The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 718 - The Morality Problem

Episode Date: March 11, 2021

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As record numbers of foreign nationals pour across our southern border, many of them unaccompanied minors and as difficulties abound amid this pandemic, problem on problem on problem, White House press secretary Jen Saki deflects any questions. She wants to talk about the past administration and specifically the morality problem that they had at the border. Thank you, Jen. You can tell immigrants from right there for a month. now, all the way back to February 10th, that now is not the time to come, but they are coming

in bigger numbers every day. So do you have a messaging problem? Well, I would say that in the last administration, we had a morality problem, and children were being pulled from the arms of their parents, and kids were being sent back on a treacherous journey, and that's not the approach of this administration. So certainly we understand that means there will be more kids who are crossing the border. We made a policy. We made a policy, decision that that was the right humane step to take. But I think it's also important for people to understand that the vast majority of people who come to our border are turned away, are sent back to their countries. What we're talking about here is unaccompanied children.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So the problem is the last administration would send a lot of people back. And this is very different, even though the Biden administration is going to send people back. And the last administration ripped children away from their parents. And this administration is ripping children away from their parents, and the reason for this is they need to vet everybody, so they've already admitted to that part. And the past administration, with the morality problem, they were putting kids in cages.

And the Biden administration, okay, sure, it's putting kids in cages. But, you know, but they're being really nice about it. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles show. Welcome back to the show. My favorite comment yesterday is from Cricket Scorzani, who says, Jen Saki has the most difficult job in America convincing everyone that the emperor has clothes. That is what's going on and it is why I feel for her.

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this is a prime example of the emperor has no close. The Biden administration, by any measure, by the standards of the right and the standards of the left, the immigration policies here are worse than the Trump administration's immigration policies, the effect on immigration worse than under the Trump administration. And Jen Saki has to say, no, but it's different. It's different. This is, I don't know if you've seen that meme on the internet of Spider-Man pointing at Spider-Man and accusing one. That is what's happening here. She's, she, she is trying to deflect from this

obvious point that the immigration problem, every problem associated with it has gotten much, much worse under Joe Biden. And the way she deflects on this is she says, well, we have better morals, better morals. Well, what is her example of having better morals? She tries to dance around these issues. But what we have seen from other Biden advisors and even from Jen Saki in the last few days is in practice, the Biden administration is doing exactly the same stuff that the Trump administration did. They're just, they're doing it worse. They're doing it less effectively, but they're doing the same policy. So the morality can't be, it can't have to do with their actions. It just has to do with their speech, just has to do with the way that they're talking about it. They're talking about how

we need to be generous to the unaccompanied minors and we have a heart and we're being compassionate. But in terms of what they're actually doing, there's no difference. This is something actually that I talk about in my upcoming book, Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds that one of the, the campaign of political correctness seeks to replace the old moral order with new speech codes, replaces moral codes for speech codes. And so the emphasis goes away from what you do to what you say. That's why they're always policing every little syllable that we say, taking focus off of what we actually do. Now, some Biden advisors are a little more honest than Jen Saki. National Security

Council official Roberta Jackson is asked at the White House, is this a crisis at the border? And she doesn't want to answer that question. She doesn't want to use the word crisis, but she does admit that the crisis is Joe Biden's fault. First of all, one of the things I think is important is we've seen surges before. Surges tend to respond to hope. And there was a significant hope for a more humane policy after four years of, you know, pent up demand. So I don't know whether I would call that a coincidence,

but I certainly think that the idea that a more humane policy would be in place may have driven people to make that decision, But perhaps more importantly, it definitely drove smugglers to express disinformation, to spread disinformation about what was now possible. So this is a, you got to give credit to her. She realizes she's trying to dance around it at the end, but you have to give credit to her for the honesty. They're saying, is this Biden's fault? She says, well, look, under Trump, they knew that the federal government,

the illegal aliens knew that the federal government was going to do everything. and its power to turn them away to make it more difficult for them to violate our country's laws and enter this country illegally. So what happens? You disincentivize the illegal border crossings. You get fewer border crossings. Under Biden, people respond to hope, in her words. So Biden comes in and he says, yeah, man, I'm giving amnesty to 11 million people, 20 million people. You bet, come on in. We're a generous country. We're going to stop building the border. wall. We're going to stop enforcing much of our immigration policy. I'm going to nominate people to these positions who are pretty weak on immigration. And guess what happens when you create that

incentive? More people are coming over. Surges happen. Every administration has these kinds of surges. But Joe Biden specifically has created incentives to encourage more people to come on over here. It's a great admission. Now, she then tries to qualify that. And she says, but also the smugglers, they've now had an opportunity to spread disinformation, right? So trying to take the onus off of Biden and put it more on these smugglers and coyotes and those sorts of people. But even in the way she explains it, she's showing that the opportunity that the smugglers had to spread the disinformation about the new immigration policies, which is, frankly, I think

just information. I don't think it's disinformation. I do think Biden wants to give a mass amnesty. But even the opportunity to spread that kind of news is coming from the Biden administration. So you have it on the record. Watch that video because it's probably going to disappear at some point in the near future when the Biden administration wises up and realizes that this woman has admitted guilt on their behalf. Joe Biden himself doesn't want to answer very many questions at all. He's now gone, I think, 50 days, something like 50 days without a press conference. This is the longest stretch for a newly inaugurated president in modern history. He's blowing his competition out of the water. And he was asked about this at just a just a quick little COVID. He was giving a statement on COVID. He was not holding a press conference. He was asked about the press conference. Pretends not to hear the question. The surplus will...

You don't need to hear. The answer is just kind of silly. But he hears these two questions being shouted out. He's kind of wandering away. Where am I supposed to go? He does this a lot after he speaks. And he goes, Mr. President, what about the surplus? And he's like still kind of wandering. And he's sort of listening. Then you're, Mr. President, when are you going to hold a press conference? He stops. He's like, ah, shoot, it's pretty loud. Well, you see, the surplus, and he just ignores the question and pretends that he did not hear it. Because he doesn't have any good answers.

One, I don't think he's capable any longer of answering these difficult questions under fire. A younger Joe Biden was a little better at this because he's such a BS artist. But older Joe Biden, I mean, you see the guy sort of puttering around the Oval Office or around these podiums. It's a very sad thing to watch. So I don't think he's up for it. But also, even if he were, even if this guy were a used car salesman in his prime, he would not be able to give serious answers to these questions and to the problems that he has created. So Joe Biden, not representing conservatives, not representing the majority of Americans who don't like what's going on at the southern border, Joe Biden also not representing very many people in his own

party. There was a great clip going around of some young Lib, some young Democrat guy, who he was on CNN, and it was being asked about the Biden administration and what he thinks of things. And all that kid wants to know is where is his stimulus money at? Young Democrats, like Ben, see a lot of promises unkept. They're put in that stimulus check on the back burner. They're put in the minimum wage hike on the back burner. And they're dropping bombs in Syria right now. And those bombs are kind of for a dude who owes me $2,000. That's a pretty good line.

The impulse behind it is fairly perverse, but the line is pretty good. And it gets to a criticism of Biden that many of us on the right have made, which is that the old left-right divide is kind of breaking down a little bit. This is why you hear the term woke on the left and red-pilled on the right is both of these terms represent a sort of waking up. out of a dreamlike state. And in this third political entity, you have what's called the Uniparty. You know, some people refer to it as kind of the Bush people and the Biden people. And they're all kind of pursuing the same foreign policy. And the joke of it is that, you know, George Bush is terrible. He's a conservative. He's a Nazi, frankly. And then when Obama and Biden pursue his exact same foreign policy, they will say, well, you know, sure, but a woman released the bombs.

Yes, but a gay, Muslim transgender person was piloting the drone. You know, we had rainbow flags and BLM stickers on all of the bombs that were being dropped on the Middle East. So you see it's very, very different. It's the same sort of excuse that Jen Saki is giving, saying, no, yeah, we're doing the same thing that Trump did, but we have good morals. You see, you're doing the same thing. What are you talking about?

It's all just sort of lipstick on the pig of this consensual. consensus between the established right and the established left, that people on the left and right, the more populist elements, are saying, wait, we don't want that anymore at all. We still disagree with the left. We still disagree with the right. But whatever this establishment thing is, we certainly don't want that either. When consensus breaks down, when stability breaks down, often it's very good to have physical assets. That's why I really like acre gold. The price of Gold has been skyrocketing lately. Now there is a way to buy gold through a company called Acre that will allow you to buy physical gold without having to shell out all that money at once.

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That is getacregold.com slash Michael. Thank you Akergold for supporting the show. The old left-right divide is breaking down a little bit. The left-right divide is not some permanent, eternal sort of way to understand politics. The left-right divide only comes about during the French Revolution, and it refers to people who were sitting on the left, and they were the radicals and the revolutionaries, and people who were sitting on the right, they were the more conservative elements. They wanted to preserve the monarchy.

They wanted to preserve hierarchy and social order. So the way that we use left and right, it can kind of change and circumstances change, and the parties change too. And there's some issues that bring this up. So there was recently a poll out from a left-leaning poll source that shows that you that most people reject gender ideology specifically with regard to girls' sports. Most people do not think that men should be able to compete in girls' track meets and win their prizes and win their scholarships.

How is this the issue that unifies people? Because if you think of all the big issues facing the country, most people, if you were just thinking about it for two seconds, you'd say, oh, girl's sports. I don't know, that's way, way down on the list. That barely matters at all. Except, it represents so much of the rot that is at the heart of our entire politics. The reason that the transgender issue has been able to kind of crack up some of the left-wing consensus and has aroused the passions of conservatives is not because we particularly care about women's sports. I don't know that I've ever watched women's sports. Maybe the Olympics are on, I'll see stuff, but very rarely. It's because it's so unjust,

and it's so obviously unjust, and it is so out of whack with reality. When you see some big hulking dude running circles around the little girls running on the track court, you just know, oh, this isn't right. Well, you and then some egghead, you know, liberal will say, well, no, but actually the way that the hormones in the body and the way that is, and the science shows, and you just say like, no, sorry, you can give me whatever egghead, ridiculous cockamamie explanation you want. I just know that's not right because you have all these very advanced social theories that you are combining with your social scientific theories to give me some explanation

of why Husky Hank over there should be allowed to compete against all those little girls, but I have two eyes and I just know it's wrong. And I noticed that the guys keep winning all the games. So it would seem that my two eyes are more reliable than your ridiculous theories. Among this, the people surveyed, 59% support a ban of, and the wording here is key, a ban of biological males from competing against biological girls in female athletics. 46% of women support a ban, so it's lower, but 34% opposed. a ban. So far greater percentage support the ban. Among Republicans, it's about three to one. Democrats, 40% support a ban, 42% oppose a ban. So Democrats, identified Democrats are the only people

who slightly more oppose the ban. Independence, though, it's overwhelming. 49% support the ban, 33% oppose. Gen Z is about evenly split on this because they've been steeped in gender theory and because they're young and don't know what they're talking about yet. Millennials, millennials who are often considered more liberal, more to the left in many ways than Gen Z, overwhelmingly support the ban, baby boomers roughly around the same percentage. Actually, they're a little less likely to support the ban than millennials. So these numbers are changing by generation, but that might change as people get older too. I also want to focus in here on the wording of this, the coverage here.

So the coverage is referring to biological males and biological girls. I understand why people do that. I know a lot of conservatives who do that too, but I think it's a bad idea. I think it is mistaken. I think it is giving in to political correctness. There is no such thing as a biological male as distinct from a spiritual male or a psychological male. There were just males. There's just dudes.

Okay. and the reason people use this term biological male is they want to be very, very precise, and they want to make these arguments from biology, and they want to say that actually it's the physicality of the person, and the physicality is somehow different than the soul or the spirit. And that is the transgender argument. When you say the phrase, biological male, you are making the transgender argument. The transgender argument is that there is a difference between one's biology and one's other identity. And the transgender people say that this other identity, this metaphysical identity, that's my true

identity. And my body has nothing to do with it. But when the right comes out and says, biological males or biological girls, they're just making the flip side to that argument. They're saying, yeah, there's a difference between your biological identity and your other kind of identity, your spiritual identity, whatever you want to call it. But your true identity is your biological identity. But the actual conservative argument is that we are not split between our soul and our body. They're not completely separate entities. We are one entity. The technical term for this is hyalomorphic beings, right? The body and the soul are fused, they're inseparable on earth. And so when you divide it up, even if you're dividing it up

to argue with the left on the transgender question, you're actually giving them their argument. This is, I hate to plug my book two times in a show, but this actually is kind of the argument here. this is what we do all the time on the right, is even when we think we're fighting against the left, when we think we're fighting against political correctness and wokeism and we cancel culture, we're just giving in. We're just giving in a sort of different way

that we're not even conscious of. We really ought to stop doing that because I do think we're in a moment of real political chaos and chaos breeds opportunity. There are things that are shifting here. If you've got the majority of people, see with their own two eyes, oh my gosh,

wow, look how crazy this is. this left-wing ideology on gender is so nuts. What else is nuts about their ideas? This is a good opportunity to grab it, but we're not going to win that by acquiescing and giving in on an issue that is overwhelmingly in our favor because it's so clear. What this comes from is, you know, this minor, relatively trivial issue of the girls' sports comes from this broader issue, which is that we no longer want to admit that some things are normal and some things are abnormal. There are norms. There are standards. Even on the right, we don't want to admit that. We want to say, well, you do you. You do whatever you want. You pursue your own appetites and

desires. You be free as though that's really what freedom is. It's not even close to freedom. It's not what the founders thought freedom was. It's not what any sophisticated people have thought freedom is in our history. But it comes down to norms. It comes down to standards. Are you allowed to say this is normal? This is not. We're not, and I'll give you a clear example of it. Dove, the soap, the company that makes Dove soap is now removing the term normal from its packaging. Because they're referring to shampoo. Do you have normal hair? Do you have some particular hair condition? Because normal is not inclusive enough. And they go further. They say, we know that removing normal alone will not fix the problem. But we believe it is an important step toward a. more inclusive definition of beauty, says Sunny Jane, the president of Unilever's beauty and personal care division, which includes Dove. It's not inclusive. If I say it's normal to have all of my appendages, right, it's normal, that's the norm, that's how it's supposed to be. Now, some people are born with deformities or they suffer amputations or they have disabilities,

and so there's something abnormal about their physique. The same thing. The same thing, is not a reason to be rude to somebody. This is not a reason to ostracize somebody from society. But likewise, it is simply insane. It's simply not true to say that it is normal. If you got 10 fingers and 10 toes, that is the norm. That's the normal thing. That's how the body is supposed to be. A lot of people have nine fingers or 11 fingers. Now, as a proportion of society, not a lot of people have that, but a lot of people in the world have that. And that is a deviation from the norm. The way that we can have medical science is we know that there is something that is normal. We know there's some way the body is supposed to behave. And then when things go awry,

that's how you know, okay, there's a problem here. Maybe we can treat it. Maybe we don't have to treat it. Maybe it's benign. But it's, right. If you don't admit that there's a standard, you can't have any of that. You can't really have medical science. You can't have any kind of scientific discussion. You can't really communicate at all because you're not referring to some objective reality. That is in part why the transgender issue is so at the top of our minds, even though as a psychological matter, it affects a very small number of people. It is spreading as a social contagion, but the people who are really born with this condition, who develop it in a way that really messes up their life, very small number of people. But the principle here is what

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Where is this attack on norms coming from? Because that's what this is about. The gender ideology, the law and order of our country. It is, it is an attack on norms. We were promised with Joe Biden. We elect him. We're going to get the new normal. We're going to a return to normalcy. Yeah, we're getting the new normal is what we're getting. It's not normal at all. It's coming from an attack on the metaphysical foundations of our civilization. There was a guy in a turtleneck who went viral on TikTok the other day because he was claiming that Jesus, Lord and Redeemer, second person of the Blessed Trinity, is a racist. Take a listen. Did you know that there's a part of the Gospel of Mark where Jesus, He used? uses a racial slur. In Mark chapter 7, there's the account of the Sera-Fanishan woman, a woman who is Syrian and Greek, both of which there were strong biases against within the Jewish community.

And she comes to ask Jesus to heal her daughter who's possessed by a demon. And what is Jesus' response? He says, it's not good for me to give the children's food, meaning the children of Israel's food, to dogs. He calls her a dog. What's amazing about this account is that the woman doesn't back down. She speaks truth to power. She confronts Jesus and says, well, you can think that about me, but even dogs deserve the crumbs

from the table. Her boldness and bravery to speak truth to power actually changes Jesus' mind. Jesus repents of his racism and extends healing to this woman's daughter. I love this story because it's a reminder that Jesus is human. He had prejudices and biases, and when confronted with it, he was willing to do his work. And this woman was willing to stand up and speak truth. Is that what happened? You know, I've read the same gospel account.

That's not exactly what happened as far as I can tell. What happens, of course, is something like what he described happens. And then Christ says it's not fit to give this to dogs. And she begs and she pleads. And she says in the gospel according to St. Matthew, yes, Lord, yet even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters table. Then Jesus answered her, O woman, great is your faith.

Be it done for you as you desire. And her daughter was healed instantly. She did not change Jesus' mind. Had this young man gone on to read the gospel according to St. John, he would have known this because John begins

very first lines by proclaiming that Christ is the divine logic of the universe. Logic itself, the word of God. So you can't change Christ's mind because he is logic. He is the reason, the fundamental reason that undergirds reality. Now, he does show to this woman and to others her faith. And he does show our brokenness and his grace. He does all of that. This wonderful,

this cause to be rejoicing. It's cause to say, yes, oh my gosh, I can't believe it. I, miserable sinner me. I will say with such gratitude that I have been redeemed through really no help of my own other than responding to God's grace with an act of faith. God comes to me like Christ was near this woman, and she responds to that in an act of faith, and he says, oh, great, great is your faith, be it done as you desire. Or you can say, God is a racist. those are the two options. The one option will save your soul and our entire civilization and built our entire civilization. The other option does really well on TikTok.

And our culture seems to be choosing the latter. There are two particular heresies here that this guy is espousing. And the reason I mention it is because it pervades our political culture. The heresies are Aryanism, which denies the. divinity of Christ. There's a very famous account from the Council of Nicaea where St. Nicholas, Santa Claus, punches the archeretic Arias in the face because he doesn't want to take it no more. And the other heresies, Pelagianism, the idea that this woman earned her salvation, that you can earn your salvation through works, which sometimes certain Protestant denominations

accuse the Catholic Church of doing, but that's just not true. The Catholic Church condemned the heresy of Pelagius many, many moons ago. These are herescent. that have infected our modern culture. We deny divinity. We deny the divinity of Christ, undergirding our civilization, and also we're really impressed with ourselves. And we think that we can save ourselves. This is the motivating principle behind communism, behind so many of our modern ideologies. And it also speaks to our pride that we have now, used to be considered the queen of all vices. Now it's elevated as such a high virtue that we have parades dedicated to pride.

Speaking of actual issues with women, I have to touch on Andrew Cuomo here. Cuomo is being accused of aggressively groping a woman. So, you know, this has been trickling out again and again. First, a woman said, he kind of looked at me wrong. Then it was said, there was some video that Cuomo gave a hot dog to a reporter. And the reporter said, no, it's totally fine. It wasn't letcherous at all. And they said, no, it's sexual harassment.

Then he kissed somebody maybe. He looked at someone the wrong way again. Now he's being accused of aggressively groping some woman. Why are these trickling out so steadily, so gradually as they are? Because I don't really take this scandal all that seriously. Seems pretty contrived to me. The real scandal, as we have been pointing out on this show from the minute these accusations started to break, the real scandal is COVID.

Democrats don't want to talk about it. they want to push this guy to the side for a reason that they won't really have to answer for, right, this sort of sexism or something like that. That is maybe going to work. You know, Cuomo's on the ropes. Though I have said, don't count this guy out from the very beginning when everyone said he's completely dead. Do not count this guy out.

This guy is a fighter. He's a survivor. He's been a political animal, his whole life. I think he's really bad for the state of New York. And I say this as having been one of his constituents, I was his. waiter one time. I guess I actually have a couple funny Andrew Cuomo stories. I don't think he's good for New York, but I do have a grudging respect for him. And I don't know that you can count him out yet. And that's why he's going to force the issue on impeachment. He's not going to resign because there's

this morality play. It goes right back to what we're talking about with Jen Saki. They're trying to take the moral high ground by talking about some contrived sex thing. where's the morality on the nursing homes? Where's the morality on the actual COVID response? Where's the morality? More broadly, the Democratic governors were the worst on COVID. Republican governors did the best on COVID. Look at Cuomo.

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You married a Brit. And yet, you turned out great. What was your secret and where did Megan Markle go wrong? Megan Markle went wrong a lot of ways. First and foremost, she is a Hollywood leftist. That's all you need to know, you know what I mean? And this story, this whole, everyone was like, you know, why did you get into this? Like, why is this get, you know, really get under your skin?

Because I married an Englishman. You know, my husband's father was in the House of Lords. And it was... That's like being a mechanic or so. I don't know. Is that like an electrician shop? Yeah, exactly, right? Okay, yeah.

And so it was definitely a learning curve for me, even when I met my husband, going to England, and there's just like different sets of rules. Their society is very traditional. And I was just, I loved it. You know, I loved stepping into someone's culture and not trying to change it. And this is the thing about the left that drives me crazy is that they just have no appreciation for tradition. They have no appreciation for history. It's why they think that everything between Los Angeles and New York needs to be, it's just

New York needs to be is backwards right right and flyover and yeah the flyover right it needs a makeover and for her to just do that to go to this country with all of their traditions and the queen of course being so significant the meaning of her just to have been sitting on the throne for that long and having decades with dignity with grace yes and she has seen the country through so much and to do what they did just cheapen that and say well it's racism this is the reason we had to leave it's racism Megan Mark. Look black to you? Did anybody look at her and say, oh, Harry's dating a black woman?

My mother, seriously, my Sicilian mother was much darker than Megan Markle. You would have no idea. She has that thing in Hollywood. They call it ethnically ambiguous. Right. You can play sort of any role. She could have played an Indian woman in films. She could have said that she could have said she was mixed race.

I would have bought that. She could have definitely said she was Italian. She has freckles. You could have just think that, you know, it's completely obscure. And yet she's like, you know, I'm less than 25% black. but I've realized that because I'm getting bad press, I can say the bad press is because I'm less than 25% black because there is this purity test. Every time they write a hit piece, they say, well, is there any black in this person? Well, that's the reason we're going to write a horrible piece about them.

And especially being me, because I have a public profile. And as you know, they have written so many bad things got me. Really nice things. It's all that time. They accused me of a mosque shooting in New Zealand. That's right. I haven't been to New Zealand. I don't even write about mosques or Muslims or anything.

But they were like, Candace did this. I woke up worldwide news. I had people in France, like in China, and people were asking for comments everywhere. And I don't think I have ever once said this bad press is because I'm black. So it's just, it's such a, there's a cowardice. And it's such an excuse.

I said it was a great headline in the Babylon B said, Megan Markle inspires millions of girls by showing that no matter how rich, beautiful, and famous you are, you too can be oppressed. Right. She's oppressed. And she's sitting across from Oprah. You know what I mean?

And she's, they've been living in a, actually, I think at some point they were at Tyler Perry's $100 million home somewhere flying on his planes. And you really want me to buy that you were chased out of the country because I guess you were less than 25% black. And then the richest part of the story is them claiming that Archie wasn't given a title because he was black. Has anyone seen a picture of Archie? And I say this seriously, if you believe that Archie suffered anti-black racism, then I'm a Nigerian prince. And I just need your credit card details. And you're going to see.

Just look at a picture, right? stranded island. You know, I'm so glad to hear this is your take on this because I have to say I was a little frustrated. I understood it, but I was frustrated with the conservative reaction to this, which is, who cares about the royal family? I stopped caring about them in 1776. To me, that argument falls flat because the royal family represents this long conservative

tradition in the United Kingdom. And to me, I think the reason the Megan Markle story has really got you excited, excited, kind of excited a lot of us, is because it's this awful sort of modern millennial idea that everything in the past is bad and wicked and racist is the word for that. And I, no matter what privileges I have, we all are so privileged, I am actually a victim and you all need to feel bad for me. And the minute that I can't do exactly what I want to do, this woman chose to marry into the royal family. It's not like it was a blind date. It's not like on the third date, Harry said, oh, you know, darling, I have something I have to tell you. I haven't told you

about my job yet. But, you know, it's not as though she thought his first name were prince, you know, like a musician, right? She knows who he is. And she chose to do this. Oh, you know, what's up? She said she never Googled him. No, no. When he got down on one knee, that's when she was like, oh, my gosh, he's a prince. And she found out it was Princess Diana's, and even that is so absurd. Michael, I Google everyone. I'll get into cars and Uber driver, and I'll be like, what's your name? Just check his background here and make. I'm just checking his background here and make sure things are okay. You're going to tell me you wanted to date

and you didn't Google, you didn't LinkedIn profile. This is what we do. And especially her, who, a big piece of story that's missing, she went to the UK with the intention of marrying up. She had a PR person who were on an entire piece. She hired a public relations firm to try to get, to start dating a football player. So that was her thing.

She was like, okay, they found a football player. She was trying to get a date with them. Right, exactly. And she landed on a prince. And, you know, Pierce Morgan, who I really can't stand. But he talks about how he reached out to her and she kept saying she wanted to get involved in the circles because it just wasn't working for her in America. It wasn't working for her in Canada.

So she was like, okay, let me try England. But she had no idea who Prince Harry or Prince William or Kate Milton. She just missed that whole thing. Right, of course. She just was there. What are the odds? What are the odds? Do you see what she described herself as?

Because we should talk about that. I didn't watch the interview, but she said she felt like the little mermaid who fell in love with a prince and lost her voice. If only. I know. If only. Just trying to think of a straight face like she did. Let me try. I felt like, you know, the little mermaid who went over and found a prince and fell in love and lost my voice. It's just as believable as you say this on air, of course.

My favorite part, is she saying these sorts of things. Occasionally, Harry would try to. Well, you notice, get out of here. Harry, stop it. Don't listen to it. Camera on me, folks. Oh, she's so unbearable. And yeah, I'm glad you brought up the fact that a lot of conservatives were so dismissive. I hate that because, you know, we so often talk about how the left is ignorant, right? To not try to understand what it is about the royals that is so significant. It is not just like, oh, I'll praise them because they're kings and queens and princesses. It really isn't about that. What they represent is history, right?

And that is what they love about them is that these people, they never issue political statements. They don't just go where the wind blows. And there is something about Americans, even the conservative Americans, that we have the strand of progressivism. because, look, our country was built on that, right? We were built on kind of tearing down traditions, and sometimes, yes, traditions need to be torn down. But where we're at today, where you have no appreciation for anything, and that is why hashtag abolish, you know,

which they're so done, they're like abolish the monarchy as if the monarchy has any power anymore. But, and actually, abolish the royal family is where we're at because they just want everything torn down, newer, faster, and they want the world to look like whatever Hollywood singers and actresses think that it ought to look like. Well, this was it. It's sort of, this woman seemed that she wanted to play a Disney princess more than she wanted to be an actual princess. And how true is that of so much of our society?

You know, Edmund Burke, the great conservative philosopher, his big distinction between the American Revolution and the French Revolution was that the American Revolution was kind of conservative. It didn't destroy everything, right, whereas the French Revolution really did destroy everything. And so there was always this sense in America that we won't. We want to be the real thing. There is a kind of tradition here, and we didn't want to become this really shallow, abstracted culture that unfortunately it seems like we're becoming. And you hear so often from conservatives, we need to take back the culture, we need to fight

back in the culture. Well, in order to do that, we're going to need to get really serious and we're not, we're going to have to start saying like, no, don't do that. That is a bad thing. You know, we need to defend an older set of standards. Right. I think too often we meet people in the middle. And it's such an easy game.

Wait, there's actually an expression that you use to talk about when it, what is the Overton theory, right? New Overton window. Yeah, exactly. That's exactly what the left is doing. It's brilliant, right? They say something so extreme. Like, here we are. And they say something so extreme that they're like, men can give birth.

Yeah. I'm like, no, they can. No, they can't. But eventually we say, okay, please don't say that. We'll meet you halfway. And now we're urging closer to where they are. how we do this. We always say, look, men can't give birth, right, men are not women.

But then we start edging in this way. We'll start saying, so-and-so is a biological male. Right, and it's like, no, it's a man. He's just a man. He's just a man. He's not like a psychological woman, but a, it's just one thing. Right. Because we start to be conciliatory, guess what? You look up 10 years later and you're way far and the line. That's what's happened. That's literally what's

happened, especially in this last decade, is that we just keep meeting them halfway. But the halfway is also, it's always moving towards their ridiculously far left point. And I think that there needs to be more, people say to me, O'Kanish, you're so far right. I'm like, actually, I'm just right, right. I'm actually almost in the middle. Yes. Because you guys have gone so crazy.

Ten years ago, you would have been considered a centrist, a normal person, right. Like, you know, when we accepted that men and women were men and women, and now you're actually being called a bigot. I mean, yesterday, International Women's Day, the ACLU tweets about saying, you know, trans women are women. On International Women's Day, you said men are women. The patriarchy strikes back. The trans woman, it means man, right? This is a different word for man. So you just tweeted out in order to celebrate women, let me tell you how much men can be women. You know, though, you're being modest here. And this is actually something I'm very excited for about your show, Candace, right,

which is launching, is that you, right, you're just saying sort of normal things. I don't, and I don't think anything you're saying is extreme. But most people do not have the Cajonese to talking about men and women. Most people don't have the guts to do it. And you, I don't know what it is, because we've been friends for years. I remember you back in the old timey days on YouTube. And you, more than just about anybody, have been able to withstand this onslaught from the left and throw it back in their face and not let them cancel you. And it's really, I don't know how you've done it. I just hope that I show people that there's, There's no consequence, you know, for telling the truth.

And you just, just say it. Say it again. Say it again. Say it again. They can only cancel you so many times. Once they went to, once I survived, like, being accused of a mosque shooting in New Zealand, I was like, okay, well, where do we go from? What else are you going to accuse me out here, right?

That's great point. And so I think that I've just bounced back and I've been unapologetic, which is the most important thing. Don't say sorry. Don't say sorry because once you start saying sorry to the left, you will never stop saying sorry to the left, right? Because it's not about them being an apology. They want pure capitulation.

They want to make sure you capitulate everything they say. What they're seeking actually is their own kind of monarchy, right? Like they're seeking to rule over you, your opinions, your ideas. And they're established church. Exactly. That is their established church. They seek for you to be their peasants. And the second you say sorry, you become that.

So I just say, don't say sorry. Speaking of the church, I mean, this is something I've really struggled with. I think you're completely right. But look, as a Christian, I want to apologize when I feel I've done something wrong. I have no problem doing that. To, oh, miserable sinner that I am, I really don't mind it. Except I know that's not really what it is. That's not, when you apologize to the left, it's not, first of all, they're not seeking that in good faith.

It's beating a dog into submission. Yes, that is what it is. It's sort of, it's unfortunate because I'd love to be in a society where I'd say, oh, yeah, maybe I shouldn't have said that. Sorry. Yeah, exactly. And, you know, it's funny because I did an interview the other day and they said to me, sort of in preparation for the show, like, is there anything that you look back?

on in the past that you're sorry for, like things that you've tweeted and things of that nature. And I said, no. And I said, because I want to give permission to people that are following me to know that you're allowed to change your mind. Remember this thing where we used to grow up? Like, you know, a long time ago, I used to think Barbies were the coolest thing. And then all day, society should be run by us playing Barbies in the room. That was Candace at four years old.

Am I allowed to evolve from that position without apologizing for my past? Well, I love it. You know, people throw this at you a lot. They'll say, you used to be left wing, but now you're conservative. Ha ha, ha, I got you. Yeah, I got a couple of brain cells. I opened a book, you know what I mean? I opened a book and I'm like, it's just so ridiculous.

And what is so alarming about that sort of a culture, like, forget us, like we're adults, we're old, we have kids now, right? Yeah, we're old, man. We're old people now. I'm trying to get fat, too. I'm already old, but I want to be old and fat. Think about kids. How hard it is to be a kid today when you are being told that if you make a mistake, you're done, you're over, you're canceled. You know, you say one wrong thing.

When I was a kid, we didn't have Twitter or Facebook, Instagram. So I could just be a crappy human being for one day and say horrible things. And the next day, be like, oh, you know, that didn't feel too good. I'm going to be someone different today. And I was allowed to grow. That's what growing up is. You learn because you do things wrong. Even toddlers, they're violent.

Toddlers are throwing things down, you know? They are. They think through things and they just, they choose violence every day, toddlers, right? Even my cute little newborn, you know, he'll throw punches at it. Same, yeah, same thing. And it's like, now Villeppe is like you are exactly who you are when you are two is when you are four. Candace, when Candice, when, Candice, three years ago in politics, I've pretty much grown up politically, publicly, you know, has to, you know, make apologies or make amends. No, if I said it then,

I meant it then. But if I transformed my opinion, here's why. This is what it looks like to grow up. That's right. That's right. That's right. You know, if I had social media when I was 11 or 12, canceled. Could you, yeah, could you imagine? And the show right now. Is there forever. But I love it because it takes a lot of gumption to be able to say, yeah, oh, I thought this thing a few years ago. Yeah. And now, guess what? I've matured, I've educated myself. Maybe that's something we can all do as a culture as well. You know, one great way people can do that. Tune in to Candace on the Yellow Wire. I can't wait. It's going to be fabulous. I'm so excited for the show. I'll be issuing tons of non-apologies when people are offended. I will the next day. I mean, even seeing that

tail in between the legs, copy and paste an apology that so many people do. Like, you know, like, they say one thing and then it's suddenly like the next day on their show, they're like, you know, I want to apologize for some things that I said that made perfect sense, but I hear you that you're offended, so therefore we're all growing. And it was just like, she's just like, she's. Shut up. Just say, I'm sorry, you were offended. Yeah. And maybe don't watch my show. There have been a few times where there's been a lot of pressure to give the apology.

And I think there's an old Sicilian expression. Just a little, just a flick underneath your chin. That's what I think about it. My dear, I can't wait for the show to start. Everybody's got to tune in and watch it. Candace on the Daily Wire. I will be eagerly watching it just from right across the way. And I'll see you around the office water cooler.

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