The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 167 - The Smoke-And-Mirrors Left

Episode Date: June 13, 2018

This is a really big day. I’m honored. I’d like to thank the Academy. The Southern Poverty Law Center has named a video I did for Prager University, in which I attack the Alt-Right, the “most egregious” PragerU video of all-time. Then, actor and comedian Tom Arnold will stop by to talk about his new show on Vice, which focuses on that strangely elusive Russian golden showers tape Democrats insisted they had on Donald Trump. We’ll discuss how sorry it is that Democrats have nothing to run on but smoke and mirrors. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is a really big day. I am honored. I would like to thank the Academy. The Southern Poverty Law Center has named a video I did for Prager University, in which I attacked the alt-right, the most egregious Prager You video of all time. Thank you. It's an honor. Meanwhile, the left is breathlessly reporting frivolous nonsense.

We will analyze some of that, but only later in the show. Because first, and I'm also honored to have this, actor and comedian Tom Arnold, will stop by to talk about his new show. on Vice, which focuses on that strangely elusive Russian golden showers tape Democrats have insisted they have on Donald Trump. We will discuss how the Democrats are running on smoke and mirrors. I'm Michael Knowles, and this is the Michael Knowles show. All right, let's get right into it. We have Tom here. Vice is doing a new show delving into the issue Americans really care about most, whether there is a video of Russian hookers urinating on a bed in Donald Trump's hotel room.

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That elusive golden showers tape from the long discredited Democrat-funded steel dossier. Here is the trailer. Donald Trump saying, quote unquote, grab them by the pussy. You're talking about 16-year-old girls in their underwear here, okay? spewing racial slurs on the set of celebrity apprentices. Trump denies any involvement with prostitutes. Don't worry.

Tom Arnold is on it. And I'm Tom Arnold. Tom, thank you for being here. That was strange. Well, here's my first question. Because as with many things in the broom closet of the Ben Shapiro show, you'll fix it in post. Right. My first question for you, this is a show as people will have seen now in post-production.

Yeah. This is a show. Let me explain something to you, young man. A golden shower is, there's a difference between a golden shower and a, and also between a hooker and a model. So that's a red herring, sir. Okay. There was no golden shower.

There was a model urinating on a bed because Donald Trump doesn't like Barack Obama. Would you agree that Donald Trump doesn't like Barack Obama? I would agree that half the people in this room don't like Barack Obama because we were very lucky to have Vice joining us today to be filming this report of the show. Usually it's 100% of the people in the room. Have you ever had someone urinate on a bed because you don't? like Barack Obama. Is that the level of dislike for Barack Obama that you have? Well, it never occurred to me. My level of dislike for Barack Obama was such that I would even vote for Mitt Romney

to get rid of Barack Obama. Well, that's interesting. My first question, this whole thing is about this text. By the way, I just interviewed David Corn. Yeah. And because of him and his dang tape recording having that waiter tape record, Mitt Robney, we can be in the second term of Mitt presidency right now. That's true. You're right. That is true. David Corr gave us Donald Trump. He gave us Donald Trump. Do you have the tape? Do you have the Russia urination on the bad Barack Obama tape? I'm 100% sure it exists. How are you sure? You don't have it yourself. I don't have it myself, but I'm also sure the steel dossier is 100% real. But even Democrats now are saying that steel dossier is, I mean, we know demonstrably some of it isn't true. First of all, can we agree on one thing?

Democrats are idiots? Can we agree with that? Not all of them, but you know. Right, right. Once the cameras go off. Not all of them. Not all of them. And Republicans are morons.

Can we agree with that? I can agree with the first part more easily than the second part. Let me say something about Donald Trump. And I love the way you talk about him. You talk about him like a second grader talks about Santa Claus to toddlers. You're like, guys, come on. He doesn't go to every house on Christmas Eve. That's a story.

Yeah. The story. But yet, I'm going to tell you about Donald Trump. He is outside of Macy's telling everyone he goes to every house of Christmas Eve. He really does that. He's that crazy. Well, he has been giving us wonderful gifts since he was inaugurated. In that way, I think he's like Donald Trump. Like for his. Santa Claus. This is my question. So you don't, you don't have the tape, but you're sure it exists. Yeah. Well, I lived in the Moscow Ritz. They do tape everything you do there. Of course they do. That goes without saying. And it's kind of funny how they do it. They brag about there are technological advancements at the Moscow Ritz.

And the irony there is because they're recording everything you're doing. Right. But we know. Did you know that he went to a pee-pee party the summer before in Las Vegas? And he went to a pee-pee show. And I have a picture of him doing that the summer before that. Do you, so you're making- Insoc, Michael Isikov, in their book, there's a picture of him doing that.

So the groundwork was laid. He went to a show where a woman peed into a champagne flute. There's a picture of him doing that the summer before this. But here's the thing, Tom. Russian roulette's the name of the book. You love books. Please read that book. I read them.

I write them. I don't use words. Yeah, you do. I know that's so funny, the book you wrote with. Thank you very much. It's funny. So you're making a lot. What a waste of paper.

Trees and stuff. Trees are an organic, renewable resource. I'm saving the environment by printing that book. Otherwise, it'll turn in the parking lots. You have amazing hair, son. You're going to make me blush. You make a lot of these claims that the tape exists. The Democrats have been looking for this tape.

We know the Democrats funded that steel. dossier. We know a lot of it has been discredited. Specific points. Did the Republicans started? I know the Democrats really funded a lot of it. We know that both Republicans and Democrats have used fusion GPS for opposition research. Totally fine. But the steel dossier, but the steel dossier, are you saying it's not accurate? The steel dossier? Absolutely, it's not accurate. We know that how do you, what's not accurate? I'll go through, I'll go through points by point. So in the steel dossier, this is quoting from the steel dossier. The Russian regime has been cultivating, supporting, assisting Trump for at least five years. Aim endorsed by Putin has been to

encourage splits and divisions in the Western Alliance. Now, that would bring it back to 2011. It can't be true. But what's going on right now? By the way, what about the news this week with our alliances and the G7 and what's going on with Trump and Canada? The split is not true about that. Literally with what Trudeau and Trump and our alliances and what's going on in Germany is absolutely true.

All of our allies, we're not getting along with them. We're getting along very well. with them. So North Korea and Putin and China and not our allies anymore. Our allies are still. That's exactly what's happening, brother. Under the Obama administration, our allies paid far less for their involvement in NATO. Oh, is that what? Seriously. Yeah. Is that what really? Even though both Barack Obama and his predecessor encouraged our allies in NATO to actually pay their fair share. So that's really what it's about. Yes, it's about us working together with our allies, which we're doing.

Okay, that's good news to know. You know, Donald Trump is so much. That is what's happening. That doesn't matter. They didn't say anything about there's nothing to steal dossier about, oh, they're going to pay more money. Those words you just read are happening right now in real time. Well, here's a, okay. Here's some pretty strange ones.

So here's another line from the steel dossier. Okay. It alludes to the existence of a Russian dossier or compromise on Hillary Clinton is confirmed by source B. She or he confided in a trusted compatriot that it had been a collated. by Department K of the FSB for many years. Except the Directorate K, which is an infamous part of Russian intelligence, doesn't do intelligence on foreign leaders.

SVR does, FAPSI does, but not Directorate K. So it just doesn't add up. Okay, first of all, I'm not even sure what you just said, but if they got something about Hillary, get it. Because get her, and she should not be president anymore. That means nothing. The first thing you read is absolutely true, because there is, everything you said,

our allies, you see what's going on. You're saying that Russia predicted in 2011 that Donald Trump could become the president of the United States. Vladimir Putin being the only person on earth who predicted that Donald Trump could be the president of the United States? No, when Donald Trump called, said that Barack Obama was not born here. He started the birthed campaign in 2011. People rose up and supported him.

Did anybody seriously think that he would become the president in 2011? I know in 2013, would Vladimir Putin call his room in Moscow, Ritz Carlton and Donald Trump put that call on a speaker phone and some people I know that were with the the Miss Universe contest and he said to everybody I want you to be the president we will support you anyway we can't but this is the problem Tom you hear all the time well he is the president and this is happening so yeah so let's stick in the moment here but here's the problem the question has has been we have these tapes then it was well we don't have these tapes but someone has he just cited with he gave stuff to North Korea that's just

He's unprecedented. What did he give to North Korea? He said, okay, no more war exercises. When is the war game scheduled? The war game's not scheduled. No, but you heard his words. You heard his word. I know you're coming for Santa Claus.

Like, Santa didn't really mean that. Tom, when is that war game scheduled for? It's not scheduled for a full year. You're being practical. You should be the president, but you're not, for real. I got the smart guy. I got the Tom Arnold's an investment for president. No, but he's out of his mind.

I know, first of all, I know him. I've been to the Playboy Mansion with him. I was the creepy guy. I've known in 30 years. I wish you're president. You're a president. analytical kid. You know, I'm glad you're around, you know, but he's insane, okay? But I wonder, we always hear he's stupid, he's insane from people who know him.

He's exactly as he was 30 years ago. But he keeps being successful. And this is my real question. Wait a minute. Is he successful? We are losing everything. He every day we risk losing everything. There's people propping him up. I'm not saying you. I'm saying you're like, oh, no, what he really means? No, he is that bat-shit crazy. But look at the actual facts on the ground. The actual facts are, he is a, let me tell me. He's a straight-up racist. Look at his policies.

Look at his policy. What policy is racist? They are ripping people from the mothers, children from their mothers at the borders. It's not, it's a policy. They're deporting illegal aliens. No, no, no, but there's a cruelty to it. But it's not. But what's the racist?

Michael. Where's the racist? Because it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's. brown people. I'm telling you, just paying... Brand people are crossing the border from Mexico, that's true. But do you think if it were white people crossing the border that they wouldn't be deported? That we shouldn't enforce immigration law? I'm telling you, there's something about it. I'm telling you that it's there for

countries. I'm telling you there is a difference. There is a difference. Are you saying Haiti is some lovely metropolis that we should be able to? I get what you're doing. The point is. I know the guy too. I spent time with the guy. It is different. There's no reason to rip babies from their mothers, period. Anywhere, anywhere that, there's no. So you're saying there's no father. Are you, no, no, no, there's different. That's a different. That's a red herring. That's different. It's different. How's that different? We're talking about deporting illegal aliens. We're Americans. We don't do that. We're better than that. We don't enforce our immigration. No, no. We have humanity.

There are ways to do things and we're better than that. But don't you think that Americans have a right to determine who gets to come in out of the country and use our taxpayer-funded services? That's right. And commit crimes in the United States? And we can do it the American way because we're better than that. What's the American way? With humanity and with respect. So you're saying don't deport illegal aliens? Oh, I'm saying you do.

You absolutely do. So you do it the right way, the American way. And you treat people with respect and you treat people well and you don't rip people apart. And you don't use that. You know, that's how. You're talking about those images of the kids in the cages and all that kind of stuff. No, no. I'm talking about literally what they're doing.

Right, but Barack, Baroque, although there are you a father? Well, it's a big country and it's a wise man who knows who his father is, but none that I know of. No, I said, you're not a father. Well, if you were, just if you were, and I am, imagine your son being taken from you. If you can imagine that feeling. Yeah, I don't want my son to cross illegally into another country too. Okay. And I wouldn't do it on his behalf.

No, no, but you don't understand. What's your parent? You'll understand. There's something inside of you. Well, I'm not going to illegally enter another country so that I don't raise myself. I get it. I'm sorry, and I don't need to be disrespectful to you, or you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, okay? Until you're a parent, what's your apparent, you know, you can't even imagine.

I know plenty of parents who oppose illegal immigration. Yeah, there's, you absolutely oppose, there's just a humane way of doing things. Do you think that the people who voted for Donald Trump, half the country, that they're racist, deplorable, irredeemable? No, I don't think. But they voted for a racist. I can't possibly. They voted for racist policies according to. But that would be as bad as being you and saying, oh, it's about making a blanket statement

like, oh, you can't deport illegal aliens. No, humanity. You have to have humanity, especially when you have to think about where the earth is one planet, okay? Do you believe in God, for instance? Yes. Okay. Then take a step back.

If you believe in God, so you think God is like, deport people, deport people, no humanity. No humanity, Michael Doles. No humanity. hold him. No, he better. These are the laws. The God is God is God of perfect justice and perfect mercy, which is very difficult for us, but we know from St. Paul's epistles that the civil authority is endowed with a right to enforce the law. Isn't that right? That's all of the Jewish. Render, render unto Caesar. Tell me about mercy. Tell me about the mercy at the border of taking babies from their mothers intentionally to be punitive, to be punitive. And these mothers

are escaping domestic violence to get to America, the land of the free, the home of the brain, just to get an opportunity to save their children's lives. And tell me about Jesus, and I saw the Jesus documentary that Mark Burnett made, or the series. You want to read the book, it's a good book. Right, well, I've read the first chapter or the first part. Let me say something. What would Jesus think about all this?

For real. What would Jesus think about the civil government enforcing the law? Well, I'll take it from his apostle that it is perfectly right for the civil government to enforce the law. Hold on what do you think about these money guys, these billionaires? Well, I don't know how many billionaires there were at the time. Here, let's talk with this for you, let's talk with your heart for a second. Babies being yanked from their mother.

It's just, is there not a better way to do this? What is the better way? I mean, first of all, we're not deporting little babies and sending them, letting the mothers stay. Let me just say this. They said, the babies go to Honduras, but the mothers stay in America. That's not what happens. No, but babies go to Chicago. Don't tell what the mother's where they are.

It's not acceptable. Listen, we can do better. We have the most charitable immigration regime in the entire world. No, no, no. No, no, we don't. You run this better than they do down there. You know where that monitor is? You got a better crew here. People, listen, they don't know what they're doing down there yet. We apprehend over a thousand people a day crossing illegal into this country at the border. And as Donald Trump correctly says, bringing drugs and bringing drugs and bringing in crime. We bred a hormel meatpacking plant better. They don't know what they're doing yet.

Let's tell you, they just changed the policy. They don't have things set up. They don't have housing set up. We knew we had hog refinement facilities better than they do down there. We have housing in their own countries. Are you going to put, you don't know. I'm telling you you haven't been there. I'm telling you, they have people down there.

I've been down to the border. Now they're talking about setting up tents. It's a freaking 100 degrees here. They don't have things set up. Tom, do you know what makes that so hard? We apprehend a thousand people. They're kids. They're human beings.

Hold on. They're human beings. We would not allow our port. and cattle to be treated like this right now because legally you can't you have to have certain kind of facilities right now they're just saying well we got somebody how many people that we apprehended the border every day do we just send right back to their country as as probably we should do you know how many people we do that you ever have zero people do you know what policy for a second and I know the bleeding heart liberals I know it can be bullshit I know they're way over the fucking top but for a

second and can you not think that way because you think it would be going against Trump for a second Can you not go in a humanity? I think Americans have a right to their own democratically enacted laws, bipartisan laws to decide who comes in and who comes out. We have the highest rates of immigration until recently because it's dropped under Donald Trump. But we have the highest percentage of foreign-born population in American history since 1890. Under the best of circumstances, assimilation is difficult. Under these sort of circumstances, it's virtually impossible.

80% of women and girls who cross the border. You know, Italians. You know, 18. Excuse me, Tom. Let me finish this point. Hold on. No, no. Think about this.

We hated Italians. Everybody hated Italians. Americans did not want Italians here. They were like, no, no. They were scorn. They were the scum of the earth. You probably don't remember this. Your parents, your grandparents would tell you about this.

They did not want Italians here. And just read the history. I know you've read books. And they were scorn. And they were looked down upon. And it was awful. Tom. It was awful. According to Amnesty International and the Huffington Post, not exactly right-wing outlets, between 60 and 80% of women and girls who cross the border illegally are raped and sexually

assaulted. What is compassionate or merciful or humanitarian about encouraging a regime, encouraging human traffickers who bring those women and girls across the border and rape them along the way? That's a red herring. It's a red herring. It's a red herring. It's a red herring. It's a red herring. But it's what we do when they get to the border to rip their children apart. We need to take That's our policy to scare them to go back. We're going to take their children for them. Tom, I don't think there's a federal statute to rip children away from them. No, no, it's a policy.

Will you look into it for me? Will you? Will you? I, uh, will you? I, uh, if it's a, will you? If it's a federal policy to rip children away from their mothers. To take the children away from their parents. To, there has been suicides of the parents because they couldn't find their children.

Well, there, when people do get to the border, They do have to be processed. That is certainly true. There's no national policy to rip children away from their kids. There's a four-month-old child that was taken from her mother yesterday. Will you at least investigate this with me? Horrible things happen because of illegal immigration. That's why we need to stop illegal immigration.

Okay, so you're not denied it as true. No, I'm actually saying it's much worse than you are saying it is. I'm saying illegal immigration causes many, many more problems than you are saying it is, which is why we need to cut off all incentives for it and enforce our immigration laws and have people follow. But we could do better. We could do better. Well, it's easy to say these slogans, right? And it's easy for this innuendo.

This is the question that I want to get to. Because right now, the economy's going gangbusters. It's doing better than it ever has. Black unemployment is at historic loads. For rich people, for corporations, for, you know, whatever. Everybody just got a tax cut. The economy is doing very well. No, no, come on.

You know that. It's not doing very well. The stock market. You can say that, but it's never the last. You got to be here. Facts don't care about your feelings. Yeah, yeah. Black unemployment at historic list.

But your feelings, these people, you still got to care about people. But at the end of the day, this is reality. This is reality. It's not your reality, but you know, you're responsible. But there's only one reality, Tom. No, no. Oh, no, that's not true. And you have to accept there are other realities.

If you think your reality is the only one, you're full. I think we've explained the Democrat-Republican divide. No, no, there's not even Democrat-Republic. Well, there's one big reality. Well, Trump, you're, you're, you're, you're a defendant guy who's, who's, he's, complete alternate reality. Donald Trout. I think he lies every day, 50 times a day, and then you explain it for us.

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I don't think he's in. When have I ever said he's infallible? I say he's a very fallible man. Okay, Dave, one thing that he's absolutely lied about. That he, well, I think Donald Trump talks like a New Yorker. So I'll give you an example. Oh, that gives him it out. Well, no, but it's a real knowledge. Okay, give me an example. So the example is this. Donald Trump says we have, you know, oh, we had the biggest. crowds ever for this. We had 60,000 people at such and such a rally. Now, in reality, maybe the rally only had 30 or 40,000 people. I'm willing to acknowledge that. The way New Yorkers talk is a hyperbolic. He goes out, he says, you know, this is the most tremendous thing that's ever happened

in the history of the world. Maybe it's not the most tremendous thing that's ever happened, but it's a hyperbole and it leads into an exuberance. I don't think that's the kind of lie is saying, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, which the former president, So that's the one like, the 3,000 lies, you don't think that man has straight up lied to the American people. What does he lied about? Everything. He is like when he said, my rich friends are really bad about this tax break. Of course, it will not help them.

It raised taxes on people in New York and Los Angeles on me and on people in the highest income bracket. It raised taxes on them. Yeah. It raised taxes on you. It raised taxes on you. It did, but all the trillion, because he hates me, all the millions of dollars. You should like me. They're coming back into this country.

Yeah. They're overseen. We have repatriated money from this country. The trillions of dollars. We've repatriated jobs as well. We know this. There's a new announcement every week. My family will not benefit.

They have not going to benefit from me. Well, you won't because you're too rich, Tom. I won't benefit either. His family. His family. Ivanka. Jared. They will not benefit from working in my administration.

How have they benefited? $82 million dollars last year. That family benefited. Well, yeah, the Trump organization is still an operation. Sure. The Trump organization is still making money. They personally made. How much money did Barack Obama have going into the presidency and leaving the presidency?

Did he have more or less? Barack Obama was the freaking president of the United States. He wasn't a small senior advisor. How much, okay, let me ask this. How many times of Barack Obama golf? And how many times did you complain about it? I don't mind. I never complain about the golf.

You know who did? Donald Trump. And Donald Trump said, I will never golf. He's golfed 10 times more. Do you ever call him out on his, how many times he calls other people out on it? This is actually getting to the central point of your TV show and my criticism of the premise of the TV. Well, here's the central point. Here's the central point.

I don't trust him negotiating anything for us. I think that Donald Trump is a Russian asset. I don't think he knows it. What's your evidence of it? I don't think he knows it. What's your evidence? He is in love with Putin. He has, he has, Putin does have something on him.

What is your evidence of that? He won't let us investigate. He won't let us follow through. They meddled in our election. He's done everything. How did they meddle in the election? They spent $100,000 on Facebook ads for one digital company. Do you not listen to our own intelligence?

What intelligence are you referring to? Because I'm citing the $100,000 of Facebook ads. You aren't privy to it because it's the NSA, the CIA, and the FBI. They've shared all that with Donald Trump. But how did they meddle specifically? Because it's easy to use these big in your end. I'd love to tell you, except I'm not privy to it either. Well, I can tell you.

They have 100% certainty has shared that with the people that. I can tell you how the Russians meddled in the election. And by the way, they fixed the election for Donald Trump. It's not like they just spent $100,000. They fix. How did they think they like? He's an illegitimate president and he knows it. And that's why he's fighting this.

He is not the president. He doesn't deserve to be the president. Tom. It's in, he is not the president. He's an illegitimate president. I know. Everything he accused Barack Obama of, that's him.

He's not the president. He took all our health insurance away? I don't think he did that. That's another thing. He is trying to take people's health insurance away just because Barack Obama gave it to them. Tom, I liked my doctor and I didn't get to keep my doctor. You want to know what? And he's going to do it again in 18.

And Donald Trump's going to make sure he doesn't stop him. He's not protecting our ballot boxes, our voting machines. What are you talking about? He's going to let Russia do it again. Donald. Listen, the Senate had a hearing yesterday, and they're freaked out about it because he's not doing anything about it. That bothers me. Voting is a basic tenant of our people.

That's why Republicans are trying to protect the integrity of the ballot box. Why didn't they show up for that Senate hearing? Republican senators did not show up because they're beholding Donald Trump. Hey, Tom, if you want to protect the integrity of the ballot box, do you think that people should have to show an ID to vote? I think you should protect us from Russia, number one, not from Americans.

Protect us from outside. Listen to John McCain. That's usually not great advice. Is John McCain, really? Really? I'll take five of Donald Trump. I know. He's a patriot.

Much prefer John McCain to conservative Republicans. That's true. That's very true. Hey, buddy, if you're not taking John McCain as a patriot, a man has stood up there. Yeah, he's a patriot. He's a patriot. Yeah. But I don't like his political views.

Really? I don't. I think he wanted to gut the first. Well, I'll tell you what, when the goal gets tough and the guy says, you know, here's the line versus outside forces, it's John McCain. It got has proved it every time better than you or me or Donald Trump, who's put himself on the line for this country. It's John McCain, okay? Yes. Forget politics.

He served admirable. Yes. True. Beyond served admirably. He did. to say. Served admirably. Holy shit. He lived in a cage for five and a half years. Yeah, extremely

admirably, sure. But that doesn't mean that his political views have much stock. I'm not talking about he's an American patriot that put himself on the line. And this is what it's like, because they're going to screw around with our vote is the important thing. And you're about, oh, don't, you want to take away votes. Oh, you got to show it. I want to take away

legal votes. I'm talking about Russia. And I want to out of our election. But Tom. What are you doing to keep them out of our election? You want to keep people of color from voting by IDs or old people? When have I ever suggested? You want to make it harder for people to vote? I want to make it harder for Russians to vote.

You know, Tom, that is a real accusation. You're saying I'm like to get black people for voting. Well, you see what the, what the, you see how many people can't vote. You said it, Tom. Okay, who do you not want to vote? Americans? I don't want Russians to vote. Well, really, I don't want Democrats to vote for a right.

Right, okay. But I think everybody has the right to vote. Everybody has the right to vote. But why are you trying to stop Americans voting? Stop Russians from voting. Tom, I want people who have the right to vote to be able to vote, and I want people who don't have the right to vote to not be able to vote. But it's like, but it's such a stupid thing. Like two people out of a billion vote more than once. That's, you're making a big deal out of it.

You think there are two illegal votes cast every year. I think you're looking at here. Look over there. Stop Russians from voting. Put your energies to that. This is a bull-and-arguent argument. You know, you're spending all you're trying to try to get Democrats so they can't vote so you get your Republicans in office. No, no, I want them to be able to vote. I don't. I'd prefer to they vote. No, you just want to suppress black people and Republicans votes. That's what you do. You know, that's a big accusation. It's a fact. It's an absolute fact. know it. What is your evidence? Facts. Look at facts. How many 20, look at, look at, Tom. It's a fact. Look at Ohio. How many people you stop from voting. There are people of color because they are

Democrats. You're right. Tom, you're just saying things that are fantasies. No, no, I'm saying they're facts. Why don't you stop Russians voting? Put your, be an American. I don't think a lot of Russian national. Political. I think, I don't think a lot of Russian nationals voted in our last election. I don't think anybody suggests that. But they were here campaigning. They were here pretending to be. They were lobbying. Hillary Clinton to purchase 20% of the America in production of uranium. That's true. When are you going to do the special... Even Fox disprove that.

Disproved what? The Shepherd Smith, I'll send you the clip on... What did that disprove? That quit, Red Herring. What did Fox... That's a... Red Herry. You know that.

Tom, you can interrupt and distract and use profanity all you want. It doesn't change... Can you use profanity? Well, we'll edit it in post. I'm sorry. We'll edit it. But Tom, you can distract and you can change the subject and you can interrupt all you want that doesn't change the reality of the situation.

Do you know Sergio Milan is? He's a source D in the Christopher Steele. I'm supposed to find out if you know who he is. Source. Well, there's a guy who's in the room for the peepee stuff. So the Steele dossier, because we've been talking about the steel dossier. Yeah, thank you. The Steele dossier paid for by Democrats and lied about by Democrats and lied about by Democrats.

What do you mean they lied? They lied about their involvement in it. But it's all true. It's all true. But we know that some of it's been disproved. We know that we know that it's been disproved. By who? No, you can't say that. It's been true to prove it. I'll keep going now.

I'll prove it. I'll prove it. I'll prove it. That's great. We're going to keep going on this stuff. We'll really prove it. Do you think Christopher Seals a hero? This guy came to the aid of the United States. I think he's a foreign interloper interfering in our elections. They're called allies. We called out. You know our greatest allies?

So who do you think our allies are? Jean Kim Eel or whatever? Kim Jong-un? Little Rocket Man? No, seriously, who do you think our allies are? I'm, our allies are our allies. We have a lot of allies around the world. Oh, I suppose Italy. I'll use my own heritage for a moment.

France really likes us now. The French Premier Emmanuel Macron loves Donald Trump. But he also said Donald Trump, don't be, do you give any state to this week? Hey, buddy, back up. Israel is an ally of ours. They're very happy with us now because Barack Obama turned on our ally. Barack Obama isn't in the news. He doesn't ever say anything.

Why do you dogged him? Why is it about that guy? What is it that you guys feel you can't blame it stuff on him? What is he, what's different about him? He was a terrible, terrible president who damaged the country immensely. That's why we keep talking about it. No, I think there's something else about him. There's something about him that you don't like.

He was a far left-wing Democrat who damaged the country, who destroyed a sixth of the economy, who had the worst economic recovery since the great depression. You're aware of the economy when he took over. Will you give him that? Because you know facts. You remember the economy when Barack Obama took over. There was a financial crisis. No, no, no.

Don't, don't. And he had the worst recent since the Great Depression. It was almost a depression. We'd been in two wars. Give him that. Give him that. Well, you know, he... No, give him that.

It is true that the vast majority of deaths, American soldier deaths in Afghanistan occurred under Barack Obama's watch. Because he was a wartime president. Listen, don't be... But also... ...created more wars in the Middle East. Come on. Come on, your smart kid. Give him this, too.

He was the first black American president. You remember that. That's a big deal of this country. This country... What you're saying is the people who oppose Barack Obama are racist. That's what you're saying. No, no. But this country had slavery on him.

Give them that. We've been through a lot in this country. We had, there was slavery in America. No, that's a big deal. Acknowledge that that's a big deal. And we went through Jim Crow. And we threw it through, acknowledge that. Don't, don't overlook it. Who denies that slavery was a bad thing?

But you have to acknowledge that we went through a lot. So it was a big deal for all of us that when he was elected. I wish he'd been a good president. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. Take a moment. Because you seem like an a, you talk like that. To just jump over that.

When I mentioned that he was a terrible president? No, no, to not take a beat and go, you know, that's a big deal. And he did, you know, there's a huge economy, to take just one side and go, the economy was in the crapper. He was, he was awful around the board. He lied to Americans repeatedly. He was terrible on foreign affairs. He was terrible on domestic affairs. That's a very sad thing that the first black president was so awful.

Hold on. You need to take a beat. You need to take a beat. All right, I'm going to take a beat and do one last ad. And then we'll get back into the last, last segment of this. What's the ad for? Your ads are better than your phone show, man. I love your ads, though.

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or TV shows about the terrible foreign affairs or the TV shows about all the terrible oppression going on in the country because they couldn't none of that is happening all we're seeing shows on are stormy daniels the porn star and the the elusive tapes from a long discredited dossier and the this and the that where you know and and oh i heard he said a bad word on tape or this or that isn't that just because democrats are distracting from how everything is going tickety boo You know, I guess we're all just going about our business. You guys are making shows. You know, you guys are hitting the same beat, too.

You just are going about... But we're not making up stories. Well, you're pretending they don't exist. You're just going over, you're just kind of going up here. There are a lot of stories. Tom, show me the tape of the Russian models urinating on the bed, and then I'll say it's real. Show me the tape right now.

And, oh, no, I got to say for it. It's going to be on my show, but it does exist. But you have, so now you're saying you do have the tape. I'm saying it exists 100%. I'm saying there's, I'm saying that, I'm saying that, I'm saying that, hold on. I'll tell you what you're going to see. If you don't think Trump says the head word, if you don't think Trump calls women all kinds of films up, you will see that. If that, we have the tape of Donald Trump saying the end word, do we have it. Can we play it? There are white . I've seen a lot of white in my time. I'm gonna use that word. Today our country has lost a true American original, my friend and mentor Robert C. Bird. There are white . Senator Byrd was a man of surpassing eloquence and nobility.

I've seen a lot of white in my time. I'm gonna use that word. Senator Byrd was a man of surpassing eloquence and nobility. Today our country has lost a true American original. My friend and mentor, Robert C. Bird. Guys, was that Donald Trump? Was that Donald Trump or was that former Senate majority leader Robert Byrd, the Democrat, whom Hillary Clinton referred to as her great friend and mentor?

Was that Trump? I think it was the Democrat. When are you going to do the story about this? This is an explosive term. Using the N-word. He's the N-word. He's Robert Byrd. Everybody's using the N-word.

You've never said the N-word? I weren't going to beat Paget Plan. You probably heard these words. I heard these words. Of course I have heard these words. From Iowa. Who has it? My next door neighbor's dog was named the N-word. People were like, of course.

Are you going to, so are you defending Donald Trump for allegedly using a racial slur in an alleged video that nobody's seen? Are you defending him now because everybody said it? Yeah, I'm on its whole show. I defend Donald Trump and say Donald Trump, why? Here's him saying the N-word. Why? Of course he said it. It seems, Tom, it seems hypocritical. When you look at Robert Byrd and Hillary Clinton using, and you yourself say everybody's used these. You realize she's not the president, though. You can't take your doubt.

Thank you. Good Lord. That's wonderful. But she's not the president because of Donald Trump. Do you feel totally confident that he will not get us in some sort of war? I think he has been incredible on foreign affairs. You think he will not get us in a war, Michael? I'm telling you, I've asked you serious.

Do you think that one military soldier will die because of it? No, I'm serious. Worse happened all the time. I mean, and we can't decide them, right? No, the war on terror, we thrust on us. But I care, you know, I don't think they'll get us in. I've been to Afghanistan, I've been to Iraq, I've been all the places, I talk to the families, I do a lot of service work in that area.

Yeah. Do you feel comfortable telling the servicemen and women and their families, America, that that guy has got it together enough to not risk the lives of any man and woman? Well, the military risks their lives to defend the country. And the tax happen on us. Do you feel 100% that he's confident? I am 100% confident that he is a much more competent commander in chief than we've seen in recent years and certainly more so than Barack Obama.

I'm 100% confident of that, confident. Do you feel he's 100% competent? Yes, I do. I think if you just look at how his handling, we know that ISIS has been utterly militarily demolished. We're seeing some progress being made on the Korean situation. It's the first inning, but it's being made. That's pretty good.

We're seeing our allies finally coming around and cooperating with international agreements. We're seeing countries like China who have violated World Trade Organization treaties for years finally coming to the table and negotiating. We're seeing the IMF, the International Monetary Fund, saying that Donald Trump is responsible for the surge in the global economy. I am totally confident in this president, shocking as it is to say, on his handling of foreign affairs. Absolutely. And I see no evidence to the contrary.

If you were a father, you might take pause before saying that. I would just tell you. How would, because. I would change. I would say, okay, I'm not going to ignore those facts? No, no. It would be, again, but like the thing at the border, with the kids being taken away from parents, it would be more personal. But it wouldn't change reality.

It does change reality. What's your apparent? Reality changes. Tom, we have actually hit on it. I've got to let you go because I know you've got a busy day. But this, we have actually hit on this. The difference here is I'm sitting here saying, look, there's only this one reality that's happening.

And you are literally saying right now, the personal is different than the reality. There's the subjective reality. There are multiple realities. That explains it. That explains the show. That explains the Democrat campaigns for the last two years. More than that.

Tom. All right. Great to have you on. Thank you so much, Phil. I appreciate it. I really, and I really have to say this, because this is a very fun conversation. No Democrats, no left-winger's ever come on my show,

and you agreed to come on my show. You're great. You're fantastic. You deserve something. All right, thank you very much. Good luck to you. All right, we've got to cut out of here before we get to all the rest of the news

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All right, we've got to get back into this. So I said this was, we're talking about a lot of smoke and mirrors here, all of the emotivism, all of the innuendo, not so much of the facts. Listen to this from the Southern Poverty Law Center, you know, because we could just call all the news today frivolous nonsense. So we're focusing on the Southern Poverty Law Center because they've named my little old me, my Prager You video, the most egregious Prager video of all time. And it's the video in which I attack the racist.

of the alternative right. But they're really upset. So here, so what is the Southern Poverty Law Center? It's this massively funded propaganda machine. It's just this leftist propaganda machine. That's all it is. They, you know, they have this patina of credibility because they have an interesting sounding name. They are nothing. They spent $10 million on fundraising in 2015, way more than they did on legal services. They transferred millions to offshore tax havens. They smeared the family research council, which is a pro-traditional family group, a gunman who shot up that counsel cited the influence of the Southern Poverty Law Center in his shooting. There was mob violence at Charles Murray's speech at Middlebury, a faculty member who was there cited Southern Poverty Law Center again as justification.

Two years ago, the FBI totally stopped citing SPLC as a source because it's so frivolous. Probably shouldn't have nonprofit status. Its founder is just a direct marketing guru, Morris Dees. He was actually inducted into the Direct Marketing Hall of Fame. civil rights activists, call him a con man. But he's so effective because all he does is rely on innuendo, just like we were talking about with Tom. It's that exact same. It's all, well, what do you? You don't think this exists? What, you, come on, don't you really think? It's all just innuendo. And so, ironically, the Southern Poverty Law Center has become a hate group. They're like against hate groups, and they've become a hate group. This is what they wrote about my video from the

Southern Poverty Law Center, quote, the most egregious of Prager used videos in Tripote's opinion is what is the alt-right, hosted by conservative internet talk show host Michael Knowles. The video posits that as an alternative to conservatism, the alt-right is most accurately compared with the left for three reasons. The left and the alt-right are obsessed with identity politics, both focus on group identity

rather than the individual, and both the left and the alt-right ultimately reject God. The video ends with Knowles declaring, in other words, the alt-right has nothing in common with conservatism and is in fact much closer to leftism, except of course that the left is much, much larger. That's all they wrote.

They said it's the most egregious video, and then they just quote my video. But they don't give any evidence for why it's egregious. They don't give any argument for why it's egregious. They make a blanket statement, and then they just fill it in with words. They just try to distract with frivolous nonsense, right? It's just these distractions. Well, don't you think the economy's doing well? Don't talk about the economy.

Talk about this imaginary video that everyone's been talking about. Well, don't you think the foreign affairs? No, don't talk about that. To talk about, right, it's all just distraction. And by the way, this is how Donald Trump won. I know it's become cliche to say this is how Donald Trump won or this is how Donald Trump won. This is actually how he won. Have you heard about the ongoing saga of Chick-fil-A?

So right, there was an article in the Huffington Post. It said, if you really love LGBTQ people, you just can't keep eating chick-fil-A. You can't. So if you really like gay people, you can't eat chicken sandwiches. And this is what the article says. I say, quote, if you care about queer people or you yourself are queer, you have absolutely no business eating at Chick-fil-A ever. It's really that straightforward.

And they dinged them because Chick-fil-A donates to the Salvation Army, which is Christian, and if it's Christian, then it's bad because it's not part of the pride movement or something. The politicization of everything is so tedious. This base innuendo that everybody who doesn't agree with you is a bigot or a racist or at this or that, you know, it's so tedious and it's so divisive. I mean, even, you know, the acronym LGBT is by definition divisive, right? Because it keeps dividing itself.

It's LGBTQ, LMNOP or something. It just keeps going on and on and on to divide into smaller and smaller interest groups. There isn't much of a common culture anymore. There isn't, you don't see a lot of common culture. We don't watch the same TV shows. You know, I am going to watch Tom Arnold's show because, you know, we had them on. But I suspect a lot of our audience probably isn't going to watch his show and it's not that we all watch different things Different movies different news different we read different books if we read it all we don't have a common religion

We don't even have a common traditional love of country and this is what makes Donald Trump appealing Because Donald Trump appeals to like the last remaining things that unite us I'm not saying this is a good thing or a bad thing I wish there was more that united us but he appeals to winning at least everybody should want winning, right? He appeals to good deals. We're going to get good deals, right? Okay, that appeals to all of us. Strength, peace, even football, right?

When football, at least you think that could unite all of us. And then that guy, Colin Kaepernick, tried to make that divisive as well and tried to protest against the symbol of America itself. And he called them out on it. People don't want that. This presidency, ironically, of Donald Trump, is essentially a call for unity, again, in its own very brash Trumpian way.

He says things like, we all have the same blood of patriots. We all bleed the same blood of patriots. What made Barack Obama so tedious, it was all just about poking his opponents, all just about dividing and dividing, talking about why men should use the little girl's bathroom and painting the White House in rainbow colors of light, right?

It's so just divisive. Writing off his countrymen as bitter clingers. I mean, listen to that. I asked Tom, I said, are you calling half the country racist? And he said, no, and then he called half the country racist that, you know, when you write off your countrymen as bitter clingers like Barack Obama did, or Hillary Clinton writes them off as deplorable and irredeemable, that people don't like that. You don't, you know, that's not aspirational, that's not inspired, that's just ugly and crass and

and base and divisive. And the good news for us is as long as our political opponents on the left, keep that up, I think things are going to look up for us. I mean, there's a real aspirational quality to this presidency and to this political moment. Bill Crystal, the erstwhile Republican commentator and conservative commentator, he said the Reagan years were aspirational, and Trump isn't. He's missing it. People are missing this. This is an aspirational moment of coming together, of succeeding,

of trying to bring North Korea to the table, and we had a good first inning. Hopefully it goes all the way to the end. This is a good moment, and the left is relying strictly on smoke and mirrors. It is all illusion and innuendo in smoke and mirrors. And it's best just to smack it down and to ignore it. All right, that's the rest of our show. It's going to be hard to beat that one.

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