The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 474 - Don’t You Know There’s A War On?

Episode Date: January 8, 2020

Iran launches an attack on an US airbase in Iraq. The missiles flopped, and no Americans were killed, but the question remains: are we at war with Iran? We will examine what the strike means as well a...s the broader Trump doctrine. Then, Covington kid Nicholas Sandmann wins a big payout from CNN, as the fake news company settles a $250 million defamation lawsuit. Speaking of fake news, the media are spreading lots of it when it comes to the Australian wildfires, and finally the New York Times asks the right question and gives a dumb answer in the dumbest article on the Internet today. Can't get enough of The Michael Knowles Show? Enjoy ad-free shows, live discussions, and more by becoming an ALL ACCESS member TODAY at: https://dailywire.com/Knowles Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Iran launches an attack on a U.S. air base in Iraq. The missiles flopped and no Americans were killed, at least as of this airing. But the question remains, are we at war with Iran? We will examine what the strike means as well as the broader Trump doctrine. Then Covington Kid, Nicholas Sandman, wins a big payout from CNN as the fake news company settles a $250 million defamation lawsuit. Speaking of fake news, the media are spreading lots of it when it comes to the Australian wildfires. And finally, the New York Times asks the right question and gives a dumb answer in the dumbest article on the internet today. All that and more. I'm Michael Knowles and this is the Michael Knowles show. Are we at war? Are we going to war? Should we go to war? Is war ever justified? We will answer all of those questions today. First, the facts, because from the moment that this attack was launched last night from Iran onto these U.S. air bases in Iraq, there was a ton of opinion, a ton of fake news, very little in the way of facts. What do we know? We know that Iran lobbed more than a dozen ballistic missiles
Starting point is 00:01:21 at Al-Assad Air Base in Iraq last night. That's the bad news. The good news is, as of right now, Wednesday morning, there are no reported casualties at all. No American. casualties, no Iraqi casualties, no casualties, period. Obviously, information is coming in in drips and drabs, but that's the latest that we have. You might be confused to hear that because last night, left-wing media outlets, including MSNBC, Washington Post, raw story, a ton of them were reporting without any evidence, just baselessly promoting on television and in the newspaper, Iranian propaganda that they had killed or injured, 30 Americans, 80 Americans.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Complete fake news, propaganda coming out of Iran, and MSNBC takes that propaganda and airs it without even trying to vet it. Same thing with The Washington Post, same thing with raw story. They said, and they would at least attribute the information to Iranian state media. But that raises the question, why is the Washington Post just senselessly regurgitating Iranian state media while Iran is attacking the United States? States. Why is MSNBC pushing Iranian state media on their television network? I mean, the good thing is nobody's watching, but the good thing with the Washington Post is nobody's reading.
Starting point is 00:02:47 But how reckless, how irresponsible, what total fake news, what obvious, clear evidence that the mainstream media would rather take the side of Iran than take the side of the duly elected U.S. president, because they don't like him, because orange man bad. We'll see. even before the attack, how clear this was in the New York Times. But those are the facts right now. There was a major, lots of smoke, lots of fire, missile attack on a U.S. base, and yet nobody has been killed. So what does that mean? Are we at war?
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Starting point is 00:04:49 that they've attacked this U.S. base, multiple bases? It doesn't mean anything new in particular. Actually, fewer people were killed in this attack last night than have been killed in just the past. few weeks by Iran. Fewer Americans have been killed. As of late December, there had been 11 Iran-linked rocket attacks on U.S. positions in Iraq, including in the Green Zone, over just the past two months.
Starting point is 00:05:19 And they produced American casualties. Last night was less bloody for Americans in our conflict with Iran than the previous two months. You might not know that from watching the mainstream media or from watching the big fire and fury that was going on on videotape. But actually, it was less bloody for Americans than the previous two months. What does that mean? It means that the White House strategy on Iran is working. It means that killing Kasem Soleimani, who is probably looking up on us from the afterlife right now,
Starting point is 00:05:54 was a good strategy. despite all the missiles and the fizzles and the fire and the fury, it actually appears to have de-escalated the conflict with Iran, which had been increasing for the past several months and really for the past several years. There was a moment where the United States and Iran cooled their tensions. They were not openly hostile to one another. This is in particular after we returned to Iraq in 2014. But the only reason for that was that we had a common enemy,
Starting point is 00:06:25 the common enemy was ISIS. And so we both fight ISIS. We stop the hostilities with one another for that period of time. ISIS is dead. Trump came in. He said, we're going to kill ISIS. We're going to beat the crap out of ISIS. And we did. We killed the leader of ISIS, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. Then Iran starts the shenanigans again. They kill an American contractor in Iraq. They attack our embassy. Kassam Soleimani himself is responsible for the deaths of over 600 American servicemen. So what do we do? We have the opportunity. We have the opportunity. opportunity to get him. President Trump makes the correct decision to take out Soleimani. This was greatly feared by the mainstream media. They lost their minds over this. They said, this is terrible. This is putting American soldiers in danger. This couldn't possibly be worse. What a terrible escalation. What a provocation. First of all, it was neither an escalation nor a provocation because we'd been dealing with Iranian attacks on us for years. But then look at the
Starting point is 00:07:22 effect of it. Look at the actual effect. Iran lobbed some rockets into the dirt, and they give Iraq heads up, according to recent reports. They apparently told Iraq that they were going to launch this attack, and yet there were no Americans that were killed as well. So how will Trump respond? Previously, before this attack last night, Trump said, you're not going to be able to predict our response. We have the credible threat of force. You thought we were just bluffing. Then we took out your top military general.
Starting point is 00:07:58 He said that if you strike us, if you go and try to kill some Americans, that we will hit not just military targets, not just oil fields, but cultural sites as well. Everybody freaked out. They said, this is a war crime. You're not allowed to target cultural sites. I did not freak out because I speak Trump. I can interpret Trump for you. Maybe it's because I'm from New York. Maybe it's because I've been paying attention in the last three years.
Starting point is 00:08:27 But when Trump says something, you've got to read it through the mind of a guy who at least had the art of the deal ghost written for him. You've got to read it through the lens of a guy who speaks in hyperbole, who exaggerates, who understands that in order for threats to work, you need to have the credible threat of violence, but you also need to know when to bluff. You need to know when to hold them. You need to know when to fold them. you need to know when to walk away and when to run.
Starting point is 00:08:53 And the way that Trump talks is you just never quite know what he's being serious about, what he's joking about, what is hyperbole. And so did I fear that Trump was going to attack some 3,000-year-old site in Iran? No, I don't think he would do that. But maybe he would. I mean, that's the message he's sending to Iran, which is an important message. That is how Trump talks. That is how Trump should talk.
Starting point is 00:09:15 I think it's an effective strategy. He has since walked it back when they said, Are you going to commit a war crime? He was sitting in the White House and he said, no, no, I probably won't commit a war crime. You must clear up, Mr. President, whether Iranian cultural sites would be on any future target. Well, as I said yesterday, it was very interesting. They're allowed to kill our people. They're allowed to maim our people.
Starting point is 00:09:40 They're allowed to blow up everything that we have and there's nothing that stops them. And we are, according to various laws, supposed to... be very careful with their cultural heritage. And you know what? If that's what the law is, I like to obey the law. But think of it. They kill our people. They blow up our people.
Starting point is 00:10:01 And then we have to be very gentle with their cultural institutions. But I'm okay with it. It's okay with me. I will say this. If Iran does anything that they shouldn't be doing, they're going to be suffering the consequences and very strongly.
Starting point is 00:10:16 I love this. I love to obey the law. Yeah, okay, that's fine. by me. It's ridiculous because we should be able to just absolutely glass the country and kill all the mullahs, but that's okay. I'll, I will follow the law. This is the way that you should speak if you are trying to get the mullahs to pull back their attacks on U.S. troops. You need to keep them on their toes. You need to remain unpredictable. I mean, what is on Trump's mind when he's making these comments. He's saying, we just took out their top general. Hostilities have been
Starting point is 00:10:50 building for years. I want these guys to know that I will rain down fire and brimstone and hellfire and fury if they kill American servicemen. I want them to know that. And so he is conveying that. And apparently it worked because as of right now, all those missiles landed in the dirt. Nobody got killed. Let's hope that that's true. I mean, this is based on initial reports. Let's hope that that continues to hold. Regardless, until five minutes ago, until President Trump, the opinion that we should take a hard line on the mullahs in Iran, the opinion that these guys are some of the worst people on earth, the opinion that we should hit them so hard, they've never been hit harder in the entire history of Iran was not a controversial opinion until the
Starting point is 00:11:49 left decided that anything Trump did was terrible. Hillary Clinton, the guy that Trump, that's a Freudian slip, the lady that President Trump beat in 2016, years ago in the recent past expressed the exact same opinion on Iran that President Trump expressed. Here is the former future president, Hillary Clinton. Whatever stage of development they might be in their nuclear weapons program in the next 10 years during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them. That's a terrible thing to say, but those people who run Iran need to understand that
Starting point is 00:12:31 because that perhaps will deter them from doing something that would be reckless, foolish, and tragic. Of course, this is common. sense. This shouldn't be a partisan opinion. Everybody held this view until the left decided Orange Man Bad is their organizing principle. The left is currently rallying to the side of Iran, not just on Twitter, not just by pushing Iran wartime propaganda on the airwaves and in the Washington Post last night. They were doing this even before. You can see it in two obituaries run side by side in the New York Times on the same day. We will get to that in a second, then we'll get to the Covington kids, but you know that safety is very important. No time has that been clearer than the last
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Starting point is 00:14:37 Here's the title of the obituary. Kassim Soleimani, master of Iran's intrigue and force, dies at 62. The master of the intrigue, the most interesting man in the world. He does kind of look like the guy from the commercial who's the most interesting man in the world. Here he did until, you know, master of intrigue and force, oh, he's so handsome, he's so brilliant, he's so wonderful, dies at 62. Now, here is football legend Sam Weish. Sam Weish, who was the last coach to lead the Cincinnati Bengals to the Super Bowl, but who was later fined by the National Football League for barring a female reporter from
Starting point is 00:15:22 the team's locker room has died. Those are the two tweets. Master of the intrigue and force. That's how they refer to the terrorist who hates America who's trying to kill American soldiers. a coach who led the team to the Super Bowl but was later fine for barring a female reporter from the team's locker room. That's how they refer to an American football legend. That's the New York Times for you.
Starting point is 00:15:47 That tells you everything you need to know. So beyond the mainstream media, which have lost, in my view, whatever little shred of credibility they had left by pushing Iranian propaganda as they are attacking our soldiers. Beyond the question of the mainstream media, the question is, are we at war? Yes. Of course we are. We've been at war for years, decades at this point. We've been in a renewed conflict with Iran for months. Killing Soleimani did not start that war. It was a response to the war that Iran started. Question is, should we be at war? Well, the trouble with war is that your enemy has a say. You're not the only guy who gets a say in war. Your enemy gets to have a part in that decision as well. Should we be at war? The answer to that is we must be able to deter our
Starting point is 00:16:42 enemies. Under Obama, we were not able to deter our enemies, and things got a lot more dangerous, and we got bogged down in a lot more conflicts. Under Obama, when Iran provoked us and took our sailors hostage, how did we respond? Did we kill their top military official? No, we sent them pallets of cash and apologize to them and thank them so much for letting our sailors go. Pathetic. And it gets us more bogged down in quagmires. Under Trump, they attack our embassy, they try to deliver us another Benghazi, and we kill their top military official, who was very likely going to be a leader of Iran someday. We must be able to deter our enemies. It would appear that we have deter our enemies because their response to our killing, one of the most important men in their entire country,
Starting point is 00:17:32 was to throw some rockets into the dirt and make a big stink about it and get their lackeys at MSNBC and the Washington Post to push their propaganda, but ultimately, as of this moment, not to kill any American servicemen or anybody. Then the question becomes, is war ever permissible? And this is a question that's been coming up on the right even these days, as well, of course, as the left. I expect the kind of moral incoherence from the left. But when it crops up on the right, that troubles me more greatly because the right is supposed to know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:18:04 But you've seen it. I mean, there have been people on the right, even on the far right, as the media calls them, who call themselves pacifists these days. They say war is basically never acceptable. And that is a morally indefensible position. Pacifism seems all really nice and happy and huggy and feely. it is an indefensible position. C.S. Lewis, the great theologian, the great moralist, he put this very well in a book called The Weight of Glory,
Starting point is 00:18:35 in an essay in that book called Why I'm Not a Pacifist. The key passage, C.S. Lewis writes, you should read the whole essay. It's really, really good. But the key passage is he writes, The doctrine that war is always a greater evil seems to imply a materialist ethic, a belief that death and pain are the greatest evils. But I do not think they are.
Starting point is 00:18:56 I think the suppression of a higher religion by a lower, or even a higher secular culture by a lower, a much greater evil. Nor am I greatly moved by the fact that many of the individuals we strike down in war are innocent. That seems, in a way, to make war not worse, but better. All men die and most men die miserably. That two soldiers on opposite sides, each believing his own country to be in the right, each at the moment when his selfishness is most in abeyance, and his will to sacrifice in the ascendant should kill each other in plain battle,
Starting point is 00:19:29 seems to me by no means one of the most terrible things in this very terrible world. Of course, one of them at least must be mistaken. And of course, war is a very great evil. But that is not the question. The question is whether war is the greatest evil in the world, so that any state of affairs, which might result from submission, is certainly preferable. And I do not see any really cogent arguments for that view. Absolutely right. The question here is not between wonderful, lovely doves who want us all to get along and those awful, terrible warmongers who are willing to send American soldiers overseas to go fight in these endless conflicts. That's not the question. The question when you're looking at these wars is what is the least bad option? What is the lesser evil?
Starting point is 00:20:21 what is going to protect American interests and secure peace over the long run, and maybe not just for the next week or two weeks or three weeks. This killing of Soleimani is a great example of it. There were many people on the left and some on the right, some prominent people on the right, who said the killing of Soleimani is indefensible. It's going to lead to all out war. It's going to increase hostilities. Trump realized that wasn't true.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Obviously, anything can happen in war, but we were already in a state of war. The question is, will responding, will offering the credible threat of violence, will reestablishing deterrence increase peace and prosperity over the long run, or will it diminish it? And it would seem that taking a hardline on Iran, killing their top military guy, has reestablished deterrence, even once all the smoke and fire clears from this missile attack where they send some rockets into the dirt. It's an important lesson to remember because pacifism is so seductive. It's such because you want to seem like a peacemaker, but pacifism is not a terribly good way to make peace. In the long run, strength establishes peace. Strength deters violence and weakness, which is what
Starting point is 00:21:46 pacifism is weakness only encourages greater hostilities. The key story today, I mean, the good news is, obviously, no reported casualties at this moment, that the strategy worked, that Iran is making a big spectacle, but as of right now, things are looking okay. That's the most important thing. The underlying story here is the absolute corruption of the media, the absolute disgusting media that would air Iranian propaganda. But we already knew that the media were absolutely disgusting, the mainstream media. How did we know that? Because of another story that broke yesterday. And this is the greatest domestic news story of the new year. Probably the greatest news story of the last 12 months. Nicholas Sandman, the Covington kid, who was filmed on video standing at the mall
Starting point is 00:22:45 in Washington, while a bunch of black supremacists were screaming awful things at him and some maniac Native American activist banged a drum in his face. And this kid stood with total dignity and just took it, stared at, didn't seed his ground, but didn't provoke anybody else. This kid was smeared all over the mainstream media. Reza Aslan, a former CNN contributor, said he had a punchable face. Everybody smearing this kid is a racist and a bigot based on nothing. That has just settled a lawsuit, a defamation lawsuit with CNN for an undisclosed amount of money, that lawsuit was initially for $250 million. I can only imagine what this kid got from CNN. If he got $25 million, that's amazing. That would be a tenth of the lawsuit. Even if he got $5 million,
Starting point is 00:23:38 I don't know, that would be incredible because he's also got these lawsuits out at The Washington Post. I believe he's got one at NBC. He's got them at all of these media outlets that smeared him. As he should, he should take them for all that they are worth. Because even after it came out that the mainstream media had unfairly smeared Nick Sandman, they still didn't recant their terrible reporting. They actually doubled down. He did an interview, this kid, on The Today Show.
Starting point is 00:24:06 NBC's Savannah Guthrie asked him, during this interview, after it was clear he did nothing wrong, after it was clear that he was the victim. She asked him if he wanted to apologize for anything. You feel from this experience that you owe anybody an apology? Do you see your own fault in any way? As far as standing there, I had every right to do so. My position is that I was not disrespectful to Mr. Phillips.
Starting point is 00:24:38 I respect him. I'd like to talk to him. I mean, in hindsight, I wish we could have walked away and avoided the whole thing. Wow. What a terrific response to an absurd question. She says, hey, okay, so, yeah, we figured out that it was those black supremacists who were screaming terrible things at you. And yeah, this maniac was banging a drum in your face. And you were just sort of standing there.
Starting point is 00:25:03 So do you want to apologize for standing? You're not supposed to stand. You're supposed to lie down and let the left and the mainstream. media trample over you. So don't you want to apologize for, you're not allowed to stand. You're a Catholic high school kid who was, who was in Washington, D.C. to demonstrate against abortion and to demonstrate for life and to try to put a stop to killing a million babies a year. You're not allowed to stand. You're a terrible, terrible person. So do you want to just apologize? And he said, no, I'm not sorry for standing at the national mall in Washington.
Starting point is 00:25:41 D.C. I don't, I'm going to check my 10 commandments here. I don't, yeah, I don't think there's any, any commandment against standing. Sandman's attorneys, Todd McMertie and Lynn Wood filed, it was actually more than 250. It was $275 million lawsuit against CNN. They said, very accurately, CNN was probably more vicious in its direct attacks on Nicholas than the Washington Post, and CNN goes into millions of individuals. individuals' homes. Here, I have to correct them. CNN goes into a lot of airports. It does not go
Starting point is 00:26:18 into millions of people's homes because, as far as I get dealt, not a soul actually watches CNN, but they do go into a lot of airports for some reason. They go on. CNN couldn't resist the idea that here's a guy with a young boy that make America a great again cap on, so they go after him. CNN settles. They've still got these lawsuits out at the Washington Post, NBC Universal. Those are also for $250 million. And they're planning to sue Ginnett, who are the owners of the Inquirer, rather. Okay, good news.
Starting point is 00:26:50 I'm very glad to hear it. At the beginning of the Trump era, we were told that the greatest threat of this moment is to the free press. The greatest threat was to those wonderful people in the mainstream media. Facts first, we're apples, not bananas.
Starting point is 00:27:05 That was a CNN commercial. We are the ones on the front line. defending the Constitution. We're defending. B.S. These people are horrible. They're horrible, horrible, horrible people. Okay. Like, I know that's a generalization. It's generally true. They push Iranian propaganda as Iran is attacking our troops. They push Iranian propaganda on TV and in the newspaper. They go after a high school kid for wearing a hat that says make America great again. It should be the least controversial. statement in the country. And they smear him, they defame him. They just lie about him. And usually they
Starting point is 00:27:47 would do it with impunity, except now people are pushing back against them. There should be, no one should believe even for one second anymore the lie that the mainstream media are brave, courageous defenders of the truth. They're liars. Are there good individual reporters? Of course there are. But the edifice, the entire system, is rotten to the core, and it must be dismantled and rebuilt again if you want to have any faith whatsoever in the institution of the media. We got to get to Hollywood because there is an amazingly brave man in Hollywood who he is making the choice to save our entire planet by re-wearing a custom
Starting point is 00:28:40 tuxedo a couple of times before discarding it and getting a new one. It's an amazing story. It comes to us from the fashion designer Stella McCartney. We will get to that. We will get to some other lies on climate change. We'll get to the dumbest article on the internet
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Starting point is 00:29:21 right back with a lot more. Take notes, everybody. Get your pen and paper out. And just try to understand the amazing work of this living martyr, Joaquin Friedman. The fashion designer Stella McCartley posts a photo on the internet of Locking Phoenix. She writes, this man is a winner wearing custom Stella because he chooses to make choices for the future of the planet. He has also chosen to wear this same tux for the entire award season to reduce waste. I am proud to join forces with you. X. Stella.
Starting point is 00:30:18 I was really upset because obviously the sun monster is going to destroy the entire planet unless we all make our sacrifices to the god of carbon tax credits or something. The world was about to end. It was on the brink of Armageddon. And then one man, Joaquin Phoenix, decided to wear a very, very expensive custom tuxedo. And that alone, the fact that he would wear a really, really nice high-end custom designer tuxedo, that would have been enough. Dianu, that would have been enough.
Starting point is 00:31:00 But he went further to save our planet. He's going to re-wear it like two or three times before he gets a new one. Like two or three times. Wow. You know, I, some people knock Hollywood these days. They say they're just a bunch of craven egotists who prattle on about nonsense and political silliness instead of just doing their jobs. But Joaquin Phoenix and Stella McCartney are saving the world.
Starting point is 00:31:35 I got to get my custom tuxedo. Maybe I'll wear mine four times before I throw it out. Then I can be a living martyr too, a secular saint. Obviously, this is a ridiculous story coming out of Hollywood. The only thing that ever comes out of Hollywood is ridiculous. And in Joaquin Phoenix's defense at the Golden Globes, he actually gave a pretty good speech about how if you care about climate change, you should actually try to do things yourself like, you know, not take private jets and fly commercial.
Starting point is 00:31:59 So I don't really mean to beat up on Joaquin Phoenix here. I do sort of mean to beat up on Stella McCartney. She's the one who made this ridiculous and stupid statement. But it's indicative of what we're hearing from the left around the world. Look no further than the fires that are ablaze in Australia. Really awful situation in Australia. A ton of wildfires over there. a lot of animals being killed, people being killed. I mean, really bad situation. Four weeks now,
Starting point is 00:32:24 we have been told that Australia's devastating wildfires are caused by climate change. NPR says, all these articles, how climate change is affecting Australia's wild, Australia's fires, ABC, how climate change has intensified the deadly fires in Australia. Washington Post, Australia's apocalyptic fires are a warning to the world. The Atlantic, Australia will lose to climate change. BBC is climate change to blame for Australia's bushfires? No is the answer. It's not. Do you know who's to blame for Australia's bushfires? The people who set the fires. Because now we've found out that police have arrested 183 people in connection with these fires. And they've charged 24 people with deliberately setting the fires. They've already charged them.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Police have taken legal action against another 159 people. Among them are 53 who allegedly failed to comply with a total fire ban and 47 people who threw a cigarette or a match on the land and helped to start the fires. Of course. What did you think? Did you think because possibly at the very, very worst case scenario, the earth has warmed like 0.002 degrees. in recent years, that that was causing all of Australia to be set on fire, or was it the people who set the fires? Obviously, it was the people. It wasn't this grand apocalyptic vision of climate eschatology that produces all of these models, all of which turn out to be bogus,
Starting point is 00:34:07 that never actually predict anything. New York City, not underwater, like the climate scientists, meaning Al Gore told us it would be. Florida, not underwater, like the climate scientists, meaning Al Gore and political activists told us it would be. Obviously, it's the people. Of course it is. But it doesn't deter them from pushing this narrative because the purpose of the mainstream media today is not to report the news. The purpose of the mainstream media is to push a narrow, specific, leftist agenda. So those are the people on what people on what you're one side. They push Iranian propaganda. They cover up the news. They try to ascribe major serious news stories to their own political narrative rather than to what's actually causing them.
Starting point is 00:35:00 And then on the other hand, you've got Trump, flawed though he may be. Trump said something the other day that I think is really important when we try to adjudicate his presidency or when we try to figure out where we stand, especially in an election year. Trump said, it's one of my favorite quotes he said since he's been in office. He was giving a speech to some evangelical Christians, and he said, quote, I may not be perfect, but I get things done. We've done things that nobody thought was possible. We're not only defending our constitutional rights. We're also defending religion itself, which is under siege. America was not built by religion hating socialists. America was built by church going, God worshiping, freedom-loving patriots.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Perfect. Yes. Obviously, his statement about America is true. I also love his statement about himself. People call Trump a narcissist. People say he's completely absorbed with himself. He can't see anything beyond himself. He has no sense of what's going on in the world.
Starting point is 00:36:06 He's the worst, most vicked, most unethical, most immoral president we've ever had. Does Trump have an ego? Yeah, I think he's got an ego. He slaps his name on every building he's ever looked at. Does Trump have a healthy self-confidence? Yes, I think he does. But as for his alleged narcissism, compare it to Barack Obama. Would Barack Obama say, I may not be perfect?
Starting point is 00:36:30 Ever? I don't think so. I think Barack Obama is the guy who says, seriously, with a straight face, when I am elected, the earth will begin to heal. and the oceans, the sea levels will recede and will have peace and harmony in the world. He said that with a straight face. Trump says a lot of things about how he's the only one who can ever do anything. Very often, though, he's kind of making a joke, he's being hyperbolic, because at the same time, he'll say things like this. I may not be perfect. Or a little while
Starting point is 00:37:02 ago he said, I have never had a drink, I've never had a beer. I may be the only president who's never had a beer. It's probably the only good thing you can say about me. Can you imagine if I drank, I'd be the worst. It's almost verbatim what he said. He was making a joke. He had a little self-awareness. People attack, the left attacks, Christians who support Donald Trump. They say he's a terrible example.
Starting point is 00:37:26 He's not a Christian. Guess what? The simple statement, I may not be perfect, is a profoundly Christian statement. It's a much, much more Christian statement than what we've heard in recent years from politicians. A little touch of humility, beyond the bragging, beyond the hyperbole, beyond all the showmanship. A little touch of humility, I may not be perfect. I don't have a beer, it's the only good thing you can say about me. That kind of thing is a keen insight.
Starting point is 00:37:59 And it also shows you the moral clarity that that humility can give you to say, look, I'm obviously a flawed vessel. I'm a flawed instrument here, but we've gotten things done that are really good. We're defending our constitutional rights, but we're defending religion. Because America was not built by religion-hating socialists. It was built by church-going God, worshiping freedom-loving patriots. That's a beautiful piece of moral clarity. And I think that for Christians who support Trump, we've known that the whole time.
Starting point is 00:38:29 We say, yeah, of course this guy is not some saint on earth, okay? The guy has lived a pretty shady life in many cases. But he's doing good things, and he's got a little bit of self-awareness, more than you could say. for a guy like Barack Obama, more than you could say for much of the Republican field for that matter. Okay, we've got the dumbest article on the Internet today. We've got to get to it in just our remaining few moments here because it's actually asking a very important question, but it gives a very dumb answer. The question it asks, Richard Freeman is a psychiatrist who wrote this op-ed,
Starting point is 00:39:04 said, why are young Americans killing themselves? suicide is now their second leading cause of death. It's a scary number. Suicide is the second leading cause of death among young Americans. And this is in recent years, you know, just in the past few years among 12 to 17-year-olds, suicide is up 70%. So he gives the introduction, then he writes, How is it possible that so many of our young people are suffering from depression
Starting point is 00:39:38 and killing themselves when we know perfectly well how to treat this illness. There's the problem. He's identified correctly, the rates of depression, skyrocketing, rates of suicide skyrocketing among teenagers. That's all very odd. But then he makes a mistake. He says, we know perfectly well how to treat this illness, and we don't. We know how to treat depression chemically, and sometimes you need to do that.
Starting point is 00:40:04 We know how to treat certain symptoms of depression through therapy. But what about the root cause? Not for any individual person, but as a social phenomenon. I think that it is no coincidence that almost directly in the same time frame as religion has collapsed, particularly among young people who largely were raised without any religion, so depression has increased and anxiety and stress and suicidality. And it's true among the whole U.S. population, and it's especially true among young people. I'm about to do this show.
Starting point is 00:40:45 We're launching this show. In addition to my current show, we're launching a show on Prager You called The Book Club. And the first book that we're doing for the book club is called Man's Search for Meaning by Victor Frankel. It's going to be a great episode with Dennis Prager. Victor Frankel's thesis in that book is that man's search for meaning. is the primary motivation in his life. The whole book is about living in this Holocaust concentration camp and then getting out in multiple concentration camps
Starting point is 00:41:11 and then getting out afterwards and making sense of his life. Man's search for meaning is the primary motivation in life. Now, there are competing theories. Some say that man's search for sex is the primary motivation. That's the Freudian theory. Some say man's search to impose his will on people is man's primary motivation. That's the Adler theory.
Starting point is 00:41:31 There are a lot of different psychological theories. What motivates us? It seems pretty clear to me, as Ronald Reagan quoted, Winston Churchill is saying, that when great forces are on the move in the world, we learn that we're spirits, not animals, that the destiny of man is not measured by material computation. If you are going to try to treat this terrifying phenomenon going on in society, especially among young people, you can't treat human beings as bags of flesh, as clumps of cells. We have flesh, we have bodies, but we're not merely flesh. We're not merely our bodies.
Starting point is 00:42:07 We also have a spiritual dimension. You might say that man is fundamentally a religious being. We have natural religious longings. Every single one of us, the most hardened atheist has religious longings, which is why when you get rid of traditional religion, you don't just get cold materialist atheism. You get a bunch of kooky superstitions, like the crystals and the chakras and the yoga and all of the, and Mercury is in retrograde and all of this kind of craziness. You know, often atheists and materialists will describe religious people, Christians, for instance, as superstitious. Christians are some of the least superstitious people in the world. We're the ones who are trying to ground our religious longings in fact. You know, the Gospels
Starting point is 00:42:58 aren't just poetry. The Gospels are journalism. And when you take that away, you get some of the craziest superstitions you've ever heard of. I don't really understand what the crystal thing is, but there are a lot of crystals, okay, or the New Age religion, or Marianne Williamson. Remember her when she was running for president in the Democratic primary? She was saying all sorts of cucky New Age stuff. Man is a fundamentally religious being. And even if you're a little skittish about religion, at least acknowledge the spiritual dimension of life, that our loves and our joys and our hopes and our dreams. Every single thing that actually matters to us is not material. It's not physical. And you are not going to be able to treat something like depression.
Starting point is 00:43:41 You're not going to be able to treat despair, right? Despair means the absence of hope. You can't treat hope if you're only looking at man as a material being because hope is not material. Hope is metaphysical. It's immaterial. It refers to the spiritual. He goes on, and this article he asks, what explains the epidemic of teen depression and suicide? There are lots of theories, but few definitive answers. Drugs and alcohol are always a popular culprit, but in this case, they are an unlikely explanation, as the studies cited above, controlled for drug use. In addition, there's no evidence of a significant increase in the use of drugs or alcohol in young people during this period.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Of course. Of course, the drugs and alcohol, even if they're involved, are a symptom of something else. It's so funny. This is a key characteristic of intellectuals and of cultural elites and of the mainstream media in our modern era is they're intelligent people. I'm sure this guy's got a very high IQ. Most of the people at the New York Times have a very high IQ. And yet they miss the most obvious answers. They often totally lack common sense.
Starting point is 00:44:48 What is causing depression? What is causing this mental health crisis? They say, we're trying to figure out all of the physical. causes, but we can't find a physical cause. Of course not. Because the cause is metaphysical. It's immaterial. It's something beyond this world, and it speaks to the natural longings that we have for something beyond this world. The only way that you are going to understand your own health, your own psychology, politics, culture, questions of domestic politics, questions of war and peace, like we're looking at right now. Or if you examine them, not merely on the physical,
Starting point is 00:45:25 level, not merely as though we're all just stuff. But if you take into account all of the metaphysical things that actually matter to us, when you take that into account, all of it, war and peace and love and hope and despair, all come into focus. All right, that's our show. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles show. Get your mailback questions in. See tomorrow. If you enjoyed this episode, and frankly, even if you didn't, don't forget to subscribe. And if you want to help spread the word, please give us a five-star review and tell you, your friends to subscribe. We're available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Also, be sure to check out the other Daily Wire podcasts, including the Ben Shapiro Show,
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