The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1859 - The Epidemic Of British Women Killing Their Children

Episode Date: November 18, 2025

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British women are killing an increasing number of their children, and a new analysis shows how much liberals want to kill their countrymen. We will get into the end of civilization. Happy Tuesday. I'm Michael Knowles. It's the Michael Knowles show. Welcome back to the show. A new analysis out confirming something some of us have suspected for a long time, not just that libs hate conservatives way more than conservatives hate liberals, but that conservatives severely underestimate how dehumanized we are by liberal. Before we get to any of that, I want to tell you about Birch Gold. Text Knowles, CanadaWLAS, to 98-98-98-8-98. It is the one time of year that Birch Gold Group gives away free gold with every qualifying purchase. That's right.

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I want to spill it with all of you. The morning tea comes to us by way of Jonathan Carl, the ABC reporter, who is speaking at the 92nd Street Y. And he gives us a little bit of insight into 2028. because he gives us insight into the way J.D. Vance was selected to be Trump's running mate in the first place in 2024. All this stuff is going on, and he's still going back and forth. He had basically decided J.D. Vance, like earlier that day, when he landed in Milwaukee, I was told point blank that it was like 80, 90 percent Marco Rubio. So you had this push and pool. you had Rupert Murdoch, Lindsay Graham, and a whole group of Republicans allied with them pushing to say, you know, J.D. doesn't have the experience. Marco is perfect for you.

Marco can help you more electorally. J.D. doesn't win over any new voters for you. On the other side, you had Donald Trump Jr., Tucker Carlson, Elon Musk, all making the case for J.D. Vance. And I actually called Tucker Carlson to ask about this. It had been reported by the New York Times that one of the arguments that Tucker Carlson had made was that if you pick somebody like Marco Rubio that the establishment likes, they're going to assassinate you. He made this case before Butler. They're going to kill you so this guy becomes president. How's that for tea? Do you like milk in your morning? I have mine black, actually.

really important tidbit because it tells us about 2028. I totally believe this. I don't always believe the establishment media, but I totally believe this play. There was a move to push a candidate like Rubio, and I think Rubio is great too, but Rubio more acceptable to the establishment of the Republican Party. And then there was a separate move being pushed by Don Jr. and Elon and Tucker to say, no, no, no, go for J.D. Vance. He's more with the base. He's more where the Republican Party is going. He does, I think, win over some voters you don't necessarily get because he's from Middle America, because he wrote Hillbilly Ellogy, because he's got this amazing story where he came from nothing very broken home to the heights of success, but he doesn't forget where he came

from. And according to Jonathan Carl, I haven't talked to Tucker about this, but according to the reporting, Tucker says, you got to pick someone more like JD, who the establishment hates because if you pick someone the establishment likes, they'll assassinate you. And this is going to be shocking to a lot of people. And they're going to say, that's hysterical and that's, you know, just fearmongering. However, let's not forget that there were two occasions when people came pretty close to assassinating Trump last year. One occasion where by all rights, the assassin should have succeeded and only failed because implausibly at the last minute Trump turned his head a little bit. And so the bullet only grazed his ear would have blown out the back of his skull otherwise.

And what we know for certain is that Trump picked J.D. Vance. And this kind of calculation is going to be really jarring to people who think back on the last, I don't know, 80 years of American politics and say, we've had relative peace. Yeah, there was a Cold War, but we won the Cold War. Then there was the post-Cold War hegemony, that wonderful Halcyon period where we ruled the world basically unchallenged. and we're the cock of the walk, right? What we are seeing in this calculation, if it is in fact the case that Trump picked J.D. Vance in part to protect himself from being assassinated,

is not some great aberration from politics. What we are seeing is a return to a more traditional kind of political calculation. Throughout the ages, kings have had servants taste their food before they ate because they knew that the threats against them were so high. We've had many American presidents assassinated. You think of, I don't know, Lincoln, McKinley. The list goes on and on of successful assassination attempts, and then there are unsuccessful assassination attempts.

Teddy Roosevelt, after he was president. Ronald Reagan, while he was president. Jerry Ford, while he was president. Kennedy was successfully assassinated. Donald Trump, while he was about to become president, after he was president. This is a return. to traditional politics. And as the political order in the United States and elsewhere continues to fray, you should expect more of a return to this traditional kind of politics. You should expect more of

these kind of maneuvers. This is a return to the norm. You're seeing this broadly in our politics. A lot of what is called the new right, a lot of the avant-garde in the Republican Party that J.D. Vance has said to represent is in many ways a return, not just to what the Republican Party used to be, but a return to what politics normally is, what politics is under normal conditions. A lot of what is called the new right is a return from the kind of abstract procedural norms that have dominated politics to a greater focus on the substantive goods. Trump running in 2016. He was asked, why are you running? He said, because I want to give you good neighborhoods.

All the abstract ideologues freaked out. They said, that's not your job. Your job is to maintain this abstract liberal order and to tick up, gee, in this way that is actually somewhat intangible and divorced from substantive goods. And Trump says, no, I want you to have good neighborhoods and I want the criminals off the streets. And I want the illegal Venezuelans to stop pouring in. And I want a good country. That's it.

And I think it shows you how important J.D. Vance is as an individual, but also as a representative of something to Trump's second term. Trump's second term, because it's non-consecutive, being a little different than other presidential administrations, because Trump, in picking vans, was choosing a successor even before his second term had begun, which is why there probably will be a Republican primary in 28. A lot of people want to be president. There probably will be something resembling a primary, but it's different. This is different than the end of George W. Bush, the different, the end of George H.W. Bush, at the end of Ronald Reagan even.

There was a primary at the end of Reagan, even though George H.W. Bush was elected as Reagan's third term. You still had Buchanan running. It was still a lively contest. Ronald Reagan actually didn't weigh in in that primary until closer to the end. Here, I think you're seeing something closer. And so it's why it's no surprise that Trump has effectively already endorsed a ticket of J.D. Vance and Marco Rubio.

Now, speaking of the political order fraying and speaking of murder, horrifying statistics coming out of the UK. This just reported on by Philip Pocenson, actually, great, great economist, shows that the number of abortions in the UK is skyrocketing. And what's really weird about this is that conceptions are remaining basically the same. So you've got abortions going through the roof and conceptions staying just about the same. Why is that? People are offering all of these explanations. Well, it's because of COVID because people just weren't shacking up as much.

They weren't conceiving as many babies in 2020, 2020, 2021, 2022. That's not really the case. It's just that a greater portion of British babies who are conceived are being killed before they're born. And this would appear to be tied to a massive hike in energy prices around 2022, a massive hike in inflation over there, also in 2020. inflation in 2022 hit the highest level in 41 years. And it's leading to a kind of death spiral because people are not really focusing on this. The immigration problem in the UK is like the immigration problem throughout all of Europe,

which is the same thing as the immigration problem in America. It is being driven primarily by abortion. The argument for mass migration beyond the moralistic arguments, oh, these poor people, you know, they want to come here for a better life. That's why you always wanted to come to the West for a better life. Why do we tolerate it now? Because they say we're not having enough kids. And we need to prop our economies up.

And the only way to prop our economies up, which we have to do to prop up the welfare states that we all have to varying degrees, you especially see that in the UK, the only way to do it is to import more foreigners. But as you import more foreigners, the social order continues to fray. And that creates some economic problems. That contributes to inflation.

that leads people to think that they don't have the material resources to have children. So either they don't conceive, that's like the best case scenario of those two choices, or they kill their kids. They conceive and they continue to kill their kids. It represents a civilizational suicide, which then leads to more migration, which exacerbates the problems. That's focusing on the material causes. If you focus on the deeper causes, though, the real reason that people are not having kids is a decline in religion. That's it.

People have tried to examine the birth rate crisis, which we've had in our own country for over 50 years now since 1971, and they try to examine it from all these sorts of reasons, all these different angles. Is it ideological? Is it material? Is it something in the water? Is there something turning the frogs gay?

What is it? The most reliable predictor of whether or not people will have children and not kill them before they're born is religiosity. The religious people have kids. The irreligious people do not. This ties into the immigration problem too. Because when you import a ton of people, in the case of the UK, a ton of people with a different religion, you further erode the religion of the country. So much so that the king of England, who is supposed to be the head of the church of England, which at least in name continues to exist, he changed one of his kingly titles. He used to be Defensor Fide, Defender of the Faith. King Charles has now changed

it to Defender of Faiths, which leads to a kind of religious indifference, which tells you that religion doesn't really matter. You know, it might help you as a kind of personal preference. It might make you feel good, but it doesn't really mean anything. There's no truth to it. All religions are basically the same, which is to say all religions are equally untrue. That furthers this problem. It compounds it. It leads to a civilizational death spiral. What we are seeing in the United Kingdom is a national suicide. Abortion, more than any other action, more than any other issue, represents killing a nation's future. Because you are literally killing the nation's future, because the nation's future

literally is the next generation. And when you refuse to conceive the next generation, or even more gruesomely, when you do conceive the next generation and then kill it off through an intentional action, you are killing your own country, which means that this is an existential crisis. And when I say this, I don't just mean the material problems that are compounded by immigration that then sometimes lead to more abortion, which then leads to more immigration, which then leads to more material problems. And that's, yes, we need to try to fix all of that by curtailing migration, not just illegal immigration, but total immigration. And yes, we need to try to get people to have more kids, maybe through some government incentives.

But what's at the heart of the problem? What is at the heart of the problem is the decline of religiosity. That is the reliable predictor of having more kids, which fixes all of the other problems, which means, and this brings us right back to the new right, the shift from procedural norms to substantive goods in our focus, what is meant by the avant-garde of the conservatives and of the right? it means that religion is an existential public political problem. We need more religion. We need more people actively practicing religion. The truer the religion, the better. But let's at least start with religion in principle.

That is an existential political problem. I'll put it in the bluntest terms possible. The government needs to promote religion and suppress atheism, and suppress secularism and suppress religious indifferenceism. It has to do that as an existential matter. If it does not do that, the UK will die, Europe then will die, and eventually the United States will die. We'll literally die.

There won't be any more kids. And there will be some kind of zombie corpse of a country still walking around, but it will be filled with entirely different people who believe entirely different things, who have an entirely different civilization. And this is the message. If you said, Michael, you get to sit down with the president of the United States. Michael, you get to sit down with the prime minister of the UK or the king of England or whatever. And you get to impress upon them one point.

This is the point I would impress about them. Impress upon them. The promotion of religion has become an existential need. It should be top of the list. All of the other problems flow down from the decline of religion. And the big obstacle to the promotion of religion is, liberalism, which says that we can't ever really know anything about religion. And, you know, it's kind of like, you know, judgy and authoritative. It's a kind of authoritarian and it's kind of,

what are you? We can't really promote that and that might infringe upon the individual autonomy or blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Liberalism, which says we need to push religion out of public life. Maybe we'll tolerate it in private life. Can't do that. Can't do that. Look at the UK as your crystal ball. That is where your country is headed. You, Americans, you, you, Europeans, you people around the world, deal with that problem or don't and let your country die. But don't say you weren't warned. You were warned. Now on immigration, a great, great statement and a good sign about where the Republican Party is headed coming out of Florida. We'll get to that momentarily. First, I want to tell you about Bowling Branch. Go to bolinbranch.com slash knolls.

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But you know, you have some strain on the right. This is, I don't know, you know, illegal immigration is bad. Legal immigration no matter what is good. And wait a minute. Now, I'm not saying any of it's that it's all bad or what, but is bringing 10 million people from like Somalia and dumping them into Georgia, is that good because it's legal? I think you have to think critically about what are we doing with an immigration policy, and is it benefiting the American people?

Is it helping to promote a strong American culture? We should never bring people into this country who hate America. 100% love this, perfectly said. The problem is not just illegal immigration because it's illegal, you know, illegal, bad, legal good. the question is, is immigration, mass migration, good for America today, or bad for America? I think any honest look at it has to say, on the whole, mass migration, especially from these countries that are very different from the United States, where the people form ethnic and religious enclaves, that shreds social solidarity, where people don't even speak English, where they don't believe what we believe, where they don't practice the habits that our country has cultivated, that that's bad. this is what is meant by the shift from merely procedural norms to substantive goods because you come out on the new right and you say hey I think all this migration is bad whether

it's technically legal or illegal and you get the abstract ideologues who say no but you don't understand there's a poem under the Statue of liberty written by some communist that says that the poor huddled masses have to come to America you say all right well I don't remember like Alexander Hamilton writing that I don't remember reading that in the constitution of the federalist papers You know, it's fine that some like socialist wrote a poem 100 years ago. But is it good or bad for us? No, no, you don't understand. Diversity is our strength.

And America is a country of immigrants. Okay, well, neither of those things are true. And they're just slogans that cropped up in the last few decades. So is it good or bad for America? No, no, you don't understand. Actually, we're living in a globalized world where we're all interchangeable automaton's and trade is the only good thing. And we need to just be all be citizens of the world.

Kumbaya. Hold on. Let's get back to brass tax. Is it good or bad? This is the return from the abstractions and models of liberalism to a classical conception of politics, which says that politics is for something. Liberalism says that politics is for protecting the individual autonomy of people from the predations of the government. That's on the left and the right.

That's what they think politics is for. But that's not what politics is for. politics most basically is how we all live together in community and the purpose of politics is to advance the common good the common good not being the aggregate of private goods you know like i like cigars and johnny likes crystal math and so the common good is protecting cigars and crystal math no that's not what the common good is the common good is that good which is shared by all which is not diminished when individuals participate in it. It's just the good of the common, and we do have something in common, namely, we're all part of the same country. That's what it is. And therefore, law is not just what some

legislator writes down through the sheer tyranny of his will, whatever he thinks, that must be acceptable and promoted by the sheer fact of the procedure by which the law was passed. No. The law is an ordinance of reason for the common good by him who has care of the community and promulgated. That's it. That's the big shift. And that's at the heart of a lot of the fissures that you're seeing right now in the Republican Party and on the right as the GOP tries to figure out what it's going to do after Trump. Are we going to return to the old sterile liberalism that has led to the literal deaths or near deaths of our countries? Look at the UK. Or are we going to get back to basics and get to a more classical conception of government and a more classical conception of politics

and more Christian conception of politics and say, no, it's actually about doing good stuff and opposing bad stuff. That's it. Really smart, really smart shift here from DeSantis. I think you're seeing this echoed at the national level as well. This is not coming out of nowhere. I remember there was a great debate in the 90s on Bill Buckley's firing line show, where Bill Buckley, who these days is sometimes much maligned as being a defender of managed decline and liberalism, whatever, Bill Buckley was on the side of the debate that said, we need to drastically reduce all migration. And it was more liberal, you know, centrist, even center left types who were saying, no, no, we need more migration. Diversity is our strength. We're a nation of immigrants, blah, blah, blah.

And so you have people today who call themselves conservatives who are really just conserving the liberalism of 20 years ago. That's not going to cut it. Because the liberalism of 20 years ago led to the decline that we're seeing today. We need something different. We need to get back to what is good for the country. That involves clarity. And then we need to get back to the courage to actually advance that good, even as they call us authoritarian or whatever, which is totally ridiculous. Okay, speaking of immigrants, the pro-immigration side in America is getting hoisted with its own poutard.

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apply. Speaking of immigrants, I love this story out of the New York Times. I love this so much. Story out of the Times. For some women, the American dream is in Mexico City. Where is it? Do I have it? I don't have the printed text. Here it is. And it's this beautiful look at Mexico City. Just a little touch from the Times reporting. While Americans make up only a tiny fraction of Mexico City's foreign resident population, data shows they are driving a tourism boom, with more women than men visiting this year, and some women have made it their new home, saying they have largely felt welcomed. But the influx of foreigners has angered some residents.

who say the newcomers have caused prices to soar, have caused rents to double. Does this sound familiar? The central districts of Condesa and Roma in particular have become expats strongholds, so you're getting these enclaves of people who've come from America to Mexico, with English spilling from sidewalk cafes and American-style restaurants. And the locals don't like it. The Mexicans don't like it very much, that these Americans keep coming to their country,

and they're causing housing prices to skyrocket, they're causing inflation to skyrocket, they're only hanging out with each other, they're not assimilating to the local culture, and they're not bothering to speak the native language. Gee, that must be terrible. I can't allow. I'm sure glad the New York Times did this report

on the problem of immigrants, not assimilating and irritating the locals and causing their lives to get worse and causing the prices to go off and not learning the language in in Mexico. I'm really glad. You know, I wonder if this problem is happening anywhere else in the world. Maybe we should call these hard-nosed New York Times journalists and see if they can find an extension of that story anywhere else. Because I really feel bad for the Mexicans in this case.

You know, no citizens should be expected to tolerate an endless flow of foreigners. coming into their country and screwing up their economy and fraying their social solidarity and not assimilating and speaking a different language and just totally taking over, right? Wouldn't you say? Boy, this is a great report from the New York Times. Can we extrapolate anything? Because that sounds really unpleasant. And maybe we should, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to say is an American, there's American women. Ladies, that's very disrespectful. You should not just pour into a foreign country and do that. So I'll tell you what, I am calling on the Americans who are doing this to cut it out and be more disrespectful.

And maybe the citizens of other countries should stop doing that as well. Don't you think? That's a good idea. It's amazing. It's a kind of version of the celebration parallax. Mike Anton over at Claremont. Actually, I guess he's at the White House now, but Mike Anton over at Claremont. No, I'm sorry, he's at the State Department. He made this point.

He said, you know, there's a celebration parallax where. when the left does something that they want to do, like, I don't know, flood the country with migrants, and they observe it, then that's a really good thing and everybody celebrates. But when critics of that very same policy observe the policy and they bemoan it, they lament it, that is a dangerous conspiracy theory. That is misinformation that needs to be censored and the people who spread it need to be punished. When people say it's happening and it's a good thing, that's great. That gets on the cover of the New York Times. When people say it's happening and it's a bad thing, it's a dangerous conspiracy theory. This is kind of a version of it.

The New York Times will come out and say there are no problems caused by immigrants. They don't cause inflation. They don't cause housing prices to soar. They don't fray social solidarity and everyone should love them. Not just as a personal matter of brotherly love, but as a political issue. We should just love it. We should want more of it. But when it happens in Mexico, it's really bad. It's really bad. Okay. I think it's bad. everywhere. Speaking of Latin American foreigners, you know, there's a talk right now about whether or not we're going to go to war with Venezuela. Trump is just picking off all those drug boats and libs are freaking out about it. They're really upset that less fentanyls getting into the country and from foreign terrorist organizations that are the cartels. But the fact that we have aircraft carriers and stuff off that goes to Venezuela suggests that maybe this isn't just about the drug runners.

maybe Trump is going to make good on a long-standing American threat to oust the dictator of Venezuela, who is socialist Nicholas Maduro. And I know a lot of people are hesitant for regime change. A lot of people are hesitant for America to meddling the affairs of other countries and oust leaders and all that. And I, too, tend to be more on the side of restraint in foreign policy. And then I saw this. Peace, peace, peace, peace. Adoroes' second task, peace.

Do everything for peace. As John Lennon would say. How did the John Lennon song go? What a beautiful song, the lyrics. For the young ones, look up the lyrics. It's an inspiration for all time. It's an anthem for all eras and generations left by John Lennon as a gift

to humanity. Long live John Lennon. Not only does he mention it, he starts singing it. Am I John O'Ola Bibo! And then he goes, he says, the lyrics are really good. It's not just the catchy tune,

the lyrics. The lyrics, which are a hideous, dystopian communist ditty. They say, imagine all the people. Imagine there's no heaven. Imagine there's no religion. Imagine there's nothing to live or die for. We're all just going to be soulless automaton's in some communist hellhole.

And it radicalized me. Not even the song. Nicholas Maduro singing the stupid John Lennon song, we need to bomb him. We need to bomb him good. We need to bomb. We bomb. Regime change now. Bring me Paul Wolfowitz.

Bring me the ghost of Dick Cheney. We need, I want F-16s flying over. I want B-2 bombers. I want maybe nuclear weapons. No, maybe not nuclear weapons because we want to keep the oil from Venezuela. This, that's bad. I was on the fence about Maduro, but this is bad. We cannot have the dictators of oil-rich nations in our hemisphere promoting John Lennon.

This is a bridge too far. Sorry, bomb. Now, I'm being only slightly high-profileged. rubolic and joking because there is a chance we go to war with Venezuela, that Trump goes to war with Venezuela, a Trump who ran largely as an anti-war president, but he's willing to use strength in precise ways when it counts, all the way going back to the first term. He's had the best foreign policy of anyone in my lifetime, probably even including George H.W. Bush, who was the other great foreign policy president of our lifetime, in part because he was able to wage the Iraq war without

actually going in and getting stuck in the desert and all the rest, manage the decline in the Soviet Union. Okay. What will the right think about this? The right does not want to get bogged down in more wars overseas in the Middle East. Wars that don't seem to directly affect American interests or if they do, it's only in a distant way. Wars that seem to go on forever. Wars that we end up losing when all is said and done. After 20 years, we just give Afghanistan back to the Taliban. A lot of people left wondering what was that all for in the first place. However, I do think there's something different about war in the Western Hemisphere. And I wonder if this is a little bit of a third way in foreign policy. The foreign policy, which is simplistically reduced to the interventionists on one hand and the isolationists on the other. People who want to invade every country on Earth, world police, the people who want to pretend that we're a yeoman republic and we don't have any international interests. The notion that America should just be lighting up the Middle East with bombs and creating Madisonian democracies there.

It's a very new idea in American politics. It hasn't worked very well. But the idea that we should broadly have control over Latin America goes back to the early 19th century. That has been the operating policy of the United States for the vast majority of our history. And I do wonder if this kind of pivot is a third way to avoid the pitfalls of neocon interventionism

and I think a utopian, in libertarian isolationism, which is to say, we're obviously going to be involved in international affairs, but we're going to be more directly in affairs that are closer to home, that more directly affect our interests, that return to a more classical conception of politics. If there's some lunatic communist who isn't making a ton of trouble, but he's spouting off on the other side of the world, we pay a little less attention to it. If we have some socialist singing John Lennon, who is right near our shores who's sending drugs and terrorists into our country and who has a lot of oil that we could use, that we could put to better use, then maybe we get a little more heavy-handed

closer to home. I'm not, I don't want to, I know Daily Beast is already writing the article. I'm not calling, I guess I'm literally calling to bomb Maduro, but only for the song. I'm not saying we have to go to war in Venezuela. I'm not saying we need regime change in Venezuela. I am just pointing out as a matter of the political order, this might be a third way to reconcile disparate factions of the Republican Party between the heavy interventionism and the leave us alone isolationism. This might be a third way.

Say, hey, when communists are messing around in our affairs and they have a lot of nice, tasty oil that could help bring down energy and prices and inflation and everything in America, well, maybe they better think twice before they start singing, imagine. Tomorrow night, join me, Ben Shapiro on Mount Walsh, Andrew Claven for a new live episode of Friendly Fire.

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your Mayflower Dawn bundle, always being out of stock, is anti-capitalist. Okay, first of all, I did not pick that comment. The producers picked that comment because I did not pick a comment today. And I'm sorry, I know we've had supply issues. Look, we sold out of what was supposed to be four months of cigars the day we launched just about two years ago. And then we massively ramped up production. We sold like 50,000 cigars in a day, though. And no one predicted that in the industry.

And we've had a little bit of stocking issues. Demand has outstripped supply generally, like the whole time. We have supply in right now. I think of everything or almost everything, including our new Mayflower sampler with the dream in it. But get it now. But get it now. And don't call me Nicholas Maduro because it sells out because it's a good product.

Get it. If you want it for Thanksgiving, if you want it for Christmas, especially it's a good Thanksgiving cigar. because it's Mayflower. Get it now. And then don't yell at me. I don't like being yelled at. Okay. Speaking of violence, really rough study comes out. This is via Rob Kay Henderson at the Manhattan Institute. It shows that for the first time ever, 12th grade girls are less likely than boys to say that they want to get married someday. Always, for all of history, it's the girls sitting there. They've got their cry. They have a crush on John Smith and little Sally. Sally Jones is writing Mrs. Sally Smith, Mrs. John Smith, you know, and kind of signing her name and dreaming of her wedding day.

And what are men dreaming about? They're dreaming about the Roman Empire, most of the time, every day at least. They're dreaming about sports. They're dreaming about cigars. They're dreaming about if they're dreaming about girls. They're not dreaming about getting married, usually. That's how it goes. It's the men have to be a little more dragged into getting married. The women were always dreaming about it. Now it's flipped. It's flipped. What a sign of a perverse culture. What a sign of a culture facing existential crisis? However, I can tell you why this is happening. Everyone seems really confused by this. I'll tell you why this is happening. Because women follow social trends. Men are less likely to follow social trends. There are countless studies on this topic, including there was a major meta-analysis last year, which showed that women are much more likely than men to conform to group norm. This is why there's a famous line from George Orwell's 1984. In fact, I copied it down here.

It's referring to the protagonist Winston, says, He disliked nearly all women and especially the young and pretty ones, especially the young and pretty ones. It was always the women and above all the young ones who were the most bigoted adherence of the party, the swallower of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers out of unorthodoxy. George Orwell was not a misogynist.

He was observing a fact about women, the young ones, especially the pretty ones, they go along with the social trends. All the girls who are enforcing the cancel culture and calling you a bigot and a phobic and a this and of that, it's that kind of, we all know the type, okay, and it's no knock on them. Viva de France, you know, that's human nature. However, there's, this means there's a good sign here, because women follow. The decline in religion, getting back to what we're talking about at the top of the show, The decline of religion was led by men, and then women followed. Now that religion has stopped declining, it's at least leveled out or it might be increasing.

Actually, there are good signs that it's increasing. The return to religion is being led by men, and women will follow that. Because men lead. They lead in every industry. They lead in every political campaign. They lead in every great nation in the world. there are always some exceptions. The exceptions prove the rule. Men tend to lead. Women tend to conform to social norms. That's not something to be angry about. Men and women are different. We agree on that. Men and women are different. This is one of the ways in which they're different. And so what you were seeing is that men have led the decline in marriage. This has been exacerbated by stupid divorce laws. This has been exacerbated by a culture that says that men are toxic. This has been exacerbated by all sorts of things that we should fix. And now it's reached the point where more men want to get married, more boys, 18 year old boys want to get married than 18 year old

girls. That means that that will switch. As men return to wanting to get married, women will follow, because that's how the sexes work. I am sure to be pilloried on all sides for this by the kind of red pill misogynist types and by the feminists and by the liberals and that's how you know that I'm right. That's how you know that I'm right. It's a little bit hopeful. Okay, really important story that I want to get to today. And it involves Blair White. Do you know Blair, Blair White was on this show years ago. I mean, in the earliest days of the show, because Blair is a guy who identifies as a woman. But he doesn't even totally identify as a woman. He went through the trans thing, got all the surgeries. Looks more convincing than 99% of trans identifying people.

But he'll come out and say, look, I know I'm a man. I know I'm not really a woman, but it makes me feel good to pretend to be a woman. And he's a really nice guy. And when it comes to electoral politics, he tends to fall on the Republican side, which in itself is kind of interesting, but we'll take all the votes we can get. He just made a claim, though, that also, it shows you about men leading the return back to religion, actually, is he says that he's Christian now. But there's an error in his thinking about Christianity that is very common. It's very widespread. But hopefully we can correct that. We don't have time to correct that today. We will correct it maybe tomorrow because today is T-H-H-H-H-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-E, the rest of the show continues.

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