The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1879 - The Right-Wing Civil War ERUPTS At Americafest 2025

Episode Date: December 19, 2025

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The conservatives are here amid a right-wing civil war to pay tribute to the past, to look to the future. The title of my speech was, Blessed Are the Peacemakers. My friends and colleagues who took the stage around me tonight had a little bit of a different thesis. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles show. Thank you very much. This is great. I want to do the show at America Fest in front of a live audience every single episode.

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I remember showing up years ago. What was it? A thousand people, maybe, 1,500, 2,000 people, more and more and more. Now it's completely a capacity. I would estimate 30,000 people here that would have sold 100,000. I think it was sold out months and months ago. So this is it. It's here to pay tribute to Charlie. It occurred to me today when I was driving to the show. This is the last Charlie event. Charlie, because he did the work of 10 men, would have events planned out months into the future. He and I were supposed to do an event 12 days after he was killed, which I then

did alone with an empty chair. A number of Charlie's other friends hopped in for the rest of that tour. He then had a book come out posthumously. His wife Erica heroically went on and did the book tour. And then there was America Fest. But this is it. It hit me walking in. This is the last event that Charlie directly had his hands in. The stakes feel so high. The stakes feel so high because there is a civil war brewing right now in the American right. There was always going to be a civil war because we're coming to the end of the Trump era. We don't know what's going to come next. It's been a decade where Trump has dominated the coalition. And it was, it was always going to happen because Charlie Kirk was, was the man, probably more than anyone, who held that coalition together,

who did the work of keeping people who disagreed with one another, some of whom didn't like one another within that coalition, excluding the people you should exclude, keeping everyone happy and moving in the right direction. With his loss, it was always going to be fractious. So my speech, which you can find, I'm sure it's on the TPP USA channels, I think you can find it on my YouTube page too. It was called Blessers Are the Peacemakers. I outlined my vision as to why we should try to figure out a way to get along, move forward, keep our eyes on the prize. I think I was the only person who is speaking in America best who had this point of view. My friend and colleague Ben Shapiro comes out, opens up after Erica Kirk's beautiful speech.

Erica, actually, who also touched quite beautifully on Charlie as peacemaker. Ben comes out, and Ben, with that Shapiro-esque clarity, starts throwing haymakers. So no, Tucker Carlson, it is not an excuse to go silent on Candace's targeting of TPUSA. Or to mirror her bullshit lines of questioning because you love Candace personally. The same holds true of Megan Kelly, a person I consider a friend, characterizing Candace as a young mother and thus shying away from condemning her actions or feeling me about them. That is a non-starter. Megan Markle is a young mother. Ilhan Omar is a young mother. That doesn't matter. And when Megan said this week, quote, my goal and my job here is to try to understand, yes, where Candace is coming from

on this. And so she sees no purpose in inserting herself, quote, into this on one side. That is a moral and logical absurdity. There is only one moral side here. Erica Kirkson. side. Ben coming out, one elbow to Tucker, one elbow to Candace, one elbow to Megan. He was taking no prisoners. He was going directly at a lot of other people in the space. And the crowd responded. The crowd responded actually quite favorably. Obviously, it's not exactly my tactic. And so I go on between Ben and Tucker, I considered my speaking slot to be something like being right in between Indian Pakistan. I think it was somewhere

between Iran and Iraq. But Ben comes out and he makes the argument, which was well received, that we, you know, we need the truth above all things, which,

of course, I think everybody agrees with, and we need to clearly define the boundaries of conservatism, and we need to stand up, you know, for the vision of conservatism that is about

free markets and limited government and what have you, and everything else is verboten. In addition to condemning conspiracyism and bigotry and all the rest of that. Then Tucker takes the stage. And what was so curious about Tucker's point was that Tucker came at it from a largely classically liberal perspective.

If you're telling the truth, you ought to be able to explain it calmly and in detail to people who don't agree with you and that you shouldn't immediately resort to shut up racist. You shouldn't immediately go to motive. I mean, first of all, if I was a racist, if I was a bigot, I would just say so. Okay, it's America, you're allowed to be whatever kind of person you want. I'm not. I'm sincerely opposed, have always been, and will always be. But the style of debate where you prevent the other side from talking or being heard

because you immediately go to motive, well, I wonder why you're asking that question. I wonder why. Why are you asking that question? I detect in the question a certain evil in your soul. And everyone listening should know, that listening to you implicates them and that they someday may be asked to denounce you and that friendship is not a reason to defend someone

i kinda thought we reached the end of that and as far as i'm concerned we have and i'm not gonna play by those rules so you you hear a tucker come out he says look i think we should judge people as individuals you know he's speaking in this uh... classically liberal way condemning racism in many ways on the defense i'm not an anti-semit i'm not i'm not I'm not racist. I'm not bigoted. So you had Ben, in other parts of his speech, anticipating things that Tucker was going to say. You had Tucker in his speech anticipating things that Ben was going to say. Obviously, the other guy was in the other's mind when they were writing their speech. And it led me to the conclusion that they should speak. I'm sure invitations have gone around at various points, but they should speak. They should hash it out. In many ways, I think, they would agree on a lot of things. Probably the two of them would agree on things that I would disagree with them on.

Because what my contribution to all of this fighting and hopefully working it out was, is that, first of all, we must unite because we must win. We must win because we have to get along as a country. Because politics is the art of getting along. Politics is not some foreign thing. It's not extrinsic to human nature. Man is a political creature. Man is a social animal.

we have to live together. Our nature inclines us to live in ordered societies. We can't get along with the left right now because the left wants to murder us. They're perpetrating murders against us. They're minimizing them, excusing them, even celebrating them. The justification for political violence on the left is only going up. Survey after survey shows that even liberal magazines show it. So we cannot get along as a country right now. The only way that we can get along as a country is if we keep winning and restore some order and we de-radicalize the left. That means that we need to not just have the wins from 2024

and previously, we need to keep winning. We need to hold power for an extended period of time. The only way that we can do that is if we have a coalition that works. Obviously, we have to exclude people. All coalitions have borders, so we have to exclude the unjust, the cruel, vulgar

hatreds based on race or sex or what have you. But I don't believe that you need to hold to some particular view of economics. to be on the right. I don't believe that you have to adopt the slogans of 1983, or 2003, for that matter, on foreign policy or economics or the size of government in order to be on the right. My view is a little bit more expansive than that. And the proof of this, I think, is that the Republican Party was founded promoting tariffs. And then we hated tariffs. And now we like tariffs again.

The GOP was opposed to immigration. Then it liked immigration. Now it hates. immigration again. We were the party of isolation, then we're the party of bombing the whole Middle East, and then we're the kind of the party of restraint again. And these changes are not evidence of hypocrisy. It's not evidence that we're rudderless. It's evidence that we understand what politics is, which is a practical science. It's not up in the ether. It's applying eternal principles to constantly change in circumstances, to being responsive. The left was not responsive. The left got caught in its own disconnected ideologies. That's why they're getting blown out of the water at the ballot box. We need to continue to be responsive, especially as we're seeing a generational change.

When President Trump leaves, assuming we don't change the Constitution, and he doesn't get his third, fourth, fifth, and six terms, when he leaves, the boomers exit the political stage. You're going to have potentially a millennial president. You've got zoomers coming up. Gen X is going to be the oldest guys in the game now. And so these shifts have to happen naturally. What is it that distinguishes us? We have to love our country. We have to recognize that there isn't American people worth preserving.

we have to be willing to contribute and sacrifice, and even sacrifice within our own coalition. I've never gotten applause on a live show before because Mr. Davies never applauds me, but that was very cool. He never applauds me, but that was cool. That's why we got to get a live audience in on the show all the time, Ben.

You need all of those things. That's what makes up the right. And so I like having these fights here. There are going to be more fights over the coming days. Then we need to unify. I don't want to see people taking their balls and going home. I don't want to see them retreating into their own factual corners, mumbling the same old shibboleths that have not been relevant in 15 years.

I want to see people getting in, working together, keeping their eyes on the prize. That is a lasting and enduring legacy of Charlie Kirk, because a lot of people have opinions. It's easy to have an opinion. It's easy to mouth off. It's easy to fight with people. It's easy to defame or detract or anything in the middle.

But what's very hard is to build to assuage, to refine, to have the patience to suffer setbacks, to work toward a goal, and to win, to have the courage to actually win, to stake something morally, and go out there, take the victories, build on the victories and build a better country. A very, very hopeful at the end of the first day of America Fest, especially because of all these beautiful, smart, serious conservatives. I was just jones in for more applause. I want to get to much, much more momentarily, but first, I want to tell you about Prager You. Go to prageru.com slash DW. America, as we all know, is approaching our 250th birthday. This should be a time of celebration. But did you know that only 41% of Gen Z says that it is proud to be American?

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at America Fest, a live show in front of a beautiful audience. Wow, this is good stuff. This is exactly the opposite of the scene that you're seeing a video that's gone viral. This is a woman who is on food stamps, CBT, SNAP. This is a woman who asks the question for our age.

Matt Walsh asked, what is a woman? These days, we're all asking, what is an American? This woman asked, what is the point of food stamps if it's just used for food? It's not even cool. Like, why do that? What's the point of food stamps if it's just for real food? Hannah Moore believes she and other SNAP recipients should be able to go into the grocery store and buy whatever they like. Dota, candy, pre-packed sweets, prepared desserts,

and juice with less than half of natural fruit or vegetable juice, and it will not be allowed to be purchased on snap cards. I don't know what Trump is doing. I don't know what's going on. What is the point of food stamps if it is just used for food? I feel like, I feel like Shapiro in that clip from one was it six, seven years ago. You know, he said the Boy Scouts are for boys, and then the Lib in the school said, well, where does it say that? And, He says, actually, gang, it's in the name Boy Scouts. That's how I feel about the food stamps. Where does it say that food stamps are for food?

It's in the phrase food stamps. That's where it's from. I think people are beginning to notice after the massive fraud among the Somalis in Minnesota, after the new fraud they've uncovered among the Haitians in Massachusetts, during the government shutdown, when we found out, what, something like 10% of the population of some states are on food stamps, we realize it's not just people who really need it, who are getting this, feed their kids, get them Cheerios, there's a ton of fraud.

And you're beginning to wonder, is the reason that everything is so expensive, just welfare fraud, generally among immigrants, but even among Native-born Americans, is that how corrupt is the country? How deep does the corruption go? And how fundamental do we have to get

in our re-education of who we are? You know, the big question I just alluded to it of a couple years ago was what is a woman? You actually have to teach people the difference between a man and a woman. Now we have to remind ourselves what's it mean to be an American. And you have to get down to basics. What is the point of entitlement programs? What is the point of food stamps? Does it have something to do with food? Do we need to finally clamp up, set some new standards? I think that's probably true. And you're seeing this in a beautiful way, controversial though it shouldn't be out of the Trump administration.

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In fact, I think a lot of what this year's America Fest is about is about settling the latest right-wing civil war. There's always some right-wing civil war because the right is just too independent-minded to ever get along on anything. So we're in the period of generational flux. We're beginning to rethink certain things. And one of those is how we deal with the civil rights offices, how we deal with some of the anti-discrimination programs. Because for a long time, what the right said was, we shouldn't have these civil rights bureaucracies that are going in and adjudicating every identity issue. We need to eschew identity politics. What did that get us?

That got us nothing, because the left has sufficiently ginned up identity politics, that all that has really led to is people on the right not using the tools of government that are made available to them. In principle, the whole point of the EEOC of all these civil rights offices is to stop discrimination on the base of race or sex. But we all know that isn't true. The purpose of the EEOC in these civil rights offices has been to stop discrimination, except for, white people and men and straight people and Christians and God help you if you're a white, straight male who's a Christian. Then you have no recourse whatsoever. Then it's actively good for you to be discriminated against. And in fact, the entire significance of a phrase like diversity is to say that there should be fewer of you in the schools, fewer of you in the jobs,

and we've got to get other people to replace you on the basis of those characteristics. So what the right said for a long time was, you know what, we're not going to engage in this. and we're just, we're going to try to abolish it altogether. In fact, you know what? Forget about these offices. I want to abolish the whole bureaucracy, get rid of the whole administrative state. By golly, wouldn't that be great? We'll go back to 1789 and we'll be governed by that beautiful piece of parchment the Constitution and we'll erase 200 years of history.

It's not going to happen. That's not real politics. That might be entertaining. That might be amusing for essays, for white papers, for think tanks and podcasters. That's not how politics. works. Politics is a practical art more than it is an abstract science, a pure science. You got to play the hand that you're dealt. You don't want to be unjust. You don't want to do things that are immoral, but you have to work within the given circumstances of the polity that you have. So if we're

going to be governed by some massive bureaucracy that is largely unaccountable to the legislature, in some cases even the presidency, if we're going to be governed by the Civil Rights Act as a new kind of constitution, then we damn sure shouldn't let it discriminate against a significant portion of our population. You have to work within the system in order to overcome the system. I think this is beautiful. This is the way. Good on Trump for doing it. Good on Andrea Lucas for doing it. And all you white guys out there, if you've been discriminated against, file your claim. This requires a political solution. Now, speaking of important uses of government, the House has just passed a very important bill, should be the most basic thing ever, says that you can't castrate

little kids. There's a big issue. The left had been castrating little kids for a while. The right called attention to this campaigned on it. We won like every single seat in the whole government and the whole country. And so then the House goes and says, we're going to pass a bill that says you can't mutilate little kids because of the weird sex ideology. And the Republicans vote for it. The Democrats vote against it. And four Republicans vote against it. This party, I mean, this is the theme of America Fest is the right-wing civil war. This party, the conservative movement is so fractious that there are sitting Republican members of Congress who cannot even agree that we shouldn't turn five-year-olds into Unix for our freaky sex experiments.

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company, and God bless America. Folks, here, I'll just wrap this. I'll wrap up this little segment on transing the kids. Conservatives are not going to make it. If we are so divided that we can't even agree on not castrating the kids as a matter of justice, as a matter of common sense, even as a matter of electoral politics after the 2024 election, got to unify, got to make peace, got to have a clear vision, got to move forward. That's a lot of what's happening here at America Fest. And so happily, since we have all these excellent, beautiful, smart, well-dressed young conservatives and old conservatives all around America Fest, We have a live Q&A, sponsored by Pure Talk.

Go to Peartalk.com slash annoles and switch today. I love the mailbag. You send me your malefluous words in the voicemail bag. You write into me. I often don't even get to the written ones. Now I get to see you all in person, beginning with a young man who is wearing the appropriate right-wing uniform, the suit with the red power tie. How are you?

Great. Thank you, Michael. I want to say first and foremost, thank you because you have inspired me to to stand up for freedom. I want to say thank you because I love your show and your books. I am a proud Turning Point USA chapter president and a 15-year-old youth liberty advocate. And my question is, in a world that is saturated today, I see my generation saturated in Islamic ideals and democratic socialism. How can young people really shift and turn the tides to where we're focusing on preserving freedom for the next generation?

Excellent question. And you bring up two ideologies, a religion and a political ideologies, that seem like they would be opposed. Islam and the left. You know, Islam, for instance, doesn't take kindly to homosexuals, is a little tough on ladies, not the most liberal religion out there, and the left, which doesn't believe in God, and inasmuch as it does believe in God, hates God. So you say, well, why do these two things get along? Because they do.

You know, they come into the synthesis with Greta Thunberg, who is a leftist who's wearing the kaffia and marching for Palestine or whatever. it actually makes sense that they get along because they have a common enemy. And the common enemy is America, Western civilization, Christianity, order, God, the true religion. And so how do we combat these things as Americans? I would go back to what John Adams wrote to Thomas Jefferson in 1813. He was writing to Jefferson and he said, you know, there were principles on which independence was one. They too had a fractious society, but they said, you know, look, the general principles of Christianity, the principles which united all of the sects, including a lot of very heretical people,

like John Adams, actually, those principles were the ones that inspired them to independence, as well as the principles of American and English liberty. I think both of those ideals are very, very important. Sometimes people ask whether America is a nation with people and a history, like normal nations, or whether it's a creedal country, you know, just an idea of floating in outer space. I said, well, it's not an idea. Look, it's a country, but there's a creedal aspect to any country. And so when you're trying to defend your American way of life, you have to dig into the American tradition. And that's where it is. Inasmuch as there is a creed to America, it is Christianity, broadly speaking, and the civic religion, which is the ideas and the practices of liberty

from America and from England. That's what you've got to practice. And you've got to recognize that the left has been threatening our civilization since the French Revolution, and Islam has been threatening our civilization since about 620 AD and has been invading about 100 years after that.

And so these are not problems that are going to go away, and there probably will not be any final victory this side of the second coming. But all we have is our time, you know, all that we have is our ability to rebuff these bad ideas, these bad movements. We have a responsibility to do that, and then we pass the buck to the next generation, which is you. Thanks. Hello.

We absolutely love you. You eat dinner with us every night. I'm so honored to be invited. What have we been eating? Whatever he cooks, I'm marrying an amazing cook. I'm very blessed. Yeah. So, but no, I was raised very liberal. I know you went through that. little phase. But yeah, raised very liberal, woke up, thankfully. And yeah, you've been a huge part of that journey. I do have a question about religion. I, my family, we are Irish Catholic, like, heritage-wise. My fiance is United Methodist. So I was just curious when we get married, because I've been really wanting to get baptized. I know it's a little easier to do the Methodist baptism than Catholicism, but I really love, like, the, I mean, the tradition, the everything that you've taught me about Catholicism pretty much.

So I was just wondering your thoughts on that because I know also, like, I've read that usually you convert to what the man is traditionally. So I just was curious your thoughts on that. So you're asking me whether you and your family should be Catholic or Methodist. Well, I love your idea. I mean, obviously, yes, you're right. The husband has a spiritual leadership of the household. So I think your dilemma is a false dichotomy. Do you follow your ancestral religion of Catholicism, or do you convert to the husband's religion of Methodism?

There's a synthesis of these ideas, which is that we convert your husband to Catholicism. And then there's no problem at all. That's a wonderful thing. When you mention the baptism, the Catholic Church recognizes valid baptisms based on the matter, you know, like the water. and the form, the Trinitarian formula, baptizing in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. So, you know, in a way I'm pleased to hear that there are still Methodists around, because, you know, the mainline Protestant churches have had some problems recently. He says Methodists is like Catholic Light. It's what he says.

The Episcopalians are usually called twice the liturgy, half the guilt. And now they have bishoprises and things. But, you know, if you want to be baptized, I would, of course, recommend a Catholic baptism. And it's that year-long journey. Yes. I would, you know, I would of course recommend that. But I would say, you know, really dig in with this, with your husband and grapple with this. And think about those distinctions. Maybe explore the questions.

Because I think it was John Henry Newman, though, might have been Fulton Sheen, who said, you know, there are a million people who oppose what they think the Catholic religion is. But there aren't a hundred people who oppose what the Catholic religion really is. And so I would dig into that. And you might find that you're persuaded by Methodist theology. Yeah. Or you might find, especially as I sit at your dinner table every night, that your husband and the rest of your family may be come on over and swim the tiber. And then we can all be together in heaven.

Absolutely. Sounds great. God bless you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you as well. Thanks. Thank you.

Thank you. Me and my brother, I love watching your show every morning. Oh, thank you so much. My question is, knowing that men and women were created equal. in the image of God, but we have different roles. How do you think voting would be, do you think women should be voting or just households? Well, the really conservative position, I guess, is that nobody should be voting. You know, we should just have divine right kings or something like that.

But we live in the system that we live in. Sometimes people raise this to be somewhat provocative to say, should we repeal the 19th Amendment? And it is worth pointing out as an historical matter that at the time the 19th Amendment was proposed, there were many, many women who opposed it. And they didn't oppose it, as the left suggests, because they're just a bunch of idiots or they hate themselves or they're sexist or something. They opposed it because that represents a shift

in the political economy. Previously, the basic unit of politics was the family. When you move to something more like a universal suffrage, the basic unit of politics becomes the individual. And so there's some advantages to that, but there are a lot of disadvantages to that. What I would say, though, to the people now who say we should repeal the 19th is,

you know, you have to dig in a little bit more specifically. The problem for the electing Democrats is not women voting exactly. It's single women voting, specifically single women in cities. So my way, my moderate view between the people who say, the 19th Amendment is the greatest amendment ever, all the women need to vote starting at the age of six, and we need to take away the right to vote from women, is we should say, only married women living in, rural and maybe suburban areas get to vote and they actually get two votes. They get the right to vote of the women who are single and in the urban areas. One thing I would say that you could do given our political circumstances is I like the idea that the husband and wife vote

together. I don't like the idea that the vote of a husband and a wife cancels each other out. And so it is notable that the married women tend to vote more conservative. So that's all a recommendation to get married, talk about politics together, come to the right conclusions, right capital R, and then we can worry about the amendments down the line. Okay. Thank you. Thanks. Thank you. Hi, Mr. Nolz. I am from California, which is obviously a very blue state. What can I do as a high school load or help California become Ovid? What can you do? Gosh, you know, if you were a little, bit older, I would say you might want to flee. Now, not as a way to escape problems, because you don't

want to be a coward. But sometimes you need a tactical retreat in order to mount a greater victory. So, you know, the conservatives retreat to these swing states and more red states. They get a big majority. They bring Trump into office. Then we shape national policy. National policy has an effect, even in the blue states, especially as Trump is threatening to withhold federal funds, sending in federal troops, deporting a lot of the illegals who give disproportionate power to the blue states. So there's some good cause for that. Now, I'm not suggesting you hop on a box car and run away from home as a teenager. So what can you do? You know, the best you can do is focus on your local area. So where in California do you live? So I'm on the central coast, so right by all the beaches. Okay. So, you know,

you're not living in the heart of the tenderloin or something. You know, you're not on Skid Row. there's a chance that you actually could affect local areas, maybe state legislature, maybe even Congress. That's where I would focus your efforts. Also, because especially if you volunteer on a congressional campaign, it's very good political training. You're exposed to national issues, but it's got all the pettiness and backstabbing of local politics. So you really get a good sense of what politics is about. And I would train there. The other advice I would give you, though I suppose I'm undercutting it by having you on my show, is I would not try to get famous too young. A lot of people in politics, they all want to be famous live streamers when they're six years old. And that's not a good idea. Because you don't, you just haven't fully formed what you think. You haven't had the experience of working in politics. And you're going to regret it if you do. So that's what I would do. I would dig in at that level. And if you have any practical political experience at all, you will be much better positioned and more knowledgeable than like 99% of broadcasters.

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I'm sorry. I'm sorry about that. He told me Professor Jacob was doing his job today. He's back home doing his job. He's probably asleep. I said I thought he was on sick leave, or on a trip with destiny. Yeah, he's always on some, he's always on medical leave because of his latest car actually. Yes, I was about to say, he's probably fixing his car. But I wanted to, my real question is to ask you, I have a teen podcast. It's called American Honey. Nice.

And I wanted to ask you, what do you think the biggest problem facing teenagers is today, and how do we fix it? The biggest problem facing teenagers is that they live their entire lives, on the internet. And, you know, I saw this a little bit because though I look very aged, because of all of my wisdom and the cigars I've smoked, I'm actually not that old. And so, you know, when I did grow up substantially online too. And it's very, very dangerous. But when I grew up, we didn't have smartphones. We weren't, we didn't live our lives through avatars of social media. Online dating was not really a thing yet. So I kind of feel like I got the last chopper out of NOM. And for young people today, the problems posed by growing up online are manifest.

Obviously, the big one is pornography. The exposure to pornography happens on average at like age 10, and it can seriously warp your mind, affect your relationships, damage your physical health. It's just horrifying and it's almost inescapable. That's just one of the problems, though. The other problem is that as you live your life online, you forget that we're incarnate creatures in the real world. the fact of the incarnation is the central fact of history. It's so important that God becomes incarnate and takes on flesh and is crucified for us in time and space. The more that you live your life virtually, the less that matters, the more you're inclined to live a double life, which is very damaging for your psyche, very damaging for your soul, the more easily you are preyed upon by people who are gaming the algorithm of your brain. So it would seem to me the best advice I would have for teenagers is put down, open up the smartphone, watch the Michael Knoll's show, first off. Then the moment the show ends, go to Mayflower Cigars or go to DailyWire.com

slash shop and get the Michael Null's candles in it. But the moment you order those products, put the phone down and go outside and don't have your first experiences of dating being online. Don't use online tools to cheat and rob yourself of an education. Don't believe that your virtual persona is your real life. You'll miss out on your whole life. It'll seriously damage you. And when you put it down by speechless. And by speeches, which is a physical book.

Yes. Beautiful. My last thing would be me and my mom always joke. My dog was born on January 6th. But you have a very special way of saying January 6th. I barely even recognize the date the way that you've pronounced it. Are you all familiar with that date? Do you know, you've heard of it?

Because it's the worst day in the history of this or any republic. You know it's the most horrifying, tragic day in the history of the world, known as January 6th, the day that makes Adam Schiff cry. Adam Kinsinger, Liz Cheney, they haven't stopped sobbing in five years. And we need to hold memorials for all of the terrible hornhaping. that were damaged that day. Thank you for bringing up that emotional. I don't know that I can go on and give my speech later after thinking about that awful day. Oh, no.

Wonderful to meet you. So nice to meet you. Can I give me my card for my podcast and how do I work for you, work for Daily Wire, get on the podcast? This is great. I've been trying to replace my associate producer, Professor Jacob, for five years. This is great. One Tee-He-He-Hee Tuesday the other day. Yeah, that's too little too late.

Please give me your card. I appreciate that. That's great. Look, that's a, I've got to get cool cards like that. Bell, lovely to see you. Thank you so much for coming on. Thank you to all of you. Wonderful to meet all of you. Great to see all of you as well. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Nulls Show. See you Monday. What was it like, Merlin, to be alone with God? Is that who you think I was alone with?

I knew your father. I am yet convinced that he was not of this. world. Poor men know of the great Taliesin. Who am I, Father? That the gods should war for my soul. Princess Garris, the saviour of our people. I know what the bull got offered you. I was offered the same.

And? There is a new pirate work in the world. I've seen it. God who sacrifices what he loves for us. We are each given only one life singer. No. No. We're given another. I learned of Yazoo the Christ.

And I have become his follower. He's waiting on a miracle. And I think you can give him one. Trust in Jesus. He is the only hope for men like us. Fate of Britain never rests in the hands of the great life. Great light. Great darkness. Such things mattered to me then. What matters to you now, mistress of lies?

You. Nephew. The sword of the high. King. How many lives must be lost before you accept the power? You were born to wield. So clinging to the promises of a God who has abandoned you. I cannot take up their sword again.

You know what you must do. Great life, forgive me. Time has come to be reborn.