The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1846 - 10,000 Attend JD Vance & Erika Kirk’s Viral Campus Speech

Episode Date: October 30, 2025

Vice President JD Vance resets Republican orthodoxy at a TPUSA campus event, an Iraqi "refugee" threatens to leave the U.S. over SNAP cuts, and Senator Rand Paul joins the show to discuss the government shutdown. Click here to join the member-exclusive portion of my show: https://bit.ly/4biDlri Ep.1846 - - - DailyWire+: Join us now during our exclusive Deal of the Decade. Get everything for $7 a month. Not as fans. As fighters. Go to DailyWire.com/Subscribe to join now. Finally, Friendly Fire is here! No moderator, no safe words. Now available at https://www.dailywire.com/show/friendly-fire GET THE ALL-NEW YES OR NO EXPANSION PACK TODAY: https://bit.ly/41gsZ8Q - - - Today's Sponsors: PureTalk - Switch to PureTalk and start saving today! Visit https://PureTalk.com/KNOWLES Policygenius - Head to https://policygenius.com/KNOWLES to compare free life insurance quotes from top companies and see how much you could save. Ave Maria Mutual Funds - Learn more at https://avemariafunds.com/MICHAEL - - - Socials: Follow on Twitter: https://bit.ly/3RwKpq6 Follow on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3BqZLXA Follow on Facebook: https://bit.ly/3eEmwyg Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3L273Ek - - - Privacy Policy: https://www.dailywire.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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But three, the most notable part came in the Q&A. When the vice president rewrote GOP orthodoxy to bring it more in line with classical conservatism, with Gen Z conservatism in particular, and also coincidentally with the truth. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles show. Welcome back to the show. As the government shutdown carries on, there's some threats to the snap. program, EBT food stamps.

This is a video gone viral of an Iraqi refugee. Put refugee in quotes because he's a guy. He's a grown man. He seems to be totally able-bodied. Looks like he could work and support himself. And he's gone viral for saying that he won't be able to stay in this country if the government doesn't pay for his food. Raises a lot of questions, actually.

This shutdown has exposed a lot, I think. But one thing it's exposed is all of the abuses to our entitlement programs, how they manipulate the rest of the economy. So we will get to that momentarily. We have an expert, someone very close to the situation coming on. First, though, we have a comment for the day, and we're going to get to it in the member room segmentum with a great panel. But please let me know your answers below. Is it okay for Christians to celebrate Halloween? Let me know your thoughts, and then I'll give you the correct answer.

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before we get into the Iraqi refugees, quote unquote, who apparently can't live without government subsidized food. Before we get into unbelievable CNN polls on issues ranging from the shutdown to the environment, I want to bring on Senator Rand Paul. I can't say he's my senator. He is like the top hat to my state. He is the senator from Kentucky and obviously a stalwart, especially on matters of government spending.

Who's going to give us a little update on this never-ending government shutdown? Senator, thank you for coming on the show. Thanks for having me. So, Senator, I was at your place of work two days ago, and it was very weird because there were many fewer people in the capital than there usually are. traffic in D.C. was great. I could get from Reagan Airport to the Capitol, and I in no time. I don't know. To me, this government shutdown seemed pretty good. There's some polling that suggests that the shutdown really hasn't worked for Democrats in the way they thought that it would. And so as a result, there seems to be no impetus to actually reopen the government. I mean, from the legislature, where does it stand? you know there's always the danger that government closes down and no one notices and that's a little bit of why typically people will play it up you know you remember when one of the shutdowns i think this was under obama he closed down the overlook on the side of the road to see mount rushmore they actually sent people out there with pylons and tape and roped it off it actually involved effort because no one is usually there you just pull over and it's a viewpoint but You know, I think that what hasn't been discussed enough of is the Democrats' objections.

People gloss over it. They say, well, they're objecting because they want these Obamacare subsidies. Well, someone should discuss what they are. If you make $225,000 a year, the Obamacare subsidy gives you $1,500. If you make $100,000 a year, you get $13,000. So the Democrats are refusing to go along with the spending level that they voted for, last year. Essentially, these are the Biden's spending levels. They're refusing to vote again for them because unless they get subsidies for rich people. I mean, really. So food stamps are going to end, you know, in a couple of days, but they're doing this because they want to make sure somebody making $100,000 a year gets a $13,000 health care premium subsidy. So I think it's a ridiculous

notion and ultimately the Democrats will have to come back to the table. Now, from my point of view, both the plans are terrible. I mean, the Republican plan will add two trillion in debt, the Democrat, the Democrat, the Democrat, the Democrat. I would prefer something that I've presented, which is called the penny plan, which would actually balance the budget over about a five-year period. Well, I love that point, actually, because when I looked at the proposal, you know, the continuing resolution and then looking ahead to some of the budgetary fights, I thought this doesn't change all that much. I mean, the CR is literally, as you say, just giving Democrats the opportunity to go along with something they already voted for under Biden. So then what changes do they want? I suspect they honed in

on this health care issue because it's one of the few issues that they still seem to be above water on. There was a poll came out. I forget who put it out about a month ago. Show Democrats are on the wrong side of basically every major political issue other than women's issues, which are not a high priority for most voters. really just means abortion, environmentalism, not a high priority for most voters, and health care.

So they said, okay, we'll double down on health care. But when you dig into the reality of it, there was this problem of subsidizing health care for illegal aliens. And then as you point out,

subsidies for rich people. So then my question is, if the shutdown isn't hurting Republicans and the Democrats maybe launched it as a Hail Mary, it's not really working for them either, what's going to actually reopen the government? Is it going to be the end

of the SNAP program? Is it going to be flights being delayed or canceled? Is there, when do we think it'll reopen? I think it's going to happen soon because I think the Democrats, their whole history, has been criticizing Republicans for shutting down the government. Now that they're on the side of not continuing the current spending levels, I think really they're beginning to break. I think that within a week, the government will reopen again.

And I think it happens quicker, the more of the public understands that they're shutting it down in order to preserve subsidies for rich people. I mean, this has not been discussed in the mainstream media. Very few people have dug into the details. We're not talking about health care for people making $25,000 or $5,000 or $5,000 or $5,000 or $5,000. We're talking about subsidies for people making $200,000 a year. It's completely insane. And I think if you polled the issue, are you with Democrats on health? health care if it means they're closing the government down to preserve subsidies for people making

$200,000 a year. It's a loser. But the only reason they're winning on is because nobody has any idea what they're actually advocating. It's a great point, Senator Paul. I think you've thrown it into stark relief that, you know, early on, we said, look, we all agree this shutdown is about Democrats trying to make some move on health care. But then when you dig into the details, okay, how many Americans really want to subsidize health care for illegal aliens? How many Americans think that rich people don't get enough. You know, we need to really focus on the, won't somebody please think about the rich people? So a great point.

I'm seeing some reporting now coming out of the hill that says that Democrats are starting to get a little weak in the knee. Amazing. I never thought I'd see it in my lifetime that a government shutdown would not be blamed on Republicans and that the Democrats would have to buckle. Senator Paul, please enjoy the light traffic in D.C. while you still can. And thanks for everything you do. Thank you.

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You must be 21 years old or older to order some exclusions, apply. I talked about it a little bit with Senator Paul. Even CNN has to admit this shutdown is not working for Democrats. starting with Republicans. How has the shutdown seem to have affected their political standing? Yeah, you might think, given that the Republicans are in charge of both the House and the Senate, that a government shutdown might actually hurt the Republican brand. But in fact, it hasn't.

If anything, it's been helped a little bit. Take a look here, the shift in net popularity versus pre-shutdown. When we're looking at the Republican Party overall, that brand actually up two points. That's within the margin of error, but clearly it hasn't dropped. Come over to this side of the screen. Look at the net approval rating. for Republicans in Congress. It's actually up five points since pre-shutdown.

So what we're seeing here is the Republican brand in Congress has actually improved somewhat compared to where we were pre-shutdown despite the fact the Republicans control. And that's the math that John Thune and Mike Johnson are looking at is, hey, why should we give an electorally speaking when our brand has actually improved a little bit? This is not even just with the Republican base. Because you can say, okay, well, the reason why the popularity has gone up over all three points is because, you know, the Republican base just really, really loves this. So even if the Democrats and independents hate it, you know, it just balances out and actually

adds a few points anyway. No, they're up eight points even with independence. And the reason for this is Democrats thought that this was all politics as usual and nothing's changed in the last five or ten years. And so the Republicans are always going to be blamed for a shutdown, even if it's the Democrats who shut it down. And I guess the point, and we'll really get to this with J.D. Vance and Erica Kirk at Ole Miss last night.

The point is no, politics has changed radically, seismically. And Democrats are playing the old songbook. It's not working anymore. Doesn't work on the audience. So Democrats shut the government down because nothing was working for them and they were on the wrong side of virtually every 80-20 issue. They thought they had a chance to push this on health care using a tactic that always worked for them, that always redounded to the detriment of Republicans. And none of that worked. none of that worked.

And now you're seeing, Senator Paul thinks it'll be within a week, you're seeing the Democrats even have to backtrack on that. In other words, we are in uncharted waters. Now, the CNN pollster, I don't know, I've got to start watching CNN.

When they talk about the polls, the hard data that are a little more difficult to manipulate than the opinion programming, all the news is great for Republicans, including something we talked about yesterday. I said yesterday that Bill Gates has come out. He's one of the greatest climate alarmists in the country, in the world. And he's come out and said, actually, climate change isn't going to kill us all. And I said, don't be fooled. This is not Bill Gates having some change of heart that, you know, just he followed the science and the science let him on. This is a realization that climate change as a political issue is not working anymore because they promised the apocalypse. The apocalypse didn't come. Now they have to recalibrate. They're following political metrics, not scientific metric. CNN backing that up because right now when you hear the Democrats tune changing on climate change,

it's going to be following public opinion. A lot of people will agree with Bill Gates that maybe this wouldn't be the end of humanity. And I think, you know, we've been talking about climate change now for decades upon decades upon decades. And the worry in terms of climate change, simply put, hasn't shifted. It has not reached the majority of Americans. What are we talking about? Greatly worried about climate change. You go all the way back to 1989, it was 35%.

2,040%, 20, 46%. And in 2025, look at that. It's 40%. The same number as we had 25 years ago back in 2000. And then only just five points higher than we had back in 1989. Really, we've just seen consistency on this issue. The bottom line is that the climate change message that folks who, of course, believe that climate change is real and is quite worrisome, simply put, has not really worked

with the American people. So greatly worried. You say greatly worried. I mean, so people say they're greatly worried 40%. But how worried, really? Is it the biggest thing they're worried about? Yeah, it is not anywhere close to being the biggest thing that people are worried about. What are we talking about here? Well, why don't we just talk about top issue facing the U.S. climate change? Well, I got some numbers for you on the screen right here. These two guys are great. It almost is like an onion or a Babylon Beesgedge. Well, things look really, really terrible for Democrats. But how turn? They're totally freaking terrible, man. It just couldn't possibly be any worse. That's good. And why? Why? Because it used to be the case. Back in the heyday of wokeism, you had 3% of people say, oh, climate change is really a top priority. And now it's down to 2%. But you saw those numbers remain pretty stable, going back to 1989. And the libs have been pushing the climate change stuff since the 70s.

The numbers don't really change. They got up in the 2000s. That was kind of, a peak climate change hysteria. And then it just dropped back down again. And it's always 35 to 45% somewhere in there. At the one place I would disagree with those CNN pollsters, though, is they say, clearly the climate change messaging hasn't worked. And I don't think that's fair to say, because you did have the numbers increase into the 2000s and 20 teens. I remember it. I was there. I remember when people sincerely believed that the Sun Monster was going to kill us all. I remember when people would not have children. They would decide not to have children

because they didn't want to bring them into a world of climate apocalypse. I remember when Greta Thunberg dropped out of school to sail a boat around the ocean because she thought that was going to forestall the sun monster. It was a kind of inverse rain dance or something. I remember that. I was there. The messaging did work.

It stopped working because the climate apocalypse never materialized. It was not a retortable. rhetorical problem. It was not a communications problem. It was a fact problem. It was a science problem. The thing they said wasn't true. So don't let them get away with this. Don't let them say, we just need to find better ways to message around climate change. No, no, no. You lied. In some cases, you were honestly mistaken, I guess. Some of you were just dupes. But in some cases, you lied because climate change was always primarily a political issue, not some kind of scientific issue. issue. And one of the pieces of evidence for that is that it was always so perfectly calculated that disaster was just on the horizon. You could see it. You could get worried. You could be manipulated. It wasn't too far into the future that you put it off for another day. And it generally

wasn't so close that there was nothing to do and we could just live it up. It was always perfectly politically calibrated. You're in the midst of a political recalibration. It's not because the Democrats just need to figure out a better way to get their message out there. It's that people don't want what they're selling. I sold my car on Carvana last night. Well, that's cool. No, you don't understand. It went perfectly.

Real offer, down to the penny. They're picking it up tomorrow. Nothing went wrong. So what's the problem? That is the problem. Nothing in my life goes to smoothie. I'm waiting for the catch. Maybe there's no catch.

That's exactly what a catch would want me to think. Wow, you need to relax. I need a knock on wood. Do we have wood? Is this tablewood? I think it's land. minute. Okay, yeah, that's good. That's close enough. Car selling without a catch. So your car today on Carvana. Pick up these may apply. Now you're seeing a shift on the right as well. This was just magnificently

embodied last night by J.D. Vance and Erica Kirk at the turning point stop in Ole Miss. Really, really pleased to see the vice president joining Charlie's widow here because I think J.D. Vance is probably the one figure on the right with the stature and the temperament and the platform to really keep this whole coalition together which was something that Charlie singularly was able to do

and so I'm really pleased to see him taking time out of his busy schedule to do this. He also did the Q&A at these kinds of events you go, you give a speech or you have a conversation. Charlie and I was supposed to be 12 days after he was murdered.

We were going to do a little conversation at a campus, you know, back and forth. But then, of course, the key to these events is the Q&A. And for someone like Charlie, you know, a civil debater and an activist, for a communicator to go out there and do the Q&A is one thing. For the sitting vice president to just open himself up to anybody, come with any of your questions, any of your comments, any of your complaints is politically a very courageous thing to do. he did not disappoint in his answers right off the top very fitting for the occasion and for our moment in history he was asked about god in the public square do not you do not have to completely kick god out of the public square which is what we've done in modern america it's not what the founders wanted it's not good for the united states of america and anybody who tells you

it's required by the constitution is lying to you 100% correct. J.D. Vance is a graduate of what I think is still considered the most prestigious law school in the country, even though it produces a lot of crazy people. His whole answer was even better. We don't have time to get to it. But he explained how when the First Amendment was ratified, it does not establish a firm separation of church and state. It says that there will be no religious establishment at the federal level because there were state establishments. There were churches established at the state level. I mean, this is the kind of stuff that serious conservatives avant-garde conservatives and so more classical conservatives. Those seem like opposites, but they actually

kind of go together because everything that was old is new again. We've been talking about this stuff for years. We have basically never seen this articulated by a national politician at the level of a J.D. Vance, and he articulates it perfectly. Okay, this is really, really exciting stuff. And he doesn't just stop with Christianity there. He makes a point about liberalism that is so precise. and so necessary for understanding how to combat it. I'm thrilled to hear you articulate Christian values on a stage like this, and to remind us that things we take for granted and things we value so much have a Christian origin. So thank you for that. I really mean that. However...

So much of liberalism, by the way, so much of the far left is a sort of, if you really pay attention to it, it's a kind of perverted version of Christianity. Like there's nothing wrong, of course. with focusing on people who are disenfranchised, for example. That's the focus of liberalism. But if you completely separate it from any religious duty, any civic virtue, then that can actually become, for example, an inducement to lawlessness. Yes, yes. Thank you. Thank you. Love it. When was the last time you heard a national politician at this level speaking in this way? in a way that, by the way, is very gracious to the left. Because what J.D. is saying here is not just, those liberals are crazy, aren't they?

Or those liberals are dumb. And we all want the same ends, but we have different ways of getting there or something. Or, look at the wacky left. No. He's saying the left is seeking a kind of a good. It's just that the good is perverse because it's this kind of er version of the true religion. it's actually tracing the genealogy of liberalism. He's saying it comes from Christendom. And in that way, he's tracing the genealogy of our civilization. It says, our civilization is Christendom, okay? And the true faith is Christianity.

And the moral order derives from the Christian religion because it's all true. And then liberalism deviates from that. And that's true. I mean, just as a matter of history, the Enlightenment Project was a way to preserve Christendom. It was supposed to be a way to preserve. Christendom without all that pesky Christianity, to establish a moral order without necessarily having any firm convictions. And it's because the Enlightenment Project follows the wars of religion that occurred after the 16th century. And it just tried to create this secular,

rational basis for things that didn't work. And J.D. is saying that. He's just saying, look, the liberal ideology, as well as its descendant ideologies, like communes, or fascism or all these things, they're just perversions of the truth because they go wrong in the first principles. And so people might earnestly be seeking the good with these ideologies. It's just not going to work because they get in the first things wrong. That is so accurate. It actually advances the conversation. It moves the ball down the field and it regrounds our civilization where it has to be. And the only thing that really works, which is the truth at all levels, not just economic and social and cultural, but even religious.

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Also, what is your plan for a merit-based system? Yes, sir. Well, I appreciate the question. And look, my honest view is that right now, America, thanks in part to the Biden border invasion, but also thanks in part to a lot of bad immigration policy, right now we have led in too many immigrants into the United States of America. That is just a fundamental reality.

Now, look, legal immigration is complicated because we let in about a million legal immigrants into the United States of America every single year. And I think the evidence is pretty clear that a lot of those immigrants are actually undercutting the wages of American workers. For most of my life, there have been two positions you're going to have on immigration. The Democrat position, especially recently, was legal immigration is good and illegal immigration is good, too. the Republican position has been legal immigration is good, illegal immigration is bad. What J.D. Vance is saying here is, you know, we've just taken in too many immigrants. The movement of people into the United States over the last 60 years is the largest movement of people in recorded history, and it's creating social problems and their problems of assimilation and

social solidarity is breaking down, their economic problems, problems to workers. And so we just, we have too many right now. This is, I say it's an upending of GDP orthodoxy. It's really, really a return to classical conservative orthodoxy, not just conservative in the American context, conservative going all the way back to Aristotle. Yeah, you can't just flood your country with foreigners. That's going to create problems. And even the way J.D. is talking about it, he doesn't say, immigration is always terrible. We need to completely close the border and we need to isolators. He's not saying that. He's saying, yeah, right now we've just taken in too many, which means he recognizes prudence as the paramount political virtue. He's recognizing that at some

periods, you might call for some immigration. At other periods, you're going to want to restrict immigration. And he's calling for a reduction in immigration overall, not just illegal, but legal to. This is precisely my position. This is precisely the correct position. I think this is certainly where Gen Z conservatives are. I think this is where the GOP base is and has been for a very long time, even though the politicians haven't reflected it. Brilliant answer from JD. I'll just get to one or two more. I'll keep them pretty quick. Here is an answer on the question of values. How are we supposed to think about values in America?

That to me, I want this answer to be condensed into a liquid form and injected straight into my veins. I actually, I think the premise of your question, I don't totally share it because I don't think perfect neutrality is possible. What is it? You talk about history. Was Christopher Columbus a great explorer? Or was he a guy who committed genocide against the native populations? These debates, I'm happy to have them, but I reject the idea that there are truly neutral debates. Anybody who's telling you their view is neutral likely has an agenda to sell you,

and I'm at least honest about the fact that I think the Christian foundation of this country is a good thing. Straight into my veins. This is it. This is abolished term limits. Thank you. Thank you. It's obviously true. serious political thinkers have known this since time in memorial, but there is a lie that goes

along with liberalism that says that liberalism is neutral. It's just neutral. That says that, for instance, secularism in public is just neutral. This view would have been abhorrent to our founding fathers, the framers of our constitution, even the early liberals like John Locke and John Milton, but liberalism pretends anyway. And in some ways, this is a concept. of liberal political philosophy, but they say, oh, it's just neutral. Look, I don't have a partisan view. I don't have invective. I don't have a polemical view. No, no, no. I'm just, my view is the neutral view, but there is no neutral view because all views come from some premises, axioms, first principles. And what the liberals try to do with

their neutral nonsense is they try to smuggle in their false premises. Their false premise that, for instance, we can't know the difference between a man and a woman. I mean, that's what they say, look, our view on transgender, ours is the neutral view. We're not, we're not picking sides. Well, you are, by not allowing people to believe what humans have always believed everywhere and what their own eyes tell them about the difference between a man and a woman, that is not neutral. You're forcing a certain view on, by forcing Christianity of the public square, by arresting pro-lifers, praying in an abortion clinic, by persecuting nuns. By persecuting nuns. as the Obama-Biden administration did.

But these are not neutral things. By exalting all sorts of perverse ideology, that's not neutral. And J.D. says, look, here are my premises. Here's where I'm coming from. I'm basically coming from the same place that the wise statesmen in our civilization have always come from. But yeah, I think there's a Christian religious foundation. Those other guys, they're not going to tell you where they're coming from. They pretend it's neutral, but where they're coming from is much more dubious.

Okay, last bit on how we fight the left. Okay. So, so here's, here's something that I want conservatives. I want every conservative to remember. It's an important part of my entire political philosophy is we cannot be afraid to do something because the left might do it in the future. The left is already going to do it regardless of whether we do it. There it is. There it is. The takeover is complete of the GOP by the conservatives from the squishes. I love this because for years and I find it nauseating. The squishes have said, well, we can't. We can't wield political power because if we wield political power, can you imagine in the future when the Democrats get the power back, what they want to use power on us? This after the Democrats have justified the murder of our president,

have tried to imprison him four times, kick him off the ballot, imprisoned relatively peaceful protesters, infiltrated Catholic churches under the Biden DOJ, let their violent criminals off the hook, in some cases encouraged political violence against us, this after this, and we say, but we can't justly wield the law

because then the Democrats in the future might unjustly wield the law, which they're already doing. Vance saying, we've got to have courage and we've got to be able to do things and not just be cowards and squishes and exalt procedural. norms, dubious procedural norms at that over substantive goods. Not going to do it anymore. This is really good stuff. As you know, I'm an admirer of the

vice president. He's impressed me before, never more so than last night at Ole Miss. And he did it, you know, to honor his very close friend, Charlie, on stage with Charlie's widow at this major event for the preeminent young conservative organization in American politics. It's just it's just real encouraging. I guess that's how I would have to put it. It's just real, real encouraging. This is a guy who knows what time it is, and he's actually has the position and the stature

to do something about it. Great stuff. Now, meanwhile, the left, which has just tried to tell me on Capitol Hill that they don't support political violence, they don't condone any of that. A left-wing podcaster has gone viral for her hideous comments,

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Step into the fight and help us keep delivering this type of crucial content to the world. My favorite comment yesterday is from Maggi's 10. This refers to Zoranamadani's aunt gate. Remember he said his aunt, you know, after 9-11, was the real victim because she felt nervous wearing hijab on the subway. And it found out that actually she didn't wear a hijab and she didn't live in New York. And he said, oh, no, it's actually my dad's cousin, my aunt, you know. Well, anyway, this comment says, maybe his cousin really is his aunt.

You aren't accounting for intermarriage. That's a good point. certain cultures have very, very high rates of cousin marriage. That's true. It's true. Certain cultures do. Not our culture, but other cultures do. You're seeing 30%, 40%, maybe higher.

So anyway, I don't know. Maybe Zohran can clarify. Okay. After Charlie was murdered, the left minimized, excused, and in some cases celebrated at all levels. at all levels, from the fringe people to the mainstream people, from the normies to the famous people, at all levels. You saw this. And then they tried to deny it. And we saw this on Capitol Hill because there was this Senate hearing on political violence that half the Democrats didn't even show up to, and the ones who did show up shed crocodile tears. And they said, we all condemn

political violence. We would never encourage this sort of thing. As they say this, a left-wing podcaster Jennifer Welch goes viral for saying this. Horrible. Charlie Kirk is horrible? Yes, I'm glad he's not here. You're glad he's dead? Yes. Why would you say something like that, ma'am?

He was horrible on the campuses, the college campuses. You know what? I do the exact same thing. Would you be glad if I would die? Maybe. I'd have to think about it. And she laughs. Jennifer will laughs.

She laughed. Her friend just said she'd be happy if I died. I think I need. So listen up, Democratic establishment. You can either jump on board with this or we're coming after you in the same way that we come after MAGA. That woman out in somewhere middle America saying Charlie Kirk, he was a racist, he was a piece of shit. There are so many more of us than there are of them. I'm inclined to believer.

I'm inclined to believer because of what I saw from, the prominent streamers, from what I saw from the legacy news outlets, from what I saw, as Charlie was being killed, you had a Democrat analyst on MSNBC blaming him for it. To say nothing of the normies on Facebook, I think this is right. I think there are a lot more people in left-wing activism who were minimizing and celebrating Charlie's murder than there were people condemning political violence. And lest I'd be accused of pointing to some random woman, because I didn't know really who that woman was, Jennifer Welch. Oh, you're just picking some random kook. She doesn't know anything. She just

seeking attention. She's just going viral for, well, here's a little clip of Jennifer Welch sitting down with the Democratic leader from the House of Representatives, Hakeem Jeffries. Tell your coworkers to come on too. We've had a lot of them on and we really like them as well. We'll do. Thank you for what you both do. Really appreciate it. Look forward to staying in close touch. And we're in this fight until we win this fight and end this national nightmare and get America back on track. Yeah, thank you. Thank you for what you both do. I, the most prominent Democrat in the country, just about, I would like to thank you. Oh, that's so nice of you, Hakeem, because we've had a bunch of your colleagues on, too. Yeah. It's not a minor figure. Relative to Hakeem Jeffries,

maybe, but this is a real person who really represents a lot of Democrats, as we've seen from survey after survey, as we've seen from the comments of the Democrats after Charlie's murder, as we saw two days ago on Capitol Hill when the Democrats, by and large, boycotted a Senate hearing on political violence. That's it. And so what are we supposed to do? We're supposed to sit back and be afraid of wielding political power in a just way, because by golly, the Democrats, that we might make the Democrats angry. They're angry. They don't like us. So there are two things we can do. We can either lash out in a vigilante sort of way, which I would strongly discourage because it's intrinsically unjust, or we can get rid of one of the old

slogans of the right, which is that, you know, government can't really do anything in politics is always downstream of culture. We can recognize some ancient classical conservative wisdom that the law is a teacher, and we can wield the law in a just way, not only to protect innocent people, but also to help educate these leftists who are engaged in behaviors that are disordered for society contrary to the common good, but also bad for them individually. I don't think these are happy people, the ones who are out shrieking and screaming and calling for the murder of their countrymen. I don't think they're happy people. We have not only the right to wield the law in a way that helps to protect us and innocent people and America, we have the

responsibility to wield the law in such a way that helps to educate these people and pulls them back from the brink of madness or past the brink of madness, which is where they are. We need a little more uniformity in America, I think. I know the left always prattles on about diversity. Diversity is our strength. But even the left and Americans. Wow, that was a Freudian slip. A lot of truth in that, I think.

But even on the right, even on the right, you'll have people exalt diversity of thought on college campuses, for instance, as a good in itself. diversity of thought is not a good in itself. We like it as a particular kind of good on a college campus because it's uniformly left wing. So diversity of thought is good in as much as it introduces more conservative thought on campus. But diversity of thought is not a good in and of itself. You have on the left and the right this exaltation of diversity is some kind of great strength. Pete Hankseth, Secretary of War, shows up, speaks to some of our soldiers and explains the reality.

previous administration, iterations of administrations, there was a phrase, it's the dumbest phrase in military history. And that phrase is, our diversity is our strength. You see, I look out at this crowd and I see a lot of diverse faces. A lot of faces, black, brown, white, and otherwise. From small towns, from big cities, rich, war, I don't know you and you don't know me. but I don't look at you and see who you are based on the color of your skin I look at you as a fellow American

who bleeds red Our strength is not our diversity Our strength is our common purpose Our strength is our unity Our strength is our mission Our strength is our oath to the Constitution That we will defend each other That's our strength

That's what the world sees That's what I saw inside my platoon That's what I see across this Beautiful ship. Okay, this is a great moment in the evolution of American conservatism, I think. Because, notice, what is Pete saying here? What Pete's saying is extremely moderate, extremely moderate. Pete is embracing colorblind meritocracy.

I'm sure the left is going to try to call it racist and whatever, but it's completely the opposite. This is as moderate as it gets in any reasonable amount of thinking. he's saying as a matter of principle diversity does not conduce to strength uniformity does think about like a chain

or so you know think about any any kind of construction you want uniformity not just like random stuff hodgepodge together so he says in principle uniformity not diversity is our strength and and we have a colorblind meritocracy in the military and what is your strength is not your

race or whatever it's your it's your common purpose as Americans it's embracing a kind of civic nationalism, this is very, very moderate. And it's viewed as a major shift. Because it is, because we have heard this Diversity's Our Strength stuff for over 30 years. And it was actually a Republican who coined that phrase. I think it was Dan Quayle when he was vice president to George H.W. Bush coined that phrase, diversity is our strength during a press gaggle in Japan. Okay, so you can't even just blame the left for it. It was the right too. And it was always totally preposterous. it's led to a total breakdown in social solidarity.

And now you have Mr. Mainstream. I mean, this is why I think it's so important that it's Pete Hegsett saying this and that he's saying this in such a moderate way. Pete is a Fox News host, okay, morning host. This is not a fringe figure or a radical figure in any way whatsoever. And he's coming out and saying diversity is our strength. That is totally nuts. We're done with that.

Something has shifted. There has been a major change in American politics. The Democrats clearly have not caught up with that. They haven't paid attention. That's why they lost the popular vote for the first time in 20 years in November. That's why they're losing the shutdown fight for the first time in my lifetime, maybe the first time ever. They haven't figured out that shift has happened.

J.D. Vance is, I think, a little bit more on the bleeding edge of that, as he showed last night at Ole Miss. But you're seeing it everywhere. You're seeing it everywhere. And the way Pete put it, no one would, no serious person would. dispute that. That's an 80-20 issue right there. That's yet another 80-20 issue that this administration is on the right side of. Now, speaking of diversity, clip going viral. This one really, as we hear all the fear-mongering about the end of the SNAP program and the ongoing shutdown, here's one of the

people who's really upset about problems with the SNAP program. This is an Iraqi refugee whining because the government's taken away as cheese. Without the government support, I cannot stay maybe month or two months. Pima County Chairman Rex Scott told News for Tucson he's deeply concerned about the impact on local refugees. Really, really concerned. How can he stay if he doesn't get, if you don't pay for his food? Now remember, we're talking about shifts to the Republican, you know, co-eastern, you know,

coalition and political vision. For a long time, it was this hardcore libertarian, exalting the free market, Einrand kind of vision that was very opposed in principle even to welfare programs. I think that's deader than disco, and that's certainly not my view. My view is more infused with classical conservative concepts, Catholic social teaching. I have no problem in principle with a social welfare system. The way our market is set up, there will always be some degree of unemployment. So actually, just as a pure matter of justice, you need to have some kind of unemployment insurance, and we have a responsibility to take care of the poor, and we live in society. Man is inclined to live in an order in society. That's one of the primary precepts of the natural law.

There are all sorts of reasons that in principle, it's good to take care of the poor. Oppression of the poor is one of the sins that cries out to God. Now, there are questions about how best to do that, you know, what's most efficient and what actually seems like it's helping people, might hurt people. But I think we would all say someone's severely disabled and elderly and mentally handicapped and has all. Probably they should be entitled to some kind of social program, right? Maybe so long as it doesn't crowd out the church and the family. Yeah, I agree. What about this able-bodied Iraqi who's in America for some reason? I don't know why he's here. I don't know what brought him over here. Maybe there's a good reason. Maybe it's a bad reason.

Why can't that guy get a job? Why can't that guy do any work? If he won't work, why is he here. How many other people who won't work are here who otherwise could? How much of the exploding cost of groceries is due to the fact that we pay for a lot of people's groceries and not just the people who really needed who can't fend for themselves, but for that guy, an entitled able-bodied foreigner who's in America taking your money and whining when the government is shut down and he can't get the government cheese? Wow, this shutdown is really redounding to the detriment of Democrats in multiple ways.

Shows they're on the wrong side of a ton of issues. It shows they've lost their chief tactic. And I think it's revealing a lot of the problems with the programs that are already in place, the ones that they're seeking to expand. Let's see here, but he can't stay in the country if we don't keep paying for his stuff. All right. Okay. Deal. Deal. You drive a hard. bargain, Mr. Iraqi, but okay. This episode is brought to you by Redfin.

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