The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1810 - Did Israel Blow Up Greta’s Boat?

Episode Date: September 9, 2025

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most people pointed fingers at Israel. Now, happily, Greta and her fellow professional agitators are all okay. No one was hurt. But the incident raises some disturbing questions. Did the Israelis really try to blow up Greta's boat? Given that everyone's okay, are we allowed to laugh at it? And the most important question of all to whoever damaged Greta's boat. How dare you?

I'm Michael Knowles. It's the Michael Nulls show. Welcome back to the show. How dare you? You have stolen my boot. How do you? You know, I'm getting a little bit of whiplash, guys, because I was making jokes about the Greta thing yesterday. And I was called, in the morning, I was being called a Nazi.

and an anti-Semite because I sat down and did a podcast with Tucker. I went on Tucker's show. And then later on in the day, I was being called a Shabas-Goy-Massad agent because I was laughing about the Greta Boat thing. And I don't, I think that, I think actually when you're called a Nazi IDF agent, when you're called those things at the same day, it means you have a truly precise and independent opinion. And so we'll get to that.

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Wire's very own Isabel Brown. Isabelle, welcome to the network, and thank you for coming on the show. Thanks for having me back, Michael. It's a great day to be here. This is very exciting. So your show is launching. Everyone should go check it out, the Isabel Brown show. It's a good week. There's a lot in the news about Gen Z and what Gen Z believes. We're going to be talking about that a little bit later. in the show. But just off the top of my head, I really like the zoomers. They're cool. I think every generation has characteristics. The boomers were kind of hippy and just ideologically selfish. Personally, they can be very nice and wonderful and selfless, but ideologically kind of selfish, you know, on the sexual front in the 60s, on the financial front in the 80s. Gen X is just

too cool for school, above it all, grunge, nihilistic, blah, whatever, you know, cool. Then the Millennials are gay. Unfortunately, I'm a millennial, but they're gay. It's a gay generation. And then for Gen Z, I think that it's split. So the left is really left and the right is really right. So it's basically trans Nazis. It's like half trans and half Nazi. Is my impression, am I wrong? Am I right? I don't know. That seems to be a bit of an exaggeration. Maybe trans and trad would be a more accurate representation. Well, no, this is my point though, Isabel. I'm saying Look, I see the transes and I see the Nazis. And then I think the meat, this is why I like the zoomers, is that the mean, what that

averages out to is just like a nice trad, which I mean, I think that's the average zoomer. Or I don't know, you tell me, you're the expert. That's a fair assessment, Michael. And I think you're right. Even in the last couple of days, we've seen lots of new polling that we're unpacking on the Isabel Brown Show this week about the priorities for young men versus young women, young conservatives versus young liberals. And you are watching this ideological divide.

really continue to get a bit crazier and crazier. Although I'm an eternal optimist, and I'm sort of the spokesperson for Gen Z is awesome. I'm very proud to wear that badge. So I will tell you, the trans insanity and the upside down left side of things is really loud, but I don't believe it's indicative of the majority of people under 35 in this country. And I see a whole lot more reasons for hope than anything else. The fact that the average mean, the median ideology of this generation being a based trad, should give you a lot of good, warm, fuzzy feelings about the next chapter of American history.

Well, that is my question. So obviously, I agree. I think the trans thing is over and it's, you know, it's just like dead man walking as an ideology. But on the, the other thing that's interesting to me about zoomers is they are exploring ideologically. And so, you know, for good and for ill, there is a re-exploration of Nietzsche. You know, I'm not a big Nietzsche guy, but I think you see that a little bit with the fascination of BAP and the BAP affiliation. non-social media accounts. And I think you're seeing an exploration of the classical political tradition, not just of the Enlightenment, but going all the way back to Aristotle and all those old Greeks. I think you're seeing a surge in Catholicism. I'm personally seeing that.

I do think you're seeing a little bit some of the fringier, more 20th century right-wing ideologies crop back up again. So I don't know. I mean, where do you think at all lands during this period of exploration? On the right, specifically among the same. the right characterization. No, I love that. That's a great characterization of what we're going through because truly it is a time of exploration. And it's easy to understand why when the answers to every single question in the history of the universe are just in your pocket. And our education system certainly isn't fostering a sense of intellectual curiosity and challenging your own opinions and taking on new perspectives. And so I think people are really engaging in the metal level

philosophical investigative questions for themselves every day, scrolling through TikTok and Instagram and in sub-tweet threads. And it's a really interesting time to see philosophy and religion and politics really come to the forward of culture for young people when everybody else tells us that we're way too young and we just don't care. We do care. And it is in the heart of every single conversation that we're having. Of course, in a period of exploration like that, pretty much every idea is going to come back to the surface. Whereas what we saw with millennials was really only a resurgence of extreme left-wing ideology, like, radical authoritarian socialism, and everything else wasn't allowed to be said. Now you have this

explosion of diversity of opinions, some of which are really incredible good opinions rooted in the transcendentals, what is good and true and beautiful. That alone, by the way, that young people use that as a tagline all the time is fascinating to me going back to Plato and C.S. Lewis and the history of Christian philosophy in the last several thousand years. But you also see some really bad ideas. And that's the really interesting crux of this chapter of history that we're living in. Free speech does mean ideas that you disagree with. And it does mean really bad or sometimes even evil ideas come to fruition too. But the fact that we can duke it out in real time in a very unexpected venue and formula in TikTok combat sections and live stream live chats to really have

this argument of where do we want to move forward as Western civilization is so telling to me about the curiosity and the hunger for righteousness, the hunger for knowledge that young people are really representing. That's exciting. And it is fun to duke out all of these ideas before we win and then exile all of our enemies to St. Helena, which will be a great time. But in the meantime, we'll have a good little battle. Isabel, marvelous to see you. Everyone needs to go subscribe right now to the Isabel Brown Show. Very, very exciting. I will see you very soon. Yes, indeed. Thanks, Michael. Unfortunately, I have to turn away from the great Isabel's of the world to the Greta's. That's like the mirror. That's the er image of, of Isabel. Did the Jews

blow up Greta? That's the question. That was what was trending last night on social media. Did the Israelis try to blow up the Greta boat? And the answer is, I don't think so. I don't, it's kind of funny. The idea of it is kind of, well, we'll get to whether or not the idea of it is kind of funny. But I just don't think so. I'm joking at the top of the show that I'm simultaneously somehow being called an anti-Semite and a slavish employee of the Mossad, which is, it just shows you how absurd the debate over the particular war that we're looking at now, the Israel-Gaza war, has gotten. But I think I've got some bona fides. I've been critical of the Israeli government on a number of occasions. And I just think what they're being accused of here,

is kind of silly because this was obviously yet another publicity stunt for Greta. But the reaction is frankly more telling than the stunt. We'll get to that in one second. First, I want to tell you, speaking of life and death, about policy genius. Go to policygenius.com slash knolls. What would happen if you unexpectedly passed away tomorrow? It might sound jarring. Nearly half of American adults would face financial hardship within six months if they lost

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policy genius.com, slash knolls. When the story was going around that Greta's boat was exploded by an Israeli drone, allegedly, I looked it up and I said, okay, Greta's fine, that's good. It would have been sad if Greta had been injured. And all of Greta's fellow professional agitators, they're fine. No one was injured. It's totally fine.

And the boat got blown up, not in Gaza, not near the state of Israel, but in Tunisia. way, way, way far away from the state of Israel. And it just looked a little suss. So I tweeted out when I saw everyone was okay. I tweeted out. I said, hey, stay in school, kids. You know, one day you're a truant. One day you're skipping 10th grade math class.

The next day, the IDF is targeting you in the Middle East blowing up your boat. Don't kids skip in school, not even once. You got to keep track of your studies. The organizers of Greta's flotilla, the global Sumud flotilla, say that they were flying a Portuguese flag and that it was in the port of Sidi-Bao, Sidi-Bao Saeed in Tunisia. And everyone is safe, it's no problem, but they said they got blown up with a drone. A spokesman for Tunisia's National Guard told the French press that no drone had been detected. So who are you going to believe? Greta or the Tunisians? The Tunisians say we're not saying that a drone didn't hit Greta's boat.

We're just saying there were no drones even in the area. So that claim seems to be kind of silly. Then Tunisia's National Guard spokesman went further and said, actually, after looking into this a little bit, it doesn't look like it was the Jews dropping bombs on porcinct Greta of the Blessed sailboat. It looks that like the fire began, quote, likely because of a cigarette or a spliff left on fire.

So it would appear that the call was coming from inside the house and it was all much ado about nothing. Now, when I posted this, I just made a few jokes. I post, I did a Google translate of how dare you into Hebrew. I post it. And all of these people, even people putatively on the right, they responded, they said, this isn't funny. This isn't funny.

There are some people. They call themselves right wing. They say that they're conservatives. And yet they support left-wing politicians. They support the vote for Kamala. They support Gavin Newsom. They cry over Greta, lying about being blown up by the Jews. The whole thing, it's very, very strange. But the question that I have to ask myself is, why can't I laugh at this? Why can I not? Because some people say, well, Greta is trying to bring aid to people suffering a humanitarian crisis in Gaza. First of all, I've been pretty outspoken about the principles of just war and how that war should resolve. And I'm critical of the Israeli

government, obviously critical of Hamas. And Greta ain't bringing no aid to Palestine. Are you people stupid? Are you kidding me? What are you talking about? This girl only ever exists to pull off a very particular type of publicity stunt, namely a publicity stunt involving boats. That's all she's ever done since she was a teenager. Now she, I don't know, she's like 45 or something. But that's all she ever does. She just gets publicity for herself by screaming and moralizing. And it used to be because she said that the Sun Monster was going to kill us all. it used to be that she said that global warming was going to kill us all, you know, imminently. And then that racket ran out.

No one cares about global warming anymore, including Greta Thunberg. So now she's moved on to the cause-seleb, the most exciting cause du jour, which is the Israeli-Palestine conflict. And because the left uniformly supports the Palestinian side in that conflict, Greta puts on the kefia. But her schick is kind of one note, so she gets in another boat and she gets more publicity. She's not actually bringing any aid to the Palestinians. What are you talking about? She's showboating, literally, and she's trying to bring attention to herself. And it's kind of funny that the boat caught fire, especially because no one was hurt.

It's kind of funny, man. And I guess my broader point is, if you can't get a chuckle out of this story, politics is not for you. Okay. If you are so out of humor, if you're so unbalanced that you can't get a chuckle out of this, I don't think politics is for you. I think you should go watch sitcoms. I think you should go listen to popular music or I don't go to the gym or just do something else.

Because you're going to be driven so crazy. If you are so fanatical, if you are so monocausal in your thinking that you're, you can look at a grainy image of a fire off the coast of Tunisia and think that it's BB Netton Yahoo sitting at a video game console trying to blast Greta Thunberg with a drone. If you actually believe that, if you think that's likely, your brain is broken. Something broke, okay? And this is why, I mean, I'm joking about it, but I think it actually is important, is the fact that, that all day, one could be called a Nazi and then simultaneously a Mossad agent and one can be accused of this extreme or that extreme. It shows you that people are not being sophisticated in their thinking. They're not being rational and they're thinking about geopolitics. Okay.

And I've said from the beginning on the Israel-Palestine conflict, I have the least popular opinion of all, namely, I think it's complicated. I don't think that there is going to be some permanent solution this side of the second coming. And I think that what needs to be done is prioritize American interests as well as the cause of justice to wrap up the war and establish whatever modicum of peace we can have. In the meantime, while protecting the legitimate rights of people in the region and most particularly protecting the rights of Christians and Christian pilgrims to the Holy Land. That's my opinion. That will satisfy precisely no one, but it happens to be correct. Okay. If you can't handle that, if you can't handle a little bit of nuance and occasionally

even a little bit of levity in geopolitics, I think this probably isn't for you. And it makes me think of Trump because one of the other guys, one of the few other guys I've noticed, who consistently arrives at ideologically unsatisfying, yet practically very effective solutions in politics, is Trump. Because he's not an ideologue. He's not some weirdo wonk. He's not some fanatic who's monocausal about every. He's just a guy who kind of makes things work and he's generally dispassionate. And I think that's what's called for at the moment. I think we are way, way to ideological on the left especially, but even a little bit on the right. And we need a little practicality. The winning coalition was brought together by bringing in people who are kind of practical and normal and who aren't political, weird. nerds all the time. And who can laugh at St. Greta's sailboat catching fire because of, according to the Tunisians, a stray spliff lying on the deck. Okay. Now, turning away from Greita, turning away from fake saints to actual saints and women worthy of veneration, Trump posted

something yesterday that really tickled my fancy. And it was really magnificent. He posts, Happy Birthday Mary, Queen of Peace. And it's a picture of a statue of Our Lady with Christ's Child. It says, happy birthday, Mary, Queen of Peace. This is really great. All Christians should celebrate this, especially Catholics. Certain denominations, Protestantism, don't really like to venerate Mary. Some do, but some don't. But this is a beautifully Christian and specifically Catholic image.

It's a reminder. Togville was right when he said, America looks like a Protestant nation, but it's actually over time going to trend toward, at the same. time atheism and Catholicism. He writes this in volume two of democracy in America, and people thought he was crazy at the time, and people thought he was crazy even when I read those passages out three years ago. And he doesn't look so crazy anymore. It's a reminder of what Cardinal Manning once said, which is there will come a time that will, he said it more eloquently. I forget the exact quote. There will come a time that will upend the confident judges,

the judgments of men. Okay. We're so certain about how politics is going to play out. And then crazy stuff happens. Like Trump gets elected. We're so certain about how politics is going to play out, but then terror attacks happen. War breaks out. Economic crises take place. Spiritual awakenings happen. Stuff happens. And then the president posts, Happy Birthday, Mary, Queen of Peace. The nativity of Mary is traditionally celebrated September 8th. But there's something here beyond just a pious reflection that you're getting out of Trump. He says, Queen of Peace. There are a lot of titles of Mary. We have Our Lady of Graces. We have our Lady Queen of Palestine. We have all these different titles for the Mother of God.

Queen of Peace is a very particular title. And there's actually a feast day for Our Lady Queen of of Peace. And it's alternately in July or January, depending on where you are in the world. I think America celebrates it in January, but the rest of the world celebrates it in July or vice versa. in any case, that feast day is not September 8th. So Trump chose, yes, it's Mary's birthday, but he chose this particular title. Why? Because obviously what he's after is peace. That is what he is looking for as his grand strategic geopolitical vision.

He's not after, in the Israel-Palestine world, let's say. He's not after total Israeli victory. He doesn't care about that, I think. He's not after total Palestinian victory or a Palestinian state or any, I don't think he's after he's after Ukraine and Russia. I don't think he's after totally humiliating and destroying Russia, as many ideologues are. I don't think, likewise, that he's after totally preserving the territorial integrity of the state of Ukraine, the sovereign, beautiful, amazing democratic nation.

As of 2013, I don't think he cares about that. what he wants is peace. Because peace is, provides the conditions for individuals to flourish. Peace and order is what empires are after. And America is the imperial hegemon. Trump is conveying a religious message. He's also conveying a very particular political message that I didn't see anyone else notice yesterday, but that's clearly what it's about.

And the religious and the political are not so easy to separate. As Trump pointed out, when he announced the launch of America praise at the the Museum of the Bible. We'll get to that momentarily. First, though, I want to tell you about Pure Talk.com slash Knowles. When was the last time you bragged about your wireless company? Like, did you know my wireless company gave away a thousand American flags to deserving veterans and forgave $10 million in veteran debt? Did you know my wireless company raised almost half a million dollars to prevent veteran suicide? When did you last say that? When your wireless company is Peer Talk, there is a whole lot to brag about. You can even brag about the coverage you get with

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a really delightful place. It's in Washington, D.C. I think it was started by Baptists. And it's just wonderful. I just love it. So he goes there, he announces the launch of America praise because America was founded on faith. But America was founded on faith, as we know, and I've been saying it for a long time. And when faith gets weaker, our country seems to get weaker. When faith gets stronger as it is right now, we're having a very good period of time. After some rough years, good things happen for our country.

It's amazing the way it seems to work that way. And under the Trump administration, we're defending our rights and restoring our identity as a nation under God. We are one nation under God. And we always will be. 99.9% of people are going to hear that. They're going to say, oh, yeah, typical American politicians speak. You know, some nice words about God and Christianity.

And what I've heard this a million times. That's not what Trump is doing here. That's not pay close attention to what he's saying. Pay close attention to the circumstances. This isn't just some random campaign address. This is preparing for the 250th anniversary, the celebration of what America has been setting the stage for what America will become. This is the America praise event. This is specifically an event where the president is calling on the country to pray, to celebrate the history of the country and the future of the country. He's not incidentally praying. He's not incidentally mentioning God. The event is for that. He's saying, our country is. is founded on God, which is to say he is establishing the legitimacy of the political regime

on God. There are other ways to establish the legitimacy of a political regime. One would be on the will of the people. That would be a radical, democratic kind of establishment. That's not what Trump is doing here. That's not how America was established. Some people think that. some people think America was established as this purely majoritarian nation based on the gusts of will of the people. That's not it. That's not what our founding fathers thought. They said that we hold truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal and endowed by their

creator with certain rights. So they established it on God. Divine right monarchs in the Ancien regime in Europe established the legitimacy of their regimes on God saying that God has anointed them to be rulers drawing on St. Paul, drawing on the Bible,

drawing on Christian tradition. What Trump is doing here is closer to what our founding fathers wanted. It's actually identical with what our founding fathers wanted. It's not what the radical Democrats want, lowercase D-democrats, the ones who say it's just

the legitimacy is based on whatever the people want. That's not it. What the founding fathers wanted is actually closer to what the divine right monarchs of Europe. wanted, which is to say that the legitimacy of the country comes from God. And there's a strong democratic element, and there happens to be an aristocratic element, a monarchical element, and there's all this other stuff. But the country is grounded on God. That is not merely a personal statement of devotion or faith. That is a political statement about what the country is about and why the country

has authority. He then goes further, and he raised some eyebrows with a beautiful, articulate statement on something that no one ever talks about, and that is anti-Christian bias. And I created the first ever Department of Justice Task Force to eradicate anti-Christian bias. And for those people that are a little bit naive or not well-read, there is a tremendous anti-Christian bias. We don't hear about it. We don't think about it. You hear about anti-Semitic, but you don't hear about anti-Christian. Now, you have a strong anti-Christian bias, but we have a strong anti-Christian bias, but we don't hear about We're ending that rapidly, I will tell you, it's a whole, we're in a much different world today than we were one year ago. This is like a different world.

Yeah, we are. We are in a much different world today. As that statement, it conveys, there is serious anti-Christian bias. When Joe Biden was vice president under Barack Obama, the administration sued nuns, sued religious sisters because they wouldn't kill babies. okay. When Joe Biden was president, he arrested pro-lifers overwhelmingly Catholic. And a bunch of Protestants. I think there was like one atheist, too, but it was basically Christians. Just threw him in prison. Also for protesting infanticide. Deep anti-Christian bias. The decades-long campaign to get Christianity out of the public square around Christmas time,

to get the Bible out of classrooms. Unfortunately, that's exceeded in the middle of the 20th century. To get prayer out of classrooms. Deep anti-Christian bias. And he says, look, you hear about anti-Semitism. You don't hear a lot about anti-Christian bias. So is Trump taking a jab at the Jews here? I don't, he's not.

You know, there's a town named after the guy in Israel. I'm sure that Trump thinks, as I think, as Pope Pius the 11th thought, as Pope Pius the 12th thought, that anti-Semitism is real. Not every criticism of Judaism, not every criticism in the state of Israel. That's one of these terms it's bandied about that's lost a lot of meaning. But there is such a thing as an actual hatred of Jews as Jews. And that is wrong. It's condemned by multiple pontiffs, by saints. It's very, very bad. And that needs to be extirpated from society. Sure. but anti-Christian bias is far more pervasive

and it cuts far closer to the heart of American identity. So it's not that he's saying, forget about anti-Semitism, we should only focus. He's saying, no, anti-Semitism is bad. We should, yeah, you don't, what is a true, coherent meaning, limited meaning of the term anti-Semitism, yeah, yeah, we got to take that on. But as we take that on, if we're going to take that on, surely we must also take on anti-Christian bias, which is far more pervasive, concerns far more Americans, cuts far closer to the heart of what this country is. And that's shocking. That's shocking to people.

Oh, are you talking about anti-Christianity? Yeah. That is an urgent, urgent national problem that has to be addressed. It's a Christian country. And as Trump said previously, the country does not make sense without it. You can read the writings of John Jay. You can read the writings of the Founding Fathers and the Framers. who say, thank God, that we descend from a common stock with common experience and a common religion. John Adams saying that the principles of Christianity are the principles on which independence was one. So it's not just the Adams quote that says the Constitution's built for only immoral and religious people, that it's unfit to the governance of any other. It's all of them through and through. So Trump says, if you lose that, if you not only allow

Christianity to fade away in America, but if you actually have a concerted political effort to destroy Christianity, as we have had for many decades, you are not only injuring the faith of people, you are not only committing sins and crimes against people's dignity and rights, you're actually destroying the American regime, and we're not going to let that happen. It's a very different world today. Trump says, I love that. And he brings a 12-year-old kid up on stage, who himself was persecuted because of his religion. Hi, I'm Shane Seas. I've been a Christian my whole life and Jesus means everything to me. When I was in fifth grade, my school forced me to teach my kindergarten buddy about changing his

gender using a book called My Shadow is Pink. The book said you can choose your gender based on feelings instead of how God made us. I knew this was not right, but I was afraid of getting in trouble. after my family spoke up the school treated us badly and kids started bullying me and my brother because of our faith and the school did nothing to stop it it hurt a lot but i kept trusting god i believe kids like me should be able to live our faith at school without being forced to go against what we believe i hope no other family has to go through what mine did thank you here here here man this is great great stuff wow man right out of central cast of this kid. That was delivered well, wasn't it?

That was delivered well. That kid's got a good career ahead of him. And his point is so apt. He says, look, I'm in school. And not only do they take the Bible out of school and prayer out of school, but they make me submit to their false religion, their false Gnostic religion of transgenderism or whatever. And it's just, it's crazy that I've been persecuted for this.

It's crazy that they got away with that, that I was the one being punished. I hope no one else has to go through that. What do the devil, grace, and the law all have in common? This occurred to me as I'm hearing this kid speak. What do the devil, God's grace, and the law all have in common? They all operate on incentives. That's it. when the devil wants to take you,

when the devil wants to mess up your life, what does he do? He tempts you. He just tempts you. You still have free will. You can consent to some mortal sin, but he tempts you. And he puts up all the temptations

and he just creates all these incentives to get you to do what he wants. What is grace? Does God's grace undermine your free will? Some people think it does. I don't think it does. not the traditional Christian understanding. No, no, no. God's grace is kind of like a temptation. It's a mercy. It's a life raft. It's a, but it's kind of like a temptation in the other direction.

A temptation to sanctity. A temptation to be with God. A temptation to do the good. A temptation to resist the temptations of the devil. And then, my friends, what is the law? The law, what the liberals, the classical, the classic liberals and the left liberals and the libertarians, what they'll say is the law is just a kind of ordinance to protect certain fundamental rights that are very circumscribed and limited and the government has no right to pass a lot of them. The law is just an incentive. I think we saw that and that stabbing on the train in Charlotte the other day. I think we see that around a lot of our cities.

I think we see that at the border now that Trump has been elected. just creates incentives. If you want to get less crime, if you want fewer stabbings, then you pass tough laws against criminals. And guess what? Fewer people are going to stab people. If you pass tough prison sentences, if you pass the death penalty for neck stabbers on, then you know what, you're going to get fewer stabbings.

And likewise, if you go softer, if you decriminalize bad behavior, if the DAs don't prosecute bad behavior, you're going to get more of it. It just operates on incentives. If you have a president who says, come across the border, fentanyl dealers and face-tattooed human smugglers, come on, go, we're not going to prosecute you.

You're going to get more of it. If President Trump comes in and he says, we're going to ship you to El Salvador and Bucay is going to personally torture you until you die, guess what? You're going to get less of it. You're going to have illegal immigration drop to zero. It's all about incentives. And there was something that we were talking about,

Isabel at the top of the show, something that I really like about the zoomers is they're not content with the lame, clinical, sterile, ideological liberalism of the last few decades that just talks about procedures all the time. They're talking about substantive goods. What's good? What's bad? What's a flourishing life? What do we want? What's the substance? And that's what we need to think about now. The law will always create incentives and disincentives. The law will always be pursuing some perceived good and avoiding some perceived evil. You can't escape those substantive questions. So the question is, what is good? What is evil? What do we want more of? What do we want less of? That's it. And the squishes who say, well, who's to say what's good? Who's to say what's evil?

Either you or your enemies. That's who. Well, I don't know. I mean, if my conception of good is different than his conception of good, who's to, yeah, right. So either you're going to pick it or he's going to pick it. people and people are generally reasonable. Maybe you can persuade them using reason. If we can't persuade people of this stuff, we can't have self-government. It's the whole premise of self-government. What are you going to do? What are you going to do? We need good incentives, folks. Okay, so what do people care about? We have a poll out from NBC. Really, really revealing about the state of the culture. Everyone is blackpilling on it. Everyone says, this is bad news. I think it's actually good news. Whatever plans you have tomorrow night, you've got to cancel them.

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the scariest part of the Charlotte stabbing is that if this were a Netflix doc, the script would focus more on rehabilitating the poor killer than honoring Irene. That's not true. If this were a Netflix doc, Irene, the victim, would be, would be a black woman, a black trans woman, and the stabber would be a white man. That's what would happen if it were Netflix doc. I mean, I'm not even really making a joke. That's how it would work. That's the kind of story that would be focused on. But young, young white woman stabbed by black career criminal, that, you know, obviously, obviously that's not focused on.

So then everyone says, well, imagine if the rules were reversed. I can't, I don't even say that anymore. Imagine if the role, that's not, I don't, I don't have to imagine. We all, we all know exactly. So the question is, are we, what are we going to do? Are we going to, are we going to prosecute crimes? Are we, are we going to have the, the courage to actually enforce the law, or not? Are we just going to whine and say, oh, imagine if the roles were reversed. Okay. What do people care about? What do people care about? NBC News has a poll. This is what Gen Z wants. This is, This is important to their personal definitions of success.

They have all these different categories. You know, their job, not having any debt, having kids, retiring early, getting married, emotional stability, all these things. And they polled men who voted for Trump, women who voted for Harris, men who voted for Harris, women who voted for Trump. I'm just going to show the very first thing, the top of the list, what is most important to Gen Z. Men who voted for Trump, most important, having children. Women who voted for Harris, most important, fulfilling job or career. Men who voted for Harris, most important fulfilling job and career. Same thing. Women who voted for Trump, this is the right-wing women.

Financial independence. Three of these four groups of people said that the most important thing in life to them involves money and the self. that's it financial independence job and career that's about money and it's about yourself only one of these four groups only the men who voted for trump said that what is most important to them is immaterial not material and about someone else not about themselves it's having kids one of these things is not like the other and so people are reading these numbers they say oh man even the conservative women are falling for this stuff, or even the conservative women are just

greedy materialists. Oh, man, we're screwed. This is over. I have a totally different take because it's always, all movements in politics are led by stable, normal, wise men. That's a fact. I don't, I hate to sound sexist about it or something. That's just how it goes. That's true in every industry. That's true in every political movement. It's true everywhere in the world. So it's the men who lead. And it cuts both ways. That means that a lot of the degradation that we've seen low these past five or six decades have been led by men. That's true. Some of the corruption, even some of the sexual selfishness and all the way. That has been led by men lead. Men tend to lead. Even in their dereliction of duty men are kind of leading.

So men are going to lead you out too. And the fact that the smart, stable, sane, normal men are now saying the most important thing to me is having children means that as we look toward the future, these are the guys who are going to lead. These are the guys who are leading the country right now, as a matter of fact. They're the ones saying, no, no, no, it's not just about material stuff. It's about immaterial stuff. It's not just about me. It's about other people. It's not just about the present.

It's not just about my bank account right now. It's about the future. Because having children is about a legacy. It's about looking into the future. It's about posterity. It's also about the past. When you're looking into the future, you cannot help but also look back to the past.

If you're caring about your kids, you're caring about your grandpa too. You're caring about a family line. I think it is no surprise that at this moment, for the first time in my life, when people talk about American history and what we stand for

and what we believe, we're not just cutting ourselves off in the 1960s or the 1860s or the 1776, but we're going back much further. You're seeing people start to talk about the great legacies of Europe, the cathedrals, the great thinkers, Aristotle, Thomas Aquinas, all this stuff that you're reading from the highest levels of the government, from the state department, all the way down into popular commentary. When I was a kid, sometimes you heard America posited as an antithesis to Europe.

We're the new world. Forget about that stupid old world. That's not conservative. There's nothing conservative about that view at all. We're part of a civilization. We're part of a legacy. That's what the guys are starting to get. I think this is a good sign. There's a lot of, I mean, you look at the women. Oh, man, they're not going to make it. The women who voted for Harris, the top things on their list. Fulfilling job career, having money to do the things you want. Emotional stability, good luck. That's an insurance supply among that crew. Using talents, resources to help others. Financial independence, having no debt, owning a home. It's like, all. All money. It's all about them just having money. Finally, way down toward the bottom, making family and community proud. And then after that, being spiritually grounded. Not good. So they're not having a good time. But the men who voted for Trump, they're looking, they're looking all right. Mom, can you tell me a story? Sure. Once upon a time, a mom needed a new car. Was she brave? She was tired, mostly. But she went to Carvana.com and found a great car at a great price. No

secret treasure map required. Did you have to find a dragon? Nope. She bought it. 100% online from her bed actually. Was it scary? Honey, it was as unscary as car buying could be. Did the car have a sunroof? It did, actually. Okay, good story. Car buying you'll want to tell stories about.

Buy your car today on... Carvada. Delivery fees may apply. Now, a related poll, I really want to get to it today. Gallup is reporting that capitalism is at its lowest level of popularity in 15 years. And this is probably not a... a good sign. Though again, you know, I have like the least popular opinion on capitalism, which is two cheers for capitalism, which is I love capitalism. I like efficient markets and all that.

But I don't worship the market. There are some people who make an idol out of the market. They seem to think that we're a political community that exists to serve a market rather than the other way around. Markets and the economy exists to serve us and to serve our political flourishing. It's not all about money. If you're a pure ideological capitalist, you literally worship Mammon. Okay. And that's not good. wise men have warned against that. Still, you don't want the country to become a bunch of commies. So there are a number of polls out here.

You can see, trend in Americans' positive ratings of capitalism and socialism. Capitalism, this poll only goes back to 2010. 61% have a positive view of capitalism in 2010. That drops all the way down to 54% 2025. 36% of Americans have a positive view of socialism. in 2010, ticks up to 39% in 2025. Okay, not a good sign. Give me the next poll. Trend in opinions of capitalism by political party. This to me is most interesting. The Republicans stay totally flat on average. There's a little tick down in the teens and then it tick up and then it kind of just, it ends basically where it began.

In fact, the opinion of capitalism is a little bit higher today than it was 15 years ago for Republicans. For independence, it's tracked down a little bit. For Democrats, it's tracked down a lot. Next, next chart. Trend in opinions of socialism by political party. You look at the Republicans, it actually ticked up a little bit after 2010. That's kind of weird. And then it ticked way, way down. Then it went up, down, and then it basically ends, it ends a little bit lower than where it started. So it's actually ticked down a little bit. It's pretty flat. For independence, tick down, then up. than down a little bit's ticked up barely, very slightly. For Democrats, it skyrocketed.

The positive opinion of socialism has ticked up a lot. Finally, last chart. Trend and opinion of big business. Now, this one I thought, okay, I bet the Republicans are going to have changed here. Because we used to be the party of big business, rich uncle penny bags, but now we're more populist. We're more for Main Street. No, actually, no.

The Republican opinion of big business is actually ticked up a little. bit, slightly. 2010, then it's shot up, then it went down, then it went up again, then it went down, and now it's slightly higher, but basically flat. For independence, it dropped a little bit, for Democrats, it dropped a lot. The inescapable conclusion is, the Democrats, the liberals, the leftists are the drivers of this change. That's it. There's a lot of talk about the new right and shifting views of markets and capitalism and big business and all this. I'm very interested in these questions. I'm a part of these discussions.

I am a card-carrying trad traditionalist. I very much want to move the Republican Party more in the direction of a classical kind of conservatism away from libertarianism and liberalism. But I'm looking at these numbers here. That's not what's going on. It is not the new rights fault that, that the opinion of capitalism has declined. The changes are being moved entirely by the left.

A little bit independence, but pretty much entirely by the left. Which means, from a really assumed out 30,000 foot view, the left is becoming more extreme in politics. The left is becoming more extreme. The right is continuing to dominate among normies. This is a very good sign for the Republican Party. The caveat is, I don't know that anyone after Trump can hold the coalition together. At the presidential level, I think J.D. Vance is very well positioned.

I'm a great admirer of the vice president. At the level of the Senate and the House and the governors, you know, there are some great politicians there. But, you know, Trump dominates everything. Can the coalition hold? I'm not sure. But I guess right now, if you're looking at the midterms in 2008, you think, oh, this Republican Party is really starting to lose people. Not really. Not really. the radicalism, economic radicalism, the communist up in New York, all the rest, we obviously know the social radicalism because of the trans agenda. That is all being pushed by the left. Okay, they are falling prey. They are falling prey to their own radical audience and base. I think that fringes them out among the normies. I think you look at this chart, just stand on a happy note. I think you look at this chart, you say, Republicans have a lot of runway here to dominate among normal people, among the median American. This is really, really good. Don't screw it up. But telling Republicans not to screw up is a fool's errand.

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