The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1778 - French President SUES Candace For Calling His Wife A Dude

Episode Date: July 24, 2025

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French president sues Candace Owens over claims his wife is a man. No, that is not a madlib gone wrong. That is yesterday's headline from CNN. A foreign head of state is suing an American media figure for defamation, for insisting that his wife is secretly a dude. And the craziest part of the whole story is the French president is very likely going to lose. But not for the reason that some of you think. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Noll's show. Welcome back to the show. John Stewart is not taking the news of Stephen Colbert's cancellation lying down. He's very, very upset. And he is actually demonstrating why Colbert and likely Stuart and a lot of these guys are going to end up canceled in the coming months and years. I have many, many more important things to say. But first, you need to go to good ranchers.com use code Knowles. summer's here. Nothing beats going out, taking the grill pill, having some friends over. But what happens if you go to a grocery store and you spend way too much money on cheap meat? It seems like a paradox. I guess it is a paradox. And it's expensive, but it's cheap quality, 85% from overseas. You don't know what

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President Macron is liberal, and he's very mad because people are calling his wife a man. You would be mad, too, if someone did that. This lawsuit is fascinating. It's a fascinating lawsuit because of when and where it's happening. So I'm going to lay my cards on the table, all right, and this is going to offend a lot of people, is going to irritate some of you. I'm just going to tell you exactly on the substantive matter where I am coming. from as I analyze this lawsuit. I am of the opinion, controversial though it may be, that the First Lady of France is not, in fact, a man. I think I know opinions vary. Listen, some of my friends hold different opinions. I, however, believe that the First Lady of France is a woman. And still,

I am really skeptical that the Macron's are going to win this case. And the reason for that is, everyone thinks the case hinges on whether or not Brigitte Macron is a woman. And it doesn't really hinge on that. What the case hinges on is proving actual malice. So yeah, you got to say, okay, the claim is false and the claim caused harm. There are damages. But I think what it's going to Hinge on is actual malice, which is a legal term, which in this case would mean you'd have to prove that Candice knew that what she was saying was not true and said it anyway, which I don't think anyone believes that. I think most people believe that Candice really believes what she's saying, even if you disagree with it. I think most people think she really believes it. So I put that one

out the window. That would be one way to prove actual malice, or that she's demonstrating a reckless disregard for the truth or falsehood of the claim. A reckless disregard for whether or not that it's totally preposterous. She doesn't care whatsoever. And I guess my question is, how do the Macron's prove actual malice, reckless disregard for the truth, in a culture that says that transgenderism is normal and has been around forever? Because that's the issue. If If you sit in a normal culture, like five minutes ago before transgenderism was a popular idea, if you made the claim that many decades ago, this person who looks very much like a woman, had a secret, very effective sex change surgery that no one knew about and it's only coming to

light now, most people would say, well, that's totally crazy and you have a reckless disregard for the truth and it'd be probably pretty easy to prove defamation. But today, the most powerful institutions say that that's totally plausible, don't they? There are really two ways to come at this. One is you can say, well, it's not defamation because there are no damages, because there's no harm, because being transgender is totally awesome. It's great. I've been told for years now that being transgender is possible, one, and two, really great. So you could come out of it that way and say, well, there's no damages. But put that aside for a second. I want to focus on the actual malice issue. Because the problem is, our culture now says it is totally reasonable to wonder if an elderly

woman 50 years ago secretly got a sex change that was convincing and she was able to keep it a secret. It's so common. Everyone, everyone does. The transgenderism has been around forever, right? That to me is the issue. Because in this case, the reckless disregard for the truth comes from our popular culture. It is all of our prominent institutions. It is our prominent politicians. It is our prominent business and entertainment leaders who insist that a man can be a woman and a woman can be a man

and transgenderism is just normal and what's the difference anyway? And oh yeah, people get sex chain surgeries all the time. And you couldn't really tell. There's no way you could tell. When a man goes under the knife to look more like a woman, oh, he could fool you. And that's been true for ages, going back to classical antiquity. So, then the question becomes, how do you prove that when someone wonders something like that,

which most people think is not reasonable, how do you prove that that demonstrates a reckless disregard for the truth? When your culture demands that you recklessly disregard the truth on this very matter, very it's going to be very very difficult to prove this so i'm not i mean you understand where i weigh in on the substantive issue and you know i'm not i'm not i'm not persuaded because she's too petite is one of my issues and the voice it's very hard to fake the voice the transvesty the people who do the trans thing they always have a weird voice so anyway i that's why i think she's a lady but i actually i'm not i don't mean to be glib about this or anything i do know of multiple people who think that she's a guy. And didn't this all start because some French journalists said that she was a guy,

and then so they can be dragged to court. But anyway, I just think it's going to be very difficult for the Macron's to prove it, especially in America where there's a very, very high standard for defamation. But in any case, it's a really funny headline. It's a really funny, funny, funny headline. Who would have, 10 years ago, would you have expected this? Just insert any head of state, any American media figure and that claim. That's very odd. So anyway, I'm sure we'll be following it closely. Not just because of personal relationships,

but because this is now international news. What a time that we live in. Okay, speaking of men and women, big announcement from Uber, Uber will allow women to avoid being paired with male drivers. So they announced this. It's going to be a new feature. Female passengers are going to get a special privilege. They're going to be allowed to toggle off male drivers so they don't need to be driven around by dudes, which is all finding good.

But I have a more urgent question. When can male Uber customers request not to have female drivers? Is that in the works? I'm just asking for anyone who might be interested. And by the, actually, before anyone accuses me of sexism, I want to, I'm going to lay my my car. I'm giving you a real insight into my person, not only my personal views, but even my personal conversations. It's not me. When sweet little Elisa and I go out and we have to call an Uber, it's not me who has the problem with the female drivers. It's my bride. It's my beloved, beautiful bride. She, when, because all stereotypes are true. So when sweet little Elisa sees that it's a lady paired, Mac, can we cancel it, please? can we please can't I want to get a because I like the female drivers they're nice we chat

it's okay but my bride points out they do tend to miss the exits a little bit more than the men do they don't they're they're usually not the right speed it's either too slow or maybe it's too fast and they're not stereotypes do not they don't obtain with every individual of a given class but they do they're stereotypes for a reason okay And so obviously the reason that the women here are requesting to not have a male driver has nothing to do with the driving. It's because men can be creepier with women than women can be with men. And men are physically stronger than women. So I get it.

I get where there's a distinction here. But this does seem to show a little bit of attention in our current political order. Because it comes down to the issue of freedom of association. When the Constitution was ratified, we had a country with broad. freedom of association. You could exclude people from your business, from your club, from any organization. You could associate with whomever you pleased. And then over time, people complained that this was discriminatory, that this was foreclosing opportunities to people of different groups, be they racial or sexual or anything in between. And so with the passage,

notably of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, we got rid of freedom of association. We said, no, you actually don't have a right to exclude people from certain accommodations and certain organizations. You don't have a right to do that. You have to include people, except sometimes, except certain people get to exclude people. So what we actually do in a way, we still have freedom of association for certain groups, but not for other groups. The African American society on any university campus, practically speaking, gets to exclude white people and can only have black people. But of course, there isn't a such thing as the white society that doesn't let the white, the black people or the Hispanic people or any other people. The women get to exclude men from

their transactions. The men don't get to exclude women. When you go on Amazon, you can, you can toggle little buttons to say, I want to see black owned businesses or women-owned businesses, not just Amazon. You see this in a lot of services. But of course you don't say, I want a man-owned business. You know, I want a white-owned business. So the tension that we have. And this was a point that really came up in recent memory with Christopher Coldwell's excellent book, The Age of Entitlement. We have a tension, a tension between two parallel constitutions, which is the U.S. Constitution, you know, we the people in order to form a more perfect union, and the Constitution of the 1960s, the Civil Rights Act. This is why every

government department, basically every government office, has a civil rights division to enact this parallel constitution. But here you're seeing the tension. where the tension comes up. The ladies can request the female drivers, but the men who want to get to their appointments on time and not miss the exit cannot request the male drivers. Now, speaking of sexual relations, a horrifying story involving two men and a lady and a baby. I have a lot more to say, and I will say those things, but first I'm going to say something else, and that is that you need to go to old glorybank.com slash knolls. Folks, the, timing of this ad is pretty interesting because I've been dealing with an issue with a payment processor

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This is a horrifying story. It's just horrifying. I'll give you this short version of it. Two homosexuals hired a woman named Brittany Pearson to bear a child for them. I guess the child was conceived through in vitro fertilization. They bought some lady's egg, and then they hired this woman to bear the child. But the woman, very sadly, was diagnosed with breast cancer while she's pregnant with this baby for order. And so the woman wants to receive treatment for breast cancer.

She can't receive the treatment while she is gestating the baby. so she delivers the baby early. All very scary, all very dangerous. Now, there's good news here. The woman delivers the baby at 25 weeks, which is very, very premature, but thanks to advances in medicine, babies can live at 25 weeks.

Babies can survive after 21 weeks, or maybe even a little bit less. So you say, okay, well, there was this horrible challenge, even with this bioethically dubious situation, but there was this horrible challenge, and, okay, the woman can receive her cancer treatment, and the baby can survive, right? That's a great ending to it, right? Except it's not because the homosexuals who purchased the baby decided to kill the baby. So the two fellas who hired the

woman to gestate the baby and bought the eggs and did whatever they did, they decided to intentionally withhold life-saving medical care from the baby who was delivered at 25 weeks. They killed the kid they purchased. Why? Well, I don't know. Because the baby was born premature, that can sometimes lead to health problems, longer term health problems. I don't know. They wanted a baby to come out of 40 weeks. They didn't want a baby at 25 weeks. So they killed their kid. And it is argued, they have every right to kill the kid because they paid for it. They ordered the kid. They went to the baby store. They got the eggs and the sperm and they hired some unethical scientists to combine them. And then they paid some woman to gestate the baby, and, you know, the customer's always right.

I mean, think about this in any other area of the market, in any other area of the economy. If you're at a restaurant and you have your meal, it's a nice meal, and then the waiter says, oh, did you save any room for dessert? You say, yes, I did. I want the chocolate cake. It's all, very good choice, sir. He goes into the back, and he has the chef make the chocolate cake. But, you know what? The chef screwed up the chocolate cake. He took the cake out of little too early. So it was a little too gooey. It wasn't quite right. I guess, you know, it comes out, starts cooling down. You could put the, you could put the chocolate cake back in the oven, but it's not going to be the same as if you did it, just totally right the first time.

So you know what the customer can do? The customer can say, get rid of that chocolate cake. I want a new chocolate cake. In any restaurant worth its salt, we'd say, oh, of course, you absolutely miss you. I don't know why the waiter's French. It's a French restaurant. I've got France on the mine because of the macrons. The chef would go there and they throw out the cake, get you a new cake. The problem is, a baby's not a piece of cake. A baby is not food that you order at a restaurant. A baby is not a handbag that you buy at a luxury store. A baby's not a commodity. A baby's a human being with rights to be treated as a proper subject. But we, in order to advance, sometimes with the best of intentions, but the road to hell is paved with good intentions,

in order to advance a false conception of sex, a false conception of human nature, a false definition of marriage, we deny that the baby is a proper subject with rights. We treat the baby like the handbag and the cake, and so it should come as no surprise that the customer gets to treat the baby as such. This is horrifying. These men should be arrested. I mean, I guess it's not against the laws. You can't retroactively change the law, but the law should be changed immediately,

and men who do this should be arrested and left in prison for life or worse. But this is the law as it stands now. And what the revolutionaries, what the cultural and sexual revolutionaries will say is, well, look, this is just the cost of equal rights for LGBT. This is just the cost of equality. Yeah, sometimes you've got to crack a few eggs to make a cake. Sometimes you've got to kill a few babies to allow homosexuals and other people. other people with deviant sexual behaviors and ideologies to pretend that reality is other than it is.

Do you think this is worth it? I don't think it's worth it. This is really, really dark stuff. We haven't even touched on how many human persons were created and discarded to get the baby into the woman's belly in the first place. We haven't even touched on that by it. We're just talking about the men who say, ah, yeah, didn't come out right. Didn't come out quite right. I actually wanted blonde hair. This one came out with brown hair. Can we, can we scrap it and start again? There's no difference between what these guys did in that situation.

A lot of people starting to take bioethics a little more seriously, including even the New York Times. So this actually begins, even before we get to the New York Times reporting, this begins with Health and Human Services. Health and Human Services under Bobby Kennedy proves me right. And this is what, you know, know, sometimes I don't hate to say I told you so. In this instance, I actually do hate to say I told you so. I've mentioned for months, and I've caught some flak for it. I said, you know, organ donation is a very dangerous thing, and often it involves murdering people because brain death is fake. It's not really death. It's just a designation that people came up with in the 1960s to facilitate certain medical interventions and pulling the plug on certain people and organ donation,

but it's not really death. And in the case of organ donation and brain death, what usually happens is that the actual immediate cause of the death of the patient is the retrieval and the removal of the organs. That's what kills the patient, is the patient still has the signs of life before that happens. Well, Health and Human Services, under Bobby Kennedy, did a big study on this and what HHS found is not shocking to me, is not shocking to people who've thought seriously about this, but it is going to be shocking to a lot of people, including the New York Times.

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Subheader. A federal investigation found a Kentucky nonprofit pushed hospital workers towards surgery despite signs of revival in patients. What else did they find? People across the United States have endured rushed or premature attempts to remove their organs. Some were gasping, crying, or showing other signs of life. This is the New York Times. there are very few issues where I and the New York Times are in total agreement.

And when that happens, it's going to be very hard to deny that there is an issue here. I hate to say I told you so here. But what this is about is what happens when you tell lies in order to achieve some greater good. This is what happens when you cut little corners ethically, because you think it's not going to really matter and it's going to make it a lot easier for us to, for instance, remove a patient who has very little hope of recovery from artificial life-sustaining technologies.

This is going to make it easier to save people who knows maybe they need a liver, they need a heart. And we have these patients who, they're not, they were in a bad car accident, they're not really going to survive. So if instead of waiting until they die, we just, because when you die, you know, the organs start to die and then we can't really use them? What if we just take those organs like five seconds before they're really going to die?

That's the argument. And they gussy it up in these other terms. They say, well, the patient's brain dead. They're not dead dead dead, but they're brain dead. Even though in certain cases of brain death, patients have lived years or decades actually after brain activity is said to have stopped. We've gone through puberty even in some cases we've talked about on the show before. But what if we just, we're going to cut this little corner, we're going to tell

this little tiny white lie, and look at all the good we can do. We can save kids who have diseases. We can save millions of dollars from our health care system, many, many, hundreds of millions of billions of dollars from our health care system. We can just cut that little corner. And then what happens? Eventually, the lies come to light. Eventually, all the bad stuff comes to light. And we find out that people are fighting for their lives while they are being killed by medical organizations harvesting their organs. Can you imagine a more dystopian system and way to go? Hard to do so. This is great. I know that the Maha movement was all about taking dyes out of fruit loops or whatever, and that's the big victory. To me, this is a much bigger one.

You have Bobby Kennedy really living up to, in this case at least, his Catholic bona fides. days. Kennedy has taken political positions that are in conflict with the Catholic faith. But here, he always considered himself a Catholic. He actually went for many years to the same church in suburban New York that my grandmother would go to. She'd talk about seeing him there. And here he's really living up to it, putting true pro-life principles first, at least on this issue. Good stuff. Don't cut corners on ethics. Don't tell little white lies. They're going to lead to lots of problems down the road. Now, speaking of the liminal space between life and death, Colbert, Air's public life on CBS is over. It has been announced that his show is dead, but it's still

limping along. It will limp along for some number of months before it is fully canceled. John Stewart is apparently still on air. Looking a little longer in the tooth, but I guess he's still hosting the Daily Show at least sometimes. He's not taking the news of his former colleagues consolation very well. He responded as any really sharp, satirical, brilliant cultural voice would by screaming profanity for like 90 seconds. This is the first time I've ever thought that John Stewart seems really old. I grew up. I watched a lot of John Stewart as a kid, even though he was a huge lib. I was kind of libertarian, so there was some overlap. But he seems really old here. But he seems really old here. the whole setup. See, the thing that's supposed to make it funny is he said the F word. That's what's, that's the joke. The joke is he's angry and said the F word. And here's the second part of the joke.

He is doing something really vulgar and he is contrasting it with something that's supposed to be really virtuous and holy. He's got a gospel choir, but he's saying the F word. They're all saying the F word. Isn't that funny? It's not funny is a problem. It might have been funny 20 years ago or 25 years ago, but it's not anymore because the culture's totally changed. And he was part of that change. Decades ago, George Carlin could say the words you're not allowed to say on TV. And that was really shocking and naughty because you really weren't allowed to say those words on TV. Then, I remember this.

I was around for this. I remember the two big shows on Comedy Central in the late 90s and early 2000s were South Park and the Daily show. The Daily show initially hosted by Craig Kilbourne, then John. John Stewart took it over and became a darling of the liberal press. And at the same time, even on cable, you couldn't say a lot of naughty words. And then South Park came out and said a ton of naughty words. But they still couldn't say certain words, like S-H-I-T or the F-word or other words. And then over time, even those taboos, even those standards started to break down.

And they could say S-H-I-T. Then they could say basically anything. And in those days, it was so shocking. in those days, if John Stewart came on TV or John Oliver or Colbert actually didn't really do this as much, but the two of them, they'd come out and instead of writing a joke, they would just read a headline and then read it again but put the F word in it. And that was the substitute for a joke. And they normalized that 25 years ago. And now they think that that's still really cool and shocking, but it's not. So what would be subversive now is to be clean, to go clean. What was subversive in the 90s was Dennis Leary singing,

I'm an A-hole or whatever, all those John Stewart singing the F word. But that isn't subversive anymore. And Colbert is not really funny anymore. He was funny on his company Central show at the time. He hasn't been funny in years. It's not culturally subversive. It's not culturally popular. that's why it loses 40 million bucks a year. And that's why he's getting canceled. He's getting canceled because that show lost an insane amount of money every year. So when John Stewart says, go F yourself, who's he really saying it to? Is he saying it to Donald Trump?

Not really. Trump didn't get him fired. Is he saying it to the network? Now he's saying it to you. He's saying it to you Because you didn't watch Colbert And you were supposed to watch Colbert Because this was still supposed to be funny And this was still supposed to be relevant

But it's not really anymore So it's real What is he saying? F you to go F yourself I don't know, is he saying it to Father Time It's some combination of the audience And Father Time Father Time comes for us all

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my favorite comment yesterday, before I get to, a delicious little clip of a Democrat admitting something Republicans have been alleging for decades, Democrats have been denying it for decades, and now we got the proof, we got the smoking gun from a sitting member of Congress. Before we get to that, my favorite comment yesterday is from T.L. Catlett. I knew I knew I was going to get hit for this. Ozzy's music was not satanic. I know. I know the argument.

John Cardinal O'Connor said the music was demonic. Ozzy said, no, it's really, it's not. It's Christian, actually. And Ozzy would wear a cross. And he was called the Prince of Darkness, but it was all kind of tongue-in-cheek. And it's deeply Christian. And I knew all the Ozzy fans were going to, I know.

But what I said was, I wasn't saying Ozzy is horrible and he's a Satanist and he's burning in the pit of hell looking up at us right now. I said, what I said, was Ozzy seemed like a nice enough guy, and he was a kind of lovable, eccentric, cultural figure. But the stuff he was most known for was pretty bad and demonic, and I'm sure he felt a great deal of shame for it. In fact, I know he did. All the drug stuff, all the crazy antics on the drugs and the women and all of this, and the really famous incident, infamous incident, where Ozzy tried to

murder his wife and not even just like in a normal way. He did it by saying, we have decided in a reportedly totally calm way, we have decided that you must die. They strangled his wife and luckily she had a panic button and the cops arrested Ozzie. And he was asked about this. I said, what do you have to say about that incident? He goes, well, it's not the proudest achievement I've got. You know, it's kind of a funny answer. That was my point. Is what a pity, because he seems like he's kind of a sweet guy. I hope I see Ozzy in heaven someday. But so much of what he's remembered for is genuinely terrible stuff. We should all try to avoid that. That's what I said. That's what I said. You can't. Come on.

Come on. Don't say I said something I didn't say. Okay. Speaking of bad liberal arguments, we move from John Stewart to Representative Yvette Clark, who is admitting on camera, the Democrats rely on illegal aliens to boost their numbers in Congress and get more power. And from Brooklyn, New York, we have a diaspora that can absorb a significant number of these migrants. And that, you know, when I hear. colleagues talk about, you know, the doors of the end being closed, no room in the end. I'm saying, you know, I need more people in my district just for redistricting purposes. And those members could clearly fit here.

I need more people in my district just for redistricting purposes. You catch that part? Because I understand. the number of representatives that a state will have in Congress is not based on the number of citizens in the state or the number of taxpayers or something. It's based on the number of people in the state. So if you flood a state with a bunch of illegals, you're going to increase their representation in Congress, which dramatically can shift the balance of power in the government. And what Yvette is saying here is, yeah, I need those illegals to get our population numbers up.

There are a lot of people leaving these blue states going to the red states for better taxes, better business environment, better schools, more normal, more normal lifestyle. And shoot, we got to make up the difference here so that the blue states don't lose their representation. It doesn't matter if the illegals vote or not, as long as they're there in blue counties, then the Democrats will get more representation, and we won't lose our power. I've said for years, as have many Republicans, that the reason the Democrats open up the borders is because, well, one, the business community just wants slave labor, but the Democrats want to get a permanent electoral majority. And then the libs, all the fancy libs, they say, that's ridiculous. That's a conspiracy theory.

That's a bab, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, here she is. You heard it from the horse's mouth. She's admitting it. She's a sitting Democrat member of Congress. Don't ever let them tell you again that the Democrats are not pushing open borders for purposes of giving them a permanent electoral majority. That's what it's about. Now, speaking of migration, some good news here, you know, President Trump has that self-deportation. app? It's an app that says, hey, if you don't want to get Tom Holman's boot kicking down your door, you can choose to deport yourself, and if you do it, we're going to geo-locate you. Once we find out you're back in your country of origin, we'll send you $1,000, which is the most efficient way and

most humane way to deport people. We have 11 to 16 million illegal aliens in the country. That's a conservative estimate. You're not going to get Tom Homan to personally chuck all of them out of the country. It would be obscenely expensive and it would be practically impossible. Plus, a lot more than a thousand bucks to put an illegal through the whole process of deportation and ship them down to Buckelay's House of Fund in El Salvador. So if they can do it themselves, they handle all the costs of that, and then we give them a thousand bucks, we are getting off cheap. And it shows the humanity of Trump's immigration policy because, yeah, there are sticks. They're the sticks that Tom Holman hit you with while he's kicking you across the Rio Grande.

but there are also carrots. We're also saying, look, we understand this is a complex problem, mostly advanced by Democrats and the Chamber of Commerce. So we're going to, I'm sorry that they rolled out the red carpet for you to break our laws, you got to leave, but we'll give you a thousand bucks and not throw you in prison. How's that sound? This is great. Because so far, what we're finding out is that likely the app has saved millions for taxpayers in the deportations. And also, we know it's been used by tens of thousands of illegals. So then, you're going to say, well, tens of thousands of illegals compared to 16 million, that's just not a lot of people. But you have to pair that study on the app with the illegals who are not using the app, who are just self-deporting

because they don't want to get a one-way ticket from Mr. Homan. There was a Center for Immigration Studies survey that showed that one million illegal aliens have self-deported since January, and the way we can know that is by looking at the labor participation numbers. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. Again, it's a huge uphill battle, but given all the headwinds that Trump is facing, the immigration policy is actually going pretty well. A lot of panacans, a lot of critics want to say he isn't deporting anyone. The numbers are actually looking pretty good. Okay, speaking of Trump issues, we get an Epstein update. So remember, initially the Republicans said, we're going to release the Epstein files. And the Attorney General Pam Bondi went on TV

and said, I've got the Epstein list of clients on my desk. And she gave the binders out to those social media influencers. I hear the files, and there was nothing new in the files. And then she said, I got the list on my desk. And then she said, actually, there isn't a list. And you're not going to get anything else. And I pointed out, I said, look, you're never going to really learn anything new about Epstein. But this is a big political problem for Trump because he seems like he's not being forthright here. He's, I think, underestimated how much this issue matters to a lot of his base because it's a symbol of corruption in the swamp. Not that Trump is implicated in the files really. Not that they're covering up for, you know, a cabala petos necessarily, but that

by not being more forthright on the files, you're creating a big issue that's not going to go away overnight. So I said that Trump needs a better answer. He's not being served well by this answer. And then what did Trump do? This is a brilliant idea. He said, okay, I'm directing the Justice Department to go to the courts, to have the courts unsealed the grand jury testimony, so you get a bunch of info on Epstein. And the reason this was brilliant is, not that we're going to get a list of, you know, here's a leatherbound version of the top 10 pedos on earth, go get them. It's not even really possible for that to come out of the files, but because it makes it an issue for the judiciary. So what I predicted in the first place

remains true. Either Epstein is who the government says he is, in which case you know everything you're going to know, or Epstein is not who the government says he is. He's who you think he is. He's a super spy, he's whatever, in which case you already know everything you're going to know. But in no instance are you going to get any serious, juicy stuff out of it. I hope we get some justice, but you're not going to get a lot of transparency here. And that's exactly what's happened, because the DOJ went to the courts and said, give me the Epstein files, give me the, give me the Epstein ran jury testimony. And the court said no. The court said, said, no, it would be imprudent to release that.

You don't have the right to that, and we're not going to do it. Which is a win for the Trump administration. Because now it means people can direct their ire to that branch of government, not to the executive branch, over an issue that long predates Trump, that Trump doesn't want to deal with, that Trump doesn't really seem to have much more they can do with it. It's okay, go focus on the judiciary. That is a political win. It's going to be unsatisfying for people who want the list, whatever the list even is at this point,

the list of people who are accused, the list of people who went to the Epstein properties, the list of people who are supposedly on video that the government says doesn't even exist, even though there was video, but now they say the video doesn't include people, but it does include abused children. And the whole thing is a big mess. But from a political perspective, now everyone's going to focus on the judiciary. Trump can get on talking about the achievements that he wants to talk about. Now, speaking of longstanding presidential scandals, this one is really bad. This one is almost as bad as the issue with the two guys buying the kid. The Biden administration set up a hotline for migrant kids.

The many migrant kids who were brought across the border by criminal cartels with the welcoming of the Biden administration and the Obama administration. The Biden admin set up this hotline so that the kids who are placed with sponsors in other homes could run. report if there was any abuse. Sixty-five thousand calls went unanswered, which certainly just by the numbers is a much bigger child abuse scandal, even than Epstein by orders of magnitude. We don't have time to get to that right now. So we'll have to get to that tomorrow. How's that for a horrifying clip hanger? You tell yourself, no one wants your college-era band teas, but on Deep Hop, People are searching for exactly what you've got. You once paid a small fortune for them at merch stands.

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just juggling a bunch of toddlers plotting out ways to murder me. I have been on the road. It's been a little crazy with the timing and giving speeches and all the rest of it. So we will have. There will be more Membra Segmenta. That's the plural of Membrum Segmentum. There will be more Membris segmenta coming up, but not right now. Sorry. Save up all your good, juicy comments so that I can read them from the Ham Duhlai when I get back. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Nulls show. See you tomorrow.