The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1264 - This Could Be Serious Trouble For Trump

Episode Date: June 9, 2023

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On the very same day that a Republican lawmaker revealed allegations from a previously undisclosed FBI memo that Ukraine did, in fact, bribe Joe Biden, Joe himself, and his son Hunter, to the tune of $5 million each, the Biden-D-O-J announced that it would indict Donald Trump over his alleged mishandling of classified documents. We sometimes joke about these indictments. Oh, here they go again. Seems to me I've heard that song before. which radical DA is exploiting a porn star or a gossip columnist or whoever to drag Trump over bogus charges this time? We sometimes say, this will only help Trump's political chances. His numbers are going to go up. Yeah, sure. This is a little bit different. This isn't some two-bit prosecutor in New York. This is the federal government, Joe Biden's federal government, indicting Joe Biden's

political rival over an alleged crime that Trump not only could not have committed, because he couldn't have mishandled the classified documents, because as president, he had the right to declassify whatever he wanted, however he wanted to do it. But furthermore, it's over an alleged crime that Joe Biden himself committed. Joe Biden had classified documents strewn all over the place, unsecured in multiple states. And he committed. that crime when he did not have the power to declassify those documents at will. The DOJ is indicting Trump for having some outdated physical copies of presidential documents in his home under lock and key, all with the full knowledge of the government.

While Hillary Clinton stored classified contemporary information on an easily hackable home server and didn't get so much as a slap on the wrist, no Democratic. have gotten in trouble at all for that. Donald Trump could go to prison for the rest of his life. Now, even Joe Biden's DOJ is not so reckless and stupid as to go after Trump on the classified documents charge per se, since they know as well as anyone that Trump had the right to declassify. So instead, they're going after him for violating the espionage act. You know that. Super spy Donald Trump, agent from Moscow or whatever. The same nonsense. since they've been promoting for seven years, that has now been totally disproven time and time again.

They're going after him for, quote, gathering, transmitting, or losing information respecting the national defense. They're going after him for obstructing justice. Vague charges that are so obviously political that even my leftist doppelganger on MSNBC is admitting it. You have to wonder if the Justice Department is considering whether there is some political solution to this criminal problem, whether part of the issue. here is not just that Trump has committed crimes, but that Trump has committed crimes and plans on being back in the White House. Do they consider as part of a potential plea offer something that would prescribe him, proscribe him from running for office again? I don't know.

There it is. So maybe they'll make a deal. We won't throw you in prison for the rest of your life, but you just got to stop running for office. I don't care, especially. Not only do I not care how your poll numbers are, especially when your poll numbers get high. We're going to stop you from running. We're going to stop people from having the chance to vote for you. How's that sound?

Is that a good deal for this allegedly terrible crime? For all the pearl clutching over Trump's upending of norms and our sacred democracy, Trump pretty much just joked about it. Lock her up was a funny line against Hillary in a debate. It was not something that he ever seriously intended to do. When Democrats worried that locking up presidential candidates to say nothing of former presidents, would send us fully into Banana Republic territory. They were right.

That's why we didn't do it then. And that's exactly why they are doing it now. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles show. Welcome back to the show. This episode is brought to you by GenuCell skincare. Try GenuCel's most popular package for 70% off at genuCel.com slash knolls. That is genucile.com slash Knowles.

Really telling story of a gal who is working on only fans, and selling pictures of her body and everything, even though she could have been a lawyer, she has fancy degrees, good educational background, she decided to become a porn star, and her reasoning for it is quite bad, but it's reasoning that a lot of modern people take up. So we'll get to that in a second.

First, though, I don't want to let our corrupt establishment off the hook. Not even just here in the United States, even over in France. Did you hear about this attack yesterday? Horrific, horrific, horrific attack, where a migrant in France, a Middle Eastern migrant, starts wreaking havoc around a playground and starts stabbing little toddlers, cute little toddlers, two French, two tourists, I think one British, one Dutch. These are kids. I have a son who's the age of these kids right now, so it especially rings a cord here, which is these are sweet little innocent kid, two-year-old kids, and then this migrant goes over and just starts stabbing them. And I think all of them were in critical condition. I did. don't know how it's shaken out. I haven't, haven't seen an update yet. Absolutely horrific,

horrific crime. The story here is not even the horrific attack, which had become all too common. That's why they're not exactly newsworthy anymore. Ever since mass migration took over Europe, you're seeing a lot of this in countries that previously had relatively low crime, even the Scandinavian countries. Now, the story here is how this is being reported across the pond. This is what Sky News had to say about it. It seems to me that the French police, not the anti-terrorist investigators, have taken charge of the case. And this tells me that this is not a terrorist-driven case. It's mainly a criminal case.

My fear is that regardless of what, I mean, the investigation shows, the fact that the suspect is a Syrian refugee and an asylum seeker will likely be used. a great deal by the far right in France, given how, I mean, the cultural wars and the question of refugees. The first thing I would say, the most important thing is that really our hearts are with the victims and their families, given the fact that they are children, I mean, three years old. And finally, even though we don't have information, my first instinct tells me that this is really a mentally disturbed individual as opposed to being part of a terrorist organization like Al-Qaeda or the so-called Islamic State.

He says, my first reaction is to say how terrible this is for the little children. That wasn't his first reaction. You heard his first reaction. He said, my first reaction is that this is going to be seized upon by the far right to advance their anti-immigrant, anti-refugee. campaign. That's the real tragedy here. Oh yeah, the first thing that strikes me about this crime is how the Republicans are going to pounce. That's how we talk about it in America. The way they talk about it in Europe, they say, the far right is going to seize upon this to advance their anti-immigrant

agenda. Secondly, it's really sad that these little toddlers were stabbed by the refugee who had no business being in France, who received asylum up north, and then comes down to France because I don't know, I guess he likes the weather in France a little bit better. Then it's told, no, you got to go to the first country that you received asylum in. And then what's the next thing? He says, and by the way, I just want to know, this has nothing to do with ideology. This has nothing to do with his belief system. It's purely mental health. Maybe it is. I don't know. I have no idea what motivated this guy. But you just, you see this instinct. Anything that goes wrong always has to be the fault of the far right. The far right always has to be to blame.

far right by the way means anybody to the right of Barack Obama it has to be their fault it's either their fault for committing the crime which is unusual or it's their fault for seizing upon the crime to advance their terribly unjust agenda that's the first thing second thing is ideologies that the left embraces can never be at fault if a leftist commits a crime and his ideology is a part of that crime plays a role in it then it's just a mental health problem You saw this in the transgender shooting in Nashville. You saw this in the leftist shooting of the congressional baseball game. You see this every single time.

And then the third thing you see is the incidents are never about themselves, as far as the left is concerned. It's only about how they can achieve political advantage. And you especially see that now with the classified documents issue. The libs have been mishandling classified documents issue. documents forever with no right to do so whatsoever. But then the moment that a Republican that they don't like who seems popular, who seems like a threat to the system, not just a threat to the Democrats instead of the Republicans, but to the whole liberal system. When that guy crops up, all of a sudden, they go after him, they throw the book at him, even when he had every right to have those documents.

The battle we're seeing here is not just the left versus the right or the Republicans versus the Democrats or the conservatives versus the liberals or whatever. It's a broader coalition of the people who recognize that something's rotten about this system that has overtaken the West and the elites who run that system. We've got to talk about it. When you want to talk to your friends, you've got to check out Pure Talk. Right now, head on over to PureTalk.com slash Noles, a company that I am very proud to stand behind, a company that is proud to stand behind our show and the Daily Wire and our whole country is Pure Talk. Veteran owned with a 100% American workforce. They share our beliefs, our vision for the country. That is why Pure Talk

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seen in a very, very long time. And that's why the Libs hate him so much. That's why they hate him more than his rivals. But you see it on the left, too. Cornell West is a socialist professor. He was at Harvard for a while. Then he was at Princeton. And he's really left. I mean, he's really out there. He would produce a rap. He produced a rap album. He campaigned for Bernie Sanders. He is a radical. He's a radical leftist. He's announced that he's running for president on the People's Party platform. MSNBC is furious about it. It's not Fox News that's furious about it. Well, Fox News now, you know, not the most right-wing network. It's not the Daily Wire that's furious about Cornell West running. I welcome it. I think it's probably going to be a pretty funny campaign. I think it'll be entertaining. He'll probably raise some ideas that are at least more insightful, perspicacious than what Joe Biden is talking about.

No, it's the liberals that are upset that Cornell West is running. There's a piece here on the Joy Reid blog of MSNBC. Cornell West's leftist presidential bid has right-wing DNA. The people framing newly announced presidential candidate Cornell West as a leftist seem to be lazily sanitizing his recent history and voters dissoning. serve better. What are you to, Cornell West is an actual Marxist. He said, you can't, how are you going to say this guy is a right winger? This guy advocates abortion. He has an extreme view about abortion. He embraces socialist economic policies. He's attacking Joe Biden and the liberals from the left, and the liberals don't like that. So the liberals are trying to characterize him as a right winger,

but he's not a right wing. What does, this doesn't make any sense. What is his campaign platform. Here it is. Democracy creates disruption. It creates an eruption. It creates an interruption. Wide from below, the energies of everyday people is manifest. And I know there are precious people in your life who you care for. That's why it's important for you to be involved, important for you to participate. And I'm talking about hating anybody. We're talking about love We're talking about affirming. We're talking about empowering those who have been pushed to the margins. Because neither political party wants to tell the truth about Wall Street, about Ukraine, about the Pentagon, about big tech.

Oh, that's why they hate him. They don't hate him because he's a right winger. He is very much not a right winger. But he's anti-establishment. He's anti-establishment. He's anti-establishment. He's anti-liberal. This is hard for some conservatives to make sense of because for decades now, we've failed to distinguish between liberals and communists. And also for many decades now, we've defended liberalism. Some conservatives have said, oh, I'm a classical liberal. I identify as a liberal. The liberals are the true conservatives or whatever, which is not true. And so we've blurred the lines, in part because it's funny. It's funny when we call Joe Biden a communist or something, in part because the liberals and the communists have a fair bit in common

with one another. But there are distinct groups, and it's worth pointing out that the Marxists and the conservatives also have some things in common with one another, as opposed to liberalism. Politics is a little bit more complicated than just left versus right exactly. A friend of mine who's a Marxist, a very intelligent, educated guy, he thinks that Karl Marx would have been in the Tea Party. If Karl Marx lived in 2011, he would have been a member of the Tea Party. This is why Cornell West, who is extremely left-wing, is a big promoter of democracy. The liberals hate democracy. The liberals are always trying to undermine democracy. Whenever the people vote for something they don't like, they try to suppress the will of the people. That's very pro-liber,

but very anti-democratic. Cornell West just wrote a column in the Wall Street Journal with a conservative defending the classics, defending dissantis for defending the classics. Cornel West has read all of the classic works in the West. He's come to very leftist conclusions as a result of that. But he embraces the classics, the classical tradition. Unlike the liberals who are trying to suppress that, get the classics out of school and replace it with a bunch of modern nonsense and gay porn in the case of a lot of these school libraries. So the liberals hate him too. There's a good book out or it's about to come out. I just did a review of it in the American and conservative. It's by Patrick Deneen, who wrote why liberalism failed. And the new book is

called Regime Change. And he has a really helpful little chart in it where he points out four quadrants of politics. And on one axis, you have favors the people, doesn't favor the people. And on the other axis, you have views the people as revolutionary and views the people as conservative. And so you've got four versions of politics here. Classical liberalism, libertarianism say, progressive liberalism, conservatism, and Marxism. And each goes in a different quadrant. The classical liberals don't favor the people. They favor revolt. They favor rule by an elite. Same goes for the progressive liberals. They don't really favor the people. They favor rule. They favor rule. by the elite. But one of them thinks the people are revolutionary, the other thinks that the people

are a conservatizing force. The Marxists do favor, at least in theory, favor rule by the people. That's why you always hear power to the people, and we need a people's revolution. Workers of the world unite. They, at least in theory, favor rule by the people. They think the people are revolutionary. They're going to be the leaders of the revolution. Conservatives also favor rule by the people. They also, they think the people are generally right. But they think the people are not revolutionary, that people are a conservatizing force. That's why you see Edmund Burke, Benjamin, Israeli, many American conservatives who say, Alexei de Tocqueville, say, you know, that the people have this common sense. They've got this wisdom that slows down the crazy schemes of the ruling class.

Conservatives and Marxists have a fair bit in common, and that the liberal establishment, the liberal ruling class, is going to go after those left-wingers. That's why they went after Bernie so hard. That's why they're going after Cornell West now, even in MSNBC. And that's why they go after Trump, because Trump is not a classical liberal exactly. He's not a member of the ruling class. He's a populist. He does favor the people. He favors shaking things up and giving the people a greater say. That's why they're going after him so hard. Donald Trump doesn't fit neatly into the Republican box or the conservative movement box. That's what makes him so dangerous to them. Politics makes strange bedfellows. Think about how the conservatives tend now to agree with the

Feminists on pornography. Radical feminists were very anti-porn. The kind of liberal, squishy feminists were pro-porn, sex-positive. But the radical feminists were very anti-porn. They said it's misogynistic and exploitative. Conservatives agree with them. The classical liberals agree with the squishy feminist liberals. They say, oh, porn is good. Don't worry about porn. People have the right to porn or whatever. So that makes strange bedfellows. The thing about it on transgenderism, though it's the radical feminists who are probably most vociferously anti-trans. So the conservatives now make common cause with someone like J.K. Rowling, who's very to the left. Because we agree with each other on this topic.

We disagree with the liberal establishment. And on that topic, we just got a really disturbing bit of info about Ellen Page. You know, she's the actress who now goes by Elliott, who says that she was, I don't know, she was accosted in MAGA country holding her subway sandwich a year ago. She told a difficult to believe tale of transphobic. homophobic attacks in West Hollywood, which is the gayest neighborhood in America. And a lot of people didn't believe it. But where did she come up with what appears to be a fable? She's a troubled lady. She's got some trouble. In fact, she explains in an interview with the L.A. Times

about how she tried to kill herself. So one night, well, L.A. Times writes he. I'll change it to she, because Ellen Page is a woman. One night she tried to knock herself out, took her knuckles to her face, and pound it over and over until bruises formed. For days after, she sat in a lawn chair on the porch, ashamed her face sore. And then she heard a voice, you don't have to feel this way. It was a small voice, barely discernible, but it kept echoing in her head a way out. It was as if something in my brain turned around, recalls Page, now 36, the agonizing voice saying, no, you're not. No, you can't just switch and you can't just switched and became very gentle and loving. Oh, maybe I'm trans. Why don't I explore that? Within weeks, she had scheduled a Zoom consultation with a doctor to discuss

top surgery, meaning lopping her breasts off. The procedure was scheduled for November. Month later, she announced her fans on Instagram, who have known her since the release of Juneau, 13 years prior, that her name was now Elliot. What do you call it when you're in the midst of a breakdown, where you're harming yourself, where you're behaving very irrationally? And then you hear a voice in your head telling you that reality is different than it is. And that voice in your head then leads you to even more destructive and harmful behaviors. In our modern culture, we just call that, we either call that mental illness or in this case, what the liberal culture calls it is, your intuition, you're true, the vibes of the universe, telling you the truth, man.

In traditional culture, in Christian culture, there's another word for that. And if you want to hear a description of that, you can listen to my interview with The Exorcist Father Dan Rehill, which is on my YouTube channel and has over 3 million views now. When you want to improve your looks, you shouldn't deny reality. You should just embrace really good products

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They're not saying that's what happened here in Canada. I'm not saying that's not what happened either. We don't know. We'll see how that plays out in the courts. But very often, that is the case. And it's like the black people who, you know, hang nooses from trees and say that they were set burning crosses and say they're the victims of an anti-black haecrum. Why do they do that? Why does Jesse Smollett walk around downtown Chicago and say he was attacked by white supremacists who happened to be Nigerian, we later found out? They do it, one, because they're a little off, two, to get attention, and three, because they think that will accelerate social change to bring about the political changes that they want.

So they think that, okay, people aren't taking climate change seriously enough. Well, maybe if I burn down forests, then they'll start to take it seriously. People aren't taking racism seriously enough. Okay, well, maybe if I pretend that I was almost lynched in Chicago, maybe then they'll take it seriously enough. So they'll lie, they'll harm themselves, they'll harm the cause that they allegedly care about. But it's for a greater good. It's to accelerate that kind of change. And it's pretty bizarre. Now, speaking of Christianity, as we just were, Pat Robertson just died. Pat Robertson was the host of the 700 Club. He was quite aged, 93 years old. And he just kept broadcasting. So he'd just still be in that chair. He was still very sharp until the end.

end. I really like Pat Robertson. And I like him for a number of reasons. He and I had, you know, probably would have some theological differences, let's say, but he was basically on the right side of things. He was basically fighting for all the right stuff. He basically had all the right enemies. And Pat Robertson was a confounding figure in modern politics in that he helped me to see how corrupt our media and establishment are. Because this guy was portrayed as a complete loony-tune idiot by our mainstream establishment media. He was anything but, this is a very, very serious man. A lot of people don't know this.

He had a law degree from Yale, the top law school in the country. He worked on Wall Street. He was, by the standards of the modern world, he was extraordinarily successful, pretty much as successful as one can be. And then he had a conversion experience, gave up his wicked ways, and became a televangelial. became a presidential candidate. When you look at his interviews

as a presidential candidate back in 1988, is a very sober, serious person giving really detailed answers on domestic policy, foreign policy. Very serious guy. And he never shied away from his faith. And he never shied away from blunt language.

Pat Robertson, in a fundraising letter in 1992, formulated one of my absolute all-time favorite quotes in American politics. And I'm going to read it. I've memorized most of it, but I'm going to read it to get a word-perfect.

I cannot improve on what Pat Robertson said. He said, quote, The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. A little harsh, and yet, and yet. Show me the lie. Show me the lie. I don't see the lie anywhere. Speaking of weird sex stuff, the CIA has come out of the closet. The CIA, hides in closets and under beds and does all sort of secret spy stuff. Well, they've come out of the closet. CIA is pro pride. They tweet out CIA's 2023 theme for Pride Month is welcome.

Wellness equity, LGBTQ positive community openness. Me! Pride Month is an occasion for all of us at the agency to pay tribute to the rich history community and mission contributions of our LGBTQ positive officers hashtag pride. What's funny is CIA, for most of its history, would regularly try to ferret out homosexuals because they knew that they were a security risk because they could be blackmailed. But I guess now, one of the silver lining in the storm cloud of all this sexual revolution stuff is that it's hard to blackmail people because it's all out in the open. If a guy like Sam Brinton worked for the federal government, the former nuclear waste, czar. If he worked for the federal government in the past, and someone had a picture of him

wearing leather costumes, leading a guy around on a leash dressed up like a dog, wearing women's clothing, lipstick, whatever, they could have turned that guy. If the Soviets got that picture, they would have flipped him. He would have been a double agent. Oh, they would have gotten him, right? But now, Sam Brinton is publishing the photos himself. So there's no blackmail. It's really bizarre and degenerate. But that would be, I guess, the silver line. And so the CIA, they're all for it. The other thing in defense of the CIA here is that pride is obviously a massive sciop. It's a massive sciop intended to weaken our country that was regularly promoted by our enemies who encouraged all this kind of sexual deviancy. The Soviet Union had many

memoranda written about this, about how they were going to try to infiltrate the United States and promote this sexual deviancy because it would weaken the nation. You hear former KGB officers talking about this openly. And so, because, because of the United States, and so, because, Because pride is a massive sciop and because the job of the CIA is to run sciops, I guess there's a little bit of a congruency there. You'd hope that the CIA doesn't run sciops against America. That would be your hope, I guess. But anyway, there it is. CIA went gay. More like CIA gay, am I right? Am I right? Speaking of the weird sex stuff too, there's a really telling interview from an only fan's girl whose name eludes me or escapes me at the moment. But she was speaking to

Pierce Morgan on one of his TV shows. And what separates this OnlyFansgirl from other OnlyFansgirls is that she has a lot of academic credentials. She has a professional credential. She could have made a good amount of money as a lawyer. Instead, she chose to strip on camera. Here's why. I'm just curious about you being someone who embarked on a law career was obviously very bright, went to university, packed it in just for money to be effectively an online stripper. I mean, that's what you do, right? Way worse than an online stripper. What do you mean way worse?

Online strippers just, you know, naked. I do things that are way more grotesque than that. Pornography, anything. But it's all within what I want to do. And I absolutely love it. And I'm really good at it. You know, I could be a good lawyer, yes. But also, am I good at doing other things on video on camera?

How would you feel when you want to have kids yourself? Well, I mean, that's, I don't really want kids right now. But you will, how old are you? 25. Right. So you will do at some stage, probably, right? Maybe. When you do, you're going to be proud that you have your little ones and they look at you and go,

didn't you want to be a lawyer? Mummy, what happened? Yeah. And you go, yeah, but look at all my stuff. They can cry in a Ferrari. They can cry in a Ferrari. That's a good line. But think about what that line means.

It means this woman is willing to compromise. her children's well-being for money. Because they will cry. And I guess maybe they'll cry in a Ferrari. I doubt she's making Ferrari money. They'll probably cry in like a mid-grade Lexus. But she's saying, one, I'm willing to compromise my kid's well-being for money. And two, she's saying money is more important than a more metaphysical sense of well-being. Money is more important than integrity. Maybe not at every level, but enough money. At the high levels, when you're talking about Ferrari money, that is more important. It's like that old joke about a guy walks up to a girl at a bar and says, hey, would you sleep with me for $100? She says, absolutely not. Would you sleep with me for a million dollars? I got a million dollars to pay you right now to sleep with me.

She goes, oh, well, yeah, maybe. He goes, okay, how about $200? She says, what? What are you talking about? He goes, well, now I know what you are. Now we're just haggling about the price. That there's a difference not in degree here, but a difference in kind. Are you the sort of person who would sell your integrity for money, or are you not? I'm not really knocking this girl. The temptations here are extraordinarily high, and I'm sure that if you're very, very good at OnlyFans, you can make a lot of money. The vast majority of girls make essentially no money on this, and then sell out their image

and their integrity and their future marriages and... relationship with their children for nothing. They actually, like a lot of Faustian bargains, they actually will get, they won't even get the material benefit from it. But I see how some people could be really tempted to do this stuff in our modern culture, especially a modern culture that ignores the moral order. But it's really not a complicated question. There are some things that you should not be willing to do for any price.

In part, in no small part, because money isn't all that. Beyond a certain point, money doesn't really make you. you any happier until you can afford private air travel, and then it does make you happier in certain circumstances. But other than that, it doesn't really make you happier. The material things of this world will pass away. Possession will not make you happier. In fact, it'll probably just arouse your desires to get more material things. All the money in the world is not worth a sense of spiritual peace. Not even close. This is not soft, so, you know, process. This is not soft so, you know, proselytizing. It's just a fact because metaphysical things are more enduring.

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When the right says that we love America and the left does not, I think this needs to be re-evaluated. When the left says they love America, what they really mean is they love what America could be if their values were put in place. but when the right says they love America, it seems to amount to basically saying that they loved it when America defeated the Nazis, for example. But I'm looking around as a conservative in 2023, and I can't find anything to love about our nation broadly. We kill babies, we deny God, we trans the kids,

we open our borders to thieves and criminals and rapists and drug dealers, and we look the other way when it affects our neighbors. our nation seems evil from shore to shore. Why would I love America? Am I wrong in thinking this way, or should conservatives think long and hard about what patriotism is? Thanks, and I appreciate your response. Great question. I had a wonderful mother. Absolutely wonderful mother, just love her to death. So it's easy to love my mother. I have a wonderful father. It's very easy to love my father. Some people don't, though. Some people have deadbeat dads.

Some people have drug-addicted, neglectful mothers, vicious parents. Some people have bad parents, okay? And yet, all people are called upon to show some respect for their parents, and one hopes to love one's parents. This is filial piety, which is a good thing in itself, in the right, proper order we are called to respect and even to love our parents. if they're worthy of respect and lovable, all the better, but we have that obligation. When people just openly, constantly resent their parents and diss them all the time and whine and complain and blame them for everything, that's when they become big libs.

I hate you, dad. That's what all liberalism basically boils down to. Patriotism is an extension of filial piety. We owe our nation, our support and respect because it is our nation. And sometimes our nation resembles my loving, wonderful, great parents, and sometimes our nation resembles the heroin addict, neglectful, degenerate people. But we owe them a little bit of reverence and, at the very least, and love. And we owe it to them and to ourselves to help them to improve and to live a good and more flourishing life. In no small part, because we're part of it. We're in that family. It's our community. You can't really leave that.

Your family is your family. Your country is your country. And so we owe it to our country, but we owe it to ourselves also to love it. You can't really improve anybody if you hate that person. It's not going to work. Next question. Michael, big fan and fellow Catholic here. I wanted to ask about at one of your relatively recent speaking events, probably a couple of months ago,

you briefly touched on the topic of limbo during the Q&A section when somebody asked about whether or not unbaptized babies go to heaven. I was wondering if you could expound on that and what the Catholic Church has historically taught about limbo and what the Catholic Church currently teaches about limbo. And I had a second question, which was how does it feel to share a nickname with the former First Lady of the United States? Thanks, big Mike. Really good questions. I guess I'll take the first one first. Yes, someone asked me, some wise guy decided during while I was giving a speech about abortion. He said, hey, do babies go to heaven?

Do preborn babies go to heaven? And he expected me to just say yes. But I started to give the traditional Christian answer on it, which is, well, there's actually this concept called Limbo. And then he cut me off because he realized he wasn't getting the gotcha answer. He wanted to go, well, if they go to heaven, we should kill them all, right? Isn't that good? And it was like, well, that's not the answer. That was the problem.

So what is limbo? A lot of people are confused about this, including Catholics who don't even know what the church teaches anymore. Limbo is, there are two kinds of limbo, traditionally understood. There is the limbo of the just. And the limbo of the just is also referred to in the Bible as the bosom of Abraham. It's the place that souls go after death before the opening up of the, of the kingdom of heaven before the crucifixion and the resurrection and the redemption of mankind. So it's a kind of a hell, but it's not like the hell with the pitchforks where you're being

just brutally tortured for all of eternity. It's nice enough. Maybe you would compare it to the Greek understanding of the Elysian fields. It's kind of nice. May a little less nice than that, but you know, it's okay. And then Christ goes down and harrows hell. And, uh, You see this in the writing of St. Peter. You see this in writing of St. Paul. You see also the necessity for limbo in the Gospels, which is Christ goes in and brings the just souls who died before the crucifixion and the resurrection and brings them up to heaven to see the face of God.

Christ says that to have eternal life, to be with him in heaven, to see the very face of God. you need baptism. You need to be born of water and of blood, reborn. And this baptism washes away original sin. So what happens if you die before you've been baptized, especially in the case of like little unbaptized babies? The traditional teaching of the church is a little complicated in that St. Augustine took a view that was a little bit harsher, which is that they go to hell essentially. But it's not the worst kind of hell. It's not, you know, they're not at the very pit being in the most kind of physical and spiritual torture, but it's still hell. St. Thomas Aquinas took a little more lenient view, which is that the limbo of the infants,

the place that the infants go after death, is a place of perfect natural happiness, but not supernatural happiness, that in order to have the supernatural happiness of the vision of God himself, the beatific vision, that one must be baptized, that one must be redeemed and have his soul sealed in Christ. but but for babies who are not guilty of any sin other than the fallenness of human nature which we call original sin they they are still able to achieve perfect natural happiness so it's not like they're whining and complaining well babies always whining complain but it's not it's not that they're despairing in the sense of longing for this supernatural happiness that is unattainable for them they've got the perfect amount of happiness

that one is capable of naturally, but they lack the supernatural happiness that those who have been reborn into Christ can achieve. There's a lot more to say about limbo. I mean, we could go on for hours and hours about what church fathers and doctors of the church have said about limbo, but that's the basic idea.

And it is necessary in order to make sense of church teaching, which we get from our Lord himself in the Gospels, which is that to enter heaven, you've got to be baptized. and to be reborn in Christ. And so in order to make sense of that, limbo is a place that, one, we actually do see it in the scriptures, but two, we can also deduce it for a reason as great thinkers and theologians have done throughout history. Okay, next one.

Hey, Michael. This is a really quick message. Let's say hypothetically, I killed someone, because this didn't happen. This didn't happen. Let's say I killed someone, and it just matters. imagine, they, because you need to imagine, they are laying in front of me, I'm in the kitchen, and some people are just knocking at my door. So what can I do, what can I do to get rid of the body and don't, and not get caught? That's my question. It would be great if you, if you could

answer that before, before tomorrow, but anyway, yeah, yeah. So hypothetically, I guess if someone we're knocking at the door in this case, what you should do. If you want to avoid jail time, if you don't care about the morality of it, you just open the door, you tell them you're a Democrat. You tell them you're a Democrat. Tell them you're happy to help Joe Biden's re-election. You're able to do that. And then you'll get off without a hitch. And probably those coppers will help you get rid of the body themselves. Next question. Hey, Dirty Mike. Mr. Reality here. I wondered if you thought trans people who undergo surgery and claim they're happy with being trans

are experiencing a sort of Stockholm syndrome, not unlike someone who's been kidnapped. Obviously, there's some trans people who detransition, and there's others who insist that they're the happiest they've ever been after they've removed various body parts, and it just doesn't seem like

that would be something someone happy would do, but do you think they're all lying about being happy, or do you think some of them have a sort of Stockholm syndrome almost? Thanks. Yeah, probably the latter. I don't know that I'd call it exactly Stockholm Syndrome, but yeah, people who engage in destructive behaviors will very often find ways to justify those behaviors to themselves, even if they are conscious at some level of the ways in which it is harming and destroying them. This is because it's easier for people to change their mind than to change their behavior, and especially, in fairness to these people, if they've turned themselves into Unix, if they've sterilized themselves, if they've themselves osteoporosis if they've if they've completely or almost completely destroyed their bodies

it's very hard to grapple with that fact it's very hard to accept that and so it's much easier to say no this is actually good boy I'm so happy aren't I happy and sort of grit your teeth and bear it ultimately that that won't be good for them the only way out is through the only way out is to say gosh I made a big mistake everyone makes big mistakes at some point and say I made a big mistake there's no totally fixing this but in an ultimate ultimate sense sense, meaning to pursue the good, to pursue the true, to live my life in accordance with the reality. One can do that, but the first step is admitting that you have a problem, which a lot of people won't do. It's true of all sorts of advice. Before we go really quick, Brittany, would you marry Tim?

Brittany is the girlfriend of Tim, who is a member of the Crem de la Crem, a daily viewer of the show, along with his, I hope, soon to be fiancé Brittany. And so, Yeah, this is for Tim Blanchfield. He wrote in and asked, Hey, Michael, would you mind bringing up a potential marriage proposal for me to the woman I hope will be my wife, you know, love of my life, all that, you know, all that kind of schmaltzy stuff. So anyway, Brittany, just wondering if you would marry Tim. Okay, we've got much more chatting to do with one another in the member block. We've got the written mailbag to get to. We've got fake headline Friday.

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