The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 817 - The Blob Declares Us The Enemy of Their State
Episode Date: July 30, 2021The White House threatens another lockdown, a NYT reporter labels Trump supporters “enemies of the state,” and Nancy Pelosi orders the Capitol Hill police to arrest almost anyone without a mask. M...y new book ’Speechless: Controlling Words, Controlling Minds,’ is now available wherever books are sold. Grab your copy today here: https://utm.io/udtMJ Subscribe to Morning Wire, Daily Wire’s new morning news podcast, and get the facts first on the news you need to know: https://utm.io/udyIF Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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We have officially passed the 500th day of 15 days to slow the spread.
And public health officials are marking the occasion by reinstituting mask orders all around
the country.
And not to be outdone, the White House celebrated this milestone by spread slowing once more
and threatening to lock down the entire country again.
President Biden says that we are not returning to lockdowns, shutdowns, and school closures.
But he also once said that we didn't have to wear masks anymore once we were vaccinated.
So why should Americans trust him now?
Well, because we listen to the scientists.
We listen to the expert.
This is a public health situation.
This is not about politics at all.
This is about saving lives.
And this is what the president is all about.
He wants to make sure that we are saving lives.
If you look at Peter the last six months, that's what he's done every day.
And you see that in the numbers.
Now we're at a point where we have to double down and make it very very.
very, very clear to people that we can't, we can't let the pandemic win. We have to continue to
fight. So if you're listening to the science, if scientists come to you at some point down the line
and say it is our opinion that there should be shutdowns and there should be school closures,
you would do that. Well, we listen to, like I said, we listen to the CDC and the expert and
their guidance. Our, you know, the CDC is a body that is very well respected. And we follow, again,
we follow their guidance. Why should we trust the president? Well, because he listens to the scientists.
Why should we trust them? They've gotten everything wrong too. Meanwhile, the Atlantic
magazine calls my pillow owner, Mike Lindell, a threat to democracy. A New York Times reporter
labels Trump supporters, enemies of the state. And Nancy Pelosi orders Capitol Hill police to arrest
the unmask. I'm Michael Knowles. It's the Michael Knowles show. Welcome back to the show.
My favorite comment yesterday is from B-07341, who says, to be fair,
I think January 6th, 2021 was the worst day in American history.
Joe Biden was confirmed as president on that day.
You know, good point.
I guess I could have a January 6th commission.
I could get behind that if the purpose of the commission is to investigate how on earth we got to this point.
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politics than when politicians say, look, this isn't political. When the White House spokesman
talking about various mandates and orders from the president of the United States says that those
mandates and orders are not political because he got the advice for them from other politicians
who work in public health and public in politics mean the same thing. There's synonyms.
It's such a, it's so preposterous. I guess it works. I guess that's why politicians continue to
use this rhetorical device, but sophisticated people like you would never do this.
Whatever a politician does, whenever a politician does a thing that pertains to the public and policy,
it is by definition political. By the way, when private companies do things,
that affect the public broadly. That is, by definition, political. And what Joe Biden is doing
is political and it's very dishonest. And it tarnishes whatever credibility he had left because
not so long ago, Joe Biden said unequivocally, if you've taken the shot, then you do not need
to wear a mask. If you've been fully vaccinated, you no longer need to wear a mask. Let me repeat.
if you are fully vaccinated, you no longer need to wear a mask.
But now you do. Now you do. And by the way, Biden and the White House has addressed this.
And what they have said is that was true then. If you've been vaccinated, you don't need to wear a mask.
But it's not true now because the words and the judgment of the president do not matter.
All that matters, this is according to them. All that matters is what.
what unelected technocrats in lab coats have to say. And whatever their whims and caprices
suggest on any given day, that will be the public policy of the United States. Why do we have
a president? I have no idea. I don't really know. He's not doing anything. If truly his public
policy just amounts to listen to the scientists, specific scientists, and do whatever they say,
then we have no need for a president. And I think that is kind of the point of the Biden presidency.
is he is simply a vessel for the unelected liberal bureaucracy.
Biden's going further, though.
It's not just, yeah, you should probably mask up now.
He also wants to impel people to get the vaccine.
And he knows that he probably can't do that at the federal level.
He knows he probably can't pass a law or an executive order that says everyone's got to get the vaccine.
So what he's doing instead is using the so-called private companies that aren't really private at all.
and he is using them as proxies to coerce people to take the experimental drug.
Why not push for vaccine mandates in states, private companies, schools,
do you want to see those entities pass vaccine mandates?
Well, I'd like to see them continue to move in that direction.
And that's why I pointed out.
I asked the Justice Department to determine whether that is they're able to do that legally.
And they can.
local communities can do that, local businesses can do that.
It's still a question whether the federal government can mandate the whole country.
I don't know that yet.
So that's still a question, by the way, according to Job.
I thought it would be a pretty simple answer that the federal government can't mandate the whole country take an experimental drug.
But he says that's an open question.
We're working on that.
But in the meantime, what we're going to do is use so-called private entities as proxies to force you all to do it anyway.
This gets to President Trump's lawsuit against Facebook.
and the other big tech companies.
He's suing them on First Amendment grounds.
Now, usually you're only allowed to claim a First Amendment violation,
or it would only carry credibility,
if you're making that claim against the government.
Because private companies have no responsibility
to protect your First Amendment rights.
But what Trump is alleging is that these so-called private companies
are just an extension of the government.
And he makes a good case.
And every time Joe Biden opens his own,
mouth, he seems to make a good case. Meanwhile, China is spreading disinformation on COVID. So what China's saying,
they've sent out a bunch of tweets from their propagandists, and they've said, the U.S. is responsible for the world.
How has the U.S. poisoned the world? By the way, they're like missing. It says, how has U.S.
poisoned the world? U.S. is responsible to the world. And like all this, you think they educate all of
their students at American universities. You'd think they'd have a slightly better grasp on the English line.
language, and they don't really. But this is obviously a piece of propaganda to deflect blame from
the Wuhan Institute of Virology, where the virus escaped, to blame the United States or something.
It's worth pointing out that under the lead of Dr. Fauci, the United States actually funded
the Wuhan laboratory. So I guess we bear some responsibility in that regard. But sure enough,
this is misinformation. Now, when I think about COVID misinformation, though, and we're all putting
our ire on China. I think, hmm, would we ever spread misinformation? Would the U.S. government ever?
Because you just saw the Biden clip about the masks and you remember seeing the Dr. Fauci clip about
the masks and you saw the government denying that it escaped from the Wuhan lab and then later
they said that it did and then it's so, or that it very likely did. And it seems like the United
States has spread a bit of misinformation as well. It seems that the bureaucrats and the politicians
in charge in this country have spread a fair bit of.
of COVID misinformation as well. As a matter of fact, I think there are three groups right now
that are being called misinformers on COVID. There's the Chinese government, there's the U.S.
government, and then there are just random conservatives. Those are the three groups.
Only one of those groups gets kicked off of Twitter for spreading quote-unquote misinformation.
And ironically, it's the group that tends to be most correct, where the misinformation turns
just to be information. China goes out and says that the United States developed this and released
it. Obviously, a lie, they get to stay on Twitter. The U.S. government says, don't wear masks. They don't
work. Do wear masks. They do work. Didn't escape from the lab. Maybe it did escape from the lab.
Vaccines have no side effects. Maybe the vaccine. Back and forth and back in with, they don't get kicked
off of Twitter. Conservatives say, huh, kind of looks like that, that Wuhan virus. I bet that might
have something to do with the lab. Misleading, misinformation. I think they're just a lot of
might be some side effects involving like myocarditis and periocarditis and nerve system disorders
from the vaccine. Misinformation, censored, suspended for 12 hours. That's a pretty strange state of
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The liberal establishment is really ratcheting up the hysteria, is really ratcheting up the
sense of crisis and is really ratcheting up attacks on political dissidents in the United States.
And I'm not just talking about a handful of kooky dissidents on the fringe.
I'm talking about half the country.
New York Times reporter Katie Benner has just labeled Trump supporters.
not some Trump supporters writ large, half the country, at least.
Enemies of the state.
Quote, today's January 6th select committee underscores the America's current, the Americas.
New York Times people aren't hiring their best anymore.
The America's current essential dilemma, national security dilemma.
Work to combat legitimate national security threats now entails calling upon
politicians, supporters, enemies of the state.
Katie Benner, by the way, covers for the times the Justice Department.
As Americans, we believe that state power should not be used to work against a political
figure or a political party.
But, and there it is, there's that but that's going to negate what she just said.
But what happens if a politician seems to threaten the state, if the politician continues to do so
out of office, and his entire party supports the threat?
Well, what happens is you're going to, if you can disingenuously, but nevertheless, if you can label
your political opponents, half the country, enemies of the state, then you can more easily justify
weaponizing the full force of the federal government against those people, including the NSA,
which has a foreign service mission, and yet was just caught spying on Tucker Carlson,
a domestic, very, very popular, I guess you'd call him political dissident because he opposes
the liberal regime. But as mainstream as they get, he's got the highest rated show on cable news.
And yet, the NSA, which is only supposed to be looking at threats outside of the country,
spying on him. The FBI going after Donald Trump's campaign in 2016, a Democratic Party
using the FBI as its enforcement arm to spy on the political opponents.
That's pretty scary.
The jailing of political dissonance.
I mean, even if you look at the way that the January 6th people are being treated compared to BLM,
the January 6th people relatively wrought very little damage, didn't kill people.
The only person who died in political violence on that day was one of the Trump supporters.
And yet they get the book thrown at them and they're going to rot in prison.
Meanwhile, BLM burns down federal courthouses and kills a bunch of people and they get off the hook.
broadly get off the hook. That is because the BLM people are considered good, useful foot soldiers
for the liberal establishment, and the Trump supporters are enemies of the state. And we treat
enemies of the state differently than we would treat foot soldiers for the establishment.
Speaking of enemies of the state, you know that insufferable cop, Officer Dunn, the one who said
he was called all sorts of terrible names on the basis of race. He had no evidence of this
whatsoever. Cameras all over the place that day, zillions of hours of video. But no, we never
found any evidence of the dubious events he's describing. So Officer Dunn has something to say about
enemies of the state. He says that the people at the Capitol, the people who stole Pelosi's
lectern, were much, much worse than the BLM rioters who burn the country down.
First Amendment protest is what this country is about. The First Amendment, the Constitution,
that's the democracy of it. But once you start
attacking people, attacking things, then that's wrong.
And you know what?
That goes to the riots this summer.
They were wrong.
If you peacefully protest, then sure.
But the riots and the violence and the damage this summer, they were wrong.
They were wrong.
And that's the exact same thing that happened at the Capitol.
But their goal was to overthrow democracy, which is a bigger threat to America.
Wow.
Big of you to say that killing dozens of people and burning down businesses and homes and courthouses,
big of you to say that that's wrong. Hey, look, I'm a reasonable guy, okay? I think killing dozens of people is wrong.
Thanks, thanks, man. Okay, I'm glad we can at least agree on that. But that's the exact same thing that happened at the Capitol. No, it's not. No, it's not. They're not even close.
burning down city after city after city, killing person after person after person, burning down
police station after police station after federal courthouse, stealing property after property after
property and threatening to do it again with the explicit support of members of the Democrat Congress
and Senate and the sitting vice president now, that is not the same as making a mess of Nancy Pelosi's desk.
It's not. It's not even close. They are completely incomparable events. And yet, we're now being,
not only is he saying they're the same, he's actually then later saying what happened at the
capital is worse because they want to overthrow democracy. Burning down a courthouse, that's
federal courthouse, that's not overthrowing democracy. Burning down the symbol of the justice
system, that's not overthrowing democracy, but jumping up and down with a horn hat on, that is,
pathetic, pathetic. So what are we going to do about it? We're just going to complain, right? That's what
we're going to do. I think the only people who are doing their job in this entire fiasco,
and I hate toot my own horn, but it's those of us on the communicator side of it. It's those of us
in the conservative media. And I'm not saying, look, I think it'd be much better of legislators
were actually taking action or judges were taking action or people with real hard political
power were taking action. But all we can do, if you have a microphone, all you can do is call
attention to this stuff that the mainstream media won't talk about. All you can do is call attention
to not only what's happening in the news, but what that relates to from a philosophical perspective,
from an historical perspective, you can provide context, you can lay out the plan of what to do,
but if you're not sitting in Congress, if you're not sitting in the Senate, if you're not a
legislator, if you're not in the bureaucracy, if you're not a judge, then you don't have that
hard political power to do something. So do something. Do something, guys. Thankfully,
Some congressmen are finally doing something very important here.
Representatives Jim Jordan and Kathy McMorris Rogers are now introducing legislation.
Finally, finally, thank you guys for doing this when I don't know why other Republicans hadn't done this yet.
To amend Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, you know this is the provision of the CDA,
which would give legal protections, liability protections to big,
tech companies and allows them to act as publishers, but then claim that they're not publishers,
and basically just allows them to censor you and political dissidents. And the president of the United
States, for that matter, who ironically is a kind of political dissident when the entire political
order is run by the liberal establishment. The communications decency act, which, ironically,
was gutted by the Supreme Court and the central provision, the anti-indecency provisions. The whole point of the CDA
was to control pornography on the internet
in the early days of the internet.
And that central provision was gutted
by libs on the Supreme Court.
But this Section 230 has remained.
And so this is great stuff.
You know, Section 230 stipulates that,
quote, no provider or user of an interactive computer service
shall be treated as the publisher or speaker
of any information provided by another information content provider.
This would,
this law or this bill that's being proposed
by Jordan and Rogers would exempt certain gigantic big tech companies from this sort of protection.
It's a good step in the right direction because the entire establishment right now is trying to
criminalize conservative thought. Exhibit A, the Atlantic. The Atlantic, Ann Applebaum,
who's well-known political writer, she has a piece out called,
the My Pillow guy really could destroy democracy.
So Mike Lindell, you know, My Pillow, a company that has supported this show and many, many other conservative shows, he could destroy democracy.
He's a very nice guy, patriotic guy, very inspiring story.
He could apparently destroy democracy.
If democracy can be destroyed by a pillow salesman,
then democracy was probably not all that sturdy in the first place.
Okay?
And I just want to reiterate here.
When Ann Applebaum or Nancy Pelosi or Kamala Harris or anybody else refer to our democracy,
they are not referring to democracy.
None of these people like democracy.
All of these people are progressives.
The point of progressivism is to make the country less democratic.
to take political power away from the people to upend the constitutional order and give it to bureaucrats.
Biden and Biden spokesmen said it clearly. We follow the science. We don't follow the judgment and prudence of the people.
We don't follow the constitution in many places. We follow whatever the egghead bureaucrats tell us.
They don't like democracy. As Angelo Codavilla says very well, when they refer to our democracy, they are actually referring to all.
Their oligarchy.
Okay.
So please spare me the crocodile tears over our democracy.
When you're trying, you're casting a perfectly patriotic inspiring American citizen who all he's ever done is sell pillows.
You're casting him as an enemy of the people.
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Not to be outdone in the hyperbolic rhetoric and overreaction against the unwashed masses.
Now they're called the unvaccinated or the unmasked.
Nancy Pelosi has ordered the Capitol Hill police to arrest visitors and staff members of committees and United States Congress.
who are not wearing masks in the Capitol. There are two houses, right? There are two chambers.
There's the House of Representatives and the Senate. Both are controlled by the Democrats right now.
In the Democrat-controlled Senate, you do not need to wear a mask. There's no mask mandate. You won't be
fine. It's cool. So a Democratic senator can just walk around without a mask on. It's fine.
Or a Republican senator or anyone else. If you're in the House of Representatives, you'll be fined $500
every time that you do not wear a mask if you're a member of Congress. And if you're a staff
member or a visitor, you will be arrested. I'm glad at least that Pelosi has stopped short of
arresting House members. Might look a little bit like an insurrection, wouldn't you say? Might
look a little bit like a coup. Huh, how ironic. So she's stopped short of that for now. But this, of course,
has nothing to do with science, and this has nothing to do with stopping the spread of coronavirus.
virus, on the very day that Nancy Pelosi decided to start enforcing this measure of arresting people,
for goodness sakes, if they're not wearing masks in the Capitol.
Nancy Pelosi was spotted and photographed at a crowded event, not wearing a mask.
The event was outside, but it was very crowded.
It was very, very crowded.
And by the way, Pelosi's ordering the masks to be worn all over the Capitol ground.
So it's not even that it's only in certain rooms or anything like that.
And she violated her own order or her own principle the same day.
But it doesn't matter.
No one really believes that this matters in terms of public health.
These people just want to impose their will.
It's politically advantageous.
They took a lot of power from people and they're not going to give it back.
As some of us warned last year, when there were some conservatives who went a little squishy,
I got to tell you.
they went a little squishy on the masks and they said, oh, it's okay, it's a reasonable measure and it'll
help us get back to normal. It won't. It is the symbol of the power that the left took from you.
We need to go on offense. Here's a great new bill that was introduced. It's probably not going to go
anywhere, but it's a great new bill. This is what I'm talking about when I say offense. Ronald Reagan had a
great line. He said, when you're explaining, you're losing. You might have every perfect explanation in the
world because you did something or because you said something, but it doesn't matter. If you're the one on
defense explaining, then you're losing. We need to put the left on defense. So Representative Michael
Walts from Florida has introduced legislation meant to promote financial transparency within the
Biden and Harris immediate families because of Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden, who is this influence
peddling criminal who has traded on his father's name and sold his father's influence to the
highest bidder around the world to Ukraine, to China. He tried to sell it to China. He's made a lot,
a lot of money on this, merely selling his name in industries that he has absolutely no expertise
in whatsoever. So now Hunter Biden is a painter. He calls himself a professional painter. His work
is actually not, by the standards of modern art, so I'm damning with faint praise. It's not
terrible, but it's not good. It looks, it's like something a third grader could do. So Hunter Biden is now a
painter, and he's selling his very bad paintings for half a million dollars a pop.
Hmm. Do you think that the anonymous buyers of these paintings, do you think they just really have
an appreciation for the little doodles that Hunter's doing? Or do you think maybe they're trying
to buy influence, which is the real industry that Hunter Biden's worked in his entire life?
So Representative Waltz introduced the preventing anonymous income by Nassizant.
necessitating transparency of executive relatives act. Or, because you know, Washington loves an
acronym, the Painter Act. Really great stuff. It's a bit harsh, actually. It says that these
relatives need to report the source and type of earned income exceeding $1,000, and the source and type
of any honoraria received more than $200. And so it's actually the source and type of income from
rents and dividends and interest in capital gains over $200. So that's, you know, that's a very low
threshold for earnings. But it doesn't matter. The law is not going to go through. I just love,
I love the name, I love the angle. I love the point of it. I actually wish a similar law would
go through. And I like that we're on offense. I like that we're calling attention to,
hold on a second. Why are you still talking about Trump? Look at what the Bidens are doing.
Look at their corruption. This is how I feel about the January 6th Commission is why are we
talking about January 6th when when BLM burned the country down with the encouragement of leftists
and Democrats for for six to eight months. Speaking of going on offense, really, really great stuff
from professors Robbie George and John Finnis. These are two conservative scholars, professors.
They've filed an amicus brief in this Dobbs case. You know, this is the case I've mentioned a few
times on the show. It's the one that seeks to overturn Roe v. Wade and to overturn Plan
parenthood B. Casey, and they say there's no constitutional right to an abortion, which obviously
there isn't. So they've filed a brief for the court to give them context, arguing, not just
that, you know, if, if Roe v. Wade is overturned, that then the question goes back to the states,
and the states can decide if they want to have abortion or not have abortion, right? That's been
the kind of conservative talking point for the last few decades. They're going further.
Robbie George and John Finnis are going further and they're saying,
actually, the 14th Amendment, when it was ratified,
was understood to consider unborn children as persons.
And if unborn children are persons,
then they have the right not to be killed without due process.
So it goes further.
It's not just the abortion question goes back to the states.
It goes further to say that abortion is illegal.
It's obviously unjust.
It's obviously immoral.
and it's prohibited by the 14th Amendment.
I love this kind of offense.
I love this kind of aggression.
Really, really good stuff from these professors.
Is it going to have an effect on the case?
I don't know.
I don't think it's going to give us this result in the case,
but I think what conservatives need to start doing
is arguing past the sale.
Don't just ask for what you want.
Don't just demand what you want.
Go further.
Go way, way further so that when you start to reconcile,
when you start to compromise,
then you can go back to what you really want.
Donald Trump was really good at this.
The Democrats are really good at this.
and Republicans need to get much better at this as well.
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First question from Marisa, who says,
I recently heard that yoga is actually bad and demonic.
I have never heard this before and enjoy yoga on the occasion for both exercise and relaxation.
In a world with constant stimulation, I find it nice to relax and clear your thoughts as you do in yoga.
There is the old saying, an idle mind is the devil's playground, and is that why yoga is bad.
Why does something that brings me relaxation?
Why is it detrimental to my soul?
sincerely. Namase, whatever Nol says is right is probably right. Wow, great, great sign off.
Yes, it is. I was trying to figure out if I could sugarcoat it or no, it's just it is bad and it
almost certainly is demonic and you shouldn't do it. Okay. Why? Because yoga is not just
stretching. Stretching is fine. Meditating actually is fine. Uh,
clearing your thoughts and having stillness, prayer is certainly fine. But yoga is not just that.
Yoga is a religious ritual. It is a Hindu liturgy. That's where it comes from. And Hinduism
has all sorts of different gods that it worships, that are not the god of Christianity.
And it has all sorts of spiritual aspects. And it's got the chanting and the humming and the
focusing. And it falls into a number of theological errors, pretty dangerous ones.
One of them, for instance, would be monism, the idea that everything is just one, right?
It's all the universe, man, and we're part of the universe, and we're part of the creation, and God is kind of part.
It's all just the same thing, man.
You know, we're all just going back into that same thing.
That is a very popular idea in New Age.
It's popular in non-theistic religions, but it's not Christian.
The Christian idea is that, and the Jewish idea and the Muslim idea, is that there is God,
and then God, the creator, makes the creation, and we are part of creation.
So we have a close relationship to God and we are made in the image of God, but we are not all just one man.
There actually are distinct things. It also falls into the heresy of Gnosticism that if you just, you know, if you just sort of think certain things and you know certain truths that and you just kind of meditate on that, that you'll be able to transcend the world and that's very important.
You know, I understand we're getting into sort of subtle distinctions here, but that is not not a Christian idea.
this gnaustic idea that's associated with with yoga.
Same thing with this sort of technical idea of yoga that if you put your body in certain
positions, this is going to unlock certain spiritual fruits.
This technical aspect is also not exactly Christian.
But even just the basic fact that it is a liturgy from another religion that is rather
different and contradictory toward your religion is why you shouldn't do it.
If you want to stretch and relax, I recommend Pilates and meditation.
and prayer. From Sarah,
Hey Michael, I started dating a guy
almost a year ago and things had been going
really well. We're extremely compatible.
I think we both helped each other improve his people.
I love him to death and I wouldn't trade him for anything.
There's only one problem.
He's an atheist and I'm a Christian.
I've been able to ignore this problem thus far
as people have started mentioning marriage.
He seems to be nowhere near converting
and it's become abundantly clear that I need to address this.
Do you think it's acceptable for me to continue with this relationship?
If not, how do I approach him about this?
Thanks for the help sincerely facing the atheist factor, trademark.
Tough problem that you're in.
It depends on your place in life.
When sweet little Elise and I started dating, you know, back in the Carter administration,
back when we were like two years old, we dated in high school.
We've known each other since we were 10 or 11 years old.
So back in those days, we had very different political views, very different religious views.
I told you I was an atheist for a decade or so.
And so we've grown together.
You either grow together or you grow apart.
And if you're, you know, 16 years old or something,
and you've got these different views, I wouldn't worry so much about it because you're still
educating yourself, you're still changing, you're evolving, you're going to grow together,
very likely. If you're 30 and you're really looking seriously at marriage right now and you guys
just have these really set views that are not likely to change all that much, then that becomes
a real problem, in no small part because theoretically your husband will be the head of household,
right? And so how do you have a marriage where the husband has this just, just,
completely false view of the world and where he, if he assumes a leadership role, is going to
lead your family on the most important matters and these spiritual matters in the wrong direction.
And if he doesn't assume a leadership role, that's a problem too. So I think it is going to come
to a head. It's a tough, tough issue for you. But he's got to get it in order. And he's going to,
he's going to have to make some hard decisions, I think. Or you're going to give up your faith.
But you will grow together or you will grow apart. And if he's not going to come see the fullness of
truth, then you're in for a bad, you're in for a bad conclusion either way. From Anders,
Anders, greetings and salutations to he who knows much. I've been watching your show for a little
over a year now and have been intrigued by your faith. A lot of religious questions today. There always are.
I grew up as a member of a Christian household, but in recent years have fallen away and lost interest
in the church mainly because of the lack of leadership there. That being said,
my question is this, in your mind, is there a difference between Protestantism and Catholicism?
If so, are the two irreconcilable? I find the tenets of Catholicism attractive, but was raised
to think of it as a kind of false doctrine. Sincerely, he who knows little, but seeks much.
There's a great book on this point for people who, you know, I was not raised Protestant,
so I didn't have those problems. Though I, on my way back from atheism, I spent a lot of time
reading Protestants and really appreciating. I mean, some Protestants were actually very important
in my reversion to the faith. But ultimately, I did not remain in the Protestant world. I
I reverted to Catholicism. I do think that's the true faith. And, you know, I obviously I think
there's a distinction and I've made my choice. There's a good book called Rome's Sweet Home,
which is a book about people who are either fundamentalist especially or just Protestant more broadly
and answering some issues about Catholicism. It has been said that there are not a hundred people
in this country who hate the Catholic Church, but there are millions of people who hate what they
believe to be the Catholic Church. They just are, you know, have been taught wrong.
I mean, you'll hear a lot of these things that Catholics worship Mary and the Saints, which is not true.
Or Catholics believe that you earn your salvation, which is, you know, that you achieve your salvation through your own effort exclusively.
That obviously is not true.
That Catholics worship idols.
That obviously is not true.
And these debates go back 2,000 years and there are many more sophisticated people who have written on them and settled them than you or I or many people writing today.
So I would encourage you to do that.
I would encourage you to check out resources like Catholic Answers.
great, great website and media company.
I would recommend that you check out the Patrick Madrid show.
It's a wonderful podcast and radio show, friend of mine, Patrick Madrid.
My friend Patrick Coffin, great, great too.
He's a little more for the already initiated, you know, but still very, very terrific
broadcaster.
But Patrick Madrid, I think, could really help answer some of these questions.
And I think they're irreconcilable until the church comes back together in the end,
which I suspect will happen.
But beyond the issue of the place of Mary and of the saints and of the episcopacy and the bishops and the pope and all, beyond all that, I think the central issue here is.
One, if you believe in the divine institution of a real church by a real guy who's incarnate, then, and you believe that the apostles really did receive certain graces, and you believe that they really did choose their replacements, and you believe that there is a line and there is history and there's a continuity to this institution, I think.
that leads one in the direction of the Catholic Church. And also on a philosophical level,
if you believe that there's the physical world and the metaphysical world, and they seem
very separate, right, this world that we're living in and then the supernatural, the outside of
physical, and you believe that sometimes they come together, most perfectly in the person of
Christ, who is fully man, but also fully God, and somehow he's together in this hypostatic
union. If you believe that and you believe that he institutes sacraments, you know, he, he says,
you have the power to forgive sins, whose sins you forgive or forgive and whose sins you retain
or retained. You have the keys to the kingdom of heaven. He says this to Peter, the first
pope. You have the keys to the kingdom of heaven. And the gates of hell will not, will not
prevail against my church and go feed my sheep and all of these sorts of things. If you believe in
the institution of the Eucharist that the Eucharist really is the body of
blood of Christ, then what you're saying at a philosophical level is mankind requires the regular
meeting of the physical and the metaphysical. And we know that we do because we are physical
beings, but we're also metaphysical beings, and we need that regular communion between those two
things. Then I think the place you're going to find that is the Catholic Church. Your mileage may
vary, of course, but that would be one of my arguments. From Ben, hi Michael, there is a lot of talk about
the flaws of America and other Western countries where they criticize.
are allowed to complain at a nauseous level.
My question is, which country would you least desire to live in if you could also exclude only one?
Basically, in 2021, which country would be a bleephole country would win the bleephole country
medal at the Olympics?
Thanks, sincerely came for the beer and blue jeans, stayed for the beer and blue jeans, hashtag Merca.
I think Afghanistan would be the place I'd least like to live.
It is historically one of the most dangerous, poor, tumultuous countries, and no one seems
able to conquer it.
I guess that's something it has going for it.
seems like a tough place to live.
And pretty strange that the United States has been there for 20 years.
It's 20 years now, isn't that wild?
But that's probably where I mean, no offense to the Afghani people.
It does not seem pleasant.
Of course, according to the left, America is no better than Afghanistan in some ways
were worse.
From Archie.
Michael, what is your favorite brand of sockless loafers?
And where do you stand on tassels?
My favorite brand of Sockless Loafer, I'm not even being paid to advertise them as Rankort and Company from Maine.
My thoughts on tassels, or they're a little more old school. I'm not quite, I don't have quite enough gray hairs yet. I prefer the penny loafer, but I'll wear tassels on occasion.
From Jared, Dear Michael, my wife is not a citizen yet. We're working on the paperwork, though. She informed to me recently that one of her relatives is here on a student visa and is planning to let the visa lapse and just stay here illegally.
As a Christian and a conservative, I feel very strong loyalty to my family, but I also feel a duty to do something about this, lest I be a hip-eeper.
in discussions of illegal immigration. What can I do to remedy this dissonance? Sincerely,
in a Vin Diesel voice, I don't need ice, I got family. That's, that's, tough, tough predicament
you're in, but I actually think there's a pretty straight answer. You should state your views
on the matter, both to your wife, to your wife's relative, to anyone who is interested in listening.
But I don't think you should rat this relative out to the cops. I don't think that would be the
right thing to do. I think perhaps you should persuade this relative to leave the country and then
if she wants to move here or to do that in a legal way. But I don't think it is your obligation or your
duty or really even your place to call the cops and have your relative deported, especially as
the immigration law is not being forced even by law enforcement. I don't think it would do anything,
frankly. We're letting, we've already let a million illegal aliens into the country. So for this year,
there's no chance, there's no evidence that they're going to slow down. So I just think, you know,
Nobody likes a tattletail. And so what you can do is work on a personal level, but I don't think
that you need to be the tattletail and the enforcement arm of ICE. Even ICE is not the enforcement
arm of ice. From Nick, in 1984, the slogan, war is peace lends to the idea that the party
can use international war for the purpose of domestic peace. But what would you say that our party,
or would you say that our party is using a domestic culture war to establish peace within the
shifting political landscape via slate of hand from Nick, the happily married one. Good,
this is not the Nick who, I like that other Nick too, but he's got, that guy's got problems
sometimes. So to the more stable Nick, I think you're catching on to something. What you're
asking, if I understood your question correctly, is, is the Republican Party just ginning up
people's opinions in the culture war without any intention of ever resolving the issues because
actually they benefit? So, for instance, on pro-life, I suspect that there are
many conservatives and Republicans who don't really want to move the needle on abortion,
they actually would prefer to keep abortion a live issue because they can fundraise on it
and it actually helps them politically. Yeah, I think that's true. And I've talked with
various people on Capitol Hill who have told me as much that there were some squishier Republicans
who they actually don't really want anything to happen on abortion. They just like fundraising
from it. It's too bad, but that's the way it works. And I think probably we've got to do a better job
of chasing those people out of office. All right, final question. From Jessica, conservatives have a
very traditional view of women in the world where traditional has become synonymous with sexist and
malignant. They have infiltrated the minds of women and men seemingly placing a higher value on
masculine qualities such as monetary success and success outside the home. Shouldn't the rights focus
be on redefining success and happiness, or focus on showing the feminine qualities are different
rather than less than, respectfully, nulls spawning over mansplaining. You are so right, my dear.
You are so right, Jessica. What the right?
often does is
accepts the left's premises
and then impotently
sort of tries to argue against them. Don't accept
the premises. Fight back, push hard,
get aggressive, or else we're going to
be here, not on the 500th day to slow the spread.
We're going to be here on the 1,000th day, the
1,000th day, the 2000th day.
I'll see you next time. I'm Michael Nulls. This is the Michael
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