The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1869 - BREAKING: January 6 Pipe Bomber Revealed

Episode Date: December 5, 2025

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planted pipe bombs to blow up the Democrat and Republican National Committee headquarters has finally been arrested. Almost five years after every right-wing Midwest granny, whoever took a selfie in or around the Capitol was thrown into solitary confinement for the sin of supporting President Trump, the only person who actually threatened serious political violence on January 6th, was finally arrested. And the crazy part is, President Trump's FBI tracked him down without a single piece of new evidence that was not already known to law enforcement for years. Weird.

I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles show. Welcome back to the show. Why is everyone all of a sudden going on paid propaganda trips to Qatar? I don't have any. Well, I mean, I'm not going to say I don't have anything. anything against Qatar. I spent a little tie to layover once in Qatar. I like being in Arabia, certain parts of it. And we've known for years about the paid propaganda trips to Israel and to other

I've actually been invited to even other countries. Me, though, all I want is a paid propaganda trip to Liechtenstein so we can restore the Jacobite line of succession of the UK. What is it about? Why is everyone going to Qatar? And where's my invitation? First, I want to tell you about Hillsdale College. Go to hillsdale.edu slash Knowles. This episode is sponsored by Hillsdale College, there is so much confusion in the world today. It can be hard to find clarity and truth. A new Hillsdale College miniseries on Colonial America offers a powerful reminder that the first Americans were searching for the same things. They believed faith and reason revealed God's design for the world and that understanding became the foundation of their bravery and freedom.

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He was arrested. Attorney General Pambondi gave a press conference about it, joined by FBI director Cash Patel, Deputy FBI Director Dan Bongino. They got him. His name is Brian Cole. What do we know about Brian Cole? He doesn't seem like a right winger. We don't know.

The FBI was pretty tight-lipped about it. But it doesn't seem like a right winger. There is reporting out now from New York Post that Brian Cole is an anarchist, though this is just sources say, sources say we don't have real confirmation on it. That would make sense as planting pipe bombs is the sort of thing that anarchists do, very much in the wheelhouse of an anarchist. The fact that they targeted the DNC and the RNC, it's kind of anarchist MO, not the sort of thing, a Tweety, Berkey, and Conservative generally does. What else do we know? According to the suspect's grandmother being reported by the New York Post, this suspect is a young man born, I think, in 1995, works at the family bail bomb. Company. Bail Bonds for criminals, not generally a right-wing business, a little bit more of a

left-wing business, Brian Cole Bail Bonds, which has been rated by the FBI. Also being reported, though again, it's a little bit foggy right now that they specialize in immigration bail bonds. So, okay, that put another notch in the left-wing corner. According to the grandmother, he would never make eye contact almost like he just didn't see you. It's always a the quiet ones. He's almost autistic-like because he doesn't understand a lot of stuff. I hope he is not talking again. Well, I guess a little touch of the tism cuts both ways. It can be left-wing or it can be right-wing. Often leads to a lot of very online behavior. We know a lot of people have been radicalized, especially to anarchism and to other left-wing ideologies online. But the grandmother

maintains he's very naive. He would not hurt a fly. He's just not that kind of person. This very, very much in keeping with grandmothers when they are interviewed after their grandchildren are arrested for crimes. They always interview the grandma and the grandma always says, he was very sweet boy. They interview the neighbors. Oh, very quiet boy. Oh, wouldn't hurt a fly. And, you know, find out he's some total psycho. So all of that is not that interesting. I always assumed it was a left winger. We don't know that for certain now. I'm just going off of my prejudice and every fact we know. It could be the case that despite every single fact we know thus far, what he did, what he targeted, his family, what he worked for, his family business, all the rest, the fact that he wasn't prosecuted under Biden or discovered or arrested, or it could be the case that all the evidence points in one direction and yet through some quirk of chance, he's a right-wing MAGA guy, but it doesn't look like it. And the FBI is being relatively tight-lived. The most interesting thing that the FBI said was how they made the arrest.

Here's FBI director Cash Patel. We did not discover any new information. What we did, an investigation spearheaded by the deputy director and the ADIC of our Washington field office, brought in a new team of investigators and experts, reexamined every piece of evidence, sifted through all the data, something that the prior administration refused and failed to do. As a result of that, we generated numerous investigative leads, executed multiple legal process with their U.S. attorney partners, and came to this conclusion today. No new information. What was new here? Something was new, but it wasn't the information. All of these facts, and we have a lot of facts. This guy allegedly bought the materials for the pipe bomb with credit cards. There were electronic records of this, places like Home Depot. they had a tail on this guy. It was all there. But the facts weren't new. The facts have been

known by law enforcement for years. The investigators were new. The leadership at the FBI and the DOJ was new. The president was new. So two options here. Best case scenario, this was malign neglect. Best case scenario, Biden's FBI and DOJ just didn't really. look into it that much, didn't care about it, didn't track it down. Maybe you could say it was just total incompetence, but they weren't incompetent when they were arresting all the Midwest grannies. They sent the U.S. Marshals out all over for months and months and months. They tracked down every single person from eccentric Yahoo's to well-meaning conservative supporters who took selfies in the Capitol, and they rounded them up, they arrested them.

In many cases, they put them in solitary confinement. So I can't say it was just incompetence. That's implausible to me. It was either malign neglect, not benign neglect. It was malign neglect. They looked at it and they said, you know, pipe bomb, that doesn't, I know that all the people that were at the Capitol on camera with the MAGA hats, I know that they're Trump supporters. So we're going to go in and round up every Trump supporter we can.

I don't know who planted that pipe bomb, and every sign that I see suggests he's probably not a right-winger. You know what, we're just not going to go there. We're just not going to pursue the leads that we're getting. That's one scenario. The other scenario is it was an active cover-up that the Biden, FBI, and DOJ saw, yikes. Okay, we got some info on this guy. It doesn't fit the narrative. We need January 6th to be the worst event in the history of the world.

old, we need it to be a right-wing insurrection, and this doesn't fit that narrative, so we're going to do, we're going to exclude it. Sometimes overzealous prosecutors will intentionally exclude exculpatory information in criminal cases. Maybe it's something like that. Those are the only two options. And I, look, I hope for the Democrats' sake, it's malign neglect. It makes them look a little bit better. But everything, we don't know that much. We will learn more. It's very important. It's very important that the Trump administration pursues this. Because if it is the case that this person had anarchistic tendencies had been radicalized into a left-wing ideology was simply just a kind of a left-winger. If that is the case, then it shows you something that we've been seeing increasingly, which is that the left is the terror problem. Even the Atlantic, a liberal magazine, had to admit it. left-wing terror is on the rise. Left-wing terrorism is the chief form of domestic terrorism in the United States without question.

It shows you another data point on this trend that the media and the Democrat politicians have tried to suppress and actually invert for years. And it shows you the corruption of the DOJ and the FBI under Joe Biden. Very important. Took them five years, huh? That in itself is a data point. It took him five years to round this guy up, around the Capitol. Hmm. Hmm.

I don't want to get ahead of my skis. That's just, that's all we have now. I'm sure a lot more is going to follow. Now, speaking of apparently left wing violence, there's a clip going around from Jubilee that, unfortunately, I don't think people paid a lot of attention to it. There's this guy, Tim Miller, who, man, if not for Trump, this guy, this guy was the Republican Party.

This guy worked. He was a spokesman for the RNC. he was a Jeb Bush's spokesman in 2016. He was the press secretary for the, I don't want, sorry, not Jeb, it's Jeb for the Jeb for the Jeb campaign. And now he is a radical, liberal, left-wing writer, commentator, goes on MSNBC, very pro-LGB. So he goes on the Jubilee show, surrounded. And he argues with a very, very articulate woman.

And he argues over this term fascist, this specifically, over the assassination of Charlie Kirk and how, you know, it's not that the left calls Republicans fascists, you know, because it's accurate. And it's not that the left targets and tries to kill Republicans because they're fascists. It's that they call them fascists in order to justify killing them. They've been doing that with Trump. They've been doing that with a lot of people. They obviously did it with Charlie. Listen to Tim Miller's hideous, callous response. This guy used to be a press secretary for a Republican presidential candidate recently. I'd like to address the fascism claim that you made,

specifically the fascism, because we've seen even, for example, Charlie Kirk last month was shot and killed. And so what happens when we use inflammatory flames like fascists, it paints people a certain way. I hear you know, well, but there's a thing. If they don't want to be called the fascists. That's like me saying,

if you want lax border policies, then you're an anarchist. It's a false equivalency. It doesn't add up. Someone can. Someone can. Communists and enemy within all the time. If you do this, then that just to say, look, look, if they don't want to be called fascists,

they shouldn't act like fascists. I just think that if this was not this country and you saw unmarked cars with mass people hassling and all, look at the story. If they don't want to be called fascists, they shouldn't act like fascists. It's no wonder that Tim Miller goes on MSNBC. It sounds just like the guy who was on MSNBC, Matthew Dow, Democrat strategist, while Charlie was dying, who said, well, you know, if you don't want to get killed, you probably shouldn't use this hate speech.

His exact words were something close to, you know, hate breeds hate, doesn't it? As if to say Charlie had it coming. Tim Miller's saying exactly the same thing. If they don't want to get called fascists, they shouldn't act like fascists. Now, of course, they don't. Republicans actually could probably learn a lesson or two from slightly more stalwart, rock-ribbed people, okay? The Republicans are quite liberal in their political philosophy, in their premises, and often in their behavior. nothing even close to...

I mean, the most right-wing mainstream Republican today is to the left of Democrats during the Bill Clinton era on most issues. And yet, he says, look, the first starting point is, if you're a fascist, we can kill you. If you're Hitler, if you're a Nazi, if you're a fascist, we can kill you because you're posing this existential threat to the country. And so we can kill you. And no, we're not going to stop calling you fascists.

even though the guy who murdered Charlie, I called him a fascist, said, hey, fascist, we're not going to stop calling you fascist. If you want us to stop calling you fascist, stop being a Republican, stop being a conservative, then maybe we'll stop killing you. Total confidence. Doesn't change his mind at all. This is not some extreme left, he is an extreme left-winger, but this is a guy, this was a Republican recently. This is a moderate. This is a guy who still writes for outlets that pretend to be, at least slightly conservative. It brought me to this conclusion that most of liberalism in theory and in practice is upheld by widespread and fanatical belief in things that just aren't true.

No, you are fascists. No, you're not. Here's all the evidence as to how they're not fat. Here's the, nope, sorry. Listen, just one last clip from this. It's unbelievable. It's worth watching the whole episode. Another very articulate young woman explains why it's helpful to her to be able to exercise your Second Amendment rights because men can threaten her. If they were to think that firearms can be owned by anybody that reduces the amount of them coming into my home in the first place. And second of all, if I were to have a gun, that is the ultimate equalizer. I cannot fight a 200-pound man off. And for me, it kind of braces the security. You might be able to. Hey, look, here's the You might be able to.

This like cute little girl. This cute little girl says, hey, I obviously cannot fight off a 200-pound man. You might be able to. You don't need a gun. You might be- no. No, you can't, under no circumstances, can any woman fight off any 200-pound man? It's not even like, well, most women can't fight off. Most women.

No, not one. Not one single woman on the face of the earth who has ever lived can fight off with her bare hands any 200-pound man. I don't care if he's the fattest, least healthy slob. I don't care. I don't even care how old he is. It just can't happen. Tim Miller, I think, has a lot of confusion about the difference between men and women. But it's true. It's not just him. It's all of liberalism. It is in many ways. Ronald Reagan said, well, the problem with our liberal friends is not just that they're ignorant. It's that they know so many things that aren't so. That's right. So much of it is based on just absolute complete confidence in things

that simply are not true. And if you contradict them in any way, especially these days, what they will tell you is, well, maybe we'll just kill you. Yeah, well, I mean, if you don't want us to call you fascists and then use that designation as a justification to murder you, nearly murder the president, murder the most prolific and prominent defender of civil debate in all of America on a college campus for trying to talk it out, commit violence at all sorts of other conservative speaking events, and also, by the way, try to blow up the party headquarters. Then, you know, then you just shouldn't state the truth. And doesn't that, I bet that guy didn't lose one second asleep after that. So what do we do about it?

You know, on the left and the right, I guess getting to my point on even the most rock-ripped conservatives being like kind of liberal in their assumptions, every, everyone seems to agree, we just got to talk more. And there are debates on exactly how to talk on the left. But the left would still say in principle that they support free speech. And the right has for years said, we're free speech absolutists. And what do we need? We need a free marketplace of ideas. Go to policy genius.com slash knolls. You know, this Christmas season, everybody's, then what am I going to get? You get a gift card. You get a this, you get of that. Maybe you should have a gift that can last a lifetime. With our show's sponsor, PolicyGenius, you can give your family gift that endures the security of life insurance and lasting peace of mind. Nearly half of American adults would face financial hardship within six months if they lost their primary income. Policy Genius makes finding life insurance simple, helping you secure real coverage so your loved ones have the financial safety net they need. when it matters most. If you've been putting off life insurance, now is a good time to sort it out before the year ends. Policy Genius makes the whole thing way less painful than you'd think. It's a simple online marketplace where you can compare quotes from all the major insurers in one place, totally free. They've got a team of licensed experts who will walk you through everything, answer your questions, deal with all the paperwork, help you figure out what coverage actually makes sense for you without all the confusing insurance jargon. The whole point is to find you

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That sound seems to show. Everything happens for a recess. Everybody going to Qatar. You know Rob Smith? Rob Smith is a military veteran. He's been on the right-wing speaking circuit for a long time. I don't think he does quite as much today as he used to, but seven, eight years ago, he was everywhere on the right-wing speaking circuit. he's publicly gay so that, you know, that is now kind of, especially now, more discordant on the right, but seven, eight years ago, that was really hip and cool. That was really chic to say, like, I'm gay and I'm a conservative. You know, it's a matter with that. You know, it's kind of cool. And I don't know, maybe it'd help people win elections. Obviously, there's a contradiction

there. There is some attention. But anyway, so Rob Smith posts this thing. He says, my first trip to Qatar has been eye-opening. This is a very different Middle East than I experienced as a U.S. Army soldier deployed during Operation Iraqi Freedom. Long before I was a political commentator, media personality, and podcast, or as a United States soldier tasked with defending my da-da-da-da. Did you know there's this airbase in Qatar? It goes on forever. It's like a whole book. And it doesn't read like an organic tweet. Maybe it is. Maybe it's just how Rob writes now. But it reads like a carefully scripted essay that is intended to convey something. something that's trying to sell something, basically.

And do we have the picture? Where's the picture? Yeah. So the picture, and there's this picture of Rob, looking good, looking chic, you know, looking slick, on some kind of brutalist building, overlooking what looks like it could be, I don't know, Irvine, California or so, but I guess it's, it's Qatar. It says this was, it's been eye opening. It's great.

It's wonderful. And then, so I see this, it's like, that's kind of weird, but whatever. I don't know. I've spent time in Qatar. I had a long layover there once. I was visiting a buddy in Dubai, and we had been traveling all over the Middle East and India. And then I had this layover in Qatar. And I thought, well, I could either go out in Qatar, but I think there's a bunch of Hamas people here.

So I don't really want to go out as a middle of the night. So I just hung out in a cigar lounge in the airport. And it was good. I had a great time. It was nice. But then I see our friend Emily saves America. And she takes this picture in Qatar, too. And she's overlooking.

It looks like the same exact scene. It says so beautiful, can't wait to come back. And I love Emily. So I should have around to talk about it. But I see it and I think, look, I'm glad you had a nice time in guitar. But that's not beautiful. That looks like, I don't know, like a just brutalist 1960s government buildings. Or like, I don't know, like public college campuses or something or bureaucracy halls.

It's not beautiful. You can talk about beautiful. It might be a nice country, the people might be nice, maybe, the ones who aren't in Hamas. But it's not, what is this about? Why are people going on these trips to Qatar? And then you remember, okay, well, if you're a media influencer, especially if you're in politics, at some point you've gotten offered a paid trip to Israel. Israel's famous for this. There's not no secret here.

I don't think people were totally aware that Qatar does this, but everyone knows that there are all these Israeli trips for lawmakers and media and influencers. And by the way, it's not just, it's kind of funny because those two are opposed to each other. And I think Emily is pro-Israel. I assume Rob is too. I'm not sure. But so it's kind of funny. You got these two rival countries, Qatar and Israel, and they're both trying to vie to get these media personalities to come.

It's not just them. There are countries all over the world that do this. And everyone's scratching their heads and saying, why are they all going to these random countries? I don't know the details. I don't know if they were paid, how much they were paid. I assume the trip was paid for at least. I don't know. I've never done one of these trips.

I've been invited on plenty of them. I've never done one. Not to be on my high horse. A lot of it is just like they. don't really have time and I'd rather go out to other places and I don't I don't want to do it. But why are they doing it? And there's a very simple answer. Everyone thinks it's all nefarious. It's a very simple answer. It's different imperial territories vying for political influence within the empire. The empire being the United States, Washington being the imperial capital. Political commentators,

influencers, pundits, do carry some degree, some modicum of influence. And so it's no surprise that these various countries, regardless of what they believe, would like to persuade them, that they are good countries and that the United States should support them more, give them more money, give them more privileges, I don't know, whatever it is. That none of that should be surprising. I know a lot of people, they insist, they say, oh, Qatar is the most nefarious country on earth. They say, Israel. Israel is the most nefarious country on earth or whatever. Lichtenstein. Lichtenstein doesn't have a big lobby. But they all say, oh, it's all, this is all surreptitious. I don't know. I don't really find it to be that way.

It's all just, it's just the tedium of the business of empire is really what it is. I don't, I don't find it all that scandalous. I think the way, the way to find this scandalous is if you believe what you learned on, you know, I am a bill up on capital. Capitol Hill, Schoolhouse Rock. If you think that our country is a yeoman Republic of Farmers, a nation separated from other nations by oceans, by oceans, and that's that. Then, yeah, it's pretty weird that Qatar and Israel and all these other countries are paying people to go visit them and trying to make them like their country. But if you recognize we're just an empire, that's just how it works. And we got to accept that. And if you don't like the current state of things, then the only only way to reform it is from the premise of what is real, which is that we're an empire. That's what you have to do. It's kind of funny. I don't know. Maybe I got to go to Qatar now. Qatar, where's my invite?

Why didn't I get that invite? I would at least, I don't know if I would actually go outside in Qatar, but I would go back to the airport cigar lounge. It was very, very nice. I think I bought my way in for like 50 bucks or something. Maybe 80, I don't know. Maybe there's inflation. Anyway, speaking of occupations, there was a really ridiculous headline in the Atlantic.

Does Heritage support discrimination against women? The organization's recent hiring reveals a willingness to countenance views decidedly outside of the American mainstream. This piece by Henry Olson, and I like a lot of Henry Olson's commentary on elections, things like that. This angle, I think, is kind of odd. He's going after Scott Yenor, a family policy scholar who's at the Heritage Foundation, and poses serious questions about the institution's beliefs concerning the equality of women in the workplace and perhaps even as citizens. Yenner's views are, to say, the least controversial. In a 2021 speech at the National Conservatism Conference, he labeled professional women medicated, meddlesome and quarrelsome.

Easy to take issue, hard to exactly find the error. Anyway, he goes on. He has echoed the online rights use of the term offals for affluent white liberal females, female liberals, awfuls in his writing, and had to step down from an appointment at the University of West Florida's Board of Trustees. when it became clear that the state Senate wouldn't confirm him or whatever. And he's criticized people on the right, and he's just, he's not a feminist. He doesn't seem to think that getting the women into the workplace is like the top priority. And I have to ask, why should he?

You know, he is a conservative, right? You know, he, I don't, I know there are plenty of Republicans who is, who is, who, who, They get really excited when they say the female unemployment rate is lower now. It's gone down. We have the lowest female unemployment ever. Why is it a good thing? First of all, the female employment rate does not reflect the actual employment of females. Because females, historically speaking, and even today, do a lot of things that are not calculated by GDP and do not fit into the labor participation rate or the unemployment rate.

Women do things like raise children. The hand that rocks the cradle is the hand that rules the world. Women do things like cook and clean and educate and within the context of the fit. Manage a home. Women do all sorts of things. They also work in the widget factory. They also, I don't know, they're like electricians, I guess. I don't know.

They also do stuff in the public economy. But why do I want women? greater numbers to go work in the widget factory. Why is that a good, why is that now the barometer of conservatism? Are you kidding me? This was a very, very, very liberal view for virtually all of history until what the 90s? And now we're being told that the most prominent conservative think tank, the Heritage Foundation, has gone beyond the pale because they've hired a family policy scholar who thinks that maybe women should be allowed to raise their families and that maybe women should not universally aspire to go work for some other man?

The crazy situation where for many women, I know many, many young women who have young kids, for many of these women, they want to stay home and raise their kids, they feel that they cannot. And maybe they could. Maybe they could make do with less. Maybe they don't need a giant house. Maybe they don't need another nice car. Maybe they don't need. But it's hard. It's hard out there in this economy. And in societies, we do keep up with the Joneses. We're memetic, creatures. That's just how it works. And when everyone else is living at a certain standard, then there are a lot of pressures to live at that standard too. So I actually sympathize with it.

Even if one could live more simply on one income moving further out, I sympathize at the very least. But I know a lot of women who say, I wish I could stay home, but I just need the money. I need the job. So then what happens? What happens is either women do their jobs less. That happens plenty of the time. or what they will do is they'll put the kids in daycare 24 hours a day, not literally 24 hours, but they'll put him in full-time daycare. And then the husband is in this weird position where he is going to work to make money. The wife is going to work to make money. And then he takes that money, the wife goes to work, can't raise the kid,

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wouldn't let their children read it. But now that I'm a mother, and I understand that people actually practice witchcraft, not as it is in Harry Potter, but still, I can see how parents could be concerned that their children might be caught up in the fantasy and attempt to pursue magic however they can. So at what age is it appropriate to teach children that witchcraft actually exists in a way, in the real world, and not just in stories? And would it be prudent to avoid stories like Harry Potter that glamorize magic? I was always relatively open on Harry Potter. I think it's weird, especially for millennials.

There's so many for whom it's like the only book they've ever read. It's the only book they've ever read. Their entire view of morality in the cosmos comes from Harry Potter. If they're ever going to make a literary reference to say, oh, you know, that's so Slytherin or what I don't know. I haven't even. I read them when I was a kid. I read the ones.

I read the ones that were published when I was a kid when I was a kid. And then I got older. I aged faster than she wrote. And then the ones that were published after I was a kid, I didn't read. But I enjoyed it when I was a kid. And I was open-minded on it, though my friend father, Dan Rehill, the Exorcist, you can watch our long interview, has like 8 million views or something on the Michael Null's YouTube channel and on Daily Wire.

He kind of Harry Potter pilled me and convinced me that there is at least some spiritual danger to it. because it introduces kids to ideas like magic in a particular way, not like a medieval fantasy story, not like J.R.R. Tolkien, where people know that, you know, hobbits don't exist and Middle Earth doesn't really exist, and it's all fantasy. But Harry Potter takes place in London. We're outside of London, but it takes place in the modern day. So that's a little spiritually confusing.

It suggests that there's good magic and bad magic, if it's not handled properly, that can be confusing. And as the literary critic, the late literary critic, Harold Bloom, pointed out, the writing is not great. He was particularly snobbish about it, but he said that it would be better for children to watch television to read Harry Potter because it puts stale metaphors in their heads. So for those reasons and more, I would say maybe read Tolkien. If you want to give your kids some fantasy, maybe read Tolkien.

When do you tell them about the occult, you know, as they get a little older. Tell them about God first. Focus more on telling them about God. And part of that, it will be talking about hell and that part of that will be talking about the devil and the fallen angels. And part of that will be talking about the personality of evil and spiritual temptation. Part of going to confession will involve that if you believe in sacramental confession. Even if you believe in a kind of direct confession, you're at least, you know, you're teaching about sin and temptation. So that's how I would do it. And I've become more close-minded on. Harry Potter as I've aged. Okay, next question. Hi, Michael. I love the show and love what you're doing. I have a question. I am expecting my second child and it's made me think a lot about maternity leave. I feel like maternity leave in the U.S. is pretty limited and it's one of the few points where I really kind of agree with the left. And I'm wondering what your opinions are and how you think, maternity leave could be improved on in the United States? Let me know your thoughts. Yeah, I support a vastly expanded maternity leave. I support 18 years of maternity leave for each child.

However, this would be difficult for the companies to shoulder the burden of, and it would be difficult for the state to shoulder the burden of and probably imprudent. And so I wish that our economy had not been socially engineered in such a way that women felt obligated to go to work as many, if not most women do. It's a real pity. And there are ways for women not to have to work. In many, many cases, it can be done. It will involve not going on vacations for as many vacations, but maybe not any vacations. It will involve maybe not having two cars. It will involve not ordering dinner out. It will involve not going out to eat often. It will involve, it will involve a lot of sacrifice.

Maybe you don't want to make that sacrifice, and I get it. I sympathize with it as our society has developed. I sympathize with it. I think for a lot of women, it is possible. And for some women, it's not possible. Certainly for single mothers, it's not possible. For women, given their circumstances, if you have a lot of debt, if your husband, you know, has trouble finding employment.

It's tough. It's tough. There are cases where the wife is the bread earner, and the husband is more than nurture. And that happened. It really does happen. You know, it's more the exception than the rule, but it certainly happens. I have friends like that, family members. So what do we do about it? Ultimately, that burden can't fall on the companies, and it shouldn't fall on the state because that's going to introduce all sorts of state meddling into the family, and there's too much state meddling in the family already. So I think what's going to have to happen is you need some state support for families.

in the form of tax credits, the new Trump baby bonuses are a good idea, maybe some from private philanthropy like the Dell family. That was beautiful contributing over $6 billion to help promote a childbirth. But what will ultimately have to happen is women will have to be so fed up working that they're going to have to demand changes to the political economy. That's ultimately what's going to have to happen. Because let's say, okay, let's say you get two weeks maternity, you get more than that. Let's say you get two months maternity. leave. So I wish we were like France and we had six months. Or I wish my company were like Google and we had five months. I don't know how many. But, you know, I wish we had, okay, in six months, then you're

going to be happy to leave your kid? I don't think so. Maybe for some women, sure, but what if you got nine months? In nine months, then you want to leave your kid? Not really. No, it's all these, all of these solutions are just half measures. I think for a lot of people, and especially this is true, the more kids you have. At a certain point, I think people might say it's, I don't know, and child care is so expensive on top of that. So, okay, well, when you take out the child care and you add on to this and I'm still bringing home an extra 10 grand a year, 20 grand a year, maybe more. That's good money. I'm not knocking 10 grand a year or 20 grand a year. But a certain point, I think people are going to find it's not really worth it. Next question.

Hi, Michael. I recently reposted something on social media about the pervasiveness of gluttony and slothfulness in the church that turned into a metaphorical nuclear bomb. Gluttony being the excessive consumption of food or drink, a vice satisfying physical appetites, and sloth being a spiritual or physical laziness or lack of effort, a vice of self-indulgence focusing on worshiping comfort. It seems to me church leaders are fine, boldly teaching about the ensnarement of lust, porn, addiction, greed, etc.,

but wholly neglect addressing the sins of gluttony and sloth. I'm not talking about a wish. thing, though it can be an indication, but it's a heart thing, a bondage thing. How can the church be strong when its people have no physical discipline, no self-control, no ability to say no to the cravings of their flesh? The physical body matters to God. We are commanded to treat our bodies as a temple of the Holy Spirit. Here's my question. Why aren't the sins of gluttony and sloth called out loudly and clearly and frequently from the American Church? And how do we get the American Church leadership to start caring about its pervasiveness, this literal deadly sin that rules so many of

its people. Are any sins called out in church anymore? Are they? I don't know. They are in my church. I go to a great church. It's much, much more traditional and extremely orthodox. But in a lot of churches, and by the way, I'm not even really distinguishing Catholic, Protestant. Is sin really talked about all that much? I'll tell you from my experience as a Catholic. We have confession. We believe that if there are venial sins and mortal sins, which comes from the epistles of John, all unrighteousness is sin, but there is some sin which is not mortal, which means there are these two categories. Veneal sin compromises your, weakens your relationship of grace and mortal sin severs it. And so you have to repent and receive absolution. And we have sacramental confession. It comes from

you see it in scripture when Christ says to his apostles, give the power to forgive and retain sins. Whose sins you forgive or forgiven, who sins you retain or retained. Anyway, we go, and the priest says, I absolve you of your sins. You're not, you are not to receive Holy Eucharist if you're in a state of mortal sin and you haven't been to confession. And yet the Catholic churches, they hear confessions for 30 minutes once a week, maybe. How are you going to get your whole congregation in? It's not possible. So they don't take sins or any kind of sin. And the Protestant churches in my experience, a lot of Protestant friends. Yeah, they don't really focus so much on sin. Or they don't take it seriously in other ways. So it's a major, major problem. And I agree.

Sometimes maybe the talk about sexual sin, sexual sin is tied to gluttony, though. I mean, a traditional, very basic bit of spiritual combat advice is if you're struggling with lust, you should fast. Fasting is prescribed for that, and it will mitigate the lust. So these things are tied. I totally agree with you. Gluttony is a big one. And sloth, too. Yeah, you have an obligation to be diligent. You know, every minute, there was some Eastern Orthodox guy I was just reading, said, you know, every minute that you're doing something that's not oriented toward God, it's a waste of time. Do we have one more? I know we're late. I don't care. Do we have one more? Hi, Michael. My name's Taylor, and I obviously love your show so much. So my amazing husband and I

are both 28 and next month we'll have been married for four years and we actually also grew up together so it always reminds me of you and sweet little Lisa but he's an active duty pilot for the navy which I am so proud of him for but sadly this comes with deployments and we've really been thinking about kids and just the timing of it all with that and I have this constant internal battle where part of me wants to just start trying and if it happens and he ends up missing the birth or really special moments in the pregnancy or a baby's life just deal with it emotionally. But it just really breaks my heart thinking about not sharing those moments with him. I think they're just so critical in marriage and having kids and the blessing of that. And anyway, he thinks we should wait a few more years so he wouldn't have

the chance of being deployed at all because he wants, of course, to so badly be there with me and our baby, God willing. But I'm just feeling so sad about that too because I really want a baby. I'm just feeling that, you know, instinct right now. So anyway, I'm just wondering your thoughts on this. And he also comes home this week from an eight and a half month deployment. And I'm so excited. I've missed him so much. Thank you, Michael.

Wonderful, great year from you. Please thank your husband for his service. That's great. Another tie-in, the Knowles family has a lot of Navy in it. You got a lot of Navy in that family. Cousins and uncles. And my grandpa was a Navy captain. He was a career Navy officer.

and he and my grandmother had six kids. And it's tough. So you say, well, your heart would be broken if your husband missed the birth. You know what would break your heart more? If you don't have a kid, have a kid. You guys need to have kids right now. You have to have kids right now. He's coming home from deployment.

He's great. Light the candles. Get the music on. Maybe I'll do a little ukulele rendition for you, set the mood and have a kid. You should do that. It's tough. I've heard plenty of stories from my family about my grandpa being deployed, eight months, nine-month deployments.

And, you know, yeah, you miss a lot. It's tough. I mean, obviously, his line of work involves an immense amount of sacrifice. Even without the deployments, though, even just getting orders, you know, moving around, that's tough. That's going to take a toll on the kids. It's going to take a toll on you. A lot of the burden of that is going to fall to you. That's it.

That's what you guys signed up for. And we're very grateful for it as Americans. It's wonderful. It's a great, a very noble profession. But that's part of it. So, no, you can't put off having kids. until what? Okay, then maybe you won't have deployments and, I guess, in most circumstance, maybe, but maybe you will, and then who knows? And if it remains in that line of work,

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