The Michael Knowles Show - Michael REACTS to WNBA Fails with Enes Kanter Freedom

Episode Date: October 17, 2026

Michael Knowles is joined by Enes Kanter Freedom to react to some of the WNBA’s funniest and most unbelievable fails. From wild moments on the court to the league’s biggest controversies, Michael ...and Enes break it all down. Watch until the end and let us know which WNBA moment was your favorite! - - - Today’s Sponsor: Freespoke - Visit https://GetFreespoke.com/DailyWire and use  code knowles30 to receive 30% off your annual subscription. Or download the app https://freespoke.app.link/knowles30 - - - DailyWire: Become a Daily Wire Member and watch all of our content ad-free: https://dailywire.com/subscribe 🇺🇸 Get 3-Months of DailyWire for just $17.76 📜 📲 Download the free Daily Wire app today on iPhone, Android, Roku, Apple TV, Samsung, and more. 🍿 Watch Run Hide Fight: Infidels https://www.dailywire.com/videos/run-hide-fight-infidels 📘 My book "Speechless: Controlling Words, Controlling Minds" is available here: https://dwplus.shop/Speechless 📗 My book "Reasons to Vote for Democrats: A Comprehensive Guide" is available here: https://dwplus.shop/ReasonsToVoteForDemocrats 🕯️ Get your Michael Knowles candles: https://thecandleclub.com/collections/michael-knowles 👕 Don’t dress like a squish. Shop my merch here: https://dwplus.shop/MichaelKnowlesMerch - - - Socials: YouTube — https://youtube.com/@MichaelKnowles Facebook — https://www.facebook.com/michaelknowlesshow Instagram — https://www.instagram.com/michaeljknowles TikTok — https://www.tiktok.com/@notmichaelknowles X — https://twitter.com/michaeljknowles - - - Privacy Policy: https://www.dailywire.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:14 Do you think that, you know, you have the skills to qualify for the women's basketball league? Because you're doing exactly what LeBron is doing. Oh, my goodness. I don't want to see that. I don't want to see a woman get hurt. Wait till I get into that league. I've been a little tough on the WNBA, and people have rightly pointed out
Starting point is 00:02:41 I'm not the biggest athlete in the world, either by stature or by expertise. So I decided to bring in someone who is one of the biggest athletes in the world, both by stature and expertise. That would be Ennis Cantor Freedom. Annes, thank you for coming on. What happened to brother?
Starting point is 00:02:57 So people are criticizing me. saying maybe I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to the WNBA. Not only are you an athlete. I know what I'm talking about. Yes, because look, you played, what, 11 seasons in the NBA? Yeah, but more importantly than that, you might play another 11 seasons in the WNBA if they let you in. Well, only if they let me in. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:17 You know, only if they don't change the rules. I'm actually, I started to work out. So, you know, I'm just like, you know, it's like a first day of school. You know, you get excited, you get nervous. I promise I had those feelings right now. So if they don't change the rules, I'm in. Now, do you think that, you know, you have the skills to qualify for the women's basketball league? Listen, if that ever happens, there won't be any record standing.
Starting point is 00:03:40 I will literally, I might, they might need to get like, I might break every rim that I've played on. I will, 100% will dunk everything. Wow, okay. Well. That's my goal. If I don't dunk, it doesn't count. That could be your handicap. 100%.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Yeah. Okay. Well, I need your expertise to weigh in because maybe I've misinterpreted. would some of the gals of the WNBA have said. Here's one of the coach ladies describing the whole issue. What is your stance on men or athletes who tested biological male participating in women's sports? What's your personal stance? Yeah, I mean, I'm, I don't know that I would say that I'm educated enough from a scientific standpoint.
Starting point is 00:04:21 I don't ever believe that exclusion is an answer. I just don't. I do think, you know, when we think about very, levels of sport, various governing bodies of sport and things that go into that. Like I said, I'm not educated enough at the different levels. I know growing up, I played with the boys all the time. So you weren't girls sports. Would you welcome a biological male in WNBA?
Starting point is 00:04:44 Again, it's like, I don't know when we talk about biological male and scientifically where we are, I think it's a totally different scenario. You know, as I said, I'm not educated enough in terms of transgender and transgender and transitioning to give you to give you a smart answer. I would say, though, that I just don't feel like exclusion is an answer. And I think that we need to have deeper, more layered conversation. Okay, so the main takeaway is from that, that woman is not educated. And also, from what she's saying, that sounds pretty good for you.
Starting point is 00:05:21 So listen, but do you see how she like stutters, right? When she answered, how nervous she gets? Just say no, dude. Like, what are you talking about? Like, if the biological male comes to your league, right? Yeah. You're going to be taking your minutes. You're going to be taking your endorsement deals.
Starting point is 00:05:40 We're going to be taking your dignity and everything you have built. Like, they have no idea. I've been actually in touch with three European players, three G-League players and two NBA, former NBA players. They said if they don't change rules, we are all in. So at that point, why? Why do we have a woman's league? Let's get rid of the WMBA.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Let's merge you two leagues. And let's see what they can do in a man's league. Now, you had me at let's get rid of the WNBA. That was very persuasive. What's strange about her answer, she says, oh, I'm not educated. I'm not educated. I don't know anything. I'm not smart.
Starting point is 00:06:17 I'm not educated. Okay, very good. She says, but no exclusion. And then she hesitates on whether or not you can join. So then you did show up to the WNBA, right? Six-point basketball game. Chicago staying in it. Natasha Cloud.
Starting point is 00:06:34 And right before the break, this was the scene inside WinTrust Arena. After Natasha Cloud got that bucket, she wanted her voice heard. We have talked about the conversations surrounding the W. That is Enos Cantor in the building today. And he has voiced how he's still about the situation at Tasha Cloud voicing her opinion as well canter was just escorted out okay well they excluded you exactly they said they weren't going to exclude anybody why'd they exclude you listen you know it's funny because all i did was just got up and say i
Starting point is 00:07:17 support woman that's literally all i said and it was i was wearing a t-shirt was defining what a woman is that i guess triggered them and then that really triggered and natasha kala she was barking at me and she was dropping a lot of F-bombs. I mean, it's crazy, man. That's not very lady-like, by the way. No, that's not. And also, like, she's loved by the Chicago fans. Like, there was so many teenagers and kids was at that game.
Starting point is 00:07:44 I'm like, you can't be doing that front of all these kids. Yeah. I mean, after they kicked me out, I'm like, this is just crazy. I thought they were four women, you know? So I'm like, I guess let's see what happens. I mean, the crazy thing is, after this whole thing, right, The owner of Chicago's guy, Michael Alter, came out and said, NS's actions was equal to shooting a gun.
Starting point is 00:08:07 He said this in Chicago. They know a lot about shooting guns in Chicago. That's what I'm talking about. You can be making that kind of statement in Chicago. Like, what are you talking about? Yes, that is incoherent. And then obviously the whole situation is incoherent. Because on the one hand, they say, we're not going to exclude anybody.
Starting point is 00:08:25 We're not going to say that people who look like men can't play in the WMBA. But on the other hand, they exclude this poor young woman who's just trying to support her fellow girls. I pay like, listen, I pay like, what, almost 10K for those seats. Hold on. I thought 10K was like the entire revenue of the WNBA. How did you pay 10K for those? Caitlin Clark changes the whole game. Listen, I looked at every other game, like, why is this so expensive?
Starting point is 00:08:54 They used to pay you to come to games. And now, like, I have to pay 10K. I looked at every other WMBA games, right? They were like, you know, $50, $100, $150. That's too expensive. But for, even maybe people are saying that even that is too expensive. But Caitlin Clark, man, and she just, she just. You know what else is unfair about this?
Starting point is 00:09:15 So you play 11 seasons in the NBA. That means you've already paid a lot of money to the WNBA because the NBA subsidizes the WMBA. See, that's what no one knows about. So WMBA loses around $50 million a year. So actually, if you're an NBA player, you would know about this, but if you're not an NBA player, you wouldn't know. So every year, it's called escrow. NBA takes some of the money from the players.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Yeah. And if the revenues on everything was good, they paid that money back. If not, they keep the money. So if no NBA, there's not going to be double the NBA, because they're the one to pay all the bills. You should at least get a discount. You shouldn't have to pay $10,000. I want my money back, man.
Starting point is 00:10:00 You should get your money. I'm telling you. Maybe you can get it back when you're in the WNBA as part of your salary. Okay, so if you wouldn't mind, just bring in some of your WNBA knowledge to bear. If you're on the team,
Starting point is 00:10:12 if who knows, maybe you play some seasons, maybe you end up coaching the WMBA, what would be your read on some of these plays? Let's check it out. Top five funniest lowlights in WMBA history. Let's go take a look. Starting off at number five, I got a brick to lay up.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Big man gets the board. sends it back to the person who missed and she misses another layup. And then they can't even grab the rebound. At number four, we have a three turnover sequence. First girl passes it directly to the other team. Next girl dribbles it through a double team, turns it over, and then the last girl just throws it out of bounds. Like, what am I even watching?
Starting point is 00:10:43 At number three, we have a basically four turnover sequence. First player falls over, turns it over. Next player passes it away to the other team. Finally, we got some offense. Nope. Wait, miss layup. Next player brings it all the way back down the court. Oh, she gets in the lane. Hey, maybe what?
Starting point is 00:10:58 Nope, pass right to the other team. And you wonder why nobody watches. At number two, I got an in-bounds plane. Nothing back can happen, right? Unless you pass it right to the other team. And the other person didn't help themselves out by bricking the three-pointer. I mean, this is insane. We're passing it right to the other team.
Starting point is 00:11:12 She didn't even have a teammate within like 20 feet. But at number one, we have Miss Rookie of the Year, hitting the bottom of the rim on a wide open layup. Reason why we watching women's basketball is not just because of one person. It's because of me too. Nah, shoddy, that's all, Caleb. Okay, now I want to know, because I think I'm missing something. Is there some deeper 5D strategy to like, if you, like, I don't know, I only played basketball
Starting point is 00:11:40 when I was about six years old. Do you intentionally throw the ball to the other team in order to? Oh, God. You know, I watch some of the, you know, AU basketball, and they're like, what, 15, 16 years I promise you, I think the best AAU team is going to be very, very, it's going to go viral and I don't even know if I should say this, but I think the best AAU team can beat the best WMBA team, 100%. You ever hear about Carson Brasch?
Starting point is 00:12:13 So this guy, Carson Brasch, he's a tennis player. And Venus and Serena Williams said they could beat any male tennis player ranked outside the top 200. So Carson Brush was ranked, I think, 208. And he was going to take them both on, same day, double-header, and to prepare for his tennis matches, he went out, played a round of golf, smoked some cigarettes, had a couple of beers, and then he beat one of the Williams sisters 6 to 0, the other one 6 to 2. Oh, my God. You're saying that's what would happen with AU basketball. Listen, AU kids are like what, 15, 16-year-old kids.
Starting point is 00:12:48 I promise you, man, I think AU boy teams, the best AU boy teams in the country can beat the best WNBA team. I'm beginning to wonder, because I was about six or seven last time I played basketball. But looking at that, I say, well, hold on. I remember that. I remember, like, throwing it to the other team. So maybe, look, you're going to be the pioneer. You're going to be the trailblazer, and then maybe I can come into the WAA after. Do we have any more highlights?
Starting point is 00:13:27 The cringes player of all time. She should get an award for that. Angel Reese. There you go. Okay, so what do you owe Angel Reese? So I was actually watching Angel Reese because I used to do that when I was in high school. I used to miss it on purpose or can get more rebounds on my stash sheet. So at one point I was actually thinking about maybe she does it on purpose.
Starting point is 00:13:54 So I was actually watching her games. I'm like, no, she's just not that good. just missing it wide open layups, you know? And then she comes out and say, the reason people watch WMBA is because of, not because of one person, but because of me as well. Like, you don't just say that. Do you know, I don't know the answer to this, how much money does Angel Reese make playing basketball? Oh, I think. I mean, with all the endorsement deals and everything, I easily, I think, closer to three million. Actually, you know, two to three million dollars? I think so. You know she blocked me on Twitter?
Starting point is 00:14:27 Angel Reese? Did she block me on Twitter? I want to actually show it to you, man. It's actually... Two to three million dollars. I think so. I would say... Angel Reese.
Starting point is 00:14:37 She blocked. Look, this is Angel Reese, right? But she wants you to pay her. Why does she block you? That's a bad strategy if you're going to pay her. And you did pay her. I did pay her. I would say a fair salary.
Starting point is 00:14:53 I'm going to ask, hold on. I would say if I would say if I'm a fair salary. I would say if I'm a fair salary. I were running the WMBA, which maybe I can someday. I would say a fair wage for the way she plays basketball is about $32,000 a year, possibly with dental insurance. So her WMBA salaries are on $350. With all the endorsement deals, I promise you,
Starting point is 00:15:15 she will make close to $1.52 million easily. That's what I'm saying. A regular WMB player makes around like about three, four. But if you're like a top one, like the AJ Wilson, for example, they make $1.6 million. So let's just, let's talk about a G-League player. They make around $45,000 a year, right? So all they have to do, come out and say,
Starting point is 00:15:42 identify as a woman. They will be making $1.6 million a year. So that's what I'm saying. They have no idea what they play with. Worse case scenario. 100%. So all you have to do is just say, identify as a woman,
Starting point is 00:15:54 and you'll be making, you know, $1.3, $4 million more. It's crazy. Comparing that to Daily Wire salaries, I realize I'm in the wrong line of work. I got to throw basketball. Okay, do we have any more highlights from the WMBA?
Starting point is 00:16:09 Y'all said it's the player of the year, so I want all the smoke, all the smoke. Who's the best player in the country? To the media or me? As you see it. I feel like I'm the best player in the country. Yeah, the reason why we're watching women's basketball is not just because of one person,
Starting point is 00:16:24 it's because of me, too, It's not just one person, it's both of us. So Angels team, right in Chicago. And their attendance, 6,000, 6,000, 12,000, 9,000, 8,000, 8,000, and then 17,000. Whoa, why was it 17,000? Who she played? Who you think she played?
Starting point is 00:16:40 Go, go, go. What more would you want to see for women sports? Us getting paid our worth, period. Like, yeah. Yeah. Because you're doing exactly what LeBron is doing, so. Go see a lot.
Starting point is 00:16:54 It's crazy, yeah. It's good. On the table, feed, page or rings Can't finish. All the company. I'm on one. That's a black in the bag of. Tell the people that first word was short.
Starting point is 00:17:07 We don't go. Can't stop with the real. Five. Okay, so there was one time that my company, Mayflower Cigars, we did a collab with Carl Malone. That's basically my only interface with the NBA until right now. Okay. So I don't know how to assess. Is she doing exactly what LeBron is doing?
Starting point is 00:17:27 My God, first of all, I mean, listen, on the court, LeBron is one of the, arguably the best player in the world ever, right? And comparing a girl that can make an open layup to someone like LeBron, I'm like, that's what I'm saying? Like, she just, she's like, it's like a, there are a lot of content creators out there, right? And she just gives them a lop. Yes. All the time.
Starting point is 00:17:52 And I'm grateful for that. doing? If she just, if she just stopped making comments off the court and just focus on basketball, she's not a bad player, but she's just talking too much. And then, I mean, at that point, she should just focus on her podcast. I don't get her argument, though, because if her argument is we do this, we in the WNBA, we do the same thing as they do in the NBA, including the great players like LeBron. And you say, well, hold on, a guy playing college basketball is doing the same thing as LeBron. If by the same thing, you mean like dribbling a ball and throwing it and running.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Like a five-year-old Michael was, I was doing the same thing by her art. But she wouldn't say that the five-year-old should get paid the same as LeBron. No, definitely not. So it's going to be interesting because, like I said again, I mean, I really would like to, all these players are not advocating for, you know, trans athletes playing in their league. I'm excited to see. Like, I mean, think about, I'm just imagining, right? I'm closing my eyes and I'm just imagining.
Starting point is 00:18:51 I'm on the post, like, I got the ball, and she's guarding me. Like, oh my God, that's like, that's like, that's easy. And she, just this year, she got selected for defensive player of the year. But she got an award. So according to WMBA, she is the best defender in the WMBA right now. And obviously, we are watching her highlights. Okay, so let's say pick up game, Ennis Cantor Freedom and Angel Reese play one-on-one. What's the score?
Starting point is 00:19:22 If she scores even once, she wins. I would not even let, I mean, she wouldn't be able to score one. They have no idea. Like, biology matters, man. Like, they have no idea if they ever have to go against a man. So I'm just, I'm just excited. I mean, listen, these are the rules that they put out there, right? I'm just following their rules.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Don't you think, though, it might get a little awkward if you end up on her team? Do you think she's going to have to unblock you on Twitter? There's going to be some bad. I mean, that's happened on teams before. Let me tell you how a draft works. Yeah. The best team gets the worst player.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Sorry, the best team gets the worst player, worst team gets the best player. So I don't know how the draft works in WMBA. I mean, I would love to play for Atlanta. I think it's a great city, it's a great fan base. I think looks like they're going to make the finals. And I will be going to finals to watch my girl Angel. Wow.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Yeah. I'm going to their game, actually. So it's going to be very interesting by end of their team. They're probably going to let you stay and keep watching it, right? Oh, they better. I mean, because I'm just a regular fan. I wouldn't. And a prospective player.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Exactly. I'm actually there to take some notes because potentially, if they don't change rules, I will be going against these players next year. There's a lot more to say first, though. Go to get freespoke.com slash daily wire. The truth gets buried. FreeSpoke helps you find it and use. decide. So right here, let's just look it up. Let's look up a little WNBA. WS. I don't look that up very often,
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Starting point is 00:22:34 That is, 800-575-4908. That is, once more, 800-575-4908. Tax relief advocates, real solutions for people. Okay, so Angel Reese says it's not all about one player, it's not all about Caitlin Clark. It's about everybody else. And yet it does seem like not just the fans, but even the players treat Caitlin Clark differently. Do we, how do they treat her? Watch when Caitlin Clark is trying to create some space. It looked like she just got hit in the eye there. Ooh, ooh, and Marina Mabry. I missed that one, Edona. Oh, I missed that one too. Yeah, it looked like Caitlin got hit hard both by just. J.C. Sheldon.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Women are always so nice to each other. It's crazy to me when attacking another woman. It's just funny because she is the golden goose of the league, and everybody knows that. Everybody, the league knows that. Every other player knows that. But I think it's just jealousy, you know? You're telling me women would be jealous and cruel toward each other.
Starting point is 00:23:52 No, I've never heard that. You're telling me for the first time. But why her in particular? Is it just because she's so good? But I think, I mean, listen, until Keith and Clark arrived, right, nobody was really watching the WMBA. And I think all the other players just feel that disrespect. And now because everyone is watching the league is because of her. Even like right now, they're out of the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:24:17 And the numbers went down by like 50 to 60 percent because no one wanted to watch anyone else but her. And I remember when I went to Chicago Sky Game. It was so crazy how many kids. Chicago kids was just wearing her jersey, you know, wearing her t-shirts and stuff. So she's the reason that WMBA is out there again. Why do they hate her for it, though? I think, like, Republicans weren't cool at all in most of my lifetime until Trump came around. And then everybody started watching because Trump was really cool and popular.
Starting point is 00:24:56 And so I would say as a Republican, I wouldn't hate Trump for that. I would love Trump for that. I'd be very grateful that Trump is helping out the team. Right. So she's the reason now every other player gets pay more. So they should protect her at all costs, the league, the old other players.
Starting point is 00:25:14 And I think her teammates needs to do a better job protecting her as well. I mean, there are a couple of them out there, like Sophie and I think there was one more, I believe. that are like really trying to protect Caitlin, but everyone else is like, I'm like, if I have a teammate, which I did like someone like, I played with like Russell Westbrook, Kevin Redd, right?
Starting point is 00:25:35 I was like making sure no one set him a hard screen, no one touch him and everyone even said anything. I was ready to fight because I mean, they are the reason that we're making so much money. So all these players out there, man, just protect your golden goose. Yeah, you're saying the women are not just mean to each other, they're also sometimes irrational? I've never heard that.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Do we have any more Caitlin Clark highlights? Oh, yeah. Yeah. You see the blood there? Yeah. It was a hard hit. You go up for the rebound, come down, straight elbow to your... You see right there, Jewel Lloyd's right elbow goes into Caitlin Clark's mouth.
Starting point is 00:26:18 That's a nice little ringer right there. Can I say, I don't... I know I don't want to discourage you in your new career. I don't like women's sports. Tennis they can have... You know why I don't like women's sports? I love women. I don't want to see that. I don't want to see a woman get hurt. I would go to UFC sometimes. K. Shia, I go to UFC. And I go there and I'm watching it. It's barbaric and it's
Starting point is 00:26:38 crazy, but it's kind of fun. And then the women get up and start beating each other up, I go get a drink. I don't want to watch that. Listen, wait till I get to that way. Listen, man, I'm 7'4.275 pounds. So think about all these girls playing against a giant like me, right? Yeah. I mean, are they going to make your gums bleed? Are they going to get you right there? I'm going to get a couple scratches. On your thigh, on your, I don't know, on your calf. But it's going to be exciting, man, I think. So according to their rule, because they don't want to discriminate anyone, right?
Starting point is 00:27:13 I am allowed to take a shower in the same room with them. I am allowed to change in the same locker room with them. And I am allowed to use the same bathroom as them, because if you identify as a woman, you should be allowed to do all of that. because it's in their collective. Well, right, and I guess they wouldn't, it wouldn't make sense for the WNBA to have men's showers in lockers.
Starting point is 00:27:37 So, think about, think about how uncomfortable is going to get as a full of, I don't know if I don't know, I should say this, but full of woman in a room, taking a shower, and I'm just walking in. Yeah, nobody, by the way, it would be uncomfortable for you.
Starting point is 00:27:53 In college, I had to share a bathroom with women. Anyway. I'm just, I'm saying, for a few different reasons. One, I want to use the bathroom around women. And two, not to be too harsh. A lot of the WMBA ladies, they're not like, they're not supermodic.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Okay, so I don't want to be out of line. But you might be uncomfortable too. I think everybody would be uncomfortable. So that's what I'm saying. Like, what are you guys doing? Like, they don't, they have no idea what kind of, like, what they are getting stuff into. Because, like, so all the, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:28 So this is, I think, to me, what we are fighting for is bigger than sports. Because all the parents out there, right? Who think, you know, who criticize me on social media every single day. Like, think about if your little daughters, they have little daughters, right? Or if your wife or your sister, would you let your little daughters be in the same locker room? It's crazy. Or be in the same shower with a biological male? You know, I...
Starting point is 00:28:54 That's what I'm trying to talk about. I have a sort of adulatory take on why the women are like this in the WMBA, which one, it's irrational, it's crazy, but part of it is women do tend to be a little more accommodating, they try to be a little more passive, they try to be all these things. And so there is something in traditional gender roles that says women are not perfectly equipped to tell bad people no. And sometimes you need a guy. need a tough guy to say, like, no, the big hairy dude doesn't get to go into your locker
Starting point is 00:29:30 room. The women might be kind of accommodating. We're not going to let that happen, though. That's wrong. That's dangerous. Yeah, and listen, I'm not the only one, man. There are many other, you know, male athletes out there that who, if they don't change rules, then they're going to put their name in a draft. Listen, I'm not a difficult person to deal with. All I'm asking is, add the word biological next to the word female in your collective bargaining, I promise that you will not hear from me ever again. People think I'm a psychopath. People think I'm the enemy now. Because when you talk about these issues, which I have a conversation with Sophie actually. Sophie Conningham. This is not a
Starting point is 00:30:05 right or left issue. This is the matter of common sense and morality. Yeah. You know, so I understand somebody media is out there trying to make me look like an enemy, right, or a grifter. But again, I'm here to protect women and there's, if they don't change the rules, I'm not. going all the way. Yeah, because by the way, you're doing this to just hold the league accountable to their own rules and to dunk a lot. You'll probably also dunk a lot. I miss playing, man, listen, I got blackballed by the NBA because of I was, you know, talking about, you know, the humorized violations in China. And obviously everybody knows the relationship between NBA China's billions of dollars. So I miss playing basketball. I haven't played basketball
Starting point is 00:30:49 since 2022. So if they don't change the rules, I'll be the best. I'll be the best. Like, you think Kathleen Clark can put people on a stance. Think about when I arrive. Like, every game is going to be sold out. They're losing so much money. I will actually be, I will help them. The game that I went to that got kicked out was the most watched WMBA games in their history.
Starting point is 00:31:13 So you're welcome WMBA. Also, let's say that you're successful. You get it. You're the guy who is doing this for all the right reasons to protect women, to protect even the integrity of the WNBA. as it is. Think about all the other guys who are doing this not for the right reasons. Exactly. That's very scary. That's what I'm saying. I mean, like, at that point, why do we have a woman's league? Let's merge the two leagues. Yeah. NBA and double the NBA, right?
Starting point is 00:31:39 And then you won't be losing anybody. And we'll call it the NBA. Exactly, exactly. We just take away the W. It's, do we have any more Caitlin Clark before we go? Yeah, it looked like Caitlin got hit hard. So the crazy thing to me was, the commissioner of the WMBA, Kathy Englebert, and the task force, just they had a meeting around a month ago. They said the reason we are holding this meeting is because we want to, look,
Starting point is 00:32:24 we're going to figure it out of what a woman is. They came out of the meeting and they said, we need weeks or maybe months to figure it out to answer that question. And if I was playing, like, think about this, if Adam Silver, commissioner of the NBA, right, holds a meeting with the task force of the NBA and says, hey, guys, we need to figure out what a man is.
Starting point is 00:32:45 The next day, there will be outrage. It will be a lockout. Like, if I'm one of those players, I will feel somewhat of disrespect. Like, what do you mean? The commissioner of the league that I'm playing for, right? Cannot define my gender? I will quit.
Starting point is 00:33:01 No, we need some kind of goodwill. hunting like Matt Damon shows up. You've got this intractable problem on the chalkboard and then he shows up, he says, a woman is like that. You know? And he's how did he know? This genius janitor, how did he know?
Starting point is 00:33:16 Unbelievable. But it's interesting, man. I mean, listen, they could have just killed the whole thing the next day, but I mean, they're just dragging this whole thing. I mean, they still couldn't figure out what a woman is. And think about this, instead of defining what a woman is, right, the
Starting point is 00:33:32 The commissioner of the WMBA decided to step down. From one of the biggest women organization in America, she's like, no, I'm not going to define it. I was like, yeah, I'd rather step down. Yeah. And she was been there for over seven years. No, but this is really, this actually makes me feel bad for them now because this is like, you deal with this sometimes with your wife or whatever.
Starting point is 00:33:56 If I'm negotiating something, I like negotiating. It's annoying. It takes up time. It's tough. But I really enjoy a negotiation. I like to, I want to get my side through. I want to, it's a fun game. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Women hate negotiations. This is why they get paid less. Women do get paid less than men. It's in part because they work fewer hours and they work for less stretches of time and they do all. But the other reason they get paid less is because the man goes into his boss's office and say, hey, this is what I need. This is what I'm not getting. These are my options. And the guy gets it.
Starting point is 00:34:26 And the guys both enjoy that. And the woman will never ask for the raise. She might go sue the company for discrimination, but she'll never ask for her rights. And so this is the extreme form. The head of the WNBA just says like, well, I'm in this negotiation, and I have to be like a little. You know what?
Starting point is 00:34:40 I'm out. I'm out. I give up. Maybe you could become the commissioner. I will, listen, I support, and I have them more for women than that commissioner, I promise. For sure. It's a shame, man.
Starting point is 00:34:55 But whoever the next commissioner is, right, from day one, make the right decision, add the word biological, and then I will be gone. Because if not, so the question is, people are keep asking me, are you going to sue them? The thing is, I don't want to sue them. I will win in every scenario I will win
Starting point is 00:35:17 because it's a discrimination, and it's in their collective bargaining, but I don't want to sue them because I really don't want them to lose even more money. So, and the MBA is the one will be paying me, if I sue the WMBA. It'll be a, yes, it'll be a hassle, but then you could recoup some of your money
Starting point is 00:35:33 that you paid them when you were a player in the NBA. So you might, there's that to. That's actually very smart. You gotta sue them to allow, it's like you're helping them help themselves. Do we have any, before we go, do we have any more Caitlin Clark highlights? Oh, there's Sophie.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Oh, God. Oh, God. And I was like, oh, shouldn't have said that. And I didn't say a word. Oh, I love. The point heard around the world. I love it. That point was viral, probably one of the biggest meme now in sports history.
Starting point is 00:36:15 The point was because someone fouled Caitlin Clark. Is that right? They got on a scuffle, and then all she did was just point, and that really triggered other player. But I think what Caitlin Clark and Sophie Cohn have doing for women's basketball, Not only in WMBA, but inspiring all these young girls out there around the world is amazing, unbelievable. I just hope that they don't blackballed Sophie Cunningham. There was a huge article a couple of days ago in New York Times,
Starting point is 00:36:49 and then whoever wrote that op-ed, it was saying that Indiana fever is in the WMBA should get rid of Sophie Cunningham because she brings a lot of off-the-court attention. to the team. So I know where this is going because the media is really going to push hard. They're just going to push her out. And I think she is, if that ever happens, she's going to have every right to sue them because she's an amazing player. She's one of the best shooters out there.
Starting point is 00:37:20 But the New York Times article was just horrible. And now the media is really want Sophie out because she is exposing their hypocrisy. Yeah, a lot of off-the-court attention. What about all the other players who are beating up Caitlin Clark and trying to let men play in the league? They're not bringing off-the-court attention? I think they are. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:37:38 That's what I'm saying. What Sophie is doing just bringing attention for good, she simply said she didn't like, she didn't commit any kind of crime. All she did is that managed to stay out of women's sports. And that was enough for her to push media to get them out of the league, I don't even deal on fevers. You know, she is a horrible person, blah, blah, but if that ever happens,
Starting point is 00:38:07 everybody would know that she's been black-bold and she has every right to sue the league. Well, you pointed out that Sophie Cunningham, Caitlin Clark, they're really great inspirations for young female athletes. And I hope that sooner rather than later, Ennis Cantor Freedom is a great inspiration for young women athletes, too,
Starting point is 00:38:25 to show there's no limit they can transgress and there's no glass. ceiling, they can't smash their very tall heads through. And if anyone out there who thinks what I do is a stunt or it's not, they're being transphobic, literally. And I make this very clear. I'm not here to mock or make fun of any kind of personal decisions or group of people. I'm just literally following their rules.
Starting point is 00:38:49 If they change rules, I'll be the first one to follow and say, all right, I'm gone. Walk through the sunset. But if they don't, I will be breaking every record. If they don't do it, as long as they have the rules, you're here, you're queer, and you're Dunkin' that basketball. Ennis, thank you for coming by. Make sure, I've got to send you home. I brought with me here.
Starting point is 00:39:15 I smoke the Robusto and D. Coronas, but I brought the Ns size cigars. These are the Gordoes. I don't smoke, but if they ever change the rules, I will be making a video with these cigars. You holding that, it's like a cigarette. For me, it's like a police baton. See you next time.
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