The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 2063 - Lindsay Clancy's Husband Finally Breaks His Silence In New Interview

Episode Date: September 18, 2026

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some Democrats are finally trying to distance themselves from left-wing thought leader, Hassan Piker. Sort of, kind of. And not for the reasons you think. We will continue to struggle session the Piker Party. Then the lone juror in the Lindsay Clancy case and even Patrick Clancy himself break their silence and speak out in two new interviews which are anthropologically and even theologically illuminating. And Ed Shearin fires McElmore from his tour for blabbing about Israel and Palestine. And somehow AOC is getting

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Head on over. Heaven and Stone and Glass.com for parish and larger group tickets. Go to Heaven and Stone and Glass.com slash group. Democrats are finally trying to distance themselves from Hassan Piker. Kind of sort of. I have said for weeks now, maybe months at this point, I said, keep up the Hassan Piker pressure. Hassan Piker pressure is great. It is forcing the Democrats into an impossible situation because

Hassan Piker is ballot box poison on the one hand. He repels anyone who's even remotely normal, but he also perfectly represents the heart of the left-wing coalition and the Democrat Party. So they can't really disavow him, but they also can't embrace him. He's a perfect wedge. I said, keep up the pressure on Hassan Piker. Everyone has been doing this. that, I'm certainly not the only person, I think, who's concluded that that's a great tactic. And the Democrats are finally, after months of squirming, they're finally responding. They are doing their very best to wriggle out of their Piker problem. Said that America is the top dog in terrorism.

Yes. Do you think America then is worse than Al Qaeda? Pound for pound, as far as the number of deaths, yes, we've caused tremendous terror all around the world. Hassan Piker told Axios that America is pound for pound worse than Al-Qaeda. He's wrong. He's been on the campaign. He's wrong. Senator Hassan Piker just told Axios that he thinks the United States is pound for pound worse than al-Qaeda.

Do Democrats, especially, Abdulsaid, need to do more to distance themselves for them? I don't know this guy, but obviously that's a sentence that makes no sense. How? How? Turkish men speak with forked tongue. I'm interpreting Elizabeth Warren into her native language, of course. But you can see, she laughs, she dismisses. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

You know, underneath that facade, there is a real anxiety there. It's this anxiety of the whole Democrat Party, which is, shoot, I cannot be seen to agree with this person. But I can't totally diss this person because this person represents a huge part of the Democrat base. He's the most popular left-wing streamer. He is the closest thing that the Democrats have to a thought leader right now. So what does Elizabeth Warren do? She just kind of minimizes him. Oh, ha ha, I don't know that person.

You don't know that person? Really? You don't know about Hassan Piker? Because he's all anybody's been asking you about for weeks now. Oh, but that sentence, that statement, it doesn't really make a lot of sense. Ha ha ha ha ha. What was the statement? The statement was America's worse in al-Qaeda.

America deserves 9-11. It's all the kind of violent. anti-American rhetoric that you've been hearing from Piker in really explicit evocative terms, but you've heard the same kind of anti-American rhetoric from every mainstream Democrat. Right down to Barack Obama saying, I want to fundamentally transform this country. When you say I want to fundamentally transform the country, your implication is the country is terrible. This is an awful country.

That's why you've got to change it. All these leftists who say, America was founded in oppression, in slavery, in patriarchy, in white supremacy, there's structural racism, there's system. systemic oppression, even to this day. They're all saying exactly the same thing as Hassan Piker. Asan Piker, to his credit, just has the honesty to go all the way and say, yeah, America deserves 9-11. We're worse than Al-Qaeda. I wipe myself with the American flag, and we should kill the Republicans. That is implied by all the mainstream Democrat politicians. When you actually get down to principle, there's no disagreement between them. It's just a difference in degree. It's a difference in the

provocation of the rhetoric. Representative Debbie Dingle, what a name. For me, Michigan, a real hot spot here because there's this highly contested Senate race with Abdul El-Said versus Mike Rogers, one where Abdul al-Said begged Hassan Piker to campaign with him before that became politically inconvenient. Debbie Dingle in Michigan saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, can we please knock it off with the Piker questions? Okay, I want to say this at this point. I'm so sick of talking about Hassan Piker and I want Hassan Piker to go away. I don't know why he had to do that interview. Everything he said in that interview is deeply. Look, the bombing of the school in Iran was horrific. We shouldn't be in the war in Iran.

We continued to vote for it. This election is about to Adol Siaz, not Hassan Piker. I want, what he has said, I think Israel's got a right to exist, quite frankly, the things he has said about women are horrific. I don't understand. I keep telling people, someone explain to me why he has so many followers. But he is not, if he wants to see a... Abdullah Elsead elected stop going on television. Abdul has got to make it clear that he does not agree with the things that he has said.

Has he made that clear? I don't think so. Have you made that clear either? I don't think so. So she gets this question and what does she say? She goes, I'm so sick of talking about Hassan Piker. Stop asking me about Hassan Piker. Stop it. So she's saying this is very inconvenient for me. She's very defensive on this. Why is she so defensive? If someone came up to me, and said, Michael, David Duke said such and such and such, how do you respond? I say, I don't care what David Duke says. David Duke doesn't represent me. What do I care what he says? I'm not going to get defensive. I'm not going to get my blood up. I'm not going to spike my cortisol, as Mr. Clavicular would observe. I say, oh, yeah, well, I don't know, whatever he said, I don't care, go talk to him.

The reason she's getting defensive is because she knows that Hassan Piker is the de facto leader of the Democrat Party, that Hassan Piker is the thought leader of the American left. And she admits it, by the way, in the same breath. She says, the things that Hassan Piker said are so horribly if, I mean, I guess he has a point on the bombing in Iran. She can't even get the sentence out. She says, oh, this is Hassan Piker. I want nothing to do with him. I don't agree with him about it. I mean, actually, I do kind of agree with him. You know, he actually makes a pretty good point. But hold on. Sorry, I didn't mean to say that. No, no, no, no. We need to, he needs to stop talking. Because why? Because this election is about Abdul al-Sayad, not Hassan Piker. Oh yeah? Well, five minutes ago,

Abdul al-Syad begged Hassan Piker to come campaign with him. Hassan Piker has appeared with Abdul-Syad multiple times. So if you say it's about Abdul-Syad, okay, great, I have a question about Abdul-Syad. Why is he begging Hassan Piker to campaign with him? It's not just Abdul-Syad. It's Zohan-Mam-Dani. It's AOC. It's Rashida Talib.

It's Ilhan Omar. It's Ro Khanna. Ro Kana, who's a very mainstream Democrat. The list goes on and on and on. We're talking about dozens of prominent Democrat politicians. So you can't just say it's some fringe guy on the left. And then she realizes, shoot, I meant to attack his rhetoric, Hassan Pikers, and then I accidentally found myself agreeing with his rhetoric in the same breath on the same point.

Hassan Piker says, America's worse in al-Qaeda because America bombed a school in Iran. Now, America didn't target the school in Iran. America didn't target civilians. America didn't target civilians to achieve a political end, which is what al-Qaeda explicitly does. What America did in Iran and what every country does in every war is sometimes, they accidentally kill civilians when they're targeting militants. It's very sad, but it's totally different from terrorism. Not according to Debbie Dingell, not according to the Democrats. She goes, no, no, no, that specific point that Asan Piker made, it's so offensive. I mean, he's kind of right, but, I mean, it's about Abdul-Saiyad who loves Asan Piker. I mean, and she realizes she has to

criticize some of his actual rhetoric. So what does she do? Does she say, it's awful that he says he wipes himself with the American flag? Does she say, it's awful that he says we should murder Republican senators. It's awful that he personally fantasized about murdering Charlie Kirk before one of his fellow travelers actually did it. No, she doesn't say any of that. You know what she says? She goes, he's not feminist enough. Seriously? Seriously, that's your criticism? That's what's, oh, the things he's said about women. No, hold on. Yeah, okay, he's said bad things about women. He tortured his dog. He's done a lot of bad things. I'm more interested in what he's said about America. And you seem to agree with what he's said about America.

In this very interview lady. Oh, yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, I think, yeah, Israel has a right to exist. In other words, her criticism of his rhetoric is he's a little bit too genocidey, a little, a little touch heavy on the genocide rhetoric. And he's not sufficiently feminist, but really, I just wish he would go away because he's inconvenient. The Democrats' opposition to Piker right now is purely tactical. How does she conclude this whole diatribe? She says, if he wants to see Abdul al-Saiad elected to the Senate, he needs to shut his trap. Not ultimately, by the end of this interview, she's not really saying I disagree with

Asam Piker. She's not persuasively saying that. She's not really saying that he's wrong. She's not really saying that Abdul al-Saiad disagrees with him. She's trying to say that, but it's not persuasive because we know that Abdul al-Saiad does agree with Osamaik. He said it many times. What she says is,

He needs to shut his trap because otherwise voters are going to figure out what we really think, and then Abdul is going to lose. It's purely a tactical frustration, which means the Republicans must, must keep up the struggling. Okay, speaking of speaking out, the holdout juror in the Lindsay Clancy case is finally speaking out after weeks of reporting on his identity, after he was doxed, after his family has been harassed, after all sorts of attacks on his character. We'll get to that. also Lindsay Clancy's husband is speaking out to Patrick Clancy on the newly revamped 60 minutes with Ross Doutet.

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She was horrified. She was puking and screaming when she found out. She says, wait, hold on. You're telling me the holdout juror was a black man. Hold on. Wow. Wait, I have to sit with that for a second. Then we find out he's apparently a devout Catholic. He's a Haitian immigrant. It's kind of funny. It also confounds the left and the rights reaction to this thing. Anyway, Michael. Desronville is responding to specific accusations. One of them was, then you saw this in some of the reporting coming from the female jurors, that he's just a dumb idiot. He's just a stupid black man who didn't understand the instructions from the judge. That was the accusation that was made against him.

The judge said that he had to believe that she was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, and he expressed to us that he had reasonable doubts about her guilt, but he voted guilty anyway. This dumb guy, this dumb man, black man, with his religion, ignoring the law and the instructions. Well, he just responded to that. He said, they're just making that up. He said in an interview with News Nation, I did not have any doubts. As I tried to explain different possible theories during the liberation, I kept getting cut off as if I had doubts based on the evidence present. I love his explanation. He goes, yeah, it's so weird. I was in this room filled with. with 10 crazy women, 10, like, particularly insane women. And as I tried to speak, they kept

cutting me off. Isn't that so strange? It's shocking, right? Based on all the physical evidence, key witnesses, and what the prosecution presents, I thought it was proof enough that she, Lindsay Clancy, knew exactly what she was doing and planned. In other words, he followed the judge's instructions to a T. His female jurors, by the way, did not. His female jurors, when they were haranguing him when they were trying to struggle session Michael Desronville. They were violating the judge's instructions. They were violating jury procedure. They were bringing in supposed evidence from nurses, for instance, who were on the jury that was not presented in the court. You're not allowed to consider that when you're deliberating as a juror. So they were the ones who were breaking the judge's

instructions. They were the ones who were violating the procedures. Not this guy, this lone guy who stood up against these lunatics in favor of justice. Really, really good stuff. in a world of Lindsay Clancy's, we all endeavor to be that Catholic, Haitian, black guy. We should all, that is something to aim for. Really good stuff. I'm almost ready to call for him to receive the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Really good stuff. And I'm glad he can clear the record as people are really, really attacking his character.

Now, speaking in the Clancy case, shocking stuff, Patrick Clancy, the husband of Lindsay Clancy, is speaking out now. This is a guy who has endured basically the worst thing. you can possibly imagine, maybe the single worst thing you can possibly even fathom. He is sitting down on 60 minutes with Ross Douthout. The interview is not out yet. I guess it'll come out this Sunday. Ross, who was the conservative at the New York Times and a very thoughtful conservative columnist, Ross left the New York Times to take this gig at 60 minutes. And so this is the revamping, the big launch, and the big launch is with Patrick Clancy. They've released little 10-second snippets of the interview. Here's the one that's going most viral.

I talk to them. What do you say? Help me all the time. Who is them here? Them is his children. Ross is asking, you know, tell me about how you think about your kids now after they were brutally murdered by their mother. And he says, I talk to them all the time. Now, this is a coping mechanism that a lot of people do when a loved one dies.

is they were talking to these people and then when they're gone, whether you talk about your mother or your grandmother or especially your little kids, they're gone suddenly unexpectedly, and it's very natural to keep trying to talk to them. He says, I talk to them all the time. What do you say? This is the part that is most illuminating. He says, I ask them to help me.

So there are two reactions to this online. One of them is, this poor guy. The good reaction online is, this poor guy. This guy has clearly been through about the worst drama you can imagine. He clearly is showing signs of PTSD and he's coping any way he can. You know the other reaction online? The other reaction online is, uh, he's not reacting the way I want him to react. He's a sociopath. He, maybe he did it. This is an argument that some of Lindsay Clancy's insane supporters have been promoting, even though Lindsay Clancy herself does not promote that, even though Lindsay Clancy's

lawyer does not promote that. Lindsay Clancy and Lindsay Clancy's lawyer both admit she murdered those children, but some of her insane supporters among the SSRI set of the lunatic ladies on the internet, they're saying, no, no, no, no, you don't know. You don't understand what happened. It was actually the husband. So you are seeing a deluge of vicious attacks on Patrick Clancy. He's not grieving in the right way. He's not grieving the way that I would expect him to grieve. He's not grieving in a way that I approve of. The same sort of thing you see on the internet with Erica Kirk after the murder of her husband that you see with a lot of people that reveal something personal, that give a lot of vulnerability, and that is always exploited on the internet. One tactical point that I would make

is in as much as it is possible, with big public events, sometimes it's not possible. But in as much as it is not possible, I'm very much of the old school. We live in a very confessional age. We live in an age where everything that was once private is now being made public. Mothers are filming, giving breakfast to their kids all the time. They're turning their private home life into some kind of reality TV show on Instagram. People, men are crying in public. People just reveal a lot about themselves. They make personal confessions to everybody. They do it in public. I think that's a bad idea. I'm of the old school. I am of the Tony Soprano ilk. You know, whatever happened, guys like Gary Cooper, I think that you need to keep a lot of these things to yourself.

In a case like Lindsay Clancy or Erica Kirk or whatever, you know, any of these big public murder cases, your public figures. So, you know, you're kind of limited with what you can do. But for the people who are private, the reactions to these cases to a grieving widow or to a grieving father in this case. The reactions of people online reveal, one, that the imagination of man's heart is evil from his very youth, as we, I'm not the first to observe it. But two, there's a great deal of power in playing things a little closer to the best. I think that's tactically just a better idea in as much as you can, because people will tear apart anyone online, including a guy like Patrick Clancy, who is just...

of the most victimized people you've ever seen in your life. But before we move on from him, I do want to get to the theological point. Because those are the two reactions. Oh, this poor guy, he's coping. He's imagining himself talking to his kids. Oh, that's kind of, he's asking them for help. That's kind of weird. Or he's a vicious sociopath, and I'm team Lindsay, and we need to free the woman who killed her children. There is a third observation here, though, which is that what Patrick Clancy is saying specifically is perfectly in case. keeping with the Christian tradition. This is a profound theological insight. As far as I can tell from the reporting, Patrick Clancy's kids were baptized. This is the one consolation in the whole case.

They were baptized and they were below the age of reason. So according to traditional Christian teaching, those kids are in heaven. We can know with certainty that they are in heaven because the stain of original sin was washed away in the waters of baptism, and they were not yet old enough to incur personal sin, because a three-year-old can't incur personal sin, because a three-year-old does not have sufficiently developed faculties of reason and discipline. So the traditional Christian teaching, I know people's mileage may vary here with their own theological views, but the traditional teaching, the teaching that is still held by the Catholic Church and by the Eastern Orthodox Church and by the more traditional forms of Protestantism

is that we're born with original sin. Baptism washes that away. We can't know with certainty where adults go when they die, whether they are damned or whether they receive eternal glory. That's up to God. Only God judges. We can know, I guess, in certain limited cases of the canonized saints. And there's a period of purgation, which comes from Paul's letter to the Corinthians and the fires of purgatory and whatever. We don't need to get into some deep theological conversation about all of those different disagreements. At the very basic level, however, Christians have agreed, basically unanimously for all of history, that little kids who die after baptism before the age of reason, they go straight up to heaven. And the other thing that Christians

have agreed about for basically all of history, and it's basically all of the Christians, is that we can pray to the saints and ask for their help. That in the book of the apocalypse, in the book of Revelation, the saints are holding buckets, and the buckets are filled with the prayers of the saints. But who are the saints praying for? They're not praying for the people in heaven. They're already in eternal glory.

They're not praying for the damned in hell. The damned in hell have no hope of getting out. They're praying for us. And so when Patrick Clancy comes out and he says, I talk to my kids all the time, and I ask for their help. The Christian views this, not just as a coping mechanism. The Christian views this as a profound and accurate theological insight. That is exactly what he should do. He shouldn't even pray to help

them. If he's a Christian, he believes that they're in heaven. They're not even in purgatory. They're in heaven. And as saints in heaven, we can call on the communion of saints to pray for us. What he's doing, it's a profound statement of faith. Really beautiful stuff. Your heart just breaks for the guy. So we should all pray for Patrick Clancy. And I at least, you know, believing in the more traditional Christian view of these things, I certainly believe that we can pray to the kids as well and ask for their prayers for him and for all of us.

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The alarm goes off at a certain time, coffee happens at a certain time, workouts get scheduled, meetings go on the calendar. We even get reminders from our phones, telling us when to stand up. Then prayer somehow is relegated to I'll find the time. It happens to me sometimes. I try to say my daily prayers, basically the same ones every single day. And then I'm, I'm diligent about it mostly because I know that my life goes off the rails when I don't say my daily prayers. And still, even I, sometimes it's 10 o'clock at night on a Saturday. I say, I haven't said my prayers yet today. It's very frustrating. Don't let that be you. One thing I love about Hallow's 21 days of prayer challenge makes it very, very simple for 21 days in 10.

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pregnancy tests draw a misleading somewhat arbitrary binary between the state of being pregnant and not being pregnant you can be kind of pregnant a little bit pregnant or almost pregnant or maybe pregnant and still test positive for pregnancy. Pregnancy tests, particularly at-home urine tests, capture a moment in time at which an embryo has implanted and is interfacing with the uterus in some way. We define how we understand the beginning

of pregnancy based on this snapshot, but such a freeze frame contains limited information. A Porva Tadapali writes, read more about the difficult task of determining when pregnancy actually begins. Click the link. And then you click the link and it immediately asks you to subscribe before you can read anything. Just before you, I know that your blood is getting up. I know that your cortisol is spiking to once again reference our friend clavicular. I know you think and all of that. That's bait. You know that's bait, right? We're talking at the top of the show about tactics. That is a tactic. What they wrote is total nonsense. You can be kind of of pregnant. Of course you cannot.

Pregnancy begins when the sperm meets the egg and a new biological creature is formed that is distinct from the sperm and the egg and distinct from the mother and the father. That is genetically and embryologically fully human, but is not synonymous with the humanity of the mother or the father. That's when it begins. There is no liminal space. There is no middle ground. In fact, if you looked at it under a very, very small microscope, you would see a flash of light when life begins. It's that distinct. It's that binary. There is no Schrodinger's baby. You cannot be kind of pregnant. She says, you can be a little bit pregnant. You're either pregnant or you're not. You can be almost pregnant. That is also not true. Even if you took a snoburn. You can be a

snapshot one millisecond before the sperm meets the egg, you are not almost pregnant because the sperm might fail. Couples who deal with infertility know this all the time. There's no almost pregnant. You're pregnant or you're not. You could be maybe pregnant. I guess that's true, but that's not a reflection on the nature of the pregnancy. That's a reflection on the nature of your intellect. You don't know whether or not you are pregnant, but you are or you are not. And you can still test positive for pregnancy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Read about the difficult task of when pregnancy actually begins. That's just rage bait. No one at the New Yorker is making a serious statement about pregnancy or about abortion or about the pro-life movement. No one here is making a good

faith argument. None of that. This is simply a business tactic to get you angry and talking about it. It worked. I'm talking about it. And to get you to give them $5.99 a month or whatever it costs to subscribe to the New Yorker. That's all that is. And I mention it, one, to clear the air, people are talking about it because the tactic work. But two, because you have only so many days on earth. You have things that you are called to do. You have you have responsibilities that you have to look after and you have people that you have to care for. And one day you will die. And you cannot allow yourself. I urge you not to allow yourself to be distracted by taking the bait every single time. That's pure bait. We don't have to engage with it. You can, in fact, ignore the New Yorker.

I know that I did not ignore the New Yorker, but I was doing it for a greater purpose. show you. We're talking all about tactics today. That's one of them. Okay. Speaking of rage, rage baiting and rage itself. Have you heard, I wasn't even going to cover it because I don't really care about it, but it's a big, big news story. Ed Sheeran, a very talented singer-songwriter and a guy who married his high school sweetheart, or at least a girl who was friends with in high school. It's a really sweet story, especially given the absolute decadence and debauchery of Hollywood in the music industry. Ed Sheeran invites this guy, McElmore, onto his tour. I could not pick McElmore out of a lineup. I could not tell you a single

Macklemore song. I've heard the name before. He's some popular guy, I guess. Ed Shearren invites McElmore onto his tour. Ed Shearren builds up this whole tour and he says, hey, if you want to come on this tour, you can come on this tour. And what does McElmore do? He immediately makes the tour all about his own political views. Ed Shearin assiduously attempts to avoid talking about politics. He's just an entertainer. Like Michael Jordan, he says, Republicans by sneakers too. I don't want to get involved in controversial political issues. Maclemore comes out. He goes, free Palestine!

You know, down with Israel, free Palestine. And it's now become so political that some of the tour venues and managers they called on Ed Shearin to kick McElmore off the tour. Ed Shearin did kick Maclemore off the tour. Now, TMZ is asking AOC AOC about it, and AOC feels

passionately about the Ed Shear and McElmore controversy. Hey, if Ed Shearin comes on the radio while you're driving along are you changing the channels? I am. You are? Yeah, why is that? I think that what we've seen especially it's not just what has happened with the act and not just in removing Macklemore from the lineup but when you see what Robert Kraft did to line up all of the stadiums to censor speech in that one specific way it's become clear that this is not just about

one music artist or two music artists, but this is about how just a handful of stadium owners and the elite can prevent an entire massive issue, in this case the genocide in Gaza, but it doesn't stop there. It could be speaking out about AI. It could be speaking out about any issue that you can now just get a handful of stadium owners to ensure that an entire person's career can be jeopardized if they speak out about any issue. The supporting acts have dropped down, but Ed Sheareran, I think will still continue with the tour. What do you think his responsibility is in all of this? You know, I don't know, but, you know, I think that because you never see these contracts and I have no idea what the financial entanglements of all that is, but I do think that, you know, I think that the right thing to do is to speak out about it. Okay, all right. So you get her point. You got to speak out. I don't know all the story, but you got to

speak out. And, you know, this was really about the stadium owners and a small group of people shutting down political speech. Can I just say she's kind of right? She, hold on. She's not right, but she makes at least one good point. There was no popular uproar. over McElmore being on the tour. There was no popular blowback against Ed Sheeran from the audience, from the fans, because McElmore is super pro-Palestine

and anti-Israel or whatever. I think he is that. I don't know. I haven't even looked into his views that closely, but that's what I gather from the reporting. There was no popular uproar. It was a very, very small group of powerful people in the music industry

who shut down McElmore. That's true. She's right about that. She's right. And she says, this is a grave, terrible threat. One way I know that there was no popular uproar is that since February of this year, for the first time ever in my lifetime, the pro-Palestine movement is more popular with the American

public than the pro-Israel movement. This is weird. And it was, I think, Gallup polling. In the Middle East situation, are you sympathies more with the Israelis or more with the Palestinians? For the first time ever, at least in recent memory, this poll goes all the way back to 2002, just in February of this year, America flipped. more pro-Palestine than pro-Israel.

41 to 36. The rest of the people don't have an opinion or don't care. So she's right. It's not about a popular uproar. However, first of all, 41 to 36, that's pretty tight. Okay, so that means there are a lot of people who are quite pro-Israel, who are quite anti-Palestine. Even if more people are pro-Palestine, that's a controversial issue for a music venue. That's true.

And even if it's true that a small number of people shut down this political speech, I don't seem to recall AOC having a trouble with that before. You remember going back, I don't know, at least 10 years now, really going back like 50 or 60 years, you remember when a very small group of people controlled the establishment media, TV news media, Hollywood, the new media, Facebook, YouTube, all that, and they shut down conservative speech all the time. I remember that because I was part of that, because I was one of the people who was censored. Do you remember, you don't even have to go back that far. You remember during COVID when a very small group of people,

who controlled YouTube and Facebook and at one point Twitter, when they censored conservatives for saying, hey, maybe this vaccine doesn't work that well. Hey, maybe putting a hanky on our face won't stop people from getting the flu. Hey, maybe we shouldn't shut down the entire world over a sniffle. Remember that and people lost their lives? Remember when people raised questions about all of the changes to the electoral system around the 2020 election and they got all of their social media accounts nuked, not because of a popular uprising, but because of the powerful control of a small group of people.

I don't remember AOC speaking up then. She's just irritated because she hates Israel and she loves Palestine or whatever. So now that this is her hobby horse political issue, now it's a big deal. And furthermore, beyond all of this, you say, you're setting down political speech. Good. I want political speech shut down at my concerts. Ed Sheeran, whose concert it is, wanted political speech shut down. Not because he's super left-wing or super right-wing, but because he realizes that

is not what concerts are for. Concerts are for entertainment. Johnny Carson was a huge lib. He was like a huge lib. But Johnny Carson realized that if he was pontificating about his politics every night, people would tune him out. So he kept his mouth shut on politics. He's the most popular television late night host that's ever existed. Elvis Presley, he had political views. He was asked about them all the time. He said, I prefer to keep them to myself. I'm an entertainer. Dolly Parton said the same thing. Even the Beatles, who were obviously, obviously kind of lib, but even the Beatles on politics basically kept their mouth shut because they said that's not what this is for. Michael Jordan, the greatest basketball player ever.

He said Republicans wear sneakers too. McElmore is entirely in the wrong here. AOC is entirely hypocritical here. Ed Sheeran is the victim, and this is what he gets for trying to help out a friend. Totally outrageous. AOC kind of has a point, but she never applies that point to her own side, to her own side's violations. And she totally misunderstands the purpose of entertainment. Okay, I have so much more to get to. I have so much more to get to. Abdul al-Sayyad admitting that the affordability thing is a complete joke.

CNN. Great news on CNN about how nearly half of Michiganers say they won't elect a Muslim president, maybe because they saw Run Hyde Fight Infidels on Dailywire.com. My favorite comment yesterday, there were three. There were three. I had to do three because they were all too good. Regarding that man, the white guy in New York who looked like Shaggy, who tried to do an ISIS attack, this is from overtost, says, Zoink Scoob! Like glory to Allah! And like, blessed be the prophet Muhammad!

From the drummer's workshop, Norm's Music, he was promised 72 Scooby Snacks in heaven. And from XS. Hally or Solid 1194, this one doesn't relate to the Scooby-Doo thing. This is more to the point on the difference between the left and the right. he sums it up very well. He says, conservatives, we might hate each other, but we absolutely love our country. That's so true. You put it very, you put it better than I could. That's true. The left, they all agree with each other. The only times they get frustrated with each other is when some of them are being too honest like Asan Piker right now. But they all basically agree.

And they, to varying degrees, hate the country. They either think it's a terrible country with an original sin and with a lot of oppression that we need to fix and fundamentally transform, or they think like America deserves 9-11 and we're worse terrorists in al-Qaeda. But that's the left. Whereas on the right, all the people on the right hate each other and the paleos hate the neos and the libertarians hate the treds and on and on and on and all the individual pundits and politicians hate each other's guts. And it's just, it's really, they're very divided. But they're united in one thing. They all love the country. And those are the differences. It's just, it's the heat map of affection. The left is just not patriotic and like actively contemptuous of the country and the right for all their disagreements. They love the. the country. Okay. It's time for my favorite time of the week. The voice and video mailbag brought to you by Pure Talk. We love our friends at Pure Talk. Go to Pure Talk.com slash Knowles today. It occurred to us yesterday. Someone sent in a video. They said, hey, Michael, I know I'm supposed to do a voice mailbag, but I'm going to send in a video mailbag question. I said, why don't we do video mailbag?

So from now on, if you want to send a video mailback question in, get your face on the show, you may do that. That's open. I said to the team, I said, why didn't you think of this? I didn't, I didn't say, why didn't I think of this? I said, why didn't you think of this? Take it away. So I have been listening to your show for six years now, and I pretty much don't miss an episode. And I am the Catholic.

When I first started listening to your show, I considered myself to be a libertarian. And you actually helped me realize that those things don't go hand in hand. So thank you for that. But I have a very important question for you. I saw Ben Shapiro at the RNC just last week. And I brought this up to him. And I'm hoping to bring it up to you to persuade both of you. I remember years ago, there was a bet between the Daily Wire hosts

where you all started a fantasy football league. And the loser of said league was supposed to wear a what is a woman t-shirt on the sidelines of a WNBA game. Now, again, I don't miss an episode and I feel like that bet quietly went away because I never heard anything about it ever again. So my request for you is to revive the bet, especially because of the media coverage that the WNBA is currently getting. I feel like it is a great time to collect on that and get one of you guys on the sidelines. So let me know.

so right. I love everything about your question. The whole one that you've watched the show for six years, I'm very honored. Two, that you were a libertarian. Now you've gone a little more traddy, a little more conservative, love that. The Catholic faith love that. But you're right. Mr. Matt Walsh owes us a seat at the WNBA because he lost, I think if memory serves, he lost that bet. Mr. Matt Walsh. I call him Matt Welch. if he is not going to have to go endure a WMBA game. So I agree. He needs to go do it. I want to start a campaign.

You get Walsh to go to that game. Wonderfully stated. Okay, next question. Morning, Michael. I was hoping you could expound a little bit more on something you say all the time, namely the T loss of sex is the generation and education of children and the mutual support of the spouses.

Generation of children, totally get it. Mutual support of the spouses makes perfect sense. Could you explain a little bit more about, how sex educates the children. Thanks. Yeah, no, I'm not, I'm not suggesting we like bump uglies in front of kids to like teach them a lesson or something. I'm using education in its older sense, in its fuller sense, which is today we narrowly think of education as learning, reading, writing, and arithmetic in a classroom. But education at the fullest sense really means to raise a child. So there's a moral education, there's an aesthetic. education. There's an education into manners and patriotism and civics, along with the liberal arts and

engineering and how to fix a sink. All of that is education, but it means to raise, to rear, to raise up a kid. So marriage is for that too. Because you can produce a kid outside of marriage. And it's pretty much just as easy to produce a kid with a lady you met at a bar last night as it is to produce a kid with your wife. But it's much harder to educate the kid with the lady you met at the bar last night than it is to educate the kid with your wife. So the T-loss of marriage, the purpose of marriage, the thing that defines marriage in its nature, is that it is a lifelong union between a man and a woman ordered toward the procreation and raising, rearing education of children. And another good of marriage is the mutual support of the spouses. But that's not really the chief

end of marriage. The thing that separates marriage from all sorts of other unions is that it is ordered toward the procreation and education of children. Okay, next question. Hey, are you just like making up this child of yours that's coming, this little daughter, allegedly, because I feel like your wife's been pregnant for a while. And I'm just wondering, like, when are we going to have a little girl knows? You don't have to tell me exactly when. But if you took a a day or two off, no one would be upset, we would be fine, we'd still subscribe and all that. So just wanted to let you know that. And I hope it all goes well. That's very kind. Thank you. I appreciate the encouragement and the reassuring that you won't all

just disappear if I take a day or two off. I probably won't take a day or two off anyway. The baby is real. You're right. Sweet little Lisa has been pregnant for a long time. She's about 58 months pregnant now, I think. The baby's coming very, very shortly. Someone has asked, What is Daily Wire's paternity leave policy? I said after I caught my breath from the wheezing laughter, I said it's usually about 15 minutes. Usually get it, but you're allowed to go to the hospital, at least to, you know, see the kid right when he or she comes out.

But then we'll be back in the studio. So I'm going to try. I'm going to try not to miss a show. You know what I mean? I love doing the show. I love being with you. So I don't, some people they don't, some people, they don't want to go to work, you know, and, but I have a fake job. Like, I don't have a real job. I work all the time, but I don't have a real job. So I love doing the show. I don't want to leave you an alert, especially right before the midterm. So I'll take some time. Maybe I'll just come in and do the show and then I'll go home and probably do some other work, but probably not actually help out that much with the kid anyway. But I'll spend time with my wife and my children and all that. But it is happening soon. So your prayers are greatly appreciated. I want to do more mailback questions. Keep going. Good morning, Michael. This is Arun. So regarding this beau friend,

guy. Obviously, as an Indian, I do not wish him success in his campaign, but I do want all of the other Texas Republicans to win, and I am worried that he's going to take down the entire Republican ticket in Texas with him. As you know, racist Republican candidates have done very poorly in primaries. I'm thinking specifically about James Fishback and Casey Putch. Now, this guy, Bo, only won his primary by 1% of the vote, and I suspect it's because a lot of his comments went under the radar. Most recently, he's gotten in trouble for telling Indians that were not real Americans. Before that, he said that Chinese aren't real Americans. And before that, he said that Native Americans should be deported. Now, the electorate of Texas is only 46% white.

And probably those guys don't like his comments either. Do you think that it's time to give him the grand platinum treatment before he hands the Senate over to the Democrats? Thank you, as always, for your wisdom. Yeah, good, good question. We can't give him the Grand Platner treatment because the Dems played Platner right. And I called it, by the way, I totally, you know, I hate to say I told you so. I called this on the Sean Hannity Show. When there were some questions back Graham Platner, I said, the Dems are preparing to usher him off the stage. And they're going to do it in just the right amount of time that they're not going to suffer electorally for it. And it looked like it was too late, but I said it's not too late. And they're beginning, they're setting the stage in the New York Times. And then with this hit and then with that hits, the same thing that they did to Swolewell in California. They knew he couldn't win, so they were going to just nail him for other things that they previously ignored. That's exactly what happened to Platner. The problem is we can't do that with Beau French because it's too late. You can't replace him with another candidate. He's running for Texas Agriculture Commissioner. So he made these comments that offended a lot of people where he was going

after these Indian students at Texas A&M. And he was raising an interesting point about demographic change and mass migration. But the way in which he did it, offended a lot of people. And so to your point, Arun, he's not going to, he's going to struggle electorally, I think. I don't think he's going to pull down the Republican ticket because I think there are bigger waves in this election. I think there are many bigger factors at the national level economically with regard to the Iran war. I don't think he's going to play a huge role. If Tala Rico wins, for instance, I don't think it's going to be Beau French's fault. But we can't, we can't platinum him because it's too late. The Democrats played the Platner thing really, really well, and we were just not as careful. We were just not

as precise with our candidates. And I think you can wriggle out of it a little bit and say, no, no, I'm not, if Beau French adjusts his rhetoric to say, I'm not talking about all Indians or all Chinese or this or that, I'm just trying to call attention to the anxiety of mass migration and demographic displacement. I think he can kind of wriggle out of it. Whereas for Platner, you know, he was a Nazi rapist, so allegedly. So you can't, it's not like, oh, I didn't realize this, wait, hold on, swastika on my face? That's a Nazi symbol? No, no, I'm an Indian. Bo French hates me. No, that's not going to work. No, so I think it's, the situation is less dire than the Grand Platner one, but in any case, it's not nearly as easily fixed. Okay, I know it's, I know it's, I know it's

fake headline Friday. I want to get to the last voicemail bag. Hey, Michael, Professor Jacob here. I have a question about GTA6, and when you answer it, I want you to put your personal bias aside about GTA6. Let's say, hypothetically, I knew a guy who wanted to play GTA 6. He's a Gen Zier. He's been waiting 10 years to play it because he grew up playing GTA 5. But his girlfriend tells him, no, you cannot play GTA 6. On principle, does the man listen to his girlfriend and not do this thing that he's really been wanting to do? Or does he say no and play it anyway? What should the man do in that scenario? His girlfriend will probably be very angry if he plays it anyway. Thanks.

Oh, it's a brutal problem that your friend finds himself in, that your Gen Z friend finds himself in. Because on the merits, your friend's girlfriend is right. GTA6 is probably immoral to play. You probably should, because it's not just for the violence, but apparently the new one is like pretty pornographic. So it's probably wrong to play it. And it's generally, as men get older, it's a less appropriate for them to speak. spend a lot of time playing video games. You know, it's just not, I'm not knocking it. I'm not yucking your yum.

I kind of want to play GTA 6. So I get it, but it's not, it's not the sort of thing. It's the sort of thing that a teenager does. It's not the sort of thing that a 45-year-old band does, for instance. And I don't know how old your friend is. So on the merits, your girlfriend is right. But this whole framing, you know, your girlfriend's not going to let you is totally ridiculous. And so there, I'm sympathetic to you, sorry to your friend, where you say, well, I have to do it just so that my wife doesn't lead me around by a dog collar. And I say, okay, yeah, I get that. But that's also your fault because you've established, sorry, your friend has established this situation

where you're even accepting that framing, where you're even accepting the idea that my girlfriend tells me what to do. I ask permission of my girlfriend, my girlfriend. You wouldn't ask permission of your wife, much less your girlfriend to do something. The problem here is on the merits, on the substance, your friend's girlfriend is right. So what would I do? I would try to find a prudential via media here where to establish a proper framing and relationship. I would have to play it to some degree. But I suggest that you play the Grand Theft Auto game for a very brief period of time in the most moral way you can.

You know, doing the missions, avoiding the worst of the pornographic or wrathful elements. and then putting the game away. So you've reset, you've established the proper framework of your real-world relationship, but you're not just becoming a wrathful, lusty, overgrown teenage boy who will repel your girlfriend, rightly so. It's fake headline Friday. The rest of the show continues, sorry, your friend's girlfriend. The rest of the show continues now. You do not want to miss it. Become a member use code, Noles Kenna W.LAS. Check it for two months free on all annual plans. Every significant movement in history has started with protesting. Uncle Tom? This is our generation civil rights.

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