The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1737 - CONFIRMED: Biden Stage 4 Cancer Cover-Up EXPOSED

Episode Date: May 19, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Former President Joe Biden has cancer, which should not come as a surprise to anyone because he told us all in 2022. But that was before his staff and his doctor and the media apparently lied to cover it up. Then a pro-life law in Georgia is supposedly forcing a brain-dead woman to be kept alive to support her pre-born baby. Is that true? What does that all mean? And speaking of babies and bioethics, an IVF clinic was just firebombed by a radical leftist. I'm Michael Knowles. It's the Michael Nulls show. Welcome back to the show. President Trump has officially declared Taylor Swift is no longer hot, and Bruce Springsteen is a dried up prune.
Starting point is 00:01:00 This is now official national policy. This is a declaration from the White House. So be it, Nehill Obstott. Hold on. Pause. Whatever. Hold on. We'll get back to that point in a second. First. I want you to go to shopify.com slash Knowles. You know, I have started a few businesses in my years in actually different fields. And one thing that I wish that I knew about when I was starting my businesses was Shopify. Shopify is the commerce platform behind millions of businesses around the world and 10% of all e-commerce in the U.S. We even use it for our own Daily Wire Shop to make sure that things are running smoothly and efficiently so you can get all the goods. Now, you might be asking yourself, what if I can't design a website? What if I'm worried people I haven't heard about my brand, not a problem?
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Starting point is 00:02:42 On Friday, he was diagnosed with prostate cancer, characterized by a glisten score of, of nine grade group five with metastasis to the bone. So the cancer is metastasized. This is apparently a stage four cancer, really, really bad stuff. So, you know, we all pray for people when they're sick and suffering. So it's good to pray for Joe Biden. It's also good to have a critical eye to see that we have been lied to politically. Why is this information coming out now? is it just a coincidence that as Jake Tapper's book is coming out, completing the Democrat throw of Joe Biden under the bus, Jake Tapper's book that says that the media lied about Biden's health decline and the White House staff lied about Biden's health decline and everybody lied about it to try to keep him on the ticket. And now they've all realized Mayaculpa, Mayaculpa.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Now you have this story about Joe Biden's different health decline, not a cognitive health decline, but a cancer. and this just apparently was discovered. You don't really just discover stage four prostate cancer. A lot of guys have prostate cancer. It's a relatively common cancer, but you don't just discover it generally, especially if you are the president of the United States, you have access to the best doctors in the world.
Starting point is 00:04:09 You are constantly under medical scrutiny. You don't, that doesn't just happen. So when did they discover it? I have here a news article about how Joe Biden was totally, quote, fit for duty last year after his annual physical. Joe Biden's doctor was a Kevin O'Connor said that Biden has peripheral neuropathy and his both feet, gastroesophageal reflux, he's got heartburn, allergies and little spinal arthritis that are all being treated. But otherwise, the president feels well, and this year's physical identified, no new concerns. He continues to be fit for duty.
Starting point is 00:04:50 That was last year. This year, he's got stage four prostate cancer that's metastasized to the bone. Were there any signs? There were signs. Two years before Joe Biden's doctor said that he's totally fine and fit for duty, no worries, no cancer, no nothing. Joe Biden told us that he had cancer. And because it was a four-lane highway that was accessible, my mother drove us and rather than us to be able to walk. And guess what?
Starting point is 00:05:22 The first frost, you know what was happening. It had to put on your windshield wipers to get literally the oil slick off the window. That's why I had so damn many other people I grew up have cancer. And why can't for the longest time, Delaware had the highest cancer rate in the nation. So at the time, some of us heard this and said, wait, Joe Biden has cancer? He just said he has cancer. And of course, the liberal media went into overdrive. They said, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:05:49 I know he just told you he has cancer, but he doesn't really have cancer. You didn't hear that. He didn't really say that. Pay no attention. These are not the droids you're looking for. So Associated Press right here. No, I'm sorry. This is this Reuters or the Associated Press?
Starting point is 00:06:03 No, this is the Associated Press? Fact focus. Biden Cancer remark. confusion. Just read you a little bit of it. Here are the facts. Claim Biden announced that he has cancer. Right-wing accounts quickly began sharing a clip of this remark with the claim that Biden was revealing he had cancer. Where'd you get that crazy idea? Just because he said he had cancer? But Andrew Bates, a White House spokesperson, confirmed on Twitter, that Biden was referring to the publicly disclosed fact that he had skin cancer removed before he became president.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Well, hold on. He said, that's why I have cancer. If you're saying he had cancer in the past, but the cancer was removed, why would he say I have cancer? No, no, no, listen here. Listen here. You don't understand. Biden doesn't know what he's talking about. You didn't hear what you thought you heard. The AP concludes in a November 2021 memo summarizing Biden's health, Dr. Kevin O'Connor, Biden's physician for more than a decade, acknowledged that Biden had several localized non-melanoma skin cancers removed with Mo's surgery before he started his presidency. Yeah, or he just had cancer, like he told us, and like the right-wing kind of crazy conspiracy accounts heard and reported, and now Biden's family is admitting. What's more likely? It's always good to pray for Biden.
Starting point is 00:07:26 That said, the guy's 82 years old. The male life expectancy in the United States is 75. So he's kind of playing with the House's money at this point. everyone's going to die at some point. The political takeaway here, it would appear overwhelmingly likely that his doctors lied and that his press team lied.
Starting point is 00:07:48 I guess that his family lied, and they all just lied. And then the media, the Associated Press, which were they actual reporters and investigative journalists, would hear the president admitting it has cancer and look into that. But instead, what does the Associated Press do? They just repeat the propagandist for the White House's blanket denial like Provda, and they don't look into it any further.
Starting point is 00:08:12 No, no, no, I know Joe Biden just said he had cancer. But don't worry, his cleanup artist, propagandists just said that isn't true. So anyway, we're the Associated Press and Democracy dies in darkness, and we're the fourth estate, and we're the intrepid journalist. So we'll just print that. What a joke. What a joke. The big takeaway from all of this. in some ways, perhaps this release is trying to do damage control over Jake Tapper's book,
Starting point is 00:08:38 which Jake Tapper's book, admitting that Biden was in decline, was trying to do damage control over the media's complete failure to their own audience, mostly liberal audience, to report on Joe Biden's failing health. It's all, it's damage control all the way down. And the irony of it is, the thing that they were after, holding on to power, most likely could have best been accomplished by just keeping Joe Biden on the ticket. Had Joe Biden remained on the ticket, if he has metastatic cancer that is, you know, he's an elderly man, he's well past the life expectancy, Kamala Harris could have probably been president.
Starting point is 00:09:17 It's very, very possible, even likely, that Kamala Harris could have ended up president had the Democrats not thrown Joe Biden under the bus. And they continue to throw Joe Biden under the bus again and again and again. And this doesn't even look that bad for Joe Biden. Joe Biden was at least honest with us, it appears. And he said, yeah, I got cancer. It's just the experts, the media, the established powers. They lied.
Starting point is 00:09:42 I have an episode of Michael And right now with one of the chief vaccine dissidents, the guy behind the 1998 Lancet study that caused a lot of questioning about the MMR vaccine. I told him in the interview. I said, I'm not an anti-vaxxer. I'm not anti-institutional. I'm not anti-expertise. I'm really not. But today, I have to be skeptical of expertise. I have to be skeptical of the public health authorities because they lied to me. Exema is unpredictable. But you can flare less with ebbglyse. A once-monthly treatment for moderate-tiss disappear eczema. After an initial four-month or longer dosing phase, about four and ten people taking ebb glist achieved itch relief and clear or almost clear skin at 16 weeks.
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Starting point is 00:11:23 So me, not an anti-institutional guy, not an anti-vaxxer, not anti-experience, the only rational reaction that I can have to their squandering their credibility is doubt and skepticism. This denial of Biden's health, which now is undeniable, didn't just come from the media. It didn't, it came from the White House physician. And these people ask us why we don't trust them. We got to talk about these things. We also have to talk about the brain-dead woman who is supposedly being forced to be kept alive to save her baby. The pro-abortion people are up in arms.
Starting point is 00:12:04 They said, this is an abuse. Stop what you're doing. Hold there. We'll get back to my very important story. First, though, I want you to go to puretalk.com slash knolls. Pure Talk, my wireless company, a veteran-led company, believes that every man of woman who has faithfully served his country deserves to be. proudly fly an American flag that was made in America. That is why Pure Talk is on a mission
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Starting point is 00:13:08 to America's wireless company, Pure Talk. April Newkirk is the mother of Adriana Smith. Adriana Smith is a 30-year-old woman who is being described as brain dead. But April Newkirk, who would like to pull the plug, is not allowed to pull the plug in the state of Georgia, supposedly because of a pro-life law because Adriana Smith is pregnant with a 21-week-old baby. And the baby's grandma wants to be able to pull the plug on the daughter and kill the baby. but the doctors supposedly following the pro-life law say that the grandma's not allowed to kill the daughter and the baby even though the daughter is supposedly already dead
Starting point is 00:13:56 even though she's not really dead because if she were really dead, the baby would be dead too. Are you confused scientifically, ethically, a lot of people are? Newkirk, the grandmother, says that she's not allowed to take the daughter off the ventilators in order to protect her grandson and she says it should have been left up to the family, according to NBC. I'm not saying that we would have chose to terminate her pregnancy, that is kill the baby.
Starting point is 00:14:20 But what I'm saying is we should have had a choice. I'm not saying I would have killed my grandson. I'm saying I should have had the choice to kill my grandson. I don't want to sound callous. This woman presumably is grieving the very likely death of her daughter. But the reaction to any tragedy should never be the desire to kill an innocent baby. should have been left up to the family. I'm not saying I would have killed my grandson,
Starting point is 00:14:48 but I'd like to have been able to do it. Now, even the media are reporting, it is not really clear that the reason this woman can't kill her daughter and her grandkid is because of a pro-life law. That's not really clear. These are very nuanced discussions when we're talking about brain death. And this is the deeper issue here. Because the part that most people are just accepting unquestioningly is the notion of
Starting point is 00:15:14 brain death. The woman is dead. She's just sort of still alive, but she's dead because she's brain dead, even though her heart's still pumping blood and her lungs are still taking in oxygen and she has machines that are helping her do that. But she's obviously alive because the baby's still alive, but she's dead. She's alive and dead. She's Schrodinger as patient. The deeper issue here is that brain death is kind of fake. What is death? What is death? Death in the traditional understanding is the moment that the soul and the body separate. Because in the traditional understanding, human beings are both soul and body. Now, in modernity, we like to deny the soul. What's weird is we also sometimes like to deny the body. Sometimes we like to say we're
Starting point is 00:16:04 only a body and we're not a soul. That's materialism. And sometimes we like to say we're only a soul and not a body. So that's what the transgender ideology is largely about. I say, I know my body might be entirely one way, but my true self, that is to say, my immaterial self, that is to say my soul, is to say my soul, is a different way. And I'm really my soul. I have nothing to do with my body. So we go back and forth. We're a little bit schizophrenic in modernity. But death, understood, traditionally, is the moment the soul and the body separate. Death is not the moment of the obliteration of the body, because there's still a body after death. It's a cadaver. But it's understood that at death, something changes. And you are, are no longer quite the same you after death. I don't maybe be pedantic or tedious here, but it's a little confusing. And clearly today we don't exactly know what death is because we have this nebulous, dubious concept of brain death.
Starting point is 00:17:00 So in the 1960s, this notion of brain death is developed primarily at Harvard. Because we traditionally understood the soul as leaving the body at the moment that your heart stops beating and your lungs. stop breathing and that's the end of it. But as technology advanced and you could keep people's blood pumping for a little while longer and air going through their lungs, then they said, okay, well, when all brain activity ceases, then you're dead, even if you kind of seem like you're alive. But that's a little bit unclear because your hormones might react in a different way. You might have other bodily functions that are not just your heart beating and your lungs pumping air
Starting point is 00:17:43 after supposed brain death. And this is a really important ethical question because people check that little box on the back of their driver's licenses that say, I'm an organ donor. But when you're an organ donor, you are generally still kind of alive when you're donating the organs.
Starting point is 00:18:02 In fact, it is the removal of the organs that kills you. If you're there and you've had a car accident or something, God forbid, and you're on a machine and your heart's still pumping, and your lungs still have air coming in and out of them, but you're supposedly brain dead,
Starting point is 00:18:18 then the thing that actually kills you is when they go in and take your organs. Is that ethically acceptable? All sorts of groups have weighed in on this. The institution that I look to for these kinds of matters, the Catholic Church, has weighed in and said that the notion of brain death can be acceptable when it is known with certainty that the person is dead.
Starting point is 00:18:42 But it's all kind of due to. If you go back to the original question, okay, what is death? It's when the soul and the body separate. Well, can we be so certain that the people who are supposedly brain dead are really dead? Seems to me the expansion of the notion of brain death is another utilitarian perversion of the law. A utilitarian perversion to say, look, it would be really helpful if we can harvest organs that are healthy. But the moment a person actually dies, their organs start to decay and the organs aren't really useful anymore. So what if we can redefine death? I mean, we can redefine marriage.
Starting point is 00:19:20 We can redefine man and woman. What if we can redefine death? And if we redefine death and move it just a little bit into the alive territory, then we can get these organs. And it will be a good thing because it will help people who need a kidney or who need a lung or who need a liver or something like that. So that would be really helpful. and all we got to do is maybe technically kill a lot of people. That creeping utilitarianism, that bioethical, dubious kind of Faustian bargain, that explains, I think, a lot of our, not only our scientific confusion,
Starting point is 00:19:56 but our moral confusion. So much so to the point that in this case, a grandmother can be complaining to the press because she's not allowed to kill her grandson because her daughter who's supposedly dead isn't really dead. As technology advances, you have to ask yourself, are we going to be able to use this in a better way for human flourishing, or with the amount of moral corruption that's already set in and moral confusion, are we going to have many more of these questions?
Starting point is 00:20:26 Speaking of babies and medical technology, there's been a car bombing at an IVF facility. This is a California fertility clinic. Someone drove up and blew up a car. Only one person died, the guy who blew up the car. Four people were injured inside. But when I heard this story, I said, oh, no, was this a radical kind of pro-lifer? Because pro-life people, myself included, have a lot of problems with IVF and the fertility clinics.
Starting point is 00:20:57 because virtually everything that they engage in is morally suspect, if not outright, clearly immoral. And there's a good end, which is babies, but all the steps along the way are really bad, like turning human beings into commodities and promoting actions that are gravely disordered and humiliating, and people shouldn't do, and purchasing eggs and renting wombs and creating children intentionally to deprive them of their natural mothers to fulfill the fantasies of single people and homosexuals. And, you know, it's just not sometimes implanting the wrong embryos and then having people sue over which baby to have ripping babies away from their surrogate mothers, the only mothers
Starting point is 00:21:40 they've ever known, sometimes just creating people with the wrong egg and the wrong sperm. And now you've intentionally created a person, or rather, you've intentionally created a person accidentally made of component parts from people who have never met each other. you setting them up for a life of suffering. Yikes. All sorts of problems. Was it a pro-lifer? No. It was actually a leftist. It was an anti-lifer. It was an antinatalist. That is to say, someone who holds the radical ideology that we shouldn't have more kids. Usually the antinatalists are motivated by some kind of left-wing eschatology like climate change, you know, in order to save the rocks and the Delta smelt. We have to get rid of all the people.
Starting point is 00:22:24 sometimes anti-natalism is just driven by selfishness, by kind of radical individualism, autonomy. But in any case, if pro-life is an idea and a campaign on the right, the thing that blew up this IVF clinic comes from the left. And now people are reacting to the story and they're saying, well, thank goodness, no one in the clinic was killed. I mean, it's a fertility clinic. Imagine all those babies, all these people they've invested their time, their hopes, their money into creating their babies. and this monster might have blown up those babies, might have killed those babies, a little bit before the clinic and the parents will kill them themselves. Because do you know what happens at a fertility clinic?
Starting point is 00:23:05 The vast majority of the babies who are created are killed. Because they're not used, because in the fertility industry process, many, many more babies are created than will actually be implanted and will actually be born. and then the rest of the babies, I just say the vast majority of the babies, are put into a freezer until the parents or the clinic want to just destroy them. And then they kill them. So what is the reaction? The reaction doesn't make any sense. Thank goodness he didn't kill all of those embryos before the clinic workers could do it themselves.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Thank goodness, those embryos might not have lived for another two days. Very strange. Also curious that on the IVF issue, you are now seeing criticism from the left and the right. And the left when criticism is wrong and the right wing criticism is right. But it is interesting that an issue that even I think about a year ago, most everyone, maybe two years ago, most everyone would have said, oh, this is unambiguously a good thing. What's wrong with more babies? Of course, there are all sorts of immoral ways to create a baby, including rape, for instance. It doesn't mean the baby is bad, but it means that good ends do not justify immoral means.
Starting point is 00:24:25 But now you're seeing all sorts of, as people begin to understand what IVF is, you are seeing a real movement against it. You're seeing a right wing movement against it, which is justified and peaceful and civil. But you're even seeing a left wing movement against it from the people who hate, from the people who hate people are willing to blow up cars to stop them. More pearls of wisdom are incoming first, though, go to jeremy's raisers.com slash father's day. You did not get here by accident. Well, maybe you did, but there was at least an intentional axe behind that. You got here because a man, a real one, raised you right. Honor him this Father's Day with Jeremy's Razors, with five stainless steel blades,
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Starting point is 00:25:26 Go to jeremy's raisers.com right now. That is jeremy's raisers.com right now. I mentioned earlier in the show, my latest episode of Michael Ann, the vaccine dissident, which might be being suppressed by certain social media algorithms, it would seem.
Starting point is 00:25:39 I don't know. I'm just looking at the analytics and it seems as though certain powers that be don't want this one to get out. This is, to my mind, one of the most important episodes I've done of Michaeland, definitely in the top five. I sat down with Dr. Andrew Wakefield for Michaeline the Vaccine Dissident. We dive deep into the science, the scandals and the questions, the CDC, doesn't want you asking,
Starting point is 00:26:04 covering everything from vaccine risks to public health coverups. Check out this teaser. I started getting calls from parents saying my child was perfectly normal. They stopped sleeping at night. They were screaming. They were in pain. The lights went out in their eyes. It was a very common description.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Doctors say, this is just part of autism. Get over it. Put your child in a home. Have another child and forget about it. What were they thinking? This is their quote. We are not going to be left with an orphan drug. And so it was decided to avoid that.
Starting point is 00:26:43 They would put it into one day old influence. Go watch the full episode right now. Subscribe for the ad for the ad. version on Daily Wire Plus. Speaking of young people, Taylor Swift is no longer hot, so declares President Trump. Quote, this is from Truth Social.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Has anyone noticed that since I said, I hate Taylor Swift, she's no longer hot? Question mark. Now, I guess here he means hot, as in she's no longer popular. But it's ambiguous, and he might be insinuating that she's ugly now.
Starting point is 00:27:25 and Trump has engaged in these kinds of fights before, most notably with Rosie O'Donnell. I don't remember Trump saying he hates Taylor Swift, but he put it in quotes in all caps. And then he also put hot in quotes and all caps. And there are going to be squishy Republicans. I hear them now. They're going to be boring people in the policy wonk beltway community on both sides of the aisle who say, this again. Trump was doing so well. Or the ones on the left will say Trump wasn't doing well, but this is even worse. So, oh, this again. But even the people on the right who think that
Starting point is 00:28:07 Trump's policy is generally good, they'll say, oh, he was doing so well. Why does he have to engage in these kinds of tweets again? Why does he have to engage in fights with pop stars? Oh, he did it with Bruce Springsteen too. Bruce Springsteen just came out and engaged. and this rant before a concert. And my country, they're taking sadistic pleasure in the pain that they inflict on royal American workers.
Starting point is 00:28:37 They're rolling back historic civil rights legislation that led to a more just of plural society. They're abandoning our great allies and siding with dictators against those struggling for their This guy, he's abandoning our greatest ally Ukraine, man. He, this guy, this Trump, he's turning away from democracy for dictators.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Screen door slams. So Trump responds. He goes, I see that highly overrated Bruce Springsteen goes to a foreign country to speak badly about the president of the United States, never liked him, never liked his music or his radical left politics. And importantly, he's not a talented guy. just a pushy, obnoxious jerk who fervently supported Crooked Joe Biden, a mentally incompetent, fool and our worst ever president who came close to destroying our country. If I wasn't elected, it would have been gone by now. Sleepy Joe didn't have a clue as to what he was doing, but Springsteen is, quote, dumb as Iraq.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Just a point, he used quotation marks here, and some people don't understand that. New Yorkers of a certain age do that. They use quotation marks as if to boldface something. I don't know. I know it's a quirk. People don't do it. But my, like my grandmother wrote like this. Anyway, that's what he's doing here. Dumb as a rock and couldn't see what was going on. Or could he, which is even worse. This dried out prune of a rocker, his skin is all atrophied.
Starting point is 00:30:07 On a keep his mouth shut until he gets back into the country. That's just standard fare. Then we'll see how it goes for him. Okay. And, and you know, all the, oh, all of the really smart people who wear tweed jackets and they go on all of the television. shows and they work at the think tanks and they read all of the policy papers and they just say, Trump, what are you doing this again? Why? Oh, he's so, if only you took his Twitter away. That's what people say. This is smart politics. Saying that Taylor Swift isn't hot anymore
Starting point is 00:30:48 when you're the 70-something year old president of the United States is not just not dumb politics, it's smart politics. Going after Bruce Springsteen this way is smart politics for a different generation. When you go after Taylor Swift, you're attracting the attention of millennials and zoomers. When you go after Bruce Springsteen, you're attracting the attention of boomers and Gen X.
Starting point is 00:31:09 This is not just not bad politics, it's smart politics because it is accessible to everyone. The dorks who just talk about their white papers on TV and at think tank lunches, they don't speak to everyone. Most people, even the people who are politically sympathetic to them, have no idea what they're talking about. Trump speaks to everyone because not only does he talk about, he does talk about policy, and he does talk about trade, and he does talk about tariffs, and he does talk about immigration, and he does talk about foreign policy. He also talks about Taylor Swift. Many, many more people can speak about
Starting point is 00:31:50 and be interested by a discussion about Taylor Swift, than they are discussing immigration. In a democracy, you need to talk to as many people as possible and persuade as many people as possible. There's an irony here. Bruce Springsteen is insinuating that Trump is a threat to democracy. Democrats have said this forever. Joe Biden's whole presidential campaign was predicated on calling Trump a threat to democracy.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Trump is the most democratic president. maybe that we have ever had. Andrew Jackson gives him a run for his money. Some of the progressives in the early 20th century give him a run for his money. But he might, I think he probably is because he is totally fluent in the pop culture. He is a pop culture icon and has been for decades, like 40 years at this point. And he knows that in a democracy, this is not true in an aristocracy. This is not true in a monarchy.
Starting point is 00:32:45 This is not true in a dictatorship necessarily. but in a democracy, you need to talk to people in ways that they understand that are accessible. You need to titillate people. You need to push their buttons. I'm not even saying this to be condescending or to suggest this is a bad thing and these unwashed toy polo. I'm interested in the Taylor Swift stuff. I'm interested in the Bruce Springsteen stuff. It's good to talk to those people.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Donald Trump is, all right, I'm willing to go all the way. I've considered the Andrew Jackson thing. I've considered the Teddy Roosevelt and the progressives thing. Trump is the most Democratic president we've ever had. So if you don't like that he's talking about the subjects of popular culture, don't blame him. Blame democracy. Speaking of the public discourse, a George Washington University student, the class spokesman at her commencement ceremony, dedicated her speech at an important moment of her life. This is a lovely honor at one of the more important moments of her life to explaining how she is ashamed to graduate because of this state of Israel or something.
Starting point is 00:33:57 For over a year, we have watched a genocide be committed against Palestinians. I cannot celebrate my own graduation without a heavy heart, knowing how many students in Palestine have been forced to stop their studies, expelled from their homes, and killed for simply remaining. the country of their ancestors. For the rest of us, these atrocities cause us to take stock in our own complacency in the imperialist system. I am ashamed to know my tuition is being used to fund genocide. Despite repeated calls from students and faculty to disclose all endowments and investments by the university and divest from the apartheid state of Israel, the administration has refused
Starting point is 00:34:40 to negotiate in good faith. Instead, they have repressed anyone with the courage to point out the blood on their hands. None of us are free until Palestine is free. Thank you. None of us are free until Palestine is free. I don't know what that means, and I certainly don't think it's true. I think I can be perfectly free no matter what is going on in the Levant. I would be much more sympathetic to the Palestinian cause if it's loudest proponents were not these people. Okay, this is it. I have a pretty open mind on the Israel-Palestine issue. I don't care that much about the state of Israel. I am broadly sympathetic to the state of Israel. I care about the holy sites a lot. I have a lot of friends who are very pro-Israel. It's not my top issue. I don't really care that much.
Starting point is 00:35:32 I can understand some of the gripes that come from the pro-Palestine side. But when these are the people leading the pro-Palestine movement, how am I supposed to get on board with this? These kinds of people are wrong about everything. That girl, I promise you, that girl giving that speech, wrong about literally everything. So why would she be right about this issue? Furthermore, I think about the Israel-Palestine issue. She wants us to think about it. Let's think about it. I have yet to hear anyone make a persuasive argument that the state of Israel is not justified in going to war against Gaza and even in continuing the war against Gaza. I sort of wish they wouldn't because I care about this more from the American national interest and the longer
Starting point is 00:36:18 this war goes on, the more volatility is created and the greater the risk of the United States being dragged into a war. So from the American perspective, I would kind of like the war to wrap up. But from the Israeli perspective, can someone please explain to me how the war is not justified? That Gaza invaded on October 7th and killed a bunch of people and took hostages. The state of Israel responded and still has not gotten all of the hostages. back. Furthermore, the state of Israel now is looking at Gaza and saying, okay, well, Hamas in power is an unacceptable security risk. We cannot tolerate that, so we have to do something to change it. Furthermore, the people in Gaza, when they had a modicum of self-government, chose to elect Hamas,
Starting point is 00:37:08 which carried out the attack. So if you're the state of Israel, it seems to me that pretty much all of the criteria of just war that we have understood from classical antipsychal, antiquity up through the Middle Ages, up to the present, are fulfilled here in going to war and in continuing the war. Can someone explain to me? I have an open mind. I am easily persuadable if someone can make a good argument. I haven't heard anyone making the argument. The only arguments I've heard are the arguments that this lady is making and the arguments that people just don't like the state of Israel and they want them to lose a war or something. But what is the argument? Usually what the argument comes down to is, well, the Palestinians, it's understandable. It's understandable that they would go in there and fly the hand gliders in and kill and rape and take a lot of hostages. Because, because why? Because the Israelis shouldn't be there in the first place. That's what it comes down to. And you heard this woman, this young girl, say that during her commencement speech. She said, I'm complicit in imperialism. It's not just the supposed genocide. It's not any of this. It's imperialism is the problem.
Starting point is 00:38:19 In other words, the Israelis shouldn't be there in the first place. Okay, and I kind of get that. Can someone make that argument for me? You had a declaration from the British Empire, which controlled the area, saying that you can have a homeland for Jews. Then you had a UN establishment of the state of Israel, and then the Israelis fought a war over it in 1948. So you might not like that. I don't know, you might have wish the war went a different way. You might have wish the UN didn't do that.
Starting point is 00:38:51 You might have wished the Balfour Declaration didn't take place. You might not agree with the religious or historical premises of Zionism or anything. Sure, that's totally fine. But if you actually trace all of these things back, I fail to see how you could say the Israelis are not justified in going to war. And I fail to see how if you accept the premise of modern nation states generally, you could say that the state of Israel is not justified in existing. And you might say, well, I don't believe in modern nation states. And okay, now we're all the way back at the Westphalian system. Now I guess we have to have another conversation.
Starting point is 00:39:22 But what is it? This is to me why I just can't get on board with the pro-Palestine activism, some of which crops up on the right a little bit too, is you're basically just, you have to rely on the arguments that these people are making, which are ultimately radical left arguments that undermine a lot of the other premises that you have. You think this woman's ready for another crusade? bring back King Baldwin to the Holy Land. I don't think so. It just doesn't hold up. So then you have to make common cause with these people, and then what are you doing? I don't know.
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Starting point is 00:40:30 This would have been on Thursday? Because I went down and took my family to the beach. I was on the beach for four hours and I came back looking like I'm from the Levant. Didn't I come back a little bit Levant or Guadalajara or something? I don't know. Got a little toast. It's a Sicilian blood. My favorite comment in any case from Thursday is from Maria Sanchez, S.F60J, who says, coincidentally, providentially, we need to bring back the Crusades. A lot of people are saying that. Well, we didn't get Pope Urban this time around.
Starting point is 00:40:59 We got a Pope Leo. We didn't get a Pope Urban this time. But who knows? Maybe. Maybe. Speaking of death, a lot of death in today's show. FBI director, Cash Patel, and Deputy FBI director, Dan Bongino. have made a shocking explosive claim that Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself. You said Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide. People don't believe it. Well, I mean, listen, they have a right to their opinion, but as someone who has worked as a public defender, as a prosecutor who's been in that prison system, who's been in the
Starting point is 00:41:35 metropolitan detention center, who's been in segregated housing, you know a suicide when you see one, and that's what that was. he killed himself. Again, you want me to get, I've seen the whole file. He killed himself. This is shocking, actually. Because Cash Patel, everyone was so excited for Cash Patel to go in, clean up all the corruption at the FBI.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Is there any greater symptom? Is there any greater expression of corruption at the FBI than how the FEC case was handled? And Dan Bongino, we love Dan. Now these guys are contradicting what everyone believes? What am I supposed to say to this? A lot of people are saying, well, cash, you got sucked into the system. Dan, he's sold out or whatever. Let me tell you something. I trust Dan Bonino. I don't know Cash Patel. That's no knock on Cash Patel. I just don't know the guy. But I do know
Starting point is 00:42:27 Dan Bonino. And I trust Dan Bonino. So now this is making me rethink my priors. Because two weeks ago, if you said, hey, Michael, Jeffrey Epstein killed himself. I'd say, Now, I remember I interviewed Bill Barr around this time. Bill Barr was the Attorney General, and I heard stories from people around Bill Barr that he seemed surprised when it happened. So it didn't seem like a setup from him at least. So hold on, what does that mean? Did Epstein kill?
Starting point is 00:42:57 No, on the one hand, there's no way Epstein killed himself. On the other hand, I trust Dan Bongino. So what is it? Did Cash and Dan get duped? Are they lying? I don't think they're lying. Did they, are they, or what did they not say? Is it possible that Jeffrey Epstein did kill himself, but that he was allowed to kill himself? Is it possible that when the cameras went out, it might just be that the cameras went out, I guess,
Starting point is 00:43:28 but when the cameras went out and the guards didn't do their checks and he was on suicide watch, is it possible that he just had an opportunity to kill himself? Is it possible that Jeffrey Epstein was even craftier than we realized, even more of a political operator than we realized. Don't forget, when Alex Acosta, the U.S. attorney who was involved in the Epstein case, was up for Labor Secretary under Trump the first time, he said, he was asked about Epstein and he said, I was told not to go hard on Epstein because Epstein belongs to intelligence. The whole Epstein operation seems like an intelligence operation, probably an international
Starting point is 00:44:02 intelligence operation. Is it possible that he, is it possible that Jeffrey Epstein did in fact kill him? but that there was nevertheless still a conspiracy to kill Jeffrey Epstein. I don't know. That is legitimately shocking news that makes you rethink your priors. Because unless you're just inclined to throw Patel and Dan under the bus, which I am not, then it's making me, okay. But even if he killed himself, it doesn't mean that he killed himself, right? It can be the case that Jeffrey Epstein, like technically killed himself, but also Jeffrey he didn't kill himself. Okay. Could be. Could be. I have to see if there. That kind of a statement is only
Starting point is 00:44:46 going to raise more questions. That is more questions than answers. Now, turning from intelligence related things to unintelligent things, a woman has sterilized herself and is celebrating that. This TikTok has gone a little bit viral. And it was sent to us by Natalia Tureanski. It was sent to the show. He said, Michael, take a look at what's going on in this TikTok. A woman having a party or at least a party for one, to celebrate sterilization. Tomorrow I'm getting permanently sterilized by having my fallopian tubes removed,
Starting point is 00:45:20 so I decide to throw a little celebration for that and to celebrate the fact I've made the choice to not have kids. Women tend to only be celebrated when they get engaged, get married, or have a baby, and it's rare to see them celebrated as individuals for their accomplishments outside of the family. So it was really important to me to make sure that I dedicated time and space
Starting point is 00:45:38 to celebrate myself and the same. life-changing decision I'm making, and I'm so excited about it. So at first I thought this must be satire, but I don't think it is. I was looking at the comments. I don't think it is. Notice she says, I'm having a celebration. And this is really sad. She's the only person there, which is a symbol of the thing she's celebrating, which is
Starting point is 00:45:58 cutting herself off from other people, cutting herself off from the most basic ties. Her choice. It's not that it just didn't work out for her. She never got married. Her family and friends died or moved away. not just, oh man, this is tough suffering, got to kiss it up. She's choosing to isolate herself, choosing to cut herself off from the closest bonds that one can imagine in this life. And then she puzzles at it. She says, you know, we celebrate pregnancy, but we never celebrate intentional sterilization.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Yeah. Why do you think that is? So much of liberalism goes down to, hey, For all of history, we've done this thing. But why don't we do the opposite of this thing? Maybe there's a reason. You ever think that? You ever think that maybe there's a reason why everyone everywhere has done a thing and a thing in a certain way? But liberalism begins from the assumption that everyone for all of history must have been wrong and deeply stupid.
Starting point is 00:47:11 and that you and you alone have figured it out. You know, why is it? Why do you think? Why is it that everyone's always done this thing? But I'm going to do the opposite. And why don't we do the opposite? Furthermore, who do you think she's trying to convince? These people don't post.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Relative to the people who have children versus those who have their fallopian tubes removed, relatively few people post on TikTok about their pregnancies. Relatively few. I know there are a lot of pregnancy TikToks. I'm saying, compared to the people who have children, which is most people, compared to the people who don't have children,
Starting point is 00:47:54 and not just don't have children, but actually intentionally sterilize themselves. Who's this lady trying to convince? Why is she making this big celebration that looks at? This gets down to, I put this in my commencement speech at Ave Maria, which is available at the Ave Maria YouTube channel right now. It does come down to that vision of George Bernard Shaw.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Some people see things that are and say, why I dream things that never were and say, why not? Which is the serpent in the Garden of Eve talking, the serpent in the Garden of Eden talking to Eve. The liberals think that's really good advice. It's actually a very bad advice, and it comes back to Karl Marx in the 11th thesis on Feuerbach, who says philosophy up till now has tried to understand the world,
Starting point is 00:48:32 the point is to change it. You're not going to change the world. And you should, it would not be good if you changed the world, even if you thought you could. Because it's good to be tethered to reality. So while you're watching the Michael and while you're watching this episode of the show, while you're watching all the extra content, you can also go over and watch my commencement speech at Avi Maria University. Don't change the world. And you can also watch Music Monday, which is coming up in the member room segmentum. Get two months off, DailyWire subscription with code NOLES at checkout, dailywire.com.

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