The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1731 - BREAKING: India and Pakistan on the Brink of Nuclear War

Episode Date: May 8, 2025

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Pakistan says that India sent drones last night and that Pakistan shot down the drones. India is claiming that Islamabad was sending missiles and drones. This, after India launched a major military strike on what it calls terrorist targets in Pakistan, that couple weeks after Pakistan launched a major terror attack on India. A lot of it centers around Kashmir, which is a disputed territory that both India and Pakistan claim in full. Is this bluffing? Are they serious when they say nuclear war could break out at any time? How much should we worry? Well, I'll tell you exactly how much we should worry.

Both India and Pakistan have about 170 to 180 nuclear warheads each. India's nuclear warheads are about 10 to 40 kilotons. Some of them, a handful of those weapons, can go all the way up to 200 kilotons. Pakistan's are a little less powerful. They have warheads that are about 5 to 40 kilotons. analysts and war experts estimate that a nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan, not even one that totally depleted their nuclear arsenals, just a nuclear exchange that is entirely possible and maybe probable,

could kill an estimated 125 million people in a week. Almost instantly, 125 million people just vaporized. That does not count the fallout. that does not count radiation, that does not count their great-grandchildren getting cancer a century down the road. Just instantly, 125 million people gone. Because India is a really populous country. It's the most populous country on Earth. What that would mean for the rest of the world, famine for millions of people, not just because of the region where the nukes were detonated, but because of the fallout, because of a decline in global temperatures, because of an increase in UV radiation.

you'd have major agricultural problems. You would certainly have famine affecting millions of people, maybe affecting billions of people. So that would be bad. What's the good news? Is there any hopeful news? There is, which is that India and China, another one of its neighbors,

India and China, were shooting at each other for like three years, just about two or three years ago. People don't even really remember this anymore, but between 2020 and 2022, there were border skirmishes between India and China. India and China, the two most populous nations on Earth, major emerging markets, China, especially really trying to become a superpower, but India on the track to be a really powerful country as well. And they were actually just shooting at each other for like three years.

That didn't turn into nuclear war. So maybe we'll be okay. That said, I feel a lot better when, fully developed nations that don't historically hate each other for centuries and acutely since partition are the ones that are maybe going to war with each other because there's a little bit more restraint built in in Indian Pakistan. The situation seems to be spiraling totally out of control. So anyway, we'll see. I guess the question is, will we first get a new pope or will we first be plunged into nuclear winter. We don't know. We don't know. We don't predict the news.

But we do not have a Pope yet. There was black smoke that came out of the Sistine Chapel last night. And this morning, I guess we still don't have a Pope. In order to pick a Pope, a papal candidate needs to attract 89 votes. the papal candidate needs to get a two-thirds majority of 133 cardinal electors, and that hasn't happened yet. According to the reporting and the odds books, again, it's not all that useful because the cardinals are sworn under pain of excommunication to keep the proceedings secret. But the scuttle but around Rome is that the Vatican Secretary of State, Paralin, who is a kind of a liberal candidate and would probably continue the Pope Francis Pontificate. Parallin was considered the frontrunner,

now reporting as saying his star has faded a little bit. According to the Wall Street Journal, again, we don't know who they're talking to. You really have to take this with a grain of salt. It's like when you hear leaks out of the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court, the really serious proceedings are just justices in a room. The most junior justice has to go out and get coffee. There are not a lot of staff members.

So if there is a leak coming, either, because one of the justices has leaked it, and so that person doesn't have a lot of credibility because that person's lied. Or it's just totally made up. Well, all that, even more so with the Cardinals, because they're under pain not just of bad press or, you know, partisans are not liking them.

They're under pain of excommunication. In any case, what the journal says is, interviews with Cardinals and their confidants reveal a wide open race. Whatever support Perilene might have quietly amassed before Francis died has been severely tested, as cardinals from around the world have converged in Rome for pre-conclave deliberations. What does this mean? What's the 30,000 foot view?

I think that the cardinal electors are recognizing that the Francis Pontificate had a lot of problems, had a lot of problems, and I don't think they want to go there again. There's an old expression in Italian that a thin pope follows a fat pope, and a fat pope follows a thin pope, that the way that the church elects popes is you don't get the exact same kind of pope all the time, all the way in a row, sometimes you want to flip it. You know, you say, okay, we've gone a little too much in this direction, we want to go in this direction now.

And I think now that the period of mourning is over and, you know, when a person dies, we say demortuis, nil nisibonum. We say nothing but good about the dead. But now that the period of morning is over, we can be a little more clinical and critical of the physical of the people. Francis Pontificate. It was chaotic. It was confusing.

It was scandalous in some ways. There were a lot of problems to it. Okay. So I think, not that the Cardinal electors are listening to my podcast in the Sistine Chapel right now, but a candidate who is viewed as Francis 2.0 is not a candidate that we want. Not that you asked our opinion, but we don't want it. And I don't think the Cardinals want it.

I don't think we're going to get a Francis 2.0. least I hope not. Now, speaking of Christianity, Ben, not Shapiro, Ben of Ben and Jerry. So it's still a Jewish Ben, but a different Ben, a left-wing Jewish Ben, not a right-wing Jewish Ben, might be a Christian. Ben of Ben and Jerry's, who was just on Tucker's show, and he said, I love Jesus Christ. This really got my attention. I was very excited to see this. And then I heard the whole statement. In terms of a spiritual belief, I mean, I don't practice a religion. I was born a Jew. I love Jesus Christ. I think the words that he said are wonderful, are amazing. And, you know, I'm kind of distressed that a lot of organized Christian religions are not. not really, I don't know, abiding by the words of Jesus Christ.

I think if we could follow the words of Jesus Christ and take, you know, think about the sermon on the Mount and, you know, take his words seriously. We wouldn't be doing the stuff we're currently doing. Okay, I guess I got to correct my story before, because I said we don't have a pope, but I guess we do. Ben of Ben and Jerry has made himself the Pope. There you have it. He said, he goes, look, I don't practice religion. I don't really have to do anything. And I really hate organized religion.

And Christianity, the way it's practiced, all these churches are so wrong. But I love Jesus. And I think if just if the churches would just follow my interpretation of scripture, then things would be great. You know, look, the Catholic Church, which has existed for 2,000 years and has, you know, produced and been shaped by the great doctors and theologians. Yeah, they're a bunch of dumb idiots. They don't know anything. But me, an aging hippie with an ice cream company that I sold a few years ago, let me tell you, I know exactly what Christianity is about. And those guys, they should follow me. Abemus Papam! Abemus Papam Benjaminum! This drives me nuts. I really hope this guy is sincere. I want to be as fair as I possibly can and as charitable about what he said on Tucker. But this drives me nuts. There is much, much more wisdom for you to just imbibe and let flow over you. But first, you got to go to netseweet.com slash knolls. What does the future hold for business? Ask nine experts. You will get 10 answers. Bull market, bear market. Inflation's up. Inflation's down.

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The Christian churches are wrong, but I love Jesus. I love the words of Jesus. Okay. I hope he's sincere and he's really interested in becoming Christian and he pursues that. and I don't mean to mock his innocent or ignorant early stirrings of faith because he should follow that. That's a good thing to follow. But try to hear what you're saying. He says, I love what Jesus said.

I don't follow religion, but I love what Jesus said. What is religion? Religion is a habit of virtue that inclines the will to give to God what he deserves. What's one of the most famous things Christ ever said? He said that he's God. He said, before Abraham was, I am, he said, whoever's seen the son has seen the father. How do you square those two things? He says he's God.

So how can you say you're not religious? If you love what he says, you need to worship him. You need to believe in him. You need to serve him in this life and endeavor to enjoy him forever in eternity. If you really love Jesus's words. What Ben of Ben and Jerry's is saying here is something akin to. the old line that people don't quite believe in Jesus, but they think he was a great moral teacher.

C.S. Lewis eviscerates this line of thinking in mere Christianity. Because if Christ is not God, he's not a great moral teacher. If Christ is not God, he's a liar. He's a liar because he says he's God. And lying is not moral. Liars are not great moral teachers. So what is it? Is he a great moral teacher? Okay, then he's God and you need to worship him and you need to take him seriously.

When you say, I don't really like organized religion. Well, you know who organized religion? Jesus, that's who? Because Jesus chose specific people called the apostles and led them in a public ministry and then said, Simon Barjona, you are now Peter, you are the rock. And on this rock, I will build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it. I give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven, which you bind on earth will be bound in heaven,

what you lose on earth will be loosed in heaven, receive you the Holy Spirit, whose sins you forgive or forgive, who sins you retain or retained. Sounds pretty organized to me, doesn't it? And then the apostles organized themselves in the upper room after the crucifixion. And then Christ appeared to them again

and worked many miracles in his sojourn on earth after the resurrection before the ascension. And then you know what the apostles did? They remained really organized. And they went to all the ends of the earth and established churches. Our Lord gave us an organized church. So I don't mean to be too harsh on this guy.

But in some ways, you know, he's a little old for this kind of nonsense. And it's never too late. It's never too late to convert. But we got to speed things up a little bit here, Ben. If you really love Jesus and you really love what he says, then read what he says. and believe what he says. And then cut out the nonsense of, well, I'm not, I don't, I'd need to be religious.

I don't like religion. I don't like organization. I don't, I just, you know, I just kind of like the sermon on the mount, man. Do you? If you really like what he says, then follow it. Follow what he says. But don't, this picking and choosing and this preening and the pride. Can you imagine the pride to say, I, a guy who have not even converted to Christianity,

I just vaguely think I kind of like some things that Jesus said. I am going to judge the church. Ugh. No half measures, buddy. Because you know what else? Jesus warned about being lukewarm. Being lukewarm is a big problem. So be hot or cold.

Be a hardcore Vermont atheist hippie lib. Or be a Christian. I hope you're a Christian. I think it would be better for you to be a Christian. But don't do this scandalous middle ground. That's not going to help you. It's not going to help anyone. Speaking of worship and veneration,

Libs have erected a giant black lady in Times Square. This is a statue. I think it's a 12-foot-tall statue. But when I say it's a statue of a giant black lady, it's not even any black lady in particular. It's just a black lady. It's not Monique. It's not Oprah.

It's just a random, generic black lady. The Black Lady statue stands in contrast to two other statues, according to the Times Square Arts Group. Installed at ground level, on a wide low base, the work invites engagement with the hundreds of thousands of people who traverse the plazas each day. The woman ingrounded in the stars cuts a stark contrast to the pedestal permanent monuments, both white, both men, which bookend. Duffy Square while embodying a quiet gravity and grandeur. Grandure to the random black lady statue kind of standing with bad posture? I don't know about that. But who are those two current statues of?

Is it just two random white men in the way that this is a random black lady? No, they're two specific white men. One is Father Francis Duffy in Duffy Square. He was a World War II military chaplain. He's the most highly decorated cleric in U.S. history, really heroic a guy who would charge into gunfire to help soldiers. And the other one is George M. Cohan, the guy who more or less invented Broadway. He's the guy who wrote, it's a grand old flag.

It's a grand old flag. It's a high flying flag. And all these other great songs, really, really important to popular entertainment, musical theater, all the rest of it. In Times Square, on Broadway, it makes sense for him to be there. Why is this random black lady statue there? They tell us, it's to be a contract. to Father Duffy and George M. Cohen. It's to be a contrast to American symbols of heroism,

American symbols of virtue, American symbols of entertainment and popular culture. It's supposed to be an antithesis to America. That's not me saying that. That's them saying that. They are saying the point of erecting the random black lady statue is to be an antithesis to whatever America is. That's the intention. So we got to tear this stuff down. We have to stop. Not because it's a black lady. There are plenty of nice black ladies. Because the statue is in fact a rebuke of America as such. And we don't need that. We don't need that in our public square. You know, it's the debate over the statues is kind of like the debate over free speech, where the libs want to destroy a lot of things. and the conservatives then are backed into a corner where they say we can't have any standards at all.

So the Libs tear down statues of George Washington and Abraham Lincoln and Christopher Columbus. And we say, we conservatives say, you shouldn't tear down any statues. No, we should, even though Washington owned slaves, even though Jefferson owned slaves, certainly those Confederate guys, even though they did terrible things, we shouldn't tear down history. we need to we need total we can never take down a statue on the free speech today we need total free speech of all that's not really the argument the argument is no we we're going to keep up the Washington statue in part because we're not the Taliban we don't just blow things up for the sake of it but two because Washington's the father of our country we're going to keep up statues of Thomas Jefferson

because he played a really important role in the founding of our country I don't even like everything he said and did, but that's why we're going to do it. We're going to keep up statues of the Confederates because that was a civil war, ultimately that became over the freeing of the slaves. It's an important moment in our history, and because Abraham Lincoln said we will have malice toward none and charity for all, and we're going to come back together as a country. That's why we're going to do it. It's not because of some abstract idea that we can never limit any speech or never take down

any statues, but it's because it is good to have statues of Confederate soldiers when we look with malice toward none and charity for all. It's because it is good to have Washington up. It's because Christopher Columbus is a good man who founded our country and was one of the great men of our civilization. That's why. Because Father Duffy was a good and heroic guy

because George M. Cohen was a really, really important guy and a great figure of American entertainment. And random black lady intended to rebuke all the great men of history, that's not great. So we are going to tear that one down. I'm not saying we got to go full Taliban with the Buddha statues,

but we got to get rid of that stuff. statue. And we got to stop putting up statues like that. If you want to put up a black lady statue somewhere, make it a black lady statue that is a monument to our country that is good for us, that conduces to the common good. Don't make a statue, the explicit point of which is to tear us all down. We don't want, we're not going to tolerate that anymore, okay? Your Jedi mind tricks don't work on us anymore. The new right has given up this obsession, this fetish of procedural norms, and we're starting to consider seriously substantive goods. One moment, just give me one moment before we get back to that beautiful and important point. Go to PureTalk.com slash Knowles.

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real, you can learn a lot about a person through the yes or no game. Speaking of black people, that's been a lot of, a lot of racial focus this week. A lot of debating words and colors and things. Well, in any case, speaking of black people, the 27 NFL draft will take place on the national mall. So announces President Trump from the Oval Office. Starting a business can seem like a daunting task, unless, you have a partner like Shopify. They have the tools you need to start and grow your business.

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Muriel. So I want to thank you very much. Wow. So you see Muriel there. She's the super Lib Mayor of D.C. But she's a pretty sly politician, so I'm actually not even sure how ideological she really is. I think she's kind of just a player and an operator. I've even heard from some conservative. She used to be a little more reasonable than during BLM. She saw moments as she went with it.

Well, in any case, now she's standing right behind Trump. Thank you, Muriel. Oh, yes, sir. And you're nodding. Yes, sir, Mr. President. He's there with the NFL guys. Why? A lot of people.

I notice a lot of nerdy, conservatives scratching their heads. Why this? Why is the president bringing the NFL into the Oval office to announce as a big initiative that the NFL draft is going to take place on the national mall? Why the NFL went woke and supported taking a knee in BLM and why? And even why do we care about all this sports ball? And this is a distraction. And we just need to focus on the politics and the economy and all the spreadsheets and the, you know why Trump's doing it? because he's not a dork. That's why.

And I love that. I love that about him. That's one of my favorite things about him. He's not a nerd, man. That's why he's doing the NFL draft on the National Mall. That's why he's making a big deal about it in the Oval Office. That's also why he won the popular vote and reshape the Republican Party and attracted all sorts of constituencies that we have not been able to attract for decades.

That's why, because he's not a dork. And listen, man, I read a lot of books, okay? I read a lot of books. I own some bow ties. All right. I'm not sure I've ever watched an entire NFL football game in my life. So I'm not, I'm speaking a little bit from the outside here on what Trump is doing. But this is good and cool, actually.

It's good for nations to have games. It's okay. It's good. The one sport I watch is baseball. And I really love it. And it's good. It's good to watch a sport. and all polities need some kind of games as a diversion, as a way to express athletic excellence,

as a way to bring people together and have common culture. It's cool, man. It's all right to have a little bit of fun. It's all right to engage in things that are popular. Trump is bringing that in. The NFL, which has gone so left in recent years, Trump has dragged them. Trump has dragged them in to stand next to him in the Oval Office, and they are going to do the NFL draft,

which I have never once in my entire life watched, but which a lot of people do watch, the NFL draft is going to take place on his watch, on the National Mall, bringing in effectively America's favorite pastime. I wish baseball were still America's favorite pastime, but it's probably football now. He's bringing that back, and he's saying, all right, look, we got this problem

that the NFL has gone super woke and they hate America and they kneel for the American flag, not in a respectful way, but in a disrespectful way. And that's the problem. So either you can be like a bunch of dorks on the right and whine and complain about it, or I'm just going to bring them to heal. I'm going to, hey, get over here. NFL, get over here.

You're part of me now. You're doing my thing now. You're going to go stand by the American flag, and we're going to make you seem really cool and prominent and important. But you're on my team, okay? And you know what the NFL says? They say, yes, sir, follow the leader. This is really strong cultural leadership.

I'm still not going to watch it, but I'm glad that he's doing it. Speaking of major Trump wins, the Supreme Court has just dealt Trump a major, major victory that should really not even be newsworthy, but it is. President Trump can now ban trans-identifying people from the military. For now. It's not even that he can permanently ban the trans-identifying. people from the military. It's that the Supreme Court says, all right, the Trump policy to kick the trans out of the military again can go into effect even while lower courts are hearing

the cases as to why this should not go into effect. But this should just be common sense. So you got Sotomayor, Kagan, and Jackson, the most left-wing justices. They disagree with the rest of the court on this, but even moderates like Roberts, Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, Barrett, they go along with it here. They say, okay, that's fine, no big deal. Just to refresh your memory, I was on TMC yesterday, talking to the guys on there, and they were saying, Michael, this is crazy, isn't it? The banning trans from the military, I said, guys, do you know when trans identifying people were first ever allowed to serve in the military? 2016.

It was the tail end of the Obama second term. And then five seconds after that, Trump got rid of the policy, and then they booted Trump out, and Biden got into office somehow, and then he put the policy back in, and then Trump pulled it out. But if this is such a big deal, this is such an important matter of human rights,

how come Barack Obama, one of the most left-wing politicians we've ever had as president, how come he didn't institute this policy until the very tail end of his administration? Because it's obviously insane. The trans-identifying people who have sympathy from me have a severe mental illness that not only compromises troop readiness

because of all the social problems that causes, you know, dudes in the women's bathroom, and now we have women in combat, so that's going to create all sorts of problems. At the same time that we're told that there is a rape and sexual assault problem in the military, you're going to have a bunch of mentally ill men go into the women's bathroom and sleep in women's quarters. Are you out of your freaking mind? What's the matter with you? What is it matter with you? This is so insane that even Obama didn't do it for years.

But beyond that, you've got these severely mentally ill men who cannot perceive reality in a way that is even close to functioning. But then you're going to take taxpayer money, inject them with a ton of hormones, cross-sex hormones that don't belong in their body, and further diminish their physical fitness. Because we know we have multiple studies that are pretty substantial at this point that show that the trans procedures cause bone problems, cause all sorts of health problems, often shorten life. Psychologically speaking, they don't cure anxiety and depression and suicide. On the psychological front from the largest data set ever conducted on this topic, we know that all of those problems stay about the same and anxiety actually goes up.

Furthermore, we know that people who identify as trans have a suicide rate in order of magnitude, at least higher than the general population. So why on earth would you put these people into the military? Why on earth would you let these people hold a gun, even as civilians? How does this serve physical fitness or lethality or battle readiness? How does this even help these people? Does not. So anyway, I'm happy to see the Supreme Court ruling. I'm really scandalized that three justices on the Supreme Court didn't understand this.

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We could have, who knows? We could have a new pope. we have another new pope. Who knows? That's why you got to join. Don't be just a member of the Hoy Poloy. Speaking of changing social mores, New York Magazine has a scary new report out that all college students are cheating. And ChatGPT has unraveled the entire academic project. I was talking to Sweet Little Alisa about this the other day. Sweet Little Lisa, Ph.D., someone in academia and some other friends. It's not just that AI, look, many of you, the college students and high school students who listen to this show, you know this already. I'm not telling you anything you don't know. It's not just that AI is really starting to create new challenges for academia. It has instantly completely changed the way that education works in America. Because you can, in about three seconds, have a computer, write a term paper for you, and it's very difficult to prove that you cheated. that you didn't write it yourself.

So if you are in high school even or certainly in college, all those all-nighters that I pulled, all those ways, sometimes I tried to cut corners. Sometimes I'd skim the book. And then I'd, who knows, you know, you're writing your paper. It's got to be 10 pages. And you increase the size of the period. Did any of you ever do this?

You increase the size of the period from 12 font to like 13 font. So you're not increasing the size of the line spacing, but the period, but that kind of spreads it out. you save yourself a few sentences, all these kind of tricks. Well, now, instead of doing that, you're going to say, hey, chat Chabit, write me an essay on war and peace

in the style of Hilar Belloc after four drinks and then translate it into Taiwanese. Do the Taiwanese, do they have their own language? I'm expurgist Chinese. Anyway, please do that, chat, GBT.

And they'll just do it instantly. That fundamentally changes every. everything. And that's the headline here. Everyone's cheating their way through college. ChatGPT has unraveled the entire academic project. It's worth reading this because it's observing a real trend. I think it's the opposite, though. I think in many ways Chad GPT is saving the entire academic project because we have had this march for years and decades now that was accelerated by COVID to make college individual, abstract, on your own time, on demand.

We have decentralized the university. And it's not just been the left that's pushed for this. It's the right that's pushed for this too. In fact, in many ways, it's the right that's pushed for it more than the left. The right has said, you don't need to go to college. If you do, just do some online college. I, you know, just try to get your classes done, do it in your spare time. Don't go and live in a dorm and forget about your stupid professors. And I get it. Part of the reason that conservatives have said that is because the colleges were captured by the radical left and they teach about a bunch of stupid stuff now. And so I get the hostility toward the colleges. I feel it myself. But let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. And let's not believe our own press releases and forget what. what university education really is.

You are taught by teachers. Okay. There are people who are autodidacts and they read a lot of books, but sometimes they'll go a little quirky and they'll go a little off and they'll miss the meaning of the book because information is conveyed to you by teachers.

We are, to quote the great philosopher Kamala Harris, we did not fall out of a coconut tree. We are born into families. We are taught in our earliest lessons, in our earliest education, by our parents. And then by our extended family, then by our teachers in grade school and middle school and high school, then by our professors. Then that process of learning continues for the rest of our life.

We're taught by our superiors at our employers. We are taught in apprenticeships. We are taught throughout our lives. And knowledge is conveyed from a person to another person. We have pastors in religion. or religion is not just a thing you do individually. You have pastors, you have shepherds to lead. We're social creatures.

We have to be led. And in many ways, education is about, not just about cramming your head full of stuff, but about cultivating a love and an inclination toward, cultivating a desire to learn. And we learn from people. So anyway, that's a long, flowery way of saying, I'm glad that chat GPT is destroying much online education. I'm glad that chat GPT is destroying the decentralized do-it-on-demand kind of education.

I don't think everyone needs to go to college. I don't think everyone needs to give a liberal arts education. But if you're going to do it, go to a place with a teacher and form real human relationships with teachers and classmates. That is how people actually learn. It's not all about books. It's not all just about cramming your head full of knowledge. That is in many ways a very left-wing understanding of what education is.

It's about human beings and relationships and love. Now, speaking of well-educated people, we got a little tea. I know I said I have fruity millennial seltzer in here, but I got a little tea, too. This tea down for the Republican Party down of Florida, because Ron DeSantis, the very effective and once very, very popular governor, Ron DeSantis is facing an investigation of his wife's charity. So what is this about? Axios has a big story on this today.

Inside DeSantis is made for TV fall in Florida. Wait, what? DeSantis is falling? Who knew? What's that about? The story is about this charity that Casey DeSantis has, Hope Florida Foundation. And according to the reporting, at question is whether the $10 million donation,

she's focusing on this $110 million donation to the Hope Florida Foundation was money from a settlement agreement involving the state's largest Medicaid contractor, Centine Corp, after Florida was overbilled for Medicaid. Okay, I think I'm following, so that $10 million maybe came from a settlement from a Medicaid contractor

because Florida was being overcharged Critics say a portion of that settlement, all of which was intended to be returned to state and federal coffers, was sent to the Hope Florida Foundation and eventually ended up in the hands of political groups that campaigned against a ballot measure to legalize marijuana. All right, whatever, I'm lost. I'm lost. Don't care. Huh? Maybe $10 million when instead of going to a governmental organization went to an NGO that does some charitable stuff. but some of the people who work for the NGO, don't like marijuana, and whatever. Who care? I don't care. What is this? I'll tell you what, this story is not about whatever this is, for sure.

No one cares about $10 million and the people who oppose marijuana. No. The story is not that Casey DeSantis's charity did anything wrong. I don't really see any evidence that Casey DeSantis' charity did anything wrong. This story, the political story is, that Florida legislators would investigate, Casey DeSantis' charity in the first place. That's the political story. Ron DeSantis is supposed to be the man.

Most effective governor in Florida. His reputation with Republicans was damaged a bit because he went up against Trump and the Republican presidential primary. But the guy's done a great job as governor and he had a total lock on that state and he was super popular. And when he said jump, the Florida legislator said how high. And now they're investigating his wife's charity. And coincidentally, they're investigating his wife's charity right around the time that

his wife, Casey, is floating the idea of a run for governor herself. That's interesting timing at a time when another Florida politician, Byron Donald's, who is a favorite of Trump world, is also running for governor in Florida. Okay, now I think I'm starting to get it. This whole story about the investigation and the Florida legislators and the nonprofit in Florida and this, you know what it's really about? It's about the 2028 presidential race. And it's about the strength of the DeSantis political operation. It's about whether or not DeSantis will have been out of office too long to run for president in 28. Perhaps if DeSantis' wife is the governor in Florida, then maybe that'll give him enough political presence that he could launch a campaign. But other people want that

governorship. And so even though DeSantis has been a phenomenal governor in Florida, maybe there's going to, what this is about is a push and pull for the future of the GOP. That's it. And they're all pretending that they're talking about some nonprofit in Florida. they're not. They're talking about who is the heir to Trump. They're talking about what is the future of MAGA. They're talking about what does the post-Trump Republican Party look like.

Now, we're talking about all sorts of. Who's the next president? Who's the next pope? Today is Theology Thursday. Very fitting during a conclite. The rest of the show continues now. You do not want to miss it. Become a member use code.

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