The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1874 - Alleged Charlie Kirk Assassin Smirks During First Court Hearing

Episode Date: December 12, 2025

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The smirking leftist trans furry fancier who allegedly murdered Charlie Kirk made his first appearance in court yesterday, and though it was infuriating for Charlie's friends and for his many, many admirers, the alleged shooter's mere demeanor, I think, cleared up a lot of the apparent confusion over who done it. Then, tensions ramp up between the U.S. and Venezuela, as Venezuelan dictator, Nicholas Maduro threatens to break America's teeth, and everyone seems to forget that a Catholic mystic who prophesied 9-11 said of some major global event that it will start in Venezuela. You don't really hear about that. Little tidbit a lot in the mainstream media. We'll get into that. Also, the president of the European Commission finally decides to stop illegal Muslim

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Charlie's alleged murderer. Reminder, I have to say alleged because in journalism, until someone's been convicted of a crime, you have to say alleged. But the guy whose fingerprints were found all over the gun, who was turned in reportedly by his parents, who reportedly sent text messages, confessing to the crime, who did this then, the other thing. This guy finally appeared in court. He was wearing a shirt, a tie, and shackles, and he was smirking. And the smirk, I think, is real key here, because it's been three months. It feels like it's been three years, but it's been three months since Charlie was murdered. And we all saw the... the guy get arrested. Tyler Robinson is the suspect. We all saw him get arrested. We all learned

about his trans, furry, gay boyfriend. We all saw the weird text messages. We all saw that they were part of a discord server with other pro-LGB, pro-anarchists, leftists. We all saw a lot of weird stuff. And then he went away because he's been arrested. There's an investigation. There's going to be prosecution. So people have kind of had this guy out of their minds. And then you can fill in the gaps or you can forget about him entirely. But now we have to see him. We have to look at this guy. And the thing that I noticed, and I think the thing that a lot of people noticed, whether

you were friends with Charlie, whether you were one of the many millions of people who admired Charlie, the thing you notice is, this freak was smirking. He was smirking. In the courtroom video, in the courtroom pictures that we have, he was smirking. He wasn't saying, I'm an innocent man. You got the wrong guy. I'm wrongly accused. He was smirking. He was showing no remorse, and he would seem to me to be insinuating his guilt with his facial expressions, with his demeanor, with his laughter, with his nonchalance. Here's how PBS described it. He, Tyler Robinson, smiled at family

members sitting in the front row of the courtroom, where his mother teared up after he entered the court. Next to her were Robinson's brother and father, who took notes throughout the hearing. Robinson's legal team says his pretrial publicity reaches as far as the White House, with Trump announcing soon after Robinson's arrest with a high degree of certainty. We have him. I hope he gets the death penalty. Fair point. But defense attorney Kathy Nestor has raised concern that digitally altered versions of Robinson's initial court photo.

This is the best part of the reporting to me. The defense attorney is arguing that digitally altered versions of Robinson's initial court photo has spread widely, creating misinformation about the case. So this is deep fakes, this is AI, this is Photoshop. Some altered images show Robinson crying or having an outburst in court, which did not happen. Very interesting that the defense attorney would bring this up. Because I think this argument actually cuts against her defense, cuts against Tyler Robinson's defense. If he were crying, if he were having some kind of emotional outburst, To me, that would speak much more toward his potential innocence than a kid sitting there smirking.

Well, he's being brought up for murdering Charlie Kirk after he reportedly confessed to having killed Charlie Kirk after his DNA was found on the gun. As I frequently say, long before Charlie was murdered in many other circumstances, it's always the ones you most expect. this guy, everything we know about him, is that he's an LGBT, highly online, furry, loving, radical anarchist, violent freak. And these kinds of guys have been threatening to murder Charlie, and everyone around Charlie and all the people who kind of do what Charlie does forever. And some of them have tried. Some of them have gotten closer.

One piece of evidence that I've mentioned in all of this, as we talk about the left-wing terror problem, that even the Atlantic magazine has to admit, is when I was giving a talk at the University of Pittsburgh two years ago. And a radical leftist, very online anarchist showed up and threw an explosive into the crowd as I was walking on stage. And seriously injured a female cop. Would have happily killed many more people had he had the opportunity. He's in federal prison for this. That guy, at least, was ostensibly straight. He worked in cahoots with his wife who got off with a slap on the wrist.

But it all kind of goes together. The anarchism and the leftism and the radicalism and the violence and frequently the LGBTism and especially the T part of the LGBTism. It always kind of seems to go together. It's not like there weren't warning signs. Now, one part of the murder that we still need to figure out, there are two parts of the murder, as far as I'm going to say, that we still need to figure out. One, who was that guy who popped up after the shots rang out?

And that older looking guy, the guy who got up and said, I did it, I did it, and he gets arrested, and then he admits when he gets to the jail, nah, I didn't really do it. I was just distracting so the real shooter would get away. Who was that guy? Was there some planning involved? Or was he just a total freak? Both of those are plausible to me. I've met a lot of these freaks. could have been part of a broader conspiracy. We do know that people were posting on social media in advance of the murder saying this will happen, this will happen. Now, that's not dispositive because that happened. That's what these guys do. These radical leftists, these violent leftists will say before conservatives go out and give talks and appear places, run for office, President Trump, aw, he's, you know, be a shame if something happened to him tomorrow at such and such event.

and, oh, tomorrow, that's going to be a big event. That's going to change the world. They do this kind of thing. Now, they also might have plotted this all out. Maybe that weird, freaky text exchange between Tyler Robinson and his transferee boyfriend, maybe that was to cover up the transferey boyfriend's involvement. That's how it read to me.

I don't know. I haven't looked at more evidence. Maybe more people were plotting this out in the Discord server. Maybe. But what about Tyler Robinson? We're seeing him now. He's in court now. He's smirking. He's having a grand old time. There are two ways that this guy could get off. As far as I can tell, there are two ways that this guy can get off. One is that people just don't believe that this kind of guy could do it. It can't be some fruity leftist who likes his discord server and has a bizarre affection for his true. trans-frey roommate. It can't be him. He's a fruit loop. He's a poof. He's a weirdo. No way. Couldn't be him. They don't do that. The left isn't violent. The LGBT. It can't be him. Can't be just one leftist

tries to murder a conservative. There have been plenty of examples of this, of course, over the years, even in recent years. But no, it couldn't be. It couldn't have been this guy. It had to be someone else. The left is always there. It has to be a white supremacist. It has to be a white guy. even when it's Hispanic. They say, well, he's a white Hispanic. He's a white Middle Easterner. And he has to be a right winger. He can't be a leftist.

Or the moment they prove that it is a leftist and say, well, his politics couldn't be discerned. The trans shooter who murdered the Christian kids at the Covenant School in Nashville, they said, oh, no, she wasn't political. The moment we found out her ideological motivations, no, no, it was no ideological motivation. She was just after fame. So it's just one way that Tyler Robinson could get off. So say, oh, no, it couldn't be. Couldn't be him. The left isn't violent.

The LGBT aren't violent. Is that? Or, here's the other way they get off. That people are happy he did it. That's the other way. The other way that this guy gets off the hook with all of this evidence is that people say, well, you know, hate breeds hate, doesn't it? That was MSNBC's reaction while Charlie was bleeding out.

Utah. MSNBC's reaction while they were covering this event, while the most prominent promoter of peaceful debate in the country was dying after being shot by a leftist, Matthew Dowd, Democrat analyst on MSNBC said, well, you know, hate breeds hate. That's what happens, isn't it? Wasn't he asking for it, essentially, is what he was saying. Don't think that Tyler Robinson and walk. It doesn't, they got his fingerprints, they got his DNA, they got, they got, they got the family turning him in, they got the texts to the furry boyfriend, they got this, they got that, they got this, don't think he can't get off, don't think he can't get off. Don't think he can't get off. Don't doubt the power of narrative in diluting people. Gosh, we've all lived through that

for decades, haven't we? And don't doubt the targeted intentional violence of the left and the degree to which they will downplay, excuse, justifying, even celebrate political violence. That's exactly what they did when Charlie was killed. We'll see more. We'll see more from him. If I were the defense attorneys, I would do everything I could to get those cameras out of the room. To me, if there was a shadow of a doubt in someone's mind, you see the smirk on the guy's face, that's it. Okay. Speaking of violence, tensions between the U.S. and Venezuela are ramping up. Nicholas Maduro, the dictator of Venezuela, is threatening to punch in the teeth of America. And people are kind of sleepwalking into this war in Venezuela.

Myself even, I've been kind of glib and dismissive of it. There is a warning of a Catholic mystic, a 20th century Catholic mystic who is now a servant of God. Her case for canonization has been opened. There's a warning in which he says that a major. global event, a catastrophic global event, will begin in Venezuela. And this is a woman who prophesied 9-11. We'll get to that momentarily first, though. How's that for a teaser? First, I want to tell you about policy genius. Go to policygenius.com slash Knowles. It's that gift-giving season. Don't you wish gifts could last a lifetime? Well, with our show-sponsor policy genius, you can give your

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CIA been trying to prod that guy out of, I mean, going back multiple presidential administrations. Now, especially that President Trump is turning his attention away from the Middle East toward the Western Hemisphere, where we've asserted dominance for, gosh, for over 200 years now, Trump is zapping the drugboats, and he's building up the military off the coast, and he's reportedly just calling Maduro and saying, hey, we'll let you out if you leave now, but I can't guarantee your safety afterward. And he's, and he's, and he's, now seizing a Venezuelan oil ship. Maduro says he's going to break America's teeth. Trump's response, it's kind of funny, According to the reporting, he says, I assume we keep the oil.

Do we finally get the oil? This is always Trump's great criticism of the Iraq War. I loved it so much. His criticism of the Iraq War was not some left-wing criticism. You know, oh, Islam's a religion of peace. Oh, we can't. Oh, the precious Baoth Party, we can't, you know. It wasn't that.

And it wasn't even a nationalist kind of opposition. I wasn't saying, we need to stick within our own borders. We can't ever have interests around the world. His opposition to the Iraq war was, we didn't even get the oil. The Libbs said, no war for oil, no war for oil. My problem is, we didn't have a war for oil. No war for oil? I thought this was a war for oil.

Hold on. You guys sold this to me in a terrible way. So, Trump's reportedly, is according to the sun, he says, I assume we keep the oil. $70 million on board. So what does that mean for Venezuela to kick us in the teeth? It's Venezuela. Who cares? They are allies of our geopolitical adversaries, Russia, Iran, China.

I love that Trump's playing tough. He's not getting in the muck with. I don't like it when people get in the muck. Everyone loves to get in the muck. They love to get in the muck and be gossipy, little reviling detractors. And they just love to just like try to. But why would Trump do that? He's going to go get. Fidel Castro benefited from this. When the United States would really go after Castro in an over-the-top way, Castro loved it because it built up. his profile. I think that's what Maduro wants here. Trump says, nah, who cares? Who's he? What? Nada. He is nada. We are going to keep the oil. Comprehende? He says, he's going to give the U.S. a real being. He says, in times like these, we must be like warriors. This is Maduro, with both eyes peeled, working, producing building, keeping the country functioning, and be prepared to kick in the teeth the North American Empire if necessary. Okay. Trump, too, he was asked for why this operation happened. He said, quote, it was seized for a very good reason. What happens to the oil? We keep it, I guess. Okay. I'm fine with this. I don't lose sleep at night over the United States

asserting influence, especially anywhere, really, but especially within our traditional sphere of influence and within the Western Hemisphere. However, we don't want to just rush into war and we don't want to be led blindly into war, because wars can spin out of control. There's a Catholic mystic. Bear with me. I know. There are people who don't believe in mystics, period. There are people who aren't Catholic or aren't Christian, or just bear with me. This is woman, Maria Esperanza de Biancini. She was Venezuelan. She died about 20 years ago, 21 years ago. She's a servant of God. The canonization process includes all these steps, servant of God. venerable, blessed, and then finally you're canonized a saint. Now, basically, a saint is just anyone

who's in heaven. Your grandma might be a saint, but the canonization process formally recognizes with the keys of St. Peter, with the power to loosen to bind, with the authority divinely instituted, we believe, to say this person is definitively in heaven. And she's in that process, this woman. This woman predicted 9-11. Maria Esperanza de Biancini prophesied 9-11 in 1992, I think it was, so before the attacks of 1993, said that she saw two buildings with black smoke pouring out. So that was interesting. Not only was it before the attack in 2001, it was before the attack in 1993. Then apparently prophesied it again in 2000, and then yet again in August 2001. This is a woman who had mystical visions of Mary, of Our Lady.

Catholics are not required to believe this, to believe private revelation, but many people do. And apparently, this Catholic mystic once said, of Venezuela, it will start here. What is it? What is it? What is it, though? She didn't say World War III will start here. She didn't say, she just was discussing calamities with global implications and said, We'll start here in Venezuela. And what I find so resting about that, let's say for a second, you're not Catholic.

Let's say you're not Christian. Let's say you're not religious in any way. Let's say you don't believe in mystics. Let's say you think that's all woo-woo clap trap and you're a real hardened materialist, realist, and you just stick with the empirical facts. Okay. Do wars ever start in unpredictable ways? like for instance, if a Serbian nationalist were to murder an Archduke and the child of an imperial leader,

could you ever imagine that that would start the world war that would fundamentally change the civilization? You probably wouldn't predict that. You wouldn't say that because an automobile, made a wrong turn down a street, a Serbian nationalist would kill an Archduke and a Habsburg Archduke, and that would fundamentally reorder the entire world and lead not only to one other, but actually two other global wars, because it would lead immediately to the Second World War and then to the Cold War, all of which are basically the same struggle. No, you wouldn't predict that. World wars have started for less than what's going on in Venezuela.

And don't forget, what's going on in Venezuela is not just about, you know, some two-bit dictator trying to hold on to oil. There are Chinese interests there, Russian interests, there, Iranian interests there. It's kind of like the war in Ukraine. It's kind of like the war in Israel, Gaza. There are a lot of interests intersecting. I would not be, and this is, look, this is an admonition as much for me as it is for anyone else. We should not be so cavalier. we should not be so cavalier about the war in Venezuela.

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European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, she has finally come up with a way to stop illegal Muslim immigration into Europe, which is drowning Europe in its historic historical enemy, Islam, which has been trying to conquer Europe since the eighth century. Now they're just welcoming them all in after rebuffing them for 1,400 years. Well, please, come on in. Well, now, some Europeans don't like that. They say, you know, we don't really like all these Muslims murdering our family members and raping our daughters

and taking over our civilizations and putting Palestine flags on our cathedrals. We don't like that. We don't love it. Minarets everywhere. So, ever responsive, the president of the European Commission says, Okay, okay, you're right. We need to stop your legal immigration, and I figured it out. I figured out how to do it.

We're going to have way more legal immigration. Here she is. We must open more safe, safe pathways, legal pathways to Europe. We must create more bridges between our continents. We must make sure that people can find a job where their talent is needed. Match the skills. bring skills across our borders. And this is at the heart of our new talent partnership

which offer work rules into Europe. Said Contra, what if we don't have more legal and safe and open pathways to Europe? What if we don't need that? What if we... She says we must open more safe and legal pathways to Europe so that we bring in the Indies. and all these other people. What if, though, what if you don't? Why do you have to do that? She thinks,

we talked about this on the show, I think yesterday, two days ago. She thinks that the part that everyone is really upset with about the illegal immigration is the illegal part. And so she said, hey, I have an idea. You all hate this mass illegal immigration. Well, what if we just make it all legal? I wave my European wand and now it's all legal. Now you're not going to be upset, right? I mean, sure, all these people are still going to be raping your daughters and killing your family and putting minarets up over your skyline and but shooting up your Christmas markets but now they'll be legally shooting up your Christmas markets. Okay, not, it won't be illegal shootings anymore. What if we just don't? This has been a major shift in rhetoric from the White House, which is, by the way, people are going to

ask about this. I'm wearing a Christmas tie. Yes, I'm with, so some say. But you'll notice, it's got little Christmas trees on it, red tie, but only some of the trees have stars on it. I consider this to be more of an Advent tie. And I'm wearing this because I was so honored and so happy to be able to go to the White House Advent Party yesterday. It was great. I think on the invite it said it was a Christmas party. Obviously, it's an Advent party. It was beautiful.

It was really gorgeous. It was what President Trump made beautiful remarks. A little bit of a sidebar. But don't ever, don't think people are cool. You went to a Christmas party. You're wearing Christmas. It was an Advent party. I'm wearing an Advent tie. The Muslims are shooting up Christmas markets, though, and that's a big problem. Now maybe Europe needs to follow America's lead, as it often does. Europe followed our lead into wokeness. That was unfortunate. Now they've got to follow Trump's lead. Trump is recognizing, hey, the issue isn't illegal versus legal mass migration. We just want less migration. The issue is on the substance, not just on the procedure. Now, for this, Major Democrats are accusing President Trump of not understanding what it is to be an American.

I don't think Donald Trump has read the Constitution. I think he's ignorant to it. He's ignorant to a lot. I don't think he understands that this is the foundation of our democracy. I don't think he understands what it is to be an American. I mean, nobody in his family has ever served in our military. I mean, you go back generations. I mean, my family, four generations. Donald Trump, nothing. I mean, all this guy cares about is figuring out how he can fleece the American people out of their money. You know, this president's presidency has been a travesty for this country.

So, Mark Kelly's contention is that, Trump doesn't know what it is to be an American. Because why? Because he's never served in the military. Barack Obama never served in the military. Is Mark Kelly going to come out and say, Barack Obama doesn't know what it means to be an American? Please give me that. Kamala, did Kamala serve in the military?

Don't think so. Did Joe Biden serve in the military? Don't think so. Did Bill Clinton serve in the military? Don't think so. He was a bigger draft dodger than anybody. It's such a cheap shot, which is all these kind of people take.

He's not in America. He's not, I've served in the military. You know, I have a lot of buddies who have served in the military, a lot of family members who've served in the military. They find this stuff disgusting. When some cheap, two-bit politician maybe served in the military, maybe he violated the uniform code of military justice, as Mark Kelly appears to have done recently, when he encouraged soldiers not to follow orders. Regardless, when they come out there and say, you're not American, I'm American because I serve in the military, you're not American. and when they kind of just use it for cheap political points, my friends who've served in the military and my family members,

they find that disgusting. But obviously it doesn't work on his, so then what is it? It's not that you have to serve in the military to be an American. That's not a citizenship requirement. That's not how we can conceive of ourselves. We wouldn't have any Democrat presidents in recent history if that were the case. What's he saying? He's saying that Trump doesn't believe the right things.

So actually, there are people on the right, people who at least would call themselves on the right, who agree in principle with what Mark Kelly's saying, namely that American identity is purely creedal. In other words, that a guy today in Bangladesh who can recite the Declaration of Independence, we hold this truth to be self-evident and all the men are created equal and they are endowed by the creator with certain unalienable rights. that that guy is American and the farmer in Idaho whose ancestors came here on the Mayflower or something, that that guy, if he holds the wrong political opinions, that that guy's not American. How can you say Trump is not American?

The Trumps have been in America since the end of the 19th century. Some people go back further. The Knowleses have been in America since 1660 and the Fullers, who the Knowles, who the is married into in the 18th century, the Fullers have been here since 1620, since the Mayflower. But, I don't know, 1880s is pretty good. That's when the Trump's got here. Would we say this about any other people? Would Mark Kelly say, you know, a Chinese guy who doesn't believe in Chinese things? He doesn't believe in the CCP. He doesn't believe in socialism with Chinese characteristics, as chairman she describes it. Even if that Chinese,

His guy's family had been here since, you know, Chin Shih Wang or something, since the first emperor of China. They say, he's not Chinese. He doesn't believe the current thing. He's not, no. And this is part of what we're coming out of. I think that's what a lot of these debates over immigration are about. It's what a lot of the racism accusations are about is a grappling with American identity.

America is a younger country than China. has taken in lots of disparate peoples, a lot of African slaves, who were not considered Americans until the 14th Amendment, and now they are. Now they are, they are American citizens because the 14th Amendment. You got to grapple with that. Fourteenth Amendment was ratified a long time ago. So you can't, you can't say it's just white guys or just black guys. And you can, there are immigrants who have been here for a long time. So it's just believing something. So some guy in Tibet today, he's American, and I'm not? I don't think so, Mark Kelly. Really shallow stuff.

But it comes to an important question. Okay, before, speaking of shallow stuff, before we get into Mailbag, I have to get to this really, really amazing, shocking, arresting show that is on Netflix called Steps. Steps is about Cinderella's stepsisters. It's an animated show, but here's how they pitch it. They say, think you know Cinderella's evil stepsisters?

Think again. When misunderstood Lilith is blamed for hijacking the royal ball with a stolen magic one, she accidentally turns her sister Margot into a frog and leaves the kingdom in the hands of a prince-obsessed mean girl. Now, Lilith must team up with Cinderella and a surprisingly dreamy troll to save their kingdom, repair the fractured fairy tale,

and prove that even so-called villains deserve a shot at happily ever after. Huh. You thought she was one of the bad guys. But what if the bad guys? is really the good guy. This is, this kind of storytelling is as dumb as when, you remember when you were a kid and you had this, I remember when I had this thought. I said, what if the color I see as green someone else sees as blue? You ever think about that? Do you ever think about it? I'm looking over Professor Jacob. He's sitting here running the show because we're on the road.

And he's looking up, I had that thought this morning, Michael. No, it's not, no, it's not. No. The color you see is green is the color green, okay? And the bad guys are the bad guys. And the good guys are the good guys. And people are complex, but in narratives, it's not so lazy. It's like, hey, this kind of storytelling is just, hey, what if it were opposite day? Hey, I have an idea. I have a really great idea of a movie. What if it were opposite day? So we're going to take all the great stories and we're just going to like scramble them up a little bit. They're not even, that would be even interesting. We're just going to flip them. And the problem, the reason I don't care about Netflix or this movie or whatever, but the reason

I care is because this has poisoned our political culture and we just always assume that. That's why freaks who murder innocent and good men can get off the hook. This is why repeat offenders who have been arrested 75 times are allowed out to go murder and rape and kill and pillage and burn. This is why, because we had this thought. We had a functioning society called Christendom, a functioning civilization, the greatest civilization ever in the history of the world. And then one day we came out, this was roughly around, some dated differently, some would say it was in the 1960s, some would say it was around

the time of the so-called Enlightenment, liberalism, secularization, whenever it was. There was time that we now call modernity, where we just came out and said, hey, but what if it were opposite day? What if the bad stuff is actually good? And the good stuff is actually bad. Wouldn't that be wacky and interesting? It's not. It's wacky, but it's not interesting. It's very, very bad. And it causes a lot of moral confusion. Okay. I want to tell you about Pure Talk. This episode is sponsored by Pure Talk. As a consumer, you carry the success or failure of businesses in the palm of your hands. Their success depends on your decision to spend money with them or their competitor. Well, my friends over at Pure Talk would like to say thank you from the

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the apostle commanded in Acts chapter 2 for people to be baptized in the name of Jesus. And it looks like that's the only way that they baptized throughout the book of Acts. I'm really curious to hear what you have to say about this matter. I look forward to your response. Thank you. Bye. This is a really, really good question. And there's a lot of confusion on this, especially.

I know there's some people who insist only on baptizing in the name of Jesus. and they might do it for good intentions, but the reason that we baptize in the Trinitarian formula, the reason that for a baptism to be valid doesn't have to be done by a priest, doesn't have to be done by a Catholic or an Eastern Orthodox or whatever. For a baptism to be valid requires the proper matter, which is water, and the Trinitarian formula to be baptized in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. The reason for this does not come from the book of Acts. It actually comes from the Gospels and it comes from our Lord in the gospel according to St. Matthew, Matthew 2819, where Christ gives the Great Commission. He says, go therefore and make

disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and of the Holy Spirit. So that's it. Now, people might leave it as saying, okay, well, you've got Jesus saying one thing and his apostles saying another. The Gospel of Matthew is saying one thing in the book of Acts saying another. So are the apostles disagreeing with Christ? No. Because in the book of acts itself, you see different versions of baptizing in the name of Jesus. You see different baptizing in the name of the Lord Jesus, baptizing in the name of Jesus Christ. So which is it? Is it in the name of the Lord Jesus or in the name of Jesus Christ or does it not matter as long as it's only Jesus but not the Father of the Son? and then we ignore what Christ says in the Great Commission or, no, there's no contradiction here.

What the apostles are talking about the book of Acts is to distinguish Christian baptism from other kinds of baptisms. There were other kinds of baptisms. I mean, our Lord is baptized by John the Baptist. John the Baptist was baptizing as he was making straight the ways of the Lord. There were Jewish baptisms. There were pagan baptisms. And so I think that's really what's going on in acts. Is to say, no, no, no. You need to baptize people in the name of Jesus into Christianity, into true religion. And how do we baptize? Well, Christ tells us in the gospel according to St. Matthew, with water in the name of the Father and of the Son and the Holy Spirit. Okay, next question. I'm going to pull it up right now.

Hi, Michael. I recently listened to your analysis of the Trump immigration numbers. And being the former high school teacher, well known to you, I couldn't help but decide what kind of grade you deserve for your analysis. I would give you an A, maybe an but certainly not the A plus plus plus plus plus that Trump has given himself. The reason for my slightly lower grade than you've accustomed to when you were my student is because there was a slight omission. In your analysis, I would suggest and I'd like to know what you think, that you should add to the numbers, the number of immigrants that have been deterred from immigration.

So the total number should be everything you added plus the number of immigrants that would have come if Trump was not president, which would balloon the success rate of his immigration policy beyond imagination. So I'm suggesting a new data point, which will be immigrants deported, departed, and discouraged. The new number and total of all that would be a wonderful improvement in the success rate currently being reported. Have a great day. That is a great point, Mr. Poplardo. I heard that voice. I said, I know this voice. Who is the, wait, you were a teacher, you were, that's my civics teacher, Mr. Poplardo,

from Fox Lane High School. And look, this is why Mr. Poplardo is the teacher and I'm the student, because you make an excellent point. I mentioned, there are these people who are attacking Trump. And it's not really attacking Trump from the left. The way you attack Trump on immigration from the left is to say, it's inhumane to deport the face, tattooed gangsters. It's in your, because the bad guys are good, remember? And so we need to protect the bad guys. And that's not, that's not in any way persuasive. The, at least certainly not for us, the attack from the right by people who just hate Trump and, I don't know, they want to burn the GOP down or they're secretly helping the Democrats or whatever.

But the attack is, well, Trump's not really deporting enough people. He's only deported three or 400,000 people this year. I say, first of all, even just using the official formal deportations, Trump has deported over half a million people this year, all through the official channels you can document them. But that doesn't tell you the whole story. Because in addition to that, you have 1.6 million or so self-deports. So people who have voluntary, and maybe substantially more than that, people who have voluntarily left the country. There are some lower estimates of that that put it at 800,000 self-deports, even down to I've seen as low as half a million to 700,000. It's a little trickier to figure out because these people are undocumented. However, you're looking at somewhere in the neighborhood of certainly over a million to two million people leaving. That's pretty good. That's a very good number. But Mr. Poplardo makes a very important point. Trump has also just stopped bringing in the illegal aliens. There were three million illegal aliens who were entering per year at one point under the Biden administration. So that's right. If you add that in,

now you're looking at four to five million people who otherwise would have come in or stayed in this country who have left. That is a success. And Trump has only had 11 months or so, so far. That's a success. And really, I think the people who are hitting him over that are just trying to cope because they didn't support him. They didn't believe in him. They, for whatever reason, they wanted to undermine him. And it didn't work out. He deserves a lot more credit on him. Okay, let's take one more. I know I'm running late. Let's take one more question. Hi, Michael. You're an inspiration to me. I wanted to share that I framed my pre-up after your wisdom. Neither my fiance nor I believe in divorce. So I had my lawyer draft the Null's prenuptual agreement

stipulating that whichever party initiates the divorce forfeits everything. It may not hold up in the state of New Jersey, but I figured I'd give it a try. I'm pretty confident that the pre-nup won't be needed. I want it as a deterrent to divorce. Thanks for all that you do. I love that. Congratulations on your marriage. I have suggested for years the Knowles pre-nup. I said, I do not support divorce in any circumstance. Sometimes in extreme circumstances of danger, you need a separation, but I just don't recognize divorce, nor does our Lord. And what God has joined, no man can separate, and divorce has all these terrible practical consequences to it that has really ruined society and it's just bad for basically everyone involved. So I said,

I support one kind of pre-nup. When you have all these manosphere kind of, they say, well, therefore, we need a pre-nup. You know, you've got to protect men because of all the divorces. I said, no, no, no, no, no, I don't want to protect men in the case of divorce. I don't want to protect women in the case of divorce. Exactly. My chief goal is to prevent divorce. And that's why I support the Nol's pre-nop, which is very simple. You give one line. Whoever initiates the divorce forfeits everything. That's the NOL's pre-NANP. Now, a thoughtful person did say, well, Michael, if you begin with a prenuptial agreement of any kind, that would invalidate the sacrament of marriage because you are opening yourself up to the possibility of divorce. You're going, but I think the NOL's pre-nup gets around it. Because what the NOL's pre-nup is is not just a negative kind of whoever initiates a divorce forfeits everything.

what it really is is a positive affirmation. You could also phrase it another way. We believe in marriage, period. Sign it. That's it. Those those two documents, those two statements mean the same thing. We believe in marriage. That's great. I love that. You say it might not be recognized in the state of New Jersey. I guess it might not. Should be. Should be. I want to see candidates for governor, state legislature running on that. It's a very important one. Okay, I'm late. I don't care. I'm in Washington. What am I going to do the rest of the day? I'm Michael Nolz. This is the Michael Nulls show. Wonderful to be with you. As always, see you on Monday. Oh, this is an illusion, an echo of a voice that has died. And soon that echo will cease. They say that Merlin is mad. They say he was a king in Dovered, the son of a princess of lost Atlantis.

They say the future and the past are known to him. That the fire and the wind tell him their secrets. The magic of the hill folk and druids come forth at his easy command. They say he slew hundreds. Hundreds do you hear that the world burned and trembled at his wrath. Died long before you and I were born. Merlin Emress, as we were born. return to the land of the living.

Portigan is gone. Rome is gone. The Saxon is here. Saxon, Hengist, has assembled the greatest war host ever seen in the island of the mighty. And before the summer is through, he means to take the throne. And he will have it.

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