The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 49 - Mueller Indicts Democrats

Episode Date: October 30, 2017

Former Trump campaign chief Paul Manafort has been indicted for crimes related to lobbying that took place primary three to five years ago, but special counsel Robert Mueller may just have inculpated top Democrats and the Obama administration. Then, Roaming Millennial, Elisha Krauss, and His Eminence Paul Bois join the Panel of Deplorables to discuss Kevin Spacey’s gay out of jail free card, John Boehner’s bitterness at Republicans and praise for Obama, and why soyboy Buzzfeed betas have so little testosterone. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Former Trump campaign chief, Paul Manafort, has been indicted for crimes related to lobbying that took place primarily three to five years ago. But while the charges have nothing to do with the Trump campaign itself, special counsel Robert Mueller may have just inculpated top Democrats and the Obama administration. We'll analyze. Then, finally, at long last, roaming millennial is back. Alicia Krause and his eminence, Paul Bois, joined the panel of deplorables to discuss Kevin Spacey's gay out of jail free card,

John Boehner's bitterness at Republicans and praise for Obama, surprise, surprise, and why soy boy buzzfeed betas have so little testosterone. I'm Michael Knowles, and this is the Michael Noles show. I can't really knock these BuzzFeed Betas, by the way, because these stupid glasses make me look like a hipstery pajama boy, but more on that later. Okay, let's get to the main story. The Democrats have their first scalp.

Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort has been indicted on completely unrelated charges. They also got Manafort's right-hand man Rick Gates, and they've apparently also reached a plea deal with former campaign advisor, George Papadopoulos, not to be confused with George Succleupagus, who is the former Clinton War Room Clinton spokesman who pretends to be a journalist on television. This is George Papadopoulos. Nobody, it seems, has yet pointed out that the indictment almost certainly inculpates top Democrats, including Hillary's campaign chairman John Podesta's brother, Tony. For context, Hillary Clinton was spotted hobnobbing with Tony Podesta just this weekend, just like two days ago. Right now, inso much as this indictment suggests that the Republicans colluded with Russia, whatever that means,

we know that the Democrats colluded with Russia at least as much. And really, from all the evidence available to us, the Democrats committed far graver misdeeds in colluding with Russia because we now know that Hillary Clinton and the DNC paid a foreigner connected with Russia for alleged dirt on Donald Trump to skew an American election. You know, like the thing that they've been accusing us of for the last year incessantly. Yeah, we have evidence that they did all of that. She then lied not only about the $12 million price tag for that document, but she also absurdly denied any knowledge of it whatsoever.

The president's reaction was typically Trumpian. He said, sorry, but this is years ago. Before Paul Manafort was part of the Trump campaign, but why aren't crooked Hillary and the Dems the focus with five, there are five question marks. He goes on. Also, there is no collusion in all caps and all, you know, exclamation point. Now, it is worth noting. It appears that President Trump has deleted every tweet about Manafort from his timeline. So the White House is not happy about this, to say the least. Former Trump campaign advisor, George Papadopoulos, is cooperating with the special

council, and he apparently tried to set up a meeting with Russian officials for the purpose of warmer American relations with Russia, you know, to have a Russian reset or something. In order to, and these are his words, increase his importance as a policy advisor to the campaign. So we know that some campaign aide was offered dirt on Hillary. He apparently tried to get his hands on it. So what? We know the Democrats did this. We know they paid millions of dollars for this.

And I won't even knock them for it. I will not knock Hillary Clinton for her oppo research per se. I will knock her for the ridiculous hypocrisy of accusing your opponent. of doing the very things that you do. But every campaign does this. Every campaign tries to get oppo. They try to get dirt on their opponents. That isn't why Papadopoulos struck a plea deal.

The crime that he committed was lying to the FBI. This is always a bad idea. Do not lie to the FBI. They will find you. But the focus on Papadopoulos is a distraction away from Manafort and the Pedestigroup and why this case wasn't prosecuted for so long. We're not talking about crimes that happened six months ago. We're talking about crimes that happened five years ago.

So why wasn't it was a crime that happened five years ago? prosecuted. The federal government had all of this information before the election. Why is it being prosecuted now? The text of the indictment points to our answer. It reads, quote, as part of the scheme in February 2012, Manafort and Gates solicited two Washington, D.C. firms, Company A and Company B to lobby in the United States on behalf of Yanukovic, the party of regions and the government of Ukraine. For instance, Gates wrote to Company A that it would be, quote, representing the government of Ukraine in Washington, D.C. I know what you're thinking. Who exactly are these elusive companies A and B? The indictment goes on.

Quote, to minimize public disclosure of their lobbying campaign, Manafort and Gates arranged for the Center for a Modern Ukraine to be the nominal client of company A and B, even though, in fact, the center was under ultimate direction of the government of Ukraine, Yanukovych, and the party of regions. Tied to Russia. It goes on. At the direction of Manafort and Gates, Company A and Company B engaged in extensive lobbying. Who are they, Company A&B? Well, we know that five days ago NBC News reported that Mueller is investigating Democrat lobbyist Tony Podesta. The reason that name rings a bell is he's the brother of Hillary's campaign chairman John Podesta.

Now, this report went on and showed that Manafort had organized a PR campaign for this front group, the European Center for Modern Ukraine. Podesta's company was one of the firms that worked on the campaign. The Podesta Group also violated the Foreign Agents Registration Act because it only filed as a foreign agent when it was exposed that they hadn't. So they got caught and then retroactively they registered as one. Just this afternoon, this broke about an hour ago, Tony Podesta stepped down from the Podesta Group amid the investigation. All of the available evidence points to the indictment inculpating not only a major Democrat firm for undisclosed lobbying on behalf of Russian interests, Not only a major Clinton crony, but actually the brother of Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman.

We're talking about lobbying efforts that took place between 2012 and 2014. That's at least three years ago. That's up to five years ago. What took so long for the prosecution? Well, I don't know. What do we know about Barack Obama's executive agencies during that time? We know they were highly politicized. We know they selectively prosecuted perceived enemies like Dinesh DeSuzza.

They targeted conservative Tea Party groups through the IRS. We know they ignored major scandals. like fast and furious, Hillary Clinton's email scandal, on and on and on. Is it possible that the Obama administration didn't prosecute this case for years because it would have implicated top Hillary cronies in the run-up to her presidential run? The timing sure does make you wonder. For analysis, we bring on our expert panel of deplorables. Alicia Krauss, his eminence, Paul Bois, and at long last, finally,

an answer to my prayers the one and only roaming millennial. Roaming! Welcome back. First question to you, is this indictment a win for Democrats, or are Democrats going to hope that they never called for this special counsel? I would say that it's not necessarily a win for Democrats so much as a giant loss for Manafort, who I think we all kind of suspected it was a shady character. Oh, you seem squeaky clean to me. I don't know. You're talking about like that very heavy, angry look that he always worked. Connections that were coming out.

No, I mean, I'm someone who I look at this, and I, like you said, don't think this directly leads to collusion by the Trump campaign specifically. But I think, you know, from what I've seen, a lot of democratic experts analysis and commentators aren't really taking it that way. But what I think all these investigations have shown us is that the corruption in, at least a Democratic Party and their campaigns is definitely not squeaky clean either. And I would love to say that, oh, you know, this is great. This is going to increase accountability for them.

I don't think it's going to change anything really. And, you know, frankly, with this whole who's who, like, hot potato game of who's been collaborating with the Russians, I don't think we're ever, I don't know. I don't know if we're ever going to get that satisfaction of the vindication of, like, big prosecutions, like, people like Hillary Clinton actually being held accountable or, I don't know. I'm not optimistic that anything will change. But I do know that from what I've seen people who are against Trump, the Trump campaign are very, very happy about this. But is it even a big deal? I mean, we don't know who colluded with Russia. We don't really know what that phrase means anymore because either everybody did it or nobody did it.

I mean, what's the meat? I'm, of course, this apparently major Trump apologists who will just defend anything he does. Me too. I know I know I liked you, Romming. Right. But, I mean, when we actually look at what some of these things are, things like opposition information and research, personally, I wouldn't see that the same way as like election. ringing, right? There is a difference to be had there, and the term colluding with Russians is pretty vague. When we're talking about transferring millions of dollars, though, I think that is

substantial, especially to a foreign entity. I think that brings up questions of campaign finance laws, if nothing else. I'm not sure about the legality of it, just inquiring after, I guess, opposition research, though. That's true. And, you know, every campaign has APO research, but we know that in this case, Hillary Clinton's campaign gave $12 million to get this opo. So that does raise a lot of a different thing. Absolutely. Alicia, the White House is insisting that this indictment says nothing about President Trump or his campaign. Are they lying, or is this indictment to borrow a phrase, a nothing burger? I think that it's hard for both sides to say that this is a nothing burger, but also I think that you're going to see both sides. A friend Carol Markowitz who writes for the New York Post

brought this up. She's like, this is where you see both sides say, there's nothing here, and this is where you see the true fans of both sides truly come out. The Hillary Clinton Democratic, you know, DNC fans are going to say nothing to say, or look at there, look at the other guy, and then the Trump people are going to say, oh, well, he didn't collude.

There's nothing to see here. Manifor's a good guy. Look at what Hillary and Podesta did. And so I'd just like to say, shoe on other foot. We need to hold our side as accountable as, you know, we would want the Democrats to be. And I just got to say this news cycle is amazing, because now Matt Walsh and Ben Shapiro and yourself have just used the names in so many ways.

Although I do think it's really disappointing. I'm a fan of Sarah Huckney-Sanders as the White House Communications person now. She's much better than Spicer ever was. But I got to say, like, she's now using an excuse that the Obama administration used of, quote-unquote, lower-level staffer. Remember when we heard that time after time? I mean, next we're going to hear that Donald Trump is just finding out about these things from TV. Also another excuse that was often used by the Obama administration. So Sarah, I love you, girl, but come up with better talking points about this specific issue

because you're reminiscent of the good old days of where's Waldo when he was behind that same podium. And I think we can certainly both agree, whether you prefer Sanders or Spicer, that they are both vastly inferior to Mr. Much, Anthony Scaramucci, the finest man to ever hold sort of that position. Yeah, you have a soft spot in your heart for him, don't you? Oh, you know it. You're kidding me, he's probably my cousin or something. And as, you know, also on this what aboutism, we should make clear the indictment on Manafort is for lobbying that went on years ago that went on between 2012 and 2014. Which is that people like myself speculated why would Donald Trump hire him in the first place when he had had these connections and had been known by numerous politicians and corporations and groups and lobbyists, etc. in D.C. as a guy that was Putin friendly.

And that was a red flag to a lot of conservatives way back during the primary when Donald Trump hired him in the first place. I think it was just to get through that convention. I think he hired him as a, I think he fired him shortly after the convention. And he wanted to basically knock out poor old Ted Cruz. But I don't know. I mean, he had connections going back a long way to Stone, who, you know, Roger Stone also owned a company with Paul Manafort. So it is murky. I agree.

It is unclear exactly what Manafort's influences. You know Corey Lewandowski is somewhere. I don't know what he's up to nowadays, and I don't really care, but he probably woke up really happy this morning because he and Manafort were known to have at it in Trump Tower and not get along very well. And Ivanka and Jared Trump sided with Manafort originally because they wanted Lewandowski out as campaign manager.

So it's just I wish I were a fly on the wall just to see the happenings of what the Trump family really thinks about this behind closed doors. And, you know, Corey Lewandowski is probably doing a happy dance today. Christmas came early for Lewandowski, no question. Your eminence, Mr. Bois, the indictment lists company A&B, one of which, if I were a gambling man, I would say, is the Podesta group. Now, they did undisclosed lobbying for which Manafort is being charged. Why hasn't Mueller named those companies? Why hasn't Tony Podesta been indicted along with Paul Manafort?

Well, we know from a NBC news report that was posted just about an hour ago that most likely, that the company A and B is Mercury and, of course, the Podesta Group. Now, my reason as to why he says A and B could just be because one of those are named the Podesta Group, and that just automatically just puts John Podesta out there front and center. And I think possibly they just want to keep it all focused on Manafort and the Trump campaign. And as to why John Podesta has not been indicted yet, I mean, he has to, step down, we'll wait to see what materializes in the next couple days to see if an indictment is on the table for him.

So we know that Tony Podesta just stepped down as the head of the Podesta group amid this investigation. Do we wonder why this hasn't been prosecuted until now? They had this information for years. It's between three and five years old. Do you think, Mr. Bois, that this has something to do with the corruption of the Obama administration and the run-up to Hillary Clinton's presidential run? Absolutely. I think so. I mean, we all know that this Trump-Russia collusion thing is completely cooked up, and yeah, I would not be afraid to speculate that, no. Well, I would, because you might end up like Vince Foster or somebody, man. No, I'm kidding. I'm not going to get into those conspiracy theories. Now, we do have to get into Kevin Spacey cashing in his gay out-of-jail-free card, as well as the beta males at BuzzFeed. But if you're watching us on Facebook and YouTube, you've got to go to Dailywire.com. We can't give you the right.

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than the sky's blueness and water's wetness. Roaming. Oh, I'm sorry, I'd like to start with Alicia, actually. Was Spacey's first response? The response, yeah, I don't remember if this happened. It sounds really awful. By the way, I'm gay. Look over here. I'm gay. Was that too clever by half or was it the best response he had to work with?

I think that it was a very cynical but brilliant move by his PR team because as we saw, the mainstream media decided to run with the headline as Kevin Spacey award-winning actor comes out as gay instead of addressing the accusations that a now 40-plus-year-old actor made about him from a molestation attempt when he was 14 years old. I mean, it's despicable. And it was also very disturbing for me to read Spacey's words saying, well, you know, I was drunk at the time and I don't remember if this happened or not.

Yeah, I mean, we've all probably had a couple too many drinks and we would know whether or not something like this happened or had we perpetrated such a crime. It was very vague in its explanations. It wasn't black and white. If he knew that he wasn't guilty of this and he could have said, no one else,

you know, these people will vouch for me. No one else can say that this ever happened. This never happened again. I'm incredibly embarrassed. You know, something. But he didn't really take ownership of it. But he didn't deny it either. And I mean, I'm not an attorney, but from my layman's view of it, it looked as if he acknowledged that, yes, the event did happen.

But look over here because I'm finally coming out of the closet. And now we're hearing more and more reports. There's been a lot of people posting on social media that they have friends and family members that have also been assaulted by Kevin Spacey. And Netflix announced just before your show started, Fox News, CNN and numerous other outlets are covering it, that House of Cards has been officially canceled by Netflix. Well, that should have been canceled because the show's no good anymore. I mean, it was so good. That first season was great.

Yeah. But it was really, this season, it's my favorite show, and I couldn't even finish it. So maybe they were just looking for an excuse. But it is a lot. And this actually brings up a point. I was tweeting out some snarky comments last night about Spacey. And actually, I was a little surprised that conservatives were so happy that this guy in particular is going down, because he always struck me as sort of quiet,

private, doesn't rub his politics in our face. But, you know, I tweeted out something to the effect of, you know, the gay out of jail free court and all that sort of stuff. A gay friend of mine texted me this morning and he said, you know, comments like that are really flippant and they're myopic because this is a phenomenon that has happened in the gay community since the ancient Greeks that confused gay teenagers will look to older gay guys in their 20s or 30s and those relationships are prevalent and they happen. And to pretend that they don't and to pretend that all gay relationships should be exactly like heterosexual relationships are is uh misses the point or it's off pitch i don't know anything about it really i can

only take his word for it now the that this seems similar to basically what milo yonopolis was saying and what destroyed his uh career you know does i mean when people make comments like that is it just apologism for pederasty or pedophilia or does our rote reaction a risk turn a willfully blind eye to a phenomenon that is more common than we think. Roming, what do you think? Well, I think just because the phenomenon may or may not be common, that doesn't mean it's acceptable, permissible, or moral, right? And I think as a society, we, in general, we tend to minimize assault or molestation

when it's against young boys, and I think that's awful, right? And, you know, just hearing, I forget the actor's name, his account of the incident, I mean, you know, he was of this age, but he clearly, I think, doesn't feel like this was just this normal thing and it doesn't matter or, you know, anything like that. This is something that is very serious. And I've, you know, I have heard people in the gay community, men in the gay community talk about these younger, older male relationships as if they're just this normal thing, kind of almost like a mentorship. That's where the word twink comes from, right? That's a, you know, you're that drum all the time. No, no, this, this is abuse. And, you know, regardless,

like, we can throw around words like pedophilia, peterasty and kind of debate what, like, what is the age that it actually is pedophilia? I think regardless of, you know, strict definitions like that, when you look at it, these are relationships that have an unequal and uneven power dynamic and where I think people are taking advantage of others and I don't think, I don't think it's all right. And I really feel for these young men who are maybe confused in these situations who have these predators who are out to take advantage of them. I think, I think if it's true that Kevin Spacey did this, it's awful. And I think that even since the Harvey Weinstein stuff, it's been become more apparent to me via friends and families and

acquaintances and people's stories of unfortunately how many young men in our society are sexually assaulted that really weren't like the spotlight wasn't put on them during the hashtag me too campaign and this is a problem that exists for men and women in the country and i think roaming brings up a really good point that young men and teenage boys are typically not looked at as victims i mean we've seen this with the sexy teacher scenarios where were those teachers when i was in school exactly and and really making light of these types of assault on young men in the country. And I think it's something that needs to be addressed for sure. Mr. Bois, I always kind of liked Kevin Spacey, as I mentioned.

You know, he was a private guy. He's a very good actor. He generally isn't too political. Why are someone the right so gleeful that he has fallen down? I think it's mostly because by Kevin Spacey falling down, it's exposing the broader culture of sexual abuse in Hollywood. This has basically morphed now in just a couple of weeks from Harvey Weinstein to it's a full-blown scandal in Hollywood, akin to the Catholic Church that happened over a decade ago.

So it's big. And so now no longer Hollywood can stand on their pedestal and go lecture us and say, oh, you, you conservatives need to stop. Now reality has finally hit them. and the fire is spreading, and I think they just see Kevin Spacey is just another one, and they want to know who's going to drop next. Who's going to be the next big name? He's going to be the next big A-lister. Unfortunately, you know, Kevin Spacey, it's happening to, I mean, we've had Ben Affleck be accused of groping women

and it doesn't appear that anything. Why can't we keep Kevin Spacey and knock out Affleck? That guy's such a jerk about politics. Well, I mean, to get into some more conspiracy theory range here, mostly it's because Ben Affleck is the front man for Justice League. And I don't think Warner Brothers really wants their frontman for one of their top franchises to fall right now. So they're going to do everything they can in their power to ensure the media tries to just downplay his allegations a little bit more. There's also a very big difference between a 26-year-old man assaulting a 14-year-old boy and Ben Affleck, who allegedly was a serial cheater.

I mean, this is why Jennifer, a lot of the rumors were fueled why Jennifer Garner decided to finally leave him after a decade of him cheating on her numerous times. inappropriately groping a woman at a club. I mean, I feel like this is something that we talked about on an episode of Lady Brains over on Ricochet with my girlfriends the other day. All of us women have been, quote unquote, victims of sexual harassment in the workplace at some point in our lives, unfortunately,

but there's a big difference between a dude trying to smack your ass, excuse my French, you know, at a bar when he's drunk and you can respond to him versus a man luring you to his apartment, picking you up, throwing you on the bed, and then attempting to molest you. you?

Oh, I absolutely agree that the severity of Spacey's allegations are far, far worse than Ben Affleck. I'm just talking about, you know, the, how far is the industry going to go with this? I mean, are they going to take allegations against Ben Affleck seriously as they've done other people in the industry? Because other executives in the industry and agents have now been let go amidst harassment allegations, or are they just going to, you know, stop it with Ben Affleck and say, okay, we're not going to let him fall.

So that's mostly what I'm saying. Well, I think it was specifically with this. Spacey thing, more people need to fall because now it is coming out that it was a known thing by the casting crew on his sets to keep young boys away. And that is incredibly disturbing. If it was known by the casting crew, then it was known by higher ups and it was known by agents and it was known by parents. I mean, it's just, it's appalling to me. I would never agree to work with someone, let alone stay silent if I knew that that was their behavior. And I think there is also a big difference in how the media is treating things like Spacey

in Aflik versus people like Weinstein and there's also Terry Richardson who was the photographer because you know these are people who are generally behind the camera behind the scenes versus actors who we all know and can identify in studios have a lot banking on their faces and their public image so I think if you know studios had to choose between who they want to protect more I think there would be more invested in protecting the actors whose faces and reputation people care more and know a lot more about than people behind the camera like Weinstein that's the asset all right speaking of abuse and assault we need to get on to the people

assaulting and abusing our country. Former GOP House Majority Leader John Boehner is lashing out at conservative fellow Republicans like Mark Levine and Congressman Jim Jordan while he lavishes praise on Barack Obama. He accused Rush and Sean Hannity of having gone to the, quote, dark side. He reserved one word four-letter epithets for his House Republican colleagues. And Boehner said of Obama, quote, Some would argue on the right that he did more to divide the country than to unite it. But I kind of reject that notion because of it.

it wasn't him. John Boehner, our former leader, ladies and gentlemen, roaming, does he have a point, or do these stupid comments just vindicate conservative's criticism of John Boehner? Honestly, I think they just vindicate the allegations that he was a rhino, not a real conservative. And I'm someone who also felt very let down by John Boehner. I remember when he was first given speaker's show, he actually teared up when talking about how much he loved small business. I don't know if you guys remember that, but he actually did cry. he was giving his first speech. And in fairness, he also cries when he orders appetizers at lunch.

So it's a more common phenomenon. That's true like he orders his neck spray on tan. But just I think he kind of represents the, you know, GOP establishment par for the course, not really looking to change anything. And so I'm actually not surprised that he's doing this. And I see him the same level as I see people like John McCain, who, you know, they're just part of the establishment. and they look at these, I mean, people like Trump, but also other members of the GOP,

I don't know, people like Ted Cruz or Randpaul, who aren't really towing the party line. And I think they care more about politics and protecting the status quo than actual conservatism. I don't even think of John Boehner as a conservative anymore, quite frankly. So I'm not surprised that he's saying all these things. Mm-hmm. Alicia, are the conservative media, are we unfair to politicians, regardless of what you think about Boehner's extremely stupid comments, are we unfair to them? You know, it's very easy from a studio with cameras to throw stones at people who aren't being conservative enough. But these guys have to go out there, appease constituencies, strike deals.

Should we have more empathy for our Republican politicians? I got to say, I would jump to defend the great one Mark Levin, but I can't wait to listen to his radio show tonight because I'm sure, and I know that he is more than capable of doing that for himself. And full disclosure, I did produce the Sean Hannity radio show for seven years for the Great American. and even though Sean and I sometimes disagree on politics, during the time that Banner was Speaker, Sean was incredibly fair to then-Speaker Bainer.

I personally booked him numerous times on the Sean Hannity Radio show, heard on over 500 affiliates nationwide, folks. I even think that Sean helped him with a couple of re-election things, and it is unbelievable now how the tides have turned and he's like moping in his whiskey

with a cigarette hanging from his mouth. I wasn't going to go there, but you can. Mark Levine were so rude to him at the time. No. And then even a couple months ago, he did an interview where he talked about it's all talk radio's fault that we got Donald Trump. No, the beautiful thing about this country is our First Amendment that it allows Michael to sit there in his grandpa cardigan and say what he wants. Grandma Cardigan. Okay.

It allows the Great American Sean Hannity to sit in his studio in New York and talk about what he wants to talk about. And consistently, I actually think that you've seen that talk radio tends to represent. the true voice of constituents and the true voice of the American voters, far better than John Boehner ever had a grasp on, and that's why he lost his power. Absolutely right. Mr. Bois, I have interacted with many Republican politicians who have more contempt for their own base than they do for their opponents. Do Boehner's comments validate this ban in view of the world that we've been seeing that the politics is not divided between right and left primarily,

but primarily between the people and the elites? Oh, absolutely. I think so. This is just right in line. Yeah, I think this is just right in line with the John McCain's and the Mitch McConnell's. Just, you know, clearly not being a team player, just throwing people. There's hardworking people under the bus and turning Trump into some, you know, ogre that's like part of this like ugly nationalist populist uprising. And there's no legitimacy to it. So absolutely. It only fuels, like Ben Javieros said, this is the reason why Trump won and it will only fuel his win in 2020 if they want to keep going like this. I'm almost sick and tired of it, frankly. That is so much winning. Okay, now we have to get on to our final story of the day. This is science. We don't want to neglect science on this show. We're not science deniers from our friend Amanda Presta Jocamo at the Daily Wire. In an experiment on male attractiveness where BuzzFeed fellas compete to see who's hottest, four males had their testosterone level. tested. Not one, these are Amanda's words, by the way, but they're just so beautiful. Not one BuzzFeed

beta male met the average. Rather, all the men testing below the level of a typical 85-year-old male. Moreover, three of the four men tested below the average range, and the male with the highest testosterone level, Eugene, still had a relatively low T score. Now, this is a really personal issue for me because these stupid glasses that I have to wear make me look like a little soy boy too. Roaming, why does our culture see? built for Pajama Boys. Well, you know, with this whole BuzzFeed thing, I saw this actually yesterday, the day before on Twitter originally.

And I was shocked, but also not that shocked. I mean, I kind of explained everything. Everything started to make sense. And when I look at the guys in BuzzFeed, they're just the exact embodiment of what third-way feminism wants men to be and wants them to become, right? These beta cocks who have as much testosterone as the ladies on the view, right? And that's kind of what these tests confirmed. But how do you really feel?

But no, seriously, I look at them and I look at these test results, and I think they are kind of the, I guess, the realization of the current narrative we're seeing that attacks toxic masculinity. And I think, I mean, I don't want to make too broad generalizations or assume motives or things about people who may adhere to the progressive viewpoint. But I do think that a lot of the men I see attract to that, all the activists, BuzzFeed, Vox, whatever. Huffpo, they do kind of seem on the lower end of the testosterone scale.

I think that says a lot of a lot about the idiosalogy. Yeah, how much they tend to play into things like emotion versus things like facts and logic, which tend to be things associated with higher testosterone, masculinity, and men in general, which obviously these bus feed individuals are not. Do we have a cut of these guys just for a little context on what we're talking about here? Today we're gonna find out which one of you guys is the hottest tri-guy. Scientifically, of course.

Hotness, it's science, baby. What actually makes a man attractive? Today, more than ever, society and media appreciate hot men. Like us for Ian Steens. And we wondered if that sexiness could be boiled down to a science. We're here to find out if the prevailing theories

about male beauty have any truth to them. And we hear the test subjects. The tri-guies are going to be conducting six experiments. We're gonna draw our blood, measure our faces, and all sorts of wacky shit. I'm going to win all the categories today because I'm the most beautiful. Beautiful Keith and the rest. Marshall, can you please destroy these glasses from me?

Can you take these wherever you, like a nuclear waste site and make sure that they never see the light of day again? Thank you. Alicia, is this a generational trend or is this just more evidence that there is a huge divide between the American people and these weird elites that are in media and journalism and government? I mean, giving those guys the benefit of the doubt, I think they were kind of making fun of themselves there. It's very humorous. I'll have to go watch the full thing. But I actually think that any conservative men that are watching your show right now should be rejoicing because you have to compete with that and that ain't much, guys. So get out there, get married, be fruitful and multiply. This is my plan for conservatives to take over the United States again.

I don't know if I've mentioned this before. The then governor of Indiana, Mitch Daniels, I was talking to him one time at an event in Indiana, and we were saying, listen, it's looking really dire. Obama was president, everything was against us. What do we do? How do we win the culture and win the politics? He said, well, you can either persuade them or you can find a nice girl and get married and outbreed them. I promise you, the latter is more fun.

It does sound more fun to me. Mr. Bois, your eminence. A study came out recently which showed that more effeminate men are also more likely to be socialist, which surprised again exactly nobody in the whole world. Now, doesn't this observation imply that our political views are not entirely rational, but also shaped by something as elemental as hormones, or else it just means that masculine people are more rational? Doesn't this throw into chaos our idea that facts don't care about your feelings

and we have access to rational truth? You know, that is a very interesting question. Well, that's why I asked it, pal, because I think it's pretty interesting. As far as, you know, hormones relate. I mean, it certainly is built into the male character, absolutely, that a male character is supposed to, the male is supposed to lay his life on the line for the sake of his community and his family and his wife.

and I think the moment that the identity has gone out the window, which certainly has in the past 50 years, and man and males are just basically sitting around and pleasuring themselves and consuming things. I think the more effeminate their outlook. By the way, I just have to cut you off there. Do you have a camera in my apartment? If you put a camera in my apartment, Paul, take it out right now. It's a crime. Hominally men are always going to be males, and they're always going to have that aspect, that natural part of it.

but the socialization of them of turning that into that energy, that power into something that's useful, once that goes away, essentially what you're going to have is just basically a bunch of boys, overgrown boys, and that's what happens. Roming, are our hormones, are they controlling our thought processes? Are we just little people riding on the big elephant of the subconscious? Or can we rely on our faculties of reason? I think we can rely on our faculties of reason, and I don't think, hormones mean that, you know, no one is logical, no one is rational. I just think hormones mean

that some people who tend to be more feminine and effeminate males or women in general rely less on their faculties, right? And we've seen this in multiple studies. Men and, you know, people who are more masculine, whether it's men or women in terms of like their hormone levels, they're more rational, more logical, they care more about facts and, you know, hormones like estrogen, which women have an abundance. And apparently the BuzzFeed men probably. do as well. That tends to make people more emotional and more into feeling and things like that. And I think when we look at leftist arguments, a lot of them are based on emotions versus actual hard fact. A lot of them are trying to make government into some big compassionate family,

which is generally the domain and realm of women. So, you know, I don't think it's that no one's thinking everyone. We're all just slaves to our hormones. I think it's just that for our hormones kind of guide how much or little we depend on our facts and logic. And for some people that's very, very little. Roaming Millennial channeling Jack Nicholson in as good as it gets. How do you write women so well? I think of a man. That is all the time we have for today. We've covered all of the most important news right down to the Soy Boys. Panel, thank you for being here.

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