The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1636 - BREAKING: 26 Feds Involved In January 6th Riot
Episode Date: December 13, 2024Twenty-six FBI informants are confirmed to have been at the Capitol on January 6th, Caitlin Clark shares "her truth," and assisted suicide now accounts for one in 20 deaths in Canada. Click here to... join the member-exclusive portion of my show: https://bit.ly/4biDlri Ep.1636 - - - DailyWire+: Finish your Christmas shopping with one click. Go to https://DailyWire.com now and give the gift of DailyWire+! Matt Walsh’s hit documentary “Am I Racist?” is NOW AVAILABLE on DailyWire+! Head to https://amiracist.com to become a member today! Join The Candle Club! Become a Founding Member for 20% OFF, plus receive an exclusive members box with limited-edition candle at https://TheCandleClub.com Order your Mayflower Cigars here: https://bit.ly/3Qwwxx2 (Must be 21+ to purchase. Exclusions may apply) - - - Today's Sponsors: Lumen - Get 15% off your purchase! https://lumen.me/KNOWLES Stronghold Rescue & Relief - Support our teams today at https://strongholdrescue.org Stop Box USA - Get firearm security redesigned and save with BOGO the StopBox Pro AND 10% OFF @StopBoxUSA with code KNOWLES at https://stopboxusa.com/KNOWLES! #stopboxpod - - - Socials: Follow on Twitter: https://bit.ly/3RwKpq6 Follow on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3BqZLXA Follow on Facebook: https://bit.ly/3eEmwyg Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3L273Ek Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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The Justice Department Inspector General has just proven once and for all that there were 26 FBI informants present during the tumult at the Capitol on January 6th, the worst day in history of the Australian Republic.
Which explains, of course, why the liberal media are uniformly reporting that the FBI had nothing to do with January 6th.
I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles show. Welcome back to the show.
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admits that there were FBI informants at the Capitol on January 6th. There were dozens of them.
There were 26 of them. So that is Politico report up.
on this. This is the headline. FBI did not deploy undercover agents on January 6th.
Watchdog report finds undercutting conspiracy theories. Wait, what? Hold on. Hold on.
Hold on. I thought, I saw that the FBI had 26 informants at January 6th, but this Politico
headline says, FBI did not deploy undercover agents on January. Hold on. Let me read the article,
at least. What are they saying? A Justice Department of Watchdog found no evidence that the FBI deployed
undercover agents to the Capitol or nearby protests on January 6th, January 6th, 2021,
further undercutting debunked conspiracy theories about the riot being instigated by law enforcement.
The report throws cold water on theories that have become gospel among some segments of Donald Trump supporters
who accuse the FBI fomenting violence, blah, blah, blah.
But hold on, and this is an interesting paragraph.
Horowitz also found that among the tens of thousands of Trump supporters,
who flooded Washington that day, 26 were people who had served as informants for the FBI.
Wait, hold on. FBI didn't deploy...
Oh, oh, now I get it.
They didn't deploy undercover agents.
They just had informants there.
An undercover agent is different from, I don't know, an out in the open office worker
is different from an informant or an asset.
Okay, so they did have 26 people who served as informants.
Those informants, known as confidential human sources or CHS's, are not government.
employees, but occasionally, they occasionally provide intelligence to the Bureau.
Next paragraph. Of those 26 informants, only three had been specifically tasked by the FBI
to track individuals they suspected of potential domestic terrorism activity.
And the other 23, you know, they were just kind of there.
Though some of them, it's amazing, some of them proactively contacted the FBI amid the riot
to report potential crimes.
and just four of the 26 informants went into the Capitol and nine others trespassed on the FBI grounds.
Hold on. Hold on. Wait. So the headline is FBI didn't deploy undercover agents, but the actual facts of the article are the FBI had 26 informants at the January 6th riot.
They specifically tasked three of them with working for them at the riot. And then in addition to the,
the three who were specifically tasked with that, the other ones who were there proactively,
some of them, not all of them, proactively contacted the FBI during the riot to snitch on people.
And your headline, Politico, is, FBI didn't deploy undercover agents, debunking conspiracy theories.
What do you talk? This totally validates all of the theories. The FBI had a bunch of people there.
And they were during the riot, they were reporting and snitching on people who were there.
and some of them were specifically tasked with being there and following people.
This is why nobody trusts Politico and nobody anymore seems to trust the mainstream news networks
and nobody seems to trust the New York Times or the Washington Post because the purpose of
this headline is to deceive.
That's the purpose.
Technically the headline is accurate.
The FBI didn't deploy undercover agents.
But is our accusation that the FBI deployed a specific kind of employee, this one specific
kind of employee only on January 6th?
No, our argument was, seems kind of like there were some feds there.
You know, it seems kind of like the FBI was involved in this in some way.
It's kind of glows a little bit, man, wouldn't you say?
And the Inspector General report proves that beyond a shadow of a doubt.
But the headline, and it's not, I'm beating up on Politico, it's not just
Politico, it's all of the liberal news sources are saying new IG report debunks claims. But if you
actually read the meat of the report, it completely validates the claims. This is a prime example
of fake news. And for the people who do actually read into it now, we can see the FBI was involved
in January 6th. On the ground, in the moment, live reporting involved.
no surprise there. Meanwhile, the libs are trying to undercut the incoming Trump administration.
They obviously were trying to undercut President Trump in 2020, but they're doing it again in 2024,
even after Trump's landslide win, even after he won the popular vote.
They're trying to undercut the administration with sex scandals. And this is kind of ironic.
The latest one, the latest one comes from or against Kimberly Gilfell.
Foyle. Kimberly Gilfoyle, long-time Fox News host, conservative activist and commentator. She has been in a
relationship with Don Jr. She's now been appointed or nominated for the ambassador to Greece.
Great for her. Fabulous congratulations. Except now the libs want to take her down because of a sex scandal.
I won't even get into all the ridiculous charges, but this is actually old news. There was a
report about this some years ago. It was during the Me Too movie.
and it was some assistant saying that, you know, she spoke in improper ways to me or whatever.
You know, who cares.
My interest in this is not about the libs dredging up some long ago supposed sex scandal.
My interest in this is in the audacity of the libs to make sex scandals a thing at all.
Because correct me if I'm wrong, the liberal culture has told everyone
for 60 years now, more than 60 years, that sex is no big deal. For 60 years, the libs have encouraged
everyone to stop being so uptight about sex. The libs have encouraged everyone to have the weirdest
kind of sex they can possibly imagine. They have parades for weird sex. They fly flags for weird sex.
They put those flags for weird sex in kindergarten classrooms with other weird sex propaganda.
They are really, really pro weird, eccentric, bizarre sex.
And then they have the goal to try to take down President Trump's nominees on sex scandals.
Successfully in the case of Matt Gates, it would seem unsuccessfully in the case of Pete Hegseth.
But they're going after everyone this way.
They'll certainly go after Bobby Kennedy.
They'll go after everyone, Trump himself.
Now Kim Gilfoyle.
That's kind of odd, isn't it?
Now, they never go after the Libs for their manifest sex scandals.
Remember when Joe Biden had that bald-headed cross-dresser in his administration?
he was the nuclear waste official.
He ended up going down because he was a kleptomaniac
who got caught multiple times stealing women's expensive luggage at multiple airports.
So that had him out.
But when he was just a cross-dresser,
gallivanting pictures of him dragging men along on leashes with leather costumes on,
Joe Biden had that monkey pox, I guess that's sort of fitting.
But he was a guy.
He was a very open, homosexual, wearing pentagram leather harnesses doing all.
We're not even talking about just like,
kind of keep it to yourself stuff. We're talking like flaunted out in the open, post all over
social media, we're queer, we're here, get used to it, weirdo sex stuff. That was never a scandal.
But now any time any Republican ever, you know, engages in any kind of romantic activity that did not
immediately result in the birth of a child with one's wife, you know, all of a sudden now that's
front page news. So it seems really arbitrary. Well, not arbitrary. It seems intentional, but it seems
selective. And there's a conclusion to draw from this. One, the libs are being completely disingenuous
and hypocritical on the sex scandals, which is why judging by the standards of the day, it's really
difficult for me to get riled up about them because there's not a uniform standard for everyone,
at least in the popular culture. But two, it is a reminder.
to behave yourself. It's a reminder to avoid temptations to this weird sex stuff. And because
while everyone might say, oh, it's totally fine. It's cool. You're actually weird if you only want to
get married and have children. No, come on. You need to loosen up, man. It's the age of Aquarius.
They'll say that at one moment. But then the moment they want to take you down, they'll use all of that
behavior. It's compromise is really what they're getting. I think this is why the
liberal establishment is so keen on getting everyone hooked on porn and all this kind of weird
sex stuff is because then people have embarrassing information about them. And then they can use it
against you when you step out of line. It's compromise, plain and simple. So as a general rule,
you know, stick on the right side of things, like behave yourself. But when we're talking about
these confirmation battles, I don't think any Republican senator should, should for one moment
consider voting against one of these appointees
because they engaged in,
even in sexual behavior that might,
that is legitimately kind of off or weird or could be,
even if some of these allegations are true.
That is not the standard by which political appointees are judged.
And the libs are not bringing these accusations in good faith.
And if the culture has been telling people to do this stuff for 60 years,
you know, I think we kind of have to offer a little bit of grace on that.
And then we should fix the culture and have the culture stop encouraging it.
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where I was conceived. South Jersey has just turned to the ABC News investigative team,
because she says she was the target of a malicious online attack. Some guy created fake pornography about her.
So some guy using artificial intelligence created all of these pictures and perhaps
even videos judging by some of the things he's said, of her engaging in degrading, obscene actions
that she never engaged in. And she's rightly upset about this and wants this guy to be held to justice.
She learned the images were likely being created by a guy she'd befriended on a social dating app.
The same guy she told her investigative team had also had access to her Facebook photos.
One thing that really stuck with me in the screenshot she sent me is that he said,
I made so many clips of what that BITCH would do.
Like, it's disgusting.
Like, how dare you?
This is very, very disgusting.
But then it got me thinking, okay, what exactly is the crime here?
Because he didn't take photos of her.
He didn't secretly record her or anything like that.
He took publicly available images of her.
Maybe it's a warning for women not to post all their pictures online.
But he took publicly available pictures of her,
then plugged it into a robot and asked the,
robot to create a depiction of her doing all this weird stuff. But it's a, it's just an artistic
depiction, an obscene artistic depiction, but it's not, it's not an actual photograph. I thought,
how is this different from the guy if he had a crush on this woman and just spent hours at night
doing an oil painting of this woman in all sorts of obscene positions? How would it be different?
It's just an artistic rendering of something from his imagination based on a real person. How is it
different. And so a few ways that they're different. One, oil painting requires skill,
plugging something into grok or chat GPT does not require skill. But furthermore, the way it's
different is if the guy were spending hours and hours every night making oil portraits of some woman
that he barely knows in obscene sorts of positions, that guy would be considered the creepiest
predator, a true psycho who should probably be locked up in a padded cell, totally ostracized from
society. But because he's doing the same thing, just plugging in some pictures into a robot,
it's considered somewhat normal. Some people throw their hands up, they say, oh, there's nothing
we can do about this. Oh, well, that's just how it works. That is really spooky. That is really creepy.
that we could normalize this kind of behavior.
And deep fake pornography is now a ubiquitous problem for years.
Law enforcement has been warning about this.
So what do you do about it?
The only thing you can do is you can try to put some limits on the technology,
which would be a good thing to do.
Libertarians might not like it, but that's a good thing to do.
And you need to pass laws criminalizing this stuff,
which the libertarians also might not like and the liberals might not like,
but you have to do that.
And I know that the sophomoric response to that from the libs
is going to be, well, who's it hurting?
You know, what does it matter?
What you're doing the privacy of your own?
Well, it's hurting this person who's being depicted.
I think.
I think the person who's being depicted ought to have some legal recourse and not have these
realistic looking images of herself out there.
It's hurting the individual who's looking at this stuff because it's turning him
into like a little demon, you know, into a little pervert demon and warping his soul
and warping, turning his brain into mush and just making him into a little creepy
Gollum. You know, it's bad for him. And I believe as a society, we ought to create incentives that
lead people toward flourishing and we ought to have disincentives for things that turn you into creepy
little pervert golems. That's just my view. Call me old-fashioned. And it's bad for a society because
the individual participates in society. So if you have a society of perverts, you're not going to
have a good country. And you have an obligation, not only to yourself, not only to your God,
but also to your neighbors to not be a creepy little golem pervert, okay?
So for all of those reasons and more,
we got to cut this stuff out.
And you have to do it at the private level,
at the business level, you know, the corporate level,
but also as a matter of the law.
There need to be severe punishments for this stuff
to discourage people from getting involved in it
so that we don't all turn into a society of little creeps.
Now, speaking of young women,
Caitlin Clark, the lady basketball player,
has just been named the Time Athlete of the Year.
And there are a lot of conservatives who are placing some hope in Caitlin Clark.
Seems like a nice girl.
I believe she was Jesuit educated.
Seems perfectly lovely.
Some have even suggested maybe she's kind of conservative.
Well, this interview she just gave to Time magazine
seems to pour a little bit of water on that idea because she seems to be talking like a big lip.
I feel like I always have had really good perspective on everything that's kind of happened in my life,
whether that's been good, whether that's been bad.
And then obviously coming to the WMBA, like I've said, I feel like I've earned every single thing
that's happened to me over the course of my career.
But also, I grew up a fan of this league from a very young age.
Like, my favorite player was Maya Moore.
Like, I know what this league was about.
And like I said, it's only been around 25 plus years.
So I know there's been so many amazing black women that have been in this league and continuing to uplift them, I think, is very important.
And that's something I'm very aware of.
And like I said, like I try to just be real and authentic and, you know, share my truth.
And I think that's very easy for me.
Like, I'm very comfortable in my own skin.
And that's kind of been how it is my entire life.
Yes.
She gets the applause, but she's getting the applause speaking in a pretty,
liberal way, even the notion that one can have his own truth or her own truth, my truth and your
truth rather than the truth, the truth by its nature being objective. That's pretty lib. Elsewhere,
in Time magazine, it says, Clark is cognizant of the racial underpinnings of her stardom. I want to say
I've earned every single thing, but as a white person, there is privilege. A lot of those players
in the league that have been really good have been black players. This league has been built on them,
you know, all this stuff. We need to elevate black women, black good, white, bad, all this
seems kind of lib. Now, you might say, look, she's speaking the language,
paesikivai, usanzikotrovi, you know, you've got to be all things to all men.
But at a certain point, where does that leave you?
She's using the language of libs. She's spending all her time around libs.
She's in a field that is intrinsically liberal.
It's probably going to leave you a lib.
And this is a broader observation that I think is important for everyone to consider.
if you spend your life in and around libs all the time, you are most likely going to end up a lib.
Or a conservative, if you spend your time all around conservatives, or a Zoroastrian, if you spend your time all around Zoroastrians.
Human beings are memetic. We imitate each other. We imitate each other's behaviors and desires and beliefs.
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Tale as old as time. Tale as old as the country, at least. Well, what happened? You were changed.
Yeah, that's what happens. That's inevitably, actually. You just acclimate to your environments,
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Well, no, that's not true.
the left would have loved him even more.
In this case, the Libs loved Luigi because he allegedly murdered a health care executive.
Had Luigi murdered the Mango Mussolini, then Luigi would be a national hero, an international hero to the left.
It wouldn't be a hero to most Americans, most of whom support Trump.
But, oh, man, if he'd gone after Trump, they'd love him even more.
Now, speaking of death, assisted suicide is now the cause of one in 20 deaths in cancer.
Canada. Five percent of Canadians who die die by their own hand or by their own hand with the help of a doctor
or a nurse or some other ghoul helping to snuff out their life. Most of the recipients are older
adults, 96 percent, with a median age of 77. Well, hold on. Median age of 77, that's really
actually not all that high. These days, people live into their 80s, sometimes 90s or 100.
77, that's actually younger than I would have expected.
And that's the median, which means half of them are younger.
Half of the older adults are younger.
What about the 4% who were not older adults with the median age of 77?
How old were they?
50, 40, 30, 25?
Yikes.
We're getting these numbers from an annual report by the Canadian government,
showing that ever since euthanasia, a preposterously titled euphemism,
euthanasia means a good death. It's the opposite. It's the worst kind of death. It is the single
worst kind of death you can suffer, a death at your own hand. A vile, evil way to die. A good
death is a death where you have some notice where you can prepare your soul, prepare for
to meet your maker, surrounded by loved ones. That's a good death. That's what our civilization is
considered a good death for many, many centuries, not anymore. Now we consider a good death
to be one that you don't see coming or one at your own hand, both of which would have been
considered the worst kinds of death when our civilization was healthy. The number just keeps
growing, doesn't it? Since the establishment of Maid, medical assistance in dying in Canada,
I was in 2016, more than 60,000 people have killed themselves. More people have killed themselves
in other ways, but they've killed themselves through Maid.
4.7% about 1 and 20 of all deaths in the country. This is one of the real moral hazards of
assisted suicide. Assisted suicide or any kind of suicide is wrong because it violates the natural law.
It is contrary to one's own good. It creates a duality in man where none ought to exist,
where you become your own murderer, where you are the victim of yourself, which is contrary to the
unity of the person. It's contrary to the most basic aspect of the natural law, which is to do good
and avoid evil. It's an offense to God because God gave you your life. Even if you don't believe in
God, you have to admit you didn't make your own life. You're not responsible for your own life.
You don't own your own life. It is a gift that was given to you and you don't get to keep it
forever. You are a steward of your life. And it's offensive to the person who gave you your life,
to the one God who gave you your life. This is one of the many more.
Hazards, though, of assisted suicide, even beyond why it's intrinsically wrong.
People say, when they think about assisted suicide, they think that it's some 99-year-old
person suffering from immense pain that cannot receive any palliative care whatsoever.
Now, this person doesn't exist.
If there's one thing modern medical science has figured out, it's how to manage pain.
We're pretty good at that.
Not perfect, but we're pretty good at that.
but it's not the 99-year-old with the pain that can't be controlled at all,
who's just going to be snuffed out five minutes before death, a mercy killing.
No, no, that's not it at all.
Not the numbers we're seeing.
The problem with assistance, one of the problems with assisted suicide is not that a few people
are going to kill themselves every year.
It's that everyone's going to kill themselves eventually.
The problem, one of the problems with this, I have to keep saying one of the problems
because there are many problems with it.
But one of the problems with assisted suicide,
one of the mistakes we make when we think about it
is we think it's going to be some really small percentage
of the population that uses it.
No, that number is still growing in Canada.
It's only been around a handful of years.
The problem is eventually, as it is normalized,
you're going to see more and more,
at a certain point, maybe most people dying in this way.
This is like The Giver.
If you've ever read the book, The Giver,
Everyone just kind of gets killed by a doctor in the end.
It's so normalized, it's expected.
And then people who fear that they're a burden to their families, which is almost every elderly person, people who fall into a little bit of a depression.
And this particular political climate, it's understandable why people would be a little depressed.
People who live in a culture of despair and a culture of death increasingly are going to be inclined to kill themselves.
And that's going to be the way we do.
We're going to kill ourselves if this keeps up.
We often talk about the suicide of the West.
This will be the literal
instantiation of it.
Speaking of despair,
Rosie O'Donnell is blaming Donald Trump
for giving her herpes.
Well, hey, everybody, it's Friday all day,
as my Nana would say.
And look what I have on my lip.
Everybody's been saying,
you have herpes, you have herpes,
all this time,
and I never had a cold sore in my life,
and now I have a cold sore.
And it makes me think
that perhaps this weird pimple
that had a tiny little head
was a cold sore too.
And so I talked to my doctor today,
and I did a video telehealth,
and they said that it's not a cold sore,
it's some reaction to the sun.
Now, I did sit in the sun yesterday,
but I had sunscreen on.
So I don't know,
I will let you know tomorrow,
if I do, in fact, have herpes
as some of the taunting from the MAGA people
in the last couple of weeks,
Hasn't it been fun, ladies and gentlemen,
to be standing in direct opposition to everything he is and represents
and always have been.
And always will be.
Okay, hold on.
There was a little bit difficult to track her logic there at the end.
So I don't think she's saying that Trump and the MAGA people gave her herpes.
Though if it's some kind of reaction to stress or anxiety,
I guess then she could blame it on Trump.
But it might, she might just be blamed.
blaming Trump and the MAGA people for the mockery that she's receiving at the prospect that she might have herpes or I don't know.
It's hard to track, but I do know she started out talking about how she has a blister on her lip and she ended up talking about how much she hates Trump.
And frankly, I think she could have started out talking about any topic.
I think she could have started out talking about the New York Mets or gingerbread cookies.
and she still would have ended her monologue talking about how much she hates Trump,
because, especially for Rosie O'Donnell, who's feuded with Trump for 20 years now,
but really for the Libs broadly, he lives rent-free in their minds.
They just keep coming back to Trump.
It's just every, it's about him.
Everything's about him.
The political narrative of the past decade almost now has really been about this guy.
Sometimes your politicians say, it's not about me, it's about the people.
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Hey, Michael. I'm just I'm 17. I'm Dominic and I'm 17.
And we're really big fans of the show. But we just had a question.
We were talking with some friends and we have a friend in class who is,
who is a female but pretends to be a male.
We don't want to call her by her fake name,
but we don't know what a real name is,
and we definitely don't want to call her by the false pronouns.
But is it all right to call her by her fake name, Miles?
What would be an alternative if we didn't want to call her by her fake name?
Anyway, thank you. We really appreciate it.
Yeah, thank you. God bless you.
Thank you. Really good question, guys.
And one that doesn't have an easy answer because you don't know her real name.
I guess what I would do if I were in your shoes.
It would be very difficult for me to use the fake name Miles.
If she were going by Skyler or something, maybe you could,
because some names are ambiguous.
Even like Evelyn or Evelyn, you know, Evelyn Wall.
But Miles, that's a fella's name.
There's no doubt about that.
And one of the reasons that you don't want to call the girl by the boy's name
is not just to stand on your high horse or even,
just to maintain your principles, which is an important thing to do. But it's also, you don't want to
be guilty of scandal by affirming this poor, confused girl of a delusion that is really harmful to her.
So I think you actually would be harming her, and you would be harming a lot of other people,
if you were to call them by some fake name, the name of the opposite sex. Certainly,
you wouldn't use the pronouns. So what would you do? If it were me, I would avoid
using the name.
Or I would
I don't know, maybe use
the last name if you can.
I don't know if her name is
Millie Smith or something.
Oh yes, the lovely Smith over there, you know,
or something. It's very difficult. It's very awkward.
This is why this is one of those issues that's so
polarized and polarizing is
you can't even speak about it.
When you speak about it, you are taking
aside. I remember some years ago, a friend of mine, one of a handful of friends who have really
written me off because she's very, very liberal, very liberal. But we were chatting and we were
talking about Bruce Jenner or something like that. And we were having a conversation and she
referred to Caitlin Jenner and she, she and her and Caitlin Jenner, and I was referring to
Bruce Jenner and he and him. It was very awkward. You can't, you actually can't speak. And whichever one
gives up first on the name and the pronouns is implicitly conceding the debate. So I would,
in charity, but in justice also, I would avoid the name. Hey, you. Next one. Hi, Michael. It's the
Shuckmeister. Since assisted suicide is being pushed, I would like to ask if it's at all possible
to have a death with dignity by your own hand. Now, I'm a Catholic. I believe it's deeply
mortally sinful in union with the catechism. However, a little-known Catholic poet you might have
heard of called Dante has a bit of a nuanced take. The first demand that Dante and Virgil meet
in Purgatorio is Cato the Younger, the famed a Roman statesman who chose to unalive himself
rather than compromise to Caesar. He's not condemned to the circle of violence against self. In some
ways, he's venerated by Dante guarding the foot of Mount Purgatory. This is especially confusing
because Dante has a strong respect to Caesar in his writings. Why do you think it is
is. And did people like Cato or even Socrates die with dignity by their own hand?
It's a very, very good question, a very challenging question. But my answer is, I think Dante
used a little poetic license here. The issue is Dante puts the suicides in hell very clearly.
And their skin has been cast off. And it's on all these gross like trees and because they just
They had no care for their bodies in life.
But he puts Cato, who is an exemplar of liberty for Dante, in purgatory, he's guarding
Mount Purgatory.
And Cato also killed himself rather than see the total collapse of the Roman Republic.
So what do we make sense of that?
Well, Dante is focusing on an aspect of Cato, his defense of liberty.
And he's not really answering for the suicide.
You know, St. Augustine deals with this issue, too.
Is Cato, is it good?
Is it defensible that he kills himself in defense of?
of liberty, or is it, or is it
disreputable? And Augustine's
very clear. He says, no, it's bad.
Don't defend him for killing himself. That's
wrong. But St. Augustine is writing
a work of theology. Dante is writing an epic
poem that contains a lot of theology, but
it's about more than theology, and so I would say it's
poetic license. And not
in any way defense of suicide.
Next question.
Hi, Michael. My name is Josephine, and I'm a Jew
living in Romania. My husband
and I are currently going through IVF,
and I've been struggling with the bioethical
dilemmas of the disposal of unused embryos. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Christians believe that
since life begins at conception, the disposal of unused embryos is tantamount to murder. As Jews have a different
perspective, and I'm curious to hear your opinion. In Judaism, we believe that IVF is okay,
provided that the sperm and the egg be from the husband and wife, and thus they frown upon surrogates,
egg and sperm donors. Thank God that's not something my husband and I are doing. We are using my
egg and his sperm, but because of fertility issues, we are unable to conceive naturally.
Secondly, for life to begin, you require the egg of the sperm and the womb. Without the womb,
it is not yet a life. The embryo will not continue to grow on its own without an incubation
in the mother's womb, meaning that it is morally okay to dispose of unused embryos. I think this
would not include the possible scenario in the future where scientists are able to grow the
baby in an incubator outside the mother's womb since the womb provides for much more than just an
incubator. What do you think of this perspective from comparative religious preview? Thanks for all
that you do. Love the show. Really good question. Sorry to hear about your fertility struggles.
I don't think that argument quite holds up. You rightly recognize that there are bioethical issues for IVF.
I know it's tempting. I would discourage you from doing IVF. I would encourage you to try other methods.
tried to sell my wife and me IVF for two years and they really push it and they make it seem like
that's the only option and it's not two years in we got we got our first kid now we've had a couple more since
then and it was through other methods you know for my wife she ended up taking a shot for a week
and self-administered shot and that was it so I'm not saying that will work for you but I this is how
they lure you in this is the only way you won't have a kid no big deal yeah there's some bioethical
problems but who cares the ends justify the means and it's all sort of
It's a moral reasoning that is weak.
But the weakness of your comparison here is you say, look, in order for a child to grow,
you need the sperm and the egg, but you need a womb, you need an environment for the baby to grow in.
So if you create the child outside the womb, if you deny the womb to the child,
then you have no obligation to keep the child alive.
Now, there are other problems here.
Because in order to procure the sperm, you might need your husband.
to engage in an intrinsically evil action.
So that would complicate the ethics here, right?
And you would have to undergo some invasive surgery.
You say that the sperm and the egg have to be joined from a husband and a wife,
but there are mix-ups at the IVF factory all the time happens frequently.
So, you know, you might end up in a case where you've got a kid who has a mother and a father
who don't even know each other, or where you have a baby who's been implanted in the wrong woman.
These things happen.
They're in court right now.
So that would complicate the ethics there.
But let's say you actually did get it.
A husband and a wife and the sperm and the egg together, but you say,
look, I'm going to deny this baby.
I've conceived this baby outside the womb, which is naturally impossible, but using a little
wizardry, we did it.
But I'm going to deny the baby the womb, so it's okay to kill the baby.
Well, you could just fast forward nine months and observe that in order for a baby to grow,
a newborn baby to grow, the baby needs a home.
If the baby is left exposed on the street, the baby's going to die within a matter of
hours at most.
So is it okay, then, to leave it?
the baby on the street, a newborn baby. You have a newborn baby, but you're going to deny the baby the home,
just as you would deny the embryo, the womb. You're going to leave them out there, and look, nature's
going to run its course. Are you not morally culpable for that? Of course you would be. If you left
a little baby out to die of exposure, of course you would be. So I don't mean for my advice to be in any way
harsh, but I think that the, I've never heard a compelling ethical argument for IVF, and I've
heard many, many good arguments as to why it's not acceptable. And the only arguments I've heard for it
or that it's people want it. They really want a kid, which is a natural longing. But I don't think
that an end, no matter how good the end is, I don't think that justifies immoral means. Next question.
For the last few years, conservatives have been saying, look at how bad the inflation is under Joe Biden.
Think about how much worse it could get under Kamala Harris. That's why we need Donald Trump in the
White House. But now all of a sudden, conservatives like yourself, are saying, oh, it's not about the
prices. They're going to get worse under Trump, of course, because of the terrorists. But he's going to
create long-term sustainability. This seems to be a massive goal shift to me. And I would like you
to define what you mean by short-term pain, because to me, in the realm of politics, short-term means
more than four years at least. Are we going to be experiencing a situation where Democrats are
going to have justification for saying, look how bad the economy was under Trump, which is going to
run counter to our electoral goals? And if that's going to run counter to our electoral goals,
fight for long-term sustainability is going to be moot point anyway. So which is it? What should we be
arguing for? Thanks. I don't think there's any contradiction at all here. I don't think Trump has
hit the ball on this at all. Just consider the deportations. Trump says he's going to deport 10 million
people. You deport 10 million people. That is going to cause labor costs to rise, especially
10 million people, many of whom are practically indentured servants. That is going to cause labor
costs to rise. It doesn't take an economist to realize that. So those costs were going to go up.
if Trump ran on tariffs. He said, I'm going to slap tariffs. He was very open about tariffs,
and he used tariffs in the first term. That is going to cause the costs of certain goods to rise,
though it's also going to create an incentive for goods to be manufactured at home, which would be at lower cost.
So I don't think he's hit the ball at all. The difference here is that the Democrats brought us inflation
because of their irresponsibility, short-term loss and long-term loss. Trump has plenty of
of economic measures that will reduce certain costs in the short term, like unleashing American
energy, just to use one important example. But he has other economic programs that might increase
certain costs in the short term in certain areas, but in the long term, we'll bring costs down
and make us more secure nationally. So you have the Democrats, short term bad, long term worse,
because of their irresponsibility. For Trump, you have short term, maybe it's a mixed bag,
long-term better because of his responsibility.
Those are not the same things.
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