The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1836 - BREAKING: Gen Z De-Gays Itself

Episode Date: October 15, 2025

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becoming women and gender affirmation and non-binary identities. They're really surprised by this. But it's an even more surprising turn of events for skittish conservatives who seem to have forgotten the essential consolation of conservative political philosophy, which is that on a long enough time scale, reality eventually reasserts itself every time. I'm Michael Knowles. It's the Michael Knowles show. Welcome back to the show. You know the government's shut down? Did you remember that? I know they shut the government down, the Democrats, Chuck Schumer. They shut it down. And then we all just kind of forgot. And now Schumer's saying it could be the longest government shutdown ever. Well, now it might be impacting our military. So we will have Congressman August flueger on the show coming up.

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but here's the executive summary. After surging in the 20 teens and 20s, trans and queer identities are in decline among young Americans. For a while there, they were just skyrocketing. Every time you open the news, it was 5%, 10%, 25%, 30% of Gen Z identifies as LGBTQ. And now, after that massive surge, you know, it went from 1 in 4 maybe more to 1 and 3 maybe me, now it seems to be declining. The transgender share among university students peaked in 2023 and has almost halved since from nearly 7%

to under 4%. Some of us have been suggesting that maybe the transgender identity is a social contagion, and it's not some deeply rooted essential or biological aspect of identity. You know, the Libs have always said, no, no, no, the reason

that the number of trans identifying students keeps increasing is because people now feel liberated to come out of the closet and express their true selves. And some of us have said, I'm kind of skeptical of that. I think it's just like, a lot of people never even thought that this was a thing and then they're introduced to this

idea and then some of them go along with it because of mymesis because of the fact that we imitate each other and we're social creatures and that's how social contagions take hold. That's kind of what we thought looks like the data are now backing that up. The study finds the share of students identifying as not heterosexual fell by around 10 points in the same period and not heterosexual is a weird category. Actually, I had a friend in college who, I remember this. This guy would, he would pick up chicks. You know, he was, other than some of his fashion choices, by all signs, was a straight guy.

But he identified as non-heterosexual. And to my knowledge, he never did any weird stuff with dudes or anything, but he identified as not heterosexual. Because, I don't know, in the late 2000s and 20 teens, that was cool. That was fashionable. It was square to be straight. You know, weirdly, I don't know, maybe he thought it would help him pick up chicks or something. But it's very hard to pin down what that means. In any case, that identity has dropped precipitously.

Ten points. Same period. The decline in the non-heterosexual share is concentrated in the queer or other sexual categories. And to a lesser extent, bisexuality. Okay, so you're seeing a decline in all those groups. Today's freshmen are less BTQ plus, so not the L, forget about the LG, the lesbians and gays are basically flat, but the bisexual, trans, and queer plus, all the rest of the alphabet. The freshmen are much less likely to be that than the seniors are, suggesting that the decline will continue. Who knows next year's freshman, who knows the freshman after that?

Probably you're going to see more of a decline. The decline in BTQ plus identification does not appear to be connected to lower social media use. religious revival, a shift to the political right, or lower support for woke ideology. So it's not just that more kids coming into school are Catholic. It's not just that more kids coming into school are, you know, hardline, rock ribs, Southern Baptists, or MAGA people, or that they've put the Instagram away and that it's that TikTok that's in fact, it doesn't appear to be correlated with any of that. It seems to be a broader social trend that the Lavender Mafia, at least the BTQ plus part of it,

is just declining generally. Finally, there is evidence that improved mental health has reduced BTQ plus identification, which is kind of redundant, yes. I don't know if you're allowed to say it, even today on social media, but yeah, if you're a guy who thinks you're a chick, you have mental issues by definition. So if you are more mentally stable, if you have better mental health, then you're much less likely to deal with all of those social pathologies. Okay. Now, if you dig into this study of all the charts and everything here, the real focus is not on the L or the G or even on the T. It's more on the Q, on the Q part, queer, which is that catch-all, specifically non-binary. If you look here, and they compile numbers from Andover, from Fire, the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education, Brown, a couple of other organizations.

And you're seeing it broadly across these organizations, share not identifying as male or female per fire, you know, various sexual orientation, gender identity. Even here, let's just look at fire's numbers. For straight, it's pretty flat. straight back in 2020 was 80 plus percent, then it dipped a little bit during the apotheosis, and then it kind of came back up in 2025, people are straight again. And if you look at bisexual, it's pretty much flat, up a little bit and down, gay, lesbian, pretty much flat. If you look at queer, that's the one that was lower, it peaked, and then it declined. Queer, non-binary. Why is that one in particular seeming to lead the way. I'll tell you exactly why. Because the non-binary gender

queer, queer generally identity is the least sensual of the sexual gender identities that had become fashionable in the last 10 years. The other ones, if you're gay, if you're lesbian, if you're bisexual, trans, whatever, those are all much more physical. What? What? What What does it mean to be gay? It means you're a dude who likes doing certain things with other guys. If you're a lesbian, it means you're a lady who likes Birkenstocks and Subaru cars. Now, it means that you, you know, ostensibly like doing physical things with other women. If you're transgender, you like the idea of your body as being the opposite sex. It's very sense-based.

You know, it's very sensual. It's very physical. It corresponds more to physical desire. the non-binary ideology is just an abstraction. What does that mean? You're totally abstracting away from desire, from physical activity, from sex. You're basically saying I'm androgynous. I'm like a big gray blob or whatever. So it's all the same ideology. The ideology that says that your physical body has nothing to do with your true self and your true self has nothing to do with how you ought to comport yourself. It's all the same ideology. But I'm not at all surprised that the more abstract version is leading the way in the freefall and that the trans and the queer and the L and the G are lagging a little bit behind, even if they're going to go in the same direction. Of course, the idea is bankrupt. Sometimes people just develop physical habits or physical addictions even or physical inclinations

that are tougher to break. But the idea, the ideology, the abstraction, totally in freefall. I'm also, just to put a final point on it, I'm not surprised that this is, that this is collapsing, that trans is basically over. I predicted it at CPAC in 2023, 2022, 2020, I said, look, there's no compromising with this. It's either true or it's false, and it happens to be false. And so the ideology has to be eradicated from public life entirely for the good of everyone, for the good of society. Also, especially for the good of the people who've fallen prey to this confusion because it's really bad for them. It's fake, it's false, and we just have to acknowledge that and move on.

That is what has happened. That has happened because the gods of the copy book headings rear their heads again. Are you familiar with this poem? You know, Rudyard Kipling, he's great. He's the one who wrote the poem about how much he loves cigars, and he said a woman is only a woman, but a good cigar is a smoke. He's a great, wonderful poet, British poet, and there's a very famous poem he wrote. I'm going to read you two stances.

This is going to make you, this is going to make you feel the conservative consolation. In this world that is always shooting arrows at us, this is a great consolation. As I pass through my incarnations in every age and race, I make my proper prostrations to the gods of the marketplace, peering through reverent fingers, I watch them flourish and fall, and the gods of the copybook headings, I notice outlasts them all. The gods of the copybook headings. Those maxims that we just hold to be true throughout all ages, throughout cultures, they just keep coming back. You know, the old wisdom of old women say. Then the gods of skip down a few stances.

Then the gods of the market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew. And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true, that all is not gold that glitters, and two and two make four. And the gods of the copybook headings limped up to explain it once more. Those smooth-tonged wizards feeding the marketplace, you know, of fashions and fads, they were found wanting. And the gods of the copy book headings had to explain to people that two plus two equals four again. And, you know, actually men and women are different.

And a man can't become a woman. And those things that are always true everywhere, they're still true. And no matter how hard you try to pretend otherwise, no matter what force your tyranny of will you impose upon us to make us say it, it won't be true. And on a long enough time scale, you're going to lose. In this case, it took about five years. Now, speaking of medical issues, Cheryl Hines, the wife of Bobby Kennedy Jr., just completely destroyed the ladies of the view. We'll get to that in one moment. First, I want to tell you about Christian care ministry. Text Michael to 70246. Folks, there's no way around it. When it comes to health care, people are really frustrated with how much it costs and how to pay for it.

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70-246. To get the facts, it's the word Michael. Don't spell it like a barista, spell it correctly. M-I-C-H-A-E-L, you will get the link. Michael, to 702-46. Cheryl Hines. Better known, even than she is as Bobby Kennedy's wife, she's better known as Larry David's wife on Curbure Enthusiasm, And Larry David, who is to the left of Lenin, is just absolutely furious at any Republican over the last decade, at least.

Cheryl Hines goes on the view with all of her old gal pals from the Hollywood circles. And they're furious at her because her husband, who used to be very popular in Hollywood circles, Democrat Bobby Kennedy, is supporting the evil orange man who keeps making our country better and bringing about world peace. And they hate her for it. And so they really, they're going to put the screws to her. And one of their biggest issues is that Bobby Kennedy Jr. is sticking his nose in where it doesn't belong. And he is compromising our precious big pharma.

Even baby formula. Now we're finding out there's arsenic, there's lead. So the question is, who is running HHS when they, allowed lead and arsenic in a baby formula. How is that person not dangerous? Well, two wrongs don't make a right. No. Well, I'm saying Bobby is the one getting this out.

I know. We're good for him on that. Thank you. Can we just clear one thing before you go? Yes. Okay. Joy Behar. That's not even the best clip from the show. Joy Behar.

It's like, you know, two wrongs don't make a right. That's her answer to Cheryl Heinz saying, hey, Bobby Kennedy got into this job, and he's noticing that there's a bunch of poison in our food and in our medicine and stuff that really shouldn't be there. And so she goes, yeah, but two wrongs don't make it right. Cheryl Hines goes, what are you talking about two wrongs? He's getting the poison out.

And Joy Baer goes, yeah, yeah, well, good for him. She doesn't know what to say. On this issue in particular, on all issues pertaining to science, the left really doesn't know what to say when you challenge them on it. because they take it as a maxim, as an axiom, that the science is on their side and any time a conservative or a Republican or even a lifelong Democrat who happens to be working for a Republican, Bobby Kennedy, anytime they intervene in any way in medical science that they have to be wrong. But, and this is part of the parties, you know, switching the coalitions, kind of moving about here is it used to be that the anti-Big Pharma people were all in the last. Now they happen to be on the right. Used to be that the big corporate chills were all on the right. Now they happened to be on the left. And this is confusing people like Joy Behar. So Bayhar goes, yeah, well, your husband is just doing stuff in pharma and that has to be bad. And Cheryl Hines goes, well, he's getting arsenic out of baby food. She goes, yeah, well, okay, I mean, good for him. That's fine. She doesn't know how to handle that. It's true on any medical issue. The trans thing, obviously, as we were just discussing. But really all of them. This is a real blind. spot for the left is they

believe their own press releases. They really think that the right wingers are complete idiots, just totally ignorant when it comes to matters of science. They think people who are politically conservative, especially religious, are just total dolts. And that, you know, it's the atheists

and the secularists and the liberals who have really led the way. And that isn't true. It's really funny when you point out, you say, you know, like the Catholics, for instance, have discovered like every single thing that's ever been discovered. You know, like even you're, you guys like the Big Bang, for instance, you're, yeah, there was a Catholic priest who theorized the Big Bang. You're like, modern genetics,

Mendel actually, you know, as the father of modern genetics. You know, Copernicus was, I think he was in a third order of a religious order. Like, the list goes on and on and on. What are you people talking about? And so she doesn't know, she's really weak on this. Then when they can't, when they can't argue on the substance, they have to go back to credentialism. And this is where Cheryl Hines really knocks it out of the park. They, they, the libs think they have her. They say, well, your husband, who's the Secretary of Health and Human Services, doesn't have a doctorate. I just, I do want to say, you know he's not a doctor and he's not a professional. Yes. And oftentimes when he's talking, oftentimes when he's speaking, he is speaking not with,

the best information that we can get because, you know, give you pause and are you able to say, you know, that might not actually be so because I've got my experience and I've lived with this and I'm still here. So are you able to have those conversations with her? I am able to have those conversations. And just to be clear, 90% of secretaries of HHS have not been doctors. But they've had a science background. Yeah. No, to be honest, one of Obama's secretaries of HHS was an economist. But most, the majority of them that haven't had medical backgrounds, have a science background. Wait, don't do anything else. Don't say anything else yet. Because I do want to have to take a break.

Oh, wait, wait, wait, don't say anything else. Don't say anything else. Don't say anything else because you just totally smack down my point. Yeah, well, look, your husband might be right. And okay, fine. I guess it's good to take arsenic out of baby food. But like, he doesn't have his PhD. Yeah, basically no secretaries of HHS have ever had a doctorate. Huh. And then, what was it, Sonny Hoston there? It was kind of prepared for that pushback a little bit and said, yes, but they've all had,

you know, some kind of medical expertise. And first of all, Bobby Kennedy, as being a medical and environmental lawyer, actually does have some expertise there. But then Cheryl Hineskin was actually going to say, because one of Obama's was an economist. Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. We got to cut this off. We're going to go to commercial right now.

Absolutely bodying. Great stuff. Great stuff. Cheryl Hines just bodied those ladies on the view. Now, speaking of HHS and bioethics, a disturbing story that I've been meaning to get to for a few days now. And the time is now. Let's see.

Here we are. National Post, story out of Canada. American man gets heart from 38-year-old Ontario ALS patient who died by MAID, medical assistance in dying, also known as assisted suicide. So Canada legalizes assisted suicide. And people who have even a slightly functioning sense of morality immediately said, well, this is really bad. Assisted suicide is really, really bad. It violates the Hippocratic Oath. First of all, Hippocratic Oath begins first, do no harm. Assisted suicide harms just immediately. harms because it kills people. And also, it's going to lead to all of these terrible outcomes. It's going to pressure old people who many, many old people feel like a burden on their families and they are more prone to depression and to despair. It's going to encourage a lot of them to kill themselves when they should not kill themselves. They should be loved and cherished in their old age and have a sense of dignity and not be permitted or not certainly not encouraged to fall into

despair. But it's not just old people. It's going to be people who have serious illnesses. they're not going to persevere. They're not going to, even as they suffer, recognize that suffering is a part of the human condition and be an example of how to suffer, and I believe at least suffering is sanctifying. But at the very least, I think we have to acknowledge suffering is an inescapable part of the human condition.

And if we seek to eliminate suffering, ultimately we're going to eliminate human life. And you have seen this, because it's not just people who have some terribly painful degenerative illness who, you know, you can say with nearly 100% certainty, will, you know, will never recover and will be an excruciating pain toward the end, even though we have good palliative care now. But all of a sudden it starts to creep back. Now it's adults who don't have, say, Lugarig's disease. It's adults with depression. Adults with, I don't know,

an eating disorder, say, who they say, I'm going to kill myself. And the Canadian government says, that's okay. Then it's teenagers in certain parts of the world. then it's the mentally handicapped, then it's all of a sudden this is getting really, really dark. Now we're harvesting the organs from these people. Now, and we've had conversations on this show about the organ donation market for a long time. Lots of dubious ethics in the medical donation because it's reliant upon this scientific concept of brain, not even, it's an ideological concept of brain death, which really doesn't come about until the 19th. or so, and brain death is dubious because often what happens in the case of medical harvesting of organs is it's not that the person dies and then you harvest the organs and you donate them to someone else. It's that the harvesting of the organs is what literally kills the person,

which creates a lot of ethical problems. In any case, an American man just received a heart from a 38-year-old Canadian who killed himself. Is this the kind of market that we want to be encouraging. I make jokes about Canada being America's Evil Top Hat all the time. I don't actually want to kill them all and harvest their organs. That's a bridge too far. That's taking the joke a little bit too far, wouldn't you say? Okay, if most people, I guess they're going to be liberals who say, no, it's fine, it's good. This man had a disease, and he made the choice to kill himself, and because the only moral criterion of liberalism is consent, then he has the right to do that because liberalism presumes the idea of self-ownership, the idea that we own ourselves, which is not true,

not true at all, because of all of that, they're going to say, well, this is fine, what's wrong with it? Now an American man gets a heart out of it. I don't know. I think more people, though, the conservatives and the moderates are going to say, hey, suicide is bad, and we shouldn't encourage it, and we definitely shouldn't be profiting from it. And we shouldn't open up markets in the organs of the people we've encouraged through the law to kill themselves in other countries. You see how this could go wrong real fast? But it started with such good intentions. I'm speaking to the kind of moderate, conservative, or liberal who said, I, you know, grandpa really was having a hard go of it at the end there, and maybe it's okay to have a medical assistance in dying, also

known as suicide. Maybe suicide's okay in some cases. We just don't want to let it get too far. We don't want to let the slippery slope, you know, slip down too far. This was always there. This was inevitable. We were always in this place where if you make the Faustian bargain, if you compromise on moral issues, even for good intentions, this was inevitable. M-AID in Canada has existed for like five minutes so far. We're already harvesting the suicide's organs. Not good. I think we need to do something about that here.

Okay. Now, you know how the government's shutdown? A lot of people had forgotten. Now we're starting to feel a little pain of it. We are going to speak with the chairman of the Republican Study Committee momentarily. First, I want to tell you about YAF. It is shocking. It is a scandal that more people have not heard of YAF's national journalism center.

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Flueger from the great state of Texas, chairman of the Republican Study Committee, here to remind us, one, that the government is in fact shut down, and to get to what some of the consequences of that shutdown could be, notably on military readiness. Congressman Flugher, thank you for coming on the show. Michael, thanks for having me and thanks for highlighting these issues. Unfortunately, we have to do that now. So, Congressman, I know the conventional wisdom is Republicans get blamed for shutdowns. Maybe that will happen in the long run, but of all the shutdowns that have happened in my lifetime, this one, I think, is most clearly owned by the Democrats. The Republicans have unified government. The Republicans offered a clean,

continuing resolution just to keep the government going as other issues are ironed out. This is exclusively a Democrat shutdown. Now, Chuck Schumer believes that the longer the shutdown goes on, the better it is for Democrats. He said that. It's been reported now for days. I think for most of us, we haven't really noticed the government shutdown. And I think a lot of people would say, this is a good opportunity to fire some people and maybe shrink the government. Okay. Now, however, it seems to be impacting military readiness. Tell us about that. Well, you're right. And I'll get to the military radius just to answer your question, though. I mean, you heard a senior Democrat aide say, until planes fall out of the sky, we're not going to open the government back up. So they're owning it 100 percent. And how disgusting of a comment that was, we had a clean CR. We did our job in the House. And now Senate Democrats under Chuck Schumer's distasteful leadership have voted eight times to not fund the government, to not fund the military. And I'm a veteran. I flew combat mission. in Iraq and Syria.

You know, I was on active duty during several shutdowns. They hurt readiness. They hurt your ability to focus on the threat on the missions, because now commanders are having to worry about where their troops, their young enlisted and young officers, how they're going to put food on the table and take care of their families. I mean, think about the soldier who's deployed right now with a young family, maybe a baby at home.

You know, a lot of our troops are on food stamps, and they're worried about that. not worried about doing the mission. They're worried about taking care of their family and rightfully so. So absolutely it hurts mission readiness. It hurts our focus and it hurts our national security. In fact, the troops are on food stamps as a national disgrace, frankly. That needs to be addressed in a different way. But on the point of the paychecks, there is reporting out now that the military might miss a paycheck. These military families who, even if they're not totally destitute, they need those paychecks.

Is that going to happen? What is the administration and Republicans in Congress? What are they doing to prevent that? And what are the Democrats have to say about it? Well, we've seen recently where President Trump stepped up, did the right thing, told Secretary Higsev to find the money and to make sure that they get paid on the 15th of this month. So, you know, that's a big deal that they did that because that has not happened in the past. but they're taking money out of other pots, out of, you know, other sources where, you know,

probably for operations and readiness and mission-type money. So it's not going to last forever. You know, most of our military personnel get paid on the 15th and at the, you know, the end of the month. So this isn't going to last forever. If Democrats keep up this theater, which it is, make no mistake, this is political theater at its very worst, then they will miss a paycheck eventually. I'd like to know where my Democrat colleagues are, those that served, the veterans on the Democrat side, where are they? Why are they not stepping up right now and rising above the noise and doing the right thing?

Because guess what? When Nancy Pelosi was Speaker and when Joe Biden was president, Republicans didn't shut the government down. And where are they? Where are they right now? Why are they not doing the right thing? I'm so disappointed in them. Are Democrats going to object? to the Republicans who are trying to find money, you know, borrowing from Peter to pay Paul to

make sure that the military actually are paid? Are Democrats going to try to impede that? I mean, can you imagine, you know, Chuck Schumer leading the charge saying, that's illegal. You can't pay the troops. I mean, what kind of idiot would do that? But yeah, I mean, I would not put it past them. I mean, this is exactly what Democrats do. You fix a problem, and then they find another way to lie about it, to have deceit about it, to do something completely, well, I was going to say another word, but to do something that doesn't make any sense at all. You know, listen, it's a family show. We try to keep it clean. Sometimes I'm tempted too, though. So before I let you go, Congressman, how long is this going to go on for? I mean,

you know, the Republicans open up with, we're going to have a clean CR, so we're not trying to cram our stuff into this continuing resolution, but Democrats wanted to cram their stuff in, notably Republicans highlighted health care for illegal aliens. But okay, fine, you know, we're in this fight now. What is the end of this fight? If Chuck Schumer, sincerely believes that the longer it goes on, the better it is for Democrats. Then is the government we're going to reopen next week, the week after, two months from now? And whenever it does reopen, what's the deal going to be? Well, first off, I think Mike Johnson is doing a great job. We've done our job. We've voted to fund the government. It's the simplest thing. This was a Joe Biden signed

budget or an auto-pin signed budget. So this is a budget that Democrats already voted on. So how do they now come to us and say, well, we can't vote on it now because, well, no, you actually, this was, this was Biden's budget. So I think there's probably one of a couple of ways. Number one, Senate Democrats need to get over their theater and just do the right thing. And assuming that happens, the stalemate. Okay, so assuming that doesn't happen, they're conflating several things, and they're putting these ACA premium subsidies in there. They want us to fund illegal immigrants into health care, which we've said absolutely not. I mean, these are hundreds of billions of dollars in waste.

So I think probably what ends up happening is President Trump will probably have to save the day and bring people together like he's done and make some sort of deal. But let's make one thing clear. The prize for Democrats opening the government is not going to be ACA subsidies. We will negotiate on things like that when we get the government open. But they're not going to hold this hostage like this and allow. at the American people and say, look, we just, you know, we just did this political stunt and now we get something out of it. No, I'm sorry, but the American public gets tired. My district especially

is just tired of the lies and tired of the games. They want us to go to Washington and do what we said we were going to do, which is what has happened. And I think this is the Democrats only shot to stop Donald Trump because he is the only president who has done everything he said he would do. Yeah, there's this problem for the Dems, which is that keeps the people are on our side and, you know, we're going to, we're the resistance, the voice of the people. But of course, the people voted for Trump. And it wasn't, it wasn't just that he won the electoral college, which is ultimately all that matters. He won the popular vote. And the Republicans have the House and the Senate and the presidency. And because they keep winning the presidency, they have the

Supreme Court. And just at a certain point, the Democrats probably need to get the message that most of the people are not on your side. And I agree, this is, this is pretty desperate. I also agree that you can't give in to the Democrats, especially on the health care stuff, because it just rewards them. It gives them an incentive to do this kind of thing again. It's a real thorny issue, and I suspect you're right that the White House is going to have to step in and twist some arms and make some carrots and sticks. Congressman Flueger, thank you so much for coming on the show. Thanks for having me. Appreciate it. God bless. All right, we'll see. Maybe we'll have Congressman Flueger back on two months when this government is still shut down. Okay, much more to say about assisted suicide, actually, even on the American side of it.

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My favorite comment yesterday is from Martha C.8529 who says, I find it funny when Trump says stuff like, I was being a little cute. Loll. It's such an unassuming way of talking. Yeah, I like it. People even on the right have hated that since 2016, since he started running. And that stuff doesn't bother me at all. It's very familiar because it's not high-minded. It's not abstract. It doesn't require multiple degrees to know what Trump is doing. He just talks like a New Yorker. That's how New Yorkers talk. And I think if more of the Republican establishment had just been familiar with that in 2016, it would have saved us a lot of rancor. Okay. Turning to electoral politics on this issue of assisted suicide, here is Abigail Spanberger, the Democrat member of Congress who's now running. for a governor of Virginia.

Here is her take on assisted suicide. I support and I would support legislation that legalizes the right to die with dignity of a person's choosing, and that would include allowing for medical providers to provide prescriptions for life-ending

prescriptions. In the cases of someone who's deemed medically competent to make that decision, mentally competent to make that decision, I oppose the ability of religious institutions to put their religious-based ideas on individuals and their health care choices and options. I believe that we should trust people to have relationships

with their health care providers that lead them to make strong decisions based on their medical practices. And I do not believe that people should have the option to allow their own personal beliefs to dictate the type of medical care that they are providing their patients. What? What was that last part? I don't believe that doctors should let their beliefs impact the medical care they're providing. What do you go to a doctor for? You go to a doctor for his judgment, for his wisdom, because he is the expert, because he knows something that you don't know. What does that mean? It's just some stupid liberal bromide. I don't think that doctors should let their beliefs and thoughts impact what they do. Well, then what the hell are you hiring them for? Why? I want them to, advance my beliefs and thoughts. Oh, okay, got it. So it's not that you, you know, advance some kind of neutral, objective, liberated order. You just think that your evil ideas should supersede the medical views of medical professionals and the ethical views of medical professionals. This is

sick stuff. This woman is a sick person, Abigail Spanberger. She continues to endorse Jay Jones for attorney general. I mean, they're essentially running on a ticket. And Jay Jones is the one who was discovered to have been wishing for the murder of his Republican opponent and the opponent's kids and said that the birth of those children was breeding little fascists. This woman supports that. So at least she's consistent. She supports killing babies in the womb. She supports killing Republican babies outside of the womb.

And she supports killing grandma and people who are mentally ill and people who are sick and people who are depressed. So, okay, I guess she's consistent. She wants to kill like everybody. And this is the moderate. That's what makes it interesting to me. that the Democrats have evil views. It's that she's the moderate. Abigail Spanberger, when the Democrats were talking about abolishing police, Abigail Spanberger said, no, I don't

think we should abolish police. When the Democrats were trying to stop Republicans from reducing crime in D.C., Abigail Spanberger said, no, we should, we shouldn't reduce punishments for the criminals in D.C. During COVID, when the libs were locking down the whole world, Abigail Spanberger was one of those who voted to end the COVID national emergency. There were not that many Democrats who did that. When the Democrats were saying everything Trump does is evil, Abigail Spanberger was one of the people who supported Trump's rewriting of NAFTA, the USMCA trade deal.

She is, relative to the Democrats, a moderate. And still, she supports government-promoted, government protected doctor encouraged suicide and the murder of Republicans and our children, not to mention killing babies in the womb and all the rest of it. The most moderate Democrat in the country today is like a communist compared to the Democrat Party of even 20 years ago. That's not to say that the Republican Party has not in some ways moved to the right. it has. Let's say this is the right, this is the left. I'll describe this for you if you're only listening. Over time, yes, the right has moved a little bit to the right. The left has moved so, so far to the left,

that they would minimize, excuse, and even celebrate the murder of the assassination of a right-wing political debater, and they would refuse to withdraw endorsements from a would-be law enforcement top official, a attorney general of Virginia who wishes for the murder of Republicans and our kids. assisted suicides or killing the vulnerable. That is totally kosher with these guys. Okay. Speaking of Charlie, speaking of Charlie Kirk,

yesterday, beautiful ceremony at the White House, Charlie was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom and his widow, Erica, showed up to receive the award. And there was this great moment of levity as Erica was, you know, mustering an incredible amount of strength

to be able to... Can you imagine a widow especially of a young husband with little kids speaking at anything at a luncheon this shortly after her husband's murder. And she gets up at the White House speaking to the entire world. And she manages to find a moment of levity with the president. God, when it was costly, but that's what we're called to do. Surprisingly enough, he did pray for his enemies, which is very hard, but he did. He did. He did.

For those who can't see it, Trump laughs. I mean, I saw him do it. He throws his hands in the air. He never did it in front of anyone else, but I can attest to that. See, great money's laugh. He's really... He also loved people when it was in connection. You can tell he's really getting a kick out of it. And it's really, this was a great little line from Erica. But it also shows Trump's humility. And also, I think, vindicates my view of when Trump said, Charlie said pray for his enemies. He wanted the best for his enemies. I hate my enemies. And I don't want what's best for them. Then you had all these pearl clutching Christians who said, doesn't understand the true gospel and he doesn't understand. He's making a joke, guys. It's a

joke. It's a nice little moment of levity. He's saying Charlie, even if he legitimately struggles with willing the best for his enemies, which might be the case, he's saying Charlie did that. He is better than me. He's in heaven looking down angrily at me right now. He's saying, I'm not worthy. Lord have mercy on me, a sinner. That's good. And he's laughing here when Erica makes this joke. It's really nice. even more beautiful aspect of the award, which was well deserved, was on the back of it. Do we have a clip of it? So if you look on the back of the Presidential Medal of Freedom, it says Charles James Kirk and is a cross engraved on the back, which I think is the first time ever that a Medal of Freedom has come with a cross engraved on it. That's really beautiful. And, you know, if you try to see the

silver lining in the storm cloud of Charlie's murder. That's it. There are a handful of good reactions amid a lot of horrible reactions, but the real silver lining is this return to church. I've seen it personally, you know, multiple times, as have a lot of people, this increased concern for religious truth and also, I think, a deeper understanding of freedom. When the story of this is all written, it will be significant that Charlie was wearing a shirt that said freedom. He was wearing a shirt that said freedom. And that word is so abused that we tend to kind of laugh at it today. So, oh, here we go. Another platitude about freedom in the abstract. But that's not really how Charlie viewed freedom. You know, Charlie coming from a Christian perspective, understood that freedom is

not just doing whatever you want, that freedom has discipline to it. Freedom is grounded in the truth. I think increasingly conservatives are coming to that. He wasn't the only one, you know, who had come to that conclusion. Increasingly were coming to that conclusion. That's how we used to understand it in American history. Then we went through a fever in the late 20th century where we started to think freedom meant, you know, doing weird sex stuff and doing a bunch of drugs and letting criminals roam the streets. And we thought that was freedom. It's not. It's not. And the gods of the copybook headings come back again to educate us. And the true, freedom, you know, is found in Christ. Perfect freedom is found in Christ. Christ says,

you know, the truth will set you free. He says, take up my, you know, take my yoke upon you, but my yoke is easy and my burden is light. You know, if you would follow me, you know, pick up your cross. That paradoxically, that's the kind of freedom. Because the truth sets you free, lies enslave you. The wages of sin is death. All sin is a kind of a slavery. We're coming to recognize that again, that it's this kind of shallow negative view of liberty, where it's just freedom from interference so that we can go, you know, engage in whatever deviant, aberrant desires we want and behaviors that we want, that's kind of silly. One, because you can never be totally free from interference because we live in society. The only true kind of freedom involves

substantive goods, you know, and ultimately it's perfected in Christ. And the truth set us free. This is why people are ditching the false ideologies, especially the sexual ideologies. It's a lie and enslaves people. That connection is the first time ever in the history of the Presidential Medal of Freedom that you see a connection between this word freedom and the perfection of freedom, what freedom really means. When this story is written, that's going to be very significant. That's going to be that the author of this story did a really good job pointing that out. there's a story I really, really want to get to because it's an excuse to read another poem.

It comes from the Washington Post that people once again are terrified of dying alone. So another one of those gods of the copy book headings coming back saying, you know, we went into this hyper-individualism that said we all just, we don't need anybody, we should get divorced, we should live on our own, we should ignore our families, we should ignore our friends,

we should just do whatever we want. You do you, just focus on me, self-care. Look out for number one. And now people are returning to an age-old fear of dying alone. But I think everyone is missing the point on this. And I'll leave you on that cliffhanger because maybe we'll get to it tomorrow. Ryan Reynolds here from MintMobil, the message for everyone paying big wireless way too much. Please, for the love of everything good in this world, stop.

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