The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 2012 - Why Is Gen-Z More Politically Extreme Than EVER?

Starting point is 00:00:00 Gen Z is officially the most ideologically extreme generation that we've seen in almost 100 years. Sometimes they're chopping off their body parts and they're trans. Sometimes they're Nazis. The most extreme among them are Nazis chopping their body parts off. But the numbers are in. They are extremely extreme. And no one seems to really appreciate why. There are a lot of theories about it.

Starting point is 00:00:26 Some say it's affordability. it's because of the material conditions of their maybe a little bit of that. Some say, oh, it's the darn TikTok or that's a little bit more of that. We'll get to what is actually doing it. And we will get to the medium, the artistic medium of our political moment, which we haven't covered before yet on this show.

Starting point is 00:00:43 And that is the edit. We will get to the art of the edit. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles show. Welcome back to the show. It's wonderful to be with you. I'm not really with you, by the way. I'm only, I'm kind of secretly, virtually kind of almost with you because I, like many of you, am on a nice 4th of July vacation. I don't do it. I'm not a huge vacation guy, but I'm not going to, look, I'll be back on Monday in the studio, but I couldn't leave you all the way. And actually, this really pertains to what we're talking about on the show today, which is what radicalized Gen Z and maybe what we can do about it. and we'll get into the political edit. But I'll be back. We'll be here on Monday.

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Starting point is 00:03:10 com, promo code Noles, KennawLAS for 30 days of free access. The extremism of Gen Z, I think that is totally without any kind of debate, right? I think everybody basically agrees with that. You got a massive rise in the LGBTQ ideology. NBC reported a couple years ago that 30% of Zumers identify as LGBTQ, L-M-N-O-P, QRSTV. but that's a very very much in flux because it's all fake. But that number has come down a little bit. Nevertheless, you see a lot of sexual radicalism,

Starting point is 00:03:44 and you see a lot of radicalism even on the right. You know, the Zoomers are much more likely to be Nazis than previous generations. And this is not just anecdot. You can see it come up in different reports. Here's one. Here's one study. 14 and a half percent of Gen Z respondents in a 12.5 percent of Gen Z respondents in a 2024 national survey described themselves as ideologically extreme. This is compared to 2.7% of millennials.

Starting point is 00:04:11 So the zoomers are many multiples more likely to call their ideology extreme than the millennials. And the millennials are pretty annoying too. You know, having, as a millennial myself, having lived through the rise of millennials, the political coming of age of millennials, that was really the Obama generation. And they were much more ideological than Gen X. The generation that comes immediately before us, Gen X is not ideological at all. That's the grunge generation, checked out. They just kind of keep to themselves, do their own thing, no one talks about them. The boomers obviously were much more ideological, but the Zoomers really put all of them to shame.

Starting point is 00:04:46 And then there are real practical effects to this. It's not just like edgy commentary. According to Harvard Youth Poll, a relatively recent one shows that 39% say that political violence is acceptable under at least one circumstance. 28% when government violates rights, 12% for fraudulent elections, 11% when someone persists and promotes extremist beliefs, that 11% is really just the libs, the young libs justifying killing ordinary conservatives because they're promoting extremist beliefs. 10% of them show high acceptance of political violence. Obviously, we don't need survey data to show that this happened because we saw it all happen after the killing of Charlie Kirk. One more. I won't

Starting point is 00:05:29 I don't belabor the point on the numbers too much, but just one more pretty damning statistic. Nearly half of Zoomers find it acceptable to forcibly occupy public buildings or kill or physically harm elected officials. Nearly half. That's compared to just 20% of millennials. So it has skyrocketed since the millennials in just one generation. So what's doing it. I think on the left, what they're going to tell you is the reason this is happening is because material conditions have declined. It was easier for our grandparents or our great-grandparents to buy homes than it was for young people to buy homes, which is true. You have to grade it on a curve a little bit because homes now are just much bigger and nicer. But that doesn't matter. That's soft consolation to a zoomer in his 20s who can't afford to buy a house. You say, well, fine, I'll buy a cheaper house, but there aren't any cheaper houses to buy. You add on top of that that you have Haitians who are here with temporary protected status. They were supposed to leave the country in the middle of 2011, I guess it was. They came here in 2010. They were supposed to leave in the middle of 2011. They're still here today. President Trump is trying to remove them. The Supreme Court finally said that I guess sort of maybe they can. Those Haitians here temporarily are more likely to own homes than Zumers in their 20s. So I get it. There's material problems that especially hit Zumers. Hits everybody, but especially hits Zumers. The country has decayed. There's less trust in the institutions. The institutions lie to us. I think a lot of Zumers got radicalized during COVID when they're schooling was taken away from them when their proms were taken away from them, when college was taken away from them in some cases. So there's that, but that's not the main driver. It's not the main

Starting point is 00:07:07 driver. Some people want to blame social media. That's, I think, closer to it. But it's not even just social media. It's the internet and the way that we live. And the obvious expert on this that we have to go back to is the very famous, now somewhat forgotten, theorist of communication, Marshall McLuhan. Marshall McLuhan has his famous maxim. The medium is the message. This has now become a cliche, but it's a keen observation. The medium is the message. Whenever we're talking about what these kids are consuming, we're always talking about the content. All the stupid debates over banning TikTok focused on the types of commentary that you would get on TikTok. This is anti-American. This is pushing Chinese propaganda.

Starting point is 00:07:55 This is sexually lewd. This is this, this is that. That misses 70% of the point. Because for McLuhan, it's not just that the message is the message. It's that the medium is the message. The big problem with TikTok, really, is not any particular reel that you're watching on there. It's TikTok. It's that it's frying our brains and killing our attention spans and we're staring at it all the time, bumping into trees.

Starting point is 00:08:20 That's the problem with TikTok. In other words, the problem is the medium. And a basic way to understand how the medium is the message is think about when TV comes out. When TV comes out, you get, I Love Lucy, you get the nightly news, you get some sports, you get all the content. But it also means that people are staying up later. It also means that now electronic light is even more present in homes. It now means that people are falling asleep to this content. It now means that social events are going to involve all coming together and not playing cards and not talking and not going bowling, but you're just going to sit together silently and watch something. In other words, the medium itself changes human behavior. It changes the way that we think about ourselves. It changes the way we think about politics. And so in so doing, it itself is much more powerful than whatever messages you're getting from My Love Lucy. That is obviously exaggerated. It goes to accelerated when you talk about the Internet.

Starting point is 00:09:20 combined with mobile devices, which is where it really kicks off. Millennials grew up mostly on the internet. I remember when we got our first computer. I remember when we got the internet. I was pretty young. I was five or six years old. And some of my richer friends got it much earlier than that. But it's really marrying that with the mobile device,

Starting point is 00:09:40 such that now you're all, you're just constantly getting that dopamine hit. You're constantly getting shorter and edgier commentary. Because the internet then brings, broke down the monopolies of the news networks and the entertainment networks, all of a sudden you get all these independent creators. But the incentives for independent creators are totally different from the incentives of people who are on networks. I've talked about this a lot with politics and how it affects the way the podcasters and the streamers are changing GOP politics or not.

Starting point is 00:10:09 The differences are when you have a news network, say you have Fox News. Some people are going to be a little more edgy. Some people are going to be a little more mainstream. Some people are going to be a little more liberal even, but they all have to be kind of cohesive within a network. And there are rules regulated in part by the government, in part by the shareholders of news corporation. And so it keeps guardrails around what is going to be said. When you get to independent media, not only do you lose all of those guardrails, you get the exact opposite incentives because now the incentives are constantly to be getting more attention from everyone else. Now all of a sudden, you're not on a team with anybody. You're competing against

Starting point is 00:10:49 everybody. It's a war of all against all. And the currency is eyeballs and attention. The way to get the eyeballs in attention is to be more extreme, especially as political content becomes prominent. You have to be more extreme in your beliefs. I was talking to Palomine who observed that the moment that political media reached its end limit and it can never go any further in its present form was when Kanye went on the Alex Jones show in the mask with the bottle of yuhu and the fly swatter and said, I love Hitler. You can't go any further. There is nothing. You've now violated the mythology, the kind of religion that comes about in the 20th century to replace traditional religion, especially Christianity, where there's no devil, there are no gods, there's nothing supernatural, nothing's enchanted, there's only raw history. there's not the incarnation of perfect good, there's only the incarnation of evil. So it flips Christianity down's head. And who's the worst guy from the 20th century? It's Hitler. So Hitler becomes this figure

Starting point is 00:11:51 who is even more evil than Hitler. And Hitler is a very nasty fellow. But he becomes this absolute incarnation in the imagination of pure evil. Not evil as a deprivation of good. Or sorry, not good as a deprivation of evil, but evil is a deprivation of good. And so the most extreme thing you can possibly say as I love Hitler in that kind of crazy environment. It can't go any further than that. Which means that there's a new kind of, as the medium transforms how we think about politics, that too is going to shape the medium itself. And this has led us to the art form, the pure art form of politics in the year of our Lord, 2006. That is the edit. And we don't, the edit is like a zoomer thing. The edit is not a millennial thing or a Gen X thing. So I have just been given a banquet.

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Starting point is 00:14:09 Then it became podcasts, and now we have arrived at the most powerful political art form of our time. The edit. The edit. The producers have compiled very tippity top, Gen Z, right-wing political edits. Take it away. But it's all right. I'll get another one in London. London. Is that your village?

Starting point is 00:14:35 Yes. It's a very big village. What's it like? Well, it's got streets filled with carriages, bridges over the rivers, and buildings as tall as trees. I'd like to see those things. You will. How? We're going to build them here. We'll show your people how to use this land properly. How to make the most of it.

Starting point is 00:14:54 Make the most of it? Yes. We'll build roads and decent houses and... How houses are fine? You think that, only because you don't know any better. There's so much we can teach you. We've improved the lives of savages all over the world. Savages. It goes hard, except I don't like how long the intro was.

Starting point is 00:15:34 The intro was boring to me. I remember when Pocahontas came out. It's been 84 years. The whole point of the edit is that it just plays on the ever-diminishing attention span of modern people, especially younger people. So you just have to have the rapid sound and the constantly changing pictures. You know, you can't have like a 15-minute intro. So that was, that was weak.

Starting point is 00:16:00 I get the setup, but they should have done the setup in like four seconds. Okay, next one. But the Illuminati aren't just represented by pyramids. They're also represented by an eye. And what do I do? They see. Just like the Mediterranean Sea or Syria or like we mentioned earlier, the Red Sea. That's our second triangle, the triangle of eyes.

Starting point is 00:16:16 And when you put the triangle of pyramids and the triangle of eyes together, what do you get? Two Triangle Star. And what country live is a big star is real. And guess what Israel's national flag looks like. Exactly. It's pretty funny because a lot of the edits I've noticed, they do tend a little touch toward Nazism, which kind of makes sense because it's just the hyper-concentrated form of political media.

Starting point is 00:17:00 So it's got to have the most kind of edgy, extreme thing. Like, you know, it's not going to be about marginal tax rates. So I get that. The thing I can't tell with that edit, though, is, is it ironic or not? It's very hard to tell the difference between the real schizos and the guys just having some fun. Say something. What do you say to a tree? Anything you want. I don't know. And then it brought in UFOs and all that.

Starting point is 00:17:27 It's kind of making me think, though, this idea that you can't have like normie edits. It's got to be just really concentrated, radical extremes. What if we should just start doing normie edits. it's like, you know, like Mitt Romney calling for a slightly lower corporate tax rate. Then it's just like, it's like Himmler shows up, you know, or whatever, like, you know, Genghis Khan, but it's just Romney wanting to save corporations a little bit of money. By lowering those marginal rates, we help businesses that pay at the individual tax rate to have more money so they can hire more people and pay higher wages. My plan is to lower it by 20% and put more people back to it.

Starting point is 00:18:21 Someone should do that. So much to do that. So much should make that. Okay, next one. President Trump looked at the Taliban leader and said this. I want to leave Afghanistan. But it's going to be a conditions-based withdrawal. And translator translated. And he said, if you harm a hair on a single American, I'm going to kill you.

Starting point is 00:18:41 And translator goes, and Trump goes, tell him what I said. Tell him what I said. Reached in his pocket, pulled out a satellite photo. of the leader of the Taliban's home and handed it to him. Shut up. Got up and walked out to the room. Now, the story, the problem with this edit is the story is better than the story is better

Starting point is 00:19:17 than the actual images and music. There are like a billion iconic images of Trump. Why? That was just the same, like two shots from the same event, just back and forth. So it was, that was very low effort on the edit itself. but the story was really good, so it deserved a better montage at the end. Next one. There's a lot more to say first, though, go to takelein.com.

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Starting point is 00:21:23 I can understand that. Very simply, I get it, and then you leave the audience wanting more. So like seven seconds, that was great. Next one. I am European. And I am proud. I am proud of our unparalleled history, culture, and diversity. I am proud of what we have achieved.

Starting point is 00:21:42 civilization. But Europe as we know it, in all its richness and greatness, is under threat by a false representation of our history, present, and future. We are being told lies about who we were, who we are, and who we should be. And those lies need to be challenged. I was just about to do the hand jet. It was great, Eva, you know, very, very compelling spokesman for right-wing Europeanness. And it was good. It was, it was,

Starting point is 00:22:31 it was, sort of seductive enough without being untoward. It was edgy enough without being, you know, sort of radical and pushing

Starting point is 00:22:42 off the normies. It was nice. It was very, very well done, very compelling, obviously. A beautiful edit overall. Next one.

Starting point is 00:22:49 Thought I saw where this was going. Wow. Extremely compelling. I'm not, I'm not being ironic. It's like, that's very, very good political propaganda.

Starting point is 00:23:27 Because it doesn't, it doesn't make any claims. It just connects a bunch of things, like 9-11. It just sort of implicitly blames on the Jews, like lets the Muslims off the hook and implicitly blames them on the Jews without ever really claiming that. And then connects the Star of David to the Freemasons. Even though the Freemasons, I don't think allowed Jews in, which is why the Jews created their own Freemasons called Bainibirith. in my limited understanding of Freemasonry and Judaism,

Starting point is 00:23:57 and then connects it to like Saturn, so there's this kind of cosmic sense of it, and then the contrast with Christianity. It's very, very good political propaganda because it makes you feel something. It like plays on antipathies and attraction and desire without ever having to make a claim or defend a claim. Not, yeah, you're going to, whoever made it.

Starting point is 00:24:20 They probably have some problems with their ideology, we might have to say, but very, very talented at propaganda. Who is it? Noddy, like, K-N-O-T-T-Y or N-A-U-G-A, like, like, burr. Yeah, okay, that's not surprising. Next one. You know, I remember this is like months ago, Brett Cooper texted me and said, I hadn't talked to her in a while, and she said, hey, Michael, wanted to call your attention. There are apparently Thurstrap edits of you on TikTok. And then I was somewhere like someone like a stranger came up to me and mentioned this in public, which is great.

Starting point is 00:25:16 And I encourage more of them. I'm Michael Nolz. See you next time. My brain is fried. I'm Michael Nolz. It's the Michael Null show. See you later.

The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 2012 - Why Is Gen-Z More Politically Extreme Than EVER?

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