The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1890 - Will The Supreme Court Finally END Transgenderism?

Episode Date: January 14, 2026

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Starting point is 00:01:34 podcaster, author, communicator, broadcaster, campaigner, but a card carrying true, red, Republican, and conservative. I'm sick of the transgender thing. It's ridiculous. Both the ideology and the debate are ridiculous. It is degrading that we as a nation have to be. to talk about this. It is probably a harbinger of our imperial collapse. It is the clearest sign of a decadent society and a darkened intellect that we have ever experienced as a country. And yet, Odi at Amo, I hate and I love, this issue is the greatest gift the Democrats could give to Republicans. It is the issue on which most Americans think that the libs are the craziest. At a time, when Democrats could try to run on health care,
Starting point is 00:02:32 or they could cook up some manipulative narrative on the ice raids, like we're seeing in Minneapolis, or when they could focus on literally anything else other than transgenderism. They return, like Jake Gyllenhaal to Heath Ledger on Brokeback Mountain. They return right back to the trans thing, because it is the tragic culmination, and the most likely downfall of their false ideology.
Starting point is 00:03:01 I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles show. Welcome back to the show. A millennial woman has just admitted something that we all intuited. It affirms something that I have said about the left for many years. It's what the ICE protests are really about. It's not about migrants. It's not even about cops.
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Starting point is 00:05:22 and girls from playing in boys sports, though that one doesn't really matter because boys are stronger than girls. Here is Sam Alito setting up the whole case arguing with or questioning, I suppose I should say, the ACLU attorney. Is it not necessary for there to be for equal protection? purposes, if that is challenged under the Equal Protection Clause, an understanding of what it means to be a boy or a girl or a man or a woman? Yes, Your Honor. And what is that definition for equal protection purposes?
Starting point is 00:05:56 What does it mean to be a boy or a girl or a man or a woman? Sorry, I misunderstood your question. I think that the underlying enactment, whatever it was, the policy, the law, we'd have to have an understanding of how the state or the government was understanding that term to figure out whether or not someone was excluded. We do not have a definition for the court. Well, how can a court determine whether there's discrimination on the basis of sex
Starting point is 00:06:23 without knowing what sex means for equal protection purposes? I think here we just know, we basically know that they've identified pursuant to their own statute. Lindsay qualifies as a birth sex male. And she's being excluded categorically from the women's teams as the statute. So we're taking the statute's definitions
Starting point is 00:06:42 as we find them and we don't dispute them. This is so pathetic. It's really pathetic for the ACLU attorney, but it's so pathetic for our country that this is what the Supreme Court is talking about. What is the definition of a boy or a girl? We are going to collapse. I hope we're not.
Starting point is 00:07:02 I hope Trump and these last 10 years have given a little more juice to the American Empire, but all empires fall. And this is real decadent, depraved. darkened intellect stuff. This is pathetic. The Supreme Court is supposed to be filled with the most intelligent, educated
Starting point is 00:07:20 legal thinkers in the country and really the world. And you got the justice asking this lawyer, a lawyer arguing before the Supreme Court. And it's not even just that they can't define boy or girl or man or woman. That is bad enough. But listen to what
Starting point is 00:07:38 Alito says. He says, okay, so the question is here for equal protection. is there discrimination on the basis of sex? Yes. Okay. So that means that we need a definition of sex of boy, girl, man, woman. Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:55 So what's your definition, ACLU? Oh, uh, uh, we don't have one. What? And Alito, you can almost hear the incredulity in his voice. He goes, you first of all, you just acknowledge. that you need these definitions. And then you admit you don't have the definition. But how can you determine if there is discrimination on the basis of sex
Starting point is 00:08:23 if you don't have a definition of sex? I don't like the ACLU. I think they're awful. But at the very least, I don't care if it's the Church of Satan that's arguing before the Supreme Court. You should have and are expected to have the very best lawyer you can possibly have. and maybe this is the best lawyer they can possibly have. And the problem is there's no argument they can make
Starting point is 00:08:48 because the premise is ridiculous. Unfortunately, we turn to another supposedly conservative justice on the court, Amy Barrett. Amy Barrett, Catholic, conservative. And yet Amy Barrett uses the transgender language completely unironically. You're just drawing the line based on biological sex and saying that trans girls can't be on the girls team in an age group that's prepubescent?
Starting point is 00:09:18 The record in this case does not support the notion that males lack an athletic advantage at six years old. That's about as early as the science goes from what's in the record. And even at that age, males have about a 5% athletic advantage over girls in most situations. So here you have the conservative justice saying, what about the trans girls?
Starting point is 00:09:37 What about elsewhere she uses the phrase cisgender? And she does it more than once. But then, I am among the people on the right who really don't like this when conservatives use the trans language. Because to refer to a trans boy, to refer to cisgender, which as Norm MacDonald said is just a word that's used to marginalize normal people. But to use these words is not merely to be polite or to be nice. It's not even to play 5D chess, you know, to try to grant them some rhetorical, grace so that we can really undermine your argument. To use those words is to grant the argument. To suggest that there is such a thing as a trans girl grants that this is a type of girl and that there's
Starting point is 00:10:23 some other kind of girl. To use the phrase biological male, as many people on the right did, is to grant that there's some kind of non-biological male, which there isn't. To use the phrase cisgender is to grant that there is a transgender, which there isn't. So it's really, really weird. Now, before we beat up on Amy Barrett too much, before we try to read too much into the tea leaves of how she's going to vote, she then does go on to undermine the pro-trans argument. Since trans boys can play on boys' teams, how would we say this discriminates on the basis of transgender status when its effect really only runs towards trans girls and not trans boys? We understand the point, and I think that might be relevant to a, for example, animus point, right? there were not a complete exclusion of transgender people. There was an exclusion of transgender women.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Okay, so this is an important distinction here, and this is lost in a lot of the commentary on this case. If the argument is that these states are discriminating against trans genders, Amy Barrett is saying, well, that's not true. They're only discriminating against trans... It's hard to remember which way it goes. Against trans girls, quote unquote. In other words, boys who say that they're girls. But the states don't really discriminate in the other way.
Starting point is 00:11:43 If a boy wants to go, or if a girl rather wants to say that she's a boy and go join the boys' wrestling team, one, she's not going to get picked. But two, she's going to lose every match because girls are weaker than boys physically. But boys are stronger than girls physically. And so when the boys compete against the girls in the sports, they're going to win most of the time. So she says, the discrimination only affects one group of so-called trans people. which means that the discrimination cannot be on the basis of transgender identity.
Starting point is 00:12:14 It's on the basis of something else, on maybe on real sex, which is actually enshrined in our civil rights law. The notion that we should discriminate on the basis of sex is weirdly kind of enshrined in our civil rights law in order to stop discrimination on the basis of sex. In other words, you don't want girls in, let's say, sports in high schools and colleges. You don't want girls to be discriminated against on the basis of sex when it comes to sports and school.
Starting point is 00:12:44 So we're going to set up girls' sports leagues. But then when the pro-trans people come in and they say we're discriminating on the basis of gender identity, that's why we need boys to play in girls' sports. The conclusion must be that you must discriminate on the basis of sex when it comes to who gets to play in which league. so that you're not discriminating on the basis of sex when it comes to whether or not girls are allowed to have sports leagues. So it's a little bit confusing to say it, but it's not that difficult to think about. You got to pick either the trans or the girls. You have to pick one.
Starting point is 00:13:27 You can privilege one, and then you are necessarily discriminating against the other. And the question is which, if either discrimination, is just. and would seem to most reasonable people, it is just to discriminate against the trans-identifying people because that's not real. So where are we going to end up here? Justice Thomas wraps it up for us. We'll get to that in a moment first, though.
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Starting point is 00:15:10 Download the app or head to Catholicmatch.com and find your forever. Here is what, Justice Thomas said, this little tidbit caught by Roger Severino, says, what remedy are you seeking? That's the question, Clarence Thomas, good, nice, conservative Catholic has for the ACLU lawyer. An innocuous seeming question, what remedy are you seeking? he says Look, you're looking at this case, the states have this rule saying boys can't play in girls sports. What are you seeking?
Starting point is 00:15:44 He says, practically, you would get different treatment based on sex. And so now the plaintiff comes in and he says, well, yeah, I mean, the issue here is that, you know, trans boys or trans girls are not being allowed to fulfill their, I don't know, the treatment and both social and medical that accompanies their gender identity and said, okay, well, here let's drill into a really specific case. A girl who identifies as a boy would be allowed to get drugs to go through male puberty despite being a girl. That's what happens when you're put on the cross-sex hormones. that means that girls who identify as boys would have a right, a constitutional right, according to the gender ideologues, to get this testosterone. But boys who identify as boys would not have a constitutional right to get the testosterone.
Starting point is 00:16:47 You see the brilliance of this very simple observation. If a boy, and actually this relates to an interview, I just did an interview with this looks maxer. clavicular who's been injecting himself with testosterone against his parents' wishes, getting illegally on the internet since he was 14 years old. But that's actually a very telling point because the girl has a right to be injected with the testosterone, but the boy does not. If a boy were to do that, he'd be taking steroids or say, you know, one, the doctor wouldn't do it.
Starting point is 00:17:21 But two, if he were caught doing this, they'd be cheating in the sports. Which is discrimination on the basis of sex. sex. Right? It's not on gender identity, but it is, it is on sex. This is an argument other people have made, but it's really nice to see Thomas bring it up here in the oral arguments. And then I know I said that that was the end of the arguments. And I guess it is, but before we go, I just want you to hear, not quite an argument, I just want you to hear Katanji Jackson, the most recent left-wing justice babbling incoherently. You have the overarching classification, you know, everybody has to be play on the team that is the same as their sex at birth.
Starting point is 00:18:09 But then you have a gender identity definition that is operating within that, meaning a distinction, meaning that for cisgender girls, they can play consistent with their gender identity. For transgender girls, they can't. So I think that, okay, as to the part. I love, I think we are all the West Virginia Solicitor General here, Michael Williams. I think we're all, she goes, yeah, so you have when you're a boy, but you're assigned it at birth, but then meaning you are a baby, but then later, meaning you're a toddler, you have a gender, and there's a gender identity operating, and so meaning you have, uh,
Starting point is 00:18:56 I don't find me the nouns and the verbs. Do they align? Do they, does this sentence scan? If I were in the first grade diagramming sentences, is this English? I don't know. This is the woman who couldn't define what a woman is at her confirmation hearing. And then the solicitor, generally, goes, okay. He's trying to craft a sentence out of the wall of noise that just erupted from Katanji Jackson's mouth.
Starting point is 00:19:26 pretty sad that woman good grief man she has no place on the court and and her defenders say she has two degrees from Harvard and you say uh-huh yeah i think this is more about Harvard than it does about katanji because this lady doesn't understand rudimentary concepts not about the law about reality about language about biology it's that's the whole thing the whole thing man i just i know been culture warriors on the transgender issue. You know, I'm the guy who gave the eradicate speech at CPAC. We've spoken about this a lot. It's the Daily Wire. You know, Matt put out the What is a Woman movie. And we had to focus on it. And it's a big political winner. And I hope the Democrats make us focus on it more because we're going to win 57 states next election. But, man, is this degrading?
Starting point is 00:20:19 This is so degrading. It's so degrading for our country that the left put us in this position. it's so degrading. It's an electoral win for us. So I guess we are where we are. You know, you've got to play the hand you're dealt. But this is so degrading that we have to do that. It does not make one feel all that hopeful for the future of the country other than most people rejected. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Speaking of law enforcement and pretty obvious issues that most people reject, you know, there's been all this talk about the awful terrible ice raids in Minneapolis. list. And then you had that woman who obstructed law enforcement, block traffic, and then drove her SUV into a cop. And then she was shot in the face for it, which is very, it's very sad that she did that. You know, it's sad for her and for her family. You heard her lesbian partner come out and scream, those guns have real bullets. Why do they have real bullets? They didn't know that the guns have bullets in them. She says, this is my fault. I told her to come out here. And she told her to drive into the guy. And drive, baby, drive, drive, drive. And you just feel terrible for for these people. people because of, well, because of the same reason that we were just talking about with the Supreme Court case.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Because they're so divorced from reality that they've allowed their intellects to become so darkened that they don't know guns have bullets in them. And now we're seeing who ICE is arresting in Minneapolis. And they're actually sending more people to go, to go more agents, a thousand more agents to go arrest these guys. You know who that woman, Renee Good, forfeited her life. for? She forfeited her life for child abusers and drug dealers. Here we go. ICE is just releasing the mugshots, alleged drug dealers and child abusers. They released the mugshots of some of the people, 10 of the people that ICE is arresting up there. They are alleged child molesters, drug dealers, you know, pushing poison on kids. That's where the drugs go. That's where it's the stereotype of the
Starting point is 00:22:24 pusher standing by the playground to get a kid hooked. That's who this woman woke up one day and said, you know, I'm going to drive into a cop. I'm effectively going to commit suicide by cop, maybe not intentionally. I'm going to abandon my kid as a result of that. I'm going to break the law. Best case scenario for that woman, she didn't get shot in the face and she'd end up in jail. But anyway, she's abandoning her kid. She's doing reckless stuff. She's breaking the law for what? to stop law enforcement from arresting child rapists and drug, poison peddlers. And even the ones who didn't do that were breaking the law and in this country illegally. It's so sad. Because in her mind, in the minds of these leftists who are out there screeching and obstructing law enforcement,
Starting point is 00:23:17 they're out there protecting, you know, the nice abuela or whatever. There aren't that many abuelas getting right. There's some getting right. You have to. They're here illegally. But that's not really who ICE is going after. They're not going after a beulah. And what's even sadder is you say, well, yes, you know, but look, our Lord, our Lord gave his life for sinners, specifically for sinners, for all of us, but for sinners. You say, yes, that's true. We should, we actually should extend grace even to really bad people. We should pray for really bad people. We should contribute to the common good. for our country, which in part means, you know, sacrificing for bad people. But it's not good for these people to not be arrested.
Starting point is 00:24:05 I mean, this is what Plato writes about in Gorgias. There's been a lot of ink of moral philosophy spilled over this kind of question. Is it better or worse for the person committing bad acts, criminal acts, to punish them? Some people say, they say, well, it's good to let them off the hook. It's not good to let child rapists and drug dealers off the hook. One, it's obviously bad for society, but two, it's bad for them because they're continuing to destroy their own souls. They're continuing to, as they do bad things, they are making their lives worse. And you have women in Minneapolis who are sacrificing their lives to stop a child rapist from getting arrested.
Starting point is 00:24:54 It's so perverse. It's so perverse. Everyone is wrong here. Okay, what is this all really about? A not quite hinged millennial woman has just explained what the ICE protests are really about. And it's not about the illegal aliens and it's not even about law enforcement. It's about something that I love to say I told you. So we'll get to that in a moment. First, I want to tell you about equip foods. Go to equipfoods.com slash Michael Knowles, M-I-C-H-A-E-L-W-L-E-S. New Year's resolutions are tough. Really tough when the New Year's resolution is getting enough clean protein. Most protein bars are loaded with sugar and trash. Ingredients you can't even pronounce. Well, you've heard me talk about our sponsor, Equips, Prime bars in the past. Equip is all about making healthy habits simple and sustainable with their delicious, clean, grass-fed beef prime bar.
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Starting point is 00:27:19 It must provide a recent consumer mobile bill in the name of the person, and conditions and restrictions apply. What are the ice protests about? I will allow a millennial leftist woman to explain. You know one thing that hating men has trained me for? It's literally trained me for chasing ice cars off of my street. Five of them right now. Following down the neighborhood, honking, blowing whistles, telling them that fuck off.
Starting point is 00:27:45 All that rage that I have felt towards men is coming out. I have been trained for this moment. I will follow you everywhere. First thing I noticed. Mr. Davies, are you on the line? Yes, I am. Are you there? Did you notice something?
Starting point is 00:28:02 You know, we did our investigative report, our deep dive. We uncovered some really important facts. Do you notice anything about this video? It is truly one of the most important discoveries that we've made on this show. And yes, it is very prominently featured, right in her septum. there is a direct scientifically proven, I assume peer-reviewed correlation between leftist crazy behavior and women who have nose rings. And not even the side nose ring, which can be kind of cute sometimes. The middle one, the septum, the bull, the demon one.
Starting point is 00:28:42 It's never turned out well. 100% of women, 100% of women who have. have the bull septum nose ring are crazed and certainly politically on the left. It's not that all crazy people are on the left, but all people who are firmly on the left are crazy. It's kind of like a square and a rectangle. And what does she say? She affirms something that I've repeated on the show every four days for years at this point, maybe. Liberalism comes down to three words and it's screw you dead.
Starting point is 00:29:14 She says, something that hating men. for so long has trained me in, is to go beat up ice agents, go drive my SUV into ice agents. That's, this is the secret. I don't engage in a ton of psychobabble. I don't, but in this is what it's about. And there is actually a whole genre. I wish we had that maybe in post-production, we can pull the images being generated of romance novels. This is about, this is mid-millennial, elder millennial younger Gen X women fantasizing about big strong guys ordering them around. That's what, there is deep stuff going on. There is one I saw detained by desire.
Starting point is 00:29:57 It's one of these women at her window just really getting sassy with an ice age and just daring him to, you know, drag her out of the car. That's what this is about. That's what it's all about. I hate men. Why do I hate men? Because I hate my dad. Why do I hate my dad? Because I hate my authority. Ultimately, I hate my heavenly dad. That's what this comes down to. And I hate the moral strictures and the moral norms that come with this. I hate the limitations that have been imposed on me, not only by my sex, but by my human nature. And I seek maximum individual autonomy, a liberation,
Starting point is 00:30:38 not merely from unjust strictures, which we all seek, but not just not liberation from sin, which we should all seek, but not liberation from addiction and vice, which we should all seek, but liberation from my very constituent parts, the things that make me who I am. Liberation, a deeply wicked liberation, the kind of liberation that tends one toward assisted suicide, liberation even from what makes me me,
Starting point is 00:31:07 liberation from religion, liberation from my child through abortion, liberation from my country, through, I don't know, either fleeing the country or tearing down the government, tearing down the borders. That's what it's about. That's a secret. These women, they got problems, and they need husbands. And they need good husbands. They can't have, you know, schmucky, loser husbands. So it's not that men totally get off the hook, but they need husbands. It is a them problem, primarily. You know, men, men have other problems. Men got to, you know, they got to get their act together. But this is a, this is a woman problem. For sure. It's not, I should just keep doing. Well, that's what they're doing. The administration is sending another thousand agents.
Starting point is 00:31:52 These protests are like 3% about the illegal aliens. I'm increasingly convinced it's not even really about abuela. There's other stuff going on. There's other stuff going on here. Okay. That woman persuaded me. Speaking of persuasion, sad story, though not unexpected, Scott Adams has died. Scott, and actually, wow, coincidental, providential. I was just talking about assisted suicide. And this comes into the story, because Scott Adams did not kill himself. Jeffrey Epstein probably didn't kill himself. And Scott Adams didn't kill himself. Scott Adams was the cartoonist behind Dilbert, a huge phenomenon. I actually got nostalgic. I was going through old Dilbert comic strips yesterday. I don't know, it reminds me being at my father's house or
Starting point is 00:32:38 something. I don't know. It reminds me being a kid. And I was, I was, I was kind of nostalgic. I said, this was such a phenomenon. And then he parlayed that into a career as a writer of advice, self-help, persuasion. He became a really incisive political commentator, one of the first guys to point out that Trump was not just like a big dummy saying big dummy things, but that Trump was actually extremely persuasive. And this really tuned me into Scott Adams, because early on, I too thought, you know, this Trump, everyone's saying he's dumb or loose with his language, but I think he's got real poetic diction. I think he's using a language very carefully. And Scott could explain in much more precise terms, or much more expansive terms, I should say,
Starting point is 00:33:23 what was really going on. So anyway, he was just a really delightful figure in American public life. And he didn't kill himself. But he thought about it. And in fact, he talked about this on his show. In California, you have the right to end your own existence. If you have a terminal illness and get a couple of doctors to certify it and all that. And I was in that situation, meaning that I'm officially terminal. I've got two doctors to certify it.
Starting point is 00:33:59 I've done the paperwork. I've even ordered the medicine that you eventually drink to end your life. I had sort of internally planned, but wasn't telling the world, that I needed to get past my step-noter's wedding and reception. And then to end my life, guess when? Basically today. Today was the day. I was planning literally to take my own life today.
Starting point is 00:34:36 That was back in June. He died yesterday. So obviously he didn't take his own life. And you can hear him laugh even. He says, and I got the medicine. Not medicine. If something kills you, it's not medicine. But he was for it.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Not only was he open to assisted suicide. he was vociferously in favor of it. Scott Adams is going back to 2013. After his dad died, I guess his dad was in a lot of pain as he was dying, Scott Adams took to the Libertarian magazine reason to defend assisted suicide and inveigh against those who oppose it politically. He said, I'm okay with any citizen who opposes Dr. Assisted suicide on Moral or Practical rounds. But if you have acted on that thought, such as basing a vote on it,
Starting point is 00:35:23 I would like you to die a slow, horrible death too. He says, look, you can have your own moral reservations, but don't do anything about it. Don't actually act on it. We need assisted suicide. I am, you know, he's just coming off this difficult situation, which many people have faced, watching a loved one die. And he came to, at that time, the wrong conclusion. He said, we need assisted suicide.
Starting point is 00:35:47 You and the government are accomplices in the torturing of my father. There's a good chance you'll someday be accomplices in torturing me to death too. Wow. And then he changed his mind. Why? Well, as he wrote and as he said in interviews with guys like Greg Gutfeld and others, he said, it was only long after he had committed to the process of killing himself with the approval, with the scandalous, evil approval of doctors in the government, my commentary, not his words,
Starting point is 00:36:19 that he realized it would be more complicated. It's not like you just take the pill and then the lights go off. if you don't vomit the poison up right away, it could put you to sleep, and then that process of your dying could take hours, and then your poor family not only has to endure the scandal of watching a loved one kill himself, the sort of thing that is much more likely to persuade,
Starting point is 00:36:42 to persuade the people, the loved ones around you, to kill themselves. Suicide is a social contagion, long documented. But they have to keep checking this, is he dead yet? Is he dead yet? that process itself is a kind of a torture. You're transferring the supposed torture from the person dying, which is, you know, we all die,
Starting point is 00:37:01 to the loved ones because of a personal choice. The process is described as being akin to drowning. And what Scott Adams then said to Drew Pinsky, Dr. Drew and Greg Gutfeld is, quote, it's not as cool as I thought it would be, which is kind of delightful, happy Scott Adams' diction. And the amazing irony, if you've followed Scott's position on assisted suicide for over 10 years now, is instead of killing himself, instead of scandalizing the whole world that loved him, Scott offered us one of the best examples of dying well that we have seen in our lifetimes. that's an amazing irony in the grand scope of providence he was calm
Starting point is 00:37:54 he was loving he did not hide it you know we hide away our dead and dying we stick them in centers and try to forget about them we don't like to see death we don't really do long funerals anymore we don't do long wakes we don't we do we try to get people in the ground as fast as possible get it out of our heads maybe we do a celebration of life later on but we don't like we don't like to think about death We want death to be fast. In the Middle Ages, a good death was understood as being one where you knew you were dying. You could get your affairs in order. You could think about what happens next. This is what Scott did. Scott said, look, I'm not a believer, but I'm persuaded by Pascal's wager and my loving Christian friends really, they've persuaded me. So you know what I'm going to say, I don't, look, I'm being honest. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie to you, God. I don't really believe, but I accept Jesus. I accept Jesus. I want to spend eternity with Jesus. I want to spend eternity with Jesus. I
Starting point is 00:38:47 want to believe, is what he said, I want to believe. Okay? And so, and if I wake up in heaven, that'll convince me. And there are all ways to parse the theology of that. However, something that gives me some hope is, it's very childlike. It's a very childlike approach to say, look, I'm dying. I'm not invaying against you. A lot of people as they die, they invade against God, the supposed unfairness of our death. And he says, look, we're all going to die. This is what happens. This is what I deserve for being a human, you know. That's what we get. But I want to believe.
Starting point is 00:39:21 I've never been a believer, but I'm not going to pretend to be one now exactly, but I'm persuaded that I'd like to spend eternity with Jesus. I'd like to. I'd like to. Isn't that childlike? You know, and our Lord tells us you have to be like a child to enter the kingdom of heaven. Not childish.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Childish is when you have all the bad characteristics of kids, when you're an overgrown little bratty kid. That's what you're seeing in the protests in the streets. Childlike is good. should be childlike. It's having a humility. It's having a kind of an innocence, looking at the world with awe and wonder. He did that. And he he could have scandalized the world. He could have killed himself. And a lot of people who look up to him as their internet dad would have been scandalized by that. And instead,
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Starting point is 00:41:19 I didn't totally do this intentionally. This is from Mrs. Old McDonald who says, when I left witchcraft and converted to Catholicism, I realized everything I had been practicing was a direct inversion of every aspect of true religion. Yeah, that's how it works, because the devil doesn't create. So it's always just a perversion or an inversion of the real thing. Reality, which is made by God. You see that in politics.
Starting point is 00:41:43 You know, liberalism especially is just a, of, very serious perversion, if not an outright inversion of Christianity, of Christendom. So it goes, because they can't make anything. Folks, tonight, very excited. We are back with another live taping of Bar Fight. We have two shows, his DW wants to save on production costs. The first show is 6 p.m. I take the stage with featured Libs, Oliver Nehouse and the soy pill.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Then at 8 p.m., things get spicy with Adam Mockler and Lauren Perretra. Two debates, two time slots, one night, free drinks. If you like watching people actually argue, instead of just nodding politely at each other or screaming and biting each other's heads off, if that is the case, you've got to come check out bar fight. If you haven't seen a bar fight episode, take a look at what to expect.
Starting point is 00:42:32 I thought, I'm sick and tired for you. Let me finish. You had a monologue already. I tell people that Michael Knowles is my internet dad. Stop it. We've got a bar full of people. And you want us to debate HOA's. Because this is America.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Welcome to Bar Fight. Tonight I'm joined by two libs. That's my case. I think it's a pretty good one. My first guest, that is Zena Ikemek. You've been calling me a lib this whole time. I hate to break it to you. It might be a little bit worse than that.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Just be consistent. I've been very consistent. Luke gets to finish his point. I think this bell's rig. My second guest is one of the top names in online liberal commentary today. Luke Beasley. We'll see you tonight at Bar Fight. Make sure you're RSVP by clicking the link in the description.
Starting point is 00:43:29 How did the New York Times react to Scott Adams' death? Scott Adams, whose comic strip Dilbert was a sensation until he made racist comments on his podcast, has died at 68. Boston Globe almost the same thing. Racist, disgrace, terrible, evil, awful cartoonist, Scott Adams dies. This is what they do. I mean, look. We're talking about the political left which celebrated the assassination of Charlie Kirk. So, yeah, when a prominent right winger dies, they're going to find some way to attack him, even in his death. They're going to do it to Charlie. They're going to do it to anybody. They'll celebrate your death.
Starting point is 00:44:13 That's a hard thing. That's a hard thing to conclude. It's deeply unpleasant if you like to think, you know, look, we're all one country and we have no enemies, only opponents. And it's sad to conclude that they'll celebrate your death. When that lady in Minneapolis died, deservedly, because she drove her car into a cop, you really didn't see people on the right celebrating. What you heard was what you heard on my show, and you heard that from most people, I think, on the right, which is this is very sad. The cop was entirely in the right, the lady was entirely in the wrong.
Starting point is 00:44:48 She is entirely responsible for her own death. I wouldn't have changed a thing if I were the cop, but it's sad. It's sad that this happened for this woman's family. It's sad for her. You don't hear that in the other direction. You hear, I hope this person dies. I hope he, I hope Trump dies. I hope that it's good that Charlie died. It's good, good, good, good, good. If only that guy hadn't missed him Butler, Pennsylvania, that's what you hear. And this is back, it's not just anecdotal. This is backed up by social scientific surveys, the left supporting political violence much more, all the rest of it. Boston Globe, did the same thing. Just a little correction here, though. What did Scott Adams say? The one thing,
Starting point is 00:45:26 other, he endorsed Trump, that was really what was unforgivable, but the one thing that Scott Adams said that was beyond the pale that led to the cancellation of Dilbert and newspapers and all the rest, he was reading a survey, a social scientific survey, which showed that about half of black people did not agree with the statement, it's okay to be white. That was, now, I haven't looked at that survey. I'm just telling you what he said. And his conclusion from that was, hold on, man, if half of this group of people, if half of any group of people doesn't think it's okay for me to be a white person, just okay to like be a white person, then I don't want to be near those people.
Starting point is 00:46:07 That's all he said. That was his comment. I guess it's provocative. I guess it's spicy. I guess it's based on underlying social scientific data, which could be disputed. I guess maybe. I don't know. But that's all he said.
Starting point is 00:46:20 for that, which I think, you know, if you were kind of neutral about which group was which, and if you substituted them out, and I think everyone would basically agree with, for that, it's, yeah, racist cartoonist is dead. Yeah, read all about it. Yeah, that awful racist is dead. That's what they do? I don't think so. I don't think that sums up Scott Adams' life. But then again, I don't believe most of what I read in the New York Times. Okay. Speaking of journalism, before we go, pretty crazy story. James O'Keefe has just nabbed in another undercover investigation,
Starting point is 00:47:04 a U.S. Secret Service agent spilling security info about the vice president. Can I see your badge again with your photo? You're so cute. A current Secret Service agent on Vice President J.D. Vance's security detail. When he's like walking, like where are you? We'll have a lease. I'm in the . Gives away vital, high-level security information to our undercover journalists.
Starting point is 00:47:35 We have different shirts. We have a . Shiff, a . Tells her about detailed future travel plans for the vice president and even sends her pictures with location of data revealing where the president's convoy was located, potentially violating both the Secret Service NDA and United States federal law. And Tomas is fully aware of this, quote, I signed paperwork, so if I don't have to get
Starting point is 00:48:00 out information, I never do, otherwise I get in trouble. You really have to stand in awe of the lack of self-awareness. There ain't a secret about what we do. Tomas Eskato also reveals that he voted for Biden and that he hates Trump and Vance's immigration. policies. Did you vote for Biden? Yes. What do you think about like all the ice stuff going on? Yeah. Employing taxes. I shouldn't pay for it. Wow, man, this is bad. Now, sometimes James, look, I like James O'Keevall. Sometimes he oversells the significance of the undercover stories. A lot of times what he gets is totally
Starting point is 00:48:42 explosive. This is in the explosive category. This is crazy. Okay. This is, I'm not being sensationalist here. I'm not just carrying water for James because I like him. This is crazy. You had a president of the United States come within one 20th of an inch of hanging his brains blown out. Then there was another assassination attempt on him shortly thereafter. You have people already saying J.D. Vance as the presumptive 28 nominee is, is worse actually than Trump. And you got a Secret Service agent just giving out these kinds of details, given out photos with metadata, given out, given out timing location to random chicks on dates. People are going to focus on the partisan aspect here. They're going to say, this guy voted for Biden. We need to root out all the Democrats in the
Starting point is 00:49:32 Secret Service. First of all, there are Democrats in the Secret Service. It's a police force. You're not going to discriminate exactly based on partisanship. In my experience, I know a number of guys in Secret Service. In my experience, most of the guys in the Secret Service tend to be on the other side of the aisle. And we don't want them to all to get fired when there's a Democrat in charge. I mean, then there wouldn't be a Secret Service, actually. But I don't think this is partisan, really. I'm not even sure I believe that he voted for Biden.
Starting point is 00:50:01 He might just be trying to impress this girl. Sometimes guys, I don't know. been a while since I've been in the dating pool, but sometimes guys, they'll kind of downplay their right-wing politics if they're trying to riz up some lib chick. It's not a good idea in the long run, but it happens. The real issue here is not partisanship or ideology. It's competence. It's actually what we're talking about at the very top of the show. The trans case at the Supreme Court is really embarrassing because of how crazy the ideology is. But it's also embarrassing because it's just so degrading.
Starting point is 00:50:38 It's degrading to have someone like Katanji Jackson on the Supreme Court, someone who can't define what a woman is. It's degrading for Harvard University that she has two degrees from there. It's degrading that this is the kind of thing we're talking about. It's degrading that the ACLU attorney can't anticipate the most obvious questions coming from the conservative justices. It's degrading that the secret. service would make such an egregious error, an extremely dangerous error, an error that could
Starting point is 00:51:13 imperil the life of the vice president. But it's, we tend to think of politics and whether or not America will succeed in the future or fail in purely ideological terms. We just need to make sure that the right wingers get in there, not the left wingers. That's important. That is very important. But there's another access. You have the ideological access, and then you've got the competence axis. And it doesn't matter if you have people with the perfect ideology or political priors. If they're not able to do the job, if they're like big dummies who don't have any skills, you're going to fail as a country. We need competence. This is just completely unacceptable. especially right now the country is too volatile.
Starting point is 00:52:06 We feel like we're on the brink of a civil war. We are too volatile for this kind of incompetence from any law enforcement agency, certainly one that is tasked with protecting the president and the vice president. Okay, today is work from home Wednesday. I've redone woke Wednesday. I hate woke Wednesday. Today is work from home Wednesday.
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Starting point is 00:53:38 They say he slew hundreds. Hundreds do you hear that the world burned and trembled at his wrath. And died long before you and I were born. Merlin Emress has returned to the land of the living. Fortigan is gone, Rome is gone. The Saxon is here. Saxon Hengist has assembled the greatest war host ever seen in the island of the mighty. And before the summer is through, he means to take the throne.
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Starting point is 00:54:43 Men of the island of the mighty! You stand together! You stand as Britons! You stand as worn. The great darkness is falling upon this land. These brothers are our only hope to stand against it. Not our only hope. S.A. Mervyn slew 17 men with his own hands.
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