was funny, you should become a daily wire plus subscriber. You'll be able to ask. Even if you didn't, yeah. You'll be able to ask us questions in the back half, like, what the hell? Which would be valid? We'd try to answer that. They say the president is still in the car, so it may be a minute here. I don't know if that means that he's still stuck behind the...

Has Camel Harris ever looked not awkward? No. She's like the Michael Scott of vice presidents. You know that she had... there's like a 20% chance that she is our next president. Higher than that. Hiring that at some point, yeah. Yeah.

I mean, I would say right now that there's maybe a 50% chance because if you figure that Biden has a 50% shot of being president, then she almost certainly will be president because he will die, unfortunately, because he don't want that to happen to anybody. There's Jill who's guilty for pushing her, the greatest doctor of our time. There she is. She's quite the doctor. Very doctory.

Well, they made it in. have run over a few protesters. That's exciting. Drew, what were you saying? I still refuse to believe Biden's going to be the nominee. He'll be, that he'll be the candidate. Of course he's going to be the candidate. Well, I mean, at this point, they have no choice.

Oh, they have one choice, but only if Biden were to die. The only path would be, actually, that isn't a path. The only path would be if they somehow convince Biden to step aside. If he dies, Kamala Harris is the nominee and Donald Trump is the next president. but if they could get, if they could get Biden to step aside and get Kamala, or get... Yeah, look at this cabinet.

It's awful. Lincoln, to me, who has set the world on fire. Janet Yellen, who's created 40-year inflation. Lloyd Austin, fresh from the hospital, who has done nothing but cripple the American military

with woke garbage. What a cavalcade of comedy geniuses we have over here. America Garland, the most corrupt agee of the modern era. I think, though, Can I just say Tomla Harris being the first

woman to be president of the United States would be pretty funny stuff. That would be some pretty funny stuff. And they get there by default. She's not elected. She just inherits it. This cabinet is such, it is such a bleep show. It's such a bleep show.

Like one after the other, my goodness. Until you see them all in a room together, you're like, wow. That's an amazing thing. It's like, watch it. It's looking like a super. rot painting of stupidity. Each individual dot, and then you pull back and suddenly it's an entire picture of Sunday

in the park with George of morons. Pointalism of evil. I mean, there's Pete Buttigieg who went on paternity leave, and he's probably still on paternity leave, and we just don't know it. Deb Halland, Secretary of the Interior, who, as far as I'm aware, does absolutely nothing. I actually think that Democrats believe that Pete Buttigieg could be president. Yeah, they do believe it.

They definitely believe it. Man, they're high in their own supply. They are so high in their own supply. They think that Joe Biden is having trouble with his minority base. Wait until you run Pete Buttigieg. See how that works out for you. Meanwhile, the transportation industry has, like, fallen apart. I don't know what he really does anyway, but...

There's Alejandro Mayorkas. He just walked in with two illegal immigrants under his jacket, smuggling them directly into the House of Congress. So that's exciting news for him. May Yorkers is the closest thing we have to Putin. He's the closest thing we have to a man who speaks with no connection to his heart or mind. The words come out of his mouth,

and he actually means nothing that he says. He's the most corrupt individual. How dare you speak about Vladimir Putin that way? He just wants the best for the Russian people. He just wants the best side. He's a strong man. He's a strong man, strong league. Ridesbear is the whole thing.

I mean, he's 40 IQ points dumber than Putin, though, I would say. That's the only different. Well, that may be, but just as wicked. Man, it's so depressing watching these people. It's so depressing. Madam, I'm becoming like you now. This is your moment. Becoming like you.

Yeah. Just my. No, this is your moment. This is every. All my energy just drops and just stroke my much shorter beard. You know, I don't know. I'm not sure I care anymore about life, about anything. We're definitely getting people excited to watch this thing.

Yeah, I know. Yeah, exactly. Are we the uppers or are we the uppers over here? Well, maybe there's a rerun of the Flintstones on us. We could go back to the Star Wars conversation. I was enjoying that. That was good, dude. Star Wars is good.

You were in the room. Okay, so I have a question. I do have a question for his long as long as I'm going to do this. this. You're also anti- Empire? I'm anti-the-entire thing. You're a terrible person and you have no taste. That's this terrible. Okay.

This is my... You think the Empire Strikes Back is not... Fine, the Oscars are happening Sunday night. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let's do you think that's like high art, Empire Strikes Back? Yes. First of all, Darth Vader, again, when you're 25 years old, you watch it for... Darth Vader's a super corny villain.

He's just corny. He's not... He's not... He's not... He's not... He's not... He's not intimidating. You know, a great... to doot up by his throat and kills him in the first five minutes of the villain is like

Havi R. Bardem and No Country for Old Men. It's like you're at you're actually, he would actually be terrified to be in the room with that guy. Darth Vader, you're like, he uses, I find your lack of faith disturbance. He uses his mind to choke people. Well, I don't actually crush their larynxed like somebody who actually died of asphyxiation. Yeah, he has great powers, but I'm saying in the performance and in the writing, I just don't feel. James Earl Jones, highly overrated. I'm just saying things now. James Joel Jones was a great.

I saw him when he started out on stage. I don't hold him. I don't hold Darth Vader against him. You thought this kid is going place. Yeah, I did. I know, I actually did. I saw him in the Great White Hope. He was fed.

He stood next to me at the phone booths when my daughter was born because his son, I think it was his son was born. And the two deepest voices in New York were going, I have a daughter, I have a son. And there's Lauren Belbert. Fortunately, she doesn't have a boyfriend there this time. That's exciting news.

There's the Secretary of Energy. what's her face? Oh, what's her face? Oh, what's her face? Former Michigan governor, you'll remember her from the DNC in 2012, waving her arms like a nut job. Boy, that shot just there before was sort of like this textbook illustration of the fall of the Republican. Yeah. Man, oh, Jill.

Oh, the greatest doctor. So doctorate. And then there's, I got to say, the Republicans have run their Congress beautifully, I think. I think that would. And the nice thing is if you don't like this speaker, you can wait two minutes, you'll get another one. So as long as we're going to be depressed about everything, how about the fact that, like, they just booted a speaker for no reason, and they appointed a new speaker, and he cuts deals that look exactly like the old speaker.

He's the exact same guy. The exact same. But it's not even the guy. It's the incentive structure. When you have a one-vote majority, you're done. You can't do anything. That's all. Because I think he is, this speaker is more conservative.

On a gut level, no question. He's more conservative than Kevin was. But the idea that, like, Mike is way more conservative than Kevin in terms of governance. That's not the job. People keep mistaking. And this is true for all of America. American government, people keep mistaking the man for the job. And it's not the same thing. When you keep redefining the job and leave the incentive structures the same as they always were,

the same exact thing is going to happen. That's particularly true for Senate majority leader. When people say, oh, man, we'll get rid of McConnell and then we'll have somebody who's really go get him. First of all, can I explain to you that Mitch McConnell achieved more conservative victories during his tenure than any Republican legislator of my lifetime? You have a Republican majority on the Supreme Court because of Mitch McConnell. That is why. TV does not support institutional men. It supports individuals. It's, you know.

Here comes the president. Oh, my God. The door creaked up. It's like the fall of the House of Washington. That's right. The president is entering the House chamber, and we're going to take you live to the State of the Union. And we'll be back to let you know just how bad it was as soon as the president's people. Does he know where you?

Well, that was shit. My goodness. I think we can go home. That's the commentary. That was, it was honestly, the word. State Union address that's maybe ever been given, especially for the first 30 minutes, angry, slurring, starting with the most hyper-partisan issues he possibly could. The decision to, the very first thing you talk about is Ukraine was...

Not the state of our union? Right. He was using it only to get to call his fellow Americans equivalent to Vladimir Putin invading a sovereign country. That's what that was. I mean, that was his gateway into January 6th, because Demandumption. Democracy is a threat in Ukraine, and democracy is a threat here at home. That was literally the reason that he led with the Ukraine stuff was that he could call his fellow Americans akin to Vladimir Putin.

That's what that was. I mean, wow. This guy has always. Guys, I need something. I'm so glad that didn't work. Even the music is stopped. That's terrible. This guy has always been this guy.

He's always been an angry, mean, hateful, corrupt little stuff. son of a gun. And it's just like, and this is, you know, this may be the only state of the union that ever accomplished anything, which might be getting Donald Trump elected. If, if it accomplishes anything. Number one, nobody listened to the state of the union. The only part that anybody heard was the first 10 minutes, which is why he led with all the hyper-partisan stuff, because he figures this is his last chance. And he's figuring that what he can aim for here is energetic, passionate, right? You know what the headlines are going to be, right? Peppy. Yeah, he was fighting, feisty with the Republicans and the Republicans.

Republicans, of course, were probably helping him along with that by fighting with him because that way he can do his look at me. I'm a feisty fighter. I'm not an old geriatric daughter who feels like he's going to crap his pants any moment. But, you know, the fact is that the state of the Union, just to remind everybody, is provided for under the Constitution of the United States so that the president can from time to time inform the Congress of the latest developments inside the executive branch. That is the goal. Instead, he can even get to the usual phrase, you start with the State of the Union is strong or whatever. He didn't even get to that until like 12 minutes into the speech.

And the entire opening of the speech was about how his fellow Americans are terrible and evil and corrupt and vicious and insurrectionist and terrible. And particularly because of Ukraine. There's so many problems logically with the speech. I mean, first of all, he starts with the, there have been a lot of attacks on democracy. And then he leads with Ukraine and January 6th. He save all the Israel stuff, which is an attack on a democracy, by the way, by a terrorist group. He saves that for the end when he tries the Israelis for not being nice enough to the Palestinians

and talks about how we're... Did you guys know that we're going to build a pier? I'm excited. As an American taxpayer, I'm really excited to build, like, a pier. I can put it like a Ferris wheel, maybe like a merry-go-round on the pier in the Mediterranean off Gaza. He says we won't be putting American boots on the ground over there, which is weird, because I'm not sure... What are they going to do? Swim? How are they going to build this pier? Gaza and Scoob-divis are going to jump out into the water and take the stuff in?

Yeah, putting Americans, it seems like, directly into a foreign war zone is probably the smartest idea that you could do. I feel like... How could that go wrong? Probably it'll be amazing. I can't help but think, and I know this is comparing great things to small. After the Civil War, 700,000 Americans slaughtered by each other, Abraham Lincoln gets up and says, with charity toward all and malice toward none, you know, we're going to rebuild.

A couple of hundred duffices go into the Capitol. And he actually puts this forward as the worst thing since the Civil War and the kind of threat to democracy that Putin invading a country represents. The meanness of it, the smallness of it. And the one, remember when Trump gave his inaugural and all we heard was it's dark, it's dark, it's dark. That's right. Now you're going to hear. We heard one other thing.

Yeah. That's some weird shit. But now it's like he's feisty and energetic and he's just mean. That's right. Just a mean man. And anger, it's the angriest state of the union that's probably ever been given. And the symbolism, I mean, of course it doesn't matter because nobody's going to remember. But the symbolism of you begin with Ukraine.

He hits Ukraine, January 6th, abortion, IVF. My predecessor, my predecessor. Yeah, and my predecessor. And then he gets to, like, the size of chip bags. And then finally, right after chip bags, he gets to the border, which is the thing that's most, you know, one of the top issues for most Americans. Where he proceeds to blow the name of the victim that people are wearing the pin for, by the way. He calls Lincoln Riley.

It's supposed to Lincoln Riley. Whatever. It's not even her name. That doesn't matter. And then he starts jabbering by, like, and how many thousands have been killed? by illegals? So he's just downplaying the crime. Right. That's literally we'd yell back at the Congress when MTC, when Marjor

Taylor Green was pushing him to say the name, he says, he takes out the pin, he mispronounces the name. And then he says, and she was killed by an illegal, pissing off his entire left flank because you're not allowed to say the word illegal. You can't say it's the word illegal. And then he follows that up by saying, and how many thousands have been killed by illegals? The implication, of course, being that everybody is

overestimating the amount of crime from illegal immigrants. So that's like three screw ups in three sentences right there. But also, I think, I understand that the state of the union is forgotten and people don't watch it. But I think people are going to remember that screaming. I think they're going to remember the sound of that voice

just scolding everybody and yelling at everybody. Who the hell is he to do that? What has he accomplished? That he should be yelling at us for being unhappy that the price of food has gone up 35% since he took office. And the value of the dollar is lower than it's been since anyone but Carter

after this period of time. And he's screaming at us? It's like, go to hell, man. I totally agree. by the way. The screaming is going to be the takeaway. And it's really bad for him. Yeah. Because during the 2020 election, one of the things that he had going for him is that Donald Trump was the screaming. Yes, that's right. You remember during that debate that was terrible for Trump. It was the second debate. And Trump came out really aggressive. He came out super hot. And he was like talking over Biden.

Just kept jumping in talking over Biden. And finally Biden kind of turned to the camera and oh, shut up. And everybody, even people who were voting for Trump like me, well, I mean, Trump was being very loud. Loudness is irritating and annoying. The one who is being loud right now, he's out-louding Donald Trump. He's currently running the worst re-elect campaign we have ever seen. I mean, this is a truly awful re-elected campaign. And it may be because he is bound by the strictures of who he is. And what else, what's his skill set? What's left in the bag? Seriously, what's in the bag of tricks? It can't be his policy. His policies suck. It can't be his charm, because he's not charming at all. It certainly can't be his energy level because he's dying.

And so what we end up with is the old man raging against the dying of the light, literally. Like literally just looking out at the crowd and yelling at you for how long was that speech? It felt like about four years. My kids are graduating college right now. That was a, it actually was a shockingly long speech. There's a lot of talk going in that he might not be able to hold up long enough to give a normally, you know, terribly long. Also, my favorite part is where he said that he taught constitutional law for 12 years. I like that part. When did that happen?

I think that he, I think, I'm not joking. I think he's referring to Barack Obama and his time as a constitutional. Really? Lecturer. Lecturer. Legitimately, he's such a fabulous. Yeah. I think that he, and he, you know, he spent eight years of his life telling the fable of Barack Obama.

Right. I honestly think that he just lapsed into the wrong fable as his own biography. Wow. All those. During my time as a community organizer on the south side of Chicago. A young black man. Growing up in Hawaii. And remember how they counted every lie, every hyperbole that Trump used, they counted it as a lie and they had 3,000 lies and all this.

But Joe Biden is our tale teller in chief, as the New York Times put it. You know, it's okay because he's just telling tales. You know, they're meaningful. I will say that I personally enjoy the new trend now of shouting out the president of the state of union. I think it's great. It's not like British Parliament, right? Exactly. And also, if we're going to do this, like, let's drop the pageantry of pretending that we're all in the same side.

They all hate each other. So, like, fine. If we're going to do it, let's do it. Eggs. Like eggs, tomatoes. Yeah. They really go for it. Yeah.

Oh, yeah, for sure. Make it more amusing. Like a dunk tank. Like he says the wrong thing. Mike Johnson just hits the thing. The dunk tank opens. I will say that Mike Johnson, I think, stood up one time the entire speech. It was when he said that Hamas should surrender.

And that was pretty much it for the entire speech. Mike Johnson had a really unenviable task tonight, which is he had to keep a straight face. And behind him, you could see there were a lot of skeptical looks from Mike Johnson, who does have. a very memeable face, right, with the glasses and everything. And so him, like, giving the kind of side eye to Joe Biden will be in, I was sorry he didn't tear up the speech at the end, you know, like, let him come after him. Make it a paper airplane, like, just do some origami from you. The, uh, Kamala Harris being as absolutely smart, me and irritating as it's possible to be.

Without even opening her mouth. Without even opening her mouth. Just, just the, I was saying to Drew while we were watching that the, the, the, the, the noun rictus was coined. in ancient times to describe her smile. Like, that is a rictus, a frozen rickness upon her face. And it's just all the awfulness of American politics just telescoped into one hour and 20 minute segment right there. You know, lie after lie, the tax stuff.

He does it every year. I know. We're supposed to be at this point inured to the stupidity of people suggesting the rich don't pay their fair share. I'm never inured to it because I used to be not rich and now I'm rich. And I got to tell you, I pay a load of taxes, guys. Like a lot of taxes every year.

Fair share of what? Fair share of what programs? Well, define, also, define fair share. Yes. All I want. If there is such a thing as a share, which is fair, what is the size of that share? Right. And there's no fair share of garbage, you know?

There's no fair share. There's stuff we're paying for. It's not making life better. Is life better than it was three, four years ago? It's all lies also. He'll say things like, well, you know, the billionaires only pay 8.2% on their money. What do you mean on their money? Do you mean on their income?

Because if it's on their income, I promise you, they pay exactly what the federal prevailing income tax rate is. Right. If you mean their entire wealth base, yes, it's true, because you also do not pay a tax on the value of your house to the federal government, for example. That would be a wealth tax. We don't have those in this country. They're not legal on the federal level. It's just like the number of lies.

He's talking about, oh, my God. He says, my favorite is when he talks about lowering the deficit. I've lowered the deficit more than two. And then he's like, we cannot touch the retirement age. Anyone who touches Social Security will immediately be shot. It's like. But then you're not doing anything about the deficit. Yes.

But also he wants to lower inflation by paying for everybody's mortgage. The other thing that always really disturbs me is this thing about controlling the price of medicine. Yes. Because if you wanted to control the price of medicine, the thing to do would be to not allow them to sell it overseas for lower prices. Yes. Not to sell, not to change what it is. Well, we'd actually do a sanction in one country. Yes, because really what happens when that happens is medicines that you would have had, you don't get.

So nobody understands that they're getting less. So it's kind of sinister. It's like let people die so that we can lie to ourselves that we lowered the price of drugs. Right. But the other thing is you could lower the cost of health care in this country markedly if you just let the market do it. Yes, of course. Everybody always says, we have a free market health care system in this country and it's the highest prices in the world. We don't have a free market health care system in this country.

First of all, if you cross that border illegally, you can go to any. hospital in this country and get any treatment that we offer and not pay for any of it. Right. Secondly, most health care expenses are incurred in the last two years of life. And most people in the last two years of their life are on Medicare. Which means the majority of the health care that you will ever receive in your life is paid for by the federal government. That is not a free market system.

And when you look at things like that everybody has, like television sets, they come out, they're incredibly expensive, and then when they've sold them to the, they're the people who buy them at those prices, the prices drop. The price of a TV that was literally $10,000 15 years ago is now 600 bucks. You know, that's the way that's the capital. But that doesn't happen, but that doesn't happen in medicine because the government is the biggest customer. And the second biggest customer are insurance companies. And so you end up in this situation where there is almost no direct relationship between who we think the customer is, which is us, and the provider of the service, which is the drug company or the hospital.

more than one second to explain. And because it takes more than one second to explain, it's easier to just say, Right. Well, cap the price of horrorsunicles and now everything will be free. That's right. But, you know, the litany of lies, I'm with Matt. The litany of lies to me is almost, it's pretty much utterly secondary because we've all watched. I mean, I remember during the Obama years, fact checking. I was working at Breitbart at the time. And I remember fact checking, like, at length, all of Obama's speeches. And you would tell dozens of lies like this during the speech. That's not the new thing. The new thing that we're seeing right now is the utter demonization of half of the, the American public. That's right. And that is, it really is a new thing. It's something that... No, it started under Barack Obama, who called Republicans his enemy. Right. I mean, that's,

that's true. But I, honest to God, think that Joe Biden is going further than Obama did. Oh, much further. I mean, like, Obama was at least a little subtle about it. It was sinister. Right, right. Biden is not, he's like stupid people version of that. He's like, he's saying, he's just saying all the things out loud. And then he ends with something Orwellian, like, My unity agenda, I'm president for all of it. You literally just said, half of Americans are insurrectionists or akin to Russian invaders of Ukraine. Well, I mean, since you are funding the killing of Russian soldiers in Ukraine,

I don't know what that means for, you know, those of us who disagree with you domestically. I mean, that comparison doesn't sound so great. Got to be honest. And if we assume that the election was fairly won, which I actually, I've never seen it proven that it wasn't, it's only a few people who were so angry at Donald Trump were so opposed to Donald Trump that they moved over to the other side. Trump got more votes than any other president except Biden in the last election.

So he's actually saying that all those MAGA Republicans are the enemy. He's saying like a huge number of people. Well, you know, January 6th is an incredibly complicated topic, which makes it very difficult to ever discuss. Obviously, the capital compound is an enormous facility. obviously there were tens of thousands of people there. People on this side of the building don't know what's going on. On this side of the building, obviously there was a long period of time.

So there were people who were there and then left and people who came. So no one's experience of January 6 can really tell you what January 6 was. There were plenty of people who police just let them in the building and they walked through the building and walked out the other side. And there were people who broke glass and smashed through barricades and punched cops. I mean, many, many things are true about January 6th. And we, just as a people, I don't think this is just as Americans, I think it's as upright monkeys, you know, as human beings. We cannot handle the complexity and nuance of an event like January 6th,

which means we can't create a true narrative about it. We can only create these very, very hyperbolic political narratives. There are a lot of true narratives about it, but there's only one false narrative. And the false narrative is where I was going. Yeah. The false narrative is that America was in dire danger of our democracy being overthrown in January 6th. That is a lie. There is no way to say that that is true. It is not even remotely true. It is not even a smidgen of remotely true. At no point during that riot, I thought it was awful. I thought it was really a disgrace. At no point during that, did I think, oh my God, democracy in the United States is about to end. A military dictatorship is about to be declared with God, Emperor Trump, at the head of it, leading his way into the Senate and slaughtering his opponents. At no point that I think that was even remotely true. No, they took this issue that actually could have played well the Democrats, and they turned it into the Reichstag fire.

You know, it's like the small thing. It may not be a good thing to set the Reichstag on fire if you're a socialist. But still, that's no right reason to take everybody's rights away and to declare half the country as insurrectionists. That's exactly right. I mean, they flip on the language that he is constantly, and the Democrats are constantly doing, is truly an amazing thing, right? According to this speech, what are the safest we've ever been?

which is presumably why Kathy Hokel, the governor of New York, just unleashed 750 members of the National Guard to Guard the Subways, so people would stop shoving each other in front of the damn trains. Because things are going amazing. He then suggested that his plan on the border was more hawkish than the Republicans' plans on the border, despite the fact that obviously that's wildly untrue. I like when he suggested that freedom is under attack because true freedom is being able to kill babies. That portion of the speech was really solid. led to me when he just started ripping on the Supreme Court, which we know, by the way, is apparently that it's funny how that goes from being incredibly valuable and necessary to a danger to democracy back to being incredibly valuable and necessary depending on who's ripping the Supreme Court at the time.

So he's sitting there and he's yelling at the Supreme Court with the Supreme Court sitting right there in front of him. That's not, I mean, that's another, that feels pretty unprecedented to me. I mean, except when Biden has done it before, but usually historically Democrats will, you know, they'll make a few references to. I remember Obama did it and there was a justice. who actually shook his head and it was like a national scam. But I mean, with the abortion issue, they'll make a few references of reproductive freedom or whatever, reproductive freedom, of course, that ridiculous euphemism.

But Biden, I mean, he spent several minutes going after abortion in a really direct way. I mean, this is obviously the most radically pro-abortion president we've ever had. Meanwhile, he's, of course, sending his federal government after pro-life protesters and trying to put him in jail for 11 years. And we've never seen anything like that. I mean, we've never quite seen it. disturbing to watch people stand up and applaud for abortion. I'm sorry. I, you know, I cannot get that out of my head that this is now something that a vast number of people feel as a human right. And even if you would argue, oh, it's a terrible tragedy, but sometimes it has to happen,

I would disagree with you, but at least I would understand. That's at least an argument. Yes, yes. I was making this point on my show the other day, which is that Donald Trump's campaign is closer to Bill Clinton's 1996 campaign than Joe Biden's campaign. By far, it's not actually particularly close. Right? Donald, Bill Clinton ran on welfare reform, reduction in crime, balancing the budget. He ran on not gay marriage, because nobody's talking gay marriage in 1996. He certainly wasn't trying to trans the kids. He was, you know, like, and when it came to immigration, he wasn't an open borders president at that time, because it was already after the Reagan's amnesty. Like, it's, the length to which the, safe legal and rare was the, legal and rare, right? That was

where I was actually going. The fact that the Democratic Party moved in my lifetime from safe, legal, and rare to cheer your abortion, celebrate your abortion is totally insane. And that's why, again, I think that the thing he needs to do, he is under a fundamental misconception in this election cycle. It's the same misconception every Democrat's been under since 2012. If we get enough members of the base jazzed about voting for us will win. It didn't work in 2016.

It did work in 2020 because they changed literally all the rules. And then went to every single human in the United States eight times and picked up the ballot from their house and dumped it in a mailbox. That's right. And in 2024, I don't think it's going to win. And I don't think it's going to win specifically because it's wrong. The theory is wrong. He can get all the members of his base out. It is not enough humans. The thing he needs to be doing right now is appealing to moderates and independence. And you can only do that in two ways. With Trump, you can do it in terms of personality. Right. He can say, he's a crazy person and I'm sane. That was an insane speech and he

looked like a crazy, adled old asshole. And then you can also present a moderate policy agenda. And he He doesn't. He presents Bernie Sanders' policy agenda. So he goes zero for two on the two things he needs to do to reach out to the median voter. He's pushing the median voter over toward Donald Trump. The only thing Trump has to do is shut up. If Trump shuts up, he'll be president. That would be amazing. Trump is. And he's shutting up for two reasons. One, they literally don't allow him on any social media platform to express. By the way, it's been the greatest favor to him. If you're on Twitter right now, it'd be way worse for him. I wonder if he knows them. Number two, he is running a form of Joe Biden's 2020 campaign. I mean, Donald Trump is not really out there campaigning. He does the odd rally every now and then. But you're seeing less of Donald Trump in so far in this election campaign than probably any president or any candidate for the presidency in the modern era except for Joe Biden 2020. And he's not out there in a major way, which is good. Yes. And I mean, I guess people have pointed this out.

He's ahead in the polls, which he never was in the last. election. You know, we always attack the polls, but he was never ahead in the last election, and now he actually is. The great, hilarious thing about this election cycle right now, Donald Trump is running the best he has ever run against any candidate, 2016, 2020, any of them. He is currently running ahead of Joe Biden by a point or two in the real court politics polling average. He is led in, I believe, 24 of the last 31 polls. Joe Biden has not had a real clear politics polling average since mid-September at no point, literally no point during the 2020 race was Donald Trump polling ahead of Joe Biden. Literally no time. As soon as we got to the point

where Biden was the nominee, Biden led wire-to-wire in that election cycle. In the final result in real clear politics polling average, Joe Biden was up by seven and a half points. He ended up winning by four and a half points. If Donald Trump is up by two and a half points right now or two points, he's actually up by four. That's right. And because there are a bunch of people out there, independents who are telling pollsters, I don't know, I'm not so sure. And then when it comes right down to it, they're going to vote against Biden. They are. He is forcibly pushing moderates away from him. I was in a major, I can't say who it was for reasons that will become clear, but I was in a major New York media office this week, where the head of that office started talking about Trump in

such a way that one of the other people said, I should close the door. Because he was saying, you know, Trump really was a better president, and he saved this country in a lot of ways from some terrible things. This is a guy, I know, leftist down to his knees. In every election of my lifetime, the question of who wins the presidential election is determined by who it is that the election is a referendum on. Yes. And Donald Trump's enormous mistake in 2020 is that he could not subordinate his ego. He couldn't let it be a referendum on the left. It had to be a referendum on himself because he wanted to be at the center because that's for better and for worse. That's Donald Trump. Right now, if you are the president,

you sort of are de facto who it is a referendum on unless you change that narrative. What Biden was trying to do with the beginning of his speech tonight was make the election a referendum on Donald Trump. But I think he did it in such a tone deaf and angry way. Yeah, because he blamed the people. because he blamed the people. That's a great point. That it kept right now today, this election is still a referendum on Joe Biden. He didn't do anything to change that today. And because even when Trump makes this election about himself, he's making it about them because they're after him. And they're legitimately after him in such a way.

I mean, this is the guy is talking about unity while he gave instructions to his Justice Department to indict his major competitor. You know, the New York Times actually had an op-ed by this guy, Edsel, who's one of their big left-wing columnist, saying we can't win unless we convict them. Unbelievable. So we're going to take a few questions from our DailyWire Plus subscribers. If you want to get your question in, head over to dailywireplus.com. Be a member. Submit question, and we'll see what we can do about it. This first one is for everyone.

And the question is thus, when would you guys say was the last time we had an election that was truly about voting for the guy that you like, rather than voting against the guy that you don't like? to me, that was 2008 between McCain and Obama. Why? I do think, oh, 4. I think 2016 for a lot of four. I was going to say. I think 2016, for a lot of people, you know, they voted for Trump.

They voted for Trump. I feel like that was still a referendum on, maybe for some people. I mean, I think for the majority of people who voted for Trump, at least in the independent crowd, which shifted two to one for him, was voting against Hillary. Because it was the least popular. Yeah, I mean, people hate it. But I think it is fair to say 2008. the election of Barack Obama was an aspirational

moment for the country in 2008. Obviously, I didn't vote for Obama. I understood what he was, but we're deeply initiated in politics. I think for the average person in the country, they thought, elect a black man, what a wonderful thing for us to do as a nation. He speaks about unity, and he speaks eloquently about unity, and he speaks with

a kind of authority about unity, because he's from the group that ostensibly needs to be unified, that's not been part of of the culture, you know, in the way that that was perceived. The problem is that, you know, everybody says this is the most important of our election of our lifetime, starting to sound like Joe Biden. Everyone always says that every election is the most important election of our lifetime. And every election is very important and consequential. The most important election of our lifetime was 2012. Yep. It is not this election. It was 2012 because 2008 was an aspirational vote for

Barack Obama, but by 2012, Obama had made a cynical political calculation, to divide the country on race to secure re-election because Mitt Romney was popular and was an actual threat to him. I never liked Mitt Romney. Mitt Romney was popular and was a threat to Barack Obama. And he made that cynical calculation. He made it right out in the open

and we had one opportunity to reject the fundamental transformation and all of the chaos that's ensued ever since. You can say, well, Mitt Romney wouldn't have been a great president. Mitt Romney would have been a squishy president. And electing Mitt Romney, all that's true, but electing Mitt Romney would have been tacking back toward the traditional relationship between the parties, the traditional relationship between the people and the government, traditional American history.

Instead, we'd tacked far away from that. That's right. It wouldn't have been about Romney being present. That's correct. It would have been about rejecting the argument that Obama was making, which is that there is a victim, victimizer complex in the United States. That's correct. It was the head of the coalition of the oppressed rising up against the system. And when we miss that opportunity, everything else.

that's happened has happened as a result of missing that opportunity. So certainly voting for Obama in 2008 was because people liked the idea of Obama, but voting for Obama in 2012 was a cynical decision by Democrats, and everything has been a reaction since. That's my take. Yep. No, I think this one. Yep. Why do candidates make so many lofty promises when they know they can't actually deliver? How is that helpful for them? Do the majority of voters not look at these things realistically? I actually believe that voters are somewhat smarter than we give them credit for. TV has an investment, whatever you want to call it, the screen has an investment in making us think that what we care about is witty lines at debates and the way people look and the way

they present themselves. All those things are actually important. We do live in a showbiz nation. But people do understand that food is too expensive, that policies are not working, that some policies are actually a threat to their freedoms. People understand more. Let me put it this way. More people understand more of that than we give them credit for.

And so the promises, you know, they're showbiz. They're part of politics. They've been part of politics and democratic politics forever. As long as there have been people campaigning, they've made stupid promises. But I think it's partly a cynicism that actually the people don't deserve. People actually have some sense of what's going on, more sense of what's going on than we ever give them credit for. It's just because they have nothing else. They don't have actual policies that work.

And I would just say that there is a complete information overload. Obama really introduced this into our politics. It hadn't existed before that. They always say there were no scandals during his administration. He was scandal-free. The reality is he so overwhelmed us with scandalous behavior that you could never focus on making any one of the scandals last or stick or be meaningful. Also the press.

The press was completely subservient to him. But this sort of shotgun effect has been. been our national reality ever since Barack Obama. Politics comes at us so fast and so constantly now. No one will ever remember any of the promises that... I don't think we can blame Obama for the information overload. That is the story of our time. No, but he steered into it.

The minute that we, and this is just a historic argument, the minute that we expanded the inherent power of the federal government, this was the wage. because as soon as the power, when the power was small, you couldn't promise things that were completely undeliverable. If you promised that you were going to put a chicken in every pot in the United States, everybody would be like, hell, you don't have that kind of power. That's not a thing you can do.

Be like me arguing that for my income, I'm going to give each person in the United States a million dollars. Like, that's not possible. And everyone would know that's not possible. The minute that the government expanded its powers, what it did is two things. It made an empty promise to the American people that it could use those powers for exorbitant purposes.

And two, it did everything way more incompetent. competently. And that combination means that you get a spiral of promises, because what happens is that people look at the size of the government. They're like, why can't the government fix this problem in front of me? We spend $7 trillion a year. Why can't we fix this problem? A problem that the founders never would have thought the federal government should be in the first place. It turns out the federal government can't fix that problem because the federal government is crap at everything. So instead, the federal government, but if you're a congressperson, you can't make the argument will crap at everything because if you're crap at it will replace you. So instead what you do is you say, I will fix it. You put me in charge of the $7 trillion federal government and I'll fix that problem for you. you fail and you say, well, the reason that I failed is because I didn't have enough power guys.

Obviously, if I had more power, then I mean, that's Joe Biden on the border, right? He's obviously failing on purpose. But if you just give him more power, then he'll fix all your problems for you. And again, the only check that the American people had on that was the original constitutional structure that limited the inherent power of the government. As soon as it becomes a big grab bag of cash and power, then the person who promises to do the most for you and your friends with it is going to win. These are questions from our Daily Wire Plus subscribers.

They make it possible for us to bring you the show, so we try to give them horrible answers to this questions. What is your opinion on starting a boycott on CVS and Walgreens over the abortion pill? Matt? I mean, on an individual basis, if somebody decides they don't want to shop at a store like that for that reason, I think that's perfectly noble. I wouldn't be in favor of announcing, you know, a boycott on CVS and Walgreens, or even one of the other, certainly not both. because it will fail. And the thing we learned with Bud Light is that you can have a successful boycott until you have powerful people on the right who come along a year later and decide to undercut it for ridiculous reasons.

But you can't have a successful boycott, but you have to be very targeted and you have to be smart. You have to find a good target, a target. You have a leverage over and that you could conceivably, you could remove this from people's lives and it wouldn't be a huge inconvenience to them. the problem on the right for so many years, the reason why we couldn't successfully complete a boycott is because, you know, we're just,

it's like every company is woke, every company's doing stuff we don't like, and so we're just kind of firing randomly. And, you know, something like Walgreens and CVS. You're just not, people... Where are you going to get your medicine? Yeah, they need prescriptions. And so we can announce that and say,

we're not going to go there anymore. But... It's legal, I mean, and their pharmacies is kind of not quite the same thing as putting Dylan Mulvaney on the bloodline. Right. It's just an insult. It's just not, it's a noble thing. It's moral, but it's not a smart strategy to announce a boycott like that. I think that's right. Next question. I live in California and all of my friends are liberal, but they hate Joe Biden.

Of course, they hate Trump too. How can I show them that while Trump may not be ideal, he's definitely better than Biden? Oh, I haven't answered that. You absolutely can't. You can't do that. You're never going to convince people, left people in California. California left the left, that Trump is anything but a monster. Okay, but generally on the left, so here's what I'd encourage, so I agree with this, your liberal friends break down in two categories. The ones who will Soto Voce sort of say, oh, man, I would hate to vote for Trump, but if I, man, I might, right, those people, you can get those to vote for Trump and they probably will.

The people who are like, I hate Biden, but man, Trump is so much worse, he's a jerk, he's the worst person. Trump is Hitler. Right, Trump is Hitler. The Trump is Hitler people ain't going to vote for Trump. Just convince them not to vote at all. Yeah. Right.

I mean, that's the reality. And you don't have to convince them. You just be like, man, you're right. What a disheartening election? You know, like, I wouldn't be surprised if voter turnout is down this year. It turns out that a vote not for Joe Biden is a vote that doesn't account it for Joe Biden. You have to switch it over for Trump. It's worth half a vote if he doesn't vote for Biden.

For years. Just don't, I was going to say, don't try to trick them. No. By telling them that the elections on a different day. Yes, of course. If you tell them the elections on a different day, then Biden will throw you in prison for. Because it loves a monocry in free speech. You know, for years, many years, I've been telling my left-wing Jewish friends that all the anti-Semitism is on the left.

So I thought I would cash in on October 7th by saying, I told you so, will you change your vote now? Not one of them. Not one of them. They all say, yes, this is terrible, but it's not Joe Biden. He's a big supporter of Israel. And I keep saying he's going to stab Israel in the back. You know, everything he says, he is actually, he's not the greatest supporter, as he said, but he's been a fairly steady. To speak to the Jews, I would.

will say that, number one, I'm going to separate off my community. The Orthodox community is going to vote 197 percent for Donald Trump. That's just the reality. We did last election cycle. We did the election cycle before. It'll happen again in 2024. But with that said, that's actually not my experience. I've had a bunch of people who are liberal to kind of moderate left Jews who are quietly saying to me, like people I haven't talked to politically, just people I know for my life, who have called me up since October 7th and been like, I cannot vote for this party. This party has lost it. I can't, I can't vote for this party. Well, I believe that's happening.

Yes. I'm just telling you my experiences, I say these things to people, and it's like, it's like hitting a wall. It's like hitting a... You're also in New York. Well, that's true. That is true. Yeah, it is also the case that if you believe, as people have allowed themselves to believe, that Trump is Hitler, nothing is worse. Nothing can.

Doesn't matter what else happens. Right. And that's a... Which is funny, because, I mean, on the other side, you have people who literally are standing with people who like Hitler. So that's interesting. Yeah, it's great. Isn't it illegal to use the state of the union as a campaign speech? The Hatch Act doesn't apply to the president, but surely this is illegal.

Well, I mean, because the Hatch Act doesn't apply to the president, it's not. But would it be, if you were not the president? Yeah, I mean, that was a campaign speech. And he was obviously using the State of the Union as a campaign speech. Again, that's another thing. I think that the Americans who like the State of the Union, who are the ones who are most likely to be affected by the State of the Union, are not going to like this approach to the state of the union.

If you're like us, you and me, we hate the state union generally, or Matt, you and me and we're like happy to see eggs thrown at the president and all that. Like, you know, again, no laws to be violent. But when, you know, we're different. The people who are watching the state of the union because they want to see the pomp in circumstance, like the Oscars of presidential politics, and then they see the president roll on in there

with his Harley Davidson jacket on and be like, I hate all you is all. I'm not sure that's going to rub everybody the right way. Who do you anticipate Trump will choose for his VP and why? Himself. Amazing. Yeah, I kind of think some of the predictions are probably off because... Yeah.

Well, first of all, I don't think Trump wants a VP who he feels will get more attention than him or overshadow. That's why something like Vivek, I don't think that's going to happen. People saying Tucker, not a chance. Yeah, there's no chance. So it would have to be someone who he feels is politically advantageous, but won't overshadow him. And I'm not exactly sure. Tim Scott. That's what you know what I was going to say.

Yeah. Oh, Tim Scott. So he also, Trump likes to do this thing where he's like, I will cast this like a movie because he's a producer. So who looks like a vice president in that group? He's like, oh, it's a racially diverse United Colors of Benetton cabinet. And here's Tim Scott, who has kissed the ring and has been as subservient as I've made. him be, and he will stand beside me. I guess Christy Gnome, I could see. Maybe, although the personal life is dicey. I also, I don't think that Trump wants a woman. I actually don't think

he wants a woman, because I think that he's afraid that it will overshadow his campaign. So I think right now that Tim Scott is the obvious kind of frontrunner right now. That is my guess as well, which I find very dispiriting. I know who I think should be chief of staff. I think Jim Jordan should be chief of staff. Because personally, I think the chief of staff is going to be the most important person in the next administration. And he loves Trump.

He's been, you know, Trump's pal. He's incredibly smart. He knows how everything works. And I think that he could actually run a good government while Trump is doing whatever the hell Trump is going to be doing. Yeah. Well, there will be, if Trump is to serve

another four years as president, there will be at least five chiefs of staff. So getting Jim Jordan. Yeah, the first, I meant the first three months. Definitely could happen. Prop. Let's see if we have a, any more questions from our Daily Wire plus subscribers. Do you guys think that the VP pick

VP pick really matters? Nope. No, not at all. Nope, it's stupid. Makes zero difference. It only exists so when Joe Biden dies, Kamala Harris is president. Can we get some Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dreidel T-shirts in the W. Absolutely. Oh, come on. I will say that the facts, from what I've been told, the fax sweatshirt that I wear in that amazing rap video, that piece of high Western art, is one of the top selling items we have ever had in our e-commerce department, that it is, in fact, a monster smash hit. It was a big hit. I have to say that Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dradle may be one of my top five daily wire jokes, I think. I agree. I wish we made it up. We did not make it. We stole it. Who made it?

I think it was terrible memes. I think you're right. I think it was terrible memes. And it was... It's spectacular. It is real and it's spectacular. Yes. Can you please articulate why Trump's many character flaws to not disqualify a Christian to vote for him. I could tackle this one. Can we get a King David reference? An interesting thing happens in the Bible. You know, Paul kind of expounding on Jesus saying, render unto Caesar, what is Caesar?

Paul makes this point that you should obey the governing authorities and basically stay out of revolutionary politics. And I think that was a really pragmatic thing for Paul to say because the early church would have just been stamped out if it had taken any other position.

But I also think that there's theological truth to it as well. But something does happen in a republic. There wasn't a republic at the time that Paul was writing. The Roman Republic had been supplanted

by the Roman Empire and the Jews didn't live in a republic. Obviously, they were colonized by Imperial Rome. But in the In a republic, in a democratic republic, the government is comprised and given its power by the people. And in that sense, what Paul said, or what Christ said, render unto Caesar what is Caesar,

is not that that isn't still true. It's just that that relationship looks much different. You have a role in the government. And so it's not, I think, a fair New Testament position that you shouldn't be involved in the government when you live in a democratic republic. So to the extent that you do exist in a Democratic Republic, you have responsibilities. And one of those responsibilities is your vote. You don't always, in an electoral system, have the opportunity to vote for a great person. You very rarely have the opportunity to vote for a great person.

You don't always have the opportunity to vote for a particularly good person. Nevertheless, you do have a vote. And that vote does come with responsibility, and it is a kind of pay. power to impact the government. And so the choice before you in this election, I could not vote for Donald Trump in the primary, even though Ronda Santis has already suspended his campaign, I voted for him in the Tennessee primary on Super Tuesday. Why? Because a primary is a party preference election. And I do not prefer Donald Trump to represent. In a general election, however, it's not about my preference. Now we're down to a true binary. Who is going to be the leader of the country?

To whom will I confer what little piece of power I have in a Republican system to represent me and to represent the country? I don't have an option there for someone who I prefer, who actually has an opportunity where my vote can make a difference and actually help them be elected president. I saw this slightly differently in 2016. I thought there were a lot of unknowns around Trump that could be as bad as anything. I made a decision in 2016. 2020 was different because Trump had been president for four years, and I had seen what it was.

Certainly he did bring some of the bad things I was worried about. He brought some good things that I never thought in a million years that he would bring. He didn't bring, and this is the critically important point, he didn't bring the worst things that I feared in 2016 he might bring. And so in 2020, in 2020, he's a known quantity, and it became clear to me that even as a Christian who objects to many of the behaviors of Donald Trump,

when I'm actually looking at the policy distinctions between Donald Trump and his opponent, Joe Biden, I need to use whatever power I have not to endorse Trump, but to oppose the agenda of... It's also better to say that in 2016, both you and I had the luxury

of being in a state that absolutely did not matter. It wouldn't have mattered now. We were in California. If we'd been in Ohio, I probably would have voted for Trump. I think that's true. We would have made a different calculation. But you know, Anten and Scalia,

once said when he has asked what it is to be a good Christian judge. He says it's to be, he says it's to be a good judge. And I think that the same thing is true of being a good voter and I think a good Christian voter, that I'm not voting for the best Christian. That's not what I'm voting for. I'm voting for the best president. And it is it? It's pretty simple. The other guy wants to kill babies. Grand kids. Right. And destroy the border and he's hunting down pro-lifers and throwing them in prison. That's it. Like, what does there even think about?

That's right. Again, your vote doesn't say that Donald Trump is the person who you would prefer to be president out of all of the people. It says that Donald Trump is who you would prefer to be president in a race against Joe Biden. One of them will be. Do you guys think that we're realistically on the brink of World War III? And do you think Joe Biden being a weak leader is a main cause of that group? No. I don't think we're on the brink of World War III. No, I think that I could see a series of events that would lead to World War III. But you can almost always see that. And I think the system. The situation we were in is directly caused by his weakness and his, especially the chaos, the chaotic leaving of Afghanistan. But, you know, the brink of World War III is a little, that's very strong for this situation. Brink means like right here. Yeah, that's the brink. Well, okay, so I think that to be realistic, in order for there to be a World War III, you have to think about which powers would be involved in that World War.

Russia does not want to go to nuclear war with the West. That is not a thing that Russia is pursuing or interested in. Russia does not want to go to conventional war with the West. It would be the end of Russia. Oh, my God. They're getting destroyed by Ukraine, which is a second-rate military being armed with our old weaponry. I mean, so there's that. I mean, where else could World War III come from? Iran is not capable of fighting a World War III. If Iran actually launched serious assault on the United States, the United States would end that regime inside of two weeks. Like, really. China is capable of theoretically fighting with us, but China also does not want to do that.

They see themselves declining, but they don't have the strength to seriously challenge. What they would do is make regional power grabs in places like Taiwan. They don't want to get into like a real shooting war at the United States military. They're fighting a different kind of Cold War with America right now. An information, Cold War, a cybersecurity, Cold War, a trade Cold War. And it does resemble sort of the later stages of the Cold War in the sense that they have a collapsing demographic, a collapsing economy, and expanding military, industrial complex, and a containment policy. that's a problem. So, you know, that's not going to be a cold war. That'll be a bunch of regional

wars around its borders, if anything. But that said, we have more war in the world now than we have at any time during really my lifetime, because in enough areas of the world, you have these wars that are cropping up. Obviously, we had the war in Afghanistan, but that was like one place. We had the war in Iraq. That was one place, and we were directly involved. But in terms of, like, international conflagrations that could break out more broadly, we have two major ones right now, one in the center of Europe and one obviously in the Middle least. Both of those are Joe Biden's fault. Both of those are Joe Biden's fault. I mean, what's happening in Ukraine, Joe Biden literally said a month before the invasion of Ukraine,

that if basically Vladimir Putin just used the tip, he'd be fine. Right. He was like, if you just take part of Ukraine, then it'll probably be okay. And Putin read that and he goes, okay, well, what if I go like further than that? I mean, oops, oops. And so there was that. There was the fact that he had already pulled out of Afghanistan and obviously had no stomach for any serious long-term conflict. And communicated that very... Right. It was his belief that he could split Europe

based on European dependency on gas. And so he made a miscalculation, but that miscalculation was caused by Joe Biden's appearance of weakness. In the Middle East, the real fact that there's not Afghanistan, obviously, the real factor is re-engagement with Iran. The attempt to re-engage with Iran,

the attempt to re-center Israeli-Palestinian policy at the center of Middle Eastern policy is the single worst foreign policy mistake of my lifetime. You had a burgeoning peace deal between a wide variety of Sunni states in the Middle East and Israel. All it would have taken for Saudi to sign on to a full normalization day one is like this much. All Biden would have had to do is basically just pat MBS on the back. Normalization would have happened. Khamas is now trapped and Iran is contained. It was like this close. And if Trump had been reelected, there is zero doubt, I mean less than zero doubt that that absolute 100% that would

have happened. The first thing that Biden's data is he came and he wrecked everything. He came in and he delisted the Houthis, which are Saudi's enemies, as a terrorist organization. He started renegotiating using Robert Malley and Iranian cutout as his go-to guy. He started talking how Israel needed to make concessions to the Palestinian Authority and Hamas, both of which are Iranian funded enterprises at this point. And all of these things simultaneously led Iran to believe that if they push hard enough, they're going to be able to scuttle all peace in the Middle East while killing a bunch of Jews. And to be fair to them strategically, so far, that's been a success. I mean, strategically, by launching the war and forcing Israel, because what else are they

going to do, to then go in and wipe Hamas out, they've obviously put any peace deal on hold because all the domestic populations in places like Saudi Arabia are not going to be super happy. But beyond that, what they've really, the next move the Biden administration is making is even more insane. The idea that the United States is going to put its force and wait behind a Palestinian state in the aftermath of the Palestinian government fomenting the worst terror attack in my lifetime or my parents' lifetime is so bad-jured insane that all it's going to do is lead other terrorist groups in the Middle East and think, okay, I mean, push where there's much, man, go. I think we are the closest to a third world war that we have been in my lifetime with

the possible exception of the early days of the Reagan. administration. But I don't think that even compares. I think we're the closest we've been to a Third World War in my lifetime, and I still don't think we're all that close. Yeah. Can we get the beer a bit one more time? Oh, the button warrants. Thank you for, thank you for prouting me on that. I think it's a great bit. Thank you. Sound like a bunch of. It's a good. Classic.

I just lived to humor to you here, Matt. We have a clip from Michael Knowles. We were hoping he might be able to make it to a studio across from the Capitol, but we don't even have that clip. No, they literally said in my ear, we have a clip from Michael Knowles, if you want to play it. And then as soon as I started talking to you find people about that clip, they said, we don't have a clip. It actually is just a picture of Michael Knowles as it turns out. And it's not all that great. I mean, I won't say he looks amazing in this picture. It's on his best look. I've seen him look better. Not much better. Not much better. I mean, like, he's within margin of error, probably.

Michael, has Michael ever been happier than being at the state of the note? He pretended that he didn't want to be there when I saw him this morning. He wants to not do things. He totally wants to. Nobody's ever been happier. It's the swamp. Where else would he be? Michael is to going to the State of the Union as you are to directing films. I really don't, but a little I do.

Right? Well, yeah. I'll say one more thing about the Third World War, which is I do think, I do think that we're... I just like when you start sentences that way. I just think that we're at a fairly high likelihood of finding ourselves in a war. Like not a third world war. I think we're at a very high likelihood right now. With the Biden's announcement today, I think we're like five minutes away from the United States

having to shoot things at people in Gaza or at Chisbalah. You bring a bunch of ships right off the coast there. All it takes is one rogue Chisbala agent firing a rocket in American ship. And suddenly America's active in Lebanon. I mean, like, it's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard in my life. As somebody who does not want American boots on the ground. in the Gaza Strip. I would much prefer that we not put American boots on the ground two meters from the Gaza Strip.

Wait a minute. I saw an ex that you're an evil Jew who's trying to get Americans. Aside from that. Aside from that. You mean, you can't believe everything? Obviously, I mean, listen, in my status as a Mossad agent, I have to cover for my actual view. How are we looking on that Michael Moles clip? I don't think we're going to get it.

Jens, I wanted to come to live, but unfortunately the deep story. has conspired to shut down our signal here. But we're just right here in the Capitol. I'm with Congressman Ogles. Congressman, you had a better view than I did, and you were there with some of the hecklers and the rowdy crowd. So what do you think? Well, I was the first to speak to Joe Biden as he entered the chamber, and I pointed to my pen. I said, Lake and Riley, and it didn't even ring a bell to him. And when I pointed to my pen, he simply said, I like her pen. And then later in the speech, when he said her name, he actually pronounced it incorrectly. So the guy's clueless.

The lights were not on upstairs. You know, for Joe Biden, he had some energy. But, I mean, you could clearly tell that he wasn't with it. Michael Knowles and Congressman from our great state of Tennessee, Congressman Ogles, who just attended the president's speech, we've done all that we can do, fellas. I think that we have. We've done it. We've delivered the people, wonderful commentary.

So, guys, what do you think of my return of the Jedi? What's what? We'll look forward to seeing you on the next. Thank you for hanging out with it tonight. Good night.