The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 96 - Amnesty For 3.6 Million? Keep Dreaming

Episode Date: January 30, 2018

Two 'Dreamers' are arrested in California for human trafficking. We analyze Democrat dreams of amnesty and electoral dominance point by point, number by number. Then, Philip Wegmann, Erielle Davidson,... and Amber Athey join the Panel of Deplorables to discuss the State of the Union throughout history, the six Democrat State of the Union rebuttals this year, and Democrats sacramental view of late-term abortion. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Amnesty or no amnesty. That is the question. Whether tis nobler in the minds of voters to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous headlines, or to take arms against a CNN of troubles, and by amnesty and them. Amnesty, amnesty, perchance more dreamers. Ah, there's the rub. For in that lawless pandering, more dreamers may come when we have shuffled off this constitutional order. That must give us pause. Two DACA illegal aliens, so-called dreamers, according to Democrats, have been arrested in separate incidents for human trafficking in my own sunny state of California. One arrest occurred last Wednesday when Tori Pines Beach resident called the cops for suspected trafficking. Borders agents found the driver, a 20-year-old dreamer, as well as two Mexican nationals when he was smuggling them in his car. Another 22-year-old illegal alien, also a dreamer by Democrat Lights, was arrested in Campo, California. also for charges related to human trafficking. California Dreaming means you won't be safe as long as you're in L.A.
Starting point is 00:01:06 All of this comes as Democrats in Congress desperately try to ram through a bill to legalize on the low end 800,000 illegal aliens brought to the U.S. as children, but far more likely upwards of 3.6 million illegal aliens. We will analyze Democrat dreams of amnesty and electoral dominance point-by-point-by-lie. Then Philip Wegman, Ariel Davidson, and Amber Athea, join the panel of deplorables to discuss the State of the Union throughout history, the six Democrat state of the union rebuttals this year, six, probably more by the time I finish this show,
Starting point is 00:01:36 and Democrats' sacramental view of late-term abortion. I'm Michael Knowles, and this is the Michael Knowles Show. So much to get to today. The trouble with euphemisms is that eventually reality catches up with them, and then you get the Chico Marx line, who you're going to believe, me or your own eyes, your own lion eyes. Democrats have labeled a massive group of illegal aliens, dreamers, and they're only referring to illegal aliens brought to the United States when they were minors.
Starting point is 00:02:09 No fault of their own, they say. They're their parents' fault. These are the people unconstitutionally protected by Barack Obama's DACA program. The trouble with DACA is that it only protects a certain group of illegal aliens brought to the U.S. as minors. It only protects those who were born after June 15, 1981, have lived in the U.S. continuously since June 15, 2007, and registered for the program between June 2012 and September 2017. Trouble is that covers nowhere near all of the illegal aliens brought to the U.S. as children. Steny Hoyer, Democrats' House Minority Whip, even admitted as much when he pointed out that the euphemism Dreamer and the technical term DACA recipient are not a distinction without a difference.
Starting point is 00:02:52 There is a difference between those two things. Democrats want to pretend there aren't. Two weeks ago, USA Today gave the Fuller story. The real number of illegal aliens brought over as children is around 3.6 million, four and a half times as many as Democrats. in all of their legislative maneuvering. That is an estimated third of all illegal aliens in the U.S. and that doesn't count the millions of immediate family members who are already citizens. That's a convenient omission, since amnesty for the dreamers would be a dream come true for Democrats. According to Pew Research, Hispanics are five times as likely to identify with the Democrat Party as with the GOP.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Even among registered voters, the trend holds. There are well over four times as many Hispanic voters registered with the government. Democrats as with Republicans, even for Hispanics who don't identify with either party, they are two and a quarter times more likely to lean toward Democrats. Native-born Hispanics are 4.4 times as likely to identify with Democrats. Foreign-born Hispanics are 5.6 times as likely to identify with Democrats. And that includes Cubans who are Republicans, my favorite group of immigrants, the Cubans, because they bring good cigars and culture and vote for Republicans, that even includes them
Starting point is 00:04:02 in that number. Ronald Reagan used to say that Hispanics are Republicans, they just don't know it yet. That's because they work hard and go to church, two traits that are anathema to Democrats. He may have been right. Hispanics born in the U.S. are slightly less likely to identify with Democrats as those who are born outside the U.S. But the data show it's still going to take a long time for Hispanic voters to realize that they're Republicans. And if we're going to give amnesty to 3.6 million new likely Democrat voters, there may not be a Republican. party around by the time they do realize it. There are some interesting data among how party
Starting point is 00:04:38 affiliation changes over time. So foreign-born Hispanics who've been here less than 10 years are just under three times as likely to identify Democrat. Probably because they got here during Barack Obama's terrible administration and they realized his party has nothing to offer to the country other than division and envy. That number, though, jumps way up to 8.75 times as many Hispanics who've lived in the U.S. for 10 to 14 years identifying as Democrat, 8.7, 5 times as likely. That number holds around 8.2 times as many Hispanics who've lived here 15 to 19 years identifying as Democrat. Then it drops back down a little bit to a still terrifying 5.4 times as many Hispanics who've lived in the U.S. for 20 years or more, identifying as Democrats as
Starting point is 00:05:25 those who identify as Republicans. Well over five times as many identifying as Democrats. you slice it? Amnesty means electoral death for Republicans. Democrats even admit as much, that's why they want it so bad. Earlier this month, a memo leaked from the Center for American Progress Action Fund, explaining that amnesty for illegal aliens constitutes, quote, a critical component of the Democratic Party's future electoral success. That memo was co-authored by former Hillary Clinton Communications Director Jennifer Palmieri, and it was sent around to allies calling on Democrats to, quote, refuse to offer any votes for Republican-speople. spending bills that do not offer a fix for dreamers and instead appropriate funds to deport them.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Barack Obama's former domestic policy director, Cecilia Munoz, insists, quote, the right policies to be as generous as possible. We know the success of DACA. It's good for the country, and this has overwhelming support from around the country, from people on both sides of the aisle. There's no reason to limit who is eligible. Typically for an Obama policy advisor, absolutely nothing she said is true.
Starting point is 00:06:32 According to a late 2017 poll by Morning Consultant Politico, Politico, it's a fake news organization and I just pronounce their name wrong. So that's fake news of fake news. But according to Morning Consultant Politico, Politico leans left, by the way. But even according to them, just 29% of Americans say giving illegal aliens brought to the U.S. under the age of 18, giving them amnesty should be a policy priority. Just 29%. 71% of Americans
Starting point is 00:07:01 do not want amnesty. Incredibly, just 44% of Democrat voters say amnesty for DACA recipients should be a priority for Congress to say nothing about the 2.8 million additional illegal aliens who would receive amnesty through any real DACA deal, any real deal that's on the table. That means that even the majority of Democrats
Starting point is 00:07:20 oppose amnesty even for the Dreamers and the DACA and the people brought here as children. In recent years, the U.S. foreign-born population has also reached record highs, hitting 43.2 million in 2015. So anybody who tells you, we don't let immigrants in, we're not letting any immigrants in, we have a terrible policy on immigration,
Starting point is 00:07:40 that isn't true. We are at record highs. That number has steadily climbed since 1965 when famed drunk driver, Ted Kennedy, sponsored legislation replacing the national quota system with our currently incoherent immigration regime. Since that time, the number of immigrants living in the United States has more than quadrupled.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Since that Kennedy law, Ted Kennedy, one of the worst politicians in American history, since his law, the number of immigrants living in the U.S. has more than quadrupled. Immigrants today account for 13.4% of the total U.S. population, triple the immigrant share of the U.S. population that we had in 1970. The only time the foreign-born percentage of the population was this high, was in 1890, after a half-century period that gave us four and a half million Irish immigrants, including many wonderful families, including my wonderful family, and also the Kennedys. Lest our opposition to amnesty be considered excessively partisan,
Starting point is 00:08:36 remember that amnesty is a terrible idea on constitutional and humanitarian grounds as well. Barack Obama's executive amnesty, which kicked off this entire debate about the dreamers, is unconstitutional. Any way you slice it, it's unconstitutional. The president does not have the authority to sort of, subvert democratically enacted immigration law. He doesn't have the authority to erase the national borders of the United States. And obviously, it goes without saying, he does not have the right to illegally fill the country with people who are exceedingly likely to vote for his own party.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Now, as a matter of federal spending and taxpayer resources, we're told immigrants are great for the country. They might be great for the country, but on those grounds, not so. Immigrant-led households are far more likely than native-led households to receive welfare. According to a study by the Center for Immigration Studies, which advocates lower levels of immigration to the U.S., the majority of immigrant-led households receive at least one kind of welfare benefit, which could include any number of them because we have way too many federal welfare programs, but it could include Medicaid, food stamps, housing assistance, school lunches, on and on and on.
Starting point is 00:09:43 That number drops to just 30% for households led by Native-born Americans. The numbers increase for houses with children, but the comparison still holds. 76% of immigrant-led households with children receive welfare compared with 52% of native-led households with children. So you might say those numbers are far too high all around. Of course, that's a good argument for shrinking the government. Fortunately, the Trump administration is doing just that, but the trend still holds. Anybody who tells you otherwise, not telling the truth. How about on crime? We're told that illegal aliens don't commit a lot of crime.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Those numbers are not true. According to a study from the Crime Prevention Research Center by John R. Lott, just in Arizona alone, illegal aliens are 142% more likely to be convicted of a crime than other Arizonans. Of course, the act of crossing into a country illegally itself is a very serious crime that profoundly disrespects the target country, but even putting that one aside,
Starting point is 00:10:41 illegal aliens also tend to commit more serious crimes here. They serve 10.5% longer sentences, sentences. They're more likely to be classified as dangerous. They are 45% more likely to be gang members than U.S. citizens, even adjusting for the fact that young people commit crime at higher rates, because that's what we're told. We're told, well, most of these people are young, young people commit crime at higher rates. That's how you explain those statistics. But even controlling for that, young illegal aliens commit crime at twice the rate of young U.S. citizens. Lott also notes that these numbers likely underestimate the share of crime committed
Starting point is 00:11:15 by illegal aliens. The federal government notoriously is very opaque on releasing illegal alien crime numbers, but according to the GAO, there was a 40% and 25% increase, respectively, in criminal alien incarcerations in state jails and prisons between 2003 and 2009. Perhaps the most damning statistic of all actually comes from the other side. It comes from left-wing outlets, fusion and the Huffington Post. According to a fusion investigation, 80% of women and girls crossing into the U.S. by way of Mexico are raped during the journey. 80%. Four out of five women and girls who cross via Mexico, illegally into the U.S., are raped on their
Starting point is 00:11:57 journey. That is up from a previous estimate of 60% given by Amnesty International. But Democrats don't care about that. They don't care about any of that. They care about one thing, and that's winning elections. And ironically, so egregiously, they demagogue us and they call people who are conservative bigots and racists and meanies and whatever they call us for pointing out what is clearly in front of our face. Democrats Senate Majority Leader, Senate Minority Leader, thank goodness,
Starting point is 00:12:25 Chuck Schumer typifies Democrats' take on this issue. People who enter the United States without our permission are illegal aliens and illegal aliens should not be treated the same as people who entered the U.S. legally. The president's decision to end DACA was heartless and it was brainless. When we use phrases like undocumented workers, we convey a message to the American people that their government is not serious about combating illegal immigration. Hundreds, hundreds of thousands of families will be ripped apart. Now, I know you might have been confused because you heard Chuck Schumer the same guy speaking both of those times. But that was old Chuck Schumer when it was politically advantageous to him to pretend that he didn't want to give amnesty to all of the illegal aliens.
Starting point is 00:13:09 and then now he can be honest about his opinion and say, yes, we need to give amnesty, because then we'll win all of the elections. Quite the turnaround. But then the possibility of finally wiping out the GOP entirely is a strong incentive to evolve on the issue. Country be damned. Let's get to our panel to see what they think about this. We have Philip Wegman. We have Ariel Davidson.
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Starting point is 00:16:31 even for illegal aliens brought here under the age of 18. This was very shocking for me to read those numbers. Why has this shift occurred? Well, I think that there is general support for finding a solution to the Dreamer situation on both the left and the right side of the aisle since 2000 for crying out loud. Republicans and Democrats have said that they're going to do something about this. Now President Trump has actually put forward a deal. He's asking for about $25 billion for border security,
Starting point is 00:16:59 five more than what Chuck Schumer offered immediately before the shutdown, and he's offering amnesty for about 1.8 million dreamers. So the question now is you've got a president who campaigned on one single issue, which was border security, are Democrats going to take him up on this offer? Because, frankly, he's already getting pressure from his flank from conservatives on this one. So I don't think Democrats will ever get a better deal than this. It isn't an incredible deal.
Starting point is 00:17:27 And you're right. People, they always want a solution. We just want to do something. We want to fix it. But we also know when you dig down into those numbers, even the majority of Democrats don't support amnesty as a priority. Right. So is there any, has there been a shift in public opinion
Starting point is 00:17:45 that doesn't match the shift in the political negotiations that's going on? Well, as far as public opinion goes, I mean, it's pretty clear that this was the motivating issue for President Trump on the campaign trail. And you were talking a second ago about, and how there are some negative opinions surrounding that policy. I think the reason why Republicans are willing to move forward with amnesty for this 1.8 million dreamers is because they won an end to chain migration and also the Visa Lottery program
Starting point is 00:18:12 as a result. They're thinking we can have this compromise if in the long term we can stop the flow. And so they've put Democrats in a really difficult position. President Trump has got to deliver that message tonight. If they could end chain migration and build the wall and actually limit this, even to 1.8 million. It's looking through the future, it's possibly okay, their GOP could possibly weather that storm.
Starting point is 00:18:35 But if it gets up to 3.6 million or something, if like in the 80s they don't actually follow through border security, could be dicey. Ariel, is the solution here just to not give them amnesty? Just that we not deport them, not that we have to deport millions of people, but just not give them amnesty. Why can't we just do that? Well, I think what's going to happen is
Starting point is 00:18:55 it's going to continue to be a political football. So if we don't address it, you know, at least when we have a Republican in office, which is our best possible scenario. So I look at this situation and sort of, you know, let's capitalize on the fact that we have a Republican in office. Because I guarantee if we do have a Democrat in office and they are the ones to address the dreamer situation, it could be entirely different. I think there's also a level of cognitive dissonance taking place on the Democratic Party. You have this sort of, you know, they called. So when this DACA deal was offered, you know, there were still cries that this deal was racist. And then you have, you know, this falls a long line of the Democrats sort of just poo-pooing anything that comes out of, anything that comes out of the GOP brainchild.
Starting point is 00:19:39 So, you know, the tax reform was even though people are getting $1,000 bonuses, you've still had people on the left calling it crumbs. You know, the 20-week abortion ban, which a majority of Americans would have supported, you had people. on the left, especially politicians, the left calling it radical. So there's definitely some ways in which, when you just asked Phil earlier about how, you know, how is the Overton window shifted, I do think there's some level of, there's a dissonance between how far left the progressive element, how far left the progressive element of the Democratic Party has gone, and how far left the actual American population is. And I think we're going to start to see that increase, especially on deals when it comes to DACA. I mean, you had various senators
Starting point is 00:20:20 grandstanding on it saying, this is my number one priority. How can your number one priority be illegal citizens and not the citizens you serve? So to me, that is completely reprehensible. And that's pointing to a larger issue than the Democratic Party as a whole. Absolutely right. It's an amazing thing to go to your constituents and say the main thing that I'm concerned about is everybody but you. Everybody but you ranks higher on my list of priorities than you do.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Amber, nobody wants to deport people. That is an unpleasant business. It's kind of icky. It doesn't look good in the headlines. But this is our country we're talking about. This is our right to self-governance. And this is 3.6 million people. Is the responsible thing here to enforce our laws and just deport them,
Starting point is 00:21:04 like President Trump said at various points on the campaign trail? Well, look, the right or responsible thing to do isn't always popular. I mean, my number one choice wouldn't be to just deport millions of people. Not only is it not entirely feasible, but it's obviously not the nice thing to do. But when we're talking about border security and illegal immigration, we have to consider the consequences of our actions and the consequences of not enforcing our immigration laws. And a huge side effect of DACA was that in 2012 we had a humanitarian crisis on the border where a bunch of young, unaccompanied minors were crossing being left at the border,
Starting point is 00:21:43 crossing the border on their own in incredibly dangerous situations, sometimes being sold into human trafficking, drug trafficking rings, or joining gangs. So we have to consider what exactly the side effects are when we grant amnesty to people who decided to cross the border in dangerous conditions and illegally. And so that's one of the things that I think President Trump should consider when he's making a deal with the Democrats. That's right. It's funny because there are so many hysterical news cycles. They seem to come every 24 hours that we forget this major event that happened just a few years ago. Absolutely right. Now we have much more news to talk about.
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Starting point is 00:27:05 All right, panel, in other news, Democrats are thrilled that they have successfully blocked a law preventing late-term abortion on babies who can feel pain. Good job, Democrats. You should feel really proud of yourself, huh? Upon blocking this bill and sending untold scores of late-term pain-capable babies to certain death, Chuck Schumer high-fived fellow Democrat Heidi Heitkamp. Philip, according to a merest poll from late 2017, the majority of American women support outlawing abortion in 99% of cases. Now, this doesn't have to do with how they identify pro-life or pro-choice kind of malleable euphemisms.
Starting point is 00:27:39 When you get down to the brass tax and the bones of abortion, the majority of women oppose virtually all abortions. Why are Democrat lawmakers so insistent on keeping late-term abortion legal? Well, because Democrats simply don't care about popular opinion when it comes to abortion. Their abortion orthodoxy is unbending, and they are going to make certain that the United States stays in the company of other nations, which allow third trimester abortions, nations like North Korea and China. And this is really unfortunate because they often do this to their,
Starting point is 00:28:09 their own political detriment. I mean, DNC Chairman Tom Perez found this out earlier in the summer. He was going across the country trying to do this soul-searching tour to get back in touch with real America. I think he's still looking, by the way. I think that soul-searching toward it and turn up too much. Yeah, but he stops in Nebraska, right? And he runs across this guy named Heath Mello, who is a pro-life Democrat who's running for
Starting point is 00:28:35 mayor of Omaha because in order to be the... mayor of Omaha, you have to be pro-life. He endorses him and then 24 hours later, he's brought to his knees by Democratic donors who say that this is completely reprehensible. You have to be pro-choice to be Democrat. And even when it's to their own detriment, they insist on following up with this. But I think that the pro-life Democrat is actually going to make a comeback. And I think we saw this the other day with the Payne Capable Act. You had Democrats like Joe Mansion of Indiana actually vote. vote for the legislation because they know, well, they're from states that are deep red and that Trump want. And if they're going to make a pitch to religious or evangelical voters come November,
Starting point is 00:29:20 you know, they need to be able to say that they're somewhat pro-life. So I think the pro-life Democrat might be coming back. There's a very good shot. Joe Manchin. I'll, you said to Indiana, I think you went West Virginia. Oh, Joe Donnelly. Joe Donnelly. You're saying Joe Donnelly. But Manchin, I see how you get them confused because Joe Manchin is another one. who's this, he's the last blue dog left in the country, and you wonder, are these guys going to go completely extinct, or in order to win elections, or Democrats going to have to come back and contravene
Starting point is 00:29:51 their fanatical orthodoxy a little bit? Ariel, will Democrat lawmakers have to answer for this come election time, or will this not matter with their constituencies? Hyde camp is from North Dakota, which tilts in favor of abortion. You know, will there be any consequences for them? or, as Philip predicts, will there be a return of the pro-life Democrat or are they going the way to the dodo? Well, I think there will be consequences for individuals, like for instance, Doug Jones. So he was just as bad as we thought he was going to be, and he voted in favor of not passing this ban.
Starting point is 00:30:26 And so when he won the special election in Alabama, you know, there were lots of people on the right and the left who said, you know what? Don't be hysterical about Doug Jones. he's not as bad as we think he is when it comes to abortion. He is just as bad as we thought he was going to be. Not to mention you have individuals like Lisa Markowski, Susan Collins, both Republicans from Alaska and Maine, respectively, who both voted against the ban as well. And they've been a perpetual headache for the GOP in general,
Starting point is 00:30:54 so that really didn't shock me everything from Obamacare and whatnot. They've been a tremendous headache when it comes to voting. But in general, do I think we're going to see repercussions of this? perhaps for individuals like Doug Jones, who are sort of a smaller revival, potentially of the Southern Democrat, he will have to answer for it because I don't think that was in line with it all what his constituents would have wanted in Alabama in particular. It happens to be a very pro-life heavy state, and I applaud voters who respond to that, to those type of votes and say, you know what, we don't want those type elected officials making that type of decision. So, you know, I don't know. I'm cautious to say that there's going to be a revival of the Southern Democrat. But I just don't see it as being as much of a priority for the left as it is for the right.
Starting point is 00:31:41 And Doug Jones is a good example because he only won that election because of the gross incompetence of Republicans in that state, national Republicans, and guys like Luther Strange who didn't find these sorted stories about Roy Moore and 20. try to push them and Roy Moore who couldn't fight those stories. And obviously Steve Bannon, you know, it was pilloried for losing Alabama for Republicans. But as a result now of that, Doug Jones is going to have to answer because Alabama hasn't completely flipped overnight. The State of the Union is tonight, everybody. What began as a sober affair during which the president would present remarks to Congress
Starting point is 00:32:23 has now turned into a televised circus. Warren Harding was the first president to broadcast the address on the radio. Truman was the first to be televised. Reagan began the practice of inviting special guests, military law enforcement, that sort of thing. It worked so phenomenally well, everybody has copied him since, as is true of most of the Reagan administration. Barack Obama famously used to address,
Starting point is 00:32:45 I used the address, rather, to criticize the Supreme Court. While the Supreme Court could not do anything in response, they had to sit there like puppets, other than the great hero, Sam Alito, who just shook his head and said no. Antonin Scalia famously boycotted the state of the Union, because it is a frivolous parade. Amber, is it time to end this circus,
Starting point is 00:33:03 or is it good for the American people to see these remarks, regardless of how silly they appear? I think circus is exactly the right word. And, you know, I've already heard so many liberal media pundits complaining that the state of the union is going to be boring because President Trump is going to read a scripted speech.
Starting point is 00:33:23 And I think it's really funny to finally have them admit that the way that Trump speaks from the heart and the way that he usually addresses his constituents is actually really not only entertaining but just really gripping. So that's been interesting to see on Twitter and on TV and the like. Now, the Democratic response, I think, is going to be the really interesting part of the State of the Union tonight because they have none other than a Kennedy delivering the response to Trump's state of the Union, proving that they learned absolutely nothing from the 2016 election, because they've chosen yet another establishment, you know, ancestral Democrats.
Starting point is 00:34:05 What's really amazing about this, too, what's amazing is that these responses to the state of the union have never gone well. For either party, they call it the curse of the state of the union response. And so who do they pick to break a curse? They pick a Kennedy. Because nobody knows how to break curse is quite like Kennedys, isn't they right? Philip, politics is a major form of American entertainment. the pioneer of reality TV to become the president himself. Does this obsession with politics as entertainment show that we've decayed as a culture,
Starting point is 00:34:37 as C.S. Lewis might describe, or is it good that Americans are so? We're so plugged into our political process. I'm sure the ratings are going to be through the roof. Well, you know, politics is definitely downstream from culture, and that's how President Trump floated into the Oval Office. He's fun to watch. I mean, if you go to a Trump rally, it's a rock concert, because everyone is excited about what he's going to say,
Starting point is 00:34:57 and everyone is kind of waiting for him to say something crazy. That's the way it is. Tonight, I think there is a little bit of frustration that he's going to be on script. But last year, during the joint address, he got rave reviews. He was incredibly presidential, especially when he was talking to the widow of that Navy seal. And I think that we'll probably see something similar. He's going to be plugging his past achievements and pitching reform on immigration. And I think he's got an opportunity to show that he's kind of the adult.
Starting point is 00:35:27 in the room when it comes to making these deals, because Democrats have just shut down the government. Quickly to bounce off what the last guest said, yeah, Democrats definitely have multiple personality disorders, and choosing Joe D. Kennedy III is just amazing. I mean, what screams more American than an Ivy League, blue-blooded, trust-fund baby? Just rich uncle penny bags the eighth.
Starting point is 00:35:54 That's going to be the next state of the union response. How could it not? Ariel, we've got to go. We have run out of time, but do you have any final thoughts on this ridiculous circus tonight? Well, Jay Koss from the Weekly Standard had a good quote.
Starting point is 00:36:09 He said the State of the Union is much too kingly for a republic. And I kind of, I err on that side when it comes to the State of the Union address. I think at one point, you know, it served purpose for updating Congress and now it has become sort of a self-aggrandizing event on behalf of the president.
Starting point is 00:36:24 That's sort of, it's like Burger Kingley. There's nothing actually. regal about it. It's so, I see the point. We are worshipping at the altar of the presidency in many ways when we watch it. But my, my problem isn't that the affair is to monarchists or something. My affair, my problem with it is it so crass and vulgar. It sends shivers on my spine. Well, yeah, I would have to agree with you on that front. But I think that at this point, you know, it is entertainment. I side with Bill. At this point, like, you know, bring it on. I'll pour a glass of wine.
Starting point is 00:36:56 I'll sit and watch it and I'll be happy to do so. In for a penny, in for a pound. So goes the Republic. Say, Levy. Okay, panel, thank you all for being here. We have Philip Wegman. We have Ariel Davidson and we have Amber Athe. That's it.
Starting point is 00:37:08 That's our entire show. Be sure to tune in. We're going to be broadcasting within just a matter of hours. I'll probably start drinking about it now. We're going to have, it'll be me. It'll be Ben. It'll be Drew. It'll be Daily Wire God King Jeremy Boring.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Can I tell them? I can't tell them. I can't tell you who the special guest are. But it's going to be a lot of fun. So make sure. you tune in. That's going to be starting just a few hours, 8 p.m. Eastern time. Do not miss it. It'll be on our Facebook, on our YouTube, on Daily Wire. Make sure to check it out there. Until tomorrow, folks, or I suppose until tonight. I'm Michael Nulls. This is the Michael Nulls Show. I will see you
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