The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 453 - The Deep State Must Be Defeated

Episode Date: November 20, 2019

An insufferable, power-hungry bureaucrat testifies before Congress, the ACLU celebrates menstruation on International Men’s Day, the UK’s first “gay dad” is dating his daughter’s boyfriend, ...and the Governor of South Dakota is on meth. Date: 11-20-2019 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 An insufferable power-hungry bureaucrat testifies before Congress. We examine the most nauseating highlights and get to the heart of this impeachment battle, which is not really about left versus right or Democrat versus Republican. It's about slavery versus freedom, technocratic tyranny versus constitutional self-government. If we want to keep our liberties, there's only one option. The deep state must be defeated. Then the ACLU celebrates International Men's Day, by tweeting about menstruation.
Starting point is 00:00:32 The daughter of Britain's first gay dads explains why she's happy that her boyfriend is now dating her father. And the governor of South Dakota tells the nation that she's on meth. All that and more. I'm Michael Knowles and this is the Michael Knowles show. What a day we have so much to get to. Let's get this out of the way first because I don't want to harp for too long on impeachment. I do want to get the highlights out here. though. So let's get this out of the way. If you haven't been paying attention, and I know you haven't
Starting point is 00:01:10 because nobody has been paying attention to this stupid impeachment battle, there were another two major witnesses yesterday, and there were another two witnesses that testified that Trump did not engage in a quid pro quo. So right now Democrats are batting what, 0 for five conservatives in the Trump administration batten 1,000. The two people who testified yesterday were Kurt Volker and Tim Morrison. Kurt Volker is a diplomat, U.S. Special Representative for Ukraine. Before that, he was ambassador to NATO for Barack Obama. So this is a guy who's had a career in diplomacy. That's Volker. And Tim Morrison is the senior official on the NSC who was testifying. He was the boss of Lieutenant Colonel Vindman, who's going to play a big role in this testimony. So you got Volker,
Starting point is 00:02:03 you got Morrison. Both of those guys admitted, clear as day on television for all the world to see if anybody were paying attention that Trump did not engage in any quid pro quo or any bribery or any treason. Here they are. Did Ukraine open investigation into the Bidens, Mr. Morrison? Not to my knowledge, ma'am. Ambassador Volker. Not to my knowledge either. Did either of you ever have any evidence of quid pro quo? Mr. Morrison? No, ma'am. Ambassador Volker. I did not. Any evidence of bribery? No, ma'am. No, ma'am.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Any evidence of treason? No, ma'am. No evidence of treason. With any yield back. There it is. Whatever headline you see today, and I know that you're going to see a lot of headlines in the New York Times and the Washington Post, the walls are closing in, Trump's days are numbered, wrongdoing, whistleblowers.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Just remember that testimony, okay? Another two key star witnesses, Volker and Morrison, did the president engage in any bribery? No. Did he engage in any quid pro quo? No. Did Ukraine even investigate the Bidens? No. Was there any treason? No. Nothing. Nara, Nula, throw it away. Got nothing. So they admit in their testimony that Trump didn't commit any impeachable offense. Also, by the way, same day, Lieutenant General Keith Kellogg, who is Vice President Pence's National Security Advisor. He released a statement yesterday saying that he was on President Trump's phone call with Ukraine on July 25th. That was the call with Ukraine President Zelensky and he said
Starting point is 00:03:43 he heard nothing wrong. He heard nothing improper there. But that doesn't matter to the Democrats favor witness yesterday. A gentleman by the name of Lieutenant Colonel Vindman. We will get to him, not even what he has to say about impeachment because he has nothing interesting to say about impeachment. What he has to say tells us everything about the deep state, which is really the heart of this impeachment battle. Before we get to that, I've got to thank our friends over it, Honey. You know how much I love Honey. What is Honey? Honey is a free browser extension that automatically applies the best promo codes whenever you shop online. This means that you are always getting the best deals without even trying on over 20,000 sites.
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Starting point is 00:05:54 We've already heard the testimony. We've heard it yesterday. We heard it the day before that. We've got that. Okay, no quid pro quo, no wrongdoing. But let's look at the impeachment itself. Lieutenant Colonel Vindman, who has been talking to the lawyers and he's been talking to the whistleblower and he's been one of these operatives who's been trying to stir up impeachment the
Starting point is 00:06:16 whole time. He's testifying before Congress and Representative Nunes begins to grill him, but Vindman won't have any of it. Vindman cuts him off and says, excuse me. Mr. Representative, you better use my proper military rank. Mr. Vindman, you testified in your deposition that you did not know the whistleblower. Rank member, it's Lieutenant Colonel Vindman, please. Lieutenant Colonel Vindman, you testified in the deposition that you did not know
Starting point is 00:06:49 who the whistleblower was. I do not know who the whistleblower is. Give me a break. first of all, I don't believe him for a second that he doesn't know who the whistleblower is. I think we all know who the whistleblower is. I think it's Eric Charimella, as was reported by real clear investigations. And I especially think that guy knows who he is because that guy talked to him. Allegedly, reportedly, I have to catch all of my, all of my assertions here.
Starting point is 00:07:15 It certainly would appear to be the case. But let's get to this military rank. Lieutenant, it's Lieutenant Colonel Vindman. By the way, in Congress, all of the congressmen are referred to as representative. that's their official title. And yet, when you hear them speak to one another, it's always Mr. and Ms. and Mrs. This military rank thing, it's pathetic.
Starting point is 00:07:36 I mean, no disrespect to the military when I say that. Actually, a number of very high profile soldiers and sailors and seals and special operators called out Lieutenant Colonel Vindman on this and said it was ridiculous what he did. Tim Kennedy, active Green Beret Special Forces sniper, tweeted out, quote, Correcting a civilian about how to be addressed, is a for-sure way to make everyone in the military think you are a, and then he uses a little profanity, which I'll refrain from here, but it's a hygiene product is what he's referring to.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Mark Geist, who fought the Battle of Benghazi, said that Vindman is a disgrace. Robert O'Neill, who's a Navy SEAL credited with firing the shot that killed Osama bin Laden, said, quote, I wish the left wouldn't use his uniform to make him a saint. He's an operative with an agenda. Jim Hansen, former U.S. Army Special Forces. said, quote, Vindman is the Frank Burns of the NSC. He corrects Devin Nunes, who called him Mr. With the Prissy reply, it's Lieutenant Colonel Vindman. He's right, but only a fat-faced loser hated by everyone in his unit acts like that. That's Jim Hanson. It is true. I mean, he is a
Starting point is 00:08:45 lieutenant colonel, so, you know, thank you for your service, Lieutenant Colonel, and you deserve to be referred to by your military title. But you got a lot of friends and family in the military. They would never do anything like that. I mean, I just, I think of my grandfather. You know, Lieutenant Colonel Vindman is an 05. That's his rank, right? My grandfather is a captain in the Navy, 06, outranks Colonel Vindman. I've never heard him correct anybody who would refer to him as Mr. or anything else. It's just so, so unseemly. It's so unbecoming, especially of an officer in the military. So anyway, that kind of sets you up with who this guy is. And even before he testified, We know that he's one of the people at the heart of stirring up this whole impeachment controversy.
Starting point is 00:09:31 We know he's a jerk. Turns out he's also a slime ball. What happened here? Lieutenant Colonel Vindman disagreed with the president's policy on Ukraine. So, instead of bringing up his concerns to his immediate superior, his boss on the NSC, instead of bringing his concerns up to the president, what Lieutenant Colonel Vindman decided to do is go around the constitutional order,
Starting point is 00:10:00 go around the President of the United States, go around his own boss, go straight to a lawyer, and tee up this whole impeachment charade. Don't take my word for it. Here is Tim Morrison. This is Vindman's boss on the NSC. And by the way, Morrison has made it clear.
Starting point is 00:10:19 He doesn't want to run down Vindman. He's been very reticent in his testimony, But here is Morrison admitting while he's being grilled that Vindman went around him and stirred up this whole thing. Here's Tim Morrison. You indicated in your deposition that when you took over the portfolio for Dr. Hill, July 15th, you were alerted to potential issues in Colonel Vindman's judgment? Yes. Did she relay anything specifically to you?
Starting point is 00:10:52 why she thought that? Not as such. It was more of an overarching statement from her and her deputy, who became my deputy, that they had concerns about judgment. During the deposition, I asked you, Mr. Morrison, whether others raised a concern that Colonel Vindman may have leaked information?
Starting point is 00:11:17 You did ask that, yes. Yeah, and your answer was? Others had represented that, yes. Okay. And I asked you whether you were concerned Colonel Vindman did not keep you in the loop at all times with his official duties? Yes. And in fact, when he went to the National Security Council lawyers following the July 25th call,
Starting point is 00:11:39 he did not first come to you. Is that correct? Correct. There you have it. So we know that Vindman, he had some problems with this policy and he went around everybody, went to a lawyer, there were concerns that were represented to Morrison, that this guy had bad judgment, that this guy was a leaker, that this guy was really abusing his office on the NSC. And what I actually love about this exchange is you can tell Morrison doesn't want to run the guy down because he's asked, were there, he actually is asked, did I ask you when you were, when you were testifying previously, if there were concerns that he was a leaker?
Starting point is 00:12:17 And Morrison leans, and he says, yes, you did ask me that. It's like, well, okay, were there concerns that he was a leaker? Yes, that was represented to me. He's being very cautious in his testimony, but the message is clear. This guy, Vindman, was rogue. He was a political operator. He was undermining the policy of the president. Because as we're about to find out, Lieutenant Colonel Vindman didn't care about the policy of the president.
Starting point is 00:12:42 He doesn't think it's the president who makes policy. He thinks it's him. We'll get to that in a second. First, I got to thank our friends over First Leaf. I love First Leave. leaf. You know that I love drinking high quality wine. I'm a man of simple tastes. I'm easily satisfied by the very best and I'm Italian, so I've been drinking wine since I was six years old. I have been a member of other wine clubs before. Some of them have been a little disappointing
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Starting point is 00:15:35 Jim Jordan, Republican congressman, as usual, nails him. Why didn't you go after the call? Why didn't you go to Mr. Morrison? I went immediately per the instructions from the July 10th incident. I went immediately to Mr. Eisenberg. After that, once I made that, expressed my concerns, it was an extremely busy week. We had a PCC just finish.
Starting point is 00:16:05 We had the call, and then we had a deputies meeting, which consumed all of my time. I was working extremely long days. Oh, yeah, is that right, Lieutenant Colonel Vindman? So the reason that you didn't go to your superiors and follow the chain of command here when you wanted to change U.S. policy single-handedly. The reason that you went to a lawyer instead, but you didn't have time to go to your boss, is because you were really busy that week? Are you joking? This is like a freshman in college who didn't finish his term paper on time, making an excuse to his professor.
Starting point is 00:16:36 You had time to go to the lawyer. You had time to gin up this whole conspiracy, this whole impeachment hoax, which we've heard as a hoax. based on now what five major witnesses called forth by Adam Schiff to testify so you you had time to do that but you didn't have time to go to your boss give me a break you you had you had time to talk to somebody it wasn't even just the lawyer he also had he had time to talk to his boss they had time to talk to the lawyer and he had time to talk to somebody else in the murky deep state intelligence community Jim Jordan pulls that out of him so the lawyer you not only didn't go to your boss
Starting point is 00:17:13 You said you tried, but you didn't go to your boss. You went straight to the lawyer, and the lawyer told you not to go to your boss? No, he didn't tell me until... Why didn't you go to your direct report, Mr. Morrison? Your response was, this page 102, because Mr. Eisenberg had told me to take my concerns to him. Then I ask you, did Mr. Eisenberg tell you not to report, to go around Mr. Morrison? And you said, actually, he did. Say that.
Starting point is 00:17:36 I shouldn't talk to any other people. Is that right? Yes, but there's a whole... there's a period of time in there between when I spoke to him and when he circled back around. It wasn't that long a period of time, but it was enough time for me to... Enough time, do you go to talk to someone that you won't tell us who it is, right? I've been instructed not to, Representative Jordan... Well, here's what I'm getting. The lawyer told you don't talk to any other people,
Starting point is 00:18:00 and you interpret that as not talking to your boss, but you talk to your brother, you talk to the lawyers, you talk to Secretary Kent, and you talk to the one guy, Adam Schiff, won't tell you, won't let us, won't let you tell us who he is. Is that right? Representative Jordan, I did my job. Oh, what a little weasel this guy is. I love to say, so Jim Jordan says, Lieutenant Colonel Vindman, the lawyer told you not to talk to your boss? Well, no, no, no, he didn't tell me not to talk to my boss until he told me not to talk to my boss. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:18:32 And you didn't have time to talk to anybody, right? Yeah, that's right. I didn't have time to talk to anybody, other than your brother and other than the secretary and other than the whistleblower and other than all the... You had time to talk to them, right? And obviously at this point, Vindman has nothing to say. So he just comes out and says, Mr. Jordan, I did my job. No, you didn't do your job.
Starting point is 00:18:50 You did the opposite of your job. You know, what Vindman refers to so much throughout this mindless testimony, is how he did go to the bureaucrats. He did go to the interagency. The interagency, that's the term that keeps coming up. He did go to the federal bureaucracy. But he didn't go to his boss. He didn't follow the chain of command.
Starting point is 00:19:11 He didn't follow the president's policy. The interagency. That's the battle here. The president, the elected guys, the American people, versus the decisions of the interagency, the federal bureaucracy, the deep state. This guy, binman, is an operative with an agenda. He's just admitted it himself. How do we, let's put, not to put too fine a point on it, but let's let's, let's put. Let's see if this weasel can just finally come right out and say what he really wants to,
Starting point is 00:19:44 which is that he believes it is the job of himself, the job of the interagency, the job of the entrenched bureaucracy to make policy, and it's not the job of the elected president of the United States. Is there a process to determine official U.S. policy? Yes, my job is to coordinate U.S. policy. So throughout the preceding year that I had been on staff, I had undertaken an effort to make sure we had a cohesive, coherent U.S. policy. And as you listened to the call, did you observe whether President Trump was following the talking points based on the official U.S. policy? Counsel, the president could choose to use the talking points or not use the president, but they were not consistent with what I provided, yes.
Starting point is 00:20:37 The temerity of that response, that response, by the way, is to the Democratic Council. The temerity of the Democratic Council asking if Lieutenant Colonel Vindman made sure that the president of the United States was following his talking points on official U.S. policy. Just the question itself. The question itself basically boils down to who makes U.S. policy. and Vindman doesn't wait one little second. He says, I make U.S. policy. No, you don't, dude. You know who makes U.S. foreign policy?
Starting point is 00:21:12 The president of the United States. You don't get to dictate to the president of the United States what the policy is, and you don't get to dictate to the president of the United States what he should say about what the policy is. You are a functionary. You work for him. You should keep your mouth shut and do what the president of the United States. States tells you to do because guess what? None of us elected Lieutenant Colonel Vindman.
Starting point is 00:21:38 And after that testimony, none of us really seem to like Lieutenant Colonel Vindman. Not a very likable guy. He's a power hungry bureaucrat and a priss about it too. We elected Trump. Maybe you don't like Trump. Too bad. That's your job. Do your job. Vindman thinks that he makes policy. Him and the interagency. Here's what he said. The interagency policy was to support security, was to support security assistance for the Ukraine. Hey, you know what I think of the interagency policy when it comes into conflict with the policy of our duly elected representatives? This, I think I flick off underneath my chin. That's what I think. He says, in my position, I coordinate with a superb cohort of interagency partners. I bet you coordinate
Starting point is 00:22:20 with the president of the United States and shut your mouth and do your job. He says, quote, I'm the point man for coordinating the interagency. I don't care who you are and I don't care what your title is. I don't care about you, Lieutenant Colonel Vindman. I care about the American people having control over their own government and you following the orders of the elected representatives. Nobody elected this guy. He wants Representative Nunes to have more respect for his military title. How about Lieutenant Colonel Vindman show some respect to his civilian superiors, namely Devin Nunes, namely his boss on the National Security Council, namely the president of the United States. In this country, the civilians run the show. Not the military,
Starting point is 00:23:04 I have great respect for the military. I don't have a ton of respect for Vindman, but I have a lot of respect for the military. And by the way, most of my pals in the military know that in this country, the civilians run the show. How about the interagency? I got friends who've worked at the interagency. The good ones are the ones who know
Starting point is 00:23:22 that the civilians run the show. In particular, the elected representatives, not some technocrat tyrants in the deep state. Okay, do you know who runs this? show in this country, not any of the punks like Eric Charimella, allegedly, who are shredding our constitution because they don't like that the American people elected the wrong candidate in 2016. This is not even about the left versus the right. This is not even about Democrat versus Republican. I mean, it is in so much as the left likes the entrenched bureaucracy a lot more
Starting point is 00:23:57 than the right tends to. But, you know, Republicans like the bureaucracy sometimes too. If a Democratic president right now we're threatening the technocratic status quo, you can bet that the deep state would be going after them too. This is a major threat to the country. This is a major threat because it actually transcends partisan differences in the partisan divide
Starting point is 00:24:17 and it gets right down to the heart of who we are. Are we going to be a country that's run by good experts with nice ties all well tied up and good-looking jackets on. Nobody elected them, and they don't have any real powers designated in the Constitution. But, hey, they know better for us. So they're going to make U.S. policy. And the president, he just better go along with it.
Starting point is 00:24:41 And by the way, if he doesn't go along with it, we're going to throw them out of office. And who cares what the American people say? There's that possibility or there's self-government in our constitutional order. We get to decide. Obviously, people like Lieutenant Colonel Vindman have made their decision. I think we should probably make another decision. The only way that this is going to resolve itself is if the deep state is defeated.
Starting point is 00:25:04 The deep state, the deep state, it's a real thing. It's called the bureaucracy. You just saw a major representative of it right now. The deep state does not want to voluntarily give up power because what the deep state thinks is that the electeds come and go, political wins change, but they are always going to be there. We need to seriously deplete their power.
Starting point is 00:25:26 I actually like a lot of the eight. agencies in the bureaucracy, I think they do some good work, but they have become far, far too powerful. And if they are going to try to take sovereignty, if they're going to try to take the control of making policy in the United States away from the American people, they must be defeated, you know, there was the line in ancient Rome, Carthago Delenda Est, Carthage must be destroyed, the deep state Delenda asked, it must be defeated if we are to preserve our self-government. All right, we've got to think about Facebook and YouTube. Head on over to dailywire.com. 10 bucks a month, $100 for an annual membership.
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Starting point is 00:27:13 Much more important than a corrupt bureaucracy trying to steal the government of the United States is a story that came out of Great Britain. See if you can wrap your head around this. The daughter of Britain's first gay dads says that she's now happy that her ex-boyfriend is dating her dad. There are a lot of parts of this that you're going to have to try to work out in your head. First of all, what it means to have
Starting point is 00:27:47 Britain's first gay dads. These are two dads on the birth certificate of a daughter. Now, look, I'm no expert on biology or something. I know these things change every day now, but something would suggest to me that these two men cannot come together
Starting point is 00:28:02 and produce a daughter. It seems like some strange. gender ideology has entered here. But then, then let's even just say you could do that. So this daughter somehow has two dads. That the daughter had a boyfriend and then she broke up with the boyfriend and the dads broke up with each other so much for the happy ending to Britain's first gay dads. And then one of the dads starts dating the boyfriend. Couldn't be a very awkward Thanksgiving this year. I guess they don't have Thanksgiving in Britain, so they'll probably be okay. Saffron Drewitt Barlow.
Starting point is 00:28:37 That is the 19-year-old daughter. She is openly bisexual. And she dated Scott Hutchinson, 25-year-old. And she says it was just a big ploy to keep his sexuality secret. And she wrote on Instagram that her boyfriend is now dating her father, Barry Drew Barlow. But Barry Drew Barlow is only one of her fathers, according to her birth certificate. Her other father is Tony Druit Barlow. So Barry drew at Barlow is 50 years old.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Tony Drewitt Barlow is 55 years old. They were the first couple in England, same-sex couple, to be named on a birth certificate as parents, even though that's obviously impossible. That was 20 years ago. The men, Tony and Barry, they were the first same-sex dads, still live happily under one rule. roof with Scott, the 25-year-old ex-boyfriend of the daughter and the daughter, and actually all of their four other children in the family's Florida mansion. Okay. Tony, one of the first gay dads, has had some deteriorating health since a cancer diagnosis in 2006, and this apparently led the two gay dads to drift apart into a platonic relationship. And then for this other guy, Barry,
Starting point is 00:30:05 to bring Scott, the 25-year-old ex-boyfriend, into the relationship, and they're all somehow living together. We are seeing two narratives collide here on the left. Two distinct narratives. The first narrative, which is the one we've heard for a long time, is that we must redefine marriage. Marriage for all of human history, everywhere in the world, has had a meaning, which includes sexual difference. We're now told that we have to redefine marriage, to include monogamous same-sex unions because marriage is the best and marriage as we understand is so wonderful and so to be desired that we actually in the name of inclusion must construct or rather reconstruct marriage to accommodate same-sex couples.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Marriage is so good so exclusively to be desired that we actually have to kind of tweak marriage which has always included sexual difference to not include sex. difference, but to still sort of look like marriage, to accommodate people with same-sex attractions because that's the only way that they can really prosper and thrive in society. That's the one narrative, the left oldest, that's how they redefine marriage. The second narrative, which is what we're starting to hear now, is that there is nothing better about traditional marriage. And a daddy can boink his daughter's very young boyfriend, and that's a beautiful, wonderful
Starting point is 00:31:30 thing, and it's brave and special, and how dare you judge another man's family? Yeah, hold on. You're telling me you think it's weird that two guys who presented themselves as America's first gay dads live under the same roof with the daughter's ex-boyfriend who's now dating one of the dads and their other four kids. Is that what you're saying? You can't have both of those narratives. You can't have both. What this shows. I really want to point this out. You know how much I hate saying that we told you so. We told you so. Conservatives were right the whole time. What was the conservative? argument against redefining marriage. According to the left, the conservative argument is, we hate people, we hate people with different sexual preferences, we're mean old conservatives, that's what the left thought. But of course, that wasn't the argument. Here was the conservative argument against redefining marriage. It was not in any way disdainful of homosexuals or people with any sort of odd sexual
Starting point is 00:32:25 preferences. It just said that marriage has a meaning, that sexual difference is essential to marriage. has been, always will be everywhere in the world. If you radically redefine marriage, this was the conservative argument, if you radically redefine marriage, you're not actually improving marriage and you're not actually making marriage more inclusive. What you're doing is destroying marriage because you're cracking the essential definition of it and then you're watering it down so much that it doesn't mean anything anymore. The conservative argument is that the re-definition of marriage would not make society more orderly, would not bring people into the
Starting point is 00:33:09 institution of marriage, but it would actually just weaken what is the fundamental basis of social order, which is marriage. And we were right. We were right. Told you so. But the left doesn't care about the consistency here. What the left does is they just move right down along that slippery slope, and then they pretend that it's crazy to think there'd be a slippery slope in the first place. Okay, the first gay dads, as they're known in England, just split up in a profoundly troubling way. This is not an indictment of all homosexual relationships or couples, not by a long shot, but it does raise questions about the redefinition of marriage. When these two gentlemen decided to shack up and redefine marriage and childhood and all these things,
Starting point is 00:33:59 we were told that we had to think this was a fairy tale ending happily ever after. These two men just want to be together and brought into the institution of marriage and have a family together, just like you and me. Isn't that so beautiful? It brings a tear to my eye. Didn't happen though, did it? That's not what happened at all. And they didn't even just divorce like normal people in modernity, which I think divorce
Starting point is 00:34:21 is terrible too. But it's not even like they just kind of split up and went their own way. They're like living together in this bizarre arrangement. that is profoundly disorderly and the left doesn't care. The left doesn't care. Okay, so the left has pretty much wrecked marriage successfully at this point. I'm not, I'm not blaming homosexuals for this. I'm only blaming the left because it didn't begin with redefining marriage to include same-sex couples. It began with free love, and it began in particular with no-fault divorce. That was a pretty serious blow against marriage. Then you got the redefinition of marriage. That, that
Starting point is 00:34:59 finished it off. Now the left is on to destroying sex itself, not the even the act of sex, but the meaning of sex, biological sex, which brings us to international men's day. How do you think the ACLU, the American Civil Liberties Union, ironically named, how do you think they celebrated international men's day? The one day to celebrate men, or at least international men, I don't know if that means, you know, we're talking about sort of exotic types of men. This is what the ACLU tweeted, quote, there's no one way to be a man. Men who get their periods are men. Men who get pregnant and give birth are men. Trans and non-binary men belong. International men's Day. They celebrate International Men's Day by talking about menstruation. And I, you know, I've actually,
Starting point is 00:35:58 They inspired me, so I'd like to just point out right now once and for all, standing up for civil rights, standing up for inclusion and tolerance. There's no one way to be a human. Okay. Humans with eight arms and three hearts are human. Humans who choose to scurry along the seafloor so that they don't swim and stop one of their hearts from beating are human. humans who are octopuses belong. Happy international human day.
Starting point is 00:36:31 And how dare you? How dare you suggest that octopuses aren't real humans? Because they are. That's what this is about. This is why I point out that so much of the left's plans are not about redefining or not about improving or not about making more inclusive the institutions that they go into. the left
Starting point is 00:36:54 destroys the institutions it goes into. When it comes to destroying men, I'm not blaming people with gender dysphoria and I'm not blaming women. When it comes to
Starting point is 00:37:06 destroying marriage, I'm not blaming homosexuals. I'm not blaming anybody else. When it comes to destroying other institutions like the university, for instance, I'm not blaming liberal education. I'm not blaming the university itself.
Starting point is 00:37:20 I am blaming the left. because that's what the left does. The left crawls into institutions like little octopuses without any vertebrate. You know, it just kind of, no bones. It just sneaks into these institutions and all of its little tentacles go out and it hollows them out from within
Starting point is 00:37:35 so that what you have is a facade and you can kind of tell it's a cracked and broken facade of the institution, but within it's totally rotted like the universities. When we look now to the elite universities in this country, they might look sort of like what the universities were. They are no longer the universities. When we look at the institution of marriage,
Starting point is 00:37:58 sort of looks like marriage, but it's not really. We look at men. Look, if you celebrate international men's race by celebrating periods, you've lost the narrative. We are not talking about men anymore. It is so destructive. And what we need to do as conservatives
Starting point is 00:38:15 is get rid of this absurd lie that the left pushes forward, that they're trying to improve and make more inclusive these institutions. They don't give a damn about that. They don't give a damn about homosexuals. They don't give a damn about transsexuals. They don't give a damn about education.
Starting point is 00:38:31 What they want is power. And something that stops them from taking power are these institutions that keep us away from being just atomized individuals totally helpless before an overly powerful government, tyrannical government, you might say. institutions like marriage, institutions like biology, frankly, that are parts of our nature, human nature.
Starting point is 00:38:58 They want to break human nature itself. That's been the goal of the left since Karl Marx. It's all just about power, and we have to resist that. I mean, look, you can see it politically. You can see it in the name of impeachment. They're saying we need to overrun all of our norms of government, our constitutional order, we need to run roughshod over. centuries of American history to unprecedented actions, such as the removal of this president
Starting point is 00:39:27 for anything, first of all, much less a phone call with Ukraine, where he said nothing wrong according to the key witnesses. The left tells you we have to do that in the name of inclusivity, in the name of righteousness, in the name of virtue. They don't care about any of that. They're willing to wreck the foundational pillars of the country if it'll just give them a little bit more power and we've got to stop them. They must be defeated. Before we go, I have to mention the South Dakota governor. South Dakota governor, Christy Noam has identified a key problem in this country. Actually, a key problem that has taken away a lot of our liberty and making us more vulnerable. I'm not talking about political activities. I'm talking about drugs. I'm talking specifically
Starting point is 00:40:15 about meth. There is a meth epidemic in the country. And Christy, Noam, Republican Governor of South Dakota, wants to do something about it. So she's launching a public awareness campaign. The public awareness campaign is called I'm on meth. Here she is. RBC Training Ground has discovered potential in over 20,000 Canadian athletes and counting. Your story could be next. If you've got the drive, they'll help you find your path to the Olympics. Let's see what you've got. Sign up for free at rbc training ground.com. This campaign is going to be about solutions and hope and how every single one of us in South Dakota can partner to be on meth. Really, the tagline is, I'm on meth.
Starting point is 00:41:03 And what it's talking about is that each one of us, no matter who we are, that we're on the case of meth, that we're protecting our family, we're protecting our friends, we're protecting our communities from this epidemic that we see, and that we're all going to be taking some responsibility and battling it and making sure that it's not going to have a place here in our state. The campaign is called I'm on meth. This is something so hilarious. It's out of a parks and wreck episode. It's like you couldn't, if you scripted that in a parks and wreck episode, they'd say, that's too on the nose.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Come on, you've got to back off a little bit here. On the one hand, this is a hilariously outrageous tagline. It is I'm on meth. You have the governor of South Dakota saying, hey, guys, I'm on meth. And you know what? We're all on meth. And that's a good thing. So it's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:41:50 and hilarious. On the other hand, it worked. I actually think it's a pretty great tagline. It worked because we are talking now about meth because the governor of South Dakota did something outrageous and hilarious and now we're talking about it. We should be talking about it. You know, all of the focus in this drug epidemic in the country has been on opioids, which are a major problem. They are a huge problem in the country. But most law enforcement agents actually think that meth is the bigger threat. Across the country, overdose deaths involving meth have more than quadrupled since 2011. Actually, just between 2011 and 2017, it's probably up even more now. Admission to treatment facilities for meth
Starting point is 00:42:33 are up 17% in that time. Hospitalizations related to meth jumped by about 245% from 2008 to 2015. 245%. Throughout the West, throughout the Midwest, there was a survey of law. enforcement officials, 70% of law enforcement agencies say that meth is their biggest drug threat, a bigger problem than opioid. So we should pay attention to that. I actually give this governor a lot of credit for an inventive way to do it, especially in South Dakota, which I've visited South Dakota before. It doesn't get the most attention of all U.S. states, small population kind of tucked away up there in the north. And so I think she did a great job. I tip my hat to her. I'm glad that she's on meth. I'm glad that we're all on meth and hopefully we can fix the meth problem. Before we go
Starting point is 00:43:23 also, good news for Pete Buttigieg. Big news for Pete Buttigieg. So we talked yesterday about how in Iowa, first in the nation, first caucus state, Pete Buttigieg is now leading by nine somehow. Not only is it not Biden anymore, not only is it not Warren. But it's Pete, Mayor Pete, Pastor, Pastor, Peter Pete Buttigieg, the fake pastor who tells all Christians that they're not Christian if they believe in Christianity. Pete Buttigieg is up according to one poll, which by the way is an outlier poll in another very important early primary state. That is the state of New Hampshire. So again, take this with a little bit of a grain of salt. This is the St. Anselm College Survey Center poll of only 255 likely Democratic primary voters in New Hampshire.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Only 255, but you got to remember it's New Hampshire. and I think there are only about 256 people in New Hampshire, so it's probably like almost the whole state, showed that Pete Buttigieg is supported by 25% of the Democratic primary electorate there, now holds a 10-point lead in New Hampshire over Joe Biden and Liz Warren, who were tied for second at 15%.
Starting point is 00:44:29 The sample size is too small to draw serious conclusions here, but it does show that all of the momentum is with Pete Buttigieg. That's where all of the momentum is with Pete Buttigieg. momentum is going in even the Democratic primary field. Why is that? It comes back to what we've been talking about all day. It comes back to this power grab. It comes back to the radicalization of the left. It comes back to impeachment because there are people, even on the left, even among Democrats, who say that the left has gone too far, that they don't want their institutions to be completely destroyed. Pete Buttigieg is gay married. But people,
Starting point is 00:45:10 Buddha judge is portraying himself now at least as the traditionalist candidate, as the more moderate candidate. He's going for that Joe Biden lane. And the left is saying, okay, all right, we need to slow this down a little bit. We don't want to completely run roughshod over our institutions, including our federal government, including the presidency. We don't want to just have these coup d'etat, these coups in all of our fundamental institutions in America. We, We want to slow down a little bit. This is why very few Americans are watching the impeachment proceedings. This is why very few people are tuning into that at all because it's just gone too far.
Starting point is 00:45:54 The narrative is so divorced from reality at this point that even among the left, you're seeing the more moderate candidates come out. Now, can we survive this? Can we survive the attempt to destroy the building blocks of our society? we're seeing that play out right now 24 hours a day on cable news during this impeachment hearings if we want to preserve anything like our constitutional order anything like our self-government anything like our constitutional liberties these technocratic tyrants must be defeated this destructive left this this destructive bureaucracy must be taken down hope we can do it that's our show i'm michael knolls this is the michael knolls
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