The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 2002 - We Must Deport Our Way Out Of This, Dem's RADICAL Election Results

Episode Date: June 25, 2026

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I Gaming Ontario. AOC is out. D.A.C. is in. The next congressman from New York's 13th, Dario Lisa Avila Chevalier, does not just promote socialism and environmentalism, like her radical colleague and predecessor.

She founded an organization dedicated to undermining and eradicating America. That is almost verbatim. I am not joking. How did this? this happen? Some people are blaming a small number of white voters. Some people are blaming immigrants. Whose fault is it? It's the immigrants, actually, specifically the legal ones. That's not much of a tease, but we will get into why that is the case. Then President Trump cancels the signing of a popular

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You can't do that anymore. The cancel thing is over. For now, I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Nulls show. Welcome back to the show. Left-wing terrorist sympathizer, Hassan Piker, is demanding that people stop calling him a terrorist. He keeps calling for Republican and conservative civilians to be. murdered for their politics.

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Even AOC. She was on the bleeding edge of radicalism. She wanted to spend, what was it, like $90 trillion fighting the Sun Monster. She was one of the first really hot, cool, hip socialists to enter Congress. She was saying all the craziest stuff in the world. She was getting all the media attention. And now, even AOC is Passa. Seek Tronzie, Gloria Mundi.

There's a new girl in town. Dari Aliza, Avila Chevalier, and she makes AOC look like Dwight Eisenhower. She makes AOC look like the most mainstream, boring establishment politician there is. D.AC is the Democrat nominee for New York's 13th congressional district. She just won the nomination for the Democrats. DAC is a socialist. She is Hispanic and identitarian in her politics. She also wants to eradicate America.

No exaggeration. Think about all the trouble I got in a few years ago at CPAC when I said, for the good of everybody, we need to eradicate transgenderism from public life entirely, the whole ideology. which is a very basic statement. It's just to say, we need to correct people and have a true anthropology again and not affirm the delusions of confused people.

For that, I was accused of genocide. This chick, who's headed to Congress, has called specifically, quote, to undermine and eradicate America. Not Americanism, not constitutionalism, not some idea. The country. She wants to eradicate our country.

Not even a country. It would be bad enough if she said, I want to eradicate Djibouti or something. She wants to eradicate our own country. Somehow she's allowed to vote and actually she's going to serve in Congress. What is this group? This was at Columbia University, no surprise. The whole Ivy League is a little weird these days, but especially Columbia is just a hotbed of left-wing radicalism. She founded this group called the Columbia, what is it? The Columbia University apartheidized. divest movement. And the quad is aimed ostensibly at Israel

because there have been these movements on university campuses for years and years to divest from Israel. And really, even that didn't start with Israel. That began out of the movement to divest from South Africa, which was promoted by left wingers 30, 40 years

ago. And that movement has now led to mass persecution and calls for genocide side of white South Africans. So it's similar kind of thing here. Yes, the ostensibly the direct object is first South Africa, now Israel, but really it does all kind of swing back to America because what these people really hate is the West, the civilization that we used to call Christendom, and specifically America, because America's the hegemon of that civilization and of the whole world. So what did Quad do? It didn't just call to defund Israel or to, I don't know,

support Palestinian statehood or something. In the second bullet point for this group that the future congressman from New York founded. It says divestment is not an incremental goal. True divestment necessitates nothing short of the total collapse of the university structure and American Empire itself. So it begins at this university, one ostensibly a prestigious university, Columbia. It's lost a little of prestige in recent decades, but it starts at the university. It says we want to eradicate the university.

We want to eradicate Israeli state. I guess, just like we used to want to eradicate the political system of South Africa, but really what we're going after is the American Empire. Worth pointing out, she's not even saying we want to destroy this university, Columbia University, which I might sign on to that organization. She says she wants to eliminate the university structure. Universities are one of the great jewels and products of Christendom, of Christian civilization. One of the many flowers of Christianity in politics and history has been the university system. universities which have been degraded for a long time now, but the universities which are purporting

to inculcate universal knowledge so that all the little specialties all kind of work together so that you can arrive at the truth so that we can make sense of our freedom. That's the purpose of the liberal arts. She wants to get rid of that, get rid of the whole university structure as such and America. It is not possible for imperial spoils to remain so heavily concentrated in the metropole and its high cultural repositories without the continuous suppression of all populations that resist the empire's expansion. And then finally, to divest from this is to, quote, undermine and eradicate America as we know it. Then it says we refuse to allow Colombia to return to normalcy, normalcy, which is a made up word. It was made up by Warren Harding, I think. Anyway,

she's using normalcy. The word is normality. They don't teach you that at Columbia, I guess. And then number four, we act in full support of the Palestinian resistance, and we want to translate their resilience in Gaza to unrest and violence in America. So she's even drawing a line here. She's saying the Palestine issue is really about undermining America. And this is a point I've made for a really long time now, and it's worth pointing out. When it comes to the Israel-Palestine issue, I do think there is a role for talking about the legitimate rights of Palestinian Arabs. I know that's somewhat unpopular on the right, but there's a role to talk about that if what we were talking about was really the Israel-Palestine conflict. But it's not. And even the people who are founding the

organizations that are supposedly pro-Palestine and all about divesting from Israel because of the Palestine conflict, even they, in their manifestos, are saying, this is really about America. This is really about copying the Palestinian resistance and drawing it in to undermine and eradicate America itself. This woman's going to serve in Congress. this is not a sustainable way of politics. As Chesterton said, and I repeat it a lot, there's a thought that undermines thought, and that's the thought that ought to be destroyed. There have to be limits to politics.

We have all sorts of limits in our political system. Constitution says you have to be a certain age to run for Congress, a different age to run for Senate, a different age to run for president. The Constitution says you need to be a natural born U.S. citizen to be president. That's not true for other political offices, but there are sort of gradations of citizenship and American identity. And you have to sign on to some basic stuff to participate in the system. If you are implicitly, I think, but especially if you are explicitly endeavoring to destroy the country, we cannot allow you to participate in the political system.

That's not authoritarian or totalitarian or anything like that. that is one of the most basic limitations that every political community has to have. This woman certainly should not be in Congress. She certainly should not be allowed to vote, and she really shouldn't be here in America. So whose fault is it? How did this woman, and all these other commies and socialists and deeply anti-American people, other politicians who won during the Mumdani sweep in New York, saying that America deserve 9-11, how did these guys get elected?

There are two groups that are being singled out here for blame. one is a small number of white liberals who voted in this election that had very low voter turnout. The other group is immigrants, not just illegal immigrants, but legal immigrants too. And whichever one of those groups really bears the brunt of the blame here, that is obviously the problem that we have to address. And I think a lot of people are getting this wrong. And I think there are ways to address this problem, but not the ways people think. So we'll get to that momentarily. It's the immigrants fault, by the way.

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Not all violence is terrorism. Not all political violence, for that matter, is terrorism. Terrorism has a specific and restrained definition. It is the use of violence against civilians, targeting civilians, with the intent to harm civilians in order to achieve political ends. Hassan Piker calls for that. He calls for it time and time again, and he's really upset that you call him a terrorist. I wish they stop calling me a terrorist. That's what I wish. I wish they stop calling me a radical. None of these people are radical. They just want health care. They want to end American militarism. They want to spend money on roads, on infrastructure, on schooling, on health care rather than bombs overseas.

because it seems like for far too long, that's what our focus has been. And not the focus of the American people, but the focus of the American government has been in that direction. We have to put an end to our endless militarism, and we have to focus on ourselves, and we have to heal this nation and repair it. Oh, that sounds really nice, right? We don't, look, stop calling me a terrorist. We just want health care for people. That would be fine, except that he's lying. The problem that people have with Hassan Piker is not that he supports some stupid health care policy

that he thinks will have good ends, even though it will probably have bad ends. The problem people have with Hassan Piker is that he's called for the murder of multiple Republican senators. That's the problem. He's called for the murder of Senator Rick Scott and for the murder of Senator Tom Cotton. The problem people have with Hassan Piker is that he is called for the streets to run red in the blood of capitalists. The problem that people have with Hassan Piker in the American political system is that he says we deserved 9-11. We deserved the most notable and egregious terror attack that has ever occurred on our soil. Notice here, Hassan Piker is not adopting the line of the conspiracy theorists who say,

America brought 9-11 on itself because it was an inside job. There was a conspiracy. It wasn't really Muslim terrorists. Some people push that line of argument. That's not his line. What are you saying is, no, no, no, it was Muslim terrorists and we deserved it. America deserved it. So that's why they call him a terrorist.

They call him a terrorist, and they point out that he sympathizes with terrorists and he promotes terrorism because that's what he does. That's it. And then he tries to distract. He says, I just want health care for people. You don't. And the same thing goes for these elected politicians. The problem we have with DAC and all the rest of these people is not that they advocate a stupid health care policy or a tax policy or whatever. the problem we have is that you say you want to eradicate America and we believe you because you keep saying it.

So whose fault is this? There's a line being pushed by the New York Post. And I've seen a lot of really nice conservatives pushing this line that really this is the fault of white liberals. They say how just 7% of voters, mostly young and white, led Mamdani's New York City socialist election. surge. So it's very, very low turnout in the Mamdani sweep with all these kami politicians. It says just 7% of active voters supported Mamdani's radical ally Dari Elisa Avela Chevalier over establishment rep Adriano Espayat in Tuesday's main event primary. The overall low turnout, roughly 17% Democrat voters statewide, sorry, citywide, came as Avila Chevalier and two other Mamdani-backed House primary winners captured a mix of high-earning young white and black voters, analysts found. Now, they leave the black out of there because they want, because they want to

focus on white liberals. And a lot of conservatives do this, too. They say, don't call us xenophobic. Don't call us racist. You know, my least favorite group of people in America, it's these white liberals, especially the white liberal women. They call them offals, affluent white, what is it, affluent white female liberals. That's it. Awfuls. And so they do this and it's all kind of a joke. Ha, no, I'm not, don't call me racist. Don't call me xenophobic. You say, yeah, okay, sure. The women with the septum piercings and the crazy colored hair. Yeah, they're really annoying and they're really easy to make fun of. And that's all true. But this is cope and that is a cowardly response to this political problem, which is a very real political problem now because you have

people who are winning seats in the American government, who are openly calling to destroy the American government, who are openly supporting political violence against normal guys like you. And if we keep burying our heads in the sand out of, I think, cowardice and still, even in the year of our Lord, 2006, fear of being called racist and xenophobic, you're not going to solve the problem and the problem is only going to go worse. This problem is not primarily driven by the kooky, liberal, white women. It's just not. The problem is immigration. It's not even that we, it's not that we hate immigrants. It's not even that the immigrants themselves are so awful and terrible and wrong. Many, if not most Americans, have some immigrant lineage. I certainly do

from southern Italy, which practically is North Africa at this point. So I'm speaking as an African American. Nevertheless, it's an immigrant problem. Stephen Miller just pointed this out. It said, half of all college graduates in New York City are immigrants or from immigrant households. So when observers say college grads in New York City are embracing communism, this is not a homegrown phenomenon. 38% of New York City residents are foreign-born.

They're immigrants. When you look at children of immigrants, not 10 generations down the line, one generation down the line, about 60% of New Yorkers are immigrants or children of immigrants. When you look at the percentage of Democrat primary voters who are immigrants or the children of immigrants, the number goes higher still. It's really hard to get good data on that. We don't really collect data on that. It is certainly north of 60%.

Probably significantly north of 60%. that's a that's a particular problem in new york if you look at the rest of the country about 15% of the country nationally is foreign born and then 12 and a half percent or so is second generation so total you're looking at under 30 percent immigrant and children of immigrant which is still very very high historically but compared to 60 plus percent it's it's not as high it's just an immigration problem if we didn't have mass migration specifically from the third world there would be no mayor, Momdani. Many of these candidates would not be here. What's her face? DAC was born in America to immigrant parents from the Dominican Republic and I think maybe Venezuela.

If we didn't have mass migration, she wouldn't be here. Mom Dani wouldn't be here. A lot of these other candidates wouldn't be here. A lot of their voters wouldn't be here. And the anti-American ideology, which is prominent in places like Venezuela throughout the world, in the third world, that would still be here to some degree with those white liberal women with the stupid nose piercings and the crazy hair, but it would be much less pronounced. It would be much less electorally significant. Immigration is the decisive issue, and it's not just illegal immigration. Most of these people are here legally or their parents were here legally. The vast majority of them were here legally. So you can't hide it, guys. I know we really don't want to be called racist because we're not racist. We don't have unjust antipathies toward people based on shallow identity markers. We're not, we're not those things. We're not even xenophobic in the sense that if we had a much lower foreign-born percentage

of the population, we would probably be more open to migration. That's been the story of American history. Despite the liberal narrative that we've always been an open borders nation of immigrants, that isn't true. That's totally made up retconning of American history. In the early days of America, we severely restricted immigration. Then we loosened it up in the middle of the 19th century. Then we got too many migrants.

Then we had the previous high point of foreign-born percentage of the population. So you know what we did in 1924? We restricted it back to basically nothing. We totally cut off the third world and we severely restricted the rest of immigration. And that was the immigration policy for 40 years, which coincided with the absolute peak of the American nation and empire. Then in 1965 with the Hartzeller Act, we loosened it up again, changed this system, radically changed our demographics. And now we have communists and terrorists and political radicals being elected to office in America. What's the solution?

There's only one solution that will do anything seriously to get. the job done, and that is to drastically reduce all immigration, certainly a legal immigration, but legal immigration too. Furthermore, it involves being a little more careful about what places we take people from, because different populations that come to America are more or less assimilable. Different populations have greater or lesser diaspora identities that will allow them to form these voting blocks that, in the case of Arab and Muslim, Muslim immigration have totally taken over places like Dearborn, Michigan, that are increasingly taking over places like New York, that are taking over even towns in Texas. We have to focus on

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That's balance of nature.com. Use promo code Noles. The only way to deal with the immigration problem is to back the White House, not the Congress, not the courts, back the White House in its efforts to close the border, to deport the illegals who are here, to increase the cost. of applying for citizenship, to reduce the barriers to deportation, to tighten up the voter rolls, to tighten up the welfare programs, to pressure migrants who are not all that dedicated to defending America, to getting out. That's what you have to do. And a lot of people on the left, certainly, but on the squishy right, too, they will say, well, we don't want to upset the balance of powers or, sorry, the checks and balances and the separation of powers. We don't want to upend our constitutional

system. We don't want a tyrannical executive power. Give me a break. The threat to your liberty, the real threat of tyranny, is not coming from the White House, which has been largely neutered. The White House, which has been stymied in its most basic imperatives after winning the popular vote by like one random federal judge out of 700, one after another. The threat here is not from an executive that is too strong. The real threat to our constitutional order is from a Congress that cannot and will not do anything substantive and from a judiciary that is, I would say too cowardly, but I think they're reading the polls too, and they're too afraid of having the judiciary totally blown up by Democrats who want to pack the court and permanently destroy that part of

our government. So the only branch of the government that has the thumos, that has the spirit to actually do something and any ability whatsoever is the executive, which is how it was designed, and it's why we need to back it. So the Supreme Court is supposed to decide this birthright citizenship question. I think they're going to give Trump a bunch of wins on the lower level immigration issues. I think they are not going to overturn birthright citizenship. They should. The 14th Amendment was not intended to give Chinese criminals the ability to baby farm in America to receive the privileges of the American Empire. That's not what it was for. That's not how it was publicly understood at the time of passing, but that's how it has been used and abused. I don't think the Supreme Court's

going to touch it. I think they're going to block. They're going to find some way to get out of it. So it's really only the White House that can do that. One of the ways that I just mentioned of tightening up the system is to preserve voter integrity to get the people who should not vote off of the voter rolls. You see Chuck Schumer. Chuck Schumer came out. He said, you can't pass the Save America Act. If you do that, if you do that, then you could purge tens of millions of voters from the voter rolls. and say, uh-huh, right, that's the point. Yeah, what an odd thing to say, Chuck Schumer? Why?

You think that if we insist on voter integrity, we would lose tens of millions of your voters? Wow, so weird. President Trump is really trying to pass the Save America Act right now, so much so that there was a news conference and a bill signing to pass this housing bill that was coming out of Congress. And Trump, as the legislators are assembled to sign the bill, Trump says I'm canceling it. He says, today's housing news conference. prints and signing is hereby canceled until such time as we pass the desperately needed Save America

Act, which I consider to be a national emergency. Thank you for your attention to this matter, President, DJT. And this exploded a controversy on Capitol Hill and at the White House because they say this housing bill is really popular. The housing bill's fine. It would reduce some regulations to building new housing. It would, it got some bipartisan support. It would beef up some subsidies for housing. In any case, it's a really important issue because young people in particular are having a real hard time purchasing houses right now. And so it's in the interest of everybody to increase the housing supply. Some people are afraid of their housing, the House values diminishing a little bit, but the political goods of this and the political urgency of this is pretty clear. Democrats or

Republicans agree. So why would Trump take this political win away from Republicans? Well, the other side would say, because the Save America Act is an 80% popular act. It is an 80-20, 90-10 issue. Everybody, including Democrats, supports voter ID. and these freaking legislators on Capitol Hill won't pass it. So you got to pass it, and then I'll sign your housing bill. But the Republicans in the Senate won't pass it. And the reason they won't pass it is nothing to do with the Save America Act. It's because in order to pass it to get over the libs and some of the squishy Republicans,

you would have to blow up the filibuster. And the filibuster is this procedural rule that preserves some minority rights when the one party is out of power. And the people who are urging for the overturning, of the filibuster are the ones who are saying the Democrats are going to get rid of the filibuster the first chance they get. The minute they retake the Senate, they're going to get rid of the filibuster. And so the question you have to ask yourself when it comes to this procedural rule, because I like the filibuster, I like slowing things down. I don't like political radicalism.

I am, trust me, I'm in principle on the side of the filibuster. But I guess the question you have to ask yourself is, in a Democrat party that is openly electing people who call to eradicate America who are promoting political violence, who are promoting terrorism, you really think they're going to be precious about the filibuster? I don't buy it. I don't buy it. I don't think the party of, forget AOC, DAC especially, I don't think that party is going to preserve the filibuster. So the question is, are we going to wait for them to blow it up? Or are we going to deal with political realities ourselves? It's a tough issue. I don't deny it, because political wins can change. But the Save America Act is a major political win. Now, the problem with the whole setup, by the way, is it's not an either-or. We can get the

Save America Act or you're just going to pass the housing bill? The little secret here about how bills are passed is the housing bill will pass into law. If a president doesn't sign a bill, other than in very rare circumstances, 10 days later, the bill just passes into law without the president's signature. So the little secret here, I hate to let the cat out of the bag, is the housing bill will just pass into law. President Trump's stunt yesterday is to apply pressure and to call public attention to the fact that the Republicans won't get rid of the filibuster to pass the Save America Act. That's what it's for. It's not coming at the cost of the housing bill. The housing bill is going to pass. The issue is, will the people bring enough pressure to bear on the Republicans

to pass the Save America Act? Now, speaking of President Trump and shows, Nate Bargatsy, you know Nate Bargatsy, the comedian? He is being excoriated by Hollywood and throughout the liberal press because of an egregious crime that he committed. Nate Bargatsy attended the U.S. UFC fight at the White House. Can you imagine that? A popular entertainer went to the coolest example of popular entertainment in decades. And he did that at the White House, at the president of the United States' house, why is that a problem? Variety says, Nate Bargatsy is being slammed for, quote, willingly associating with proud fascists after attending UFC Freedom 250 at Trump's White House.

Not The White House. It's Trump's White House. It's different from the White House. I like Variety here. That's the first line. And they post the quote without attribution in that first line. He's being slammed for willingly associating with proud fascists. Is he really doing that? Go back to the variety thing. W. Kamau Bell, whoever that is, posted a takedown of Bargazzi, in which he warned, don't be in a photo with fascists. The easiest, way to not be photographed with fascists is to not go to places where fascists coagulate. Fascist, fascist, fascist.

He goes on. He just keeps using the word fascism, like two, three, four, how many more times? It's kind of funny to compare this to the Hassan Piker issue. Fascism is a real political ideology. It was developed by people like Benito Mussolini, by philosophers like Giovanni Gentile. It is an ideology of the state in which the state is, total. The symbol of fascism is a collection of a bundle of sticks like the Roman fashi and the idea is that, you know, at one stick you can break easily. Individualism, you can break easily. But when

you put the bundle of sticks together, it's much harder to break. And which makes a fair point, actually. It's a modernist ideology in as much as it does initially endeavor to break society down into individuals so they can gather them together in this contrived collective. I also agree that individualism is bad and we can easily snatches. and it's one of the underlying ideologicals in American politics, but the way to counter that is not with some contrived ideology that is ultimately totalitarian or statist, but it's through organic and natural institutions like the family,

which are much harder to break. Nevertheless, we go on. Fascism is a real ideology. It's distinct from Nazism. It's distinct from communism. There are some similarities between this, but it's a distinct ideology. And crucially, not one person in the true,

Trump administration is a fascist. Fascism, to quote George Orwell, is now just a term that denotes someone that you don't like. It's very, very funny that at the same time that the Democrats are calling this totally mainstream centrist comedian Nate Bargadze a fascist. You have people like Hassan Piker saying, stop calling me a terrorist. But when we call Hassan Piker a terrorist, we're using the word really precisely. It applies perfectly to him. He is calling for political violence against civilians in order to achieve political ends. That is terrorism. Nothing the Trump administration is doing is fascism.

But they think if they can tie this word around Bargatsi's neck, it'll be enough to destroy his career. The Daily Beast going after him, in addition to variety, everybody's going after him. Do they think this is 2018 again? This worked. In 2018, this guy would have caved in two seconds. 2018, 2019, this would have been over. His career would be done.

He'd probably be censored from social media. but it's not 2018, 2019, anymore. Trump is the mainstream of American politics. He won re-election. He won election at least two times. And the last time he won with the popular vote. So he's the mainstream. That's why I think Bargatzi is resisting the pressure.

However, there is an underlying threat here. We shouldn't be to a pollyana about this. The left is building, and they're becoming more radical, and they're becoming more irritated, single day. So they are now openly calling for political violence. They are now openly calling to destroy America, not just, they're not even pretending anymore. When Obama said he wanted to fundamentally transform America, he was at least pretending to like America. If you listen to that phrase, you realize he hates America, because you don't fundamentally transform things that you like.

But at least he would say, you know, I'd wear that flagpin. Put on that American flagpin. There's no red America. There's no blue America. There's a United States of America. But even though he hated America. Now they just say, we hate America, we want to destroy it. If these guys get power, they are going to be more radical than ever, and they're going to upend the Supreme Court. They're going to almost certainly destroy the filibuster. They're going to ram through a lot of crazy legislation. They're going to fling open the borders. They're going to let the prisoners out of jail. They're calling to abolish prisons. Canceling Nate Bargazzi is going to be the least of it, but they're going to do that too. Okay. Speaking of sociopathic Dems, Dean Withers, a left-wing

darling who goes on Jubilee and other kind of live stream shows, Dean Withers, who appears to be the more clubbable younger version of Hassan Piker, he has just made a really honest argument about abortion. And I think you're going to start seeing this crop up a little more on the left, a more muscular left wing, at least on the surface, kind of dark woke, you know, the woke that isn't so hopey-changy, that isn't so aspirational. It's a woke that's going to be a little more overtly sociopathic. You see this in some of the streamers. like Hassan Piker or Kyle Kalinsky. You see this in some of the politicians like

the Governor Patrick Bateman in California, Gavin Newsom, and you're seeing this in this guy. But I think I have the answer as to how to respond to this dark woke, especially on this issue of abortion. We'll get to that momentarily. First, you need to smash the like button and subscribe. Also, check us out on Spotify, where you can download full episode

audio and video to watch or listen whenever you want without using your data. Don't miss an episode. My favorite comment yesterday. It's from Spotify. again. And it is from Arun Rami, who says, Michael, I'll give you $500 if you choose this comment. Do I need to send over my Venmo name? Do I need to send over my cat? I don't think I have a cash app. Whatever it is. Thank you, Arun. I look forward to my $500. That sounds great. Maybe I can buy some more Mayflower cigars with the $500. Dean Withers goes on the Jubilee show. He is now going viral for

this argument is a big shift. For the way Democrats used to talk about abortion is abortion's tragic, but it's necessary to preserve in the law. It needs to be safe, legal and rare, Hillary Clinton said. Dean Withers says, no, no, abortion is murdering a baby and that's fine.

Because I think it's a permissible action, I therefore don't see any good reason to infringe on a woman's bodily autonomy in the legal prevention of her access to abortion. Therefore, it's human rights violation. So you don't understand that it's like killing, you don't think it's killing a human being? No, I do. And you're okay with that?

Yes. Okay. You don't think that we should focus more on preventable measures? Okay. Boom. Wow. I'm not your grandma's liberal. I'm a real tough. I'm a tough, cool liberal, says this guy. So he says, I do think that abortion is killing a baby. But I don't think there's anything morally wrong with that. Now, of course, killing a baby is not just like any other kind of killing. It's not like killing in times of war. It's not like the state executing a convicted criminal. A baby is by definition an innocent person. So he's saying, no, a lot of the pro-abortion people will say, the baby's not a person, the baby's not a human being, the baby's not alive. He's not

doing that. He's saying the baby is alive, the baby is a person. It's your abortion is killing a person, namely the baby. And it's killing an innocent person, which means abortion is murder. But I don't think that murder is intrinsically wrong. So I will just defend it. And there are plenty of intelligent, at least apparently educated people who advance this line of argument. I mean, at Princeton, Peter Singer, is probably the most prominent proponent of this who says, yeah, we need to defend abortion because of utilitarian calculations, you know, the greatest good for the greatest number of people. He would go so far as to say, it would be okay to kill babies, perhaps even after birth. This is part of his argument on defending youth

Asia or all the rest of it. It's a different kind of moral reasoning and it's an immoral reasoning, but there you have it. So I guess the way that I would answer the dark, woke people who say, I'm not your grandma's liberal. Yeah, I think abortion is murdering a baby and I think that's totally fine. Boom. Got to do it to solve social problems. That's fine. I would say, okay, all right, let's go along with your way of thinking then. Would you apply that same logic to retards? like out of the womb. And you know the first thing they're going to say is,

you can't use the word retard. I say, hold on. I say the word retard. You want to kill retards. Which of us is being immoral here? Actually, the word retard is really helpful in this. Because for the left, saying the right thing

is much, much more important than doing the right thing. The appearance of the thing is much more important than the essence of the thing. The essence is which they use. deny. They say, what about retards who are, the ones out of the womb, they obviously support killing mentally deficient people inside the womb, even if there's a risk of mental deficiency. They say, oh, kill them all. Let's eradicate transgender, or sorry, that's what I say.

Let's eradicate Down syndrome. They'll celebrate this in press releases in places like Iceland. You said, no, no, what about like a 35-year-old guy who has Down syndrome, let's say, and he's really happy and you know he's got a job and but you consider you dean withers consider him to be a burden to society the left broadly hates down syndrome people and wants to kill them all so okay do you would it be fine you say killing an innocent person is morally justified there's nothing intrinsically wrong with it would you be okay with just killing all the retarded 35 year olds i don't know that he would say yes but maybe if he's being really edgy he wants to be a real edgy boy he would say yes so then take it further, say, okay, what about young black men? You know, young black men commit much more violent

crime than any other group in the country. So should we just go around and kill all the young? Would there be, sorry, would there be anything intrinsically wrong about going up to just your average young black man on the street and murdering him, shooting him in cold blood on the street? He would, he would, of course, say, yes, I'm not a racist. I'm not out there. Are you a racist? Are you? Why is that wrong? You just said, there's nothing intrinsically wrong with killing an innocent person. You've said that for social goods, we can have a utilitarian calculation that it's okay to kill some class of people. And I'm just showing you that young black men are statistically much more likely to commit violent crime than any other

group. So by your logic, there's absolutely nothing wrong with just picking a young black man at random off the street and executing him in cold blood. And not even having the state do it, having a private person do it because that's how abortion is carried out. Is there anything wrong with that? And I think what you would find is that all their edginess, all of their avant-garde moral illogic is going to fall away because it's really safe to seem like a sociopath when you're talking about little babies in the womb.

That's safe in our society. But if you touch on other issues, forget about ableism, which is a moderately considered issue, but especially racism. You're going to see that all fall away. And all of a sudden, you're going to see appeals to reason again. And you're going to find out that these arguments are totally incoherent. There's so much more to get to. James Talariko is a Christian who hates Christianity. Did you know that? Do we have time to get to it? You know what? It's Theology Thursday. I want to get to it. James Talariko, there's a new clip every day, a Democrat Senate candidate from Texas. Tala RICO says God is non-binary. Tallerico says,

women are our neighbors with uteruses. Here, Talariko says he is a Christian, but he hates Christianity. Yeah, and that's, you know, I always think of myself as a Christian who hates Christianity. Yep, right? And like, I always get,

always get drawn back into it. Ha ha, ha, ha. You know what I always say? I'm a Christian who hates Christianity. Ha ha ha ha. Okay. You hear this from liberals. even people who are sincere about being religious.

From people who have liberalism in their religion, not just Christianity, Judaism, I don't know if there's much liberal Islam, but liberal religion throughout, especially Christianity. They'll say, well, I hate the religion, you know, but I just, but I keep being drawn in. And I would say, why? Why do you hate Christianity? What does that mean? You know, I'm very spiritual, but I hate organized religion. Why? What do you hate about it? I guess the easiest answer would be, well, because people who participate in religion are imperfect. They're sinners and they do bad things and certainly things I don't like. So you say, okay, well, but that's true in spirituality too. That's true. That's not just true of organized religion. That's true of all of human society and that's true of yourself. So that can't be the distinctive factor. Why? I'd love Tala Rico to answer. for this. This isn't even one of these like gotcha boom dunks, so though it's very easy to do on Tala Rico. This is a real sincere question. Why would you say you hate Christianity? Because to me, Christianity is the consolation, not just to me, it's objectively true. It is the consolation in the

world. We look around the world and we see that it's fallen and broken. We look at all of the goods in our lives, the goods that we do have, and we look forward five seconds from now and we realize, shoot, we're going to have to give them all up and we're going to die. And our loved ones are going to die and people are going to suffer and I'm going to suffer and my loved ones are going to suffer and man this world and the bad people are going to prosper and good people are going to suffer hardship and it's just man this world is tough isn't it and then Christianity says yes it is tough and you will have trouble in this world but have no fear i have overcome the world and the proof of this is that god doesn't just give us a nice flowery poetic revelation

He literally enters into history and proves it by dying on the cross, by performing miracles, by dying on the cross, and by rising again on the third day and ascending into heaven and leaving behind a visible church and miracles throughout history. A visible sign that God actually has overcome the world. That is the only consolation in a fallen world. Plenty of other religions promise a bunch of stuff, but they don't prove it. here we have an actual historical proof of God's consolation.

And so I don't mean to clobber Tala Rico or make a meal out of a cupcake here, but this stupid little line that you hear, you hear it from religious people. Oh, you know, I love God, but I hate Christianity. You hate that God left you a visible church? He says, I'm leaving you a church. Hey, you are Peter and on this rock, I'll build my church. And he leaves us sacraments so that we in this physical temporal realm can interact with the metaphysical and the infinite in sacraments.

He gives us absolution. He says to his priests, he says to his apostles, he says, I give you the power to forgive sins, who sins you forgive or forgiven, who sins you retain or retained. That's a pretty nice aspect of Christianity, that when I sin, I can be forgiven for that. And I can know with certainty that I've been forgiven. This is good stuff.

Christianity says, I'm leaving you my flesh and my blood, and you can eat my flesh and drink my blood. You actually have to. will have life in you. What does he hate about it? I'll tell you what he hates about. What Talariko hates about Christianity is it tells him to do stuff. And he doesn't, he wants to do what he wants to do. He doesn't want to do what God wants to do. Inasmuch as you say, I hate Christianity. I like God, but I hate Christianity. What you were saying is, I like God in as much as I want there to be hope. I want there to be consolation. I want there to be redemption on my terms, not on God's

terms on my terms. And whenever there is a conflict between the self and God, guess who you're going to pick? That's it. This is not just some throwaway stupid line. This is at the heart of what is wrong with liberal religion. And it is why James Talarico when he speaks quotes the Bible real well, just like Satan in the desert. When James Talariko speaks, he sounds a lot more like the Antichrist than he sounds like Christ. This is it. Don't let people get away. with this. Oh, I, you know, I really hate Christianity and I hate Christians, but I love God, do you? Because Christians are the mystical body of Christ, and the church was left here by our Lord, and he says he'll never abandon the church. Don't like that, not letting him get away with that on

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