The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1747 - One Of History's Most Evil Men Dead At 98

Episode Date: June 4, 2025

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Elon is turning on the spending bill. This is what Trump is calling the big, beautiful bill. This is the legislative achievement that he can get through in this first year. And Elon says, I'm sorry, I can't stand it anymore. This massive outrageous pork-filled congressional spending bill is a disgusting abomination. Shame on those of you who voted for it. You know you did wrong. You know it.

Whoa. Those are tough words. Elon Musk was the buddy-in-chief. He was one of the most prominent figures at the White House. He's recently left the White House after his 130-day period when he could be a temporary government employee while still owning his companies. And then he comes out.

He's out of the White House for a few days, and he says the chief legislative achievement of the White House is a disgusting abomination. What is in the bill? Is Elon right? Well, first thing in the bill, largest tax cut in U.S. history. because what the bill primarily does is extend the 2017 tax cuts that Trump had during the first term.

This is why when I sat down with Scott Besson, the Treasury Secretary, I said, what's your thought on the big beautiful bill? He said, well, it's pass or fail for us. It's not we're going to get some of it through or maybe we'll try to get this part through. Or, you know, he said, look, it's all there. This is the bill that we can get through and it's either pass fail. If we pass, then we get to keep the tax cuts. We get to fund our government. if we fail, we're going to be responsible for the biggest tax hike ever.

So we have to get the bill through. And that's what they were after. The libs are going to call this a tax cut for the rich or something. That's not what it is. Americans earning between $30,000 and $80,000 a year. So $80,000, I think, is the median household income in the United States. People earning from $30,000 up to the median household income will pay 15% less in taxes. that is a massive tax cut, thanks to Trump, thanks to the big beautiful bill.

But it obviously will exacerbate deficits if all you got was the tax cut. So there is also deficit reduction. And to the White House's credit, it's the largest deficit reduction in about 30 years. There's all sorts of savings. And you know, the devil's in the details on this accounting. But $1.6 trillion in mandatory savings. That's pretty good. Because there's a lot of extra spending in there that the White House.

White House had to put in there because it's what President Trump ran on. It's what the people voted for. That's funding for the border wall. That's funding for ICE agents. That's funding for the military. That's funding for child tax credit, a kind of early version of a White House family policy. So it's all pretty good. Where do the cuts come from? The cuts come largely from waste and fraud. So the other thing you're going to hear about this bill from the libs is that it takes away health care from Americans and from children. and all the rest. Not so. It is taking some money out of Medicaid. Medicaid, which is a government health care program that is designed for a lower income American citizens, but it's not taking health care funding away from the people who deserve it and who are entitled to it under the

Medicaid plan. It's taking Medicaid funding away from the 1.4 million illegals who are on Medicaid, to use just one example. It's taking Medicaid funding away from people who are abusing the system who are not legally entitled to it, people who refuse to work, people who don't meet even basic requirements to avail themselves of health care and a welfare. So it cuts waste and fraud in Medicaid. It cuts some ridiculous, fraudulent money that was going to environmentalism and all sorts of other liberal pet projects. But all in all, as someone who's paid attention to politics closely for a long time. I think the big beautiful bill is pretty good. I think it's totally necessary for the White House to get this through, given the razor-thin majority in the House and better,

but still not massive majority in the U.S. Senate. I think it's totally necessary. I agree with the Treasury Secretary. It is past fail. But also, I think it's a pretty good bill. All in all, it doesn't spend nearly as much as we might fear that it would spend. But it's not the kind of of bill that a libertarian is going to love. It's not the kind of bill that's someone who had the expectation that this government was going to get rid of the budget deficit, that this administration was going to start paying down the national debt. That's going to be disappointing for that kind of person. I'm just a little bit surprised that Elon is surprised. Elon is very intelligent. Did Elon really think they were going to get a better bill?

I don't know why anyone would have that expectation. Not because Trump isn't good on his word, not because Trump isn't serious about cutting his, it's just, this is how our political order operates. We have been running massive annual budget deficits for 25 years. Republican, Democrat, she might say, well, that's the problem. need to turn that around. I know. I get it. I know. But we need to get a little deeper, okay,

rather than just pointing fingers and saying, you stupid members of Congress, it's easy to say that. I've said it many times. We need to ask ourselves, what is wrong with our political order that we keep running these massive deficits? The politicians don't just do it to play a trick on us. They do it because they believe that that's what they have to do to get elected. Because as H. L. Mankin says, democracy is the theory that the common man knows what he wants and deserves to get it good and hard. I think there is a deeper issue, deeper than Democrat, deeper than Republican, that explains why we run consistently massive budget deficits. All in all, I think the bill is pretty good. Now, the one little political operative thing that might be going on here with the Elon tweet that I haven't seen anyone else point out,

Elon might be tweeting this now as the kind of bad cop to Trump's good cop. And so it gets through the House. Notice, Elon didn't tweet this before the bill got through the House because the Republicans had like one vote they could play with in the House. Okay, it was so tight. It was unclear if it was going to get through. Now that we're in the Senate is a little more wiggle room. And because the bill is being passed through reconciliation, the Senate now can maybe make this bill a little better. Mike Lee, one of the great U.S. senators said, in response to Elon's tweet, said, we got to make this bill better. So the other thing that might be going on here, it might not be just that Elon's. having a temper tantrum and the bromance is over, what might be going on is that Elon's new job for the White House is to play the bad cop. So you got the good cop coming out of the actual White House and out of the Republicans in the House, and then you've got Elon playing the bad cop. I have to believe there's a little bit of that going on because of the timing because it's after the House passed the bill, but also because Elon's a smart guy. And anybody who is surprised by this bill who thought, who thought that this big, beautiful bill could possibly be any better on spending,

given our present political circumstances, just is not paying attention to the political circumstances. But now those senators who are afraid of the Elon Bucks in their primaries, maybe they'll try to tweak the bill, make it marginally better. We've got to talk about a lot of these things. We've got to talk about the great news coming out of Massachusetts because the Trump admin is ramping up its efficiency and productivity on deportations. I have a lot more to say, but I want you to all take one brief moment, take a beat, and go to PureTalk.com slash Knowles. Pure Talk, my wireless company, a veteran-led company, believes every man and woman who has

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American citizens how is it that we've gotten to this place Yeah, Democrats are nefarious and opportunistic. Yeah, Republicans are lazy. Also, maybe it's because we haven't had an above replacement birth rate since 1971 and we need mass migration to proper economy up. Maybe that's a deeper reason why we have this mass migration. Maybe it's because we no longer have a sense of national identity because the globalists have turned us into a kind of incoherent empire and the American right has been afraid of the word. Not that one, not nuclear nation. Maybe there are deeper reasons, economic, social, cultural, and political. Regardless, if Trump wants to make good on deportations, they got to seriously ramp it up. We are currently on pace to deport 200 to 400,000 illegal aliens per year. And those are actually pretty rosy numbers. So you do the math four years. That's between, what, 800,000 and 1.6 million illegals that we deport. As I just said, it's 11 million to 16 million illegal aliens. It's a conservative number. So you talk about what a almost a tenth of that total number, a ninth and eighth.

That's not great. Or maybe significantly less. Trump has. arrested, or ICE rather, has arrested 1,500 illegals in a single raid in Massachusetts. It's 1,500. That's a big number because a lot of these raids we're seeing it's three people, it's 10 people, it's 20 people. So 1,500, that's a big, big number. The question for the White House right now is, is this going to be a signal of a massive ramp up in deportations or is this kind of a one-off raid? And the political calculation that they're going to have to weigh in is whether or not the White House believes that mass deportations really are a mainstream majority political issue. That's what we all said after the election. We said Trump ran on mass deportations,

polish up the railway lines because we are going to keep the train aflowing all the way down past the Rio Grande. That's what he ran on, and Trump not only won the election, but he won the popular vote. So the analysts came out and they said, mass deportations are at a lot. a mainstream majority political issue. But as of yet, we haven't gotten the mass deportations. And I get why, because there are going to be some people who thought they wanted the mass deportations. And then when they see abuela getting hauled off by the ICE agents, they're going to change their mind and say it's cruel and turn on Trump. And Trump's going to lose his Hispanic support. There's some sign that Trump is dipped in popularity with Hispanic. So it's unclear exactly

why. So it's a live question. I'm not telling you, I got all the answers. I'm not to look I'm not I don't I don't work at the White House so I'm not going to be responsible for this but but they do have to make a decision are they going to make good on the mass deportations okay if they are just be aware at the current rate you're not going to get anywhere close to it and maybe that's just the calculator or if you if you do want to make good on the mass deportations we need these 1500 illegal raids like every day we need them constantly. And maybe that's what we'll get. We're at a, we're at an inflection point. We don't know exactly where we're going from here. Now, related to the, uh, putting aside the deportation issue for a second, which is very, very difficult to do. And again, I think we got to give the Trump administration a lot of grace here because we haven't seen these mass deportations ever. And we've seen mass, uh, migration for the past many decades and mass illegal migration for the past, at least a couple of decades. So there, there are structural,

impediments to Trump actually making good on this. But we are seeing some really good stuff in terms of new migrants coming over. That has dropped basically to zero. Under Biden, you had about three million illegals coming over per year. And Biden's saying, there's nothing I can do to stop it. We need the Republicans in the House and the Senate. We need Trump to get on the line and pass a bill. If I don't have a new bill, there's no way I can stop the mass migration. And then what? Trump comes in. He doesn't get a new bill. He just enforces the law. Which is why at the time, I and others said that Biden was totally full of it. There was no reason to pass a new migration law.

It was going to make the migration problem worse. And if Biden refused to enforce laws that were already on the books, there's no reason to believe he'd enforce a new law that was put on the books. Well, Trump totally proved that because the illegal crossings have dropped basically to zero. And the Washington Post is scratching its head. Washington Post is asking about, where is it? I have the article right here somewhere. Yeah, yeah.

This is great. Washington Post. The mysterious drop in fentanyl seizures on the U.S.-Mexico border. So mysterious. We were seizing a lot of fentanyl that was coming originally from China, making its way through Mexico, and coming into America to murder 75,000 American citizens per year. It was happening, and now that's not really happening as much. What changed?

I'll just read you the first paragraph or two. Mexico City, after years of confiscating rising amounts of fentanyl, the opioid that has fueled the most lethal drug epidemic in American history, U.S. officials are confronting a new and puzzling reality of the Mexican border. Fentanyl seizures are plummeting. It's weird, just about since something changed in Washington. The phenomenon has received little notice in Washington, where the Trump administration has made fentanyl trafficking.

African cartels a national security priority. Narcotics of all kinds are pouring across our border, said a White House statement in March, announcing stiff tariffs on Mexico and Canada. New data suggests a more complex story. The U.S. government's average monthly seizures of fentanyl at the Mexican border have dropped by more than half from 1,700 pounds in 2024 to 746 pounds this year, according to CBP. So weird. What on earth could have changed?

Might it have something to do? with Trump stopping the illegal crossings. By the way, even with Trump stopping the illegal crossings, there's still a lot of fentanyl getting through. Because fentanyl is a top priority for the cartels who control the border. So even with that, you're still getting a lot of fentanyl. But it's real head scratcher, isn't it? When you enforce the law and shut down the border,

fewer bad things get across the border. This is a version of that story made famous by the journalist Fox Butterworth, I think, his name? Bucks Butterfield, something like that. Where he said, crime keeps dropping despite prisons filling. As if those two were contradictory rather than went hand in hand. Yeah. Yeah. Turns out when you elect a guy who runs on stopping illegals from bringing drugs into our country, and then he actually does that, turns out you get fewer drugs in the country. Washington Post, man, what what colleges do they graduate from? What what does it take to be a writer at the Washington Post? To be obtuse. I think that's

all you're top of the resume. I am extremely obtuse. Oh, you're hired. Here's your desk. Here's your newspaper, Fedora. Here, go. Let's get on some stories where you express your befuddlement. Speaking of poison, the creator of the abortion pill is dead. He's, you know, he didn't die flipping his core of debt. The guy was 98 years old. His name was Etienne Emil Boughieu And he helped develop the oral drug RU 486, which is more commonly known as

Mifipristone. And his widow has issued this statement. His research was guided by his commitment to progress through science, his dedication to women's freedom, and his desire to enable everyone to live better and longer lives.

I shouldn't laugh. It's so dark, I shouldn't laugh. His research, his creation of the abortion pill was motivated by his desire to enable everyone to live better and longer lives. This man bears greater responsibility

for shortening the average lifespan on earth than anything since the bubonic plague the black death probably including the black death over enough of a time span and his widow says

oh he just wanted to make people live longer doesn't that just sum it all up when you cooperate with evil and when you fall into sin even the very things that you think you're trying to do are totally undermined you get the opposite

a true Faustian bargain there's a phrase de mortuis nilnisi bonum you know nothing but good say nothing but good of the dead I generally try to adhere to that in this case though this is such a live political issue i think we need to be a little more blunt this man etienne amiel beauyue is one of the most evil men ever to walk the earth much more evil than hitler much more and not even close not even close much more evil than Stalin there is no comparison

this man because of his dogged pursuit of this drug this drug that is intended to kill babies in the womb. This man is responsible for the murder of an estimated, and we don't have the exact number, but an estimated conservative estimate, five to seven million babies in the United States alone. When you add in the rest of the world, most conservative estimate possible, this man is responsible for at least tens of millions of deaths, maybe already over 100 million, and they're just getting started. The abortion pill is still rising in the total percentage of abortions that it's responsible for. The official number, I think, is 60 or 63%, but I've spoken to people who are a little more on the ground with how the

abortion industry works. I'm told it's north of 70% at this point. Okay, no signs of slowing down. this man who is going to get eulogies in the New York Times and the Washington Post, I'm sure, one of the most evil men ever to live. To put in perspective, the amount of pure needless human suffering this person has caused, nuclear bombs have killed 214,000 people ever. This man has so far killed at least tens of months. millions, at least. No end in sight. At least with Hitler, you say, Hitler killed however many millions of people, you know, eight million people total. I don't know. It depends on how much of the

war you blame on Hitler, but 10 million people. I don't know, whatever. For Stalin, you say, he killed 20 million people, 40 million people, 50 million people, I don't get, however many millions of people. Now they're dead. Now they're not responsible for more deaths. With this guy, Bo You, he's going to be responsible for deaths into the future until the end of time. And not just any kind of death. You think of someone like Oppenheimer, you know, who created the atomic bomb. Say, well, you know, he was just trying to work on science and progress and yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I get it. But first of all, bombs can be used in a justified way because there is such a thing as just war. There is no such thing as just murdering a baby. It's just murdering a baby, which is always unjust.

With Oppenheimer, you could say, well, a nation has a right to defend itself against threats, and the enemies of the United States were working on the bomb. And so it was, yeah, there are all sorts of justifications for creating the nuclear bomb. And even still, people view him with a great deal of moral doubt. He's responsible for a little over 200,000 deaths ever. There is no moral justification for creating this drug and promoting this drug. This is a reminder. We should pray for the guy's soul.

some people don't believe in praying for the dead, but it's a very traditional Christian practice. So we should pray for a soul. We should certainly pray for the souls of his many millions of victims. And we should, as a political matter and a personal matter, remember for ourselves the enormity of the amount of evil that a single person could do. Put a pause on my pearls of wisdom. I want to tell you about Shopify.com slash Knowles.

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That is Shopify.com slash knolls. Shopify.com slash knolls. Folks, three-fingered mummy-looking things. Alleged alien abductions. Giants! In this episode of Michael and the rogue archaeologist. Part two, I continue my conversation with explorer and all around Indiana Jones, Timothy Alberino. After our previous episode is left on a cliffhanger, we discuss his most

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Let me tell you the most compelling thing, though. Two of the mummies are pregnant. Maybe there is a cryptoterrestrial, non-human race, species, inhabiting planet Earth, probably subterranean. It sounds crazy. It sounds absolutely crazy. Even according to the Smithsonian's own records, there were the remains of people of unusually large stature were discovered. What does it mean for us? What does it mean for everything from our human

nature to salvation history if that actually happened? Well, those are the essential questions. Watch the full episode. Now on the Michael Nol's YouTube channel for the full uncensored ad-free version, subscribe to DailyWare Plus. Speaking of reprobates, Harvey Milk might have his name wiped off a U.S. Navy ship. Secretary of Defense Pete Higg-S.-Seth is reportedly looking to remove Harvey Milk's name from the ship. USNS Harvey Milk, which is, what is that? Like an oil ship or see? Yeah, it's an oiler ship.

This according to military.com, looking at a memo from the office of the secretary of the Navy. So the office of the secretary of the Navy has the power to name Navy ships. And I, you know, I come from a Navy family, actually. My grandpa was a Navy captain. Number of members of my family have served in the Navy. So I've been to plenty of Navy naval bases over the years. I was at the christening or some, I forget if it was the christening or one of the events in the commissioning of the USS Michael Mansour, Michael Mansour, a real naval hero.

And the ships are named after all these sorts of great naval heroes. And then there's Harvey Milk. Harvey Milk did serve in the Navy. He was discharged without an honorable discharge. because he was a little bit of a derelict, you know, a little bit of a reprobate. And he proved this in his later political career when he was involved in politics in San Francisco and was known for preying on young runaway boys, minors. He was a pederast, this guy.

This guy in his 30s at least was preying on like a 16-year-old boy. I mean, this is a true degenerate Harvey Milk. And then he was killed in actually just a matter of workplace violence. but he's become a martyr for the pseudo-religion of LGBT L.MNOP. In any case, his name should leave the ship. There's a great move from Pete Hankseth, great move from the Pentagon. I think as a matter of morality and justice, Harvey Milk should not have his name on the ship.

But also, just as a practical matter for the U.S. Navy, having a ship named the U.S.NS-Hurvy was not helping the Navy beat the allegations, okay? You know, people always, there are rumors about the Navy. As I told you, I come from a Navy family. I, you know, they're all the jokes that people make about the Navy. Well, having a ship named after Harvey Milk does not allow the good men and women of the United States Navy to beat the allegations. So anyway, this is a really good, good thing. Some people are going to say, who cares? Who cares what the name of a ship is? The Libs care. Don't they? It's the same people who say, who cares what words we use? Who cares what language is enforced

by the cultural and political institute? Who cares? Oh, it's just words, just trivial. The libs seem to care a lot. They spend a lot of money and a lot of time and a lot of effort trying to change words, trying to change the names of ships. Why? Because they know that words have a lot of power and they color the way we view the world. And they, in this case, they create a quasi-pantheon of people to venerate secular saints. And so, you know, there are a lot of great people in American history that we can honor. A lot of great people the U.S. Navy has to pick from. A lot of Michael Monsour's out there. Not all exactly like, obviously these are individuals who have committed individual acts of heroism. But all in all, there are a lot of people of great virtue and heroism that

we could pick from. We don't need to pick people who are known strictly for vice. Because to do that is to exalt vice. To do that is to change the public morality. To do that is to change the public religion. We don't want to do it. Now, speaking of homosexuals, this is a weird study out from Pew Research. It's actually not, it's not that weird, but it has thus far left some people scratching their heads. This is on how many Americans consult astrology and tarot cards and fortune tellers and all that kind of stuff. The headline is 30% of Americans

consult all of those things. Younger adults, especially younger women, are more likely to believe in astrology and to consult astrology and horoscopes. No surprises there. And, I'm quoting directly from the article, Americans who identify as

lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender, are especially likely to consult astrology or a horoscope and tarot cards. About how Half of LGBT Americans, 54% consult astrology or a horoscope at least yearly. That's roughly twice the share among U.S. adults overall, which 28%. And LGBT women are more likely than LGBT men to consult astrology, at least yearly. 63% of lesbians consult astrology versus 40% of gay men.

40%. That's a high number. It's still much higher than the national average. and certainly than the national average of men. 33% of LGBT adults say they consult tarot cards, making them three times as likely as U.S. adults overall to say this. 21% of LGBT Americans say that when they make a major life decision, they rely at least a little on what they've learned from astrology or a horoscope.

That's more than one in five LGBTLMNOP people. When they're making a major life decision, they go to the tarot cards or a fortune teller. While there is limited academic research on this topic, media publications focused on LGBTQ issues, have described the prevalence of new age practices in the LGBTQ plus community. No surprises here, at least to me. The reason is the LGBT LMNOP people eschew traditional religion. Because traditional religion, I'm not even just talking about Christianity, but Islam, Judaism, really anything that could even be remotely described as a traditional religion in the United States

says no-no on the LGBT stuff. It says that that is contrary to the moral order. So people who embrace this identity, not just people who have a same-sex attraction, not just people who have done some weird stuff or whatever, but I'm saying people who put on the armor and identity of LGBTism, they are not participating in traditional religion. and when you eschew traditional religion, you become superstitious. This is a big lesson that people have not understood for the past 25 years, but they should figure it out now because people have understood it for most of history. The last 25 years, since the new atheists at least, we've been told that when, that religious people are superstitious and in order to stop being superstitious, you need to give up religion, and then you can be reasonable.

that's not actually what happens. Religious people, especially people who participate in true religion, they're actually the least superstitious people. They're the least superstitious people because their belief is grounded on

both natural reason and revelation that go in accord with each other. Fides at Ratzio, faith and reason. When you give that up, when you deny facts that are knowable by natural reason, namely that there is a god he exists. Then you actually undermine your own reason.

It's like that old cliche. The guy who doesn't stand for something will fall for anything. Similar kind of principle here. When you give up true religion, you are divorcing yourself, at least to some degree, from reality. And yet the eternal questions continue to bubble up. So, instead of praying, you, consult the tarot cards instead of

trying to discern the signs of the times you try to discern the meanings of astrology or tea leaves you have to consult this fake religion if you give up true religion it's not that you're going to have no religion

it's that you're going to fall into some kind of false religion that is what LGBT people in particular have done because they so manifest are separating themselves from the traditional moral order. It actually really doesn't have all that much to do with sex per se. It's just a kind of rule of thumb to show, okay, well, I'm not, if I'm going to be a transgender identifying person, if I'm going to be an LGBT identifying person,

then I'm not going to be Catholic. Because the Catholic Church says I can't identify that way, but I have to go along with the moral teachings of the Catholic Church. Okay, well then, I'm going to fall into some other New Age religion. You don't need to take my word for it. You don't even need to take Pew's word for it. The LGBT publications per Pew are admitting there's a lot of new age stuff there.

Don't fall into that. There's a priest or a lay person. I don't remember which. That said that today, used to be 20 years ago, you'd have to convince people not to be atheists. The evangelists would go out and say, don't be atheist, be Christian. Today, you don't need to convince people not to be atheists.

You need to convince them not to get involved in the occult. in new age, in all the weird pseudo-religions. Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't consult astrologers, folks. It says it in the Bible, and you heard it here as well. Father's Day is coming. Skip the socks.

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Well, if a lesbian, you know, inasmuch as she is a lesbian, can't get pregnant, why does she get to have an opinion? I want to have an opinion about abortion. Speaking of religion, there is a modern Protestant worship. music composer named Brandon Lake. Now, you know me. I'm a mackerel snapping papist. So I got a lot of Protestant friends, obviously, but I'm not totally familiar with what is called modern worship music. In fact, even the Catholic Church has a lot of this kind of modern worship music where it's like, you know, hey, hey girl, everybody, I just want to pray. And it's all really sappy and like,

it ain't my thing. Let's put it that way. Well, anyway, One of the most prominent composers of this kind of music has now come out with the audacious claim that they need to make the modern worship music even less about God. I think the last thing I'll say is like, I'd love to see more worship sets, more churches, like kind of keep Bubba in mind. Yeah. Like we call him Bubba. The guy who's like in the back of the room and he's like, he got drunk.

dragged there by his wife. Yeah. Yep. And I just don't know if, like, when you're opening song or the most of your songs, I have so much Christianese language. Yeah. I think he has a hard time going, like, can I sing that? Like, I'm not there yet.

Right. I think he hears a hard fight. And I'm not saying hard fight is the answer. But like, I love, like, when your first song is like, holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty. Yeah. I think he's going like, what does holy mean? Yeah.

Holy crap. Like what? Like, I don't know. I don't know. Obviously, that's where we want to get to in a worship set is where it's just every eye is fixated on him. Right. And it's just like everyone, it's like vertical.

Yeah. But like, give Bubba some language. He can be like, all right. I find myself in that song. I feel like that, you know? And hopefully that's what some of my music can continue to do. Okay. So I think this guy's totally wrong.

Though he seems sincere. he's trying to do something good, but he's totally wrong. I prefer as a traditional Catholic. I don't even like the modern Catholic hymns. There's some good 19th century hymnody. You know, there's some good, some of the stuff, actually the Anglicans have some good hymnody. But, you know, like, I think of good old sturdy English hymns. Come thou long expected Jesus born to set thy people free.

You know, it's, but really what I prefer is Gregorian Chan. Kirilei Son Gloria in exhalcisteo Love that You know Credo in unumdeum I really like all that

Now why Is it just because I'm an old foge And I like old stuff? No, it's a little bit that But that's not why The reason I like Those old chants In Latin

And even the sturdy English hymnody Is because it's not emotivist It puts God front and center But it's strong It's the kind of hymn and it's the kind of chanting that a man can sing. You could be a man and sing that. It's strong. It's tough.

It's to the point. It's not trying to play on your emotions like you're a 13-year-old girl. And a lot of the modern worship music, Catholics play it too. Is this sappy stuff, people sometimes refer to it as, you know, like Christ is my girlfriend or something kind of music. but even I think of one very popular in the liberal Catholic parishes I will raise you up

on eagle's wings first of all I'm not going to raise anybody up on eagle's wings ever because I'm just a guy God can raise you up I'm not doing that because I'm just a guy but it's all this

we're going to kind of put God a little we're going to remove God a little bit we're going to make it more about you and your feelings He talks about Bubba in the back of the church. He says, well, we just got to play something for Bubba. You're not going to win Bubba over by playing some sappy, girly nonsense ballad from the 70s. It's not going to work. Bubba doesn't like that.

You are much more likely to appeal to Bubba with a 9th century Gregorian chant than you are. At least as manly, you know, at least you're not asking him to turn himself into some kind of wimp or sissy. This is the issue. But what this guy's saying here is the logical conclusion of all modern worship music. The whole point of which is to make things less sacred. Hey, what if we took sacred music and made it more like the world and made it more just common and popular and vulgar? That's what it is. That's why these songs musically are indistinguishable from pop music ballads.

And I don't want to beat up too much on the modern worship music because this is actually the whole point of modern society. since the Enlightenment is to make everything less sacred. There was a chasm between the sacred and the profane and the vulgar down here, and the common. And in the Enlightenment, we said, oh, forget about the sacred. We're going to make everything terrestrial. We're going to have the low, solid ground of liberalism, and we're just going to make it all like the world. Well, guess what?

No one's going to go to church if they're just going to get more of the world. You get enough of the world in the world. You don't need that. Okay. And I think what people are crying out for now, including Bubba. What Bubba is crying out for right now is a little re-enchantment, is a little bit more seriousness, is a little bit more of the sacred. The thing that's been missing, that's the thing we're yearning for. And you ain't going to get it by further weakening the music or further weakening the culture. You got to make it sturdy and you got to make it sacred. Got to make it real, man. Okay, I have so much more to say. On this point, there is a very liberal Catholic priest. He's a Jesuit. You know how they are. Father James Martin, you might have heard of him. He's active on social media. It's...

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