The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1667 - Trump's Gaza Takeover EXPLAINED in 4 Minutes

Episode Date: February 5, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 After almost a year and a half of war between Israel and Hamas, after 77 years of regular war between Israel and the Palestinian Arabs, President Trump might have just solved the question of who gets Gaza. Is it the Muslims? Is it the Jews? No. It's Trump. The U.S. will take over the Gaza Strip, and we will do a job with it, too. We'll own it and be responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous, unexploded bombs and other weapons on the site, level the site and get rid of the destroyed buildings, level it out, create an economic development that will supply, unlimited numbers of
Starting point is 00:00:41 jobs and housing for the people of the area, do a real job, do something different, just can't go back. If you go back, it's going to end up the same way it has for 100 years. This man has never set his eyes on a piece of real estate that he did. not want to acquire. Even in ruined Gaza, not the most lush real estate you've ever seen. The man sees opportunity. The Gaza strip mall. Maggaza. The art of the deal. Or is he actually trying to make a different deal entirely? I'm Michael Knowles. It's the Michael Nulls show. Welcome back to the show. As Elon Musk's Doge tears apart the federal government, Chuck Schumer is railing against it. The Democrats are spreading all sorts of lies and fake news.
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Starting point is 00:03:13 can acknowledge that when we're talking about who really has the right to the Gaza Strip, it is neither the Muslims nor the Jews. It is King Baldwin III. I think most people with even a passing familiarity with history and the law who have even a modicum of integrity and fairness would recognize it belongs to King Baldwin and his successors. I also noticed, someone pointed this out on X last night, King Baldwin bears a striking similarity, an odd resemblance to Baron Trump, Baron Octavian Augustus Trump, as I call him.
Starting point is 00:03:52 So anyway, just food for thought. I'm just throwing that out there. What is Trump doing? What is he doing here? I don't know. You say, hey, we're going to get Greenland. I think, oh, Greenland, that's beautiful. a lot of resources, strategic up in the Arctic.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Okay, I get that. Hey, we're going to take back the Panama Canal. Okay, that definitely very strategic, very much in America's national security interest. I totally under, we never should have given it up in the first place during the Carter administration. Hey, we're going to maybe acquire Canada. Yeah, it makes sense. It's just America's top hat. So maybe that, hey, we got to get Gaza.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Wait, Gaza, what? Huh? I don't know about Gaza. What is this? Some people are suggesting. that this was just a deal that BB Netanyahu cooked up. Netanyahu, the prime minister of Israel, was at the White House with President Trump yesterday. And this is Trump just doing Netanyahu's bidding.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Oh, great. Okay, BB breaks it, and then Trump goes in and cleans it up, and it's all good for Israel. That's what Israel. But I got to tell you, the primary video footage of Trump's announcement has the camera focused just on Trump. if you look at the other angle, Bibi Netanyahu's expression does not look like the expression of someone who is thrilled about this proposal. This does not look like the expression of someone who even expected this proposal. Just take a look. Here's Trump's announcement from Netanyahu's angle.
Starting point is 00:05:21 The U.S. will take over the Gaza Strip and we will do a job with it to. See, look at Bibi. And be responsible for dismantling all of the day. The minute that Trump announces, we're going to take over the Gaza Strip, he's got his eyebrow raised. He starts shifting uncomfortably. He looks out at the audience, kind of with an odd smirk, like, what? What is this guy talking about? Looks back at Trump.
Starting point is 00:05:45 He's shifting all over, looking down at his notes. You don't usually see Netanyahu this nervous. This is a man who's very much in command of his body. Keeps looking at, how am I supposed to react here? What? Okay, what do I say now? Hey, look at this. The shifting of the weight.
Starting point is 00:06:08 I do not read this announcement as a secret deal that Trump and Netanyahu cooked up in the back room. Obviously, they've been talking about this issue, but I read this announcement from Trump as a move. I read this announcement from Trump as a part of a much larger negotiation. not just a negotiation with the Palestinian Arabs or with Arab states, Muslim states in the region. I view this announcement as also part of a negotiation with the state of Israel. I don't know that Netanyahu really benefits from Trump coming in and saying, we own Gaza now. You own Gaza? Wait, what? In part because if Trump claims Gaza, says that's ours now, that means that.
Starting point is 00:06:58 that means the war is over. And if the war is over, that's bad for Netanyahu. Netanyahu needs the war to continue. One, to maintain his domestic political popularity, but two, because Hamas has not been totally dismantled yet. That was the strategic objective of the war in Gaza. After October 7th, Hamas leads this assault on Israel, Israeli civilians, and so Israel goes in, says we can no longer accept the security threat on our border,
Starting point is 00:07:27 so we have to dismantle Hamas. Nothing less will suffice in this war. The war's been going on almost a year and a half now. There's a ceasefire deal announced by Trump because when Trump got elected, he said, hey, Netanyahu, do whatever you want, do whatever you want while Biden's president. Just wrap this thing up by the time I'm inaugurated. And Trump seems to be following through on that. They announced the ceasefire deal.
Starting point is 00:07:51 A lot of people in Israel are upset by the ceasefire deal because they wanted the war to continue and they wanted Hamas to be further obliterated. Now Trump comes in, he says, yeah, it's ours. We own it now. Well, if the United States owns Gaza, then the Israelis can't drop any more bombs. Is that maybe part of what's going on here? Now, a lot of people are saying, we don't want to own Gaza. We don't want to be nation building in the Middle East. It wasn't cool when George Bush did it. It's not cool when Donald Trump does it. I'm just not convinced that Trump's statements yesterday reflect his true strategic objectives. I think, and I think we got a lot of evidence behind this now that Trump sometimes talks past the sale, to use the language of Scott Adams. I think sometimes Trump throws things out there so that he can walk certain proposals back later on and achieve a deal. I think the guy negotiates. You know, he's written multiple books about this. He doesn't exactly hide the ball on negotiating. So what's really going to happen in Gaza? I mean, look, maybe there's going to be a big international Trump golf course
Starting point is 00:08:58 and hotel and casino in Con Unis, maybe. I would be surprised by that, but that could happen. But nuts and bolts, what is the plan for Gaza? What about all of the displaced civilians? There, Trump and Netanyahu discuss it in the Oval Office. Peter? Would Palestinians have the right to return to Gaza if they left while the rebuilding was happening? It would be my hope that we could do something really nice, really good. where they wouldn't want to return. Why would they want to return?
Starting point is 00:09:35 The place has been hell. It's been one of the meanest, one of the meanest, toughest places on earth. And right now, I've seen every picture from every angle, better than if I were there. And nobody can live there. You can't live there. So if we can build them through a massive amounts of money
Starting point is 00:09:57 supplied by other people, very rich nations, And they're willing to supply it. If we can build something for them in one of the countries, and it could be Jordan and it could be Egypt, it could be other countries. And you could build four or five or six areas. It doesn't have to be one area. But you take certain areas and you build
Starting point is 00:10:16 really good quality housing, like a beautiful town, like someplace where they can live and not die. Because Gaza is a guarantee that they're going to end up dying. The same thing's going to happen again. It's happened over and over. over again, and it's going to happen again, as sure as you're standing there, Peter. Okay, so the principle Trump's articulating at the end is the definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing over and over and over and expecting different results. So people who are saying
Starting point is 00:10:45 that Trump's proposals here, maybe his proposals are sincere, maybe they're just a negotiating tactic, maybe he's exaggerating, maybe it's some combination, but they're saying his proposals are insane. But Trump's response to that, his rejoinder is, no, you know what's insane? Just trying the same thing over and over and over again that has led to the exact same results for 77 years. But what's the upshot of all of this? You heard the question, I think, from Peter Ducey, will the Palestinians be permitted to return to their homes, which don't exist anymore? But will they be permitted to return, at least in principle? And Trump says, no. And there, Netanyahu does not look surprised. That looks like something they've been discussing. Trump says, no, they're not going to
Starting point is 00:11:26 return. Egypt and Jordan are going to take them, which has been a big component of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations for many decades now, says they're going to stay in Egypt or they're going to stay in Jordan. We're going to make nice places for them, big, beautiful condominiums. It's going to be great. Check out the window treatments. It's going to be fabulous. But no, they're not going to return, which, you know how much I hate to say I told you so? But on this issue, I so totally told you so for years now and I feel bad because it's an unpleasant situation, but I feel totally, totally vindicated. The strategic goal in Gaza is now and has always been. Ethnic cleansing. We'll get to what that means in just a moment because a lot of people don't understand what that
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Starting point is 00:13:39 I got in trouble because people said, Michael, how dare you accuse the Israelis of genocide? What are you talking about? I've never accused the Israelis of genocide. I said the strategic goal is ethnic cleansing. Ethnic cleansing is different from genocide. Genocide is when you exterminate an entire population. Ethnic cleansing is when you displace an entire population. Genocide very clearly prohibited in international law. Ethnic cleansing actually not so clearly prohibited, not totally addressed in international law.
Starting point is 00:14:10 It's a different thing. Not pleasant, not something that one generally encourages ethnic cleansing. However, what was the alternative going to be? the stated goal of the Palestinian Arabs is now and has always been the ethnic cleansing of Jews in the state of Israel. And in fact, in many cases, the stated goal has been genocide of the Jews in the state of Israel. So that was their stated goal. What is Israel supposed to expect from this little area of land on its west side? this area of land that is constantly shooting rockets into it
Starting point is 00:14:50 that on October 7th of 2023 invades and slaughters so many civilians. After October 7th, the Israeli state decided that Palestinians in Gaza were an unacceptable security risk. And so even if it wasn't the stated objective, the clear strategic objective was the ethnic cleansing, the displacement of the people in Gaza. Now, there's really nowhere for them to live. because the buildings have been leveled. And one feels pity for the Arab Palestinians, but let's not forget the Palestinians stated goal.
Starting point is 00:15:26 The goal actually that the Palestinian Arabs in Gaza voted for through the organization of Hamas was the ethnic cleansing of the Jews in the state of Israel. So the mutual goals of both belligerents here was the ethnic cleansing of the other. And Trump is just saying it out loud. That's what's going on here. So we can clutch our pearls. be, we can pretend to be shocked. Maybe some people really are shocked. If you've been paying attention to this for even five minutes, if you have even two brain cells to rub together and you've spent
Starting point is 00:15:54 any time focusing on this, this was obviously going to be the conclusion. Now, one other notable statement came out of Trump's meeting with Netanyahu. The statement pertained to Iranian attempts to assassinate Trump. And here is Trump's response to the Iranians. It's Iran and their proxies who threaten to retaliate against you and your team by killing you guys for taking out so long. Well, they haven't done that. And that would be a terrible thing for them to do, not because of me. If they did that, they would be obliterated. That would be the end.
Starting point is 00:16:36 I've left instructions. If they do it, they get obliterated. There won't be anything left. and they shouldn't be able to do it. And Biden should have said that, but he never did. I don't know why, lack of intelligence, perhaps. But he never said it. If that happens to a leader or close to a leader, frankly,
Starting point is 00:16:57 if you had other people involved also, you would call for total obliteration of a state that did it. That would include a rent. Total obliteration. This is a good threat because whatever you think about the threat, from Iran on the United States. Some people think that the threat against the United States is exaggerated from Iran. Whatever you think about it, Iran very much wants to assassinate Trump. That much seems clear. And John Bolton and Mike Pompeo and other people. Because President Trump
Starting point is 00:17:31 and all those other guys assassinated the top Iranian general, Kassam Soleimani. So they've been trying to kill Trump for a long time. And it's a good question to ask. What happens? happens if they assassinate you. He says, I've left instructions. What a just vague but terrifying threat if you're one of the mullahs in Iran. I've left instructions. There won't be anything left of Iran if I'm assassinated. If I'm not assassinated, maybe we play nice with Iran. If I'm assassinated, if anyone even close to me is assassinated, there won't be anything left. I think Trump's comments on Gaza
Starting point is 00:18:11 are not totally disconnected from those comments in response to assassination threats from Iran. Oh, you think I won't do it? I just claimed Gaza for myself. I said I'm going to build a hotel casino
Starting point is 00:18:27 in Kan Yunis. And guess what? Denmark believes me when I'm making threats about Greenland and Panama believes me when I'm making threats about the canal, and Mexico and Canada both believe me when I'm making threats about tariffs. So, hey, Iran, do you really want to take the chance? It's dirty hairy. I know what you're thinking. Did I fire six shots or only five? Well, to be honest, I don't
Starting point is 00:18:55 remember myself. But do you feel lucky punk, do you? That's the point of the threat that Trump is making here against Iran. Now, it's a good threat. The only thing is Trump now needs to make that neither Netanyahu nor Muhammad bin Salman in Saudi Arabia assassinate him and make it look like Iran because if you are BB or MBS in Saudi Arabia, you're thinking, hold on wait, Trump's promising to completely obliterate
Starting point is 00:19:21 my arch enemy, Iran. That's not, but I don't think that'll happen. I think actually Trump gets along very well with Netanyahu. Netanyahu said Trump is the biggest friend of the state of Israel that Israel has ever had. Saudi Arabia has a very, very good relationship with the Trump White House in particular. So I think a lot of the United States.
Starting point is 00:19:38 these threats, especially getting back to Gaza, are he's making a huge claim here, a claim that he might follow through on. I don't mean to downplay that, which will then trigger states like Saudi Arabia and Jordan and Egypt and people in the region and Israel, people in the region, to say, well, hold on. Actually, no, we'll work out a deal. Don't worry, don't worry, don't worry. You don't need to do that. Don't send in the Marines. We'll work out a deal. So I understand the legitimate concern from people, especially military families who say, I don't want my boys going over there to build resorts in Gaza. That is not a good use of the military. I totally understand that. I agree with that. But I would just say, you know, to sound like a hip-cool zoomer, let him cook.
Starting point is 00:20:29 The guy's got a good track record on these things. So I would just say, let him cook. He's cooking, let him cook. Now, speaking of Trump and killing things, President Trump is, is announced after weeks of speculation that he will, in fact, end the Department of Education. And on the Education Department, why nominate Linda McMahon to be the Education Department Secretary if you're going to get rid of the education? Because I told Linda, Linda, I hope you do a great job and put yourself out of a job. I want her to put herself out of a job. Education Department.
Starting point is 00:21:08 So we're ranked number 40 out of 40 schools. right? We're ranked number one in course per pupil. So we spend more per pupil than any other country in the world and we're ranked at the bottom of the list. We're ranked very badly. And what I want to do is let the states run schools. I believe strongly in
Starting point is 00:21:24 school choice. But in addition to that, I want the states to run schools and I want Linda to put herself out of a job. Do you think that's something you can do with an executive order or you're going to ask Congress to do it? Look, if I could give the schools back to Iowa and Idaho
Starting point is 00:21:40 and Indiana and all these places that run properly. There's many of them. There it is. Hold on. Is he going to end the Department of Education? He said he ran on ending the Department of Education, but then he appointed Lyndon McMahon to be the Secretary of Education, which seems like he's going to just change it or reform it. Okay, but here's the answer.
Starting point is 00:21:59 He is going to end it. Just like Republicans have been promising to do for 45 years. This is another key to the Trump presidency. when when people claim that Trump is radical, we've never seen anything like this before, he's extreme. Yeah, he's an American original, no question. He speaks in a way that is jarring and maybe that we haven't experienced before.
Starting point is 00:22:24 But in terms of what he is doing, you know what makes Trump unique? You know what makes him a singular, distinctive figure? It's not that he's got the craziest ideas ever. It's that he is actually following. following through on the kinds of promises that Republicans have made for decades. That's it. We've been hearing that Republicans are going to end the Department of Education since Ronald Reagan.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Every Republican president presidential candidate promises to do it. None of them follow through. Just like getting back to the Middle East, we've been hearing for decades and decades that America's going to move the embassy in Israel to Jerusalem. Every Republican president was promising that. But then none of them did it. Trump does it. That's the difference. You want to know the big difference is Trump actually does the things that all the other Republicans say that they're going to do. The difference is actually integrity and follow through. How strange to say, given the popular portrayal of President Trump. There's so much more to say first, though, go to good ranchers.com, use code knolls. Do you know what I had for dinner two nights ago? Unfortunately, not last night, but two nights ago. I had beautiful, delicious Good Ranchers Rib Eye, and I didn't have enough of it because
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Starting point is 00:25:22 You put it in there, you attach it to the email, send it in, then I will hear your beautiful, dulcet, mellifluous tones on Friday. the Washington Post is up in arms. Washington Post as the symbol and mouthpiece of the liberal establishment. Up in arms. Elon Musk's Doge, Department of Government Efficiency, is illegal. This is what Elon is doing at Trump's behest to cut departments and fat away from the federal government. It's illegal. So says WAPO. So say all these Democrat senators, all these Democrat talking heads, U.S. government officials now they're apparently quoting the secret U.S. Trump officials that privately warned that
Starting point is 00:26:15 Musk's Blitz appears illegal. The billionaire's doge team has launched an all-out assault on federal agencies triggering numerous legal objections. Okay. I'd like to give a little hat tip here to a great Twitter account, X account, Suit Moose Esquire, who made this point. yesterday. Doge is not only not illegal, Doge isn't even original. The Department of Government Efficiency is not some new idea that Elon cooked up sitting in the Tesla headquarters playing video games. It's not some new idea that Trump cooked up on his own. We have had many examples of doges in the history of the United States. And in fact, we've had doges, we've had government efficiency initiatives in the executive branch that have been implemented in pretty similar ways
Starting point is 00:27:07 to the ways that this is being implemented. What is Doge? Is it in the government? Is it outside the government? There seems to be a little confusion about that. Doge is a temporary service nestled under the U.S. Digital Service. Doge is formally tasked with upgrading software, but it's really tasked with auditing the entire executive branch. We have seen this before. We have seen this before. This goes back at least 100 years, maybe more. As the great suit moose, Esquire on X points out, Woodrow Wilson created a Bureau of Efficiency via executive action. There was no law passed by Congress. He just created the Bureau of Efficiency.
Starting point is 00:27:52 The purpose of the Bureau of Efficiency was essentially the purpose of Doge. After Wilson, FDR created the Brownlow Commission. Brownlow Commission ended with the creation of the... executive office of the president, which is all of those offices and staff members, talking about now, what is it, something like 1800 staff members nestled in the executive office of the president. Most of them work in the Eisenhower executive office building. That was created through an executive commission, pretty much like Doge. After FDR, President Truman created the Hoover Commission.
Starting point is 00:28:28 The Hoover Commission was followed by another reorganization act. FDR got his changes through a reorganization act. That was followed by another reorganization act. But the Hoover Commission was just something that President Truman cooked up to create efficiencies and a new order within the executive. Ronald Reagan, good old St. Gipper, had the Grace Commission. He created the Grace Commission via executive order, just like Trump created Doge. The purpose of the Grace Commission was to cut fat in the executive branch. And there was actually a campaign talking point.
Starting point is 00:29:01 that without the Grace Commission, the U.S. national debt would have hit $13 trillion, but they cut away so much fat that it didn't hit $13 trillion. It actually took another decade or more, more than that, to hit $13 trillion. Not just St. Reagan, not just even those old-timey Democrats, even real modern Democrats. Al Gore, when he was vice president, created the national partnership for reinventing government. same purpose as Doge to create efficiencies in the government, and same conclusions as Doge, really. The National Partnership for Reinventing Government eliminated over 100 government programs,
Starting point is 00:29:41 eliminated over a quarter million federal jobs. People are arguing now, Trump doesn't have the right. Elon Musk certainly doesn't have the right to be just deleting all of these federal jobs. There's a formal process for this. Actually, Al Gore did it. quarter million federal jobs consolidated over 800 agencies. None of those commissions and bureaus and initiatives, none of them were created by Congress. None of them were created as a matter of law on Capitol Hill.
Starting point is 00:30:15 They were all created in the executive in the exact same way that Donald Trump created Doge. Chuck Schumer on Capitol Hill apparently didn't get the memo. And the American people, mark my words, the American people will not stand for an unelected, secret group to run rampant through the executive branch. Being innovative is good, but Mr. Musk, this isn't a tech startup. These are public institutions that deal with things like Social Security and Medicare. Medicare and national defense and provide for the well-being of the American people. And the American people have a right to be part of that debate. Part of that debate.
Starting point is 00:31:09 The elections occurred. And one viewpoint got a few more votes than the other. A few more votes. A few more votes. A few more votes. A lot of democracy. Throwing. That doesn't mean what's been done for centuries in this country should just go
Starting point is 00:31:28 the window and be substituted by a small group of people who think they know a lot more than the wisdom of the American people. What's been done for a century in the United States is exactly what Trump is doing right now. Schumer, I guess, is just ignorant of his history, or he's lying. But let's be nice to Chuck, let's be charitable, and let's say he's just ignorant. The aberration, the break with historical precedent would be to have this whole thing run out of Congress. that's not how this has worked. Wilson, Roosevelt, Truman,
Starting point is 00:32:05 Reagan, Al-Freking Gore. All of them did it the way that Trump is doing it. None of them did it the way that you're proposing, Chuck. So as usual, this is just projection. Trump is acting lawlessly. His proposals are out of keeping with the American. What are you talking about? He's acting very much within the law
Starting point is 00:32:27 and within historical precedent. And just because you won a few more votes, a few more votes, hold on, it was an electoral college landslide, it was a clear popular vote victory for a Republican for the first time in 20 years, huge swads of every demographic, even the ones that you most rely on, 40% of women under 30. What are you talking? A few more votes. Just because of that doesn't mean that democracy is thrown out the window. No, no, no, democracy is not thrown out the window.
Starting point is 00:32:54 if Trump did not implement Doge, that would be throwing democracy out the window. Don't forget, this isn't some secret group of people. I love he says, there's a secret group of people. Elon Musk is secret. He's one of the most public individuals on planet Earth. They haven't exactly hid the ball on this, Chuck Schumer. Trump campaigned on putting Elon Musk in charge of efficiency in the government. This is my same argument as to why the Senate needs to confirm Tulsi Gabbard and Bobby
Starting point is 00:33:23 Kennedy Jr. The argument for that is Trump campaigned on this. Maybe you like Tulsi, maybe you like Bobby, maybe you don't like either of them. You can't say that the American people didn't know what they were getting. Trump brought them up on stage with him at Madison Square Garden and said, this is what I'm going to do with these people. If you want that vote for me, if you don't, don't vote for me. And they voted for him. Give the people what they want.
Starting point is 00:33:46 And by the way, also at Madison Square Garden and at many other rallies, he pulls Elon Musk on stage. He says, I'm going to put this guy in charge of creating efficiencies in the federal government. You want that vote for me. That's democracy in action. That's historical precedent. That's the American tradition. We don't need some secret group unaccountable to the people to be ruling us. Chuck, that's what you've been doing for the last four years.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Does anybody, even if you think Biden got elected? Does anybody think Biden's been running the show for four years? No. We have no idea who's been running the country for four years. Most people are clear at this point it wasn't Joe Biden. projection, projection, projection. Now, speaking of efficiencies, another great innovative proposal from overseas, or at least south of the border, my favorite Latin American head of state, Naib Boukele, the leader of El Salvador, has made a beautiful offer to Americans. He is offered
Starting point is 00:34:46 to imprison America's criminals. You know, Trump flies criminal aliens down to Colombia, Colombia says, no, no, Grazias, no, we don't want that. And then, you know, then Trump works out of deal. But Buckele says the opposite. He goes, oh, please, don't, not only should you bring us criminal
Starting point is 00:35:05 El Salvadorans, not only should you bring us criminal illegal aliens, we'll take your criminal American citizens, too. We got super jails over here. Ma Na'i Buckele, you want to know if that guy's good at one thing, he's good at many things. But if you want to know he's good at one thing, it is imprisoning very nasty criminals.
Starting point is 00:35:23 That guy turned El Salvador from the most dangerous country on earth to the safest country in the Western Hemisphere. And he did it by taking all the face-totued Satan worshipping gangsters and throwing in a hellish prison and then videotaping them running around like cockroaches and then broadcasting that to all the other face-tattooed gangsters. And guess what does Buckela say? He says, we've offered the United States of America the opportunity to outsource part of its prison system. we are willing to take in only convicted criminals, including convicted U.S. citizens. I love this, into our mega prison, C-E-C-O-T, in exchange for a fee. The fee would be relatively low for the U.S., but significant for us, making our entire prison system sustainable. This is the art of the deal. This is a really good deal.
Starting point is 00:36:16 You think the libs are saying, we need to end private prisons in America. I think Trump's outside the box thinking here can say, okay, great, we'll end private prisons in America. We're just going to outsource them to El Salvador. How you like that? The Libs won't arrest rapists and murderers and people who set subway cars on fire. They'll actually arrest the people who try to stop the bad guys. Okay, well, now we've got a new sheriff in town.
Starting point is 00:36:41 And you know what we're going to do? We're not only going to arrest our criminals, we're going to ship them off to Naiboukele. I think if anyone can reform him, it's going to be. be that guy. How's that sound? Not a bad idea. It'd probably be a lot cheaper than imprisoning them in the United States. And I don't know. I don't know if people are going to go for it. But I at least like that proposal as a starting point for criminal justice reform. We all want criminal justice. All right, good. That's my kind of criminal justice reform. No matter where you are watching or listening right now, take a second, hit the follow button.
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Starting point is 00:38:12 My, speaking of, so, well, maybe I had short-term memory loss from that marijuana. What was Professor Jacob smoking yesterday? I forget. Speaking of protecting Americans, Tulsi Gabbard has advanced out of committee. The Senate Intelligence Committee voted yesterday to advance Tulsi Gabbard's nomination. The vote was 9 to 8. It was a vote along party lines. Very, very good, I mean, to be expected.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Frankly, the fact that all the Republicans will vote for her, at least in committee, is a good sign because I expected plenty of Republicans to squish on Tulsi Gabbard. But this is what a mandate means. I remember, I was at that Madison Square Garden rally where Tulsi spoke and Bobby Kennedy spoke and Elon Musk spoke and a lot of people spoke. Dr. Phil spoke. There are a lot of people there. But I remember I was sitting with some friends,
Starting point is 00:39:10 I was seeing Stage Steel and Dave Rubin and a number of other people. And I said, why is he doing this rally here? Why campaigned just a couple weeks before the election in New York City. He's not going to win New York. And some friends of mine said he's going for the popular vote. In other words, he's going for a mandate. He thinks that he's got the electoral college in the bag. So now he's putting all his chips on the table. He's buying leverage for when he is elected. In retrospect, that looks like what he was doing. Had Trump hid the ball,
Starting point is 00:39:48 played it safe, run a campaign like Romney 2012, which is we're not going to talk about anything even remotely controversial, we're just going to focus on the economy. Had Trump run one of these, I'm just going to fix inflation kind of campaigns. First of all, I don't think he would have won. I think that the wisdom of the Romney campaign, that could be my next blank book, the wisdom of the Romney campaign was just mistaken. But had he done that? And then he came into office and he started talking about all these wild things.
Starting point is 00:40:17 We're going to slap new tariffs. We're going to have mass deportations. We're going to take back the Catamac Canal, all this stuff. We're going to control Gaza, whatever, you know. All of this would have been so totally jarring and unpopular. He would have been restricted. However, if during the campaign, Trump says, hey, when you elect me, you know what? You're getting Tulsi Gabbard.
Starting point is 00:40:40 You're getting two Democrat presidential candidates, and we're going to make America healthy again, and we're going to have beef tallow, you know, basically sprayed down into the atmosphere. And we're going to do this and we're going to do all. And we're going to have a lot of tariffs. and we're going to do all this. We're going to put Elon Musk in charge of some government office I haven't even invented yet.
Starting point is 00:40:57 And because he ran on it, he's got a lot of runway. People are familiar with that, and I think it's what gives him so much negotiating leverage. Now, speaking of advancing out of government, speaking of people just being advanced out of the government,
Starting point is 00:41:14 an important story happened a couple days ago, but I want to get to it. The USDA inspector general was escorted out of her office by security. Phyllis Fong is a 22-year veteran of the USDA, and she told her colleagues that she planned to stay at the White House, or stay at USDA after the White House fired her. And her argument was that the White House did not follow the proper protocols to fire her,
Starting point is 00:41:48 so she was going to keep her job. Even though Trump said she was out, she was going to keep her job. and that was that they could drag her out with security if they wanted to, which is exactly what Trump did. She said, according to an email reviewed by Reuters, that the independent counsel of the Inspector's General on Integrity and Efficiency, quote, has taken the position that these termination notices do not comply with the requirements set out in law and therefore are not effective. And Trump said, they'll be effective. I'm going to drag you out of your office kicking and screaming if I have to. and Trump did that to send the same kind of message he's been sending on all these fronts.
Starting point is 00:42:24 He's not bluffing, except when he is. But he will follow through. The thing about bluffing is sometimes you've got to follow through. That's the only way you can have an effective bluff. Anyone who's played two games of poker in your entire life knows this. So sometimes you've got to follow through, and he does. And that's going to cause some chaos and consternation.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Walter Kern made a good point on social media, which is that we hear a lot about the peaceful transfer of power. The American tradition of the peaceful transfer of power, which President Trump so upended supposedly in 2020. They forget about all the riots and the setting cars on fire and the shrieking and the denial of the election from top Democrats in 2016. Forget about that. But Trump threatened the peaceful transfer of power for the first.
Starting point is 00:43:16 first time ever. Well, Walter Kern made the point that there's a difference between the peaceful transfer of power and changing shifts at your job. That what we've called the peaceful transfer of power, the shift in power from, I don't know, Reagan to Clinton, Clinton to Bush, Bush to Obama, that that was less a transfer of power than it was just a shift change. Okay. That, that yeah, there were different kind of policy desires, but the fundamental understanding of the political order really was the same. In many ways, I actually forgot about George Bush the first,
Starting point is 00:43:58 from Reagan to Bush to Bush to Clinton to Clinton to Bush to Bush, to Obama. They all basically shared the same underlying philosophy. Not so with Trump. Adrian Vermeul, the legal theory, at Harvard pointed to the distinction between formal and material transfer of power. That you can have two guys, one wearing a red tie, one wearing a blue tie, and they have a formal transfer of power at the inauguration. But if they all agree on the basics, it's kind of just
Starting point is 00:44:34 formal. But if you have one guy who's wearing a red tie and one guy who's wearing a jean jacket and tank top. Maybe that's not so much a formal transfer of power as a material transfer. You're actually going to be getting something different in your government now. That's probably what's going on with Trump. And material transfers of power
Starting point is 00:44:59 are not that peaceful. The 1860 election. Not so peaceful, that transfer of power. The elections of, well, I don't even even Jackson's election was a was that was a little bit rowdy the the 1960s got pretty pretty rowdy 2016 got pretty rowdy a how many times have we really had the peaceful transfer of power
Starting point is 00:45:29 unclear good point brought up by them to show that we are actually seeing a shift in the political order in the United States now speaking of a shift is one it's a minor point but it's a point that I do want to make. Kanye West is back on Twitter. Kanye West is back on Twitter. I said, oh no, here we go. What's he going to be tweeting about? First tweet I saw. I speak in third person from now on. I speak. I, first person, speak in third person from now on. That's a funny tweet. That's a delightful little tweet. Kamala seems like a very nice human. I just want to say sorry to her kids. She doesn't have any kids. That's a, that's a,
Starting point is 00:46:14 odd, funny little tweet. F reading and anyone who can do it. That's a great. He's suggesting, of course, that he cannot, but he wrote in language. So it's just a funny, delightful little when I saw this. Now, I know Kanye then showed up to the Grammys and stripped his wife down to her skimmies and I know, you know, that was, but I'm just talking about the Twitter. He returned to Twitter. It wasn't a bunch of Jew stuff. It wasn't a bunch of porn. It wasn't a bunch of the Disreputable stuff. It was just funny Kanye
Starting point is 00:46:50 posts. Just a sense, even down to the tweets that we're back. You know, we're back. Something is just a fog. Myasma has lifted off the country. We can breathe again. We're giddy. We're brimming with
Starting point is 00:47:06 joy, to use a phrase from Kamala. I cannot get enough of it. Now, of course, our genius political scientist, So I should be clear about that. Not political scientists like nerds with statistics, but scientists in lab coats who are actually very political, they tell us that the doomsday clock is closest to midnight,
Starting point is 00:47:27 closer than it has ever been. So something to consider while we talk about building up new resort casinos in Gaza, they say that things have never been any worse. But I don't know. I look around, things seem to be improving. There is no member block today because I have to go on Pierce Morgan's show. So very sorry to have to do that to you, but it's always a delight to go on Pierce Morgan's show, so I thought you would forgive me. I will be back tomorrow. In the meantime,
Starting point is 00:47:56 get your candles. Lent is coming up, and we do have the smells and bells candle back. It's called Wise Man, and we sold out. You know, we had to make some changes a little bit, but it's fabulous. If you want to get it, get it right now at the candleclub.com. And of course, go to Mayflower's ugorsac.com. Get you beautiful Mayflower's eye carlo. We might be sold out of these, actually, but If we're not sold out, you should get the remaining ones that exist. 21 years or older. Some exclusions apply. Much more to talk about tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:48:21 See you then.

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