The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 952 - Propaganda War
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The late American Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld famously said that there were three types of
knowledge in war. Known known unknowns, known unknowns, and unknown unknowns. That is, things that we know
that we know, things that we don't know, and things that we don't even know that we don't know.
But there is a fourth type of war knowledge, known unknowns. That's a fourth. That's.
That is, things we think we know that in fact, we do not know.
And when it comes to the war in Ukraine, it is that fourth kind of knowledge that we are all full of.
Everyone knows, for instance, about the ghost of Kiev, the ace fighter pilot who shot down five, maybe even seven Russian fighter jets on just the first day of fighting.
We know about him because we read about him on social media.
We even saw videos of his heroics in the sky.
Except we didn't. The video isn't real. The airplane isn't even real. It's a cartoon from a digital
combat video game. Everyone knows, for instance, that Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky is not only
refusing to flee or surrender, but is actually fighting on the front lines. We know this,
because we've all seen the photos of him wearing combat fatigues, gun in tote, except the photo
isn't from last week. It's actually from months ago and a long way from Kiev. Here we go. Reuters fact
check. Everyone knows about the 13 brave sailors guarding Snake Island who refused to back down to a
Russian ship whose final words to the Russians were, go F yourself before all 13 were killed. We know
this because we saw the video. This is the Russian warship comes up. This is the Russian warship. I repeat.
I suggest you surrender your weapons and capitulate.
Otherwise, I will open fire.
Do you copy?
Okay, and then you're just seeing this on the island.
You're hearing this audio.
The Ukrainians said, this is it.
Should I tell him to go F himself?
Just in case.
Turns up the volume.
Russian warship, go F yourself.
And then we were told they were all killed.
But what a way to go out.
We saw that happen, except we didn't.
It turns out the sailors happily were probably not killed but captured, as even the Ukrainian foreign ministry now admits.
None of this is to take away from the bravery of the Ukrainians.
Those sailors, they seem like pretty tough dudes, okay, regardless of whether they were killed or captured.
The Ukrainian servicemen, the civilians, and President Zelensky himself are all demonstrating immense bravery.
But most of the stories you're hearing right now about this war seem incredible,
precisely because they are not credible. They are the product of dueling propaganda machines
with both sides going into overdrive to spin the best yarns to help their side. This war is unlike
anything we've seen in my lifetime. It occurred to me a couple of nights ago that this is the
first major war in my lifetime to take place between civilized nations. And it's all the more
frightening because our political elite in the West did not believe it could actually happen.
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One day after the fighting started in Ukraine.
There were people, friends of mine here at the Daily Wire, outside the Daily Wire, they said,
Oh my gosh, Michael, did you hear about the ghost of Kiev?
I saw it trending.
What's the ghost of, oh, Michael, it's unbelievable.
There's this ace fighter pilot. No one knows who he is. And he's just shooting down Russian fighter jets left and right. They haven't seen this kind of thing since World War II. They haven't seen this thing in 70 years probably. I said, oh, yeah. And how do you know about the ghost of Kiev? I said, well, we saw him trending on Twitter. Oh, Twitter, that thing that is completely controlled by a handful of extremely ideological people that totally manipulated. And why else do you believe? Well, we saw this video. Man, it's like something out of Hollywood. Oh, something out of Hollywood.
would you say? Huh? Maybe, maybe, and I don't want to sound like a tinfoil hack guy here,
maybe it's completely fake. Like most of what the establishment tells us, maybe it's just
completely made up in some soundstage in Hollywood, or more likely on a hard drive in Hollywood.
Of course, there's a ton of propaganda. There's propaganda in every war. We happen to be living
in an age of extremely accelerated, extremely heightened propaganda because of, a,
of how advanced our technology has become.
Just think about how easy it is to make a deep fake.
Think about how easy it is to use Photoshop.
Now place the most powerful governments on Earth
in charge of that technology
and recognize that they've also got access
to the widest communications distribution platform
ever known to man that can be highly manipulated
without you even realizing it.
And then you see propaganda taken to brand new heights.
This is not a war between, say,
a superpower on one hand and illiterate goat herders on the other. This is a war between
civilized nations, okay? Civilized nations who are known, well, it's a war technically between
Russia and Ukraine, but it's really a proxy battle between Russia and the West. So you're seeing a
kind of replay of the Cold War here. Two entities, very well known for their extremely
sophisticated propaganda, especially the Russians. I'm not saying, I'm not saying necessarily,
that everything you think you know about this war is false.
What I am saying is that there is absolutely no reason to believe that any of the things
you think you know about this war are true.
We just don't know.
We just don't know.
We are in the midst.
Obviously, the Ukrainians are in the midst of a real guns, firepower war.
The rest of the world is in the midst of a very intense propaganda war.
Now, this isn't to say there's no genuine heroism.
There's a story, it appears to be a real story, of a hero sailor.
Vitali Shakun Volo Damirovich, I'm sure I'm butchering the pronunciation.
This was a Ukrainian sailor who saw that the Russians were about to cross a bridge from Russian-occupied Crimea to mainland Ukraine.
So he runs out onto the bridge.
He realizes that he's not going to be able to get off if he wants to destroy the bridge and he blows himself up.
Now, that story appears to be true. That's very, very impressive. That's genuine heroism.
It's very hard to parse, though, the real heroism from the made-up propaganda. There's a parliament member in Ukraine right now.
This woman in Ukraine tweets out, quote, I learn to use Kalashnikov and prepare to bear arms. It sounds surreal.
It's just a few days ago. It would never come to my mind. Our women will protect our soil the same way as our men go Ukraine.
seems like she's staying in Ukraine. I don't think she's fled. Seems that she's got a Kalashnikov in her hand.
This is one of the, I guess it's true. I guess it's real. It's hard to tell. A little bit more of a
margin call. And then some things we just can't possibly know. The Ukrainians are claiming that they
have killed thousands of Russian fighters. The Ukrainian government is claiming that Russia has
suffered about 3,000 troop casualties and lost 516 kinds of various military vehicles, 80 tanks,
10 airplanes, 7 helicopters.
That was just by Friday.
I'm sure they're claiming much higher numbers now.
Is that true?
I don't know.
We just don't know.
We don't really know what is going on in Ukraine.
And yet we're all glued to it.
And we are following this and we're very wrapped up.
in the outcome, obviously, and we're, you know, Vladimir Putin appears to be implying that he's willing
to use nuclear weapons. For goodness sakes, this war feels very different than other wars that we've had,
at least in my lifetime. There have been a lot of wars in my lifetime. This one feels totally
different. Why? What occurs? I got into a lot of trouble for saying this. I don't even,
I did not expect to get into a ton of trouble for saying this, but as usual, when you say something
that is obviously true, those are the tweets that get you into trouble.
And so what I said the other night was, this is the first major war in my lifetime to take place between civilized nations.
There have been other wars.
Okay.
There have been wars.
There was the breakup of Yugoslavia.
There were those wars.
Was that a major?
I wouldn't call those major wars.
There was Kosovo.
I remember Kosovo vividly from the 90s.
Would you call that a major war, though?
All of the world is holding their breath?
Probably not.
There were obviously the Middle Eastern wars.
But would you say, please forgive me, I know I'm not supposed to say this, would you really say
that Moimar Gaddafi's Libya is the height of civilization? I don't think so. Bashar Assad, Syria,
you think that's really, that's it. You think of Renaissance Rome and Bashar Assad Syria. Yes,
civilization, ain't it great? No, I don't think so. Some people responding, a lot of very angry
blue checks were responding to my observation. And they said, Michael, you idiot, don't
you know that Iraq is the birthplace of civilization? Many thousands of years ago, Iraq was a civilization.
Yeah, it's been a while, hasn't it? Hasn't it? Do you think now today, or even during Saddam Hussein's reign,
you're just going to go to Iraq for a lovely getaway, part of the grand tour, we're going to go to
all the wonderful civilized salon discussions in Saddam Hussein's Iraq? I don't think so. Okay,
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when I said that this is the first major war between civilized nations in my lifetime,
I chose those words carefully. And all of these liberals got so angry. I mean, there have been
thousands and thousands of responses, all sorts of blue checks. And one thing I notice about all of
the responses to my observation is they're really angry and they call me all sorts of names and
they use all sorts of nasty language. And none of them have examples of wars that prove me wrong.
They'll say, what about the, what about the 2020 and 2021 Nagorno-Karabak conflict?
What?
What are you talking about?
Well, what about the war in Afghanistan?
I said civilized.
Well, what about this or that?
There's major war between civilized nations.
I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings to point out that Libya is not a particularly civilized
place. I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings to point out that a battle between Saudi Arabia and
Yemen does not match all of those criteria. But this is a little different. We're talking about
reality. You've got a nuclear former superpower conquering its neighbor, Ukraine, a state with a long
history of civilization. That's a little bit different. Okay. I'm not even making the point.
When I made this observation, it wasn't some dunk on Middle Eastern tin pot dictatorships.
It wasn't. It wasn't to say, oh, how wonderful Russia is, or Ukraine is, even, or Western Europe, for that matter.
It was to point out that this is a different kind of war. That's why we're treating it differently.
And the propaganda has really turned up a level because of that civilization, because they're really, really good at it.
They're better at it than Yemen is. Okay. And it's even more crucial to how we view this war because the liberals didn't think this could happen.
This was the argument. The after the Cold War, we've reached the end.
of history. We're liberalism one, relatively free markets one, globalism one, free trade among
nations. At one, we're going to just slowly expand that into a new world order. And I'm not,
this is not a tinfoil hat phrase. This is a phrase used by the president of the United States,
by State Department officials. We're going to have a kind of order of the nations. We've got
one hegemonic superpower. That's the United States. We're all going to trade. We're all going to get
along and there's not going to be any more wars. Certainly no more wars between the civilized
nations, except there are, except it's happening. But Putin, he's not supposed to invade Ukraine.
Yeah, well, he did. So what are you going to do about it? The thing that you said wasn't going to
happen that all of us conservatives said very likely would happen, very much could happen.
That thing did happen. So, Jen So, Saki, so White House, can you just answer me a simple question?
What policies have you used with regard to the Ukraine conflict? What policies have you put in place
that have worked.
What have you guys done throughout this slow-moving Russia crisis that has worked?
In what capacity?
Well, the president talked to Putin.
He talked to the G7.
He threatened sanctions.
He put sanctions in place.
Now he says the sanctions are going to take 30 days or about a month.
Do you guys think the people in Ukraine have about a month?
Well, Peter, let me just take a step back and explains everyone how diplomacy works
and how our approach from the United States has worked.
What the President has done is he has built a global coalition
to stand up in the face of President Putin
and President Putin's aggression and invasion of Ukraine.
What he has done is he has rallied the world,
our European partners, even at cost to them in some capacities,
to put in place significant sanctions, historic sanctions,
that would have an enormous impact on the Russian,
financial sector. It is President Putin's choice to go to war and invade Ukraine. That is what he
has done. So nothing. You got nothing. Okay. You knew that Jen Saki had nothing the moment that Peter
Ducey finished asking the question. And she said, hey, wait, hold on, what worked? What do you mean what
worked? Like she's stalling like kids do in class, you know, seventh grade English class.
Hey, Johnny, what happened in chapter three? A chapter three? Do you want me to answer the question
about you? Yes, that's what I asked you. Chapter 3, huh? Well, let me give you a little lesson about
literature. That's what she's saying. Let me give you a little lesson about diplomacy. No, I don't need a
lesson about diplomacy. I don't need international relations 101. Just cite the policy that's worked.
Well, hey, forget about the policies that we've already tried that didn't work. We're going to put
some sanctions on Russia. Oh, oh, you're going to put sanctions on Russia. The thing that Trump did
that then Biden took away. But, okay, what kind of sanctions? Because Trump puts
sanctions on Russian energy. Trump stopped the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, which is if any specific
individual event is at the heart of this war right now between Russia and Ukraine, it would be this
pipeline because the minute that Vladimir Putin gets to the green light on his pipeline,
he gets to invade Ukraine because he doesn't need to rely on Ukraine to ship his oil from Russia to
Europe. So what about that? Oh, right, Joe Biden gave the green light to the pipeline, which was
essentially rolling out the red carpet for Vladimir.
Putin to invade Ukraine. What are you doing now? Oh, you're putting sanctions on Russia,
except you're not sanctioning the Russian energy industry, which is the only thing that matters in
Russia. This news had started to break on Friday. Okay, we're going to have sanctions on all
the other industries in Russia. Russian habitashers are going to be in trouble. The people who make
those stacking dolls in Russia, oh boy, they're going to have a bad Christmas. They're going to
have trouble heating their homes, but they're not going to have too much trouble because the Russian
oil industry is going to be just fine. The Russian gas industry is going to be just fine. Nothing.
They've done nothing that has worked. And I was trying to figure out why. Why? We know that the
Bidens are in the pocket of Ukraine. Let's not forget, speaking of the energy industry, Joe Biden's
son, Hunter, had a no-show job in Ukraine because Ukraine is also a corrupt oligarchy, just like Russia.
And he had this no-show job where he was being paid hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars
to do absolutely nothing for the expertise in Ukrainian oil that he obviously does. He obviously
does not possess. So the Biden family has some interest in Ukraine. Why do they seem to be so
incoherent in their policy? Because they don't have any direction. They didn't think this war was
pot. The liberal establishment did not believe this war would really happen. It breaks their view
of the world that Russia would invade another country. And so they don't know what to do when it
happens. And they go one way and they go the other and they keep vacillating back and forth.
And what they're really trying to do is just pretend that it's not happening. But it is happening.
And it's happening because of specific policies and incentives you left in place.
What can Joe Biden do? Not very much if you ask him.
Let me pull this out for you. Where is it? There you go.
Okay. Say presidents can't do much. Thank you.
I dropped my speech. Where is my? Ha, ha, ha. Can't we can't, presidents can't do much. Some presidents can't do much. This might be the truest thing that Joe Biden's ever said. Joe Biden can't do much at all. He's given no direction. We know because of the propaganda that's flooded everywhere. We, all we really know about the Ukraine conflict is Ukraine good, Russia bad, change your Facebook profile.
picture to be the Ukraine flag. That's going to help. That's going to be really helpful.
And, you know, tweet about it. You got to tweet about it. That's very important. And maybe make
videos involving slam poetry about how Vladimir Putin has mommy issues. Oh, that'll show him.
That'll stop the war. And beyond that, I don't know. Beyond that, who beats me?
This reminds me of when Michelle Obama, during the Obama administration, was responding to the Boko Haram crisis in Africa.
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And I remember, you remember when the head of Boko Haram just broke down crying.
He said, please, no more.
No more hashtags, Michelle, we can't take it.
Okay, you can take back your girls.
Take them.
Take them back, Michelle.
Please.
No more white sheets of paper and memes.
We can't take the memes.
No, that's not what happened at all.
It's not what happened at all.
It's completely incoherent.
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back with a lot more. Vladimir Putin is a very small.
man. The Western leaders, by and large, are very stupid men. I'm not, I'm not making a value
judgment. I'm not, I'm not ascertaining or comparing the character, the virtues of these
world. I'm just making an obvious observation. Vladimir Putin is smarter than Western leaders.
Donald Trump made that observation at CPAC and it got him into a whole lot of hot water.
Yesterday, reporters asked me if I thought President Putin was smart.
I said, of course he's smart, to which I was greeted with, oh, that's such a terrible thing to say.
I'd like to tell the truth, yes, he's smart.
The NATO nations, and indeed the world, as he looks over what's happening strategically
with no repercussions or threats whatsoever, they're not so smart.
they're looking the opposite of smart.
If you take over Ukraine, we're going to sanction you, they say.
Sanction.
Well, that's a pretty weak statement.
Putin is saying, oh, they're going to sanction me.
They sanctioned me for the last 25 years.
You mean I can take over a whole country?
Are they going to sanction me?
You mean they're not going to blow us to pieces, at least psychologically?
The problem is not that Putin is smart.
which of course he's smart, but the real problem is that our leaders are dumb.
100% correct. It's funny that people accuse Donald Trump of being prideful, haughty, irresponsible,
reckless, boastful. He's demonstrating a great deal of wisdom and humility in this statement,
wisdom and humility that our current leaders don't have. Ironically, it's our current leaders.
Joe Biden, not the least of them, who are demonstrating the haughtiness, the recklessness, the irresponsibility in underestimating Vladimir Putin.
Ukraine is in this situation today because Western leaders for a long time, but mostly Democrats and especially Joe Biden, underestimated Vladimir Putin.
Donald Trump is giving the devil as do. He's saying, no, look, this guy, he's clever, he's smart, he's going to pursue what he feels to be in the national interest of Russia.
he's got Cajones, you got to give him that, he's got Cajonies, he's not, he is going to call
NATO's bluff, he's going to call the American bluff and we're not going to do anything about it.
We're not even going to institute real sanctions.
We're going to put little fake sanctions on Russia that won't do a damn thing to really
gut their economy.
If you really wanted to get their economy, you could put much stiffer sanctions.
Obviously on the energy industry, on specific oligarchs who were holding Vladimir Putin's
money, but they're not exactly doing that, at least not yet. Our leaders are dumb. They're so
dumb. Our leaders are so dumb. They are making the best argument to support Putin. I don't think Putin is
making a very good argument to support Putin. Putin is a sort of cartoonishly villainous figure,
and he's now invading this country, and the war is obviously being brought by him. I don't think
it's very complicated as to who is bringing this war. And yet, Western leaders are so stupid.
that they have to clutch defeat from the jaws of victory, even on the publicity front.
Why would anyone? Why would anyone support Vladimir Putin in this war?
Richard Moore, the head of MI6, the British spy agency, he actually gave us an answer.
He gave people a reason. He tweeted out over the weekend, quote,
with the tragedy and destruction unfolding so distressingly in Ukraine, we should remember the values
and hard-won freedoms that distinguish us from Putin, none more than LGBT plus rights.
So let's resume our series of tweets to mark LGBTIHM. Is that history month? I thought that was October
and whatever. 2022. If the only thing, if the main thing that distinguishes us from Vladimir Putin,
is that we trans the kids?
Pass the vodka, man.
That's it.
Are you kidding me?
You're going to have half of this country go sign up for the Red Army,
if that's the thing that distinguishes.
Transgenderism is what distinguishes us from Putin?
That's the best you've got?
Oh my gosh, these people.
It makes me feel a little bit better, actually.
I'm sometimes tempted to believe that the world is actually run by just a secret cabal of the intelligence agencies.
is there's a fair bit of evidence to that effect.
You know, the CIA and MI6, and the thing that makes me believe that isn't true
is how stupid the heads of these intelligence agencies are.
It's like this guy is Putin's publicist.
Let's find one of the worst things that the West is doing, you know, transing the kids.
One of the worst things we've ever done, frankly,
we're mutilating little kids because of a false anthropology and convincing little boys
that they're little girls. And we're going to say that that is the very best thing that we're doing
and the only thing or the chief thing that distinguishes us from our enemies. Yeah, that'll do it.
You're going to have people turning in their AR-15s for Kalashnikovs. Good grief. Good grief.
Speaking of British propaganda, this is a story from last week. I didn't get to it, but it actually
fits in much better with what we're talking about today. The queen has COVID. This is a very sad thing.
I love the queen. She is a very nice German lady. She is one of the last sensible, distinguished,
noble people in Europe or greater Europe, Britain. And she's one of the last vestiges of a government
that's not completely insane in the West. She's got COVID. She's very old. So I hope she comes out of it.
There was a media report about her COVID diagnosis. I will describe it. I will describe it.
as it plays in case you're listening to this. But there's a very little inconvenient fact that the
reporters put into this news report. People in the 90s are a significant danger of the bad
outcomes of COVID. It's true. Dr. Makesh Haikowal says a COVID patient, the Queen's Age
should be isolating and might benefit from new medicines currently approved for high-risk patients at
Australian hospitals. Soto-Vimab. These tablets or stromactol, which
She's, wait, hold on, my pause?
Hold on.
So the first one was just some kind of medicine.
Go back a little bit.
Hold on a second.
Stromectal, prescription only three milligrams, four tablets each containing three milligrams of ivermectin.
Oopsie, daisy.
I was told that ivermectin is a horse dewormer.
Ivermec.
The queen is taking horse dewormer?
Man, she's dumber than Joe Rogan.
Why, man, that's so crazy. Does the queen fight in UFC? She must be smoking a lot of pot, too.
She's probably a crazy Alex Jones conspiracy theorist. That's weird. In a news report about how the queen at her advanced stage would benefit from some therapeutics to fight off the coronavirus, they include ivermectin. Now, if you try to find that clip right now, you won't succeed because the public health establishment got very upset. The powers that be, the sensors got very upset when it came out.
and they took the clip down. And the news, the news organization edited it, took it out.
What they said was, this is according to Snopes, the network played some B-roll footage that showed
a package of stromectal, a brand name version of ivermectin, which accidentally, accidentally
insinuated that the queen was using this drug. The network has since apologized and explained that
the footage shown should not have shown Soto-Sotrovimab, or should have shown rather Sotrovimab,
which it already did, and approved COVID-19 medication, not stromectol.
Okay, so it's not real. Don't believe you're lying eyes. It's all fake. We're sorry. The news organization said we're really, really sorry. The queen is definitely not taking Ivermectin. You know, Ivermectin, that very well-known drug that has been used and prescribed to humans for many years now, the discoverer of which won the Nobel Prize. You know that, but that in the last 18 months was just called horsy-wormer and you're not even allowed to prescribe it anymore. Yeah.
Do you know that drug that lots of people who have COVID have taken? Yeah, the queen's totally not taking that.
And you can believe them because these are the same people who told you about the ghost of Kiev
and the Snake Island Massacre and all of the other propaganda that just is not true at all.
Listen, they might have been lying with all of their other propaganda, but this time they're totally telling the truth.
I would never, hey, hey, YouTube censors, I would never insinuate that the queen is a
obviously taking Ivermectin and that the news report was right and that now they're pretending
that it was wrong because of the pressure from you guys. I wouldn't insinuate that. Why would I insinuate
that? I believe anything that the ruling elites tell me. Of course, they're always right and they
would never lie to us, right? Isn't that the case? I'm not so sure. There is some good news
coming out of the United Kingdom, though. The good news is that the UK will be lifting all remaining
COVID restrictions. Boris Johnson announced, quote, we will remove all remaining domestic restrictions
in law from this Thursday, the 24th of February. We will end the legal requirement to self-isolate
following a positive test. We will end routine contact tracing and no longer ask fully vaccinated
close contacts and those under 18 to test daily for seven days. We will remove the legal requirement
for close contacts who are not fully vaccinated to self-isolate. Great stuff. I love that. That's really good
news. It's not just good news coming out of a nominally conservative, but actually effectively
pretty liberal government in the United Kingdom. It's coming out of private corporations,
woke corporations, super leftist American corporations. Google is dropping their vaccine mandate.
Really, really good news. Google has announced they are dropping social distancing requirements
and masks for vaccinated employees in most areas. They are going to have a few cities that
that will still require masks, but they're likely to drop those soon. Unvaccinated employees who
are approved to enter offices will still need to follow some additional protocols, but basically
Google's going back to normal. You're seeing this in lots of cities around America, even left-wing
cities, they're dropping the mask requirements. They're dropping the vaccine requirements.
It's over. Why? Why is it over? It's over because it's election season. It's not over because
COVID's gone. It's not over because we're getting to COVID zero. Remember, that's what the
libs told us for a while. When we get to zero cases, zero transmission, that's when we'll get rid of it.
No, actually, what they originally told us was two weeks to slow the spread. That was two years ago.
What day is it? February 28th. This all started on March 16th, 2020. We are two weeks away
from two years of this. And they kept moving the goalposts all the time. And it was slow the spread,
then flatten the curve, then find a cure, then get the jab, then get the jab, then get the jab,
get like three more jabs, then you got to stop the surge again. There was another surge of the
amicron or the delta or the whatever, and it was going to go on forever. And people pushed back,
and it killed the ruling class in the polls. And then all of a sudden, poof like magic,
the science changed, and we get to get rid of the masks and the vaccine mandates. Why did this
happen? Ties right in with what we're talking about on the show today. Because the people
stopped believing the propaganda.
The very concerted propaganda effort
of our ruling class,
not just the government,
but the corporations and the media
and Big Tech and all of it.
Okay.
When it gets to something like the queen,
is the queen taking Ivermectin or not?
I don't know. What do I know? I don't know. I'm not her doctor.
I don't see the queen's prescriptions.
It is not necessary,
it's similar to what I said at the top of the show. It's not necessarily the case that the
queen is taking ivermectin for her COVID. But it is certainly the case that we have no reason
to believe that the queen is not taking ivermectin for her COVID because we can't trust these
people. This is another thing that's really, really weird about the Ukraine-Russia war that's
different than some of the other wars that we've had in the last 25, 30 years. You've got nations that are
not really united in any way. Say what you will about George Bush or the wars in the Middle East,
but at least when we went in to Afghanistan in particular, but even Iraq, the nation was broadly
in favor of it. Almost all of the Democrats voted for the Iraq War and the Republicans were
pushing the Iraq War. The New York Times was pushing the Iraq War, right? Everyone was kind of
of in on it. Now, we are much less united than we were. We don't really trust our institutions.
We don't trust our elections. The Republicans don't believe in the 2020 election, in large part.
The Democrats don't believe in the 2016 election. The Democrats don't even really believe in
the 2000 election. We are not united. And so the war is a little difficult to process.
There's a
there's a caveat here
to the way that we're trying to understand
the Ukraine-Russia war.
I think that there are some people
on the right in the United States
who are tempted
to really admire Vladimir Putin.
I'll give you the reasons why.
Well, Trump says he's smart.
He is looking after his nation.
Vladimir Putin ain't no citizen of the world, that's for sure.
Vladimir Putin is interested in Russia.
and expanding Russia. And there are a lot of Americans who wish that American leaders were much more
interested in defending America's borders than they are borders around the world. That would be one reason.
What's another reason? Vladimir Putin's not woke. Okay, say what you will about the man. He ain't woke,
okay? And Vladimir Putin has been using state money to build beautiful cathedrals in Russia. He built
that beautiful cathedral just a few years ago. What do we build in America? We build drag queen story hour
venues. What is Russia building big cathedrals? That's something,
I understand why some people might like that sort of thing. There's something, though, that the
admirers of Vladimir Putin are missing, which is Vladimir Putin doesn't like us. Okay, Vladimir Putin
does not care about cultural battles in the United States. He's not on the side of conservatives.
He's not rooting for us to win. It's actually a product of liberalism, I think, that we believe
that all of our political battles in the United States just translate exactly perfectly to
political battles in Ukraine or Russia or China or anywhere else. It's a product of globalism,
actually, that makes us believe that our political concerns here in America are exactly,
can be perfectly mapped on to what's going on in Russia or Eastern Europe or Asia or wherever.
But that's not the case. Vladimir Putin doesn't care about American conservatives. He doesn't
care about American liberals. He doesn't like America. He views America as its adversary,
and he's trying to counter America and counter NATO, particularly in these battlegrounds in
Eastern Europe. The trick for us is how do we here in the West get control back of our own
governments? Because I don't think that our own establishment, I don't think our governments
like us either. Nobody likes us is the problem. Vladimir Putin doesn't like us. The ruling
a class in America and the West more broadly doesn't like us. The ruling class in the West
thinks that we're neo-Nazis, thinks that we're Bull Connor, thinks that we're hate-filled, awful,
terrible people who just need to go away and die. And we need to go die of COVID, like that
teacher said. That teacher was caught on a hidden camera said that we played last week.
We're just, Oprah Winfrey said this on television. She said, you know, some of those
backwards conservative, they just need to die. Okay, they just need to go die. Joe Biden said
just a few weeks ago, half the country's awful terror. So nobody's really sticking up for us,
and it makes us think, well, I don't, I don't like Biden. I don't like my ruling class. So am I
supposed to, no, I don't really like Putin. I don't know anything about Ukraine. I don't, you know,
Socrates was one of the smartest men in the history of the world because he knew that he knew
nothing. I think that is what is required now. When we're talking about this Ukraine issue,
reading a think piece on it and following the Twitter trends and watching videos supposedly
about the coast of Kiev, does it not make you an expert on Ukrainian policy? Now, I'm preaching to the
choir in a way here. I think that generally the conservatives, the more independent-minded people,
even in the center, and independent-minded liberals, they know all this. Okay, you guys know all of this.
But the mindless automatons who are just taking all the propaganda that they are fed,
they do not know. They do not know all of this at all. And it can really lead to some pretty
disastrous results. I give you just one anecdote of this. In California, a woman tried to get on a bus.
Public bus. She wanted to get on the bus. She was turned away from the bus because she didn't have a
mask on. She then was run over by the bus. But at least she didn't get COVID. She was run over,
tragically killed. Lucy Prieto Frescas, 59 years old. This is a young woman. Tried to get on the bus,
turned away. Somehow she fell underneath the
bus and was run over. This is the perfect analogy for our COVID regime. People driven crazy
by absurd propaganda forced into their heads for two years straight are now doing much more harm
than good. The lockdown measures have always been doing more harm than good. Some of us called
this two years ago. But it's certainly the case now. We in the West, what we have done,
a cold, out of fear of a cough, have thrown our citizens literally under the bus. It's sad that this
real life tragedy is such a good analogy, but it is. Speaking of California, there are some signs
that things are improving, at least on the right. Kevin McCarthy is the House Minority Leader.
He's the Republican Leader in the House of Representatives. Kevin McCarthy, just through his
former colleague Liz Cheney under the bus, Liz Cheney was in Republican leadership. Can you
imagine that. It shows you how bad off the Republican Party is. Liz Cheney was in Republican leadership
and she spent all of her time going on CNN, talking to the Washington Post, attacking Republicans
and conservatives. Now, Kevin McCarthy, her leader, has endorsed her primary challenger,
Harriet Higman. That's good. That's a good sign. The people who like Liz Cheney are
Democrats exclusively. And so from a tactical standpoint, even for maybe the moderates or the
independents or whatever, who are, they're kind of more liberal, but maybe they'd consider
voting for her. He's like, maybe, okay, maybe we should go with Liz Cheney, right? Maybe she can
appeal to more people because she's more in the middle, even more a little bit on the left.
She won't appeal to more people. She'll appeal to nobody. That is propaganda. Liz Cheney
appeals to people who will never vote for a Republican. She is the Republican where Democrats say,
you know, I could vote for that kind of Republican, but they, maybe they could, but they wouldn't.
They would always choose the Democrat over her. We have been fed this kind of propaganda,
we on the right in America, for decades. Well, you better nominate John McCain because Democrats
could vote for that kind of Republican. Yeah, they could, but they won't. Yeah, you should vote for
Mitt Romney. You should nominate Mitt Romney. Democrats could vote for that Republican.
Republican, except they won't, except they won't do it. Okay, there has been, there's a huge
amount of waking up. There's a little bit of a paradox. We live in an age where propaganda is so
easy to produce and it's so easy to produce it at a very high level, that actually, I think
a lot of people are waking up to it. They're seeing through it. They're saying, wait a second,
if I can't even believe a video that I'm watching because it was likely manipulated, what can I
believe? We are headed for a very, very messy period politically. Internationally, you're already
seeing that happen. Domestically, you're seeing that happen, too. The only way out is through.
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