The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1721 - Shannon Sharpe’s Disgusting Drama with 20-Year-Old Model Goes Viral

Episode Date: April 24, 2025

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both of those things happen all the time. I don't know who's telling the truth. What is notable about this case is that our current depraved culture actually makes it impossible to know the truth, even for the people who are involved. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles show. Welcome back to the show. Joy Behar is worried that Pope Francis is going to be repulsed.

by, quote, some conservative guy. Pope Francis, who was more conservative, with the exception of maybe the immigration issue, more conservative than any American politician in either party, she's concerned he'll be replaced by some conservative guy. Now, I'm going to get back to my brilliant point in one second. First, though, go to expressvpn.com slash knolls. Imagine going to your computer and hitting print on your browsing history and then signing your name at the bottom and nailing it to the front door of your house.

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It's not amazing because a former football player did naughty things with women or potentially even committed crimes with women. It's not an amazing story because some woman is being accused of shaking down a rich guy. That's quotidian. Okay, that's ordinary stuff. What's amazing is how our culture is ordered to make it impossible to know what the truth is for everyone, including them. What's happening here is this girl. She's now, when they started dating, she was 19 or 20.

now, I think it's a couple years later, so she's 21, 22, something like that. She was dating Shannon Sharp. Shannon Sharp is in his early 50s. She has a $50 million civil lawsuit that she's levying against him because she says that during their two-year relationship, he became abusive. That's what the case hinges on. Did Shannon Sharp abuse his 19, 20-year-old girlfriend? Now, Shannon Sharp was already in hot water for weird sex stuff because in 2024, he inadvertently made a sex tape and streamed it live to Instagram.

You can only hear it, you couldn't see it, but at first he denied it and then he admitted, yeah, that was me. That's embarrassing. And I guess the sex tape was not with the girl. It was with some other girl or something. Anyway, who cares. Shannon Sharp has been caught on audio, audio presumably recorded by his much younger ex-girlfriend. making these damning comments regarding this case. You want to be a bitching now, so?

I don't want to be, don't manipulate me. I don't know, I'll get mercy. If you said that one more time, I'm going to choke your out of you when I see you. I'm not really interested in getting choked, so I guess we're going. Yeah, I may choke you in public. big black guy chose small white woman. It's not a good look, Shannon. Not a good look that you do with the shit you did to me.

Okay, so it's clear his day that this woman is recording him. He's not recording her, and you can hear her audio much more clearly than you can hear his. But it is a little bit unclear what the audio means. On the face of it, it's this guy threatening to choke the S-H-I-T out of his much young girlfriend. Clear abuse, right? Guilty is charged to pay up the 50 million bucks in the civil lawsuit. Except, text messages have been released, Sharp released the text messages, in which his ex-girlfriend sent him extremely lewd solicitations. At one point, even included a price list for things that he could do to her and what it would cost. Here are the key texts, quote, I want to be abused,

Daddy and quote, I want like some hardcore BDSM, like Sado masochistic stuff. Action, though. I want to be abused, Daddy. The lawsuit hinges on whether or not Shannon Sharp abused this young woman. This young woman told Shannon Sharp she wants to be abused. So I guess he's guilty. but she asked him to do it. So he's not guilty.

So final piece of evidence, the accuser released some text message conversations in which she confronted Shannon Sharp about a particular instance of alleged rape on January 2nd of this year. The text reads, But I cried when you left because I begged you to put a condom on

and not put it in an area that we don't need to talk about, and you didn't listen. I don't care what our history is. No means no, Shannon. Next message from her, I don't know how to process this. Can I call you later? So you read that and you think, okay, well, hold on, this doesn't sound like a kinky, consensual relationship. This sounds like he raped her. But how would he know? Not even how do we know, not even how does the judge know? Now, how would Shannon Sharp know whether or not this instance was consensual? This woman sent him so many text messages. Some of them saying, tie me up, abuse me.

I want to be abused. I want to be, you know, violated, I guess. So how would he even know? I don't know whether this interaction was consensual or not. And you don't know. And I don't think we can know. But here's what I do know. Every single action, every single action that is alleged in this case,

was illegal for most of American history in most of America. Fornication. That was illegal. Sodomy. That was illegal. Condoms. Those were illegal. Making pornography.

That was illegal. That still sort of is illegal on the books, but it's not enforced usually. And all of this would have been illegal. And so I'm not saying that we have to return to some 19th century understanding of sexual ethics. in our law. Probably wouldn't be the worst idea, but I'm not saying we have to do that. But what I am saying is, back when we had these laws for most of American history, and when they were enforced for much of American history and most of America, this woman would have been protected. And Shannon Sharp would have been protected. This lawsuit wouldn't exist.

Both of these people who are claiming to be victims here, the woman claiming to be the victim of an abusive man, the man claiming to be the victim of a gold-digging woman, both of them would have been protected. Everyone would have been better off. What did either of these people gain from this relationship? Shannon Sharp got to be titillated a little bit and then maybe have his life ruined. And this girl got to, even if these fantasies that she had were sincere, she got to degrade herself because she had a perverse fantasy. And then eventually, if she's sincere in the rape allegation, eventually she was traumatized. That's the good stuff that they got out of this.

Why do we tolerate this? Back when we had laws against all of these things, at the very least there was some objective measure to say, okay, he did commit the crime, he didn't commit the crime. Now that we have taken out all moral considerations other than consent, based on our misunderstanding of liberty as neutrality and choice rather than willing predicated on knowledge, now we have no way of knowing. Because consent can be withdrawn at any time.

Consent can be withdrawn even unwittingly on the part of the party that's supposed to consent. Well, you know, she wasn't in her right mind. Well, she was drunk. Well, she was being brainwashed. Well, she was being manipulated. That was one of the words that comes up in that phone. call. Focus features in Blumhouse present, Obsession.

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because of their ignorance and vice. I wish they hadn't fallen into that. But there, there is no way for even Shannon Sharp to know if he committed a crime here. Because she asked him to do the thing that he's being accused of, and yet the thing that he's being accused of is a crime. That's what happens when you live in the subjectivist culture that is predicated entirely on individual autonomy and preference. Preference has changed. And now this guy's life might be ruined for it. And this woman's life might have been ruined for the same thing. Don't go anywhere. We're going to get back to this important point first though go to legacy box dot com slash knolls if you are not able to watch old family videos anymore because your vCR broke in the late 90s you are going to love my friends at legacy box

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literally different lists. If you say that you want a white kid only versus if you say that doesn't matter. Like literally a different list. What is that? What do you mean by that? The list for white could only is longer. And

not only that, there was actually a discount or you didn't have to pay a deposit on the fee. Discant is crazy. This is like how it works. I couldn't believe. So we didn't know anything about the racial identity of the kids until they started to look mixed race, which they are. And like contending with like the hair thing is

already like a, contending with like the hair thing. Contending with like the hair thing. Because black people have different hair. So it's been a little bit unclear how Pete Buttigieg and his partner acquired their babies because two fellas can't make a baby together. There's a question, was it IVF and surrogacy? Was it that kind of custom order baby industry? Was it adoption? How is it? The way that Pete Buttigieg is talking about ordering a baby here is horrifying and

dystopian because even if we're talking about adoption, and I think adoption can be a wonderful thing because you are rectifying a wrong, which is the wrong of a baby not having parents who will raise him. So that can be a good thing. It's not that you're, you know, intentionally creating a market for babies or anything like that. It's not that you're treating babies necessarily as a product to be purchased. You are rectifying wrong. You're taking in an orphan. That's a really good thing. And the mothers who give up babies for adoption are, at the very least, not killing the baby, which is where our culture pushes them to do. But even here, even when it comes to adoption, we have to be very, very careful not to treat babies as products to be

purchased or even to be custom ordered. We need to be very, very careful to treat babies as human beings, proper subjects with dignity and rights. What strikes me about this clip, Pete Buttigieg is the most presentable, slick representative of the sexual revolution. You know, hi, he's Pete Buttigieg. You know, he went to Harvard. Yeah. He's been running for president since he was in grade school. And he's just totally likable.

You know, just a nice guy. And yet, the most polished and attractive representative of this sexual revolution is, is horrifying. This is horrifying to speak of babies this way. Yeah, you know, there's the list. There's the list to get the white kid or the black kid. And then what kind of hair are we going to get? What kind of hair do you want? You know, what color eyes do you want on the kid? I don't, you know, I'm just, I don't know. I'm not sure. I mean, when I was younger, I was more like I'd wear brown shoes and a brown belt and a leather strap watch. But then sometimes, I don't know, I moved to like a bracelet watch. So maybe what kind of kid would go better with my, with the bracelet watch? Maybe. be a blonde kid with hazel eyes, blue eyes is too much. What do we think? What do you want, honey? What kind of baby do you want? Why does Pete Buttigieg need to either order a baby through IVF or adopt a baby? Because he refuses to get married and make a baby the old-fashioned way. It's just fine. It's

his prerogative. Nobody's forcing him to get married. And if he wants to do, wants to do stuff with another fella, no one's sending the purity police around to him. But then Pete Buttigieg has to pretend that that's marriage. And if that's marriage, and if we live in a culture that views children as something that we're entitled to rather than as a gift from God, then Pete Buttigieg is entitled to a baby. And whole industries have to crop up to service that supposed entitlement. And when those industries crop up, well, we are going to treat babies as something that we're entitled to, which is to say we're going to treat them like property. Don't be surprised. Now, President Trump wants people to have more babies.

I certainly want people to have more babies. We have a birth rate that has collapsed. We are literally a dying country. So President Trump has a plan for a baby bonus. It's unclear exactly what the details are right now, but the admin is reportedly looking into giving a $5,000 baby bonus to incentivize people to have more kids, which is great.

I'm all for it, actually. I know the libertarians and the establishment conservative types are going to say this is bad because it's the government, getting involved and incentivizing things and whatever other nonsense you can expect. But yeah, the government exists. The civil authority exists for our good. It is supposed to conduce to the common good. And the collapse in the fertility rate is an existential political problem.

It's not just a personal inconvenience. It's not just a private misery that some people endure. It's a political problem because if your country doesn't make babies anymore, than your country dies. So it's a political problem. to be dealt with, we hope, in a wise way by the government, and paying people to have babies is a perfectly fine idea. However, we got to be smart about it. We don't just want more babies. We want more babies born in the proper way so that we are respecting the rights of the babies.

We are actually conducing toward the common good of our country. We're not committing immoral actions in our blindness and haste to pursue the good of babies. You know, babies are good, but good ends do not justify immoral means. You can make a baby through rape that doesn't justify rape. So we need to make sure that we're encouraging a new baby boom in the right way. We want more babies born to mothers and fathers who are married. So you could do this through the law. You could say married couples get the baby bonus, unmarried couples. or single women or something do not. Now, that'll be challenged in court,

and our judiciary might be so liberal at this point, and our jurisprudence might be so liberal that they might say, no, if you give the baby bonus to married couples, you need to give the baby bonus to single mothers. And that would be very unfortunate. Who knows? They might even say, you have to give the baby bonus to single fathers who go out and just make the baby thrive off on their own or something.

I mean, we'll have to see how radical our regime has become. But assuming we can still legitimately distinguish in our law between married couples and single people, then you have to say, okay, it's just for married couples. And I think you need to give the baby bonus to the mothers. I'm not saying this because I'm a feminist or anything like that. You know, I like the old traditional idea that the husband is the head of the household. But you have to do this because we've redefined marriage in our law because Anthony Kennedy and the Supreme Court decided to write romantic poetry in 2015. So you now have unions of two men and two women who are pretending to

to be married couples. So does this mean that the Pete Buttigiegs of the world have a right to $5,000 because they go and order a custom baby? That would be very bad. That would be disrespecting the rights of babies because babies have a right to their mother and father, joined together in a lifelong union. So if you say, all right, it's for married couples and the women get the bonus. At the very least, you're doing this kind of Rube Goldberg strategy to try to make sure

that the baby bonus is actually encouraging babies to be born in the way that is. best for babies, best for families, best for the country, which is the whole purpose of the policy in the first place. And before the liberals come in and argue that, you know, there's no evidence that it's better for children to be raised by a mother and a father than by two fellows or two women and four guys in a billy goat or something, there are lots of studies. We don't have time to get into them now. There are lots of social scientific studies proving that it is worse for children to be raised by two men or by two women or by a single woman or by a single man. There are many, many studies.

You don't need the studies to know this, but there are many, many studies that show that it is much better for children to be raised by a man and a woman who are married, who are stably married, who are married for life. So we want our policy to reflect that. At the very least, if you say it goes to the women, then you're excluding the unions of two fellows, you know, the Pete Buttigiegs of the world from the baby bonus. You're excluding single individuals. You're encouraging people to get married.

but we need to think of this as a political problem. Not having kids is a major danger to your country. And this is where you get an expression from Victorian England that has come up through our present day, which is close your eyes and think of England. Just lie back, dear, and think of England. This is an expression that is said to women who don't want to sleep with their husbands,

but, you know, they feel that it's a marital duty. They say, well, dear, just do your patriotic duty. close your eyes and think of England. Well, that's what we're telling people. We're saying, hey, guys, close your eyes, get rid of the contraception, close your eyes and think of America. Do your patriotic duty. Make America great again. You got to have babies. Okay, it's your marital duty. It's your patriotic duty. It is fun. Let's not forget, it is like a fun thing to do. At least, I don't know, I'm a fella. So maybe the women have different views sometimes. But you got to do it, folks, close your eyes and think of America and maybe you get $5,000.

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are attacking Trump's baby bonus in the only way they know how, they're calling it racist. They're saying that the U.S. birth rate is declining. However, in 2024, there was a 1% increase in U.S. births. But that increase was with Hispanic mothers and Asian mothers. So they don't seem to be concerned about that increase. They seem to be more concerned about a decrease. in other populations.

Say it. No, I think I've said enough. It's not based on them. And so, well, it's just, it's just based on a study. And so the other thing, I will say that anywhere, I mean, I feel like it could be fair. It's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just a study. Have they said that this is to target only white family? Oh, I didn't, I didn't say that.

We have to read between the lines. I just gave the stats. I just gave the stats. It's racist. Don't you see. Here's the proof. because they say that America needs to have more children because we have a below replacement fertility rate.

But we had a 1% increase in births last year because of Hispanic women and Asian women. And so this baby bonus is just about making more white people. And black people, I guess, but never mind. Forget about that. We're still trying to call the Trump administration racist. It's just about white people. We had a 1% increase last year.

We had a 1% increase. What are you worried about? Here's what I'm worried about. We've had a below replacement birth rate since 1971. That's what I'm worried about. A 1% increase, you think that's going to solve the problem? Give me a break. We need to increase births dramatically.

And so fine. I mean, this is what the liberals are dealing with through mass migration. They're trying to solve the problem, the labor problem, and get some electoral bonus for themselves through mass migration. But hold on. Just the other day, the liberals were arguing that we need. needed mass migration because we don't have enough babies in America, because we need to prop up our economy. So you were acknowledging the problem five seconds ago. Out of one side of your mouth, you were acknowledging the problem. But now when we move away from migration and you're not

trying to justify open borders, now you're trying to attack Trump for encouraging people to have babies. Now you're saying, no, no, no, we don't have a birth rate problem. We don't need to prop up our economy through artificial means like mass migration. So which is it? Furthermore, The way you know that this argument is just so preposterous that Republicans are just concerned with boosting the white birth rate and suppressing the birth rates of others. If that were true, why would Republicans and conservatives be pro-life? The pro-life movement disproportionately saves black babies. It also saves some white babies and some Hispanic babies and some Asian babies. But it disproportionately, vastly disproportionately, saves black babies. Black babies

are the most in danger of being killed through abortion. 60% of black babies in New York are aborted. The most dangerous place for a black person in New York City is in his mother's womb. So if conservatives just wanted relatively more white babies than black babies, why would they ever be pro-life? It is because, it seems to me, it is morally good not to murder babies. It is morally good to have babies. It is morally good to encourage families. We can know this from the natural law.

We can use our reason for this. And also, it is a matter of political justice and political prudence. No. How do we, hmm? Hey, listen, Democrats, how do we, how can we possibly campaign against babies? You know, everyone loves babies, don't they? Okay, I know what we'll do. We'll call it racist. Now, speaking of Republicans supporting stuff, as I suggested yesterday on the show, the libs are trying to take out Pete Heggseth, the Secretary of Defense, because they think he's the weakest link and he's just the easiest scalp they can get from the Trump administration.

I said, I don't think that Trump is going to back away from Heg Seth. I think the Lib's been trying to do this since before he was confirmed, it hasn't worked yet. I don't think it's going to work right now. Vice President J.D. Vance seems to be proving that prediction yesterday on a tarmac reaffing the administration's support for Hegset. It's a question on Secretary of Peak Hegset. There's been staffers who've come out saying that he's not fit for the job. Do you still have confidence in the secretary?

Look, I have 100% confidence in the secretary. I know the president does and really the entire team does. It's one of the most bizarre things about the Hegsef nomination from the very beginning, the media seemed to want to tank it. And when they failed and they got confirmed, they decided they wanted to keep on that effort to destroy Pete Hagtzeth as a man as the Secretary of Defense. I think he's doing a great job. I think that he's brought a certain spirit back to the Department of Defense.

And if you look at our military recruitment numbers, that's, in my view, the best testament to his leadership of the military is that for the first time and a very long time, we don't have terrible recruitment problems in the Army, the Navy, and the Air Force. That's a great testament to his leadership. frankly, the press talked more about that and not about anonymous sourcing from random staffers. Yeah, great answer, and it's going on offense, which the admin should be doing and does a very good job at generally. It's not just that Pete Hegseth is fine or he's okay. It's not just that, no, no, no, no, no, he's qualified. No, seriously. Really, he is. No, come on. He's not that bad.

He's very good as Secretary of Defense. He's very good. Just look at the recruitment numbers. He's very good. Look at the Houthi bombing campaign. There hasn't been a major military engagement yet since Trump was inaugurated. That's good. That's also a testament to Pete Hanksett's leadership and certainly to President Trump's leadership. But let's look at the military under Joe Biden. The disastrous pullout from Afghanistan, the loss of the lives of American servicemen, and of Afghan citizens, the giving up of billions of dollars worth of. of military equipment to the enemy that we had been fighting for 20 years, the collapse in military recruitment numbers. It was dreadful. And yet we never saw these headlines about Lloyd Austin.

We never saw these baseless insinuations that Lloyd Austin was irresponsible. Even though Lloyd Austin disappeared from the job for days, didn't even tell the president. Remember that one? And we never heard, oh, he's irresponsible. He's probably out boozing or something like that. They say all of this nonsense about Heggseth. And yet it's not merely that Hegset is doing okay. Pete Hegseth is doing an excellent job. The only thing they can knock him on is that Pete Hegseth texted other members of the administration on signal chat, something that every politician and political operative in both parties does. So they got nothing on this guy. And yet they keep going after him. I think J.D. Vance is right to raise this question. Why is it that you guys are just so

obsessed with taking him down for nothing? Pete Hegseth, for his side of things, decides that he's going to go offense as well. At the Defense Department, that means no more distractions. No more social engineering. No more climate change worship. No more electric tanks. No more gender confusion. No more pronouns.

No more excuses. No more quotas. No more woke bullshit that undermines commanders and command climates. We are laser folks. focused on our mission of war fighting. Simple as. You know, I'm generally opposed to politicians using swear words in public. I don't like it. I don't like it when Democrats do it. I don't even really like it when President Trump does it. And I'm a badest big a fan of President Trump as you could possibly get. But I think the Secretary of Defense, I think he gets a pass if he wants

to use BS or something like that, you know, all this woke BS. He says the real world. word. After George Patton, if you've ever read George Patton's speech to the Third Army, which is included in the movie Patton, and they actually had to clean up the language in the movie Patton, which is already vulgar enough, because, you know, Patton's whole speech is, you know, these Fers and these GD and this, all that, and the other thing, you know, I think if you're around the military, you get a little bit of a political pass. And I think it's very smart of Hegg Seth to go on offense here. Make it clear, or at least define, why the people are trying to get you. If the left is just dead set from the moment your name was

floated on taking you out, then define the issue. Make an argument as to why they're trying to take you out. And if the argument as to why they're trying to take you out is because I want to end wokeness in the military, I want to return the military to high standards, I want to recruit the best of America, most courageous fighters, I want to win wars, I want to be judicious in how we use force, and I want to be extremely lethal when we do use force. If that's it and your opponents have to take the other side of that, you're in a good political position. At the Daily Wire, we ask the hard questions and we go get the answers.

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Now, my favorite comment yesterday is from the Stoned Sailor, 0672, who says, how about we all stop talking about Kanye West? We can't. We can't. He commands attention. Some people just command attention. Remember, this is like people in 2016 and said, why don't we just stop talking about Trump? You can't. Why don't we all?

they would have said in the 19th century, why don't we all just stop talking about Napoleon? You can't. He just commands attention. I don't know that Kanye West would score very high on an IQ test. I don't know that he would do a great job on the SAT, for instance. But the guy has a certain kind of genius. I don't think his music is exactly Stravinsky, okay? But he has a certain kind of creative genius. and he will command your attention, whether you want it or not. Now, speaking of people in important offices, and actually returning just very briefly to the view, Joy Behar is voicing the opinion of many, many secular liberals

when she expresses her fear that Pope Francis will be replaced by, quote, some conservative guy. I was watching a 60 Minutes piece that he was interviewed, And he said, we have to get over our hearts to feel again. We cannot remain indifferent in the face of such human dramas. The globalization of indifference is a very ugly disease that this country is suffering from. That's the kind of pope that he was, and that's the kind of pope that I hope will replace this pope after the conflict. I wonder, though, because there might be a backlash against how good he was and how much humility he had compared to some of the leaders.

in this world right now. So there might be a backlash to it, and they'll get some conservative guy in there who, you know, is anti-gay and everything else. Joy Behar is worried that the Catholic Church, the College of Cardinals, will replace Pope Francis with some conservative guy. With the exception of immigration, of borders and all the rest, Pope Francis, just on political issues was more right-wing than any politician in America, without exception. It's not even close. She says, they might replace him with someone who's anti-gay. Pope Francis referred to same-sex marriage

as a machination of the father of lies that seeks to deceive and confuse the children of God. When asked if the Vatican would bless same-sex marriages, he said God cannot bless sin. he mocked the notion of transgenderism, of course. He said that getting an abortion is like hiring a hitman. There is not one politician at any level of American politics who was more right-wing than Pope Francis on political issues with the exception of the immigration issue. It's not one.

Now, that doesn't mean that you can't say that Francis's pontificate was liberal or confusing or even bad for the church. you can say that. Pope Francis's pontificate was confusing and did sometimes raise questions about whether or not he was being heterodox or just raised a lot of eyebrows from the standpoint of the Catholic Church. But the left-right political paradigm does not map neatly onto the Catholic Church because the Catholic Church predates the left-right paradigm by 1,700 years, 1780 years actually. So it doesn't, what do they mean? It does show you the fact that the liberals, really, the secular liberals who are not Christian, they seem to love Pope Francis so much, it does show you that there's probably a reason that the Francis Pontificate appealed to them. And it probably was some of the confusion that came from it. Probably it was some of the seemingly contradictory statements. But to use this phrase, you know, they are going to replace him with some conservative guy who's anti-gay. One of Pope Francis's

most famous public expressions was Cheja tropa frochaginae, which means in English, there is already too much faggotry when he was smacking down the notion of homosexual seminarians. Okay, so don't, you know,

I'm not saying it wasn't confusing, I'm not saying it wasn't liberal by the standards of the Catholic Church. I'm not saying it wasn't even, I'm not saying there aren't issues that are going to have to be worked out in the next modificate. But like, come on, man.

Even American concerns, when they said, this Pope, he's so left wing, he is more right wing, he was more right wing, than any of the politicians you love on every issue but immigration. So now there's a difference between religious issues and merely political issues. There's at least a distinction to be made. I get it all. But, you know, come on, guys. Come on. Let's look at the facts, okay? We want the facts. Now, speaking of immigration, New Pole Lave from Rasmussen, 56% of likely voters say that it is the, very important to deport migrant criminals. Only 5% say that it is not important at all. And you say,

okay, well, that's just among all voters, all likely voters. What do the Democrats say? 43% of Democrats say that these deportations are very important. Only 8% of Democrats say they are not at all important, which raises one question for me. Whatever happened to Kilmara Brago Garcia? You remember him? He was all we could talk about. He's the Maryland father, who multiple judges found was likely a member of MS-13 and who had a restraining order filed in court by his wife for domestic violence.

But he was a Maryland father, a Maryland. He was an illegal alien. He had no right to be in America. But he was a Maryland father. like he showed up to Maryland at some point and the Democrats were so obsessed with him they wanted to make him the poster child for their party Senator Chris Van Hollen

flew from Maryland down to El Salvador to go on a romantic lunch date with him to caress his hair and say, are you okay Señor Garcia how is this my amor? How is this? Señor Garcia

Can I help you in any way? way, would you like me to help you traffic fentanyl or some of human beings? Then he disappeared from the headlines. Why? I think it's because of polls like that. The Democrats realize it's like the trans issue. You notice the Dems are, they're backing away from the trans issue, even the very liberal prime minister of the UK right now saying, oh, look, I think a man can't be a woman. Look, look, we're going to, hey, come on, give it up. It's all right.

This same thing here with the deportations. mass deportations, we've learned this in the 2024 election and it is proven true again and again and again. The libs keep trying to poison that issue. They keep trying to turn public opinion against it. It doesn't work. Mass deportations are a mainstream popular political issue among Republicans and Democrats. Finally, the Democrat took them a little while, but they're finally wise to let this Kilmar-Abrego-Gar-Garcia thing go. Now, speaking of immigrants, I want to turn into a legal immigrant, Elon Musk. Jasmine Crockett, you know Jasmine Crockett? She's this new member of Congress, this new sensation, liberal who says outrageous, cruel, nasty, vulgar things and gets a lot of clicks for it.

Jasmine Crockett, who I don't think is a rocket scientist, who I don't think she's a member of Mensa. She just called Elon Musk, the wealthiest man in the world, one of the most successful men of our lifetimes, an idiot. The level of incompetence is almost like incomprehensible. It is so bad. And when you bring up the idiot known as Elon Musk is not only like very sinister and has no idea what he's doing. And people are like, oh no, he absolutely knows because he's the richest. of the world. Like, yes, he knows how to hire smart people, but don't conflate that and believe that he is the genius because he ain't. And so, you know, the idiot known as Elon Musk, whoa, and all those clapping seals. And what is that, Jimmy Kimmel's show in the audience.

You know, it's just, it's like when I was a boy and George W. Bush was the president. And they would all say, George Bush is an idiot. And all these people whose IQs were much, much lower than George Bush. It was like, well, you know, George Bush was an idiot. George Bush, who. sometimes he was inarticulate, but, you know, he did, he graduated Harvard Business School, right, a pretty successful career, became president, you know. Oh, yeah, he's a big dummy. Chris Hitchens actually made fun of Bill Maher's audience for laughing at that. Well, she's doing the same thing, same playbook. And it means she's a very skilled politician. Might be the only conservative in America who's saying positive things about Jasmine Crockett,

but you know game recognized game man she's good she's good she knows what she's doing jasmine crockett is just a mixture of aOC and donald trump trump commands attention too and he says provocative things he gets a lot of attention he he does it in a in a good way like for the cause of justice and with the prospects of having a much longer career trump has been at the top of his game for almost half a century he's been a major figure in American public life since at least the 80s. Jasmine Crockett, I don't know if she's got the legs for it, but she'll go far, at least for a little while. You got to give it, she's the new AOC.

If I were AOC, I would be furious right now. I think the person in America who is most likely to be angry about and worried by Jasmine Crockett, it's not some Republican. It's not Elon Musk. It's AOC, because she's taking AOC's whole shtick and she's doing it pretty well. finally today, we get a member block. I know, and I, I want to apologize. I've been on the road a lot. This has been my big travel month. April is the cruelest month. And then all these new trips come up. So I go, I visit my wonderful grandmother for Easter, and then this, I'm invited to the White House for the Easter egg rolls.

And I got to divert my whole family. We go up for the Easter egg roll. And then I got to go to Los Angeles to film episodes for the book club at Prager You. And then I know, we haven't had a lot of member, member segmentum. So I've got to divert. a very special one for you today about the movie American Miracle with all sorts of people. You know Kevin Sorboe. We got a couple other guest special actors on there. One you might know very well. The rest of the show continues now. You don't want to miss it.

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