The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 850 - Biden Cracks Down on Law & Order

Episode Date: September 24, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The countless thousands of Haitians pouring across our southern border have divided Americans. Conservatives argue that nations need borders and we cannot tolerate a flood of foreign nationals violating our most basic laws. Leftists argue that we owe it to the people of Haiti to take them in. As many as want to come should be allowed to come and border patrol should not lift a finger to stop them. Up until now, President Joe Biden has remained quiet on the issue. But at long last, we finally have video of President Biden's view of Haitians and their island nation as it pertains to the national interest of the United States. If Haiti, a godawful thing to say, if Haiti just quietly sunk into the Caribbean or rose up 300 feet,
Starting point is 00:00:48 it wouldn't matter a whole lot in terms of our interest. Well said, Mr. President. Now, in fairness, Joe Biden said that back in 1994, back when people still had had a at least the semblance of a sliver of common sense. Today, the Biden administration is attacking its own border patrol agents for in any way attempting to enforce the law. So is it any surprise that Americans fed up with the lawlessness are beginning to take the law into their own hands?
Starting point is 00:01:16 I'm Michael Knowles. It's the Michael Knowles show. Welcome back to the show. My favorite comment yesterday from Thor Darson, who says, if the Democrats are able to enact their global vision, we will have an embassy in every country that flies Hunter Biden's paintings just below the pride flag. That comment is actually even more profound than the comment are probably new because, yes, it's true. The symbol of American imperial hegemony these days is just the gay pride flag and we're going to raise it in Kandahar and we're going to raise it all over the place. But this is not because of some coherent moral philosophy that is being pushed by the liberal
Starting point is 00:01:59 imperialists. It's mostly just a grift. What the left is doing is appealing to our most base passions and our appetites, consumerism, sex, whatever, they're appealing to all of that to entrench their power for this oligarchy that is basically just enriching themselves by selling Hunter Biden's stupid finger painting for half a million dollars, by enriching themselves at the expense of our political order. It drives me nuts when people disrespect good Americans that way, which is why I'm so supportive of good ranchers. Did you know that over 80% the grass-fed beef sold in the United States is imported from overseas? Well, it might be local in Guatemala or something, but it's not local here, which is why the good ranchers have gone out to American ranches to bring you American meat to the American consumer all at an incredible price.
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Starting point is 00:03:27 each box of mouth-watering American meats that will show up on schedule right to your door. That is $20 off and free express shipping. If you go to Good Ranchers, dot com slash knolls can a WLES or use code noles at checkout 20 bucks off and free shipping at good ranchers.com slash knolls. The crisis at the border is supposed to play well for Democrats. That was the idea. You're going to open it up. The poor oppressed insert whatever foreign nation in the world is pouring over our border. We've got to let them across. We're the cause of all their problems. We're such a terrible country and that's why we've got to let them into our terrible. country and we owe it to them and we're the only nation on earth that shouldn't have borders,
Starting point is 00:04:10 so knock all of them down. And I think the American people are sick of that. I think that doesn't work. And so the main way that the left tries to gin up this kind of division is through race hustling. And in this case, because it's a bunch of Haitians pouring over the border, how did they get here? I don't know. I know that the Biden administration, Jen Saki, is saying that they don't plan to stay very long. And yeah, the Haitians just made it all the way over to Mexico and then they're running across the border just for a long weekend away or something. But because they're Haitian, now you have an added element of Black Lives Matter, right? These are black people. And so obviously the only reason to keep foreigners out of our country is because they're black. So Al Sharpton,
Starting point is 00:04:54 the race hustler par excellence left in our country, flies down to the border and he, and he, He starts to give one of his stupid race hustling lectures, but he's not as well received down there in Texas as he often is. Actually, he gets heckled while giving his extremely dumb remarks. Why are you trying to come and promote violence? Why are you here advocating for violence? Why are you here advocating for violence? Del Rio is not a racist city. Del Rio is a loving, caring community.
Starting point is 00:05:31 want you racism in Texas. Get out of here. Nobody wants to hear your racist nonsense in Del Rio. You're a racist. Nobody wants you in Texas. Nobody wants you in Texas. Wow, you know, I didn't expect to hear such common sense remarks in that speech. I wasn't hearing it from Al Sharpton. I was hearing it from the hecklers in Texas. And it's true. Al Sharpton is a disgrace. I mean, he's been a hustler and a pimp his entire career. He launched his career on a rape hoax. want a brawley hoax. Virtually everything else the guy's been involved in is a hoax, and it's just a shakedown so that any time he can claim some sort of racial offense, he can shake down corporations and local communities and enrich himself. Frankly, I had a greater deal of respect for
Starting point is 00:06:19 Al Sharpton back when he was a big fat guy wearing those expensive pinstriped suits, just walking around New York, shaking people down like the mobster that he is. Now that he looks like a shriveled up little raisin and he's wearing his kind of more, you know, put together higher class, more muted, you know, little vest and his little, his little nice shirt. I don't know. It doesn't play as well to me. It's sort of sad. And I don't think the American people are really buying it either. But the problem is, the problem is the libs still have all the power. And we don't really have the power. So yes, people are shouting down Al Sharpton. If you look at public opinion polls, the immigration crisis at the border is a disaster for Joe Biden's poll numbers, but they're not
Starting point is 00:07:02 going to change course because they have all of the institutional powers. So, Jen Saki was asked about this. She was asked about that complete non-traversy, that fiction that border patrol agents were using whips against Haitian illegal aliens who were pouring across. They weren't using They were holding rains so they could ride their horses. And based on this lie, Jen Saki is now saying, yeah, we're going to punish the border patrol. They're no longer allowed to use horses. What he has asked all of us to convey clearly to people who are understandably have
Starting point is 00:07:36 questions, are passionate, are concerned as we are about the images that we have seen, is one, we feel those images are horrible and horrific. There is an investigation. The president certainly supports overseen by the Department of Homeland Security, which he has conveyed will happen quickly. I can also convey to you that the secretary also conveyed to civil rights leaders earlier this morning that we would no longer be using horses in Del Rio. So that is something, a policy change that has been made in response. But separately, all related, it's also important for people to understand what our process and our immigration process is and what
Starting point is 00:08:14 the steps are that are taken. Now, I agree with Jen Saki here. The images we saw were horrible and horrific because a lot of the criminal migrants were getting through. That was what was horrible. What was horrible is not that law enforcement was attempting to enforce the law. What was horrible is that they weren't doing it very effectively because the politicians, notably people in the White House, were tying their arms behind their backs. Now the White House is saying no more can Border Patrol use horseback in this area. What are they going to use? In certain areas, they can't, in certain areas, they can't take a Humvee. They can't take a Crown Victoria.
Starting point is 00:08:55 They can't take these cars into these. They can't even take four by fours into these areas. So what are they going to? They can ride on horseback, but now they're not allowed to ride on horseback. Oh no. What a mistake. What incompetence some people say from the Biden administration. Please, please. Don't give me that. It's amazing to me that some Republicans still say this is incompetence. It's not incompetence. It's the point.
Starting point is 00:09:21 But if you get rid of horseback, then they won't be able to enforce the law. Right. That's the point. They don't want to enforce the law. The law is good for the American people. It's good for the national integrity of our country. But it's bad for Democrats because then Democrats can't flood the country with future voters. Statistically, illegal aliens are overwhelmingly likely to identify with Democrats.
Starting point is 00:09:46 With the destruction of voter integrity measures, they can probably vote in the next election. But even if they can't, because of our understanding of birthright citizenship, the idea that if you are a foreigner who comes here and as a kid, the kid automatically gets citizenship, then they're certainly going to get a lot of voters down the line. And with the mass amnesty that the Democrats keep trying to cram through, they'll probably get it much sooner than that. So they've got the power and they're going to do it. And that's just the way it goes. I wonder when AOC is going to go down to the border and start crying like she did under Trump. You remember that? the kids in cages. She wasn't actually crying in front of kids and cages. She was crying in front of a
Starting point is 00:10:23 parking lot in that white suit and she pretended to cry and it was not exactly a Marlon Brando kind of performance, but it got the message across. AOC has not done that. She's not going to do that because now it's the Biden administration, which is enforcing this sort of stuff. So it's not good PR. She has been crying, though. She's crying because she was not able to stop the Congress from giving a billion dollars to Israel to fund their missile defense system. And so she just starts crying. You can see video of her on the floor of the house, just sobbing. Oh, no, the Jews are going to be able to protect themselves.
Starting point is 00:11:03 No. This is defensive missiles, by the way. It's not offensive missiles. It's the Iron Dome system. No, those Jews are going to have defensive weaponry. No, now the Muslim terrorists in the Palestinian territories can't shoot at them. First of all, hysterical people should not be in public life. If this woman can't keep her emotions together while she's on the floor of the Congress,
Starting point is 00:11:26 she shouldn't be there. She's a too frivolous a person to be there. It's not good. I understand she might get reelected, but it's bad. It's not good for public life. But it's also worth pointing out why she is crying. She's crying because we're paying for Israel's defensive missiles. A lot of conservatives don't like foreign aid.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Some conservatives don't like Israel. I'm not making a point on either of those things right now. I am asking you to consider why she is crying. She's crying that Israel can defend itself because she and her ilk view Israel as an extension and really a creation of Western imperialism. They view the modern nation state of Israel as an expansion of Western imperialism in the Middle East as a symbol of Western civilization, which they hate, which they want to subvert. That's why they want to get rid of Israel.
Starting point is 00:12:14 So regardless of your views on modern nation state of Israel, regardless of your views, on us giving foreign aid willy-nilly all over the place. Don't get confused here. The reason that AOC hates Israel is because she hates you and because she hates the civilization that we on the right are attempting to defend. You know, when you want to really defend the health, not just of our civilization, but of yourself,
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Starting point is 00:13:42 slash knolls. The defining feature of the left, of the libs, the kind of liberal rule more broadly, is that it wants to tear down that which distinguishes the West. Hey, hey, ho, ho, Western Civ has got to go, as Jesse Jackson said, well, he marched through Stanford University. Tear down the statues, tear down our traditions, tear down our system of law, tear down our borders, tear down the things that distinguish us and set us apart from the rest of the world. You're seeing this right now in a specific way in Michigan, the Attorney General of Michigan, Dana Nessel, is very upset about the pro-life law in Texas. And there's actually some really good
Starting point is 00:14:31 news on that from around the country, which we'll get to in a bit. But she says, quote, adultery is a felony in Michigan. The prohibition was passed the same. year as Michigan's abortion ban. Do those who support the Texas abortion law also support granting standing to private citizens to sue adulterers when they violate the law? What say you, Michigan legislators? Ha, got you there. What? What, do you think that adultery should be a crime, too? Yeah, sure. Why not? Why not? I mean, I don't think that adultery. I don't think that cheating on your wife and killing a baby are on the same level. I think one of those things is graver than the other. But yeah, they're both pretty bad and I don't think that we should really encourage either of them.
Starting point is 00:15:24 And yeah, they both were illegal for a very long time for most of our civilization's history. So yeah, why wouldn't we do that? Wait, wait, you think that? Yeah, we do think that. This is just like when the Libs, when the Texas abortion law came out and the Libs said, Well, I'll tell you what. Rachel Maddow made this point. My doppelganger. I made this point of run MSNBC.
Starting point is 00:15:45 She said, well, you know, if we're not going to allow legal abortion, then we should hold the men responsible for staying with their children. Okay. Yeah, sounds great. Oh, we should make no-fault divorce harder? Yeah, I agree. That's a good idea. You're coming around, Rachel. You're coming around, Libs.
Starting point is 00:16:02 You're coming around, Michigan, Attorney General. Of course we should. At its most basic level. All policies, all political communities, attempt to pursue good and avoid evil. That's what we do. And how do we do that well by protecting certain liberties here, by protecting the integrity of these institutions, or by keeping some power separate in this government, the local government versus the,
Starting point is 00:16:28 but what we are trying to do, and it's just the most simple level, do good, avoid evil. Adultery is bad. We shouldn't have it. And so, yeah, I guess we should discourage it. That's pretty basic stuff. Politicians are really misunderstanding this political moment. A woman on the New York City subway showed the political moment. I just saw these when I was in New York.
Starting point is 00:16:54 A ton of really gross dating app ads where it's people like licking each other's mouths and simulating sex. And in some cases, like they got people propped up on countertops and little things. So this woman sees them and just starts ripping them down. Is that okay? kids to be looking at this gross stuff on the subway? It is propaganda. It is probably. Normalizing, normalizing, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:24 You're normalizing all these kind of sick, weird gender stuff. Like, no one sees this. Weird, gross sex stuff all over the subway. Because TV told them not to get upset and wear the mask. We're going over there. Let's go to the back. I mean, serious. I also love that just very few people are wearing masks on the subway. Like some people are, but a lot of people are now.
Starting point is 00:17:45 When I was there, I didn't do wear masks on some of the same. I look up, it's like, oh, gross. It's like someone with their finger going through an apple, obviously simulating some gross stuff. Also some gardened name imagery there. Yeah, it's gross. People with their tongues in each other's mouths. So, the debate is, what is freedom? Living in a society where anyone can put any kind of gross, obscene, weird porn stuff all over the subways for everyone to see, including little kids, or, is the free community, the one that can band together and say, no, we don't want this crap on our subways. And we don't want to allow sick, degenerate corporations to enrich themselves by rousing
Starting point is 00:18:30 up all our basest passions and having porn everywhere. Which is it. What is the freedom? You can kind of see an argument either way, right? So I think the people who are missing the moment, the libs and, to some degree, the libertarians, the ones who say like, you know, my, the greatest freedom is to just look at porn everywhere, right? I think those guys are misunderstanding where people are. I think most of the American people, especially younger Americans, are with that woman saying, we don't want this filth. We don't want this degeneracy everywhere. Okay, it's not good for us personally. It's not good for our political community. It's not good for our country. You know, this gets to a debate that we had on the last episode of Backstage. Okay, I'll give you
Starting point is 00:19:16 the perfect example of it. Nancy Pelosi. Nancy Pelosi was just asked as a Catholic, allegedly, to defend her views on abortion. Catholic Church says you can't have abortions, you can't encourage abortions if you're a politician, you can't go along with abortion. She says, well, I have a difference of opinion with the Catholic Church on that. And she makes a ridiculous, moral argument for why that's the case. Yeah, I'm Catholic. I come from a pro-life family, not actually. in that regard, different in their view of a woman's right to choose than I am. In my right to choose, I have five children in six years in one week, and I keep saying to
Starting point is 00:20:01 people who say things like that, when you have five children and six days, six years in one day, we can talk about what business is of any of us tell anyone else to do. For us, it was a complete and total blessing, which we enjoy every day of our lives. but it's none of our business how other people choose the size and timing of their families. My, the Archbishop of the city of that area of San Francisco, and I have a disagreement about who should decide this. I believe that God has given us a free will to honor our responsibilities. We need to have legal abortion because God gives us free will,
Starting point is 00:20:45 and so it's actually wrong. It's unchristian to prevent people from exercising their free will. Yes, I think abortion's wrong. For me, I would never kill any of my precious children. But poor people and disproportionately black people, yes, they should be able to kill their kids. We have a lot of them, don't we? Ugh, all those little poor people running around. Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:04 No, look, I would never do it. Why would you never do it, Nancy? Because it's wrong. But you think that it should be legal to do wrong things. God gives us free will, and it is therefore unchristian to outlaw things that are manifestly wrong, even killing babies. This gets to a debate that we had on the last episode of backstage, actually. There were the kind of the more traditional concert, you know, as me, Matt, to some degree, I think Drew were saying, no, you should, you should not be able to do that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:41 And then Ben and Jeremy were making the point that you should have the right to sin. Now, I think we would all agree abortion should not be legal. Okay, so we would all agree on that point. But, and I think we would all agree, but Nancy Pelosi might not agree, that a theft should be illegal. Murder should be illegal. Hey, Nancy, God gave you free will. So should you have the ability to go steal something? It's wrong.
Starting point is 00:22:05 You shouldn't do it, but should you have the right to do it, you have the freedom to do it? You just need to choose not to do it, right? No, nobody thinks that. Well, God gave me free will, so murders should be legal. I don't think we should commit murders, but murder should be legal. No. Everyone should choose for themselves if they want to commit murder, if they want to commit theft. No, I don't think so. But then I think where the divide might be is, you say, okay, look, you don't have the right to commit a sin that harms someone else. But you do have the right to commit a sin that harms yourself. Now, first of all, there is no sin that doesn't harm anyone else. We all live in a society. It has effects on the world. But the most private sorts of sins, let's say drugs or something. In American history, I mean, it's completely anti-historical, a-historical to say that, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:53 it's deeply American to have the right to harm yourself, to commit a private personal sin. We've had laws against drugs. We've had laws against certain sexual behaviors. We've had all sorts of laws that prevent you from doing that. But now, the more libertarian argument is, you should be allowed to overdose on drugs if you want. You should be allowed to do whatever you want with your body
Starting point is 00:23:10 as long as it doesn't scare the horses in the street. And the conservative argument is, no, you shouldn't. What it comes down to is, is this question. Do you have the right to sin? It would seem to me that error has no rights. Okay? You don't. You don't have the right to commit theft. You don't have the right to commit murder. You don't have the right to kill your baby. You don't, at least for now, have the right to do a bunch of illegal drugs. You don't have the right to mutilate yourself. You don't have the right to kill yourself. You actually don't have those rights. There are just certain moral realities that you cannot transgress.
Starting point is 00:23:44 okay, but that's the debate of our time right now. That's the big debate going on. This notion of radical individual autonomy, I can do whatever I want, just don't tell me no. Or this notion of do we want a good society. And I think the way it plays out is you got porn all over the subways or you've got something of the society that we seem to have lost, a more ordered society where things make a little more sense. Which society do you want to live in? You know, I want to protect not just my life, not just my society, but also I want to protect my data and my identity. That's why I would recommend checking out LifeLock. Do you do anything on the internet? Well, if so, your information is at risk. Okay, payment apps like Venmo, Cash App, and others may make payments easy. But also, you might
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Starting point is 00:26:01 that's already happening. Florida Republican state lawmaker on Wednesday introduced a bill that is modeled after a strict Texas law prohibiting abortions after six weeks, that wonderful pro-life law. It's called House Bill 167. It's by Representative Webster Barnaby. And it does the same thing. You can sue people if they're committing abortions, if they're involved in abortions. This is really great stuff. We need to go on the offense. And it ties in with this broader theme we've been talking about. Where is the future of the right and where is the future of the country? For a great many decades, the right could only agree on one thing in particular. maximize individual autonomy, choice. Do whatever you want. Just don't make me pay for it.
Starting point is 00:26:50 I think we have seen that that is insufficient. I think that having lost our institutions, having lost the definition of marriage, having lost the nature of sex itself, having lost education, having lost everything other than occasional tax cuts, I think we've realized that vision is insufficient because all society. need to do something. All societies need to value certain things and oppose other things. And if we're not going to offer a vision of what we think the good is, then the only vision you're going to have is from the left. And then the left, because nature of wars a vacuum is going to take over. So I think this is good stuff. I think all the other states with Republican governors
Starting point is 00:27:34 and legislatures need to go on the offense, need to start passing this stuff. Okay? Move the culture in that direction. That's going to be difficult for some squishy Republicans who even, some squishy Republicans, even on the issue of abortion, say, well, I don't know. Can't we, can't we just avoid the culture wars? Let's just talk about, you know, bumping up GDP a little bit. Can we, can we, let's just talk about tweaking the health care system. No, let's talk about justice. Let's talk about virtue. Let's talk about the kind of society we want to live in. Do you want to live in an angry, crazy senseless society that's just saturated in filth, or do you want to live in a society that's not perfect? It's never going to be perfect.
Starting point is 00:28:17 This is a fallen world, but it's just a little bit nicer, where things are a little more stable, where the family is a little more stable, where our local communities are a little more stable, where you can take your kid onto the subway without seeing creepy, you know, gender-bending porn. Which one do you want to live in? I think we would all agree. The latter. But one of the big hold-ups to getting more. back to a normal society is that the liberal establishment has just taken a ton of power.
Starting point is 00:28:46 They've taken a ton of power away from you, and they've done it through our COVID regime. As long as the emergency of COVID lasts, then these rulers can rule however they wish, with whatever whims and caprices they like. 15 days to slow the spread is now well over a year and a half. Now, this is probably going to be censored, but I'll say it anyway. creator of the AstraZeneca vaccine, a very, very important scientist. Professor Dame Sarah Gilbert has just come out and said that eventually COVID will just be a cold. It'll just be a common cold. Some of us have been saying that for most people it is a cold already. For some people it's
Starting point is 00:29:30 very serious, but for most people it's just kind of like a cold. It's like a bad cold, but it's fine. She says eventually it's just going to be a cold for everyone. This is just, this is what happens. She says, quote, we already live with four different human coronaviruses that we don't really ever think about very much. And eventually, SARS-COVID-2, COVID-19, the woo flu, will become one of those. It's just a question of how long it's going to take to get there and what measures we're going to have to take to manage it in the meantime. Why does this happen? Because, quote, viruses become less virulent as they circulate more easily and there's no reason to think that we will have a more virulent version of COVID-19. We tend to see slow genetic drift of the virus and there will be gradual
Starting point is 00:30:08 immunity developing in the population as there is to all the other seasonal coronaviruses. Good news. But how long is this going to go on for? One of the vaccine manufacturers, I forget which one. I think it was Moderna, but who knows, it's one of them, says, you know, I think COVID, I think these difficult COVID measures are going to go on for another year. Oh, do you? Do you? You people who are most profiting from coronavirus, you think it's going to, other than Amazon, who's profiting the most, you think it's going to go on another year. I bet in a year you're going to hear, oh, it's going to go on another year, another two years, another three years. This stuff is not going away until we tell it to, until we make it go away. You know, Leanna Wend, who's the
Starting point is 00:30:50 former president of Planned Parenthood, she now goes on CNN all of the time, and she talks about her health advice. She says we are nowhere near allowing kids to lose masks in schools. I agree that masks are a very powerful layer of protection, but it's one layer. And if we have so many other layers that are present, masking may be one that could go away. But I would say that, let's say a school where it is or a particular class, everybody is vaccinated in that class. And also the level of community transmission is declining. I could imagine that situation being where we remove masks because we have all these other layers. Or if we have rapid testing, imagine if every child in terms, imagine if every child in terms of, we can't imagine if we have rapid testing, imagine if every child in. teacher were tested every morning. And also, they're vaccinated. You can imagine that situation, even if there's high levels of community spread, that maybe you can remove masks at that time. But we are nowhere near that yet. And I think what we really need to do is get the vaccines authorized for children as soon as that's possible. And also really ramp up testing, because that is a powerful tool that we're just not using across the country as we should be.
Starting point is 00:31:56 We're just, we're nowhere near where we need to be to let little kids take off the masks, even though kids statistically face virtually no risk. Very, very, very, very little risk from the coronavirus and then the people who are vaccinated. We are also told face very, very little risk from serious disease. So you can't worry that the kids are just going to spread it to the vulnerable people because the vulnerable people already have the vaccine unless the libs are lying about something somewhere down the line.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Nowhere near it. But you could see a world. You can see a light at the end of the tunnel. Just allow us to keep power for a little while longer. Leanna Wynn is a curious figure. Because she's talking about the health of children. And she, of course, is best known for running an organization that kills hundreds of thousands of children a year. That their job is to kill little babies.
Starting point is 00:32:44 But Leanna Wen was also pushed out because she wanted to deemphasize abortion at Planned Parenthood. She wanted to at least have a little cover at Planned Parenthood to say, no, that's not all that we do here. And so they boot her to this. No, that is. That is all that we do. You're out, Leanna Wen. So she's a confounding figure. I think she's a good representative of the quote unquote moderate liberal view, which isn't very
Starting point is 00:33:07 moderate at all. It's quite extreme to the left. But I think that if you look at what Leanna-Wen is saying here, that is the voice of the establishment. Yes, there's a world in which we can almost go back to normal, even though we're still going to have the power to do whatever we want, but we're nowhere near that yet. Oh, we're just a little bit longer, just a little bit longer. How much longer are we supposed to wait before we all start taking down signs in the subway like that lady in New York? You know, systemic corruption infects our institutions and all of the elites blame you. We've been talking about that on this show. Well, Drew is going to talk about that today on the Andrew Claven show, so go check that out.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Also, subscribe and listen to Morning Wire on Apple, Spotify, wherever you listen to podcasts and leave a five-star review. If you like what you hear, we'll be right back with the mailbag. Welcome back to the show. my favorite, not my favorite comment. These are my favorite time of the week. This is the mailbag. First question from Daniel.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Michael, I started dating my girlfriend a couple weeks ago. However, I have had strong feelings for another girl who has expressed that she wants to be with me, but doesn't want to be in a relationship. Uh-huh. The situation is rather difficult, as we see each other very often, and the chemistry is still there.
Starting point is 00:34:30 I want to be with this girl, but I would rather be in a serious relationship rather than just something meaningless. there anything I can do. So you're telling me, so you got this girlfriend who seems nice enough. And then there's this other girl who you've got the hots for. And she's got the hots for you. But she doesn't want to be in a relationship with you because she's got the hots for other guys, too. And so what you want to do is dump your good girlfriend to go hang out with this strumpet so you can have casual sex on those happy occasions when she's not having casual sex with other guys.
Starting point is 00:35:02 That's what you're saying. Ah, to be young. To be young and stupid. Gosh, It's been a while, but I know. I know. Guys think this way. Young people think this way. But I hope that my describing the situation to you, my just repeating back to you what you have told me will let you see clearly. You should definitely not be with the strumpet. That's not a good idea. You maybe should not even be in a relationship with your girlfriend because it sounds like you, you're not ready for a relationship. You know, you're just kind of settling for her or something like that. I would. recommend trying to work on a little bit of chastity. Easier said than done. It's easier for an old man like me, an old married man with a kid to talk about this than a young person like you. But I think that it's quite clear that what would be better for you and for society is for you
Starting point is 00:35:59 to be in the more kind of steady relationship with the girl who's not going to lead you astray. So either do that and take that seriously and make a decision and work on that. that. Or don't. Break up with both girls. You know, don't just take your girlfriend as a consolation prize if you're really not into her and, you know, wait until someone that you do like comes along. But I would not, good grief. It's amazing. I mean, I know that men think this way. I was, I was young once, so I do know. But it reminds me of this joke that Drew Claven talks about, the joke about the guy who walks into a bar with an orange for a head. And the short version of it is, The bartender says, all right, you're going to tell me, how do you got an orange for a head?
Starting point is 00:36:39 He says, well, you know, I walked on the beach. I found a magic lamp and a genie came out. I wouldn't believe it. He said, I'll give you three wishes. I said, okay, well, if you're really a genie, I want you to give me a million dollars. I go home, oh my gosh, publisher's clearinghouse shows up, a million dollar check. I go, okay, you know, I want to sleep with every playboy playmate, you know, of the last year. I knock, knock on the door.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Oh, my gosh, all these women show up. Wow, that's amazing. He says, okay, well, what happened then? He goes, well, you know, I had one more wish, and here's the part. part that's, well, I asked to have an orange for a head. And some people really don't get that joke, but it's a joke about the perversity of mankind. We just, we are self-sabotaging creatures. And that's what you're doing, buddy. You're sabotaging yourself. So don't do that. From Seth. Dear Michael, I've been watching your show almost daily since I discovered it two years
Starting point is 00:37:27 ago. Thank you. And have purchased speechless, controlling words, controlling minds. Thank you. Oh, man, you're a gentleman and a scholar. I agree with you on probably everything, but the death penalty. Do we sinners have the authority to condemn somebody to death? Does justice not belong to God? And as it does, if the death penalty also isn't as effective as a deterrent in life in prison, then what argument is left to prefer the death penalty over mercy and giving ourselves every bit of time to try to convert these criminals? Hope to hear from you soon. Love you, sincerely, the ghost of Saddam Hussein. Okay, well, first of all, your hypothetical there is a big if. If it's not a deterrent, I actually think the death penalty is a deterrent when it is implemented.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Right now, we don't really implement it all that much. So when studies come out and say, it's not really deterring crime, well, right, we don't really implement it. It seems like a decent deterrent to me. But deterrence is not the primary purpose. Now, you mentioned shouldn't we have time to convert the people who are on death row, the people who otherwise we would execute? Well, you're getting to rehabilitation now, which is another reason, it's another argument
Starting point is 00:38:31 for the criminal justice system. But it seems to me that hanging concentrates the mind. It seems to me you might have a far better chance of converting someone if he knows that he's on the brink of death, that he's facing the gallows. So the rehabilitation aspect, I think, is already there. And then you say, well, what's the point? The point is neither deterrence nor rehabilitation primarily, but justice. The point is justice. Do I think that we lowly sinners have the right to kill people?
Starting point is 00:38:58 No. But I think that, or at self-defense, I suppose we do, which is one. argument for the death penalty. But rather than me or you, I think that the civil authority has the right for capital punishment. Actually, the Bible says so too. St. Paul makes it very clear. The Old Testament makes it very clear. He who sheds the blood of man by man shall his blood be shed. I think that history makes it very clear. I think that if we have the right to throw people in prison for 70 years or so 50 years, why would we not have the right to kill them?
Starting point is 00:39:36 I don't, we, through the civil authority. I don't really understand that. It seems to me you're taking justice to one of these, to this extreme of we should never pass any judgments whatsoever. We need to have justice in society. Or I don't think there's anything Christian or biblical or right or just about letting the cruel rape the earth. Now it needs to be, it can't be revenge,
Starting point is 00:39:58 it can't be just vigilantism all over the place, but we have a criminal justice system in place. It's relatively effective, so it seems fine to me. One of the arguments you'll hear is Catholics cannot support the death penalty. First of all, Catholics, many Catholics support the death penalty. As Pope Benedict says very well, there can be a legitimate disagreement about the implementation of the death penalty among Catholics. And in fact, many popes have carried out the death penalty.
Starting point is 00:40:25 And Blessed Pope Pius I, the 9th, carried out a lot of executions in the papal states. So that just seems to me a very modern, a kind of modern liberal or libertarian argument that does not hold a lot of historical water. From Michael, masternals, I would like to know your opinion on the idea of putting a fleece before the Lord, referencing the story of Gideon in the Bible. I have a family member who often urges me to do this as a way to find direction from God. However, it makes me feel as though I'm seeking God to be my personal genie rather than living by faith and wisdom of the Holy Spirit. the only time I feel biblically confident in testing God would be in finances, specifically with tithing. Putting a fleece before the Lord just feels icky to me. What are your thoughts on this? P.S., my wife is jealous of how much I admire you. Let's be friends. Sincerely, a fellow Michael. Oh, thank you. So for those who don't know, putting a fleece before the Lord is basically asking for a sign. You know, Lord, I have to make this difficult decision. So, you know, tell me what I should do.
Starting point is 00:41:19 People pray for this sort of thing. It's very nice to get these sorts of things. But don't forget that it is an even. generation that seeks for signs and wonders. My priest, Father George Rutler in New York, very wise man, points this out. He says it's an evil generation that seeks for signs and wonders. But it is a stupid generation that ignores signs and wonders. Very often, you will get some kind of, you will see some kind of symbol in the world. I myself have had this happen. You know, I was an atheist for a very long time. Then I started to revert and I became intellectually convinced. And then during the period where I really, my faith solidified, I was, it was a really wild time. I mean, I was having what you would call religious experience
Starting point is 00:42:03 that was happening quite a lot. And there were these sort of numinous events and symbols and maybe coincidences, you would say, but I really don't think there are many coincidences. So what does that mean? What does it mean when you get a sign from the Lord? RBC Training Ground has discovered potential in over 20,000 Canadian athletes and counting. Your story could be next. If you've got the drive, they'll help you find your path to the Olympics. Let's see what you've got. Sign up for free at rbc trainingground.ca.
Starting point is 00:42:34 I try not to interpret these things and divine their special meaning and, you know, act like a sorcerer or a magician. To me, the meaning of the sign is that the Lord is there. There is an order to the universe. There is such a thing as Providence. And the good Lord has endowed you with moral reasoning, judgment, conscience, and I think you should rely on that and not just, you know, try to read the tea leaves. I think I agree with your feeling that that generally is icky to put the Lord your God to the test from Schaefer. Hi Michael. My wife and I are about to have our first baby, and we're looking to confirm that our baby's godparents need to be of the Catholic faith. And good standing and confirmed, is this accurate? I've done some research, and it seems that this is the case, but we heard from others that it's not necessary. We will ask our priest on Sunday, but if you can address this before then I don't want to leave him speechless that we don't know the answer to this. Love the show. Yes, if you are Catholic and you're going to raise the kid Catholic, then the godparents need to be Catholic. That's true. That's true. It's just the way it is. I recently got engaged to a wonderful man. We will be getting married in about six months, or according to Dr. Fauci, less than 15 days. Both of us are active churchgoers and strong believers in Christ.
Starting point is 00:43:44 We recently started marriage counseling with one of the ministers from the church my fiancee grew up in, and we've been reading The Meaning of Marriage by Tim Keller together as well. Do you have any advice for us as we move through the rest of our engagement and into young married life that might help our marriage be successful and of strong faith? My now fiancé is the one who turned me onto your show and we started dating, So, as you might imagine, we're both huge fans. That's great. It sounds like you found a very excellent man with sound judgment and good taste. My fiance and I are looking forward to any advice you might have to offer. Yes, I will give you the advice. It actually ties in with the theme of this show.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Do you have the right to commit sin? Do we have the right to adultery? Do we have the right to sort of pursue our own tastes and appetites everywhere? This is advice that Drew Claven gave me before I got married. I said, Drew, you've been happily married a long time. What's your advice? He said, here's my advice. don't sleep with other people. He used more colorful language. I'm going to clean that up because this is a family show. Don't sleep with other people. And you'll have a good, you'll have a good wedding.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Or a good marriage, rather. I asked Jeremy for advice. Jeremy gives me good advice too. He said, you know, if you have to go to bed angry. If you go to bed angry, you're still married in the morning. But if you make this thing, I won't go to bed angry and you just keep some argument going on and on when you're all tired and angry at your wits.
Starting point is 00:44:58 That's not going to be good either. Now, these are both men who have been married longer than I have, probably a bit more wisdom in that area than I do. But I think that's pretty basic stuff, yeah. Do the right thing. Respect your, you know, wives submit to your husbands. Husbands love your wives. I'm not sure which one is more difficult at certain times. They're both difficult. They're both calls to do things that we are not, through our broken nature, normally inclined to do. And, you know, have respect for your spouse in all things. I mean, you know, in the Drew advice, that means. Don't cheat on your spouse. And in the sort of Jeremy advice, it is recognize you're in this thing. You know, you're in this thing together and have respect for them. Don't just always try to
Starting point is 00:45:42 win every single point in every single argument. I mean, you know, you'll grow together, ideally. You'll grow together or you'll grow apart. So make sure that you do that. And I recognize that this other person is now part of you. You know, when the good Lord says, you're one flesh, I mean, that is a very profound image. is part of you. So you wouldn't want to abuse some part of yourself and whether that's emotionally, physically, obviously, spiritually. But I guess in our culture, we think that we do have a right to abuse ourselves. We do think that we have a right to sin and error. But I don't think that you do. So don't do that, either. The way that you treat your spouse and the way that you treat your own
Starting point is 00:46:25 body are sort of the same thing. You should treat them both well. From Jesse, sweet nephew Knowles. I have been in many different conversations with my friends about the draft and the future of warfare. All of them have told me that war will never be fought in the same manner, hand-to-hand, trench warfare, etc. This constitutes the elimination of the draft. These normal people cannot operate complicated equipment, for instance, drones. What are your thoughts? As warfare changed forever with the advent of drones and nukes to the point of eliminating the draft, if so should women be included in a draft?
Starting point is 00:46:51 Because physical combat's no longer necessary. Congrats on Sweet Baby June. Well, if you're saying, if the premise is there's not going to be any draft anymore, I guess women should not register because there's not going to be any draft. But no, I think that the military is a very broad place. There's lots of different jobs in the military, lots of supportive roles. And so I don't think there's ever going to be a world in which our wars are fought by 10 people. I think that the draft is still necessary because a nation has to defend itself.
Starting point is 00:47:18 And I don't think women should register for the draft. I think that's wrong. I think it is, you're right, it does not maximize individual autonomy. me. It does this particular view of mine. It does not eliminate the biological constrictions of sex and nature. But that's just the way it is. I think that we need to stand up for what is right and we need to embrace and enforce such a vision. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Nulls show. See on Monday. If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to subscribe. And if you want to help spread the word, please give us a five-star review and tell your friends to subscribe. We're
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