The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 774 - The Experts Were Wrong About Everything

Episode Date: May 28, 2021

New studies and reports suggest that just about everything the experts told us about COVID was wrong, the co-founder of BLM resigns in disgrace, and an anti-cop radio host kills a cop. Learn more ab...out your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 New studies are in. New science has emerged on the coronavirus. Here's the latest. The virus very likely started in the Wuhan Institute of Virology, in the lab in China. China may have unleashed the virus intentionally, may not have been an accident. People who have the virus very likely don't need the vaccine because they are very likely immune for life. And the masks very likely did absolutely nothing.
Starting point is 00:00:30 In other words, your uneducated conservative uncle, who doesn't have very many degrees, but he's got a lot of common sense, was right about everything, very likely. And the genius experts in big tech, in the media, in the scientific establishment, with lots of fancy degrees and very serious lab coats, were very likely wrong about everything. But hey, at least we just let them shut down the world. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show. Welcome back to the show. Coming to you live from a hotel room in South Dakota,
Starting point is 00:01:11 so bear with us if there are some technical issues. My favorite comment from yesterday is from archetype Goto, who says, he's responding, I guess, to Joe Biden's ATF nominee, Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. It says, what is a particularly lethal gun, phrase used by this nominee? Are there guns designed to tickle people? No, but you've hit on the point. When the left criticizes guns for being low,
Starting point is 00:01:35 lethal, they're criticizing guns for doing what guns are supposed to do. But they don't think that guns should exist at all. They certainly don't think we should have them. They say, if we're going to have guns, they better not be lethal. Well, then what's the point of having the gun? It doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Somebody who uses that kind of term as a criticism probably should not keep his job. And if you need to replace somebody, if you need to hire the best people, go check out ZipRecruiter. If you're a business owner, what's your most important investment? Is it the printer? Is it the fax machine? Do people still? have fax machines? No, it's the people, of course. It's hiring. And when you're hiring,
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Starting point is 00:03:15 I need to go through this evidence right now before the fact checkers not only take me off of the internet, but also bust down my door and arrest my family. Because, you know, I mean, we just made four really big claims that contradict basically everything that these geniuses have told us for the past year. the most important aspects of this virus, and yet, turns out, we were right the whole time, and the experts were wrong. First one, this claim that the virus did not start in a lab. You remember this? Now, a year ago, more than a year ago now on this show, and on verdict with Ted Cruz, our other show, we pointed out that it seemed like a little too much of a coincidence
Starting point is 00:03:56 that the coronavirus that was associated with bats that then became very transmissible to humans just so happened to be discovered in this wet market that was 400 yards away from the Wuhan Institute of Virology where they study bat coronavirus. Isn't that a little, that's a little weird, isn't it? So we said it seems pretty clear to me that the Institute had something to do with the virus. If you made this claim on Facebook, it would be taken down. You could have penalties on your account for this. This was a debunked conspiracy theory, all the really smart, fancy fact-checking websites, shut this down. No way, you kook, you crazy. Oh, wait a second. Now Joe Biden is ordering an intelligence review of this debunked possibility that it originated in the lab. That's very
Starting point is 00:04:46 strange that Joe Biden is doing this because Mike Pompeo, the former Secretary of State under Trump, already had this investigation going. The Trump, the Biden State Department, rather, shut down that investigation, but then the evidence became so undeniable. You had researchers in the Wuhan Institute who were becoming infected with this months before we were told the virus broke out into the public. These reports leaked. So now all of a sudden Biden's got to do an about-face and now Facebook's got to unbanned the undefunked claim that started in the lab. Number two, and this one is really controversial. About a year ago, more than a year ago, we said, you know, China is an evil country. They got an evil government and they hide lots of things and we know
Starting point is 00:05:28 that they work on biological weapons. Maybe this wasn't an accident. And if you made that claim, oh my goodness gracious, you were silenced, you were muzzled. Now, I'm not saying that we know for certain that the virus was released intentionally by the government. I'm not even saying it's likely. I'm just saying it's possible. And it's not just me saying it anymore. It is the White House through the new press.
Starting point is 00:05:52 She's not the new press secretary, but she's the deputy press secretary who held the briefing yesterday. She was asked, now that you're changing your story on everything regarding this virus, are you still standing by the claim that we know for certain that China did not release this intentionally. Here's her answer. Another question on COVID, the language that you all use specifically mentioned an accident. Does that mean that you've ruled out, or the IC has ruled out, that it was deliberate or not an accident? We haven't ruled out anything yet. Again, we're going to go through this, you know, this redoubling down of another, of a 90-day review, and we'll have more to share.
Starting point is 00:06:28 We haven't ruled out anything yet. That's not true. You guys ruled this out a year ago, more than a year ago. The left, they were out of office mercifully at that time, but through the media, through big tech, through the scientific experts, they totally ruled that out a year ago. So now you're saying we're not, well, we don't want to rule anything out. That's a pretty big change in your story. What would lead you to say that? This woman, I don't have her name. She's filling in for Jen Saki, whose name I only fairly recently learned.
Starting point is 00:06:57 But this woman is a black woman. And the way this was being reported in the press yesterday, I kid you not, they said, so-and-so, again, her name escapes me, so-and-so made history yesterday as the second woman to host a White House press briefing. I thought, gosh, you guys know less about history than you do about science. It's not history when you're the second person to do something. You know, I remember that day four years ago, 2017, when I made history as the third Daily Wire podcast host. It wasn't that? It was so historic. What a historic day. slight digression. So here we go. There's the first two claims. Virus likely started in the lab. China may have unleashed it intentionally. Third claim, oh, now we're going to get in trouble. The people who had the virus very likely do not need the vaccine because people would have antibodies.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Now, we're told we have no idea how long the vaccine will be effective. People might need booster shots. And I've told you, I've told you from day one that I'm in no rush to get this vaccine. Why? Well, I strongly suspect I had the virus already. And I'm in a relatively statistically young healthy age group, and so there's no real risk from the virus for me. There are for other groups, but not really for people like me. Doesn't mean I can't get it. Doesn't even mean I can't die from it. But just looking at the numbers, things are looking in my favor. New study out, even a mild case of COVID-19 can create antibodies that could give you a lifetime of protection from the virus. Quote, months after recovering from mild cases of COVID-19, people still have
Starting point is 00:08:26 immune cells in their body pumping out antibodies against the virus. that causes COVID-19, according to researchers at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis, which is a very good school. This is now being reported in study finds. Such cells could persist for a lifetime, churning out antibodies all the while. Studies findings were published Monday in the journal Nature. So these are serious studies from serious universities being published in a well-respected journal. But you've got to get the vaccine. Even if you're young and healthy, even if you've had the virus. Well, not according to the science, not according to the study. Just get it. Get the jab. Get the vaccine.
Starting point is 00:09:03 I don't think so. The vaccine, there's nothing going on with the vaccine. No risk whatsoever. Well, actually, we'll get into some reports later coming out of Connecticut that we mentioned briefly on the show yesterday. Let's suggest, well, maybe, you know, in rare cases, there could be a problem. And the argument for young people getting it seems to be falling apart by the day. And then, oh, man, this is a really bad one. Oh, this one, if I'm still on YouTube, somehow this one's going to get me taken down. I have been saying from the beginning, I'm actually saying what Dr. Fauci said from the beginning,
Starting point is 00:09:36 namely that the masks as a medical device do virtually nothing to stop a pandemic. Not saying they do nothing when surgeons wear them in certain cases. I'm saying that when a bunch of people wearing filthy cloth on their face doesn't do anything to stop an epidemic. I've been told by the big tech sensors, I cannot say that. Well, what if I'm reading a study? What if I'm reading the first ecological study of state mask mandates? I'm looking at their data and I'm noticing that they find that widespread mask wearing likely did not slow the spread of COVID-19. This is a study conducted by the University of Louisville using data from the centers for disease control and prevention, right? so this is the CDC, found that 80% of U.S. states mandated masks during the COVID-19 pandemic,
Starting point is 00:10:27 and while, quote, mandates induced greater mask compliance, right, the mandates did get people to wear the mask more, they did not predict lower growth rates when community spread was low or high. So, yes, the mask mandates are quite good at getting people to wear the masks, unless you're a marginally conservative like me and you, and then you wear it below your nose, and you do all sorts of sometimes you don't wear it at all. But the mask mandates didn't do very much to slow the spread because the masks don't do anything, according to this study, to slow the spread. The study found, quote, mask mandates and use are not associated with lower SARS-COVID-19 spread among U.S. states. Our findings do not support the hypothesis that COVID transmission rates
Starting point is 00:11:15 decrease with greater public mask use, according to the study. Now, what do the math? The masks something. According to these researchers, masks, quote, may promote social cohesion as rallying symbols during a pandemic, but risk compensation can also occur. In other words, the masks have one use. They are effective at doing one thing acting as a political symbol, but they have no medical use or scientific use in the public during a pandemic. In other words, I hate to put too fine a point on this. You know how much I hate to say it. It kills me to say this sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:12:00 I was right about everything. I was right. And so were you. So were you. Because I know that you guys were almost to a person on the correct side of this issue. And the experts and the geniuses and the squishy conunders. and the squishy conservatives and the follow the science people, were dead wrong about everything.
Starting point is 00:12:20 And by the way, now that everyone's changing their tune, now that Facebook's changing its tune, now that Biden's changing its tune, you're going to hear, well, you know, at the time, it made a lot of sense to follow the science. No, it didn't. It never did. They were always wrong, and we were always right. And do you know what's going to happen tomorrow
Starting point is 00:12:33 when the scientific establishment or Joe Biden or the media or Big Tech? I'm repeating myself. They're all the same blob. When they tomorrow make some other stupid claim without any basis in reality. And when we contradict that claim tomorrow, when your conservative uncle who doesn't have a bunch of fancy degrees, you know what's going to happen? They're still going to call us a bunch of idiots and they're still going to go listen to Dr. Fauci. They're not going to learn a damn thing, but you should. We were right. They were wrong. We should take that lesson into the
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Starting point is 00:14:32 The science is changing. The data are changing. And it turns out that the science and the data now are starting to support what anybody with Twitter. brain cells to rub together and a modicum of common sense knew a year ago on the lockdowns, on the masks, on the Wuhan Institute of Virology, and the Chinese communists, at least covering this up, and even, according to the Biden administration, even possibly unleashing this virus intentionally. And yet, do you think Biden's going to change course? Do you think in terms of the day-to-day
Starting point is 00:15:07 nitty gritty of the COVID lockdowns and the COVID agenda. Do you think they're going to change course? No. No, actually. There's a study out that suggests that people who've had the virus just don't need the vaccine. They've got immunity. They've got the antibodies. No, they're not going to change course. Joe Biden just went on the YouTube channel of Manny Mua. Can't say he's one of the channels I subscribe to. He's some eccentric leftist YouTuber. He went on there with Dr. Fauci. And they made the point, still in their view, that it is not just important that you get the shot, no matter how old you are, no matter your risk group. It's not just preferable. It is your obligation to get the vaccine. There's a lot of rumors that are going around that young and healthy people
Starting point is 00:15:52 don't need to get the vaccine. You should save it for people who are a little bit older. What do you guys think about that? Both of your guys' thoughts. They are not exempt from getting serious illness. So you want to protect the youngsters, be they adolescents, be their young children. You to protect them. There's no doubt about it. But then there's also the responsibility that you have of not being part of spreading the infection throughout the community. So you almost want to take what I call a societal responsibility. Protecting children also protect society. I think it's an obligation, an obligation to help your fellow man, an obligation to make sure that even if it's only a small percentage possibility that you could be a carrier of
Starting point is 00:16:34 and spread the disease, that you have an obligation? You have an obligation, they say. There's a point about this that is going to be missed if you're only listening to what they're saying, if you only listened to the interview with Manny Mua. Namely, Biden and Fauci are framed in the shot on video as priests. They are. You can see it. Go watch the video later.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Dr. Fauci is sitting in front of a table that looks like an altar in front of lamps that look like crucifixes. They do. And there are no mistakes in Hollywood. Okay? There are no, very, very few. When people set up a shot, they are doing it to convey a message to you. And when you look at Fauci in the close-up with the blurry background behind him,
Starting point is 00:17:20 the two lamps, I suspect were selected for a reason, look like crucifixes on an altar. Because Dr. Fauci is the high priest of progressivism. Joe Biden, too. They're not making a scientific point here. They're pretty open about that. They say, look, you know, the science and the risk groups and the demographic groups and this. They're making a political and a social. It's your ethical obligation. It's your social obligation. Joe Biden, it's social. It's moral. It's religious. These guys are our self-appointed religious leaders in the religion of secular progressivism.
Starting point is 00:18:00 And again, you know how much I hate to tell you, I told you so. gave a speech about this months ago. That is what this is really coming down to. So, is it your obligation? Do you have to do it? Do you, let's say you're a healthy young person, 22 years old, young virile man, do you need to go get the vaccine? Well, there might be some risk. I know we're not allowed to say that there's risk. I know we're going to get taken off YouTube for this. But I'm just reading the headlines yesterday. I said, you know, I'm hearing some reports that there are rare cases, granted, some issues with this vaccine. I've heard anecdotes from friends of mine who got the vaccine and had some heart issues, had to go see the doctor. The doctors don't
Starting point is 00:18:45 want to say that it's because of the vaccine, but they have cautioned these people, I'm just speaking anecdotally, to maybe not get the second dose. They're not willing to say it's the vaccine, but maybe watch out, maybe don't get that second dose. Well, some people have actually come out and said maybe this is because of the vaccine. In Connecticut, relatively small state, 18 cases of heart inflammation after COVID-19 vaccination. Here's the headline. Connecticut has seen 18 cases of heart inflammation after COVID-19 vaccination, but doctors say teens and young adults should still get the shot. Why? Why should they? Because of the ethical and moral and religious responsibility? Well, first of all, I don't look to Dr.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Fauci, a liar. a guy who has repeatedly lied to the public. I don't look to him for my moral and religious advice. What's going on? You've seen multiple people, a lot of men, but some women too, who are contracting inflammation of the heart, myocarditis. Well, Michael, how many zillions of people have been vaccinated? You know, come on, 18 cases, that's nothing. Yeah, sure. I mean, 18 cases are what we're hearing about right now. Michael, we don't know that it's linked to the vaccine. That's true. It's just the CDC's looking into it. So, you know, there's some evidence, I think, that it might have something to do with the vaccine. But furthermore, let's say it's 18 people in the whole... It's not. It's more than that, but let's say it's 18 people in the whole country.
Starting point is 00:20:11 If there is any risk whatsoever that I'm going to contract this rare complication, inflammation of the heart in otherwise healthy young people, then why would I do it? Particularly if I've already had the virus, particularly if I have the antibodies, which the other studies show give you... may very likely give you immunity for life. Why would I do it? Because Fauci says so. Well, what's Fauci's argument? Fouchy's argument is he said so. That's his whole argument. He says, it's social, it's ethical. It's, we, no. How about we use our prudence? We're not allowed to use our prudence. We're told prudence, it's not a virtue. It's actually, it's a vice. It's prejudice. It's an irrational prejudice. Just do with the experts, even if the experts contradict themselves every other day. Remember, your kooky uncle with a good hunch was right about everything. And Dr. Fauci,
Starting point is 00:21:07 who's got all the degrees and all the experts in the science, was wrong about everything. Let that inform your decision-making moving forward. You know, thankfully, some people are taking political power back. When Dr. Fauci takes all that political power and when the left establishment wants to give it to him, it's part of the progressive project. take the political power away from the people, give it to the bureaucrats and the technocrats. Woodrow Wilson spelled it out more than 100 years ago. While that is happening right now, some Republicans are taking the power back. I love this story out of Idaho.
Starting point is 00:21:46 The lieutenant governor of Idaho just signed an executive order banning mask mandates. Not too far from me here in South Dakota, I think. I actually don't really know. I'm not an expert on geography, but it's probably somewhat close, is it? I don't know. Anyway, well, I'll look at a map later on. How does the lieutenant governor sign an executive order? She's not the governor. Well, because the governor was out of town for a little bit. This lieutenant governor was temporarily raised up to governor to deal with issues in the state. When this happens, 99 times out of 100 or more, the lieutenant governor doesn't really do anything,
Starting point is 00:22:24 just there in case anyone needs him or her. But this lieutenant governor said, oh, I'm governor. Awesome. I'm going to start signing some executive orders. So she signs this order, says, quote, today as acting governor of the state of Idaho, I signed an executive order to protect the rights and liberties and businesses by prohibiting the state and its political subdivisions, including public schools, from imposing mask mandates in our state. Love that. Janice McGeachin, am I, I'm probably mispronouncing that. So then the governor comes back and they say, did you guys plan this? and the governor says, no, I didn't know she was going to do this. But it puts him in an impossible situation, really backs him into a corner. What's he going to do? Is he going to rescind the executive order?
Starting point is 00:23:07 Then he looks like a squish. Then he looks like a lib. No. By the way, this woman, Janice, has said that she's going to run for governor next go-around, whether he runs or not. So he knows that he's got a political threat from her. I love it. But Michael, that's not orderly. That's not, that's not respectable. That's, come on. We've got to be, we've got to be, we've got to be, we've to lose with dignity. Nope, that's not what this woman's doing. I love it. I absolutely love it. Great, great stuff. We need to take power this way, which he did totally legal, totally smart, totally effective. Highly doubt he's going to rescind that mask mandate. Now, he's trying to get on the right side of it. He said, we never had, or that anti-mask mandate. He said, we never had mask mandates
Starting point is 00:23:50 in Idaho. Yeah, good, okay, well, now you're not going to. Right, unless you rescind the order. we're getting a lot of good news on the political front, as a matter of fact. The leader of Black Lives Matter, I'm sorry, that's not, the leader of BLM, which used to stand for Black Lives Matter. Now it stands for by-large mansions. You'll remember Patrice Cullors, it's co-founder of BLM. She's been in some hot water in recent years for a video that leaked in which she said, we are trained Marxists. That's what we are trained in. So she's in, that didn't get her into too much trouble because her supporters are totally fine with that. She got into trouble because she spent a bunch of money buying up nice mansions in Los Angeles and elsewhere.
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Starting point is 00:26:33 Oh, it's not a big deal. This is totally justified. Patrice Culler, she said, I haven't taken money directly from BLM, which is, I think, it's basically true, but it's a little too clever by half. She might not have taken money out of the debit card, you know, from the BLM account. but she has a bunch of little shell companies, and she uses them as an extortion artist to local governments, to companies to get money from them through the cause of BLM,
Starting point is 00:27:00 and she's become a very wealthy woman doing it. So now she's announced, just yesterday, that she is stepping down from the organization, which comes as she and the organization have faced widespread criticism over not just the violent riots. She's happy about those. She's facing criticism for the corruption, for the extortion here. Very glad. We need to hold these people's feet to the fire. It's not
Starting point is 00:27:22 cancel culture. I guess she's getting canceled. If that's what cancel culture is, sign me up. I'm all for it. We need to wield political power effectively. We need to wield executive orders effectively. I know there's this old idea. It's not that old. I mean, this is something that cropped up, I guess, in the last 20 years of conservatism. And it's really atrophied us. It's pushed by the squishes. You know the guys I'm talking about. about. The guys who suggest that, you know, drag queen story hour is a blessing of liberty. You know, sometimes these guys are called the French Divideons. It's like the guys in Laco, you know, the French Davidians. There are these guys who don't want to wield political power, okay? Older conservatives
Starting point is 00:28:07 understood this. I was just speaking at Yaff last night about how William F. Buckley Jr., the urbane, very respectable founder of the post-war conservative movement cheered on McCarthyism for a long, long time. And even when he started to criticize McCarthy, he still broadly defended the McCarthyist project. It's good. We do need to do that. We need to do it in Idaho. We need to do it on the mask mandate. We need to do it by booting radicals out of the public square, whether that's the leaders of the BLM terror organization, or whether that is—and I don't think I'm being hyperbolic when I say that. Michael, not all the protests were violent. I'm not saying all the protests were violent. But the organization is explicitly calling for the overthrow of society, right? The overthrow of the
Starting point is 00:28:52 cisgender Western family structure, for goodness sakes. They are, I think, tacitly endorsing this political violence. And in some cases, it's explicit when Maxine Waters calls for riots or when Kamala Harris bails the BLM rioters out of jail, the violent people out of jail. That is something we need to end. Got to get it. When Nicole Hannah-Jones, is not offered a job at a university. Good. Good stuff. Love that. Speaking of BLM, there's a story on BLM, I want to take from a slightly different angle than we usually do. This is a radio host who is a radio host in New York. She had gone on the air one day, probably many days, and said, F the police, F the police, typical sort of thing you would hear from BLM or from the radical left. And then hours later, she kills a police officer in her car. Take a listen.
Starting point is 00:29:43 I will see you guys next Monday at 6 p.m. back here on Face of Reality Radio on the Instagram and on the Facebook. And until then, the police. Until then, that's like her sign off, right? And then hours later, this 32-year-old woman, Jessica Beauvais, hit a police officer, a highway officer in her Volkswagen. He was rewritten. He was rewritten. redirecting traffic, and she killed him. Why did she kill him? Did she target him because he was a cop? No, I don't think there's evidence of that. But she was hammered. She was drunk and high. In the studio, she drank a lot. She admitted to this, to drinking a bunch, to smoking a bunch of pot. And then, totally impaired, she kills this guy. She killed Anastasios Sacco's 43 father of a six-year-old daughter and a three-year-old son.
Starting point is 00:30:38 He was redirecting traffic after a separate fatal car accident, and she hit and killed him. Did you know what her reaction was? this direct quote. Why did my first accident have to be a cop? Not that I wanted it to be someone else, but F, I've been driving since I was 16 and haven't hit as much as a pothole. Fairly callous and selfish response. But put all that aside for a sec. She was probably still drunk and high at the time. I don't see any evidence that this woman was aiming at a cop. I mean, she's saying, gosh, why did I do this? It's going to ruin her life. The reason I bring it up is not to say this is a terrible woman. I mean, she did terrible things. If you get super drunk and high and then get behind the wheel, you are endangering people. But I mention it to bring up what she said on the show. F the
Starting point is 00:31:26 police. That's probably the last thing that people are going to remember, probably the first thing and the last thing people are going to remember about this woman. And I wonder if she's got any conscience in her whatsoever, how that's going to go through her head. She's going to remember that she killed this guy, father of young kids, because of her irresponsibility, and the last thing that she said was F the police. Not good stuff, guys. Not good stuff. You do not want to have these sorts of regrets, from a purely selfish standpoint, even. You do not want to live with this kind of stuff on your conscience, whether it's acting irresponsibly and then hurting somebody, or whether it's even just saying a cruel, vicious thing. And then, God forbid, you know, somebody dies,
Starting point is 00:32:10 someone goes away, and that's the last thing that you're going to remember. You don't want to live like that. I joke about it sometimes when I get fan mail from the radical left, get a fair bit of it. I got one yesterday on Instagram from some gal, and it was this sort of vile stream of insults that really mean things. And I responded, and I said, I don't respond to any messages, but I did see it. It just popped up, and I said, imagine saying this to a perfect stranger. Imagine what it takes to go. Perfect stranger. And you go and you write these vile things. And she had a good response. She said, I don't need to imagine it. I said, that was a softball, you know, but tusha.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Tusha, it was a funny answer. But the reason that I respond, kind of, I just laugh these things off, is because I don't want the last thing that I've said to somebody to be something vile. Not even just for them, not even just because that's the wrong thing to do. That's going to be on my conscience. That will sally me. That will degrade me. So I don't want to do it. these things sometimes, you'll lose your temper, whatever, it gets the best of you. But one wants
Starting point is 00:33:15 to avoid it, not just for the moral order, but because it's in your own interest, too. You need to fight back against these sorts of radicals. You can fight back without degrading yourself. Here's a great way that someone is doing it right now. A Daily Caller reporter is suing Lori Lightfoot, the mayor of Chicago. Daily Caller News Foundation and Judicial Watch are suing Chicago Mayor at Lori Lightfoot for discrimination because she refused an interview to her reporter, not to her reporter, to a daily caller reporter, Thomas Cotonacci. Kottnachi, you'll note, sounds a little bit like my people, you know, the Italian people. But Lori Lightfoot said she's only going to grant interviews to Brown and Black reporters. And I know the Italians are pretty swarthy.
Starting point is 00:33:58 All right, we've occupied a sort of interesting racial space throughout history. But he's not black enough for her, so he was denied the report. This is discrimination. He should sue her. This is good. I like this. I like that. But it's a threat. It's a, outrageous, do he shouldn't be? No, it's good. Good to exercise our rights this way. Lori Lightfoot should be canceled. That's a very good thing. We cannot tolerate this kind of stuff. This rank bigotry. Well, let's just go along together. Let's just only talk about tax cuts and regulatory reform. I had a bunch of squishes blow up my mentions on Twitter to this effect. misinterpreting many comments I've made, obtusely, you know, in a way that might be sort of disingenuous,
Starting point is 00:34:44 as if to say that I don't think we should cut taxes, as if to say I don't think we should reform regulations. Yeah, we should do that. That's all well and good. I like a good tax cut much as the next guy. But that's not the only thing we should be doing. And I think a lot of so-called conservatives, but they're in the squish camp. They focus only on those issues because they want to be liked, you know. They'll, you know, I'm just a quirky conservative. I just want to cut regulations. or what, that's totally cool. But on any controversial issue, on any issue that really threatens the liberal regime,
Starting point is 00:35:12 they go silent or they go impotent, or in some cases they support the left outright. They vote for Democrats in crucial elections, that sort of thing. That's not going to help us fight back, okay? They're the ones who are going to criticize your crazy uncle and say, oh, follow the science. Come on. I'm a conservative, but I'm not one of those conservatives. Well, guess what?
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Starting point is 00:37:04 Controlling Words, Controllment. Available now for pre-order. You can get it everywhere. Thank you to those who pre-ordered. Can we drop the gun in gun violence? And instead call it either just violence or violence using a firearm. much like dropping biological from biological man to refer to a man, thank you. Perhaps, I mean, I do think there is some utility in knowing.
Starting point is 00:37:22 There is a difference between shooting somebody and stabbing somebody and punching someone in the head using a club. Here's one difference. More people die every year from clubs and bats and that sort of thing than from any sort of rifle, including the AR-15. But I think your point is well taken. Why are we only concerned with a gun violence? Why are we not concerned with bat violence, knife violence?
Starting point is 00:37:44 in countries that ban guns, what happens? You just see a spike in knife violence. So yeah, I think that's a good point. The reason we need to drop biological from biological mail is because it suggests that there's some other kind of male. There are non-biological males. No, there's not. It's just dudes. Okay, it's dudes and chicks. That's what there is. But there are different types of violence, and I think we should focus on it. And even on the gun issue, we should not take the left's bait. They always want to say, look, we got to talk about not just violence, but gun violence, not just gun violence, but the scariest gun, the AR-15. The AR-15 is involved in statistically just about no killings per year. Very, very few.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Pistols are evolved in a lot of killings. But the AR-15s are the big scary weapon that the mean white male Republicans use, and pistols are what gangsters in Chicago use. So that undermines the left's narrative on guns and race and justice, so they don't want to talk about it. But I think we actually could talk about it. I think that distinction is worth having. Question up from Adriano.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Adriano, what a good name. Hello, my name is Adriano. I know it's written right there. I'm looking for some advice here from a fellow Italian Catholic. About 10 years ago, my then-girlfriend, now wife, got raped by a guy and had an abortion to deal with the trauma. Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry to hear that. We were tight on money going through a rough time
Starting point is 00:39:05 and were honestly just miserable after what happened. Yeah, of course it would be. We have since gone through therapy, gone through confession, gotten married and had some kids. We'd become very emotional over the fact that this year would be the baby's 10th year alive. And we threw that away for nothing. Wow.
Starting point is 00:39:22 I've been finding myself having nightmares and crying, which is not normal. On top of this, my kids found out about the incident from another family member. You have advice, because honestly, anything would be good right now. Here's my advice. St. Paul was a murderer. I had a guy who was pretty mobbed up.
Starting point is 00:39:42 He was a bit of a gangster in New York. Now he's a total born-again Christian goes to mass every single day. He said that to me once. We were talking about his story, and he said, you know, St. Paul was a murderer. Whoa, heavy stuff, man. St. Paul was a murderer, and he helped to cede the church, one of the key figures in doing that. I'm glad I've never gone through what you've gone through. I hope that I wouldn't have, you know, done it.
Starting point is 00:40:15 But certainly the temptation would have been there. And at other periods of my life, I certainly would have done it. If I, during my atheist years, oh, I think I probably would have. I would have come to regret it just like you're regretting it. But yeah, probably. I think a lot of people do. I think a lot of people experience this regret. And you're seeing it right now because you're, can you imagine how crazy it is?
Starting point is 00:40:34 You got basically the worst thing ever happens to your wife and to you also. and you do this thing, and then 10 years later, you're regretting that your wife didn't have her rapist's child. Why? Because you recognize, you can see it. It's undeniable that that baby is a baby. But if you asked anybody what you did, is that understandable? Everybody would say, it's understandable, of course.
Starting point is 00:41:00 But now you've come to regret that, too. We all have regrets, pal. Everybody's got a past. Some things are worse than others. no doubt about it. But you've confessed. You've received absolution, I take it. You've got to be willing to accept that, too. You do have, I mean, it is, it's not just a feeling, right? And in our faith, it's not just like, well, I think it's kind of a subjective feeling. It's a fact, all right? This is an incarnational faith with real sacraments that really do confer forgiveness and really do confer
Starting point is 00:41:31 graces. And so you have received that. And, you know, there are temporal effects of sin, and you're dealing with some of these. But not all the saints started well, but they all ended well. It's a line from St. John Vianney. And some of them started off really bad. Some of them did very bad things and things they came to regret. But where are you now and where are you going? I will pray for you and your wife and the daughter and that you'll accept absolution and forgiveness and go on and have a good life. From Brian, I came out to my family about my sexuality recently. I revealed to them that I'm a gender rigid, half bisexual.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Half bisexual. Gender, man, what a great line. My pronouns are, I'm not such a towering, rabid, malignant narcissistic. that I expect the rules of the English language to change to accommodate me and my unique identity. They don't seem receptive to my new identity. Do you think they're being unreasonable things? Yes, they are. They're being very intolerant and very close-minded. And I say this. I guess I'll come out right now on the show too. I say this as a gender-rigid, half- bisexual myself. It gets better. It gets better. Okay, you are seen. You are heard. And your pronouns, that's a beautiful pronoun. I love that. Not being a
Starting point is 00:42:56 malignant narcissist. Wow. It's a great problem. My best to you and your family. I hope they can come around. From Hannah. Hey Michael. Just heard about the people calling out to people on the streets asking if they identify themselves as Jewish or not. You've seen this in Los Angeles, in New York. People, pro-Palestinian lunatics will run up and say, are you Jewish? I'll beat the hell at them. As a fellow Catholic, I'm wondering if we would be denying Christ if someone like that called out for Christians to identify themselves and we just ignore them. My gut says to be silent and walk on. But where is the line between apostasy, denial of Christ, and just keeping your nose to the ground? Well, yeah, I would not recommend denying Christ. I think it's a bad idea. St. Peter did it
Starting point is 00:43:32 three times, and he came to regret that and weep bitterly. But then, you know, he turned it around and made amends. If some guy is screaming at you on the street, you do not owe that person a response, especially if you're walking with your family or something like that. If you're walking alone, if you're a guy, I mean, then maybe you'd be a little more confrontational. However, if somebody comes up to you, and really directly asks this question, you've got to give an answer. You know, if you really find yourself in a situation where you would be denying Christ tacitly or explicitly, I would not deny it.
Starting point is 00:44:09 There was that scene years ago of the Cops, the Coptic Christians who were on the beach and the Islamic terrorists were there and they had knives at their necks and they said, deny Christ. And they said, we love Yeshua. We believe in Yeshua. You know, they would not deny Christ, and they slit their throats. Now those guys are in heaven.
Starting point is 00:44:30 So we are called to that. You know, the seeds of the church are the blood of the martyrs, and it's never easy for Christians. Sometimes it's a little tougher than other times. So while we don't owe people an answer, as things become more direct, you need to defend your faith, or you won't. If you deny the Lord, then he will deny you.
Starting point is 00:44:52 I think he says that somewhere in a book. from Hannah. Hey Michael, I'm a college student in the United Kingdom. I think that's the equivalent to high school junior year. That's true. I know it's very difficult, you Brits, with all your words that mean different things in the American. I was studying in the library this morning when a class came in and the teacher started telling them very matter-of-factly that George Floyd's death was a racially motivated murder and that America is a racist country. I have one friend who shares the same conservative values as me when she goes to a different college, so sometimes I feel quite alone. Quite is actually another word that, In America can mean vary, but in Britain can mean a little bit. Okay, anyway, enough pedantic language talk. You know where you can get some non-pedantic, very gripping language talk? In my upcoming book, Speechless, Control, where is controlling? Mine's available now, by the way, for pre-order.
Starting point is 00:45:40 There it is. There's that bell. Everyone else seems to have very far-left views. Do you think I should stand up for my beliefs more, or just keep my head down and get through college? Thanks for all you do. P.S. just, oh, she'd give me a plug, too. Just pre-ordered, speechless.
Starting point is 00:45:52 So, there is, I guess that's a separate one. I guess it's a similar answer to the previous question, this on politics. You don't need to, and it may not be even prudent, to go flaunting your politics constantly all the time, being very flamboyant about it, wearing the hat, the MAGA hat at the water cooler or something. But, likewise, I wouldn't hide who you are, tacitly or explicitly. I wouldn't lie. And you do need to start practicing integrity now.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Integrity is one of these things that you've got to work on. You know, it's like virtue and vice. Their habits, the more you do them, the more you'll do them, the easier they become. So I wouldn't hide it. And you'll get lower grades and you'll perhaps be ostracized from your classroom. But I wouldn't be prudent. We're called to be wise as serpents and innocent as doves. So I'm not saying you should be wise as a dove and innocent as a serpent, but you should, when it comes down to it,
Starting point is 00:46:46 you should have integrity and stand up for what you believe. Next question from John. Hold the phone. George Will thinks that representatives are scared of their voters. Am I missing something? Isn't that better than the voters being scared of the government? Let me know what you think. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:47:01 George Will said on one of the leftist shows, George Will, a former Republican, former conservative. Now, I think he's a libertarian party member or an independent. George Will said, the GOP is scared of its voters and they've lost all their credibility and all their integrity. Well, yeah, it's good to be. A little scared of your voters. You should still exercise your judgment, by the way.
Starting point is 00:47:21 In representative government, we don't elect people so that they just do whatever we tell them to do all the time. We are electing their judgment. I mean, this is an insight that Edmund Burke made. But we should make sure that our elected officials know who sent them there. And if they consistently just diss us and ignore what we want, and then we should boot them out. That's a very good thing. Good point. You make a far better point than George Will did on that show.
Starting point is 00:47:45 From Suzanne. I'm a new mother to an eight-month-old girl with a second on the way. Wow, congratulations. That's great. I waited until I was 36 to have my first child, and that is a regret in itself. But my real trouble is that I got into a whirlwind romance with a co-worker and decided that trying to have a baby was what I wanted because I was getting older and feeling lonely. I think this happens to a lot of women.
Starting point is 00:48:04 I got pregnant. We married five months later. We decided to try for another quickly so our children can have one another. He's a good man. He's a hard worker. He loves me and the family. But I don't love him. I realize now we don't have very much in common, and his family is relatively awful. Relatively. That's a good. That's a pun. I was good. Did you do that intentionally? I think love has to be, oh, sorry, I am determined to never be a divorcee and to provide for our children with a stable two-parent home. I think love has to be the foundation and not something you strive for after rash decision-making. Any advice on how I should proceed and how to make my marriage work. Thank you so much. I don't want to downplay true love. I got to marry the one. Got to marry sweet little Alisa, who just is the sort of transcendent love of my life and has been for a long time. And even when we were split. it up for some years in there.
Starting point is 00:48:53 She was still there. She was still kind of floating in the ether. And so then we got together and that's a happy ending to the story. And not everybody gets that. It sounds like you didn't get that. Romantic love and even more than romantic love, this kind of deeper feeling of kinship, the idea that this is your soulmate,
Starting point is 00:49:10 the other side of your person. Not everybody gets that. Probably most marriages in history have not been based on that. And there have been many great marriages within those things. Marriage is a fact. As when we were answering a question from Adriano earlier about how can he forgive himself, he did this terrible thing, he's received absolution. But, you know, and when he made the decision, it was a very complex decision anyway in the sense that I think
Starting point is 00:49:37 any of us could understand making that decision, even if we know it's objectively wrong, any of us would feel a pull to do it. And now God's forgiven him, but he can't forgive himself, and now what do you do? Our faith is one that is sacramental. It's real. To use a technical term where we partake of a realist epistemology. It's not just heady stuff floating in the sky and it's not just my feelings and my feelings. It's reality here. You are married. I think it's admirable. Look, you had some kids. That's great. That's a wonderful thing to get out of it. You say you never want to be a divorcee? Good. You shouldn't be a divorcee. You say he's a good guy, but you just don't. Sparks not there. Well, that's fine. Maybe the spark
Starting point is 00:50:19 doesn't need to be there. All of our loves, even our romantic love, is ultimately just a faint shadow of our true love, which is oriented toward God. That is where our highest love is, and we can sublimate all of these sorts of things. So, yeah, you might, by the way, over time, you will, you can, and I suspect will love this guy that you just decided to get knocked up and, you know, have a kid. I think you can and will love him more if you work on that. That will happen. You know, when you see really happily married couples who've been married for 50, 60 years, They will say, almost all of them, they will say, you know, I love my wife today more than I loved her even on the day we were married. And that's true.
Starting point is 00:50:57 I feel that way with my wife, you know. She probably doesn't feel that way about me. She thinks, oh, this guy, this mess, this bum, he doesn't do the dishes. But I certainly feel that way. And you can feel that way, I think, no matter how your marriage began. But the marriage is a fact, okay? And you've got a good thing going, even if, you know, he doesn't, you know, pull the romantic poetry out of you all the time, okay? and you can work on that because this is a real world and you're in a real sacrament.
Starting point is 00:51:23 You've got a real family and you should be grateful about that. I suspect you are. That's our show. I'm Michael Knowles. It's The Michael Knowles Show. See you on Monday. If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to subscribe. And if you want to help spread the word, please give us a five-star review and tell your friends to subscribe. We're available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Also, be sure to check out the other Daily Wire podcasts, including the Ben Shapiro show,
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