The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 515 - The Dictatorship Of The Experts

Episode Date: March 23, 2020

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Nearly 700,000 people filed for unemployment last week. More unemployment claims than we saw at the peak of the 2009 recession. We will examine the promising signs for a cure to coronavirus, and perhaps more importantly, the promising signs that President Trump is ready to free us from the dictatorship of public health experts. Then, mainstream media journalists humiliate themselves, because today is a day ending in why, and the New York City government publishes a helpful guide on how to have sanitary group sodomy during the pandemic.

All that and more. I'm Michael Knowles and this is the Michael Knowles show. All right, we've got a lot of updates here for the coronavirus, and I can't wait to show you the New York City pandemic sex guide, which is a real thing, which we will really get to. This is what the dictatorship of expertise gets us. First, what are the updates? Tax filing deadline has been moved. This is a very good sign. It's going to be moved to July 15th. So if you haven't done your taxes yet, you know, good.

You get a little bit more time. Some other big moves that President Trump announced on Friday. The U.S. border with Mexico will be closed to non-essential travel. President Trump has been trying to get this for three and a half years, and it took a global pandemic for it to work. But that is done. The U.S. border with Canada will be closed to non-essential travel. perhaps more important than closing the border with Mexico,

since there are all those Canadian socialists up there. Another important update, President Trump has invoked the Defense Production Act. This is a Korean War era law. It began in 1950, and this is a way to turn American industry to government ends. So, for instance, if you need to start producing a lot more ventilators, the government can work with private industry to do that. It sounds a lot more monumental than it is. I mean, it sounds like we're basically gearing up for World War II again.

I guess in a certain way we are. But actually, the Defense Production Act has been invoked many times. It was invoked by Barack Obama during his administration. It's been invoked something like 20 times since 1950. So not earth-shattering stuff, but, you know, everyone's so on edge during the pandemic that any time they hear something like that, they think that we're going to all at war or something. Student loan payments have been suspended for 60 days. So if you've got your student loans that you owe on,

You're certainly not in school right now, so it seems perfectly fitting that you don't have to make payments on those student loans. And no one's got any money coming anyway, so if you've already graduated, good that you don't have to make payments on those either. And the Indiana primary election has been pushed back to June. This is part of a trend that we saw starting in Ohio when Governor Mike DeWine decided he was going to cancel the primary for coronavirus. A judge told him he couldn't do that. He said, who cares about the judge and just closed the polling stations? so it's not just Ohio anymore, it's happening in Indiana. This is going to seriously affect the 2020 race.

It's going to affect all the way up until the Democratic Convention, and then it's probably going to have effects on the general election. So if you thought that the whining about it being an unfair election in 2016 was bad, just wait until we get to November of 2020. And then the big update on the numbers, we now have 451 deaths from, coronavirus in the United States. Now, this all began in late January. So, you know, obviously 451 deaths, very sad for each of the 451 people and their families, for all of us. But

it's not 100,000 people. It's maybe not as bad as some people were expecting. That, however, has not stopped the public health experts from telling us, really, we're still on the brink of civilizational collapse. That's why we all need to stay locked up in our homes and not go anywhere. This from Dr. Marty McCarrie, a public health expert from Johns Hopkins University, who is insistent that we keep up the hysteria, because if not, hundreds of thousands of people are going to die. Some of America still is in denial that we even have a problem. You know, we live in a very opinionated country, but this is not fantasy football here. These are facts, and this is data, and what's happening in Italy will happen in the United States. they had 793 deaths in the last 24 hours.

I saw your interview with Dr. Friedman just now. I don't think he answered your question about how many cases we're going to have here. We're going to have hundreds of thousands of deaths, and we're going to have millions of people with the infection. That's based on the data of Italy, extrapolated to our population. What they're experiencing now is over 4,000 Americans dying per day when we get to their point in the infection. Okay, this guy is seriously misrepresenting the facts. What he's doing has become typical of the mainstream media and the so-called experts. You know, the, we are, we are right now basing our national politics on the apparently sacrosanct advice of public health experts rather than dealing with politics as they are, which is where we discuss issues that are often eternal questions and try to persuade our fellow citizens. We've put all of that aside.

that entire American political tradition aside for the moment, and now we're just doing whatever these public health experts tell us. But are they telling us the truth? I mean, the first thing, if you're watching that clip of McCary, the first thing that's so strange is looking at on screen, you've got the host, then you've got Karl Rove as the Republican voice, then you've got Donna Brazill, the former head of the Democratic National Committee as the left-wing voice, and then you've got the public health expert as another left-wing voice. But he's not as another left-wing voice. But he's He's supposedly objective and merely scientific. If you look at Donna Brazil, the whole time he's talking about how, you know, 100,000 people are going to die, it's going to be mass chaos, he's going to be mass death.

Everyone on screen is very serious about it, except for Donna Brazil, who is like smiling and nodding. And it looks really weird. It's the weirdest, creepiest reaction imaginable. And if you, look, maybe she's just a strange person. But if you want to try to look into that and find out the political implications of it, it would seem that the political implications are that the left, I'm not saying the left are cheering on deaths, I'm saying the left is cheering on the alarmism, because the alarmism allows them to get more of their public policy priorities through. You saw the other day, Rob Reiner, Meathead from All in the Family, famously, far leftist guy, said, enough of this state-by-state lockdown. We did a national lockdown now, which is kind of, funny because Meathead says that he hates Donald Trump and yet he wants to give Donald Trump so much more power because really what the left wants to do, the thing the left loves about the coronavirus epidemic is obviously not the sickness. What it loves though is the power that is going to the

government right now and the total stopping of politics. There is no politics during the epidemic. It's just a tyrannical group of public health experts tell us what to do. Maybe for our own good doesn't change the fact that they are determining how our government is running. That's the first part that's pretty weird about this. The second part that's weird is that he's completely misrepresenting the facts in the United States and in Italy. We'll get to that in a second. First, I've got to thank our friends over at Liquid Ivy.

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Maybe. I don't know. I'm not a public health expert, but I do have reason to believe that he's misrepresenting the fact. So according to McCary, Italy is the exact preview of what's going to happen in the United States. and the reason we're believing McCarrey is because he's an expert from Johns Hopkins. What's strange, though, is according to data from Johns Hopkins, the death rate in Italy isn't anything like the death rate in the United States. Right now, the death rate in Italy is 7.94% from coronavirus. But the death rate in the United States is only 1.68%. Now, they might say, well, that number is going to rise and rise and rise as the United States gets closer to the stage where Italy is. They'll say that Italy is 11 days ahead in terms of the pandemic than we are.

Is Italy got it so much sooner? But that doesn't seem to be true. If you even track Italy in the United States day by day, we did it last week. I think it was last Wednesday or Thursday. If you looked at where the United States was in terms of death count compared to where the United States is compared to where Italy was 11 days prior, Italy had 200 deaths. The United States had 100 deaths, even though the United States is five and a half times larger

than Italy. So even if they were the equal populations, we still had many fewer deaths. And then you look at how much larger our population sizes, and you see that that rate is significantly lower. So why are the Italian numbers so high? What is it about Italy? Well, there's some good reason to believe that Italy is simply a different country than the United States. I mean, not just in terms of the literal question, they are literally different countries, but in terms of the national makeup. So the journal of the American Medical Association, JAMA, shows that 40% of infections and 87% of deaths in Italy have been in patients over 70 years old. Yeah, this tracks with what we've been hearing the whole time. I mean, even if you just look sort of superficially, you realize

Italy has the oldest population in Europe, the second oldest population in the world. They all greet each other by kissing and they're all smokers, right? And they, they, don't have a particularly functioning government. And so it's just a little bit different than the United States. I mean, there was one story, I kid you not, it came out out of Florence, that the mayor of Florence, various politicians there, in the early days of the coronavirus, endorsed a hug a Chinese person campaign, hug a Chinese person,

so that it could be shown that Italians are not racist. We are now told we're not even allowed to hug our spouses. We're not even allowed to hug our family members for the risk of the virus spreading. But Italy early on was willing to risk that entirely to show how not racist they are. Probably not the wisest public policy move. According to JAMA, the majority of people in this group are seriously being affected by the coronavirus in Italy are likely to need critical hospital care, including 80% of 80-somethings, which is putting a ton of stress on the Italian healthcare system.

But there's an expert there, another expert, who's on the other side of the question, Professor Richardi, who says that actually the reason isn't just from the age groups and the way the hospitals are run. Actually, it's a reporting issue. So he says, quote, the way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus. That means if you go in and you've got coronavirus. So you're 84 years old. You've got coronavirus. You're admitted to the hospital. Also, you've got stage four pancreatic cancer.

Also, you've got pneumonia. Also, you had a stroke last week. If you are admitted to the hospital with coronavirus and you die there, then it will be recorded in Italy as you have died from coronavirus. But that's very confusing because there's a good chance that person would have died a week later anyway, whether they had coronavirus or not. So how do you track it? We have this tracking problem in America, too,

although I think I actually have the solution, and it's going to put a lot of left-wingers in a bad position when they try to extrapolate the last two weeks and make it into a national power grab policy. We'll get to that in a second. First, I've got to thank our friends over at LifeLock. So it's tax season. Luckily, the deadline was extended.

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and you just look to people who died directly, immediately of the coronavirus, primarily of the coronavirus. You could bring down their death numbers by something like an order of magnitude. But it depends on how you look at it. So we have this in the United States too. A big scare example came out last week here in my own city of Los Angeles. We'd been hearing 80-year-olds die of coronavirus. 75-year-olds maybe, but people who are young do not until last week we heard of a 34-year-old guy in L.A. who died from the coronavirus. I think he had just gone to Disneyland. So he was in a very

crowded place, made it even scarier. That is a scary headline, especially if you are someone about my age. What they buried in the article, though, is that this guy had underlying health conditions and some pretty serious ones. He had a lifelong history of as a of frequent bronchitis, and then as recently as three, four years ago, he had testicular cancer. So he was treated for cancer. This is no easy treatment. And then he got coronavirus. Those details are relevant here because something tells me that the health of somebody who doesn't have those chronic conditions, who hasn't recently been treated for cancer, is quite different than somebody who has. So how do you figure out who is right? There are two groups of people right now,

as I see it. They're the people who say that shutting down the world economy, pausing everybody, locking everyone in their apartments is perfectly reasonable and there should be no end in sight. And really, if anything, we underreacted. So the Democratic governor of New York summed up this view. Andy Cuomo. Andy Cuomo has now, all the left-wing governors are trying to one-up each other. So, you know, Governor Newsom in California does something. Andy Cuomo wants to do more. than that. Or the local mayors. Eric Garcetti in LA does something because the leftist mayor of San Francisco does something. So then the governor wants to do it right. They're all one-upping each other. Andy Cuomo said of his policy to more or less lock down the state, he said, if everything we do

saves just one life, I'll be happy. Now, how are you going to argue with that sentiment? you don't care about human life? That's the conclusion. If you don't want to do everything that Andy Cuomo has done, then you don't care about human life. Now, of course, this policy is absurd. None of us actually believe it's true. 90 people, 100, actually, I think the number is closer to 100 or 102 people die on average in car accidents every single day.

So we should ban cars, right? Because there we wouldn't just be saving one life. we'd be saving 102 lives a day, 102 people who would go home to their families every day if we got rid of automobiles. So do you not support getting rid of automobiles? What? You don't care about human life? You're not as wonderful and moral a person as Andy Cuomo?

No, of course not. That's not the takeaway from that. I mean, even just consider what Andy Cuomo is saying. He's saying, if we stop the global economy and that saves one life from the coronavirus, it was worth it. How many lives are going to be ended because we stop the global economy? I mean, just forget about how the supply chain is going to affect people, forget about how all of the confusion is going to affect people's lives, just consider everyone losing their jobs.

Record number of people have applied for unemployment. We'll get to that in a second. When people lose their jobs, suicide ticks up. I personally know of two people who have killed themselves because of early. two people who have tried to kill themselves, one person who succeeded because of this shutdown, coinciding with this shutdown. These weren't, you don't need to send sympathy or anything, and these were not like close friends of mine. But these are stories that I've heard of from friends of mine. So I'm only one degree removed from them. How many more stories are there like that? okay if if just me just i have heard of two people doing this one of whom succeeded at it what's going on around the country already you know let's say one person lives from coronavirus

but then one person kills himself because he lost his job if we're taking a purely utilitarian calculus here probably wasn't the smartest thing to do right that's what andy quom that's Andy Cuomo's calculus here. That's one group of people. And I think what they're saying is indefensible, but it's emotionally very compelling. The other group of people think maybe it wasn't the greatest idea to shut down the global economy. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't, we just don't know. That's the group of the skeptics. So there's the people who say, grind everything to a halt. Please install Dr. Fauci as our world ruler who will tell us everything. to do a wise and noble emperor. And there's the other group that says, maybe we need to balance

different things. Maybe we shouldn't just focus with 100% myopia on the coronavirus. This is what is meant by the dictatorship of public health experts. There's a leftist idea that the people we should put in charge are the experts. And this has been the leftist idea for hundreds of years now. If you're the public health expert, then you've got to run all of public health. policy. If you're the environmentalist expert, you've got to run all environmental policy. Now, the trouble is, all these different areas of policy affect one another. If you're the economic expert, you've got to run all of economic policy. They all affect one another. And so there's a conservative idea, which is that, of course, we should listen to the opinion

of experts. Of course, we should look at the data, look at science. But the experts are actually the last people we should put in charge. Because the experts, by definition their whole career has been putting on blinders so all they can see is their one field of expertise. But actually, in governance, in politics, you need to take off the blinders. You need to have generalists in charge so that they can not miss the forest for the trees.

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How do we figure out who is right here? You can't do it by simply counting deaths from coronavirus. You can't do it by the counterfactual either. You can't say, well, had we not done these measures, then the numbers would have been the same, right? Because all we know is the effect of what we actually did. Right. What you'll hear from the power grab people at the end of all of this, even if we lock down the whole country, and we get to the end of it, we crash the global economy. And let's say only 50,000 people die, you know, something comparable to a flu epidemic.

What they will say is we had to do what we did, because if not, 10 gazillion people would have died. And you would have no way of proving that wrong, except this one. The way to count the effectiveness of these policies is to first factor in, all the people who would have died anyway, even without coronavirus. This would fix the recording problem in Italy. So every single day, about 7,500 people die in the United States. Of heart disease, car accidents, all sorts of ailments, people die. I know that we forget this in our materialistic culture, but people do die.

So 7,500 people die per day. What we now need to do, and that takes in seasonal flu, that takes in seasonal flu, that takes and all other sorts of epidemics. What we need to do to figure out the true death toll from coronavirus, both in the United States, in Italy, elsewhere, is simply figure out how many more people died per day. Now, by the way, you can't take it just day by day because that's an average.

So you have to look at exactly how many people die different seasons of the year. When this is all over, when we're calculating the death toll, we need to take that number into account. It also will allow us to compare it across countries. is our response like Italy? You know, that expert who went on TV McCary at the top of the show, he seems to think that we're exactly like Italy. Some people want to point out that actually our response has been quite different from Italy.

We don't have hugging campaigns. We have social distancing campaigns here, for one example. We closed down the border much earlier. If the number is massive of extra deaths from coronavirus here and elsewhere in the world, we will know that we did the right thing. If the number is not massive, if the number is more comparable to, say, a flu epidemic, we will know that we perhaps overreacted. We will be able to hold to account people who stoked the hysteria.

Now, luckily, President Trump gets it. The left doesn't get it. The left is going bonkers, and they're posting a lot of weird videos and weird sex guides around the internet, which we will get to. But President Trump is showing evidence that he really does get it. He's smacking down the mainstream media all the while to show it. We'll get to that in a second. First, I've got to thank our friends over at the DailyWire website, actually. Not even our friends and a regular sponsor.

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And he's standing Dr. Fauci and Mike Pence and Mike Pompeo are behind him. And he cracks a joke about how he's got to get Secretary of State Mike Pompeo back to the State Department, or as some people call it, the Deep State Department. You know what I'd like to do? I'd like him to go back to the State Department, or as they call it, the Deep State Department. You don't mind. I'd like to have him go back and do his job. So does anybody have any question?

Please. So the greatest part of this exchange is, first of all, Trump is not allowing this pandemic to cower him. He's not allowing it to force him into retreat and to defer simply to the dictatorship of experts. But when you look at the chief expert in the country, Dr. Fauci, who's been doing a very good job, the minute that Trump says the Deep State Department, you see the smirk just tick up on Fauci's face, and you can see he's just trying to suppress a laugh. So his mouth is all sort of contorting. Then he just puts his head down.

You know, he's like scratching his forehead so that he can hide his smile. he's obviously getting a kick out of it really gives me even more confidence that the guy knows what he's doing that he can crack a laugh about the bureaucracy in our federal government that the next aspect of Trump's response that is really

giving me confidence is a tweet he sent out last night all caps, that's how you know that a Trump tweet is really serious he tweets that quote we cannot let the cure be worse than the problem itself at the end of the 15 day period we will make a decision as to which way we want to go, exclamation point.

Love this. My man. That's exactly what you need to say right now. Because right now we're in quarantine. We've been in quarantine for what, like seven days or so. And the thing that's making the markets tank, the thing that's making people freak out is we don't know when the end is going to be. Is this going to drag on for two weeks, two months, 18 months? I don't know. We got to wait for the experts to tell us how to live our lives, I guess. And whatever they say, that's what we're going to do. Give up our liberties. Don't go to Mass.

They close churches everywhere. That's cool. That's fine. You take all of our freedoms. Take everything that we want to do indefinitely. I don't think so. Americans are willing to have solidarity, come together, help each other out, even suspend some of our rights for a limited period of time. We need to know when that comes to an end.

And this 15-day period was what they talked about at the beginning. 15 days to stop the virus or to slow down the spread of the virus. Cool. I'll be a sport for 15 days. Won't be a sport for 15 months. Won't be a sport for 15 years. Need an end date.

And so that end date now, it looks like it would be about March 30th. I really hope that President Trump sticks to this. And barring some seriously evidenced catastrophe on the horizon, if we don't extend it, I want him to end it at 15 days. there were almost 694,000 new unemployment claims between last Monday and last Wednesday.

That blows the 2009 recession out of the water. It actually blew past the 2009 recession. How much longer are we going to let that go on? Are we going to let the unemployment rate get up to 30 percent? Maybe. Maybe it's already going to go there. Are we going to let it stay there for months and months, crash the economy? probably not a great idea.

There are unintended effects of that that our public health experts simply cannot factor in. The media are furious at Trump for trying to remind people that this is going to end quickly for trying to find a quick solution to this. They're furious at Trump

because he attacked a reporter over this exact question. He called an NBC journalist a terrible reporter for asking Trump what he would say to Americans who are scared. That's the narrative. The narrative the mainstream media is putting out for you right now is that a reporter asked a perfectly legitimate question.

Mr. President, what do you say to Americans who are scared? And Trump unhinged, crazy, up against a wall, couldn't give an answer to this question. And it was such a horrible moment for Trump. The exchange came after President Trump announced the possibility of a breakthrough regarding a cure to coronavirus. A drug called chloroquine, and some people would add to it hydroxy, hydroxychloroquine. So chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine. Now this is a common malaria drug. It's also a drug used for strong arthritis. Okay, this is the drug. He goes on to describe it.

I love the way he did, chloroquine, some people look, some people might say hydrarchus. oxychloroquine, okay, I'll take any either name. But it treats malaria, treats arthritis, and this may have an application to coronavirus. Hey, great news. There should be applause from the press in that room, right? How exciting. That's not what happened. Now, here is the very selectively edited clip that is going around the internet now and being

pushed by the mainstream media and all the blue check marks to make Trump look like he's throwing a temper tantrum. What do you say the Americans who are scared, though? I guess nearly 200 dead, 14,000 who are sick, millions, as you witness, who are scared right now. What do you say to Americans who are watching you right now who are scared? I say that you're a terrible reporter. That's what I say. I think it's a very nasty question, and I think it's a very bad signal that you're putting out to the American people. The American people are looking for answers and they're looking for hope. And you're doing sensationalism. And the same with NBC. and Concast. I don't call it Comcast. I call it Comcast. Let me just have for whom you work. Let me just say something. That's really bad reporting. And you want to get back to reporting instead of sensationalism. Let's see if it works. It might and it might not. I happen to feel good about it, but who knows? I've been right a lot. All right. Trump very forcefully has been right

a lot. But the response from most people, when they see that clip, as they say, it was a totally fair question. It was a totally outrageous response. Look, he was just asking, what do you say to Americans who are scared? Trump can't answer that one, that softball, right? Wrong. Because that was Alexander's follow-up to the first extraordinarily biased series of questions. Here's the real clip. Dr. Fauci said there is no magic drug for coronavirus right now, which you would agree. I guess on this issue, I think we only... Is it a little bit... Sorry.

I disagree. Maybe and maybe not. Maybe there is, maybe there isn't. We have to see. We're going to know. Is it possible that your impulse to put a positive spin on things may be giving Americans a false sense of hope? No, I don't think so. I don't think so.

I think that, I think it's got. The not yet approved drug. I mean, such a lovely question. Look, it may work and it may not work. And I agree with the doctor what he said. May work may not work. I feel good about it. It's all it is, just a feeling.

I'm a smart guy. I feel good about it. And we're going to see. You're going to see soon enough. That's the prelude to Trump going off on the reporter. Then he goes, yeah, but what do you know, what do you say to Americans who are scared? He goes, you're a terrible reporter. You keep interrupting me.

You keep asking these condescending questions. I mean, from the very beginning, Peter Alexander from NBC, his question is, hey, there's no magic drug. It's not mad. word magic? Hey, Mr. President, what do you think? Look, the way that you always put a positive spin on things, you know how you exaggerate and lie, you liar? Yeah, well, what do you think? Don't you think that's giving Americans a false sense of hope? Really, they're all going to die, aren't they? They're all going to die. Tell them they're all going to die. And then Trump starts to answer, and Peter Alexander keeps speaking, keeps interrupting him as he's answering. Frankly, I think

Trump held his temper very well. Until the very end, he goes, hey, Buster, you're a terrible reporter. You're a hack. Your outlet is a hack outlet and you're not helping the situation here. You're not reporting the news, first of all, and you're scaring people and you're doing sensationalism and you're trying to make this situation worse. Absolutely right. But then it gets even better. The most outrageous part of all of this, don't forget, this was in response to Trump saying there's this drug called chloroquine which might help. It's showing some promise. Media pile on him. Peter Alexander, This is false hope. Andy Cuomo, Democratic governor of New York,

gives almost the exact same press conference, touting in almost the exact same terms, the exact same drug. Here he is. We're also implementing the trial drug. We have secured 70,000 hydrochloroquine, 10,000 Zithromax, from the federal government.

I want to thank the FDA for moving very, expeditiously to get us this supply. Okay. Same. That's basically the same exact news conference that Trump gave. Tone is always a little bit different, but the substance of it, identical. When Trump does it, it's a false sense of hope. What happens when Andy Cuomo does it?

Brian Stelter, CNN, take it away. It's been a remarkable show of leadership by Governor Cuomo in recent days. He's providing hope, but not false hope. Not false hope. That's what Trump peddles. when Trump is using the exact same words Andy Cuomo is using, that's false hope when Andy Cuomo does it. That's real hope, not false hope.

This is CNN, facts first, mainstream media. And then, because look, maybe you say, okay, look, they're both left-wing outlets, NBC and CNN. Maybe they just had a different take on this. No. John King on CNN goes on CNN and explains in court. vulgar language, why President Trump's reaction to Peter Alexander was totally outrageous.

It was BS. I sat in that room for just shy of 10 years. It was a perfectly valid question. And what the president did to Peter Alexander is reprehensible. The American people are looking for answers. They do want hope. They do want support, Mr. President. That was a very fair question.

Our Caitlin Collins is in the briefing room right now. She was there for that contentious briefing. Caitlin, this is a Trump trademark. This is a Trump trademark. It was striking that this came. And this, forgive me, bullshit attack on fake news came just moments after the Secretary of State said the American people need to be careful about where they get their information and go to sources they can trust. I get there are at times disagreements.

There are at times contention between politicians and reporters. That was a 100% legitimate question with no hype, no shade, no bias. He just wanted to attack. No, no bias, no shade, no hype, nothing. No, not at all. But, hey, by the way, that was BS. That was outrageous. That was terrible when Trump did it. But Andy Cuomo, wow, not giving anyone false hope. Thank good. I mean, no reporter would ever even dare to ask him the question that they asked Trump. Of course not. He's peddling true hope, not false hope. What a clown. What a total clown that guy is. First of all, do you remember when journalists didn't have to use four-letter words on national television and their news reports? Well, I guess you'd have to remember all the way back to when there were actual journalists and reporters out there and not leftist hacks, just taking any pot shot they can at the president, even when it swings back and humiliates themselves. The New York City government, speaking of humiliation, the New York City government has published a guide to having sex during a pandemic.

You think the vulgar language used by John King on CNN was bad. Just wait until you hear the, the, the, the actual public health recommendations from the New York City government. I am not exaggerating when I tell you this document, sex and coronavirus disease 2019, is the filthiest document I have read in quite some time. I will just give you the highlights. And if you have young children, you should cover their ears for the next two minutes. All New Yorkers should stay home and minimize contact with others to reduce the spread of COVID-19. But can you have sex?

Here are some tips for how to enjoy sex. avoid spreading COVID-19? Enjoy? All right. That's kind of weird. That's not usually like clinical, public health language, but that's fine. We still have a lot to learn about COVID-19 and sex. Have sex with people close to you. You are your safest sex partner. Masturbation will not spread COVID-19, especially if you wash your hands and any sex toys with soap and water for at least 20 seconds before and after sex. You are your safest. I guess it is sex with someone I love,

but I don't, this doesn't seem like the kind of advice you should be getting from your government. The next safest sex partner is someone you live with. Having close contact, including sex, with only a small circle of people, helps prevent spreading COVID-19. You know, not exactly the same sort of advice we used to hear from our leaders on sex.

Or maybe our parents would say, you know, find a girl you love. get married, live happily ever after. Now they're saying, have sex with a small circle of people. Not a large circle. That would be wrong and immoral. But a small circle of people, that's fine. If you usually, you should avoid close contact including sex with anyone outside your household. Now, this raises a lot of creepy questions that I don't want to get into. If you usually meet your sex partners online or make a living by having sex, consider taking a break from in-person dates. video dates, sexting, or chat rooms may be options for you.

Mayor Bill de Blasio telling us to sext. That's why we elected him, I guess. Now it gets really, this is the part really cover up the ears. Take care during sex. Kissing can easily pass COVID-19. Avoid kissing anyone who is not part of your small circle of close contacts. Rimming, mouth on anus might spread COVID-19. Virus and feces may enter your mouth.

This is published by the New York City government on how to handle the pandemic. Condoms and dental dams can reduce contact with saliva or feces, especially during oral or anal sex. Good. Always wanted anal sex tips from my mayor. Washing up before and after sex is now more important than ever. Wash hands often with soap and water for at least 20 seconds. Interesting stapling job they did here. That's interesting.

wash sex toys with soap and warm water. Thanks again, Mayor de Blasio. Disinfect keyboards and touchscreens that you share with others for video chat, for watching pornography or for anything else. Forget about the debate we've been having on the right, which is should city governments regulate pornography or even ban pornography? We had obscenity laws in this country. We still do, actually, all over the place, but they're rarely, if ever enforced these days. Now you've got your city government encouraging you to watch pornography, encouraging you on how to watch pornography.

Skip sex if your partner is not feeling well if you or a partner may have COVID-19, avoid sex and especially kissing. So maybe you can have sex, but definitely don't kiss your sex partner and prevent HIV or other sexually transmitted infections and unplanned pregnancy. By the way, kind of an interesting thing. We've shut down virtually every institution in this country because of the coronavirus, and yet abortion clinics remain open. Apparently that's an essential service.

It shows you the priorities of the experts, maybe shows some ulterior motives, shows us that maybe this is not just a public health dictatorship that we're living in. It might be something of a political dictatorship, because when questions of health become public health and use the arm of government to enforce their dictates, all of a sudden we're talking about a political question. And unless you want to live in a world that issues more and more guidebooks like the New York City sex guide, unless you want to live in a world in which government bureaucrats are invading the most personal and perverted aspects of your life, and encouraging those perversions, by the way,

then we're probably going to want to return to normal sooner rather than later. We will listen to the public health experts as they guide us on that way. But ultimately, we will have to make the decision ourselves. That's our show. We've got a whole lot more to get to. We'll have to do it tomorrow. In the meantime, I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles show.

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