The Michael Knowles Show - EXCLUSIVE: Speaker Johnson on Iran War, Midterms, SAVE AMERICA Act with Michael Knowles
Episode Date: March 12, 2026Michael Knowles sits down with Speaker Mike Johnson for a candid conversation on the state of the nation, key legislative battles, conservative priorities, and what's next for America under strong Rep...ublican leadership. - - - Click here to join the member-exclusive portion of my show: https://get.dailywire.com - - - DailyWire+: Become a Daily Wire Member and watch all of our content ad-free: https://dailywire.com/subscribe 📲 Download the free Daily Wire app today on iPhone, Android, Roku, Apple TV, Samsung, and more. 📘 My book "Speechless: Controlling Words, Controlling Minds" is available here: https://dwplus.shop/Speechless 🕯️ Get your Michael Knowles candles: https://thecandleclub.com/collections/michael-knowles 👕 Don’t dress like a squish. Shop my merch here: https://dwplus.shop/MichaelKnowlesMerch - - - Socials: Follow on Twitter: https://bit.ly/3RwKpq6 Follow on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3BqZLXA Follow on Facebook: https://bit.ly/3eEmwyg Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3L273Ek - - - Privacy Policy: https://www.dailywire.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Mr. Speaker, thank you for taking the time.
Thanks for being here. Appreciate it.
So there are 237 days till the midterms, but who's counting.
Typically, in an off year after a presidential election, especially if you win really big like we did last time, you face daunting odds.
Right.
The poll numbers seem to be getting worse.
There seems to be a chasm between political reality on the economy, on foreign policy, and everything in between, and perception.
Major chasm, widening chasm.
How do we fix that in 237 days?
With a big dose of reality and with a clear message,
and we're working on both of those things.
The first ingredient is to have great candidates,
and we recruited extraordinary people
to go flip blue seeds to red this cycle.
And, of course, our incumbents,
and all those who have been part of the big successes
of the last year and a half, almost,
as we go into the election cycle,
are going to be out talking about their record of success.
It truly has promises made and promises kept.
I've made the case that the first year of the Trump administration was arguably the most productive and successful in at least the modern era.
I think one of the top five in the history of Congress, and I'm a student of all this, because of all the substance and the big things that we passed and got it signed into law.
Now, there is an incredible media bias, as you know.
And the mainstream media, the legacy media, every day literally repeats almost verbatim the talking points of Chuck Schumer and the Democrats as crazy as they are.
and they try to censor and silence our viewpoint
in various ways, as you know.
And so we've got to break through that
and get the reality to the people.
So it will be a lot of direct candidate
to constituent discussion.
They're going to be doing the candidate forums
and the town halls and all that
to go out and share our message.
We gathered here at this work session,
this conference over the last couple of days
was to talk about how to do that effectively.
So look, I'm very bullish about the midterms.
I'm absolutely convinced
we are going to win the midterms
and grow the majority.
It will defy the historic trend.
It's only twice in the last 90 years
that a sitting president has picked up seats
for his party in that first two-year cycle.
But I can give you a very boring
90-minute slideshow for all the reasons
we're going to win. But it boils down
to a record of success, great candidates.
We have a fundraising advantage right now because the stakes
are so high, Republicans over Democrats,
first time in 10 years.
Democrats are at historic lows in approval rating.
They have no leadership, no message, no vision
for where they're going.
Their whole platform is that they have
hate Donald Trump. Well, good luck with that. That's not exactly something to sell to constituents.
And then we're going into a cycle where the president of the United States, the first midterm
in history, where a second term president who can't be on the ballot again is running like
he's on the ballot himself. It's going to make a big difference, big turnout difference for us.
I think in the end, as the economy begins to continue to improve, all of our policies go into effect,
I think people are going to feel better about that right about the time they go into vote.
Well, the good news I saw on the polls on the economy is that voters don't trust the Democrats on it.
But the bad news I saw is they don't trust the Republicans either.
And some of the numbers have moved in a negative direction from January to today.
Now, I wonder how much of that has to do with the recent diversion into Iran.
Oil jumping one hour, it's $150 a barrel.
Next hour, it's $85 a barrel.
How significant will the Iran war be looking at the midterms?
will be wrapped up soon. And I, you know, I talk to the president multiple times a day,
and he says the same thing privately that he's staying publicly. This is a very limited scope,
a mission, an objective. We have virtually accomplished the mission entirely, incredibly, quickly.
That was by design, just as calibrated, as is the improvements in the economy.
Scott Besson, the Treasury Secretary said a few weeks ago, he said, 2025 was sort of like
setting the table, and the feast in the banquet in the economy is going to be in 2026.
The big beautiful bill, the working film is tax cut,
of our legislation was done and signed in the law by last summer.
Remember, triumphantly, we did it on July 4th,
with B-2s flying over the White House.
That was by design, because we knew that it had to all be implemented
and take effect as we went into the midterm cycle.
To get relief to the people as soon as possible,
that is exactly what's going to happen.
Right now, people are getting bigger refunds for their taxes
because we changed the tax code and the law in their favor.
They're getting bigger paychecks, and that will continue.
So the little blip on the screen right now,
with Iran and oil prices will be very temporary and quick.
I mean, this morning, Doug Bergam and tear your secretary is out
explaining what will happen quickly to oil prices.
It's all about supply and demand.
And long term, we're going to be much better off
with some stability in Iran instead of an avowed enemy
of the United States and Israel trying to develop
nuclear weapons to wipe us off the face of the earth.
This is going to be a good thing.
So this will be a blip.
People have short memories.
And when their cost of living goes down,
which is what we're fiercely devoted to,
we have done and we'll continue to do that this year, they're going to be feeling much better
about this and it's going to be reflected in the outcome of the election.
You don't need to persuade me that the potential upside in Iran is very serious.
I mean, from the perspective of grand strategy, I totally get it, and I don't think any other
podcasters are saying that because they're all opposed to it.
And this is one of my fears looking ahead to the midterms, is the war is unpopular.
It seems to be especially unpopular with the right-wing podcasters, with the influence,
I don't know, with the new media.
And yet, one can see all of that potential upside.
So then my question is, heading in,
what does unity look like?
There's complete division among the
meta-political influencer new media set.
There seems to be substantially more unity
among the Republicans who are actually in elected office,
with some exceptions, maybe your colleague, Mr. Massey,
and others.
How's unity the party look?
We'll have to pull everybody together, going into the election,
together going into the election. We've done that on Capitol Hill. I mean, we have the smallest
margin in the U.S. history. I have a one-vote margin, which means I have to get unanimity because
the aforementioned colleague of mine votes no almost every day. So we've worked on that.
And, you know, we have a broad spectrum of opinion inside the House Republican Conference.
There's seven different major caucuses just along that conservative spectrum in there,
and I've got to get them all together. The thing that binds us together is adherence to our
core principles, and that's what we try to keep focus of all the time. I call them the seven
core principles of American conservatism. I never ask a colleague to violate core principles.
We have to give up on our preferences sometimes because it's a deliberative body with hundreds
of members, right? You're never going to get 100% of what you want. But our objective every day is to
move the product to the most conservative place that we can to gather the votes to pass it in the
law and get it to the president's desk. We've been wildly successful with that. Over 500 pieces
of legislation so far this Congress. A hundred of his executive orders codified. CRAs, the
congressional review acts, we called back a record number of crazy regulations from the previous
administration under Biden.
All that would not have been possible if we had not gotten everyone together around those core
principles.
Individual freedom, limited government, the rule of law, peace through strength, fiscal responsibility,
free markets, human dignity.
Every day we're trying to move the ball further towards those objectives, keep the party anchored
to those things, and move the country forward.
And the results of that is good policy that's good for the people, and I think it gets rewarded
at the ballot box.
will have a way, I think, of bringing everybody together.
We are not in the nation-building business.
We are not interventionalist.
We are not out trying to be the world's policemen.
No one in our party believes that.
Even the people that they call neocons are coming back to reality
because of our financial situation.
We don't have the ability to do those things, even if someone wanted to.
The Iran situation was real.
I was in the gang of eight.
I got all the classified briefings from Marco and from John Ratcliffe, CIA Director,
and from Hexeth and the president himself,
the intel said that we were of an imminent danger
of an attack on our personnel,
our service members, our civilians, our installations in that region,
that Iran was going to have a barrage of missiles.
This is all the unclassified part now.
It's all been important.
This would be in response to the Israeli attack,
which was going to happen whether we wanted it.
Which was imminent because it was an existential threat for them.
And they saw their avowed enemy
who said they wanted to wipe Israel off the map
at a moment of vulnerability
and they are producing new ballistic missiles in Iran
at a rate of about 700 a month,
which is far outpacing what our regional allies there
could keep up with,
and they were, of course, pursuing their nuclear ambitions again.
And so Israel was going to act unilaterally,
it's their right as a nation to do it,
and there would be an immediate cause and effect,
and we had to act first to prevent mass casualties on our side.
Commander-in-chief had a tough decision.
It's not a declaration of war.
It's a defensive, limited mission.
I think that mission is getting accomplished,
and the world's gonna be better off because of it.
You know, some of the arguments that I've heard,
including from Capitol Hill,
that we need a formal declaration of war,
or whatever.
Obviously, your nonsense, you could see that in the War Powers Act.
Obama took, what, seven months on Libya or something like that.
And not a single Democrats had a word about it.
Of course.
Biden was shooting the Hootis for a year without a declaration of war.
So I totally buy that.
If President Trump's timeline is legit,
as you seem to think it is, five weeks,
then I could see that not really matter.
mattering into the midterms.
Something that I could see mattering, perhaps even more, though, is you could say, look,
we've done our part in the House and we backed up the President's agenda, promises made, promises kept.
But your colleague in the upper chamber seems to be really struggling even to bring a basic piece of legislation,
the SAVE Act, for a vote. Voter ID, widely popular, what, 80% popularity?
So are you going to be punished for the Senate's inability to pass basic legislation?
Well, I hope not. We passed the SAVE Act twice, previous Congress, this Congress,
now we pass the Save America Act because now it's voter ID and proof of citizenship together.
And then, as you might have noted, the president last few days has added a few more bills and whistles.
He caused it the greatest hits.
And we'll do that again.
We'll pass it over there.
Leader Thune has a, John has a tough decision on his hands.
They are concerned that if they opened the talking filibuster, as obvious as that seems to you and me, in the Senate,
they have archaic rules.
And they're concerned, their reading of the rules is Democrats could flood the field with
thousands of amendments.
There's no germaneous limitation on the amendment.
They're going to add any crazy Democrat policy they want.
And if they're able to lure a couple of squishy Republicans over there, then we've got a live
grenade.
The other problem is the clerk under the rules is made to read every amendment into the record
live.
Okay.
So if they file 1,400-page amendments, they could tie the Senate floor up for months.
That's what they're concerned about.
Now, Desperate Times Call for Desperate Measures.
You know, I've talked to the President about this and the risk versus the benefits, and he says, let's risk it and go for it.
Because you and I know, and we all know, and the reason we pass it so vigorously, the Save America Act is aptly named.
It would save election integrity, which preserves our republic.
You can't have a Constitutional Republic if people don't have faith in the election system.
So these are basic requirements.
There's 70% issues with Democrats.
There's no reason that they shouldn't be able to get 60 votes under regular order over there.
But the Democrats have dug in. Why? Because as the president says, the only way in reason you could be against voter ID to vote and citizenship to vote is if you intend to cheat. And, you know, they're showing us by their actions. That's what the Democrats are about.
Two final questions, but they're basically the same question. The people from my class, the podcasters, love to tell Congress what to do.
Sometimes without much knowledge of how Congress actually works.
So what would your message be to the conservative podcasters, influencers, pundits, and babbling types?
One, and then two, 237 days left, you got a herd cats.
You have the toughest job in Washington, D.C.
I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.
What do you say to all of your members is the unifying message, the coherent message,
that breaks through the noise, that brings that chasm between perception and reality back together?
Well, you mentioned a widening chasm.
There's a widening chasm between the two parties.
This is not our father, grandfather's Democratic party.
They're actual Marxists now.
They're insurgent, far-leftist, and they will destroy the country in quick order if they get in charge again.
So we have to evaluate that, and then we've got to articulate that to the people, to the voters, to our constituents.
This election is about a contrast.
It's between common sense and crazy.
I mean, the president was right in the state of the union.
They're crazy.
They are crazy.
That's their policies.
What they would do to this country is frightening.
So we've got to go out, articulate that clearly, consistently.
with conviction and authenticity.
And we have the people that can do that,
the people that serve in the house,
battered as we are by fake news, by the left,
and misinformation sometimes on our side,
well-intended folks,
that there's always more nuance to it.
There's always factors behind this.
And what I would say to our allies and friends
in the conservative movement is,
now is the time for us to stick together.
And if you have questions or something seems awry
or there's a big conspiracy theory brewing,
there's usually some more facts behind.
that and if you would just take the time, take a pause, contact us, let us know, we'll give you
all the information. And if we're off, I'm open a course correction every day, but it's
been said and written and I think it's true, I know it's true. I'm the most conservative
person that has ever held a gavel. I'm a movement conservative. Literally came up through
the movement. I was the attorney for most of the conservative groups that are, you know,
leading in the policy arena and everything else, religious liberty, sanctity of life, all that.
I was that guy. And so that's my worldview. That's what I bring to the table and my objective
every day is to move the ship of state as to the furthest point we can on the conservative
spectrum and to get public policy right. We have a president who's fiercely devoted to fixing
America and making America great again. We have. America's back, but it will only stay on that
trajectory if we all stick together. If you're going to fire, don't do it inside our tent.
There's plenty of folks on the other side politically who can take that ammo.
I agree with that message entirely, Mr. Speaker. I just wish that other members of the
party and the movement would see things the same way.
In any case, you have meant much more to do,
speaking of all that hurting cats.
So appreciate you taking the time.
Thanks a lot, brother.
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