The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1942 - JD Vance Thinks Aliens Are Demons: I Told You So

Episode Date: March 30, 2026

Israeli police ban the Latin Patriarch from the Church of the Holy Sepulchre on Palm Sunday, JD Vance says he thinks UFOs are demons, and Muslims martyr atleast 10 Christians in Nigeria. Ep. 1942 ... - - - Click here to join the member-exclusive portion of my show: https://get.dailywire.com - - - Today's Sponsors: Keksi Cookies - Go to https://Keksi.com and use code KNOWLES for 15% off your entire order. PreBorn! - Make a difference for generations to come. Donate securely online at https://preborn.com/KNOWLES or dial #250 keyword 'BABY' Toothpillow - Go to https://toothpillow.com and use code KNOWLES to get your kid assessed for free. - - - DailyWire+: Become a Daily Wire Member and watch all of our content ad-free: https://dailywire.com/subscribe 📲 Download the free Daily Wire app today on iPhone, Android, Roku, Apple TV, Samsung, and more. 📘 My book "Speechless: Controlling Words, Controlling Minds" is available here: https://dwplus.shop/Speechless 🕯️ Get your Michael Knowles candles: https://thecandleclub.com/collections/michael-knowles 👕 Don’t dress like a squish. Shop my merch here: https://dwplus.shop/MichaelKnowlesMerch - - - Socials: Follow on Twitter: https://bit.ly/3RwKpq6 Follow on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3BqZLXA Follow on Facebook: https://bit.ly/3eEmwyg Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3L273Ek - - - Privacy Policy: https://www.dailywire.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:27 taxes and fees extra, default terms at Mintmobile.com. An international incident breaks out when the top bishop in Jerusalem is barred from the Church of the Holy Sepulcher to kick off Holy Week. Then, Jimmy Kimmel attacks President Trump by mocking blue-collar workers. It's a bold strategy for the Democrats. We'll see how it plays out. And finally, oh, boy, this one, this is a tasty one. You know you have become accustomed over many years to how much I hate to say I told you so. The vice president has acknowledged that UFOs are most likely demons.
Starting point is 00:01:05 So, you know, we'll get to it. Happy Holy Week. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles show. Welcome back to the show. An amazing no-kings protest this past weekend. You have Tim Walz, the old knucklehead from Minnesota, promising never to leave the side of the Somalis, the criminals who've defrauded the Minnesota taxpayer. You have Maisie Hirono, the senator from Hawaii.
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Starting point is 00:03:13 flavors before they change. Go to kexie.com. K-E-K-S-I-com. Use code Nolesk-W-L-E-L-S for 15% off your entire order. That is a great way to welcome them to the show and treat yourself to something better. Right off the top, because I just can't resist. I can't delay it any further. The vice president just appeared on Benny Johnson's show. Benny hit him with the real questions. I mean that. Some people are making fun of this question from Benny. I love this question. They said, why don't you talk about taxes or Iran or whatever? Yeah, it's a long interview. He talks about a lot of stuff. But this is the one I want to hear. hear about. Benny Johnson asks the vice president of the United States, who I will remind you,
Starting point is 00:03:57 is extremely intelligent, extremely well educated, extremely normal guy, one of the most powerful men in the country, heartbeat away from the presidency. He asks him about the true nature of UFOs. Matt Walsh and I both just clenching our fists, gritting our teeth, waiting for the answer. Who's going to be right? Is it going to be Walsh? Who says, that there is such a thing as E.T., little weird green aliens flying around the universe? Or is it going to be, you boy?
Starting point is 00:04:29 Is it going to be Michael, who says that there's no such thing as E.T. And actually, the UFOs are more likely demons. Mr. Vice President, I defer to you. You're going to release all the UFO files? We're working on it. It's funny. When I came in, I was obsessed with the UFO files,
Starting point is 00:04:46 and then you start getting really busy, worrying about the economy and national security and things like that. but I've still got three more years as vice president. I will get to the bottom of the UFO files. Have you, have you peaked? Have you done a peak? Have I what?
Starting point is 00:04:57 Have you done a peek? Have you like, you know? So I actually haven't. I have not. I have not been able to spend enough time on this to really understand it. But I am going to, trust me. I'm obsessed with this. I've already had a couple of times where I'm like, all right, we're going to area 51.
Starting point is 00:05:14 We're going out to New Mexico. We're going to sort of get to the bottom of this. And then the timing of the trip just didn't work out. But trust me, anybody who's curious about this, I'm more curious than anybody. And I've got three years of the very tippy top of the classification. I'm going to get to the bottom of it. Okay. So you haven't been to Area 51 yet.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Not yet. Some people say they keep the UFOs in Ohio. Yeah. Hangary 18. I've heard that as well. But I don't know. I haven't looked into it yet. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:41 All right. All right. Well, we're waiting for it. We saw aliens. We saw aliens.gov. I don't think they're aliens. I think they're aliens. I think they're demons anyway, but that's a longer discussion.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Well, I can't let you go. Should I just end the show right now? Like forever? Should I just, can we, has anyone ever been more vindicated? Then I hate, no, look, I hate to say I told you so, so I won't belabor the point. But all joking aside, this guy gets it.
Starting point is 00:06:08 We joke about it. It's a little funny running joke at the Daily Wire. Walsh is really into aliens. I think aliens are totally fake. And then we talk about what these things could be are people having hallucinations, are there alien craft that are alien meaning from China, you know, like illegal aliens or alien nations? Are they, you know, is this military equipment from our own military?
Starting point is 00:06:30 Or is there something spiritual going on? And beyond all the jokes, I do think that there is such a thing as spiritual reality. I do think that there's such a thing as immaterial reality. Virtually everyone for all of history everywhere has agreed with that. And so the vice president, beyond a little bit of joking, Benny presses him, and he explains what he means. Well, look, I think that celestial beings who fly around, who do weird things to people, I think that the desire to describe everything celestial, everything is otherworldly,
Starting point is 00:07:10 to describe it as aliens, I mean, every great world religion, including Christianity, the one that I believe in has understood that there are weird things out. there. And there are things that are very difficult to explain. And I naturally go, when I hear about sort of extra natural phenomenon, that's where I go to is the Christian understanding that, you know, there's a lot of good out there, but there's also some evil out there. And I think that one of the devil's great tricks is to convince people we never existed. Love this. So people are going to try to say that Vance is being kooky or weird or dumb or something by suggesting that there's such a thing is demons and angels. But what does he do at the very end there? He's quoting Baudelaire,
Starting point is 00:07:52 Baudelaire, who says the finest trick of the devil is to persuade people that he doesn't exist, which has been reiterated in all sorts of different popular media over the years. What Vance is saying is that there is such a thing as spiritual reality, immaterial reality, which we all know. Actually, that's not true. A lot of people don't know that, because they just haven't thought deeply enough about it. But anyone who has two brain cells to rub together and who has thought about this question knows that there is such a thing as spiritual reality. There's such a thing as immaterial reality at the very least. For instance, our intellects or mathematics or, I don't know, universals, the concept of justice. Need I go on, we would be here
Starting point is 00:08:31 forever. There are physical things. It's like, you know, my tumbler here, my microphone, my delicious cigars, but there are immaterial things as well. And we in part have an immaterial aspect because we have an intellect which can receive universals immaterial substances. So that's just a fact. And the reality is that unless the aircraft that people are seeing are from China or DARPA or something like that, the odds that they are demons or angels are much greater than the odds that these are ET, just because of distances. The distances between stars and galaxies are simply too great and there are limitations to the physical world like the speed of light. The odds are great. And really, not to put too fine a point on it, but just to conclude,
Starting point is 00:09:17 this interview from Vance reminds me of one of my favorite interviews from any politician. It was Scalia back in 2013, where Scalia, I've mentioned it on the show many times. Scalia was doing an interview with New York Magazine, some Lib No Nothing reporter. And she was asking him something about hell or punishment. And she said, you believe in hell? And he said, yeah. He goes, well, it must be awful scary to believe in hell. and Scalia says, you're looking at me like I'm weird.
Starting point is 00:09:47 He says, in a theatrical whisper, he says, you know, I even believe in the devil. She says, boy, oh, boy, howdy, you know, that must be spooky. And he says, you know, you're condescending to me right now and you're looking at me like I'm weird. Do you realize how out of touch you are with most Americans? Do you realize how out of touch you are with virtually every intelligent person through all of history, virtually every person through all of history, all of whom have believed in the devil? Then he says the killer line, which should be applied to anyone who's criticizing J.D. Vance over this. He says, many more intelligent people than you or I have believed in the devil. J.D. Vance believes in demons. Let me tell you something. Many more intelligent people than you,
Starting point is 00:10:30 or I, or J.D. Vance, for that matter, have believed in demons. Absolutely right. And the alien thing is just simply bunk. Sorry, it is. Okay, speaking of religion, major international incident yesterday, got everybody chattering on the brink of Holy Week. The headline that caused truly a global uproar is that the government of Israel prohibited the top bishop in Jerusalem, Cardinal Pete Sabala, he's the Latin patriarch of Jerusalem, from entering the Church of the Holy Sepulchre on Palm Sunday. Palm Sunday is the day when Christ enters as a king into Jerusalem, it kicks off the beginning of Holy Week, which will end with the crucifixion on Good Friday, followed by Holy Saturday, and obviously followed by the resurrection on Easter Sunday.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Major outcry that this was a Christian persecution by the Israeli government. Then you had ardent, I won't even just say regular pro-Israel people, but ardently, zealously, perhaps unreasonably pro-Israel people who were attacking the Cardinal, It was a whole mess. We will get to exactly what happened because the funny story about this is everyone involved was much more reasonable than any of the cheerleaders or critics online were. We'll get to that momentarily. First, I want to tell you about preborn.
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Starting point is 00:13:12 for Pope at the last conclave, Cardinal Pizabala, who's the Latin patriarch of Jerusalem, he has one of the most difficult jobs in the world. He went to hold a private mass at the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, which is where Jesus was entombed. And he didn't bring a ton of people with him. This was not a major public event, but he was going there with a small number of people to save private mass to continue the very longstanding tradition of a mass on Palm Sunday. So he recognized that sometimes there are security precautions, be they for public health, be they because of times of war, but this was a small number of people and the Israeli police told him no.
Starting point is 00:13:54 And they turned the Latin patriarch of Jerusalem away from Jesus' tomb on the first stay of Holy Week. So right off the bat, it should be said, I totally understand the Israeli government's security concerns. I get it. I appreciate it. I also recognize that the Israeli government closed down all the holy sites. So it wasn't particularly anti-Christian discrimination. They closed down other holy sites too. I understand and acknowledge all of that. That government has no right whatsoever to ban the Latin patriarch of Jerusalem from the Church of the Holy Sepulch, ever on any occasion, much less Palm Sunday. This was an egregious fumble by the Israeli government.
Starting point is 00:14:46 And everybody agreed with that. Everybody agreed. This was not just people who don't like Israel. This was not just Catholics. This was not. Mike Huckabee, who is as pro-Israel as any human beings ever. been, including Theodore Hurtzell. Okay. Mike Huckabee loves Israel, not Catholic, is a Southern Baptist.
Starting point is 00:15:08 He issues this statement. He's obviously the U.S. ambassador to Israel. He says, while all holy sites in the old city are closed due to safety concerns for mass gatherings, including the Western Wall, Church of the Holy Sepulchre and Alaksa Mosque, the action today by the Israel National Police to deny Latin Patriarch Cardinal Pierre Batista Pizabala and three other priests from entering the church to offer a blessing on Palm Sunday. is an unfortunate overreach, already having major repercussions around the world. Home front command guidelines restrict any gatherings to 50 people or less.
Starting point is 00:15:38 The four representatives of the Catholic Church were well below that restriction. Statements from the government of Israel indicate the action to prohibit Cardinal Pizza Bala entry to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre were for safety reasons, but churches, synagogues, and mosques throughout Jerusalem have met with the restrictions of 50 or less. For the patriarch to be barred from entry to the church on Palm Sunday for a private ceremony is difficult to understand or justify. Israel has indicated it will work with the patriarch to accommodate a safe means of carrying out holy weak activities. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:07 This Mike Huckabee is a really nice guy and he's very, very pro-Israel and he's very diplomatic. This is as tough a statement as you are ever going to get, saying the Israeli government just blew it here. Followed up by the most pro-Israel person in the United States. Senate. Self-defined that way. My friend Senator Ted Cruz, also not Catholic, he's a Southern Baptist, comes out, he says, Ambassador Huckabee is correct. This was a mistake by the Israeli police. The security concerns are real, but they should not have prevented the patriarch from entering the Church of Holy Sepulchre to conduct the Palm Sunday blessing. I trust this mistake will be corrected quickly. Beyond just these two American politicians, do you know who else agrees with me?
Starting point is 00:16:56 and Huckabee and Cruz and the Latin Patriarch and Catholics around the world, Christians around the world, the heads of state around the world. Do you know who else agrees? Benjamin Netanyahu. And Isaac Herzog. So you had the president of Israel and the prime minister of Israel coming out successively throughout the day and saying, hey, yeah, we blew it. Here's the comment from Netanyahu, who's the most powerful guy in Israel. I have instructed the relevant authorities that Cardinal Pisa Piazza Pizabala, the Latin patriarch, be granted full and immediate access to the Church of Holy Sepulchur. Over the past few days, Iran has repeatedly targeted the holy sites of all three monotheistic religions in Jerusalem with ballistic missiles.
Starting point is 00:17:38 In one-strike missile fragments crashed meters from the Church of the Holy Sepulchur. That's true. To protect worshippers, Israel asked members of all faiths to temporarily abstain from worshipping at the holy sites. Today, out of special concern for his safety, Cardinal Pizabala was asked to refrain from holding mass. Even though I understand this concern as soon as I learned about the incident with Cardinal Pizabala, I instructed the authorities to enable the patriarch to hold services as he wishes. Okay. Good. I'm glad. Huge mistake. We don't know how high the mistake went up. Some people are saying, oh, it was just a rogue cop who didn't know what he was doing. Some were saying it was more of a
Starting point is 00:18:11 decision from the Israeli government proper. Some are saying that Cardinal Pizabala had been notified the day before, which makes this much, much worse, because it means that this was a premeditated decision by the Israeli government, which is a huge error. Some say that wasn't happening. Who knows? Fog of war, when it comes to the Middle East, Israel and the surrounding region, it's just propaganda all around. But you know, what I do know is that the Cardinal, the patriarch, came out and made this extremely diplomatic and conciliatory statement. It's true that the police had said that the ordnions of the Homefront Command. It's true there were these orders from the command.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Yes, so they were prohibiting it from the places of worship that didn't have a bomb shelter. But we didn't request a public celebration, just a small private ceremony. to keep up the tradition of all of it. There's been not quite. We're not quite not quite that's what happened.
Starting point is 00:19:19 It's not it's not it's too bad that this happened. It's too bad that this happened. It's not been done in a much I don't want to force the hand.
Starting point is 00:19:31 But I don't want to force the hand. We can use this situation to see the situation. We can use the situation. to figure out how to make clear that we need to respect security concerns but also the right to prayer. Okay, a beautiful response. And so what I notice about this incident, which dominated the headlines yesterday, everybody was talking about it, is that the actual people involved were much more reasonable than the partisans who are just propagandists online.
Starting point is 00:20:03 This was, there is no question whatsoever. This was a major error. by the government of Israel. Everyone agrees with that. Huckabee, Cruz, the Catholic Church, Netanyahu, and Herzog themselves. Everybody agrees. If you disagree with that, you are a kook. You are just not worth listening to. Not to put too fine a point on it.
Starting point is 00:20:28 But when the Israeli government, the Catholic Church, the evangelicals and the American government all agree on something and you're on the opposite side of that, I don't know. That is not a real opinion. That is not a serious opinion. So you all agree, an error occurred. And then what happened? The prime minister of Israel said, yeah, shouldn't have happened. We're letting him back into the Holy Sepulchre.
Starting point is 00:20:49 And the patriarch says, yeah, this shouldn't have happened. It's, you know, it's unfortunate, but this can be a good opportunity to figure out how to balance security with the right to prayer. I don't want to push the issue. I don't want to force anyone's hand. Good. All is well that ends well. Good. This is the way it should be.
Starting point is 00:21:04 A nice response. I mean, some people, the, the, it's. My favorite thing about this whole incident, looking at the silver lining in the storm cloud, is it really showed who just the most rank propagandists are. Because some people came out, they started attacking Pizza Bala. They started attacking this cardinal. This cardinal, they called him a terrorist sympathizer. I mean, just ridiculous nonsense. This is a great man.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Just to give you one example, during the Gaza war, this man offered himself in exchange for the Israeli hostages. He offered himself to Hamas in exchange for the release of the Israeli hostages. You're going to call this man a Thomas sympathizer, a terrorist. It's outrageous. This is a wonderful holy man. He's a great prince of the church. Likewise, some people are saying that the Israelis are just really trying to get at the Christians here. Once again, how would that benefit the Israelis?
Starting point is 00:21:54 And would it benefit the Israelis when their whole nation is existentially dependent upon the support of Christians, especially in America? How would it benefit the Israelis to just really stick it to the Christians? It doesn't make sense. They might have been a little bit high-handed here, and they might have misunderstood their rights when it comes to prohibiting the patriarch from the Holy Sepulchre. But to suggest that this was some, I don't know, broad-sided attack on Christians, I think is really overstating it. It was an unfortunate incident. I'm glad that people have been brought back into line. They all recognize the right balance here.
Starting point is 00:22:29 And if the patriarch and the prime minister of Israel and the American government can all be gracious about it, I think everyone else can too. Speaking of Christianity, also on Palm Sunday, a horrific incident that doesn't get a lot of play. I've talked about this issue a lot on my show. But in Nigeria, another 10 Christians at least, maybe more, were martyred by Muslims in Nigeria. We'll get to that momentarily. First, I want to tell you about tooth pillow. Go to tooth pillow.com. Use code in Oles.
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Starting point is 00:24:18 Sorry, more Christians have been killed by Muslims. Here's a video from on the ground. It just murdered over 10 people. Innocent Christians. On Palm Sunday. Tanubu, where are you? As your people, are slaughtered in the night. As you sit in A-So rock and you do absolutely nothing. You allow your people to be killed again
Starting point is 00:24:43 and again and again. When will it stop? When will you hear the cries of Nigerians of Christians? You can no longer deny genocide. They're being slaughtered. And you say there's no issue.
Starting point is 00:24:59 You will regret what you are doing. So I I've met, actually, I figure where I was flying out to last time, but I ran into a missionary who's done a lot of work in Nigeria. We've obviously talked about the Nigeria issue a lot on the show. But the Muslims have been persecuting the Christians in Nigeria to an extreme of savagery that most people can't even comprehend. And it happened again on Palm Sunday. And it's a reminder that Christianity is a religion spread by the martyrs. We say that the blood of the martyrs is the seat of the church.
Starting point is 00:25:34 It's why Cardinals wear red slippers. They wear red slippers because they're walking in the footsteps of the martyrs. And it remains the case that by the numbers, Christianity remains the most persecuted religion in the world. And usually that's by Muslims. And that's been true for 1,400 years. And people don't really pay attention. Of course, there's a lot of focus on religious issues in America, because that's domestic. There's a lot of focus on religious issues in Europe.
Starting point is 00:26:04 even where Muslims have burned down churches and things like that, shut down Christmas markets. There's always a religious focus in the Holy Land. Obviously, it's a pretty particular case. But Africa, we kind of forget about. Some of the Christian persecution in East Asia, we kind of forget about. Nevertheless, it's a reminder. This stuff is very real. And there's a point for all of us, even not thinking across the world, which is, I don't know if any of you have noticed this. I alluded to this point a little bit last week. Things get a little tougher during Lent, I've noticed. I've just noticed that. Things get a little more stressful.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Temptations become a little more tempting. Things get a little tough during Lent. Isn't that weird? Lent is this period of time when Christians are to walk with Christ, like the 40 days in the wilderness, and then leading up to his passion. And I've just noticed that things get a little wacky. So people without faith are going to look at me, even some people with faith,
Starting point is 00:27:04 are going to look at me and say, well, that's just nuts, Michael. You're just imagining things, whatever. But something that a lot of people, a lot of religious people notice. For me, this was a big part of my reversion to the faith, is that it's all real. Part of numinous experience, religious experience, is encountering the reality of God, the imminent reality of God. Oh, it's real. These aren't just stories that have archetypes, that are metaphors, that tell us something about the human experience.
Starting point is 00:27:37 It's not just that. It's real. God is real. And he's very, very close to you. Jesus Christ is a real person. He was born of a virgin and lived in a time and a place and was crucified under Pontius Pilate, suffered death, and was buried. He descended into hell and rose again on the third day in accordance with the scriptures. Like, it happened.
Starting point is 00:27:58 And then real guys went out and said. spread the religion all over the world. That all actually happened. And so if you believe that, if you believe that even, even let's just say at the most basic level, you acknowledge that there is such a thing as God, that that is real, then why would it not be the case that there are different seasons, that there are different spiritual realities? I mean, I guess bringing us all the way back to what we're talking about with J.D. Vance saying, look, I think the UFOs are demons, but that's a story for another time. If you acknowledge that there's such a thing as immaterial substances and spiritual realities, and why wouldn't it be the case that things get tougher during Lent? Maybe that's not
Starting point is 00:28:37 just an hallucination or an illusion. Maybe that helps you to make sense of the world, because it's real. Now, speaking, I actually want to jump down on a story because this makes the point, drives it so home. You know, Perez Hilton, Perez Hilton, the gossip columnist? He was really big, like, 15 years ago or so. He's a kind of tabloid gossip columnist. Perez Hilton just got into some serious medical trouble. I guess he had the flu. It started out as just the flu, but then he started taking medicines on an empty stomach, which caused a tear in his stomach, which then caused him to go into sepsis. I guess he could have died. And Perez Hilton is now claiming that he had a direct experience of God. And he's telling everyone on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:29:24 God presented himself to me. And not a feeling. It was not a feeling. It was real. God presented himself to me in the hospital. And then did something. Did something that I could only describe as miraculous. And I was very lucid.
Starting point is 00:29:46 And ever since then, I've had such a connection to God. And I've been praying and praying every day. And I know that I'm alive and I'm home and I'm better every day because of God. So I'm so thankful. And I'm so thankful that people are watching right now. I was saying earlier, I thought going live might be a mistake. But thank you for showing up for me. All right.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Let's see who we can go live with. I'm going to try not to cry. some people don't believe him they don't believe him because perez hilton i'm not telling any tales at a school this is all very public peris hilton is a gay guy he's an openly gay guy and has openly acquired children through surrogacy and all you know all sorts of things that people are are saying are uh to put it diplomatically contrary to church teaching and they say so i don't think this is real i don't come to that conclusion at all. On the contrary. On the contrary. The fact that Perez Hilton has had a little bit of a
Starting point is 00:31:00 colorful life, he's kind of a gossipy columnist, journalist type, and all the personal stuff, the fact that that is all true and he is claiming this direct experience of God actually makes even more sense to me inasmuch as I don't think, as many modern people do, that God is just some projection of our own minds or our desires. And I don't think that God is constrained by us. And I don't think he can be comprehended ultimately by us. Of course, just in his very nature. He's God. If he can be comprehended by you, he's not God, then you're God. He's real. He's a real person. Actually, he's three distinct persons in one divine unity. Would luck fully comprehending that. But he really intervenes in people's lives, God. He actually does that.
Starting point is 00:31:55 And it doesn't always have to fit your plan or what you would imagine or what you would expect. But he really does that. And listening to, I've had Perez Hilton on this show many years ago, listening to him in that video, he doesn't sound crazy. That's the amazing thing about people who have had real religious experience is they don't sound crazy. They sound more normal than ordinary people. This is something I've noticed even talking to exorcists. I had Father Rehill on this show, which got 10 bazillion views and people still watch. watch it. The funny thing about talking to an exorcist, this is someone involved in about as mystical
Starting point is 00:32:32 a profession as you can possibly imagine, is the exorcists actually, it's kind of like talking to a plumber or an electrician. In many ways, the exorcists sound more normal and grounded, speaking about what they do, than certainly the most white collar workers are speaking about what they do. Oh, do you know, I'm a project. I'm a assistant project manager. working on how to create synergy between different departments in a store, in a business that optimizes consulting firms' abilities to implement data analytics in storefronts. What the, what is that what? That's the most abstract thing I ever heard in my life.
Starting point is 00:33:17 You talk to an exorcist. He says, yeah, I cast demons out of people. I chop demons off people, you know, basically is what I do. It's from God. I'm merely an instrument of this, but that's what I do. It's like talking to an exterminator. Hey, what do you? Oh, I kill cockroaches. An electrician, what do you do? I fix wiring. Oh, okay. It's very, and this, I've noticed this with people who have had mystical experience. They're pretty placid. They're pretty, they're pretty grounded. They're pretty peaceful. They sound really normal. That's, that's kind of what I'm getting out of, out of Perez Hilton here. I don't know. Again, I don't really know him all that well personally. he says he's obviously emotional about this. The guy almost died, but he says, yeah, I just, yeah, I saw God. And what does that mean? Well, it means that he is real. We should remember that. People are scandalized by particularity because we think that everything has to just be some dumb, abstract, generalized idea. That's one of the temptations of modernity. But no, God's like a real guy. Like, in fact, we know what he looks like because he walked the earth. And he tells us to do things and not to do other.
Starting point is 00:34:23 things and we should probably listen. And how can it be that God is so particular? Yeah. That's a real stumbling block, isn't that, to some people who want to comprehend God and yet ultimately cannot. Now, speaking of religion, religious differences, we have a lot of Somalis in Minnesota, and the Democrats there are doubling down on mass migration and their support of an alien culture. We'll get to that momentarily. First, though, transgender is racism, racism, sexism. These are just a few of the isms that we've covered in the latest episode of Yes or No with comedian Jeff Dye.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Check out this teaser. Can you believe we were just pants in people? Yeah, you'd wait for your friend who trusts you. Yeah. To be like holding a tray of food or something, and then you would just pants him. If he told on you, you'd act incredulous. Like, oh God.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Here we go. All we did was pull his pants and underwear down. And now he told on us? We're gonna have to beat the shit out of that guy. that guy. I'm not saying that Jeff Dye is my favorite guest I've ever had on yes or no, but I'm not saying he's not. We can watch a full episode right now on the Michael Null's YouTube channel for the uncensored ad-free version. Subscribe to DailyWire Plus. If you're a DailyWire Plus member, you can jump into the live chat right now. You can ask questions.
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Starting point is 00:36:16 It says the big question about the gay hockey team issue. Oh, yeah, the Nashville Predators celebrated Pride Day in March. Not even, it's bad enough. They do it in June, which is the Pride Month now. But they did it in March. They were so excited. I don't want to call the hockey guys gay, because hockey is a pretty straight sport.
Starting point is 00:36:35 But I don't know, the executives of the NHL and the Nashville team, I don't know, whatever it is. They, a little bit lavender out there. So anyway, they say the real question is, will this mean fewer brawls in the middle of the game or more? Or more? I don't know. That's a good question.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Tim Walls took to the no-kings protests. No kings to say that the Democrats, look, They can really relate to the ordinary American. All right. We don't want these kings in D.C. What we're going to do instead is ignore immigration law, flood the country with Somalis who defraud them and steal all their money. And there's nothing the ordinary American can do about it. And I will add a special, a special thank you and a special acknowledgement that we will never leave the side of our Somali Minnesotans.
Starting point is 00:37:31 here's our pledge to you. Our Somali Minnesotans, your great-grandchildren will still be here when that orange clown is in the dustbin of history. You will be here. So you know Tim Walls is a knucklehead
Starting point is 00:37:54 and he usually says things that are totally ridiculous and we just say he doesn't know what he's talking about. I hate to say it. What he's just said here is objectively true. He said, my message to the Somalis is that their grandchildren will be here long after President Trump has gone. Yeah, that's true. That's 99% likely to be true. That's the real problem of mass migration. It's why Democrats are so eager for it. When you import a bunch of
Starting point is 00:38:28 foreigners, that helps Democrats, because the Democrats, uh, the Democrats, uh, the, the Democrats, uh, on weakening the United States and bringing in lots of different people. It's no knock even on the particular people necessarily, but when you bring in lots of different people that just weakens, social solidarity, it weakens the country. And the Democrats campaign on that pretty explicitly, and they benefit from that. So Democrats can either persuade people to vote for them, which they sometimes do to some degree, but they're not very good at it. And if you look at just ordinary native-born Americans in most places in the country, Democrats don't play very well with them. So they say, okay, well, we're going to change the demographics of the country.
Starting point is 00:39:07 So when you look at recent immigrants or new immigrants or what, they do a lot better among them. And the thing is, when you run a campaign and you persuade a stable electorate of Native-born Americans in one election, there's a decent chance that the other party is going to persuade him in the next election. And, you know, there's some stability even as the pendulum swings. when you just import new voters, that changes the demographics in perpetuity. And even if some of those immigrant groups do kind of come over over time, I mean, the Italians did this very well. The Italians split almost perfectly. So you got the Scalia's, but you got the Pelosi's too.
Starting point is 00:39:48 You look at an Italian, you can't really tell who they vote for. Other immigrant groups, that's not true. The vast majority of Latin American immigrants just vote Democrat. There are some exceptions. We love our Cubans, our Colombians. are pretty getable for the conservatives, but generally that's how it goes. You can track it, and it's not just them.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Obviously, most immigrants now come from Latin America, but you can track it with the other immigrant groups too. So you just can kind of tell, and that's what the Democrats are after. They say, you know, look, Trump he won, at least two elections. That's unfortunate, but the Somalis are going to be here. Their grandkids are going to be here long after Trump is gone.
Starting point is 00:40:22 That's true. That's the urgency of the immigration question. Also, at a no-kings protest, Maisie Hirono, the Democrat Senator from Hawaii, one of my absolute favorite characters out of the U.S. Senate, Maisie Hirono made an accidental admission about no kings.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Maisie Hirono comes out, she tweets, Donald Trump is not, never will be, and has never been a king. Hashtag no kings. Did you catch, did you catch the flaw in her argument?
Starting point is 00:41:00 I mean, it's not, I guess it's just really an admission, but I thought when you use the hashtag no kings, the implication for the whole no kings protest is that Trump is a king, he has made himself into a king, he will further entrench himself as a king. We don't like Trump, we don't want kings, we're going to kick him out. And so Maisie Arona, she says, yeah, guys, yeah, we don't want any kings here. And so Donald Trump is not, never will be, and never has been a king. So the whole protest is completely pointless. Great. Macy, I agree with you. This is weird. I'm agreeing with Tim Walz. I'm agreeing with Macy Hirono. I agree with AOC. I agree with AOC the other day, too.
Starting point is 00:41:47 AOC was coming at. She said, you know, I don't like the pervasive move to legalize gambling. I think that's probably bad. And I agree with her on that point. That's a controversial point, but I agree with her. Well, I agree with her on something else now. AOC just came out and addressing the problems caused by AI. She said that she does not use artificial intelligence, chat, GATT, GROC, to write. So, you know, I don't think those efforts are working on behalf of the administration. As far as AI, I do not regularly integrate it into my daily life. but I know many people do. I think our job tends to be a little bit more. For me, my job, a lot of my job is quite writing-based, and I like to do my own.
Starting point is 00:42:40 We know. Can I just say, we know that you do your own writing? And in most, I would say in 99% of cases, I think people should not use AI for writing. Because, one, the AI writing is simply not good. And you can tell when someone uses AI to compose something. but two, it renders you incapable of coherent thoughts because to write well is to think clearly, which is why it's so hard.
Starting point is 00:43:07 And so in 99% of cases, I tell people don't use AI to write. When it comes to AOC, maybe let's just cut our losses and turn to chat GPT. It would be my suggestion. When she comes out there, she goes, listen, I, like, so, like, for me, I just, when I write, when I do the,
Starting point is 00:43:25 I letters, words and letters, I put together. on a paper or screen and I don't, GBT, no, I know use, no. I do me. I do me. Me. I say, yeah, yes, I know. I can, I know that. And this is one exception. You should, you, AOC should use chat, GBT. I give you permission as, as someone with a great interest in language, someone who's written a number one national bestselling book about language, speech, called speechless. Highly recommend you pick it up wherever.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Where's my bell? Is there no one? They're falling. The guys are falling asleep in the control room today. Anyway, with whatever authority I have on this subject, AOC, you have permission, you should use chat TBT. Before we go, Jimmy Kimmel has just gone a little bit viral. I think he just kind of stepped in it. We're talking about egregious, missteps, bad communications today.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Well, this was pretty bad communications. Jimmy Kimmel comes out. Max, President Trump's new Secretary of Homeland Security, former Senator, now confirmed as the DHS Secretary, Mark Wayne Mullen, and he makes fun of him specifically for his background in blue-collar work. He's not be with us much longer, but don't worry Trump's got a whole new generation of thinkers lined up, including his newly confirmed Secretary of Homeland Security, Mark Wayne, Chuck Mike, Bruce Dave Mellon. Maybe Melon's better.
Starting point is 00:45:02 He is the now former senator of Oklahoma. Before he was elected to the Senate, Mark Wayne Mullen was a low-level MMA fighter and a plumber. That's right. We have a plumber protecting us from terrorism now. I work for Super Mario. Why not Mark Wayne? But honestly, I mean,
Starting point is 00:45:23 if Trump is going to keep picking these unqualified people to run the department, why not have more fun with it? I mean, next time, instead of Mark Wayne, how about Little Wayne for Homeland Security? At least we could get a concert out of it, right? Mullen is replacing Christy Knoem, who was ousted three weeks ago and will never be seen again. Ah, you get it? We got this dumb plumber. We got this dumb, stupid, idiot plumber is running a government agency.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Why, he didn't even go to a fancy college. Well, actually, that's not totally fair. Mark Wayne Mullen did go to college. he dropped out of college because his father became gravely ill and he had to go run the family business. So Mark Wayne Mullen, he does the thing that a lot of people do in America. He starts going to college. And then he was so responsible and so caring for his family and so mature that he actually left, sacrificed some of his personal ambition, to go run a business. By the way, someone who has run a successful plumbing business is more qualified.
Starting point is 00:46:31 to run a government agency, will do a better job running a government agency, than probably at least, I'm being generous here, 87% of the staffers and politicians in D.C. Why, he didn't even go to Williams College. He doesn't even have a law degree from, I don't, from NYU or whatever. Yeah, you're right. He ran a business and took care of his family. was a successful United States Senator and is now the Secretary of Homeland Security. Why, he's never even told jokes on television, says Jimmy Kimmel. Yeah, you're right. This is your
Starting point is 00:47:12 pitch? The big Democrats pitch, as Trump is supposedly losing all sorts of support and all the Democrats pitch is, look at President Trump. He surrounds himself with so many of these dirty poor people. It's like, can you guys just shut up and clean my toilet? Ha! Ha! Ha! We need to. to go out there and win the votes of the people. I don't want to hear from you, you disgusting filthy plumber, you blue-collar worker. You keep your, you look down at the floor when you come into my house. I, don't you know, am a working-class hero. I won't have you looking at me, you insolent little twerp.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Go fix my plumbing. Not a good look. Not a good look. Not a good message. It's not true. It's not even true. I would certainly trust a guy who ran a plumbing business over most. politicians when it comes to actually getting an agency to function.
Starting point is 00:48:05 But it's also just a terrible look. Really bad communications all around. Things go a little wacky during Lent. Okay, before we go, in the latest episode of Be a Man with Me, Pavel faces one of his dirtiest challenges yet when he embeds with a hardworking cattle farm where he has to pregnancy check cattle, gross, clean grain bins, and even harvest corn.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Here's this teaser. My name is Pavel. Be a man with me. And do some PG-13 content. this is a long, long glove. I love Pavel so much, and even beyond that, I love this show. I just love it. I was very much encouraging him to make this show.
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