The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 525 - Locked Down Or Locked Up?

Episode Date: April 8, 2020

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Our exalted experts want to hold us prisoner to coronavirus for another 18 months, while prosecutors dish out felony charges to formerly free Americans who have the goal to go outside for a walk. We will examine the junk science behind the most outrageous political power grab of our lifetime. Then, China infiltrates a White House press briefing. President Trump threatens to cut funding to the World Health Organization, and Joe Biden steps up and addresses the nation about his weakness for Figg-Newtons. All that and more.

Michael Knowles, and this is the Michael Knowles show. They want to keep us locked up forever. That's it. Initially, it was 15 days to stop the spread. Then it was going to be another two weeks after that. So what? No, I'm sorry, another 30 days after that. So it's going to be 45 days total. Now they're saying maybe another month. Now they're saying maybe another month. And Zeke Emanuel, Ari Emanuel's brother, Rahm Emanuel's brother, one of the architects of Obamacare, says that we could be locked up for another 18 months while we wait for. for a vaccine for the coronavirus. You know, even the rosy numbers coming out of the White House,

we hear from Larry Kudlow. He's saying it could be another four to eight weeks. Very different than 15 days. 45 plus eight weeks. That's a lot of time. But that's the rosiest number. Now we're hearing it could be as much as 18 months. Here is that Obamacare architect telling us why we've got to all hunker down for a year

and a half. Realistically, COVID-19 will be here for the next. 18 months or more. We will not be able to return to normalcy until we find a vaccine or effective medications. I know that's dreadful news to hear. How are people supposed to find work if this goes on in some form for a year and a half? Is all that economic pain worth trying to stop COVID-19? The truth is, we have no choice. If we prematurely end that physical distancing and the other measures, keeping it at bay, deaths could skyrocket into the hundreds of thousands, if not a million. We cannot return to normal until there's a vaccine. Conferences, concerts, sporting events,

religious services, dinner in a restaurant. None of that will resume until we find a vaccine, a treatment, or a cure. Oh, oh, is that so, Dr. Emanuel? Well, all right, then, in that case, respectfully, how about you go stuff it, guy? All right, stop, stop it. Stop it. stop telling us based on faulty models that we can't do anything that we want to do and we've got to listen to you and do exactly what you say. If these guys had been right from the beginning, then they would have a lot of credibility now. All right, I'm not saying that we have to be against quarantines per se. I'm not saying that we can't suffer economic hardship if there's an epidemic. The trouble is these guys have been wrong from the very beginning, okay?

And we cannot be shut down and locked up inside of our apartments under threat of prosecution for 18 months. Just can't happen. Why? For four reasons, as far as I can see it. First of all, we cannot afford it. We were locked down for, what, two or three weeks? And in order to deal with that the Congress had to pass the largest stimulus measure ever. We needed to come up with six trillion dollars in relief. Two trillion passed by Congress, another four trillion levered up by the Fed, just to get us through a few weeks. How much money are we going to need to spend for 18 months? We could probably buy the Green New Deal two or three times if we were to get through all of that, which of course we cannot because that's not how economies work. And we'll have a little more on

that later on. Second reason, that won't work. The models have been wrong. And this point, I cannot harp on it enough. We were told time and time again, two million Americans are going to die, right? Or more than two million Americans, maybe, from coronavirus. We were told, even if we follow all the great measures and the social distancing and wear the masks, we're still looking at what, half a million? few hundred thousand at least, if not half a million, if not a million. Those were the more modest estimates. How does that compare with reality? Right now at what we're being told is the peak of the virus, more Americans died from

swine flu under Barack Obama than have died so far from the coronavirus. Now, look, that number is going to change where even if we are peaking and we're on the downside of the slope, that's still a lot more misery to go through. But right now today, at the peak, more people died from swineau. then have died so far from COVID-19. So let's say the number right now is about 12, 13,000. Let's say the number gets up to 30,000 or 40,000 or 50,000 or 100,000 even. Those are numbers that are similar to the number of deaths we see each year from drug overdoses.

And who knows how the drug overdose deaths are going to be affected by this? When there's economic collapse, guess what goes right through the roof, drug overdose deaths, and suicides. So the very people who sold us the bogus models are the ones telling us that we now need to remain locked up for a year and a half. Why else can't we handle this? Two very important reasons. The last one is the one that nobody's talking about. We'll get to that in a second.

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I think we do. We have multiple medicines that are in the works, probably most notably hydroxychloroquine, which the left, by the way, is still trying to cover up. We'll get to that in just a little bit because the New York Times is behaving even more egregiously than usual when it comes to this drug that has shown great promise. treating coronavirus. So do we have a vaccine yet? No, but a vaccine could take 18 months. And until we have a vaccine, we have a drug that has been shown time and time again. So many doctors, we've played a number of them on this show who say that that drug is working. So we check that box and yet

this expert still wants to drag it on 18 months. The fourth and final and most important reason that we cannot lock down for 18 months more is that this is the most insane political power grab that we have seen in our lifetimes. Ever. Okay, you want a great example of this. I read this story yesterday out of Cincinnati. Hamilton County prosecutor Joe Dieter is now not only ordering people to stay at home. he's now saying that if you go out, go for a walk, violate your stay-at-home order,

you will be arrested, you will be charged with a felony, you can, quote, sit your butt in jail, you can sit there and kill yourself. I don't care, but you're not going to kill my kids and you're not going to kill my neighbor's kids. I'm done with this nonsense, so we'll see what happens. This lunatic, who, by the way, is wrong on the facts because the coronavirus has not been shown to infect, just about anywhere. So the safest people from coronavirus are children. Complete demagoguery on his part. But what he is saying is that if you, a free American, have the gall, the audacity to walk outside, you will be arrested, charged with a felony. You can sit in jail and kill yourself.

Yeah, you can go sit in jail and kill yourself because otherwise you might kill people. Otherwise, people might die. At the same time as government officials around the country are releasing violent criminals. In New York, in a jail, they released child rapists because they didn't want the jails to be overcrowded. This schmuck is arresting people, charging them with felonies, throwing them in jails for going for a walk. He says, I told the chief to charge him with felonious assault. I don't care. This is going to stop. I'm telling you, at least now the guy is going to stop. Now, he got even more specific because you think, okay, well, maybe people. people don't need to go to bars or clubs or things like that, not that they're open. But surely there's

got to be some exception, right? There's going to be some exception for, say, if you go to church, right? No, actually. Joe Deiders says, if I was the governor, I would tell these churches, the first attendees at your church is going to be the National Guard, because we are stopping this right now, okay? We're stopping it. No one is asking you not to pray to God. No one is asking you not to pray to Allah. No one is asking you not to pray. It can be done remotely. It's not a problem. But if it applies to kids and over the Rhine, it should apply to those churches, too, and they need to just stop it. So first of all, just on a theological point, he's wrong. Okay, for certain denominations and certain religious groups, you can just do it at home.

It doesn't matter if you go to church. For churches that recognize the sacraments, most notably the Catholic Church, but Protestant denominations too, you do have to go to church. You can't just do it from home forever. It does matter that you're in person. So a very ignorant statement. And not only is it ignorant of the religion, it's ignorant of our tradition of religious liberty and liberty generally in the United States. This lunatic has gotten drunk with power.

Here are some examples. He had the police arrest Rishon Davis, this guy who decided to walk outside. Had the police just arrest him, charge him with a felony. He's not just a big talk. with this guy, Joe Deeters, it's actually happening now, too. And you know what's true? I looked up this guy, Joe Deeters. He's actually had a pretty good career. He's got mostly conservative political positions. He's been around a long time. Right. It's not as though he's some deranged left winger. What's so scary about this power grab is that it's corrupting even conservatives, even right

wingers. It's corrupting people in government because they are stealing absurd, unprecedented power in many cases, and something tells me they're not going to want to give it back quite so easily. The point is, this shutdown is not without consequence. Okay, there are many hidden costs to the quarantine, not just to our economy, but to our government, not just to our government, but our way of life to our politics and not the least of all to lives. There are consequences to lives of the quarantine. People will die because some demagogues and experts and politicians are trying to save people. Andy Cuomo in New York, he said, if everything we do saves just one life, it will have been worth it. Let's take a look at just one effect of this alarmism and this

quarantine and this hysteria to see if it's worth it. This story takes place in Illinois. There is a man living with his girlfriend. The man is paranoid. He's afraid that his girlfriend has the coronavirus. So she goes, she gets tested for the coronavirus. She comes back. Before they get the test results, the man kills his girlfriend and kills himself.

This is according to the sheriff's office in Will County, Illinois. Murder suicide because he was so afraid of getting the coronavirus. What are the circumstances of this? Was he afraid that she would give it to him? Was he afraid that they would both have it and die in misery? Was he completely ignorant of the statistics and the reality of this virus? Maybe because it was so hyped up by demagogues in the media and in politics? Yeah, I don't know.

All I know is we got two bodies now. line on the ground because of the alarmism. So, look, I don't do this kind of utilitarian math, but Andy Cuomo apparently does. So you got the one life that you've saved from the coronavirus. Now you got two body bags from the alarmism. How do you do that calculation? How do you make that? Strigal, if we saved one life, it was all worth it?

Was it worth it? Does Andrew Cuomo still think that it was worth it? This is not just one random case in Illinois. or I suppose it is a random case. It's not just a standalone, though, because we know when there are economic downturns, suicide goes up. We know, as we said earlier, drug abuse goes up. We know that people die in these situations. So was it worth it? By the way, we don't even really know how many people have died from the virus. Even the official count, we don't know. We'll get to why that is in a second because Dr. Birx at the White House just confirmed that for us

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side? Even if we were going to do that, we don't know how many people have died from the coronavirus. That's according to Dr. Berks yesterday at the White House. We know that now because she told us that deaths from coronavirus are being recorded, in her words, in the most liberal way possible. So, in other words, if anybody dies with the coronavirus, then they are going to be recorded as dying from the coronavirus. So I think in this country, we've taken a very liberal, approach to mortality. And I think the reporting here has been pretty straightforward over the last five to six weeks. Prior to that, when there wasn't testing in January and February, that's a very different situation and unknown. There are other countries that if you had a pre-existing

condition, and let's say the virus called you to go to the ICU and then have a heart or kidney problem. Some countries are recording that as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death. Right now, we're still recording it. And we all, I mean, the great thing about having forms that come in and a form that has the ability to market as COVID-19 infection, the intent is right now that those, if someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19. 19 death. All right, this makes a huge difference. It might not seem like it does because you say, well, look, I'm sure the COVID-19 didn't help the condition. Sure, but it makes a huge difference. According to the New York City data, 65.5% of New Yorkers who have died from coronavirus had at least

one pre-existing condition. And these pre-existing conditions usually are pretty serious. Specifically, we're talking about diabetes, lung disease, cancer, immunodeficiency, heart disease, hypertension, asthma, kidney disease, and GI liver disease. They had at least one of them. Now, 65.5%, or 65.5%, that's pretty high. Another 32.6% of New Yorkers who have died still have preexisting conditions pending. We don't know whether or not they had preexisting conditions. Do you know how many people who died of COVID-19 in New York were confirmed not to have pre-existing conditions? 1.9%. Just 1.9%. As of yesterday, that's 46 people. Look, that's still scary. If 46 people who were otherwise healthy dropped dead because of a pandemic that was started in China

that came here and took us all by surprise, that's a scary number. But it's a very different number than if thousands of people in New York are dying from that, right? This is not to say that some lives are more valuable than others. This is not to say that we should throw the old and the frail off a cliff. What this tells us, though, is how virulent the disease is. And if the virulence of the disease matches what we're being told in the media, if somebody with stage four pancreatic cancer who does not have a good prognosis, who's got weeks, maybe a month to live, contracts coronavirus, and dies in the hospital. Do we really believe that that death is caused primarily by the coronavirus? No, of course, nobody does. But because of the liberal way,

to use Dr. Berks's terms, that the deaths are being recorded, we will not know those numbers. So it will, if anything, inflate the numbers, and it could inflate the numbers of coronavirus deaths pretty significantly. Why are they doing it? Why record the deaths this way? We saw this kind of recording in Italy. We haven't seen it in a lot of other places. This method of recording the data gives a lot of cover to politicians, gives a lot of cover to alarmists who have shut down the global economy because two million Americans are going to die. And then now it looks pretty clear that two million Americans are not going to die. One million Americans are not going to die. The number could be significantly lower. Now, order of magnitude lower or

even more so. This method of recording seems to have a lot more to do with politics than it does with medical science. It seems to me that the more good news we get about this pandemic, the more the media wants to shut that up, the more hysterical the media wants to become, the more alarmist the media want to be to try to prove that they were right all along. Best example of this is the medicine that has been treating coronavirus. There are lots of different medicines out there that might be useful for coronavirus. There are a lot being tested right now. But the one that always comes to mind is hydroxychloroquine.

That is the drug that was touted by medical doctors, by initially some in the media, by Governor Andrew Cuomo in New York, and by President Trump. Hydroxychloroquine has just been shown to be very effective. And the reason it's so helpful is because it's already been. approved by the FDA for malaria. It's a drug that we have a lot of. It's cheap. We can reduce quickly and we know that it doesn't kill you because it's been safe to use for other diseases like malaria, like lupus, others as well. So the New York Times is furious about this. Because how are they going to raise the alarm bells? How is this going to be this massive,

unprecedented, endless pandemic if we've got a medicine for it? So the New York Times, is taking every shot they can. You know they've been going after him for hydroxychloroquine now for weeks. They've been trying to get him to shut up about this drug. So the headline yesterday, you have four New York Times reporters on this. Peter Baker, Katie Rogers, David Enrich, and Maggie Haberman, Hillary Clinton's favorite journalist, headline is, Trump's aggressive advocacy of malaria drug for treating coronavirus divides medical community. Divides them, huh? Well, I think Doctors who want to help their patients don't seem divided on it. They seem to be prescribing the drug.

I don't know. Maybe they count themselves in the New York Times as part of the medical community. Maybe they count narrative doctors or doctors of narrative medicine like the person who wrote in the New York Times yesterday. Maybe that's who's divided on this. But the real doctors don't seem divided. So the article doesn't even spend too much time on the efficacy of the drug. the real political hit job in this essay is trying to suggest that President Trump has corrupt motives

for promoting the drug. So they say some associates of Mr. Trump's have financial interests in the issue. Sanofi's largest shareholders include Fisher asset management, the investment company run by Ken Fisher, a major donor to Republicans, including Mr. Trump, a spokesman for Mr. Fisher declined to comment. So what's notable here is they've tried to tie hydroxychloroquine to Donald Trump, but they can't do it very well. So they say, you know, he's got a little bit of a stake in a company that has a stake in a company that has a stake in a company that has a stake in a company in a company. So they realize their better attack is going to be to go after Trump's friends. So if Trump's friends have any investment in a company that invests in a company that invests in a

company that ever once invested in hydroxychloroquine, then they're going to say this is corruption. As of last year, Mr. Trump reported that his three family trusts, each had investments in a Dodge and Cox Mutual Fund, whose largest holding was in Sanofi. Sanofi is this company that I guess produces hydroxychloroquine, except Ashley Causs, a Sanofi spokeswoman, said that the company no longer sells or distributes placanil, which is the brand name of hydroxychloroquine in the United States, although it does not sell it internationally. or although it does sell it internationally. So they're saying, okay, so Trump has some investment in a mutual fund that invests in this

company, Sinoffi, which used to distribute a drug called Plaquanil, which is the brand name of hydroxychloroquine in the United States, but they don't distribute it anymore. So basically, it's total corruption, and he's just trying to fill his pockets. Then they go on, they say, several generic drug makers are gearing up to produce hydroxychloroquine pills, including amnial pharmaceuticals, whose co-founder, Chirag Patel, is a member of Trump National Golf Course, Bedminster in New Jersey. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. So they can't really, I mean, look, anybody who has a 401k invests in some company that invests in some company that maybe has some drug. You don't even know what's in your portfolio. So they know that that's not

going to stick on Trump. So now they're saying that there are other companies that are working on this drug, which, by the way, undercuts their first argument, because the first argument is Trump's cornering the market, right? He's going to fill his pockets with this drug. If other companies are producing it, then he's not filling his pockets. But the other companies are producing it, and they're saying, this is corrupt because one of the companies that's working on it has an investment by a company, by an investor, by a fund, and one of the people who invests in this is a member of one of the Trump golf clubs. If that is the best they've got, they need to just shut down the New York Times right now.

Look at all these words. Look at all the, look how long this article is. Oh my gosh, it's so long to tell you that bombshell that a member of one of Trump's golf clubs has an investment in a fund that invests in a company that isn't right now producing all the hydroxychloroquine, but maybe, maybe will eventually. And then I looked, this is even more fun. I looked to see how much money Trump had invested. Because this thing was blowing up. Joe Scarborough tweeted about it. Seth Abramson at Newsweek tweeted about it. Kyle Griffin, MSNBC news producer, tweeted out this New York Times article,

Aaron Rupar from Vox.com, serious investigative journalists. They're all tweeting about it. By the way, even George Conway, Kelly and Conway's husband, who was a major Trump critic, even he admitted this was pretty weak. But you had all the hacks were tweeting about it.

So I looked, I wanted to see how much, much money Trump had invested in hydroxychloroquine? Take a guess. Donald Trump, billionaire, very wealthy man, how much money do you think he invested in hydroxychloroquine? If you look at the percentage of his investment in the fund and the fund in the company and the drug. So Trump's investment in the company that produces hydroxychloroquine, or that doesn't currently in the United States, but used to, is at most $1,350. That's how he's getting rich. That's it.

He's using a pandemic to promote a company that used to promote this drug, that used to produce this drug that's going to be used so that he can turn his $1,350 investment into a $2,000 investment? It gets better than that. Because we don't know exactly how much of the company he could own. That's the highest amount. At the lower end, the investment could be worth as little as $90. He's going to, that's it.

He's going to use a global pandemic to bring his $90 investment up to $120. He's going to make a cool $30. And then he's going to treat everybody to ice cream afterwards at the White House. It's so, so pathetic. So that attack failed, spectacular. from the New York Times. So when that failed, the press decided to attack him for possible negative health consequences from the medicine. And Trump did something very wise here. He didn't just go after the media on the facts. He went after the media on the narrative.

And that's the thing we're all going to have to do if we don't want to keep ourselves locked up for the next 18 months. We'll get to that in the second. First, I have got to thank all of you, all of you, all of you, DailyWire members and All Access members. You know, if you haven't checked out the all access live show over at daily wire.com, you're missing out. This is the new members-only program where I, Ben, Jeremy, Drew, Matt Walsh, where we all sit down on different nights and we just kind of hang out. Turn the camera on. It's not even really a show. I think of it as just hanging out. It's like a conference call or a happy hour. I consider it a happy hour because often I'm drinking during those shows. So definitely go check it out. It's very fun. And initially this was

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so quick to administer this drug to dying patients. Here is the reporter. With millions of pills of hydroxychloroquine donated, is there a plan or system in place to track the potential side effects? Is there having been serious harm? So is there a plan to track the side effects? The side effects. The side effects are the least of it. Yet people dying all over the place.

So you know that this is already going to be some unfair questioning because she gets the question out, hey, are you guys tracking the side effects of this drug? And then President Trump starts to answer, and she keeps interrupting them. And the side effects and the side effects, and there are going to be all these side effects. Because they're so upset, they're so crestfallen

that the drug is working. They're so upset that people are getting better. because then it can't be Trump's fault and Trump can't be responsible for killing a million people. Drats! Ah, they were sure they were going to get him this time. The Russia thing didn't work

and the taxes didn't work and the Ukraine thing. Remember that? They impeached him over Ukraine and a phone call. That didn't work. But they're going to get him. He's going to kill a million people.

Then we'll really get him. Drats, foiled again because he's promoting a drug that's working. So now all they've got left is they say, what about the side effects. And President Trump gives what I think is the perfect answer to it. He gives the answer not merely

in scientific and medical terms, but in narrative terms. A woman last night, I watched her on one of the shows, Good Show, Laura, and she was, she thought she was dead. She was a representative from Michigan. She was just in horrible shape for 12 days, 14 days. She thought she was dead. I think she said that her doctor said,

you know, it's going to be very tough. She saw me talking about this, and she asked her husband to go to the drugstore. Now, this is a Democrat representative, a person that, you know, perhaps wouldn't be voting for me. I think she'll be voting for me now, even if she's a Democrat, even if she's a Democrat representative. He gave it to her. Now, you know, it's, I don't say it works like this at all. Four hours later, she awoke, and she said, I feel better. and then shortly thereafter she felt great.

This is a woman that thought she was going to die. Her manner of speaking, the way she told the story was beautiful. I asked my husband to go and get it, he got it. She is now okay. So he goes on, but I think you get the point. President Trump is flipping the left's narrative on them. The left's narrative, this whole time, from Andy Cuomo, to Zika Manuel, to the experts, to the media, to the politics.

decisions. If you oppose them, you want people to die. That's what they're saying. If you, if you even so much as question what they're doing, you want people to die. If you oppose shutting down the global economy, you want people to die. If you oppose arresting people for leaving their homes, you want people to die. Now they've gone even further. They say, if you support giving people access to the medicine that'll save their lives, you want people to die because of hypothetical side effects or something that don't even exist. New York Times, right? Just yesterday I was talking about how if you support giving people this medicine,

you want other people to die because there is a hypothetical shortage of the medicine for people who have lupus, even though there's no evidence of that shortage at all. None of that is true, but that is the narrative they're pushing out. So Donald Trump, master of narrative, flips the narrative on its head. He says, if you oppose giving people this drug, then you want people to die. And he picked probably the perfect character to destroy the left-wings narrative here

because we're talking about a democratic politician. This was a Democratic representative who was on death's door and then takes the drug and now is all better. Not just a Democratic representative. A woman. Not just a Democratic woman. A Democratic black woman.

I mean, it checks every intersectional box that the left talks about all the time with identity politics. So now Trump is saying, if you oppose giving people this medicine, you want a black, female, democratic politician to die. And I won't let that happen, not on my watch. This is the right attitude. This is how we've got to start speaking. We like to play by all the proper rules, Marquess of Queensbury rules,

totally fair, above board, no punches below the belt. the left punches below the belt. The left demagogues, the left emotionally manipulates. Now, we should be better than the left, but we've got to be able to counter their narratives as well. Trump showed us a great way how to do that. He was pretty brutal in this press briefing all around. This is one of the hallmarks of it. You see these motifs coming back in all the press briefings.

He'll talk about the cure and the drug and giving people some hope. He'll talk about how serious it is, so we can't just reopen tomorrow. He'll then humiliate one reporter. He humiliates one reporter every single day. And yesterday that reporter was a young man who asked about how this is all affecting the price of oil and what our energy response is going to be to this. So the kid barely gets his question out before President Trump corners him and asks him a simple question, a question unfortunately that he couldn't answer.

What's the price of oil? Okay, just checking on oil again today. I was wondering. Oil? Yeah. Where is it today? Well, I was wondering if you... No, no, where's the press? Give me the press.

I'm not sure, to be honest. How can you ask a question when you don't know the press? I'll look it up for you. Okay, let me do somebody else since. Go ahead. Oh, that's so brutal. That is so humiliating. I don't even know... I don't know who that reporter is. He might be a perfectly nice guy. He might have just been having a bad day, and he made the unlucky mistake of not preparing for that one part of the question.

Trump has got to keep this up. This was great. Because, look, I don't, again, I don't want to be unfair to this reporter. He might have just not looked up the number beforehand. He should have known if he says, I was just checking on oil and I want to ask you about oil. And Trump said, okay, well, what's the price? It's pretty important information if you want me to give you my answer on oil. And he says, I don't know.

He's got to keep the reporters on their toes. First, it puts the reporters on the defensive. and it discourages unfair questions. If the reporters know that he's going to grill them, then they're not going to be so loose with their questions. You know, it's actually the same justification that we have for having the reporters in the first place. We have reporters ask tough questions

so that we keep the politicians on their toes. But the politicians need to be tough too, otherwise the reporters are going to take advantage. That's the first reason. Second reason is it shows to everybody out here that contrary to the media narrative, President Trump actually knows a lot more about what's going on than all these media people who are condescending to him

and who are criticizing him and who are mocking him. What this shows, when it's just him and the reporters unvarnished, live TV, it shows that Trump knows a lot more than our self-appointed elites in the mainstream media do. You don't get that when you just watch pre-recorded, left-wing cable news. You don't get that when you just read the New York Times, but live unvarnished on TV, you do see that. And it's why it's important for Donald Trump to humiliate these reporters on occasion. He's got to do it fairly, and this was a fair way to do it. But the press comes out there

every day and tries to unfairly humiliate Trump. And so Trump's got to give it back to them, and then the people can decide. There was some news that came out of the briefing yesterday, beyond Dr. Birx, who said that we're going to be recording these deaths in a way that's going to compromise our data, beyond these other questions that came up. The most important news that President Trump broke is that the United States is planning on defunding the World Health Organization. The WHO, that's the World Health Organization, receives vast amounts of money from the United States, And we pay for a majority, the biggest portion of their money. And they actually criticized and disagreed with my travel ban at the time I did it.

And they were wrong. They've been wrong about a lot of things. And they had a lot of information early, and they didn't want to do very, they seem to be very China-centric. And we have to look into that. So we're going to look into it. We pay for, give a majority of the money. that they get. They called it wrong. They called it wrong. They really, they missed the call. They could have called it months earlier. They would have known. And they should have known.

And they probably did know. So we'll be looking into that very carefully. And we're going to put a hold on money spent to the WHO. We're going to put a very powerful hold on it. And we're going to see. Love that. Great idea. Should have done it a long time ago. The World Health The WHO is a mouthpiece for the Chinese communist government. And has been for some time now. I mean, I mean, this is not a conspiracy. This is, you can look exactly to the dates when they appointed their own lackey to run the WHO. Guy who runs the WHO is a politician and it's a communist politician that was specifically

requested by the Chinese government. And as payback for that, this guy has been carrying water for them. Totally ignored the warning signs of the pandemic. didn't even send experts over there until February, despite the outbreak happening in China, possibly as early as October. And who knows, we might find out it was even earlier than that. WHO, actually the most intense, passionate campaign they've waged during this whole pandemic was to get President Trump and other people to stop calling it the Chinese coronavirus because they wanted to hide China's culpability in all of this.

an egregious organization that has not only failed, but has really carried propaganda for some of the worst people on earth, and they shouldn't get a penny of our money. Speaking of China, China infiltrated a White House press briefing. A reporter, this was not yesterday's briefing, but the day before, a reporter kept pestering Trump with questions about China and all the good that China is doing and how China's helping out, and why won't he keep working with China? And so President Trump just flat out asked this person, said, what outlet are you with? Are you with an outlet that is with the Chinese government? And Trump was absolutely pilloried for this in the mainstream media as a racist, as a xenophob, as a bigot, all the usual stuff. Here's the exchange. I hope they got to honor the deal. We'll find out.

With China? Are you cooperating with China? I don't know. Who are you working for China? Do you work for China or are you with a newspaper? Who are you with? Hong Kong Phoenix TV. Who owns that, China?

Is it owned by China? No, is it owned by the state? No, it's not. It's a private law on the company. Okay, good, okay. Okay, good. And you can hear in Trump's voice, he doesn't quite believe it. So the press, they say, how racist.

Just because this woman looks Chinese and sounds Chinese, you're asking if she's working for the Chinese government? Of course, that's not why he was asking. He was asking, because it sure sounded like she was asking questions that were nice to China. Right? I don't think he was doing it because of how she looked or sounded. I think he was doing it, not primarily at least, I think he was doing it primarily because she was asking questions

that any Chinese propagandist would ask. So then she says, no, I'm with an independent outlet, the Phoenix. So, and you Google that outlet, and it turns out, she lied. Actually, she is working for the Chinese government. Actually, the Chinese government owns a lot of that news operation. and it turns out Donald Trump was totally right. And he was right to ask the question. He was right in his suspicion.

And a Chinese propagandist infiltrated the White House press briefing, which, look, these things happen. All right, governments do use the press. Subversive left-wing governments use the press. I mean, you know, our own subversive left-wing politicians use the press, even here in the United States. So this kind of thing happens before. Trump was right about this.

This is something we've got to watch. And the knee-jerk reaction. to say that everything Trump does is wrong and bigoted and terrible, even for members of our own press, is a pretty egregious thing in the face of a pandemic that was caused by the Chinese government, and yet they're defending the Chinese propagandists in the briefing room. So President Trump talked about a few other things in these briefings. He mentioned yesterday that he spoke to Joe Biden, and one thing I really liked about this is Joe Biden wanted to have a phone call with Trump, and I said on the show a few days ago,

I liked how Trump handled it. He said, okay, I'll have a, I'll have a phone call. It wasn't, I can't talk to him. What can he offer me? It wasn't hostile. He was very gracious about it. He said, yeah, I'll take a phone call. Then they had the phone call.

He was asked how the phone call was. He said, yeah, it was nice. Had a nice call for about 15 minutes. That was it. Brushes it off and moves on. It keeps him so elevated. And it keeps Joe looking so small. Because we were all wondering, what, what's Joe going to offer on this phone call?

Joe can't remember his own name. What's he going to do? He's going to solve the pandemic that Trump is already doing a pretty good job of solving. And so I think Trump intuited that too. He said, okay, what do you got, Joe? Joe had nothing. So the call was absolutely nothing. Actually, we just found out what Joe's got.

Because while Trump is solving this unprecedented global pandemic, or certainly unprecedented in recent memory, I guess the Spanish flu was pretty bad too. But you're not allowed to compare this to the flu anyway. So let's call it unprecedented. Well, while President Trump is doing that, Joe Biden is quarantined at home, forgetting his own name. and putting out a podcast

because it's the only medium that he can work in, right? It's a medium where he can have his voice sped up, he can be edited. I think they've slowed down the edit since I pointed out how ridiculous it sounded, so I'll take a little bit of credit for that.

But they've slowed it down just a little bit, but they can clean him up, they can take out all the weird stuff. And yet, the best that Joe Biden can muster, this is the actual trailer put out by the Biden campaign, the best he can muster in this time of crisis. is to talk about how much he loves fig Newton cookies. Are fig Newton's your favorite snake?

Well, they're among the favorite. You know why? They're small and I can sneak him. You can buy little packs of them, and I get them on the planes when I fly back and forth. But the thing that is the thing that everybody makes fun of me, that when in doubt I have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. But I learned everybody was making fun of that,

and I found out John Kerry has the same addiction. and peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. But butter and jelly sandwich is always good. But my daughter and I enjoyed it when you were in Michigan and you shared your Fig Newton's limits. Oh, that's right. I had some, then. I remember that.

I always have a little packs of it with me. This is riveting stuff. I'm sorry. I'm just on the edge of my seat right now. I don't even know how I can go on with the show after that bombshell that Joe Biden likes, not only Fig Newton cookies, but also peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.

I didn't clip that out. That's the trailer that the Biden campaign used. That's their best stuff. I don't think that we want that guy to become the president. I don't think that we want to give that guy a lot of power. I don't think that we need to tolerate the largest political power grab in our lifetimes if the man who's going to wield that power barely knows what planet he's on. and the most important and incisive commentary he can muster is his favorite cookie.

Not a good place to be. Fortunately, President Trump is doing a good job. I hope he continues to do a good job and pushes that timeline of reopening up, not at the absolutely unacceptable 18 months, but even closer, not eight weeks, not even four weeks. We need to get this thing going again. We've seen a lot of promise on the medical front, on the modeling front, as those alarmist models have fallen apart. We need to get moving again.

It's time to do that. We can weather this storm. The president might even come out of this looking better. But a time is running out, and you don't want to be in a situation where we're stuck with President Figg-Newton. Okay, that's our show. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Nulls show.

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