The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1881 - BREAKING: Haitian Migrants Steal MILLIONS From Taxpayers

Episode Date: December 23, 2025

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I am a very hardline immigration restrictionist. But we got to be fair here. It was not the Somalis who taught this girl that argument. It was some lib, probably old stock, maybe comes from the Mayflower, white person in America who taught that argument that actually America's stolen land. And actually, that's why we have to give it all the way to the. Which brings us to one of the hardest facts of migration right now. The chief argument against mass migration is that we don't assimilate anymore.

We have had the largest movement of people in recorded history into the United States in the last 60, 70 years. We have the highest percentage foreign born in the United States that we've ever had. So that's a problem just in itself. That's very hard for polities. People have recognized it going back to antiquity. On top of that, we now discourage assimilation. used to be when you had the first waves of migrants. For a lot of American history, we didn't really take migrants, but for some of it, in the 19th century,

we took Germans, then Irish, then Italians, then Jews, then some Eastern European, a more Southern European, and then eventually after the 1960s, we started taking in the rest of the world. But in the early part, the 19th and early 20th century, we were tough on the migrants, and so we forced them to assimilate, and we wouldn't employ them otherwise. send them back if we could. We were tough on them. And now we're not. Now, in fact, we say you should not assimilate because our culture is so evil and terrible. And we don't want to erase your culture, and we don't want to appropriate your culture. And we just, we don't want to be a melting pot. We want to be a salad bowl or whatever. So that's the chief problem. But there's an added problem,

which is we also don't want them to assimilate to this culture. Because we currently live in a culture that tears down statues of George Washington and generally and Abraham Lincoln that says America's an evil, terrible place. It says we suck and we're on stolen land. So we both, we want them to assimilate because if they don't assimilate, they're foreigners who have very little to do with us. But we also don't want them to assimilate because the dominant culture of the last 60 years has been horrible and has itself made our country terrible. So tough luck on the migrants, but they're kind of damned if they do, damned if they don't. And it's a little bit on us, but in any case, we don't want it. Nobody wants a little Somali girl. I don't care how young and cute she is. Nobody wants a little Somali

girl coming to America and saying, your country is stolen land. Mishiguchi, goshi Han Solo, this is stolen land. Give me more welfare fraud. We don't want it. Now, some people in America have a different view. Mayor Wu of Boston has really reshaped my view of American history. And, you know, Look, we got some American Revolution ancestors in the line. We obviously go back to the Mayflower, which is a great cigar company. And so I thought I knew a lot about the history of New England. But it turns out that you cannot talk about any achievement in Boston without talking about the Somalis. You cannot talk about any achievement that the city of Boston has had in safety, jobs, and economic development, in education without talking about the Somali community.

that has lifted our city up. We are proud and we are grateful for our Somali community and for our Somali American neighbors. Boston and the country are clear that hate has no place in our society. We will use every attack to actually strengthen and expand the services available to empower and work alongside our community members who are already doing so much good in the world and set an example for the rest of the country. They set the example from the beginning.

You can't talk about any achievement of Boston. You cannot talk about the history of Boston without talking about the Somalis, right? I mean, who could forget the midnight ride of Paul Abdi Ahmed-Mohamed Revere when he was galloping along with the Saracens through the streets of Boston yelling, Oh la la la la la, the British home. Blah, bala. Who could forget that? Who could forget? Who could forget the Boston Ambulo party when the colonials dressed up in. tribal attire and poured that Somali stew that poor Jacob Fry in Minnesota had to choke down the other day with a smile on his face. They just poured all of that delicious stew into the harbor. Don't you remember that? How could you forget? It's not just Mayor Wu. Who was it? Someone else the other day, we covered it on the show, said that Pramila Jayapal. It was Pramila Jaya Paul,

the Democrat Congress lady who said that you can't talk about the history of America without talking about Somalis. They built this country. Somalis built this country. There were statistically zero Somalis in America before 1992, okay? There were none. They were statistically none. There were dozens who came over in the early 20th century and then a few more students came over in the 70s, 60s. But it was really not until Somalia failed as a state again in the early 19th. 90s that we had Somalis come over here. They have nothing to do with American history. They have nothing to do with America. And we are being told to our face, total straight face from Mayor Wu of Boston and from Pramila Jayapal in Congress, that Somalis are as American as apple pie, as

ambulo pie. I don't mean to just beat up on the Somalis, though they have nothing to do with American history other than very, very recent history when they have defrauded us. The only, the only contribution that Somalis have ever made to America is fraud, like massive, massive fraud. But it's not just the Somalis. Haitian immigrants, too, it turns out, in Massachusetts. Another, you know, bit of Massachusetts history here. We've talked about the Ambuloti Party. Now we will move on to the $7 million in snap fraud, thanks to the Haitians. Today we are announcing federal charges against two men, Antonio Bonner and Sao Elis May, for large-scale SNAP benefit trafficking, a scheme that turned a program designed to feed families

into a multi-million dollar criminal enterprise. One legitimate supermarket in the same area as these stores redeems approximately $80,000 in SNAP benefits per month. Over the last 20 months, the Jesuela variety store was redeeming between three and six times that amount monthly. With nowhere near the space, inventory, customers, or infrastructure to support it, the Salmachey Mixey store redeemed over $120,000 in SNAP benefits in the last six months. Simply put, there is no plausible way SNAP eligible food could have been purchased from these stores for this long. Yet, these two stores are alleged

to have illicitly trafficked nearly $7 million in SNAP benefits. The fraud was shocking and glaring. I guess it's shocking, but it's not surprising. It's shocking because of the audacity, but it's not

surprising because this always happens. These migrant groups come over and they defraud us. They just keep doing it. And we keep learning that the scale of the fraud, the enormity of the fraud, is higher and higher than we thought, and then we're shocked again. At what point do we stop being shocked? I think there was a big turning point with this government shutdown. In many ways, I think it was similar to the turning point of COVID.

In as much as Democrats loved COVID. They loved COVID because it allowed them to shut down the government, exert much more government control, and rewrite the election laws. So it gave them an advantage in the 2020 election. We're learning more about that, too. We'll see if we have time to get to that story. But it helped them. It allowed them to tighten their grip over the institutions that they controlled, and crucially, it allowed them to rewrite the election laws in battleground states,

in some cases unconstitutionally, to give them an advantage in an election that otherwise they were probably going to lose. Now, the downside of COVID for them, though, was that COVID, for instance, sent the kids home from school and created remote learning. And as a result of remote learning, parents finally were able to see the nonsense that their kids were being taught in school because it was now mediated by a computer screen. And what happened? As a result of that,

there were massive demands for education reform. There was a huge spike in homeschooling, people moving out of the public school system. So in the end, I think it kind of hurt the Democrats. That's how I feel about this shutdown. The Libs shut down the government month or two ago, long as government shutdown in history.

And then they just conceded. They totally surrendered. It achieved nothing. It was entirely on them. And they did it because they were trying to shift the conversation. Trump had too many wins. They realized that the only hard issue that they were winning on was health care. And so they tried to shut down the government and make it a bad health care.

But that kind of hurt him too because the Republicans came out and said, well, you're just shutting down the government because you want to give illegals health care. You want to give illegals more access to welfare programs. And the Democrats didn't have a good answer. Initially, they said, illegals don't have access to health care or welfare programs. But then, as the shutdown went on, the Democrats started saying, well, you know, if the Republicans won't reopen the government soon, these poor undocumented migrants won't have health care, won't have food. You say, wait a second, although you told me that wasn't happening. Now you're saying the reason we have to reopen the government, fund the government is because of the thing that you said wasn't happening. But if you expand it beyond just the undocumented, that is illegal aliens, to migrants generally,

previously the Democrats had told us, oh, they don't use welfare systems, they contribute to the economy, they're a net boon for the economy, and then all of a sudden we realize, no, it turns out, certainly in specific migrant communities, 60% of them are on welfare or more. So actually, they're just a total net negative to the economy, even if you want to make a purely economic argument. And then finally broadly, when we were looking specifically on SNAP, which used to be called food stamps, we noticed that there is just massive, massive dependence and fraud, not even dependence like a poor young mother needs that defeat her kids. Like just fraud, just Haitian, Somali, even native-born fraud. In some states, 10% of the population is on food stamps.

That shows you that there is something seriously wrong with the economy or with the food stamp program. And the economy right now is relatively strong. So there's obviously a lot of fraud going on here. I think it's going to hurt them. I think it's tuned a lot of people in to say, wow, gosh, why is housing so expensive? Well, two-thirds of rent prices have been driven up by migrants. Why is food so expensive? Might it be because there's just massive fraud taking government subsidies to inflate the price of food?

Wow, huh, maybe actually the points that the Democrats are giving us, Maybe they're actually the problem. So it's leading to a lot of people saying a lot of this comes down to mass migration and we need an immigration moratorium. Huge number just came out of TPSA. We'll get to that in one second. First though, I want to tell you about Pure Talk. This episode is sponsored by Pure Talk. As a consumer, you carry the success or failure of businesses in the palm of your hand.

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2028? What do you think of this issue? What do you think of that issue? Before we get to who they want to be their nominee, important issue poll. The TPSA straw poll shows that 90% of attendees support a full immigration moratorium. We need to stop migration into the United States. Illegal, legal, all of it. We're full. We got too many. People aren't assimilating. We got to stop it. Now, the Libs are going to say this is un-American because we're a nation of immigrants. This phrase nation of immigrants didn't even appear in America until the middle to late 20th century. It's a revisionist history. We are not a nation of immigrants. We're a nation originally of settlers. And then we had basically no immigration, very, very little immigration until parts of

the 19th century when we had very restricted immigration. And then, even that was too onerous and burdensome. So by the early 20th century, we essentially cut off all immigration until the latter part of the 20th century, and then we flooded the country with extremely foreign people. But the real history of America is not that we're a nation of immigrants. We did not consider ourselves to be that way for much of American history. And now, it's not just the attendees at TPSA, which is a pretty good sample of the Republican base. 30,000 people completely sold out. They would have had 100,000 people there had they had more tickets. These are people. people who are activists, but who are normies.

They're not fringe. They're not extreme. They are Charlie Kirk conservatives. And they're saying, we need a full moratorium. So much so that you got Chip Roy here, conservative Republican in Congress, who's introduced the pause act to implement a moratorium. I've introduced legislation called the Pause Act to pause immigration. And to pause it until we get our hands around all of the problems that are currently plaguing

our immigration system, the abuse of birthright citizenship, to have profit-centered ways to create American citizens by people coming here, coming across the Rio Grande, having children, making citizens that then can use American resources, our hospitals, our schools, our legal system, our welfare. We continue to allow a broken visa system to have extended family members be brought into the United States expansively and purposely. H-1B program has been exploited and abused now for years and must be abolished or massively reformed. Okay, look, I love all of this. I think this is great.

Good on ship. I'm a big fan of Chip, Roy. And I think in the 90s, people talked about an immigration moratorium, but it was really a fringe issue. Then it basically disappeared from Republican politics. Then people have floated it in more recent years. Now it's becoming a mainstream issue, the Overton window is shifting on it. However, I think we need to go even further. Can I offer that?

Can I offer, I know. Look, I want to take the win that the Overton window is shifted, but I think we need to go a little further. I'll just show you how the Overton window shifted and where it needs to go. when I was a kid, the only two views you could hold on on immigration were you want more legal and illegal immigration or only more legal immigration. But, you know, it's got to be legal. It can't be illegal. They have to fill out the right forms. But you always want more migration. Then it shifted to we need to restrict not only illegal immigration, but also legal immigration. So a shift away from just the procedure to the substance of immigration. Now it's shifting a little more.

It's just a subset of that idea, which is we need a full moratorium on all immigration. No one comes in, which practically is not possible. But you could dramatically reduce it to almost nothing. Kind of like the 1924 Act. But we're still avoiding one of the big issues, which is not the quantitative issue, but the qualitative issue. Even when we talk about an immigration moratorium, we get to avoid the really icky issue that people don't want to talk about, but which is obviously relevant, which is what kind of immigrants do we mean? Where are the immigrants coming from? Is there a difference between an immigrant from Mary Old England and an immigrant from Somalia?

Now, actually maybe not, because both of their names would be Muhammad. But like 30 years ago, there would be a big difference. One would be old John Smith, you know, who's got the traditions of Parliament and Magna Carta and the great kings going all the way back to the Battle of Hastings and this kind of shared history that we have. And Somalia, which has almost nothing in common with us. But that part you're still not really allowed to talk about. That part still seems a little icky or racisty or something like that. I don't think it is. But that's the part they don't want to talk about. And I think that's the part we have to talk about. Because the 1924 Immigration Act, did talk about that. And the 1924 Immigration Act just coincidentally happened to coincide with the greatest period of strength ever in America. Cohesion, strength, growth. That was it. The Immigration Act from 1924 up until 1965, that was the period, right? That coincided with other things, too, though they might have been related. Or strength heading into the Second World War, the early successes in the Cold War.

we need to focus on the kinds of people that are more likely to assimilate. And we're not, that's what we did for literally all of American history until the 1965 Part Cellar Act. And then we were told that we're an evil, terrible, racist country. I don't know, kind of all the arguments that that little Somali girl regurgitated. We're a stolen land. It's awful. We're terrible.

We need to let in. Specifically the third world. not just immigrants from the UK or Southern Europe or Eastern Europe, no, but specifically the third world. And that doesn't work. It's hard enough to assimilate Germans and Italians. It was legitimately hard to assimilate Italians and Germans and Jews and Eastern Europeans. And they're pretty close. They're very similar to the founding stock of the country. And it was hard to assimilate them, some of my ancestors. It is a bazillion times harder to assimilate. people who have a different language,

radically different language, a different culture, a different institutions, a different religion, different habits, different, almost everything. So this is good.

I encourage that. Yeah, okay, we can have effective, we can call it an immigration moratorium. It means a drastic reduction in all migration. But we're not going to get anywhere if we don't talk about the specifics.

What kind of cultures are more easily assimitable, which are less assimilable? The ancient Israelites talk about this. The ancient Greeks talked about this. The scholastics talked about this. Every serious statesman who's addressed this issue has talked about this. We need to go all the way. We need to be honest with ourselves. And I think even the hardcore restrictionists, they don't want to be totally honest. They want to pretend it's just a numbers game. Well, you know, we're all just kind of the

same. We're all undifferentiated blobs of humanity. Not quite. Traditions, culture, heritage, lineage, stock, religion, all these things really matter. Okay. Now, speaking of the TPSA straw poll, there is a clear answer on who the TPSA base wants to be the president. We'll get to that momentarily. First, I want to tell you about Shopify. Go to Shopify.com slash Knowles. This episode is sponsored by Shopify. When I was a wee lad starting my first businesses, boy, oh boy, how much easier it would have been had Shopify been around.

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We got it. It's right here. Coming in with 84%. of the vote, J.D. Vance. Followed by about 4% of the vote, Marco Rubio, followed by about 2.5% of the vote, Ron DeSantis, followed by 2% of the vote, Don Jr., followed by 1% or so percent of the vote, Ted Cruz, followed by 1% of the vote, Glenn Yonkin,

followed by 3% of the vote, 2.5 undecided, followed by 3% someone else right in required. It's just not, it's just not close. Not close anywhere. it's it's jd which i've called from the beginning and look i like a ton of these guys rubio rubio strong ron desantis i think it's a tremendous governor i really like don junior ted cruz is a very close friend of mine glen yonkin i don't really know i'm kind of miffed his uh statement about the robert raleigh statue the other day but he was a good governor all these guys are good it's jd why is it jd

because of his particular political strengths i think he in particular speaks to the political moment and he has a special skill at speaking to young people. But it's not even necessarily just about him personally. We are living in an almost unprecedented political moment in American history because we have a president who has a non-consecutive second term, which means that when Trump picked JD to be his running mate, he was effectively crowning him to be the heir. Because when you run for president, you're aiming at two terms. and because this one was interrupted and President Trump is term limited by the Constitution, by the 22nd Amendment, which I'll point out Ronald Reagan campaigned vigorously to repeal.

Nevertheless, it's on the books. And so he essentially, really no matter what Trump says, he crowned him when he picked him in 2024. So obviously, he's the pick. You don't need to just ask the kids at TPSA, Marco Rubio, who's the number two guy by a country mile, Marco Rubio has come out and told Vanity Fair, he doubles down. Of his own personal and political ambitions telling Vanity Fair last week, if J.D. Vance runs for president, he's going to be our nominee, and I'll be one of the first people to support him.

Very rarely do you see in Washington politics somebody who does something like this? Yeah, really remarkable, kind of the setting aside of personal ambition. And arguably, these two men, J.D. Vance and Marco Routio, would probably be among the top contenders. Yes, and that is backed up by the numbers. However, I love this reaction from the correspondence on Fox News. They say, wow, it's so rare to see people set aside personal ambition. That's a nice way to put it. And Rubio seems like a terrific guy. Nobody puts aside personal ambition willingly in Washington, D.C. Marco Rubio has been running for president certainly since 2016, and he was making waves in 2012. I remember it. Okay, this is not about just voluntarily sitting aside personal ambition because, you know, that's just,

he just so admires J.D. Vance. That's not my read on it. My read on it is. J.D. is the nominee. That's a fact. That's a fait accompli at this point. And so we need to deal in that reality. And look, he would be a good nominee. But as Rubio, I think, more acknowledging reality. And look, Rubio could be a great running mate. Who knows? If he's serious that he really wants to remain. Secretary of State, it would be wild for him to be Secretary of State across, say, three presidential terms. That would be pretty historic. In any case, I really like this. Not only because, as you know, I'm a great admirer of the vice president, but it's not just because of that. It's because of the stark contrast between what we saw in the TPSA stage

during all of America Fest and what we're seeing in the polling numbers, what we're seeing within the government among the hard politicos. On the TPSA stage, it was everyone sniping at each other and trying to excise people from the conservative movement and to vie for position. And perhaps for perfectly fine principled moral reasons. I'm not even casting aspersions on that. I'm just observing that's what happened. And then I look at the base and I look at the government and it's not division.

It's unity. It's division among the podcasters and the commentators and the writers and the think tankers. It's total division. It's like every man's on his own team, it seems, and wants to boot everyone else out of conservatism. But then among the base and among the actual politico's, the people that we're going to nominate and vote for, there's more unity than I've seen maybe in my lifetime. Just go back to TPSA. You've got, what is it, 80, sorry, 82 and a half percent support. for Donald Trump.

82.5% support for Donald Trump in 2020. 84% support for J.D. Vance. You actually have J.D. Vans, who's the VP, who was Senator from Ohio, who wrote an interesting book about growing up as a kind of hillbilly. That guy has more unified Republican support than Donald Trump. the man who won the popular vote as a Republican for the first time in 20 years. That is an amazing amount of GOP unity. And I gave a speech on this at Belmont Abbey,

anticipating some of the fights in the so-called right-wing civil war, which is mostly a phenomenon of podcasting and commentators and think tanks. It is not primarily a phenomenon of hard politics, electoral politics. And I pointed out, I said, look, there are all these divisions and all of these isms and ideologies, some of them perfectly justifiable and some of the antagonism is justifiable, but I just want to point out, who do we all support for president? All of us who are really within the tent, let's just use the example of the people Charlie invited to the event. He excluded some people. He invited a ton of people. Many of the people he invited hate each other, but who do we all

support for president? We all support Trump. And who are we basically all going to support next time? The heir apparent, J.D. Vance. And what do we all think about immigration? we need to greatly restrict it. And what do we all think about foreign policy? It needs to be restrained but strong. And what do we all think about the economy? It needs to serve the American national interest. And what do we all? Weirdly, when it comes to policy, we all kind of agree. When it comes to politicians, we all kind of agree. All the division takes place in this meta-political space of the commentators. That's interesting in itself, and there are all sorts of reasons for it, and I don't mean to just write it off. But I feel pretty good about

that unity. Amid all this report of division, I feel pretty good about that unity. Now, speaking of impressive, albeit more unsettling unity, have you read about the thruple, the gay thruple in the Wall Street Journal? You haven't. Lucky you. We're going to have to talk about it, though I'm afraid. This is from the Wall Street Journal. This is establishment, a newspaper, stodgy. I love the Wall Street Journal. Headline, one Thruple had three separate design tastes. How did they manage a renovation? After buying a plain vanilla box, a Chicago trio brought in an interior designer who blended

their aesthetics and added elements like a moody den for socializing and a three-person bed. Am I reading Playgirl or am I reading the Wall Street Journal? What is... We'll get to that in one moment first. Christmas is two. days away, if you need a gift, well, here is one that lasts all year. DailyWare Plus annual gift memberships are 50% off. No shipping, no crowds, no last minute scrambling. You send a full year of ad-free, uncensored daily shows from the most trusted and sexy voices in conservative

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I'm dreaming of a white Santa, just like the one I used to know. So true. So true. Mrs. Claus is black. Santa is black The elves will be black It will all George Washington

It's true That's true That's American history What's up with the throuple When corporate strategist David Goberdeal And pharmacist Ryan Tungate Started living together in Chicago

2013 They never intended to open their relationship Let alone their home to a third partner Excuse me one second we're one sentence in and it's already nauseating. But when they met consultant Michael Cowell, 35, through mutual friends in the summer of 2018,

things took an unexpected turn. We just clicked. An unexpected turn. Homosexual men do weird stuff. It was just totally unexpected. We had no idea. Can you imagine homosexual men would have multiple partners? That's so crazy.

This is a man bites dog story. Stop the presses. This is Wall Street Journal. So anyway, it's this whole thing about how three gay guys live together. But the story isn't about that. If the story were about that, I would understand, well, you wouldn't cover it because that sort of happens. It's unusual by norms, by normal standards, but it's not unusual necessarily within that community. However, I could see a newspaper covering it is just like, wow, can you believe this is what they do?

That's crazy, isn't it? But that's not what the story's about. The story takes all of that for granted. It says, yeah, these three dudes, or they're gay guys that live together. It's totally. And let's just talk about their throw pillows. And one of them wanted the dining room to be eating room red. And can you imagine the other wanted Forest Green.

However, did they resolve that conflict? In other words, the point of the story is to normalize thruple. The word throuple, I've used the word throuple because it's kind of a funny neologism. guys we we can't normalize thruple okay we can't don't we can't and we certainly can't normalize gay throuples i guess you see in history in pagan societies even in the old testament though it's not recommended you see a kind of patriarch with multiple wives maybe that would be a kind of a thruple but the gay thruple thing we that's especially and i don't even want to normalize the other throuple this

this is gross and one begins to understand sodomy laws I guess that's the clip for media matters today but it's fine it should be the clip because people need to hear this someone asked at America Fest actually someone was asking about sodomy laws would I support sodomy laws coming back on the books

and I pointed out the history of sodomy laws goes back to well the legalization or the constitutional ban on laws prohibiting homosexual sodomy goes back to Lawrence V. Tateau. Texas, a case about 20 years ago at the Supreme Court, which found, over the objections of Antonin and Scalia and the court's conservatives, that there is a secret constitutional right to homosexual sodomy, written presumably in Invisible Inc, somewhere between articles two and three. I don't know

exactly where it is, but that right is in there, apparently. And Scalia's argument was, look, whether you enjoy homosexual sodomy or you disapprove of it, it's not in the Constitution. and so there can be laws about this. So then get into the actual laws. The idea that there were still these laws on the books, as late as 2003, say. That seems kind of crazy to a lot of people. But I think it's also because they don't understand the purpose that these laws served. Many such laws, not just pertaining to this particular vice, but to other vices as well.

People think that, you know, these poor perpetrators were getting their heads lopped off for committing crimes that many of us don't think are very very. serious all the time. That's not true. These laws were very, very rarely enforced. There were not purity police going around door to door to try to arrest Paul Lind, say. That's not how it works. This wasn't Iran. We don't do that. We don't have much of a tradition of that in America. We don't really have any tradition of that in America. So what purpose did the laws serve? The purpose that the laws served was to set a standard, even if it was through a legal mechanism that was generally not enforced. And the standards said, not that two fellas can't, you know, have a long handshake every once in a while, or it's not that, you know, Paul Lind can't appear on Hollywood Squares.

A lot of Paul Lind did in the show. It's that we're not going to put up with gay throuples in our newspapers. That's what the law said. That's the purpose of these laws that set standards in norms. It's to say, hey, here is a standard of society. We will tolerate some deviation from it, but make no mistake about the standard. I was talking to Jonathan Peugeot about this some years ago. And he pointed out, you know, weird stuff has always existed in society. We've always had weird stuff. Go look at medieval manuscripts. And in medieval manuscripts, there's all sorts of weird stuff along the edges, gargoyles, and look at cathedrals on cathedrals, on the outside of the cathedrals. There's all this weird stuff, gargoyles and weird little kind of elfish-looking creatures,

and some of them with grotesque features. Even in the manuscript, sometimes they got weird, like, you know, a giant phallus or something like that. And you say, this is really bizarre. Why do they, why, even in the high Middle Ages, you know, the high point of Christendom, Christian culture, why do they have all this weird, debient stuff on the outside? And the reason is, because you don't want it in the center. It's a fallen world. These weird stuff, you know, humans are quirky. But you need to make sure that the weird stuff is considered weird. You don't want the gargoyle with the gigantic phallus and 17 horns in the center of the altar.

That's truly perverted, inverted, even. You keep it kind of on the periphery. That's the purpose of these laws. And right now what we've done, by removing even the nod to standards in this behavior, we have moved that which generally exists on the edge. in the periphery. We've moved it into the center, and it's deeply scandalous, and it screws up our whole culture, and most people don't like it, which is why Republicans campaign so effectively against transing the kids last year. That's Unix, transgenderism, transvestitism. These are issues that we're

always on, they've always been around. They've always been around the periphery. I mean, of goodness sakes, Nero, Emperor Nero castrated one of his slaves and dressed him up to look like the wife that Nero had murdered. and married this boy girl. Which, by the way, that is the example of gay marriage in antiquity. So not like, when people say, gay marriage has been around forever. Yeah, you're pointing to Nero. I wouldn't.

That's not a great example. But even you say transvestitism. Yeah, right, it's a fallen world, man. These things have always been around. It's weird. But you got to kind of keep it on the edges, okay? Not in the Wall Street Journal. Have I made my point understood?

Speaking of the new normal, Rick Wilson, who was some hack, cynical, a Republican campaign operative. You know, just a kind of scummy political creature. Rick Wilson decided that his business was drying up during the Trump era, so he flipped teams. Political hatchet men are not necessarily always known for their loyalty and deep moral principles. So Rick Wilson, he goes on some show, and as we look ahead to the end of President

Trump's second term, after 10 years of Trump's second term, after 10 years of Trump dominating American politics. Ten years to get his act together to take a deep breath. This is what Rick Wilson had to say about Trump. My better angels when Trump dies are going to be out on the street setting off fireworks. It's going to sound like a Baghdad wedding around here. He deserves nothing but our hatred, our loathing, our approbation, our dismissal. Donald Trump's grave will wreak of ammonia for a million years.

He is the most hated president in our lifetimes. His cult is intense but shrinking every day. But I promise you, karma is a magnificent, sculpted bitch. And Donald, she will roll around someday. Inshallah someday sooner than later. And as you pass down into the gates of hell, the last sound you'll hear is the laughter and cheering of Americans as you disappear from this world.

Do you feel better, buddy? Do you feel good? Oh, good. I'm glad you got that off your chest. Who talks like this? Who talks like this? It was poorly written, first of all. You can tell he wrote that one up.

He thought, oh, that'll really get them. Ha, ha, ha, yes. But who talks like this, whether it's spontaneous, whether it's extemporaneous, or whether it's pre-written? who talks like this? Yes. Ha ha ha, yes.

You'll die and I'll be so happy when you die and then I'll celebrate you. He says, Trump's the least popular president in however many years. President Trump is the first Republican to win the popular vote in 20 years. President Trump built a new coalition in American politics that won increasing numbers of black people and Hispanic people and 46% of the people. and 46% of the Hispanic vote of women, of even women under the age of 30, 140% of them. This is an inclusive coalition. They'll be so happy when you die and I'll be happy when you die. And I'm reminded that the fruits of the spirit are an important measure of people.

On the left or on the right, people who say that they're religious, people who are openly irreligious, really this cuts across the board. when you have people using vile language, you know, I tried not to go blue on this show. Occasionally a word slips out here or there, but I try not to go blue. Because it's not good to do that. And it's bad, and it makes you worse when you do that too much.

And I don't know, when you see someone using vile, vulgar language, constantly vituperative, always, you know, an abundance of invective, how many kind of silly, multisyllabic words can I use in this description? It's a bad sign. it says that maybe something's gone a little bit rotten in that person and maybe that person rather than focusing their animus on some outside object or person maybe ought to I don't know go to confession I don't know maybe ought to have a little introspection maybe pray maybe take stock of oneself it's not just on the left I see it on the right too but it's not good you no one listens

to that guy and says ah yes this is a serious balanced person whose views I should consider I don't think so By the way, before we go, because I know that we've got a lot of great programming for over Christmas and New Year, but it's the last like hard news I'm going to be giving you. Answer Rick Wilson with what Nancy Pelosi just had to say, because looking ahead to 2026, the Democrats are really hopeful that they're going to retake the Congress. And if they retake the Congress, they can impeach Trump for the third time. They're salivating to do so. And here is Nancy Pelosi, who was the Democrat leader in the House for, I think, 246 of America's 250 years. Here is what Nancy Pelosi had to say about impeaching Trump in 26 and 27. Just to make sure I understand you, this should not be the agenda of Democrats for this last year.

If he crosses the border again, but that's not an incidental thing you say, well, we're going to do that. No, there has to be cause. There has to be reason. We had review. This was a very serious historic thing. And our founders knew that there could be a rogue president, and that's why they put impeachment in the Constitution. They didn't know there'd be a rogue president at the same time,

a rogue Senate that didn't have the courage to do the right thing. It was bipartisan in the Senate, but it wasn't enough. USA Today. So, Speaker Pelosi, do you think that Democrats should impeach Donald Trump when they take power? No, he didn't do anything to merit that. You need a legal predicate for impeachment. I've got a rich hearing this from Pelosi now.

She also realizes because they didn't really have a legal predicate last time. I think she just realized this is a political loser. But in any case, however we get it, you heard it straight from the horse's mouth. Is it the horse's mouth, it's at least some part of the horse? You heard it straight from that part of the horse. There is no basis for Democrats to impeach Trump. Okay, that's nice news heading into the new year. Today's Tehe-He, Tuesday.

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