The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1504 - Amazon Tribe Gets Addicted To Social Media And P**N

Episode Date: June 5, 2024

President Biden sort of tightens the border, a wicked judge sends an ailing, elderly, pro-life woman to prison, and a remote Amazon tribe gets corrupted by the internet.   Click here to join the memb...er exclusive portion of my show: https://bit.ly/4biDlri   Ep.1504   - - -   DailyWire+:   Get 25% off your DailyWire+ Membership here: https://bit.ly/4akO7wC   Leftist Tears Tumbler is BACK! Subscribe to get your FREE one today: https://bit.ly/4capKTB   Get your Yes or No game here: https://bit.ly/3X6tlKY   - - -    Today’s Sponsors:   ExpressVPN - Get 3 Months FREE of ExpressVPN: https://expressvpn.com/KNOWLES   Hallow - Download the Hallow app and get 3 months free at https://hallow.com/KNOWLES   - - -   Socials:   Follow on Twitter: https://bit.ly/3RwKpq6   Follow on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3BqZLXA   Follow on Facebook: https://bit.ly/3eEmwyg   Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3L273Ek Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:33 Joe Biden has finally caved to political pressure and agreed to restrict the invasion across our southern border. As NBC News is now reporting, quote, Joe Biden on Tuesday signed an executive order that will temporarily shut down asylum requests once the average number of daily encounters tops 2,500 between official ports of entry. according to a senior administration official. So still, not ideal. Twenty-five hundred. I guess twenty-five hundred is better than the five or six thousand illegal crossings that we're seeing every day now. So I guess that's a win, sort of. Really, though, the big win here for conservatives is not the slightly diminished yet still historic invasion of our country. The win here is Biden's
Starting point is 00:01:26 implicit admission that President Trump was right to urge Republicans to reject his stupid immigration bill back in February. Do you remember this? Politics moves so fast, things get memory holds so quickly. Do you remember back in February when the uniparty establishment tried to con cons conservatives into thinking that we needed a new sweeping immigration reform bill to shut down the invasion. That's what Biden told us. That's what the Democrats told us. That's what the Squishes and the GOP told us. And some of us, I hate to say, I told you so, pointed out that their argument didn't make sense. It was incoherent because the only reason we had the invasion in the first place is that Biden refused to enforce the laws that were already on the books. So if he
Starting point is 00:02:16 wasn't enforcing those laws, which already existed, there was no reason to believe that a new law would suddenly get him to turn away the migrants. The whole thing was a scam. which is why President Trump lobbied Congress to kill that bill. Well, it's hard to believe because I think it probably would mean the end of their career. This is a Democrat trap. It's a trap for Republicans that would be so stupid, so foolish to sign a bill like this, this bill can't be signed. And it's not only that, it's massive amounts of money going out of town, as we say,
Starting point is 00:02:49 going out of town, billions and billions and billions of dollars. And it's so bad on the border. I've never seen anything like it. Actually, it's one of the worst, one of the dumbest bills I've ever seen. It was a trap. It was a trap as Biden himself just admitted. Biden back then said, we need this bill to shut down the border. I can't shut down the border without this bill.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Then Trump said that's BS. And then Biden admitted, okay, yeah, you're right, it was BS. I can shut it down now. I'm not going to totally shut it down, but I'm going to curtail it by, say, 50%. So for those keeping score at home, President Trump once again vindicated. The conservatives, some of us in this studio and audience right now, once again vindicated. The libs and the squishes once again shown to be naive at best, more likely just dishonest.
Starting point is 00:03:41 I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles show. Welcome back to the show. Coming up in just a moment, we have an interview with a pro-life advocate who is being sent to prison for a very long time. for peacefully advocating the end of infanticide. Meanwhile, the rapists and the marauders and the murderers go free, but if you're a peaceful pro-lifer, you're going to get the book thrown at you. We will get into more of our corruption that we're seeing in the justice system.
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Starting point is 00:05:41 To get three months free, expressvv-N-com slash Knowles to learn more. I'm glad that the conservatives held the line on that bill. The squishes were pushing it so hard. They were falling for the Biden-Democrat line, hook line, and sinkery, even though it made no sense whatsoever. As though we didn't have laws against illegal immigration already. Biden's, oh, no, one more law that I can ignore. Then we can shed it down.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Senator John Kennedy, Senator Foghorn Leghorn himself, one of the most delightful figures in Washington, setting the record straight. It then said, well, we know there's a crisis at the board, but we don't have any authority to fix it. That didn't work either because the American people aren't sell deep stupid. So now he has decided to tell you that he has been born again. He has had an epiphany. is now a border hawk and that's what he wants you to report look you can cut the hypocrisy with a knife this is the most one of the most cynical things that i have ever seen a politician attempt to do five months before an election it's so obviously cynical because cynical meaning
Starting point is 00:07:04 without any regard for the truth. Biden was just arguing vociferously that they needed this legislation passed in order to do what he's now admitting he can do with the stroke of a pen. Furthermore, he was arguing that we need these poor, unwashed masses, these oppressed people
Starting point is 00:07:20 to come pour into our country. It makes our country so much better when we have virtually unlimited immigration not so long ago. Now we're being told, no, actually, we need to cut the immigration dramatically. They're still not going to cut it all that much, 2,500 a day. That's an insane number of people. But the argument and the supposed principle
Starting point is 00:07:41 changes every single day. Why? Because we're five months out from an election, as Senator Kennedy points out. And Biden knows that the migration issue is killing him. Because the vast majority of Americans want to drastically reduce the number of migrants who come into our country. Because over the last 60, 70 years, the movement of people into the United States has been the largest movement of people ever in recorded history. So he's going to change his argument today. He's going to change his argument tomorrow and he's going to change his argument the next day without any regard for the truth about how our government works, about what migration does for America
Starting point is 00:08:16 and about what the American people want. We are getting lots of moral victories. This is a moral victory. Yeah, we were right. I mean, we still have just a huge number of migrants pouring across our border even with the supposed restrictions. but we were proven right. This is a moral victory. That's great. I like a good moral victory. What we're not getting is lots of political victories. They are prosecuting, convicting, and probably
Starting point is 00:08:42 imprisoning our political leaders. They're certainly imprisoning people around our political leader, and they seem poised to do it to the former president and current Republican Party nominee, which is Trump's latest pithy, blunt fundraising and campaign appeal. The man is a political prisoner. I am the political prisoner of a failing nation, but I will soon be free on November 5th, the most important day in the history of our country, and we will together make America great again. Thank you. Simple. What was that? Ten seconds? That could be the entire campaign. He claims that he's a political prisoner. So I'm going to say, well, Mr. Trump, you're not in an orange jumpsuit yet. Yeah, sure. Even the fact that the liberal justice system was able to keep Donald Trump off the campaign trail and in a New York
Starting point is 00:09:37 courtroom for weeks. The fact that they can keep him focused on this, the fact that they can, it's backfiring in the sense that he's raising tens and tens of millions of dollars on this injustice and public opinion is swaying decisively in his direction. But the fact that they can keep him occupied with this nonsense when he should be campaigning for president makes him political prisoner already. But that's not even the most provocative phrase he uses in that pitch. The most provocative phrases, he says, I'm a political prisoner of a failing nation, a failing nation. And we all feel that our nation is failing. And it's not just failing because we have a crummy president right now, or a feckless Congress, or corrupt bureaucrats. That's part of it.
Starting point is 00:10:23 But I think we feel that America is failing on a deeper level. Yeah, we have bad economic policies, yeah, the president's fumbling foreign policy. At a deeper level, okay, yeah, the border isn't secure. We don't, if a nation doesn't have a border, a nation isn't a nation, we've got this invasion. But then at a deeper level still, the fact that our nation for the first time ever in 234 years is prosecuting, a former president, a current major party nominee, is the symptom that we are failing at a central, in an essential level. So what do we do about that?
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Starting point is 00:11:35 Learn more at brooksrunning.com. That is not going to be fixed simply by replacing the president or replacing some senator or replacing some member of Congress. The institutions of the government are failing. Don't shoot the messenger here. I'm sure the libs are going to say Michael Knowles and the conservatives stoking more fears. about the fragility of our institutions. Well, they probably don't know words that are that big. But they'll say like, Michael Nulls say dumb, bad thing, or whatever.
Starting point is 00:12:09 But it's not just the conservatives who are doing this. The liberals have expressed their disillusionment with and distrust in our institutions for decades at this point. The 2000 election, Bush v. Gore. The liberals, many, many liberals, refused to accept the results of that election. Stacey Abrams, they pretend that. she's still the governor of Georgia, even though she lost that race. Hillary Clinton, they pretend that she really secretly won the 2016 election. They've been doing this for years, to a far greater extent, and for much longer than the Republicans have. And the Republicans now
Starting point is 00:12:45 don't really have faith in our institutions because all the election rules, not all of them, but many of them were changed in the lead up to 2020 to advantage Democrats, in contravention, not only of laws, but of state constitutions even in the case of, Pennsylvania, and because our justice system now has been proven to have illegally spied on President Trump's campaign and then to have illegally undermined his administration, and now to be prosecuting him in a total break with American political tradition, and without any real crime having been committed. The other day, I was asked to go on the Pears Morgan Show. Great, great, very fun clip. You can catch it over at Pears' YouTube channel. And I went on,
Starting point is 00:13:29 and it was a panel to debate the Trump prosecution and the conviction. And I asked a simple question to the liberal who was brought on television to defend this supposedly totally above board verdict. And I said, hey, simple question, what crime did Trump commit? And she couldn't say. And then actually a Democrat lawyer who is a Democrat, hates Trump, but he's honest and he's a lawyer. He said, yeah, the prosecution doesn't really have much here. So we all know it. Okay, anyone with, you know, even a modicum of common sense and familiarity with the law and our political tradition, they know this is failing.
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Starting point is 00:16:15 She went there and she prayed and she peacefully demonstrated at the infanticide factory. and for that, a judge, Colleen Colar Cotelli, has sentenced this woman to two years in prison. Now, bad enough, 75-year-old woman in poor health, two years in prison could well be a life sentence. Then, Colar Cotelli, when this poor victim's mother, or this poor victim's husband, rather, begged for mercy and said, hey, my wife wife might die in prison here, die alone in prisons for the horrific crime of defending unborn babies. The judge decided to taunt the woman and her husband. The judge said that she hoped that Harlow would, quote, make an effort to remain alive. Then the cherry on top, the judge said she hoped that Harlow would make an effort to remain alive because trying to remain alive is, quote,
Starting point is 00:17:22 a tenet of her religion. So this woman, I assume as Catholic, I could be some kind of broader type of Christian, but I assume Catholic. And it's true. Despair is a sin, suicide as a sin, giving up as a sin, sure. So this judge, this very, very evil judge says, hey, you, you woman who prayed at an abortion mill while people were murdering babies. I'm going to sentence you to die in prison. And that'll be fine, though, won't it? Because, you know, you can just pray about it. You're a Catholic. It's okay. Kiss it up. It'll be sanctifying. That's what you get Catholics. That's what you get Christians. That's what you get for praying to stop the murder of a million babies a year. You're going to die in prison. If you murder babies in America, you will get a parade. You get a big march, a woman's march, and you'll be called
Starting point is 00:18:25 brave, and you will be lauded, and you will be celebrated. If you object to murdering babies, you will die in prison. And if you object to murdering babies on religious grounds, because God doesn't look favorably upon infanticide, then you'll be mocked and taunted. while you're sent to die in prison. This is real dark stuff. It's like that classic comedic scene, you know, the two Nazis, you know, Mitchell and Webb, right, the two Nazis talking to each other. And one of them says, excuse me, mate, are we the baddies?
Starting point is 00:19:08 Are we the baddies? This is real bad stuff. This woman, Judge Colleen Kolark-Kotelli, is enthralled to real spiritual darkness. It probably would never occur to most people, one, to send a woman to die in prison for praying to stop infanticide. But then to taunt that woman and say, yeah, I hope you stay alive. Yeah, because that's what you Christians are supposed to do, aren't you? Good luck, Christians. Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. Get your orange jumpsuit on. That is really demonic stuff.
Starting point is 00:19:47 so one should pray, obviously, for the conversion of Judge Kolar Koteli, but also one needs to take very seriously Trump's declaration that he's a political prisoner and a failing nation. People sometimes say that Trump is hyperbolic, he's provocative, I don't think he exaggerated one little bit. I don't know how anyone could. We have an intentional invasion across our borders that the president, lies and says he can't do anything to control and then he pretends he says he pretends that he'll do something about it and admits that he can do something about it if he wanted to meanwhile he and his party are prosecuting his chief rival trying to throw him in prison before the election meanwhile
Starting point is 00:20:38 anyone who objects even to the most heinous acts of this corrupt regime the wholesale slaughter of innocent little babies gets thrown in prison and mocked specifically for being Christian that's real bad guys and I don't I don't want to sound like I'm a tankie here or something I don't want to sound like I'm just you know throwing stones at my own country I love my country I'm a patriot I suspect you you all are too but you're not going to fix a problem if you don't acknowledge that the problem exists the state of America is as bad as I have ever seen it and I was not alive in the late 1960s when we were assassinating presidential candidates but we seem to be approaching levels of civil unrest and perfidy and just ugliness that are rare in history.
Starting point is 00:21:37 That means that this election is going to be consequential. Whatever happens, the election is going to be consequential. We are in uncharted territory. When Trump sends out a fundraise email saying that his conviction is crossing the Rubicon, yeah, sometimes comparisons to ancient Rome are overused, but how do you go back? How do you go back? What's the path back? It's not just going to be even electing one guy. That is the beginning of the beginning of the beginning. The rod runs so deep. You might have forgotten that Father's Day is around the corner. And as such, you might have no idea what to get him. Don't worry. I've got you covered. Treat him to a box of Mayflower Cigars. Right now, use promo code Dad 10 at Mayflower Cigars.com. Get 10% off your order. You must be 21 years or older to order. Some exclusions apply. Now, with no further ado, back to the show. And ladies and jents, on that delightful note, let's talk about something crucial. Let's talk about what we've been talking about, our justice system.
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Starting point is 00:23:12 Do not miss out. Join us today as we fight the libs and build. the future. Speaking of alternative forms of government, this is an unfortunate story. It's kind of funny, though it's also kind of sad. There's a remote tribe in the Amazon jungle. They have been connected to the internet now. This is thanks to Elon Musk's Starlink, and it's thanks directly to an activist who hooked up this tribe with Starlink. And immediately the tribe got hooked on social media and porn. and everything in their tribe fell apart. According to the Post, this 2,000-member tribe, the Marubo tribe, lives along the Etoui River,
Starting point is 00:23:56 deep in the Amazon jungle. They were connected to the web last September when 20 antennas were donated to them by an American entrepreneur. And now the elders are alarmed because the youths and just the people broadly are hooked on social media platforms and pornography. When it arrived, according to Tsaynamamah, Sainama Marubo, an elder there, when it arrived, everyone was happy. Now things have gotten worse. Young people have gotten lazy because of the internet.
Starting point is 00:24:29 They're learning the ways of white people. I want to put a pause here. This tribe elder is right, but this tribe elder is not telling the whole story. This is a problem. The tribe is learning the ways of white people, and now they're all hooked on porn and they're lazy. and they're decadent.
Starting point is 00:24:46 The tribe is learning the worst ways of white people. White people have a lot to offer. White people have done a lot of great stuff throughout history. White people have discovered, like, all the stuff in the modern world. White people have given us great music, great art, great culture. White people have largely spread the religion, the true religion, the religion that animated our civilization. Not just white people that spread it, of course, but white people have done it. great job as missionaries around the world, you know, bringing spiritual light to all the corners of
Starting point is 00:25:20 the world. The white people have done a lot of great stuff. White people have also done some bad stuff, okay? It's a fallen world. Everyone has virtues and vices. And unfortunately here, what we're seeing at this tribe in the Amazon is that the white people are not bringing all the good stuff, all the really great music and the great art and the religion. Where are the missionaries? No, no, no, no. White people are bringing the absolute worst stuff about white culture, which is liberalism, modern individualism, the internet for the purpose of what, of porn and self-adulation through social media. That's the problem. The problem is not the white people. The problem is not even cultural dialogue and going out and reaching. It's that we used to bring people Christianity. Now we bring them pornography. That's bad. Yeah, no wonder white people are getting a bad rap. We used to evangelize. Now we proselytize progressivism. That's it. That's the bad version of white people. But goes on. Here's the key, I think, to this story. The Marubo, unlike other pagan tribes, the Marubo are a chaste tribe. They frown upon kissing in public even. Now, all these standards of decorum have been upended. The young Marubo men have been sharing the porn videos to each other. They have demonstrated already more aggressive sexual behavior than the Marubo had seen before. We're worried, says one tribal leader.
Starting point is 00:26:51 We're worried young people are going to want to try it. All of these decadent and disgusting things that they've been seeing on screen. Another father, Kaipa Marubo, is worried about his kids playing first-person shooter video games, saying, I'm worried that they're suddenly going to want to mimic them. And so this is a vindication of all the scolds in the... the 90s. You know all the scolds that got made fun of and were called hysterical in the 90s for warning that violent video games were going to encourage acts of violence and all the libertines said, no, that never happens, man. Come on, quit blaming violent video games for increasingly
Starting point is 00:27:29 violent behavior. Stop blaming all the porn for all of the increasingly weird sex stuff that people are engaging in in the real physical world. The Marubo understand human nature a lot better than those white liberals. Because what the Marubo recognized is that human beings are mimetic. We imitate each other. That's how we cultivate our personalities. That's how we learn how to be human. You imitate your mommy and daddy, and then you imitate your family, your extended family,
Starting point is 00:28:00 your older brothers, then you imitate your friends and family in your community. This is why there's a common expression that you are the average of the five people you spend the most time with. Because we're memetic. This is the theory advanced by Renee Gerard, who I've mentioned on this show before, the French sociologist who has this thesis, and obviously true thesis as far as I'm concerned, that so much of our character, not only what we do and how we talk, but even our desires are products of imitating the desires of others. You want the Rolex watch, not because you know anything about watchmaking, but because people who you admire and respect and want to be like, like the Rolex watch. And so you mimic even their desires. That's true. The Marubo recognized this.
Starting point is 00:28:45 So if you have a culture, not to sound like 90s church lady, but if you want a culture that's not violent and crazed and full of lust and, you know, decadent sex stuff, then you got to tamp down the porn and the violent video games. It's just, that's just a fact. It shouldn't even be that controversial. If the Marubo can get it, the white libs in America should get it too. Speaking of natural reactions, and violence and sex stuff, actually, there's a Spanish father who has gone viral. This guy's name is Alberto Pugilato. Alberto showed up to a comedy show and started beating the daylights out of a comedian named Jaime Caravaca. Here's the video.
Starting point is 00:29:33 You know, get over it. Get over it says the comedian. He said, hey, there's no need. Hey, hey, hey, hey, you got to go back. Then the dad turns to the man. It looks like security guards who are walking up to him. He says, hold on. He's talking to the comedian.
Starting point is 00:29:46 He says, what were you saying? You said my son was going to do it, disgusting sex act. When he's three months old, garbage. Now what? Tell me. The comedian cowering in the back. Tell that to my face right now. Tell me right now.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Then he says to the guy looks like a bodyguard. He says, hey, excuse me, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, and I beg your pardon. I beg your pardon, but I'm a father. they're defending his children. I love the guys in the audience and it looks like the bodyguard. He says, okay, yeah, all right, you're cooking. You can cook. He says, this man made sexualizing comments about my three-month-old son. That has consequences, doesn't it? And he gets one last smack at him before he leaves. What's the backstory here? Backstory is this father is a right-wing activist and commentator,
Starting point is 00:30:34 and he posted a picture with his kid, three-month-old kid, said pride and joy. And then this degenerate leftist comedian, quote unquote, said nothing and no one can prevent the possibility that he is gay. And when he grows up and he gets tired of, and then he starts describing particularly gross sex acts, that he will, you know, go on and continue to live that lifestyle. I'm cleaning up some of the language here. And so this father, he says, you're going to regret those comments. And he shows up and he gives him a stern talking to in a couple smacks. The free speech, absoluteists, which was the position that the conservatives, quote, unquote, had adopted five, six years ago, they would say, well, no, you could never ever get angry at anyone for anything they say,
Starting point is 00:31:23 and you should never try to shut down speech. And what that comedian said is free speech. And certainly a father shouldn't give a smack to a guy who says that about his three-month-old son. My take on it, it's very good to control your emotions. Vigilante justice is very bad. We leave that to we leave justice to the justice system. I don't think a reasonable jury, I don't think any member of a reasonable jury if that Spanish father were brought up on charges, not one member would vote to convict if they were reasonable. I think society would be a little bit better if people were a little bit more polite, if people recognized that there are standards and taboos, and you don't say certain things. And if a so-called comedian made those kind of comments about my little kids,
Starting point is 00:32:14 I'd probably be pretty inclined to have the same reaction. And before the Libs accused me of defending violence here, I'm observing a fact of political society and a fact of speech. Because this already exists. If you in America today go out and say, for instance, transgenderism is wrong and it's wrong for everyone, and so for the good of society, especially for the good of the poor people who've fallen prey to this confusion, the ideology must be eradicated from public life entirely. If you were just hypothetically to say something like that, people would try to kill you. Leftists would actively, they would threaten to kill you and they would try to kill you. Okay, take my word for it, folks. And that would happen if you're a public person. That would happen if you're a private person. That would happen if you set it at your office or you school or at a cafe in the middle of nowhere because societies have standards and taboos norms and they enforce those. Just naturally, that always happens. The problem with our society today is that this natural phenomenon still exists. It's just that if you go out and you make disgusting, sick comments,
Starting point is 00:33:34 that probably merit a hard drive check for that so-called comedian about a three-month-old kid, oh, you'll be protected. The courts will be on your side. But if you go out there and you say, hey, men and women are different, actually, the courts will be against you. They'll try to prosecute you if they can. But even if we're not that far along in America yet, if libs harass you, they threaten you, they attack you, they will be let off the hook most of the time. the problem isn't that we we don't actually have taboos that we enforce here, it's that we protect all the most disgusting and depraved things, rather than what we used to do, which was protect good things.
Starting point is 00:34:19 And what we used to do, which was have a culture that exalted honor and virtue. Now it's totally the opposite. A lot of lessons to be taken out of Spain. Speaking of weird sex stuff, there's a guy named Scott Weiner. Scott Weiner is a state senator in California. Scott Weiner wants to replace Nancy Pelosi. Nancy Pelosi's been in Congress since I believe the Articles of Confederation. She has been the Democrat leader there since at least the time of President Cleveland,
Starting point is 00:34:51 maybe further back to President Garfield. And so Democrats are recognizing, you know, old father time comes for a Saul and at a certain point she's going to leave Congress. So this guy, Scott Weiner, wants to replace her. If you've heard that name Scott Weiner before, you might have heard it on this show. It's because Scott Weiner is the state senator best known for vociferously advocating that there be a reduction in punishments for grown men who sexually abuse underage boys. That was a big campaign for Scott Weiner. is he said the law in California is too harsh on grown men who sexually abuse underage boys,
Starting point is 00:35:36 and we need to make sure that those men receive lighter punishments. I am not joking. Look it up. That guy wants to replace Nancy Pelosi, which is a reminder in politics. I don't particularly care for Nancy Pelosi. I think she's pretty terrible. But things can always get worse. and in a political order that is failing to the degree that ours is failing,
Starting point is 00:36:02 you can bet on things getting worse. You might think Biden is bad. Just wait until you see the libs who follow Biden. You think that Pelosi is bad. Just wait until you see that. Well, you just saw that one of the lips who's trying to replace Pelosi. That's not a defense of Pelosi or Biden. They're really awful too, and we got to beat them.
Starting point is 00:36:21 But if you just look at the trajectory of the American political order, it's going in a bad direction. It is a vindication, not only of Trump and the conservatives and all that, it's a vindication of that old line that I learned from a priest friend of mine about the difference between a conservative optimist and a conservative pessimist. The conservative pessimist says things can't get any worse. The conservative optimist says, oh, yes, they can. My favorite comment yesterday is from Beatrix Kiddo Five, who says, Jim Jones, I got 900 people to drink the Kool-Aid. Dr. Fauci. Amateur. Oh, you're a huge amateur.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Okay. Speaking of injustice and death, Denny Green is a Virginia-based minister. He was arrested in early March of 2021, three years ago, at a Mount Juliet abortion mill right here in my state of Tennessee. And he was there singing and praying in the whole way outside. the doors of this abortion mill and for this grave crime he's facing 10 and a half years in prison Danny thank you for coming on the show hi Michael thank you what happened well myself along with a
Starting point is 00:37:42 number of other Christians met in Mount Juliet to try to save babies one day at that particular parafam abortion clinic we gathered in the hallway outside of the clinic prayed and saying as some of the ladies were reaching out to women who were coming to seek services of the abortion clinic with hopes of changing their minds, offering them help so they wouldn't have to go through with that. And after about two hours, we were arrested. Everything was peaceful. We worked with the police. We walked out. We didn't resist. And ultimately, we were charged with violating the FACE Act, which was enacted during the Clinton administration in 94, to put it, basically to put to death any protests, as they would say, like this. And that wasn't enough for Mayor Garland and his crew. They looked back to the 1800s and found a law that was enacted to protect African Americans against discrimination and having their civil rights violated. And they charged us with violation of
Starting point is 00:38:51 civil rights. So that added not just our half or six months possible sentence with face, another 10 years possible sentence. I could have told you almost exactly what they would have charged you with before you even said it. I'm not surprised at all. This face act, a lot of people don't know about it. The face act was pushed by Bill Clinton and it was to protect abortion mills from anyone objecting to them slaughtering babies. That's what it was about. It was about shutting down peaceful protests. And it got held up in the legislative process because it was just so obviously evil. I mean, it's just such an evil law. So the way that they tried to save face on it was they said, okay, and we're also going to protect houses of worship from protests.
Starting point is 00:39:41 But the face act is never used to prosecute protests at houses of worship. There's all sorts of vandalism, all sorts of evil stuff that the libs inflict on churches. And that stuff almost never gets prosecuted. And the FACE Act is never used as the justification for that kind of prosecution. Its only use is to protect the abortion mills from people praying and singing outside of them and putting people such as yourself in prison. Then the Civil Rights Act, or I'm sorry, the older civil rights laws that are being applied by the federal government, because now it's a federal crime.
Starting point is 00:40:16 they're it's so disingenuous because in modern society the the justification for any great political movement has to be civil rights and the protection of civil rights but of course what about the civil rights of a little baby not to be murdered that seems to have gone out the wayside so now you're looking at over a decade in prison what are the odds that that you have to serve it Well, honestly, that's all in the hands of the judge in the early July. We just have the example of the sentencing in a DC case. The situation with their case was different from ours, so it's not identical. But those defendants received anywhere from 21 months to like 57 months, I believe.
Starting point is 00:41:09 But they were held from the moment they were arrested all the way through to the trial. So we really don't know. We're just trusted the father. What happens, happens. But it's up to the judge. When you decided to go and peacefully protest at the abortion mill, did you know this might happen? Well, nobody did.
Starting point is 00:41:30 This has never happened before. We knew there was a possibility of a face charge. But, I mean, they pulled this other civil rights issue up out of thin air. This is all new. Nobody expected this. And how? How are you and your family and your fellow demonstrators holding up? Well, as for me, I'm blessed.
Starting point is 00:41:53 The scripture says, you know, those who live godly Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. And it's nothing we want, but God's grace is sufficient. And as far as I know, with the other defendants, they're friends of mine. They're also like that. Of course, we don't want to go to prison. We have families. But we're trusting the Father through it all. that ultimately he would receive the most glory
Starting point is 00:42:14 wherever he has us for the moment. What do you make, given these kinds of, now it seems common prosecutions of nice, ordinary people who were just quietly, or at least modestly and peacefully objecting to infanticide. All of these prosecutions, people go into prison,
Starting point is 00:42:35 what do you make a President Trump's observation that we're living in a failing nation? Well, I mean, that's obviously true. And we've been going down this road for a long time. We're just really running off the cliff. And those things that God calls an abomination are now accepted as a civil right and as justified and good and wholesome. So, yeah, we're in a bad state. And, you know, the Bible says judgment begins in the house of the Lord.
Starting point is 00:43:10 You know, if things happen like this, those who stand up against evil, if hard times are going to have to come to them first, it seems that way right now, then I guess it's the road we're going to have to walk. But hopefully, with all the press and with all the attention that these crazy absurd sentences or potential sentences will bring in the way they're persecuting the church who stand against wickedness, hopefully it will waken people up. and some people start speaking out and standing against it. I know that the politicians, even Trump, has spoken about our case on his campaign trail. Hopefully, if he gets elected, he won't forget what he said during his campaigning and if we're sitting in prison. When will you find out?
Starting point is 00:43:59 I mean, when is the sentencing? July 2nd and 3rd. July 6th. So it's really coming up. Speaking of President Trump, there's a nice little coincidence. there, which is that the president's sentencing is right around that time as well. And then four days after that, you're going to have the Republican National Convention with or without a nominee, I guess, depending on if they put the nominee in an orange jumpsuit. So looking ahead at this,
Starting point is 00:44:26 not just as a personal and legal issue, but as a political issue, are you hopeful? I mean, I know you're hopeful in the theological sense. You know, it's a theological virtue, but are you hopeful that the country is going to, this is going to wake people up? Or do you think that, no, that the libs are going to ramp up this persecution and things are going to get a lot worse before they get better? Okay, yeah, I think the latter. I can see where they're going to have been, because that's what they're doing. You know, they've been, the feds have been bringing charges against people who had been arrested years ago, that whose court cases already been settled. They were gone. and then digging those cases up to bring federal charges against them.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Now they're seeing that it's working, at least at this point, they're getting convictions. So I think they're enjoying their time right now. But whether things will turn around in the future, I mean, if I don't speak theologically, just what I see around me. I see things growing worse. I look at, you know, how are college students being taught right now in the universities, you know, our future leaders and the worldviews people have. and what I see when I minister at the abortion clinics,
Starting point is 00:45:41 harder in harder hearts than I used to say the 90s. But I'm hopeful that if the church acts like the church and becomes salt and light as we should be, that also will identify. And hopefully, hopefully, you know, we always want to see revival. But things may get tough. I mean, hey, they got tough in Russia and China and Cuba. We're not necessarily exempt from hard times. Yeah, that's true. And the Christian view of history, of course, is a little different maybe than the secular view of history where they say it's just one damn thing after another. The Christian view of history is that we know the beginning. We know the pivot of history, the incarnation, the crucifixion, the resurrection. And we know the end of history. We actually know how the story ends. And it ultimately ends, you know, in a happy way. Though there's a lot of suffering in the meantime. And it seems that our persecuted.
Starting point is 00:46:36 on the other side of the political aisle are going to ramp that up as quickly as they can. Danny, best of luck to you. We will pray for you, of course, and thank you so much for coming on the show. Thank you, Michael. All right, I'm Michael Knowles. There's much more show, but it's in the Membrum segmentum. So it's Woke Wednesday. The show continues now at DailyWire.com. Use code Knowles to get your brand new subscription, become a member of the Chim du la Chim. We'll see you momentarily. Lots of places can expose you to.
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