The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1677 - Ukraine WAR Over? Trump Threatens Elections For Zelensky

Episode Date: February 20, 2025

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This is the Michael Knowles show. Welcome back to the show. Do children belong at weddings? The debate that has taken over social media. Really important. I mean, everything going on in the world, a really important question. And I'm sorry to say, many of my fellow conservatives are getting this question wrong. Can you imagine that the horror?

Ukraine might have to hold elections again, which is, of course, a grave threat to democracy. We're defending democracy over there, don't you know? We're sending hundreds of billions of dollars to Ukraine, which previously the media told me was one of the most corrupt countries in the world and infested with Nazis. But then after the Libs got all on board with the Ukraine war, then Ukraine was a sparkling example of Madisonian democracy, totally above board. basically the 51st state. And if we allow democracy to die in Ukraine, why there's no hope for it anywhere else in the world. And that's why it's so important that Ukraine not hold elections.

You know, Ukraine was supposed to hold elections a year ago, last spring. And they didn't do it. And President Trump is not pulling any punches here. So Newsweek reports, there are concerns that the Ukrainian president could be voted out of office if the country holds an election. Yeah, right. That might happen because that's what democracy does. And of course, I don't even want to rehash it. It's become trite and cliche at this point to observe that the Libs don't really care about democracy. They care about liberalism and leftism and progressivism. So when the people vote against liberalism and leftism and progressivism, they say it's a threat to democracy, even though that's an incoherent statement.

Now Zelensky is not doing himself any favors. Zelensky just came out. He said, no, unfortunately, President Trump, I have great respect for him as a leader of a nation, that we have great respect for the American people who always support us. Unfortunately, lives in this disinformation space. So there, I'll take out that parenthetical winding nonsense. He says, unfortunately, President Trump unfortunately lives in this disinformation space. translation from the Ukrainian. He's calling Trump a dummy. He's saying Trump doesn't understand the

reality. He's a stooge for propaganda from the Russians. Trump is a stooge. He doesn't know the real facts on the ground in Ukraine. He's just, he's ignorant. He believes a lot of things that are not so. Trump, as you might imagine, punched back. We have a situation where we haven't had elections in Ukraine. Well, we have martial law, essentially martial law in Ukraine, where the leader in Ukraine, I mean, I hate to say it, but he's down at 4% approval rating. You have leadership, and I like him personally. He's fine. But I don't care about personally. I care about getting the job done. You have leadership now that's allowed a war to go on that should have never even happened. That's right. Part of the problem here has been leadership. And I don't want to throw

all the blame on Zelensky. He doesn't deserve all the blame. In fact, I'm much more inclined to blame Joe Biden because the war broke out on his watch. And frankly, Joe Biden invited the war. He literally invited the war. People forget this. He said, if it's only a minor incursion by Russia into Ukraine, it's no big deal. But we have a leadership problem, okay? And it is not irrational for the Ukrainians to want to pick a new leader. At the very least, they should have that right, shouldn't they? Isn't that what this fight over democracy is all about? Now, Trump went a little further on truth social. He said, a dictator without elections, Zelensky better move faster. He's not going to have a country left. In the meantime, we are successfully negotiating an end to the war with Russia, something all admit only Trump and the Trump administration can do.

So the left is going to twist this. But what is he saying here? He says, if Zelensky doesn't move fast, he's not going to have a country left. That's not a threat from Trump. Trump isn't saying, I'm going to give your country away. that's an observation of what this war is doing to Ukraine. If Zelensky does not resolve this war, there is not going to be much of Ukraine left to defend. Because the U.S. grand strategy here, pushed by the liberal elites all the way up to Joe Biden, has been to keep the Ukraine war going as long as possible in order to degrade the Russian military. Degrade the Russian military as a euphemism for killing as many Russians as possible. And, in fairness, from the foreign policy grand strategy standpoint, the way that all the elite geniuses in Washington, D.C. are looking at it, is they're saying, look, we can kill a lot, hundreds of thousands of Russian soldiers.

Russia has military weapons pointed at us, has ICBMs pointed at us. So, you know, they're an adversary for many decades now. We can kill a ton of Russians, and we don't even need to risk our lives for it. Because the Ukrainians are going to do it for. us. So the cost of degrading the Russian military, slaughtering all the Russians, is going to be an entire generation of Ukrainians. But a small price for us to pay, we don't really care that much. So we're going to keep this war going as long as possible. It's not going to help Ukraine, really, in the long run, but at the very least it's going to hurt Russia and indirectly, that's going to help the United States. That is the grand strategy. That is the philosophy on the war in Ukraine. Some people are going to say, yeah, heck yeah, that's right, let's go for it. Some people are going to say that's kind of ghastly, and that might not actually fulfill the criteria requisite for a just war.

And actually, maybe blessed are the peacemakers. And actually, maybe President Trump should wind this thing down now. But the one thing I can tell you, whatever you want to say about elections during wartime, whatever you want to say about this potential peace deal as it's shaping up, Zelensky, in my view, has just proven that he deserves to be voted out of office. because he just did one of the stupidest things a leader of Ukraine could do, namely, pick a fight with Donald Trump in public. The only reason that this war is still going on is because the U.S. has been bankrolling it. This war would have been over about two weeks of the U.S. not back to Ukraine.

And this guy is going to now turn to the leader of the free world, to the guy leading the country that is the whole reason that Zelensky is still in power. And he's going to call him a dummy? Donald Trump, who has been known to hold a grudge or two? For that political incompetence alone, Zelensky probably should not be running Ukraine anymore. But he is blowing it. There's so much more to say first, though, go to done with debt.com. Do you wish that you could have jumped into last year's stock market boom? I get it.

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He did say later that Ukraine would have a seat at the table. Have you been given any assurances that Ukraine will have an equal seat at the negotiating table? So I will never accept any decisions between the United States and Russia about Ukraine. Never, and our people, never, and our adults and children and everybody. It can't be so. This is the war in Ukraine against us, and it's our human losses. We are thankful for all the support, unity between USA, in USA around Ukraine support. By partisan unity, by partisan support, we are thankful for all of this,

but there is no any leader in the world who can really make a deal with Putin without us about us. That isn't true. I have sympathy for the Ukrainians. I don't have any soft spot for Putin invading another country. But this piece will be negotiated by the United States. In fact, I go further. The United States is the only country that can negotiate this piece. Ukraine has very little to do with it at the level of diplomacy and peace because the war in Ukraine is a proxy war between the United States and Russia. Full stop. He who pays the piper coals the tune. That's that. That's politics. Okay. Now, this doesn't mean the U.S. is going to roll over here. You saw just last week, J.D. Vance came out and he said, you know what? We might send U.S. troops to Ukraine.

Setting up the stage for a negotiation with Putin. Yeah, maybe Ukraine will join NATO. Okay. So we've got competent people in charge. But this is a decision that is going to be made between the United States and Russia. It's just realpolitik. There is no President Zelensky. There is no sovereign Ukraine nation.

without the United States right now. So, sorry, buddy. We're calling the shots. Okay, that's just how it goes. Now, speaking of foreign affairs and death, by the way, we talked about South Africa. President Trump is called attention to the hideous degrading situation in South Africa, where you have major South African political leaders singing along, leading thousands of people in chance to kill the whites, kill the farmers, kill the boer. And now you've got a Black South African podcaster going viral, claiming that white people are not human. The problem that South Africans have right now is that we don't understand white people. White people are inferior species to us.

We are homo sapiens. They've got neanderthal blood in them. This is the science. And this is not science that was done by black people. It was done by them. You understand? Abotlive, Dobby Lewis, they were eugenicists. They studied this and they realized that they're inferior to blacks.

The white population is shrinking and shrinking and shrinking and shrinking. For us, it makes no sense. to descend into the savagery that they have. Whatever land that they're holding onto, either way, their numbers are dwindling. Whatever leadership that they had is dying out as well. And you know about wealth disappearing after the third generation that is passed down to, you know.

So we are there on the last generation. We're dealing with the weakest whites that the world has ever seen. So we expect to have Ubuntu humanity. Unfortunately, by the strictest definition of what a human being is, White people are just below human beings. You are negotiating with an animal. A wild dog that you're trying to train to be tamed, to be upo. You who guards your house.

You can never do that. Okay, so he's got some antipathy toward white people, I'm sensing. He does say one thing that is true. He points out that the genome of white people does include DNA, apparently, from Neanderthals. And this is different from sub-Saharan blacks. So there are pretty marked genetic differences between sub-Saharan black people and all sorts of other people, specifically with regard to the Neanderthals. Now, he says this means that white people are subhuman.

I don't know. I mean, white people have, they've done a good job throughout history. I'm pretty impressed with the kind of civilization that white people have built. So I don't know. I think we should not be so quick to knock the Neanderthals. If there really is Neanderthal DNA in white people. then, I don't know, the Neanderthals might have had something to go for them if there's some kind of genetic basis for that civilization. But all of that is beside the point. He says that the basic definition of what it means to human being, to be a human being, is genetics? And he goes further. He says not only is it genetics, but it's actually in the absence of any remnant of Neanderthal DNA. And that, to me, seems without basis. Though that is the claim of many racial, biological essentialists these days. What actually makes us human, the fundamental aspect of

what it means to be a human person is that we have a rational nature. That's what it is. And this is a difficult point for people on the left and the right and all sorts of people these days to understand because while we flatter ourselves in thinking that we're scientifically very advanced, we've become philosophically and theologically and anthropologically stupid. We've just, we've lost our ability to think in ways that people would have taken to be second nature in classical antiquity in the Middle Ages and even in the early modern era. But that's what makes us human. This guy has different genetics than I do. Take his word for it. He's got different genetics. I got some Neanderthal all around there. Maybe it's in my brow ridges. I don't know. But we are

both recognizably human. And that is because we both have a rational nature. I can speak to him. we could well we can't get married because he's a fella but i could marry his sister it would be possible we could have children we could have a human life it doesn't just boil down to genetics boils down to a rational nature now you might say that guy doesn't sound very rational but he is rational in the sense that he can have conversations about abstract topics he can contemplate abstract concepts such as justice such as human nature such as freedom and equality and politics. He does actually check those boxes, but he's undermining his own point, I think, because white people are obviously human beings, Asian people are human. We know what a

human being is, okay? So there has to be something deeper than hair or skin or genetics. I'm not even denying that race is a serious part of human life. It is. Of course it is. Those distinctions are real. But there is something deeper. There is something that unites us. There is something called human nature. And what that is, what separates us from monkeys and the delta smelt and rocks and trees, is our rational nature. You don't put a pit bull on trial for biting someone. The pit bull can't help himself. He doesn't have a rational nature. He unintentionally, perhaps, this South African anti-white activist in a collapsing country might actually be telling us, reminding us of something about human nature that even we in the West are forgetting. Now, speaking of what makes a human,

big breaking news, that porn gal who says that she slept with a thousand guys is reportedly pregnant. I'm not going to say her, and I don't even know what her real name is, but I'm not even going to say her stage name because she's probably just doing all of this for attention anyway, and I don't want to promote her platform. But she says that she's pregnant. You know, a thousand guys, statistically, I guess that makes sense. Even contraception is not 100% effective. So at a certain point of the numbers game, I guess you're going to get pregnant. But then no sooner does the thousand guys in a day porn gal say that she's pregnant than the other one.

The gal who says she slept with 100 guys in a day. She is now also saying that she's pregnant. And I don't know if I believe either of them because they are prostitutes who are selling fantasies to men. That's their whole career. So I don't know. I am not convinced that they're totally above board here. But in any case, one of them, the one named Lily, says it's official. The secret is out. And it's a little unclear because she showed she's got this big baby bump. But then the test she showed suggests she's just one to two weeks pregnant.

So that might be fake news. And then the other gal, this is what she, her evidence was that she's having cravings for weird food. so she wants to take another pregnancy test. So tomorrow I'm going to take another pregnancy test because, well, I want to know how far along. Okay, so who knows, maybe they're pregnant, maybe they're lying, who knows? If it is true that these two are pregnant, and you might be able to hear outside of my home studio right now that there are babies and toddlers crying, because I've got three of them for age four and under, and the Daily Wire decided to shut down the studio today because there are three snowflakes on the ground and they're afraid of their employees driving. And actually knowing how Professor Jacob drives,

they probably should be afraid of them driving even on a perfectly sunny day in the summer. Regardless, I digress. Let's say that soon these two porn gals will have little kids crying around their homes as well. It is possible to celebrate children without affirming all means of producing children. children are always a good. I was talking about this yesterday when we were bringing up IVF in the in vitro fertilization executive order. Children are always good. But that doesn't mean that all ways of producing children are good.

IVF is not morally defensible. Rape. You can produce a child through rape. No one's going to be defending rape. Going further, producing a child out of wedlock, that's not good. It's not good for the child. You should not endeavor to do that. It is better to have a child out of a child.

wedlock then to murder the child through abortion, but that doesn't mean that it's good to have a child out of wedlock. It doesn't mean that it's good to sleep with a thousand people in a day or a hundred people in a day or really anyone outside of marriage. And we can be very clear about that. Okay, good. Kids are good, but not all the means of procuring children are good. Going to the IVF store, if you're a single person, and creating a child intentionally to deprive that child of a mother or father, not good. A homosexual couple going and channeling their natural desire for a child into this deeply immoral practice of intentionally creating a child to deprive him of his mother or father, not good, not good. And we need to speak very, very clearly about that. Because we have this tendency

in modern life to just be really nice to everyone and affirm anyone's choices no matter how deviant or disordered. But it ain't good. Who knows? These two gals might be lying anyway. But if they if they are pregnant, good. Don't kill the babies. Do what you can. Make the best of a bad situation. But let's not kid ourselves here. Okay. There is a better way and we need to affirm that for everyone else. There's so much more to say. First though, go to puretalk.com slash knolls. This country was founded on freedom. Freedom from a country that forced us to buy overpriced tea, then tried blockading us when we dumped their tea into the ocean. How'd that work out? Not very well. Well, it's time to throw your overpriced big wireless contract overboard, too. You do not need to pay $100 a month just to get a free phone. Pure Talk, my cell phone company, says no to inflated prices. With a qualifying plan, you can choose an iPhone 14 or a Samsung galaxy for $0. This is for premium service on America's most dependable 5G network. I have been spreading the excellent news of Pure Talk for years now. And people ask me the same thing. They say, yeah, it's good service. But like, is it really good service? And I say, it is America's most dependable 5G network. Same

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you know, look, this Trump executive order, in many ways it doesn't really matter because while the order is being promoted as this great expansion of IVF, if you actually read the executive order, Trump had a press conference. He called on a staff member to come up and mention this executive order. Trump didn't even do it himself. He mentioned it in a series of two other executive orders. And all it really does is task the policy council, the domestic policy council of the White House, with writing up a paper, figuring out ways that you might be able to lower the cost of IVF or expand access. But it's not just like, hey, do a homework assignment. There's not necessarily teeth to it.

So I'm hoping that this is just pushed to the side and slow walked to the point of being irrelevant. You know, it checks a box for PR, but that's it because, you know, this is a relatively novel technology, but growing public opinion is turning against it as people come to understand what this really is. One of the downsides of IVF that keeps popping up, and this news story just popped up yesterday, is that people keep giving birth to the wrong babies. The scientists in the lab codes at the IVF shops keep cooking up the wrong baby in the petri dishes and giving it to the wrong mothers.

It was an error that Christina Murray calls unimaginable in every IVF patient's worst nightmare. This was never, ever a thought in my mind until it happened. Murray is suing low country-based coastal fertility specialists, claiming the clinic transferred her, the wrong embryo. One page lawsuit says when she gave birth in December 2023 after undergoing IVF at coastal fertility, the child was African American. Well, Murray and the sperm donor she picked were both white. I would have strangers approach us in public and ask whose child I had. I kept his life

as concealed as I could out of protection for him. After a five-month custody battle, Murray says she was forced to give the baby to his biological parents. At a news conference, her law says they're still trying to figure out how this happened and pointed to what he calls a lack of regulation. Until IVF clinics are subject to real regulations, reporting requirements, and mandatory certification programs for lab staff, these types of errors will continue to occur. I'll tell you how it happened. Okay, I don't have a ton of sympathy for this woman because she engaged in acts that are pretty clearly immoral, you know, going going and purchase sperm or even just acquiring sperm with a donated sperm from someone who is willing to sell or

otherwise donate his future children in order to deprive that child of a father, to fulfill the selfish desire to have a child as one has a handbag or a purse is not as bad. I understand the natural longing for a kid, but you have to respect the legitimate rights of children and you can't prioritize your own disordered and selfish desires over the legitimate rights of children, because children are not just objects to be bought and sold, commodities to be traded. They're subjects. They're human persons with rights for themselves. That's the first part. And the second part, I don't know, maybe she just got the wrong sperm. That can happen. When you industrialize procreation, that can happen.

And when you're talking about industrial products like automobiles or briefcases or computers or something, when a product comes out defective or contrary to the way that it was designed, you say, okay, no big deal, I'm going to throw it out and get a new one. But when you treat the human person as one of those commodities, you don't just throw out the human. Well, actually, you do. In the IVF industry, unfortunately, most of the people who are created as products are just thrown out. They're killed and then thrown in the trash. But it's not what you're supposed to do. That's deeply, deeply wrong. And then now you have this situation where this woman's been raising this kid for months, than has to give the kid up. It's very hard on her. It's very, very hard on the kid. Just

absolutely horrifying to do the kid. For what? This is a lot more common than people think. This story just broke yesterday. There have been many other such cases that are currently being litigated, okay? No Bueno. No good. Okay. Speaking of children, I have to wait in on a hot cultural debate. Do children belong at weddings? Every conservative I've seen, especially including my friend, Mr. Walsh, who's waiting into this debate all the way in. He's got his boots pulled up. He is going into the deep end of this debate. He says, it is insane to think that women, that the children, rather, should not be present at weddings. This all started because a woman went viral for giving the side eye to a little kid who was crying during her wedding ceremony at a ceremony that was supposed to exclude children. times are the last few weeks, but I'm the only one that knows them. And one of the questions I asked was,

when did you know you were in love and wanted to spend the rest of your life together as husband and wife? Okay, now this was during the wedding ceremony. So it's even more nuanced, okay? One, do children belong at wedding ceremonies? Two, do children belong at wedding receptions, which usually follow the ceremonies? Is it ever acceptable to exclude children from weddings? The answer is yes, it is perfectly acceptable to exclude children from weddings. You shouldn't be a jerk about it. You shouldn't give the side eye. You shouldn't shame people for having children. I'm not saying you can't invite children to weddings. I've been to plenty of weddings that had little kids invited and it was a ton of fun. I've had a great time. You can do that. It can be a blast. But it is perfectly acceptable.

to exclude children from wedding receptions. It's fine. Okay. How dare, how could you, here, I'll prove it to you. Here's how I'll prove it. Do you think it's okay to have black tie weddings? Do you think it is okay? I'm not saying you have to do it, but is it all right for a wedding to be black tie. Expect the guests to come in tuxed and ball gowns. We'd probably say yes. It's pretty common. Okay. Do children wear black tie? No, they don't. Little kids should not be wearing tuxed. That's a lot. That's probably. crazy. Should a little toddler girl wear a ball gown? No, that'd be ridiculous. So there you go. Just there alone. One simple little syllogism that is okay to have a black tie wedding, but it would be inappropriate for children to wear black tie. Therefore, we can conclude that certain wedding receptions can exclude children. It's okay. And it can be nice, actually. It's all right to do. What this debate is really about is what it means to be conservative, what it means to be traditional. It's not really about the wedding. It's not really about the kids. We love kids. They're welcome in many circumstances. You can have a good time with them at weddings,

but I don't think you need to because there are two kinds of traditional that we're talking about here. There's the Walton's traditional and the Windsor traditional. This is it. And I think both sides of this debate are just talking past each other here. Walton's traditional, that's, you know, the homestead with the overalls and the flannel and the cows and the whole family. comes around to dinner. It's good old salt of the earth kind of traditionalism. And that's great. I love that. I don't look good in overalls, but I like that culture a lot. It's fun. Got a lot of friends in that culture. It's cool, man. It's great. But there is another kind of tradition. There's the Windsor traditionalism. The traditionalism of the tuxedo and the brandy sniffter and the library built with rich mahogany. There's that, and that's okay too. It,

It's all right to have order and hierarchy, and it's okay to insist upon differing levels of sophistication, even. You wouldn't bring a three-year-old to a state dinner at the White House. It's okay to exclude children in certain cases. But it's the clash of those kinds of tradition. I think they're both good. I think there's a role for both of those. But that's really what this is about. It's the Walton's traditionalism versus the Windsor traditionalism.

And it's okay. If you want to have a fancy wedding, have your fancy wedding. It's all right. You'll see the kids tomorrow. Take them to brunch the next day. So, all right. That's very traditional too, actually. I know this is going to be very unpopular. But it's the truth. I got to tell you the truth. I got to tell you what I'm seeing, folks. Now, speaking of upending tradition, the libs just can't give it a rest. There's a new star of a revival of Jesus Christ superstar. Do you know who's playing the role of our Lord? We'll get to a number. moment. If you are with us for election night or for the inauguration, you know that the Daily Wire doesn't just show up. We take over. And now we're headed back to D.C. today to do just that at CPAC. Join me along with Ben, Matt, Drew, Jeremy, live tonight, February 20th. No scripted talking points, no corporate approved narratives, just real conversations that actually matter, streaming live on DailyWR Plus. We are taking your questions. Do not just watch CPAC, be a part of it, live. Thursday night,

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No. It is Cynthia Irivo, a black lady, is going to play our Lord. And I know they're going to, I'm already hearing it from the liberal Christians. they're going to say, well, it doesn't matter, actually. The appearance of the person. Doesn't even the sex of the person. You know, our Lord is everything. No, actually, hold on.

God, of course, is not bound by all of our little human categories. But our Lord, who is God, but who has both a divine nature and a human nature, actually enters into history in time and space with a body. and a sex and a skin color and real physical, he's a real person in time and space. So, no, it does matter. I'm waiting. I think there's going to be a revival of Spike Lee's Malcolm X and they're going to start Jim Gaffigan. Can you wait for that? That's going to be so great, don't you think? Audiences are going to line up. I don't think they wouldn't do that.

In fact, the lives in Hollywood in recent years have increasingly a. insisted that you cannot play any character that you do not personally identify with, that does not check off all of the criteria on your personal identity. In my youth, I was an actor. I've played all sorts of roles, all sorts of roles that are totally foreign to me. I played, I played the devil once. I played football players. I've played U.S. soldiers. played guys who were a little light in the loafers. I've played Hispanics. I've played all sorts of things. It's not me.

I haven't just played Italian, half Italian, half, wasp, Irish from New York, millennial. That would be crazy. But the Libs say, now, these days, if you want to play a gay guy in a movie, you have to be a gay guy. What happened to pretending? What happened to acting? No, out the window. If you want to play a trans-identifying person, you need to identify as trans. But if you want to play Our Lord, you can be a black lady. It's totally fine. Hmm. Doesn't make a lot of sense.

So there's no consistent principle here for the left. It's just anything that would upend tradition that would irritate normal people. They're for that. But otherwise, no rules. No rules. We play by whatever capricious rules they come up with that day. This does, though, speak to a deeper debate within the theater that's going on for a long time. He was Bruce Dean who formerly ran the Yale Repertory Theater. Then he went up to the art, the American Repertory Theater up by Harvard. And he got into a big fight with the guy who wrote Fences. What is his name?

He's probably the founder of the modern black theater in America. Oh, anyway, his name escapes me. But he was a black playwright from St. Paul, Minnesota area. And they had this big debate over colorblind casting. should you cast acknowledging race or not. August Wilson was the black playwright. And Bruce Dean, this white liberal guy, said, yeah, colorblind casting is great.

You can have colorblind casting, and, you know, you could have black people play white characters and white people play black characters, and that's all great. And it was the black guy. It was August Wilson who said, no, you can't. You know, it's ridiculous. But some, I guess maybe sometimes there can be exceptions. Denzel Washington did a great Macbeth.

But, you know, no, generally, you can't have a black lady playing Our Lord, and you can't have Jim Gaffigan playing Malcolm X, and it doesn't make sense. You know, we have to, there have to be certain limits here within the theater. But for the left, they don't care. They're really just poking buttons. That's all this is about. This is not because Cynthia Revo went in and did a great version of an Andrew Lloyd-Weber song. It's because they knew this would grab headlines and get people like me to complain about it,

and I guess they succeeded. Now, speaking of Hollywood entertainers, this was really fitting. This was great. Mark Hamill, whose only notable film role ever began in the 1970s, and he hasn't shut up about it since. Mark Hamill was just presenting at the BAFTA Awards, the British Theatre Awards. And as he was presenting, his pants fell down. Hat tip to Colin Rugg for this little clip. So what makes us love cinema so much that we're all gathered here to celebrate tonight? For me, it's that films create worlds so vivid and stories so powerful that we lose ourselves in them completely. They create immersive cinematic landscapes that feel alive, whether they're set here in London or anywhere. This is like a Saturday live sketch.

If you're just listening to it right now, halfway through, you can hear his voice start to crack. His pants just fall down. And you can't really see on camera, though according to reports, according to the sun, Mark started speaking, then his suit trousers just dropped to his knees. It was like they were too big for him. All the big stars such as Timothy Chalameh, Ariana Grande, Adrian Brody, would have seen it from their angle. Most guests looked horrified, but said nothing. They were turning to each other wide-eyed as if to say, did that just happen? So his pants dropped to the ground. He says, oh, and then he starts trying to pull him up,

and his jacket gets all discombobulated, and it's really symbolic, really fitting. because Hollywood, the liberal entertainment, they've been caught with their pants down, and their ratings have collapsed, and their cultural influences collapsed, and they all hated Trump, and yet Trump won the popular vote. And it's really fitting. I don't have much more to say about it. It is very funny to see this guy who really comes off as one of the biggest left-wing jerks in all of Hollywood actually be pantsed on international television. Now, speaking of the libs being caught with her pants down, L.A. Mayor Karen Bass was just interviewed about what happened. On her watch, her city burned to the ground. And technically it wasn't even on her watch because she wasn't looking. She was negligent. She wasn't in town. She wasn't in the country. She wasn't on the continent. She was in Africa on some kind of public funded vacation while her city was burning to the ground. And Alex Michelson, an excellent interviewer in L.A., asked her, he said, hey, you had warning. that this kind of thing could happen. What happened? We know that there was warnings about the weather before you went, and you still went.

What was the thought process behind going to Ghana? So let me just tell you a couple of things. First of all, when the White House called and asked me if I would represent the president, I said, yes, it was going to be a very, very short trip over a weekend and two business days. We need to look at everything about the preparation and all that for the fires because I think when we evaluate that we will find that although there were warnings that I frankly wasn't aware of although there were warnings I think our preparation what it wasn't what it typically is meaning that before there's a major weather event for example last week when we knew we were going to

get into the rains right you saw us come together and us talk about you know get your sandbags bring the K-rails out that That type of preparation didn't happen. If that had, I will tell you, Alex, I wouldn't have even gone to San Diego, let alone leave the country. But what do you mean there were warnings you weren't aware of? Because I know we were talking about it on the news. A lot of people were talking about the problems. Devastating.

Devastating follow-up from Alex Michelson. What do you mean that you weren't aware of? Like we were aware of that, we in the news, and the local news were aware of. You're the mayor of L.A. What do you mean you're not aware? Watch the news. I guess you should watch a news. And then you'd find out about it. Everybody knew about this. After L.A. burned to the ground, the Libs tried to blame climate change or just some total fluke of nature, unexpected. These Santa Ana winds come in every year. This is not unprecedented in any way. I lived in L.A. for six, seven years. I could have easily predicted this or something like this. There was no preparation.

that reservoir of water in the palisades that was empty right before these really dangerous winds were coming in. They had not cleared the brush. There was no serious forest management going on. They were redirecting 95% of rainwater into the Pacific Ocean to protect some stupid Delta smelt. I mean, crazy stuff. President Trump was warning about this in 2018. Not good. Doesn't make any sense whatsoever. I wasn't aware is never a good excuse for a politician, but totally insane in this case. And you've even got liberals turning on Karen Best. Does that mean that even LA, Gomorra by the Sea, might see a rightward lurch in the next election? We'll find out. Now, here's a little teaser to leave you on. Transgender vegan cult members have just been arrested and charged with murder. Maryland. It's always the ones you most expect. They don't, they won't eat fish, but they will murder people. We will get to that story. I guess we got to get to that tomorrow because I need to catch a

flight. There won't be any member block today. I'm sorry, not just because I'm stuck here with three snowflakes, but even if the Daily Wire Studios are closed, I need to go get to my flight, because I'm going to CPAC. And I'm giving my speech at CPAC. We will see what kinds of bad ideas we eradicate this year. And then all of us together are doing a backstage live from CPAC. So see you there. I'll see tomorrow. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Nulls show.