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This person claimed that Elon Musk wanting to buy Twitter was ultimately just about, quote, white power.
They call for the destruction of statues of Jesus Christ, suggesting they depicted white supremacy, racist propaganda, and oppression.
This person has white male on their birth certificate.
However, he claims there's more of the story.
Who is this person?
I named the well-known Talcum X, Sean King.
Wow, we have the exact same.
A.K.H. Alpha Max.
On this face off, we will find out which modern-day gladiator knows more about the topic of the day.
One that will inevitably be a pillar of whatever Democrat runs for president in 2024, racism.
Buckle up because it's not just about race, it's about the people who hustle it.
Today we have Christopher Rufo, author of America's Cultural Revolution,
how the radical left conquered everything, taking on Michael Knowles.
Now, between these two gentlemen, it may be impossible.
to know who gets accused of racism more often, but we will find out who knows more about the people
who peddle it. This is face-off race hustler. I'm Michael. Are you feeling confident today?
I'm feeling very good, and I'm feeling especially good, because I am by far the darkest man on this panel.
Even though Chris and I have the same ethnic background, for some reason I am at least four to seven shades
darker, so I'm feeling good about my chances. I'm feeling much better about your chances now,
And Christopher, what did you do to prepare for this episode?
Absolutely nothing.
I just have the serene and zen calm of a master of race hustling knowledge.
Feeling quite good, quite confident right now.
Gentlemen, you'll each have 30 seconds to give your answer.
This is question number one.
This person said that if she could identify as anything she wanted,
she would be a pan-African, pro-black, bisexual, mother activist artist,
but trans-black is just easier.
She changed her legal name to Nikichi Amare Diallo.
And finally, this person also has an onlyfan site.
Who is this race hustler?
Oh.
I feel like Christopher wrote that down pretty quick.
I was there.
All right, Noles.
What do you got?
I'm going to guess, listen, unlike you, Ben, I don't subscribe to hers or any other only fan's website.
But I'm going to guess Rachel Dahlizal.
Christopher?
Yep.
I'm also here with Rachel Dahlisal.
I think she has a kind of foot fetish site, if I remember correctly.
That's what I read.
That's what I read.
That is correct.
I visited, but, uh, didn't, but Ben,
Ben said it was like, uh, I brought this up to him some time ago, and Ben said that it
was a fuller only fan site.
All right.
I'm going to subscribe just to find out the truth.
I do not recommend that.
I do not remember that all.
Number two, this person began preaching at the age of four and was an ordained
Penteecostal minister at age 10.
This person also delivered Michael Jackson's eulogy.
Trump called this person a conman, and recently this person gave Jordan Neely's eulogy.
This person also spells respect, R-S-P-I-C-T.
All right, we'll let Mr. Rufo go first.
I'm going with Al Sharpton.
Michael?
The very reverend, in quotes, Al Sharpton, when he's not starting race riots in Crown Heights,
he is shaking down corporations and giving eulogies at random people's funeral.
Gentlemen, we are batting 1,000-2-2.
So in the words of my late friend, Aretha Franklin, show some R-E-S-P-I-C-T.
Did you guys have any idea when you start off this good?
Yes.
Yes, absolutely, 100%.
All right, number three, this person claimed that Elon Musk wanting to buy Twitter was ultimately
just about, quote, white power.
They call for the destruction of statues of Jesus Christ, suggesting they depicted
white supremacy, racist propaganda, and oppression.
This person has white male on their birth certificate.
However, he claims there's more of the story.
Who is this person?
You guys are flying through this.
This has made him harder.
All right, Mike, what do you got?
I named the well-known Talcum X, Sean King.
All right, Chris.
Wow, we have the exact same,
Sean King, AKA Talcum X.
That's amazing.
I think we'll give a bonus point.
I think it's four.
I want us most to have a bonus.
We're right here.
You know, Chris and I are actually so close.
We can almost finish each other's sandwiches.
Never mind.
Never mind.
All right.
Number four.
This person has been called the, quote,
Black America's Attorney General.
They had their own Netflix original about them.
This person also took part in a lawsuit against Ed Shearin,
which claimed that Shearin's song,
Thinking Out Loud from 2014,
was actually stolen from,
Marvin Gay's Let's Get It On.
This person claimed the original
gay song was actually, quote, a cornerstone
in the American experience.
You know, freedom, statute of liberty, let's
get it on.
With the title, Black America's Attorney General
is metaphorical?
Is it a literal? Is it, or literal?
It's a nickname that he has.
Well, I know it's a nickname that he has. I'm saying, like,
is the guy an attorney general? He's not going to tell me.
No, he's definitely not.
All right, well, I'm going to take my anthra off.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.
This one is hard. This one is tough.
I remember the shoring case, but I don't...
Ten seconds.
All right.
Okay. I think I got it.
We'll see if you got it, Michael.
I'm going to say Johnny Cochran's ghost.
I like it. I wish I could take it.
Christopher, what do you got?
Yeah, I thought it was Eric Holder than you said it was not literal.
So I'm going with the only other attorney that seems to be everywhere.
Ben Crump.
It is Ben Crump.
Oh, shoot.
There it is.
Take it a narrow lead.
All right.
All right.
Next up.
This person ran for U.S. President twice, but has never held elected office.
They founded the Rainbow Push Coalition.
And while caught on a hot mic, this person said that he wanted to, quote, cut Barack Obama's nuts out.
Who is this person?
Well, that doesn't narrow it down, you know, but I think I still know.
Oh man, my first guess was Ben Shapiro.
But, uh, no.
All right, what have got, Chris?
This is Jesse Jackson, the one and only.
Um, that was, uh, quite a quote.
Still, still, still hits me to this day.
Oh, my god, s.
This one, Jesse Jackson also ties in with one of Chris's other, uh, minor interests,
which would be, uh, the complete collapse of education.
Because it was Jesse Jackson who led the march at Stanford.
where he said, hey, hey, ho,
Western Siv has got to go.
We're going to go on to the next question.
This person was raised in a White Foster family.
They served as a Marine, but it was reported
as they were absent without leave three times.
This person also appeared in a Skrillix music video,
but is probably most famous for being instrumental
in Nicholas Sandman's hostile takeover of CNN.
Ooh, you guys both seem stumped.
This is a CNN guy?
No, he helped out in Nicholas Sandman's
hostile takeover at CNN.
Hmm.
He didn't actually take over CNN.
He just took a large sum of money from it.
And time.
Okay.
I'm going to say,
there's a little bit of a guess,
that crazy Indian feather, not dot.
All right, we just got demonetized on YouTube.
Christopher.
I'm just drawn a blank.
No, no epithets or ethnic markers to be had.
Zero.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Michael Null,
is correct. It's Nathan Phillips. However,
it's not his name. Come on. No one knows
his name. I mean, it's... I know if an Indian
not dot works, but, you know,
whatever. You're the moderator, Ben. You'll tell us.
What do the judges say? Can we appeal to the
judges? What do you say, judges?
At least partial credit?
I think we can take that. No one knows who Nathan Phillips
is. Yeah, all right. That's true.
He's the Native American begging on the drum in front
of Nicholas Salmon. Great. Oh, that's good.
I couldn't tell if it was the Hebrew-Israelite
guys, too. You know, because the other
guys were the ones who egged
Nick Sandman on, and they were calling him all sorts of names. But whoever, forget about Nathan Phillips.
No one knows the Hebrew-Israelite names. All right, next up. This person has said, quote,
Black people are apparently responsible for calming the fears of violent cops in the way.
Women are supposedly responsible for calming the sexual desires of male rapist. This person was born
with the last name Rogers, but chose a new last name after he got married. Looks like Christopher knows
already. Oh, shoot.
This person is also the author of How to Be an Anti-Racist.
Oh, what of Michael's favorite books?
Is it the other Mr. X?
Let's find out.
Ibram X. Kendi?
Oh, right.
Yep.
I'm a friend.
I'm a friend.
I'm right.
We're still tied up.
This is going to go down with the wire.
Chris, when was the last time you spoke with your pal, Ibram?
I've been blocked.
You know, Ibram had a couple of different.
difficult exchanges with me in the past and just couldn't handle it, I think. And, you know, he blocked me,
but I'm hoping that with time there's some forgiveness, a reconciliation, and we can be friends again.
That'd be nice. In the meantime, though, it's just clear anti-Italian discrimination.
That's right. You're blocked too. I'd take it. Yeah, yeah. That's right.
I got to do something better. I'm still, I'm not blocked by this guy yet. I got to get more active on Twitter.
Or X, sorry. X. X. All right, next up.
after even ex-Kendi.
Yeah, exactly.
All right, here we go.
Despite living in poverty,
her entire childhood and young adulthood,
she believed she had always benefited from white privilege.
She stated that, quote,
if you're a white person, you are racist, pure and simple.
And this person is also the best-selling author of white fragility.
I think you guys can both show at the same time for this one.
Yeah, unfortunately for both Knowles and for me,
she's also an Italian, Robin DiAngelo.
It's very sad.
And she does our people real dirty, Robin X. DiAngelo.
As a result of being born and raised as a white person in this culture, I have a racist worldview.
I have deep racist biases.
All right, here we go.
This person was adopted at five weeks old and was raised by white parents.
He went on to maintain a 4.0 GPA throughout his college career while playing football.
He had a very controversial career in the NFL and reportedly lost a recent job opportunity to play with the Ravens.
And it was allegedly because he lost it when his girlfriend completely.
compared the team's owner to a slave owner.
Which is probably true because he later starred in a documentary
that compared slavery to the NFL draft.
Who is this person?
I think we got this one, right?
It's just Colin Kaepernick.
Colin X. Kepernick, yep.
But you got to still the last name right or I'm not going to take it.
That's right. I think it is A4E, right?
It's all of the vowels.
His last name.
All right, next up.
This person gave us the immortal tweet
quote, rooting for the Celtics is like saying Hitler was a victim.
Oh, yes.
What?
And while working at ESPN, this person tweeted,
you're a racist if you vote for Trump,
even though their mother did in fact vote for Trump.
This person claimed that the reaction to Carly Russell,
the black woman who faked getting kidnapped,
was racist and that the public's reaction would, quote,
not be the same if she had been white.
They were also cast in the 2002 Showtime docu series
everything's going to be all white.
Who is this person?
You said this is a man or a woman?
This is a woman.
Okay.
See how I pulled that bit of information out of him?
I did it so casually.
He didn't even notice.
A woman.
Oh.
Oh, I know.
I think I know this chick.
I don't think I've watched more than 30 seconds of ESPN in my entire life, so I don't know her name.
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If you would...
Yeah, yeah, if you wouldn't mind.
All right, Christopher, what do you got?
So I just had put
the ESPN lady who
constantly complains, and then I
think it triggered something, and am I
correct in saying is Jamil or
Jamila Hill?
Michael? Is that right?
I... It is unbelievable
what a wavelength, Chris and I are on.
Because I, too, wrote,
that chick from CNN.
But I forgot, then... I don't know.
I know the name Jamili Hill, but I don't know if that's the same person.
I don't know either.
It is Jamel Hill.
Wow.
Boom.
There you go.
Jamel Hill.
All right.
Did Michael actually write Jamel Hill, though, or did you say...
No, I just wrote that chick from CNN.
Yeah, I don't know if we can take that...
It was a substantial overlay.
Yeah.
I think Chris gets it.
Devastating.
Devastating that our answers were almost the same.
Rufo up one.
Currently 10-9, Rufo is up one.
Yikes, man.
Yikes.
Here we go.
I got to come back.
There we go.
And it might happen starting now.
This person is a Hollywood starlet.
In an interview, this person openly admitted that they, quote, hate blonde white women.
This person led the charge of boycotting the Oscars with the hashtag,
Oscar So White.
Ooh.
Is a Hollywood starlet?
Okay.
Oscar So White.
There were like three black actresses in her.
Hollywood. I don't. You know, maybe
she has a point, because I actually can't name them any black
actresses.
True. If it helps,
she hates white women,
but are blonde. That does not narrow
it down. He's a Hollywood star. The only one I can think of is
Lupita Nyango, who's, like, normal.
So I don't, it's not her. She seems fine. Yeah,
she's, no, she's, she's normal.
Hmm. All right, well,
I'm gonna say.
All right. I got something. All right,
what do you got, Michael? Uh, Sydney Poitier.
For sure.
I just put the Will Smith's ex-wife.
I don't know.
It's Will Smith's current wife.
Jada Pinkett Smith.
Blonde hair, all white women just triggers me.
Is it, it is her, though?
Yeah.
Is she divorced?
I don't think so.
Unfortunately for him.
Okay.
I think that counts in my favor.
I just thought they were divorced, but it's the right lady.
Can we please Doc Chris for saying X?
I would give him the point, but if the judges,
want to steal it from him, please do.
I really want to get Chris for a point, but I mean,
they're screaming my ear that absolutely not is coming through here.
Really? Wow, okay.
Yeah, there we go, baby.
The rigged election.
This is hegemony here.
You want to talk about cultural hegemony.
That's right.
Okay.
All right. Next up.
This person's birth name was Ronald McKinley Everett.
They were convicted of felony assault, torture, and false imprisonment of women,
but it did not go to prison.
This person declared that Christianity is a, quote,
white religion and that black people should shun it, which makes sense because this person also
created Kwanza.
You know this one.
I don't know the guy's name.
You will recognize it when I say it.
You've heard this name many times.
It's the funniest.
It's kind of sad because he tortured women and, like, hit him on the head with toasters and, like,
I mean, he did, like, insane, branded them and everything.
But shall we?
I concede, yeah, take it.
Okay.
As I completely butcher.
this name. Malana Karenga. Oh, there you go.
Malana Karenga. Malana Kalinga.
All right. So does that tie it up after you cheated Chris
out of his last point? That's great. He may be ahead by a Astrosk here.
I feel like you guys have shuttered the windows and there's people bringing in
balance from the ban. Hold on there was a pipe that just burst.
We got a burst pipe in our studio.
All right. Next up, this person is another Hollywood celebrity.
they also called white people and Jews, quote,
evil savages closer to animals.
According to the LA Times,
even after being recently fired,
they reportedly still make over $100 million per year.
Who is this person?
That guy makes $100 million a year.
According to the LA Times.
Wow.
I mean, I only really know.
You'll remember this also if it doesn't occur to you
before the time runs up.
I can't pronounce this name.
Oh, wait, maybe I'm wrong.
I can't pronounce the name.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Read the prompt again because now you're making me question my answer.
Okay.
According to the L.A.
This person is another Hollywood celebrity.
Yeah.
They also called white people and Jews evil savages closer to animals.
And according to the L.A. Times, even after being recently fired, reportedly, they still make over $100 million a year.
Yeah, okay.
I'm sticking by my answer.
All right.
All right.
Chris, what do you got?
I have no idea.
Zero.
No idea.
I'm going to say Nick Cannon.
Yeah, Nick Cannon. What makes you think that's hard to...
I was saying I can pronounce that.
Oh, you're saying you can pronounce?
Yeah, yeah, that's an easy name.
Yeah.
So there, you know, I'm not...
There's a story about that.
They're the ones that are actually closer to animals.
They're the ones that are actually the true savages.
But I'm not gonna say it...
A hundred million dollars a year?
This is the guy that just has many children, right?
Yes.
What does he actually do?
I never quite understood what he actually does.
He was on Nickelodeon in like 1997,
and some of him.
Which is a curse, which is a life curse.
That would explain all his future.
You end up either getting molested or something horrible happening to you.
Yeah.
The story, though, about why he thinks that,
I'm not going to say it because it might pertain to a later question,
depending on how many race hustlers you've got.
But it is, all right, I'll save it to the end.
We'll see.
If the name doesn't come up, then maybe we'll get into it.
Michael is the constant tease.
All right, here we go.
Wow.
This person is a former NFL Super Bowl champion.
He is the author of the book, quote,
Things that Make White People Uncomfortable.
And in 2017, after inciting mass outrage over his claims of racist Las Vegas police,
threatening to, quote, blow his head off,
he was caught completely lying about all the details when the body footage was released.
Who is this person?
Okay.
It's easy.
All right, Michael.
Joe Namer.
Obviously.
I got O.J. Simpson.
I almost wrote O.J.
The correct answer is Michael Bennett.
What did he say to you when he had the gun to your head?
We'll blow your fucking hell if you move.
He won the Super Bowl with the Seattle Seahawks.
Didn't he run for president in 2016?
Wasn't he like one of the Democrats running?
I don't believe so.
Not Michael Bennett.
A milter toast white guy.
Yeah, also same name.
What's the score now?
1110 with Michael up now?
So can you give Chris his point back that you stole?
I mean, she's not the ex-wife.
But, yes, we can give him this point.
No, don't do it on my account.
Should be.
I was projecting a desire.
I was projecting a desire.
I know you know who it was, though.
That's true.
I mean, you're right.
I know you could see her in your head, obviously.
Yes.
We will do the half point.
All right, here we go.
Last question.
Despite at first glance looking white as a driven snow,
this person claimed they were a Native American on not one,
but two college applications.
They took an ancestry quiz and attempt to show off
their racial street cred. And this person is the acclaimed author of the Native American cookbook,
Pow Wow, Chow. All right. Christopher, what do you have? None other than a chief, Liz Warren.
Laiwatha, Chief Spreading Bull, the Massachusetts Senaterix, Elizabeth Warren. That is correct,
gentlemen. My papa had high cheekbones like all of the Indians do.
That's right.
So you know the story? So that's all the questions?
That is all the questions.
So you know the story? The thing about Nick Cannon that's crazy is he got that idea from this crazy CUNY professor named Jeffries.
I think it was Lionel Jeffries or Leonard Jeffries, who had this idea that white people are the people of the ice and black people of the science.
So he developed this whole theory that Nick Cannon articulated.
And that guy's nephew is now the Democrat leader in the House of Representatives, Hakeem Jeffries.
Wow.
That's right.
Yeah.
Now this is a gentleman's game.
and usually when it comes down this close,
there are two bonus questions,
and if the person is the winner,
as Michael is currently by half a point,
you can give an opportunity
to have a tiebreaker still on the final question.
If you'd like to, it's up to you, Michael.
I'd be willing in my great magnanimity,
my greatness of soul,
I would be willing to extend that to Chris.
Chris, you would?
And I will accept.
All right.
It's coming down on the wire, boys.
Let's do it.
What is the name of the Native American activist
Marlon Brando asked,
to speak when he declined his Oscar for the Godfather.
There's another bonus after this.
Oh, what is that woman's name?
Oh.
I'm trying to get it.
Oh.
She's a white lady, too.
She's not a Native American.
Oh, yeah.
Snow white, yeah.
Yeah.
I'm sweating. This is getting intense.
Oh.
All right.
Fine.
At least one half a point here. It's something Little Feather, right?
Yeah, I got Little Feather.
It is Little Feather.
Little Finger. What's her first name?
Shailene.
Shalene. Little Feather.
Okay, there we go.
Little Feather.
But her real name is Mexican or something.
She's just like a regular, like, white Hispanic.
Yeah, I don't have it on my cards currently, but there is a bonus, bonus question here.
Okay.
And this is for all the Marvel.
She's the George Zimmerman of her time.
Yeah, she was.
What tribe did she claim to be from?
I'll be really impressed to be the one of you know this one.
All right, what do you got?
I said the Cheyenne.
I said the Oneida.
It is the little known white mountain Apache.
The White Mountain Apache.
Kind of tipped her hat a little bit there.
Even her Native American tribe was white.
That's amazing.
All right, well, since you guys tied, Michael, you are the champion of FaceTime.
Well done.
Really good stuff.
Thank you.
I'm glad that Davies didn't even need to cheat to deprive Chris of his well-earned half-point.
Pretty upset at what.
Will Smith at this point, I will say, if he had only divorced that lady, as I think he was well within his right to, I could have been the one that came out on top.
I'll tell you, though, obviously Catholics, we have this very strong view of marriage, like it's indissoluble.
But sometimes Catholics don't live up to that.
Will Smith, I don't think the guy's Catholic, but he is living up to truly superhuman virtue by staying with that horrible, horrible woman.
Yeah, that's true.
Although I think, you know, if you ask the Pope, there could be special dispensation given the circumstances.
I haven't spoken to the Holy Father about it.
Great.
All right, Chris, if you would, do you mind giving us a 30-second pitch of why people should tune into Michael Knowles?
I will.
You have to tune into Michael Knowles, not only for his handsome appearance, his incredibly gracious demeanor and his stunning and sparkling intellect, but because he has supreme knowledge of,
the race hustlers of American history. And so tune in. Michael and a show every day on the Daily
Wire. That was so beautiful. By the way, though, you can't just tune in because I'm so handsome.
That's fine. You don't need any of the other stuff. It's totally... By the way, I have... This is going to be a
a little teeds. Do you know what book I received in the mail just yesterday? I received...
I received a certain book from a certain author who might be on this panel, Memoirs of Ben Davy.
No, I'm joking. I received your book, Chris, and I'm going to be reviewing it in an upcoming very highly sought after and respected publication.
So I look forward to it and given your excellent performance on today's show, I now expect it to be a very good book.
Thank you so much.
Well, there you have it. If you haven't already, stop what you're doing and get your copy of Christopher Rufo's new book, America's Cultural Revolution, How the Radical Left Conquered Everything, which you can get everywhere of books are sold.
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