The Michael Knowles Show - Test Your BIBLE IQ: Michael Knowles vs. Protestant

Episode Date: November 2, 2025

How well do you really know the Bible? In this episode, Michael Knowles goes head-to-head with Dr. Jeremiah Johnston — a world-renowned Bible scholar and Protestant apologist — in the ultimate “...Bible IQ” challenge. From scripture showdowns to theological debates, they test each other’s knowledge and beliefs to see who really knows their faith best. Catholic vs. Protestant — who wins? - - - Today's Sponsor: Catholic Match - Download the app or head to https://catholicmatch.com and find your forever. - - - Privacy Policy: https://www.dailywire.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:20 surprising this show and probably ruining my record at 5.50s. I can't wait. Thank you for having me. How you doing? So first of all, Everyone knows who Jeremiah is. You've seen his excellent interview. I say this with no flattery. One of the very best Michael-Ans we have ever done, seen by zillions of people on the Shroud of Turin. If you haven't seen it yet, go watch it now.
Starting point is 00:01:48 It's on Daily Wire Plus. It's on YouTube and everywhere else. How have you been, sir? I've been phenomenal. Michael, I'm just trying to follow in your footsteps. You're a scholar and you're a gentleman, brother. So I'm just doing my best out here. I will tell you this.
Starting point is 00:02:02 We're on a tour with the shroud all around the world. Every place I go, people walk up to me that watch Michael Knowles, and many of them now are following Jesus as a result of our interview on the Shroud of Turin. So how can we define success better than that? That is awesome. I love it. Now, you're also, you're setting me up with all these nice high expectations just to knock me down when you crushed me at Bible trivia. Okay, it is Theology Thursday.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Oh, this is going to be so awful. So awful. So awful. So it's Bible trivia miscellaneous. First question. The command, fear not, among other synonymous phrases such as do not be afraid, are widely known as the most repeated command in the Bible. How many times is it repeated closest without going over? And I'll be first, right? Because I'm, when it's a lady, we say ladies first. But if it's a guy, I go first. Okay. Closer to that going over. So this is angels talking about, this is our Lord, this is, gosh, in the whole Bible, all 73 books. Let's see, I don't know, 151. Jeremiah?
Starting point is 00:03:47 Is it my turn? Yes, oh, no. I'm going to go with the exact 365 times. Please tell if it's 364 I win it's 365 This is gonna be so Bad so someone said 331 on here. I'm not gonna look with it People actually were guessing it wrong. I always it's very offensive when I guess it and everyone in the chat knows the answer. Okay How old was Moses when he died? My turn? Yes
Starting point is 00:04:27 I'm gonna say how old he dies on Mount Nebo over the looking at the promised land. I've been to the prelase of his death. Is it 140? Am I close? Am I in the ballpark? 140? You say 140? It's like I can't I want the opportunity. Over under. It's yeah. What's closest for that going over. So I want the opportunity to beat you. Even though you're probably right. It's probably like literally 140 or or slightly higher. So I'm like, but I want the opportunity to beat you so much. I'm going to say 70 such that if it's 139, I Okay. I say 70. Okay. 120. Let's go! Let's go! All right.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Oh, yeah, baby. We're back. Okay. The shortest verse in the Bible consists of two words. What are those words and what book is it found in? Two possible points. Okay, the verse is Jesus wept, so I at least get my one point. And it's found in, gosh, I don't know what gospel it's found in. This is not just to be an excuse, but, you know, because Catholics, tend to read the Bible liturgically, you know, in like a one to three-year cycle. Like, I don't know. I don't like, uh, uh, is it in? I don't know, Luke. What do you think? What do you say? Well, we need to, we need to push back on Professor Jacob a little bit. Are we talking in the English Bible or the Greek New Testament? Because it's actually, there's actually a shorter verse
Starting point is 00:06:00 in the Greek New Testament. What's the shorter? I'm going to go, I can answer his question, but rejoice always in the Greek, there's a hundred, 38,000 words in the Greek New Testament, and so rejoice always in Philippians is technically the shortest verse in the Greek New Testament, which the New Testament books that we share were written in. But in the English translation, Jesus wept, I'm going with Matthew's gospel on that one. You say Matthew, okay, and I was about to say all that stuff about Philippians and everything. I just, you took that out of my mouth. Jesus wept.
Starting point is 00:06:32 You know what's weird? John. John 1135. John. John. on. Wow, I'm so glad that you got that wrong. So we're tied right now. Now, I almost want the, I want the equipment to break now so that I can say, well, we tied. You know, we tied. You mess me up on the English. Yeah. You mess me up on the English translation. All right, what is the only book in the
Starting point is 00:06:54 Bible that does not specifically mention God by name? Uh, huh. Your turn or my turn? Uh, your turn. And I actually, I don't even mean this just to poke and prod. This is for Professor Jacob. Are we talking about the Protestant Bible with 66 books? Are we talking about 73 books? Jacob is on a rendezvous with Destiny, so it's... Placidavis here. But it's just the real Bible, man.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Yeah, the real Bible. Yeah, this is included in yours as well. Okay. Now, can I give you a hint, Michael? Can I give you a lifeline hint? Yes, please. Please do. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:29 This is the one book that is also not included in the Dead Sea Scrolls. If that, in the Dead Sea Scrolls that we have, that we've recovered from Qumran, this is the one book that is not there. So that's a huge hint for you because it doesn't mention the divine name. If I were educated, Jeremiah, that would be a huge hint. If I were like knowledgeable and literate, that would be helpful to me. I appreciate your presuming that about me incorrectly. I don't Is it
Starting point is 00:08:07 So it's not a Dutero-cananical It's not It's It's I don't I'm gonna say like Ecclesiastes I don't know Okay
Starting point is 00:08:22 It's Old Testament And it's gonna be the book of Esther Which never mentions the name of God Esther Do I get credit Because I started with an E I picked Ecclesiastes Yes you do
Starting point is 00:08:33 Do I get any credit Do I get partial credit It's the book of Esther Wow. Okay. All right. Who was the only non-Jew referenced as anointed one in the Hebrew Bible? The only non-Jew? Well, that would be Melchizedek. He was so confident. I'm going to say Melchized. King of Salem. I can't believe you would mislead me like that, Jeremiah. It is apparently Cyrus the Great. Now, look, I don't know. This might be some sort of Semitic subversion by Professor Jacob.
Starting point is 00:09:16 I think, no, I think, I think, I think Professor Jacob needs help on this one. I think it might be Melchizedek, too. I've said it for years. Okay. King of Salem. As long as you didn't get it right and I got it wrong, I don't even, I don't even care. Okay, when Joseph was in prison in Egypt, he was with two other prisoners whose dreams he interpreted. What were the occupations of the two prisoners, two points possible?
Starting point is 00:09:36 Oh, man, I don't know. Do you remember, look at him, smiling. Look at it. Uh, uh, he was also not Jewish. Yeah, okay. Jacobs. Frequently wrong, but never in doubt. Thank you, Professor Babies.
Starting point is 00:09:55 I don't know. A barber and a farmer. That's what I say. A barber and a farmer. Did I get them both right? A barber. He was giving the trimming the sideburns of the Pharaoh. All right.
Starting point is 00:10:20 What's the answer? My turn. Yeah. I'm going to go because I try to read the picture Bible to my boys every night. So they would be a shame to me if I got this wrong. I'm going to go the two occupations when Joseph is in prison would be the baker and the cupbearer of the hang. The bait, yes.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Do you know actually how I first encounter that? Yeah, right. You know, the reason this is kind of embarrassing, I'm telling you on myself, because when I was a kid, I was in a production of Joseph in the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat. Even before, I think that was even before I read the book of Genesis in full for the first time. Okay. Cupbearer and Baker. Okay. I got the B-A. B-A. Do I get partial credit for that?
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Starting point is 00:12:33 Miriam. Song of the Sea, right? I'm going to say Miriam. Because that's what Jeremiah said. The answer is Miriam. Pretty good. Okay. Who was Moses's brother?
Starting point is 00:12:49 Wasn't... This is too easy. Yeah, wasn't Bob. Is this from Professor Jacob? Yeah, is that... Was it... Wait, am I... Gary.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Is this like really easy? I'm over thinking. It's like the easiest. question that I could possibly answer. Can I give you another hint? Remember they held up his arms? Remember who were the two men that held up his arms? And as long as Moses' arms were being held up, they had victory in battle.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Remember that? Such and such and such and such held up his arms in battle. I remember his arms being held up. Is this going to be, is this an answer that is obvious? Like, is it one of the most famous people in the Bible? Trying to think. Is his name also? a woman's name. Well, I mean, no. It is not a gender neutral name, thank God.
Starting point is 00:13:44 I'm going to tell you the name of the other guy. No, it's only going to prolong my torture. I say Bob. What say you? Okay. I'm going to say Aaron. No, hey, that's BS. You said it's not a, I said, is it also a woman's name? Because I was going to say Aaron. And you said it's not. Aaron is a woman's name. E, R. I want my point for Aaron. Give me my point for Aaron. He fooled me. That was deceit. I was thinking about how it was spelled. Yeah, that, no, I want my point.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Give me my point. It's Aaron. I want my point for that. That's outrageous. I should have had more confidence in one of the most famous figures in the Hebrew, Aaron. No woman was named Aaron in the Hebrew. I can assure you.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Now, look at this kind of deceit and fraud. What city's walls fell after the Israelites marched around it for seven days? This is, no, it's yours. I've been there. It's actually the oldest city in the world. and this would be none other than Jericho. Who fit the battle of it? This is a bonus point.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Who fit the battle up Jericho? Who fit the battle? Who fit to battle of Jericho, to quote some of my wonderful black Protestant brothers singing hymns? I'm not sure what that mean. Joshua fit the battle of Jericho. Am I going to get canceled for my African-American vernacular? I'm not used to the slang. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Do you not know? That's a great Baptist hymn. That's a great one. Josh fit to battle of Jericho. All right, I'm not, no more. I'm going to be canceled for even singing it. In Revelation, what color is the horse representing death? You mean the apocalypse?
Starting point is 00:15:33 Yes. I said that the other day to someone. I was like in the book of the apocalypse. And maybe it was Mr. Davies, looked at me like I was crazy. The apocalypse. Yeah. No, it's the apocalypse in Greek. That right, the horse is white.
Starting point is 00:15:46 I'm glad you said that because my answer, I was supposed to answer that one first, but I wanted you to answer for me because you know more. I think we get credit for this. It's pale or ashen. I think we get credit for that, right? Yeah. Well, oh. Actually, Whitehorse was like the first one with the crown, so I don't know if either one of you got that.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Oh, we might. Okay, all right. Pale. Okay, ready? Which prophet was taken captive to Babylon as a young man and interpreted, dreams for the king. Is it my... No, it's now it's...
Starting point is 00:16:22 Germize. You can go to the museum in Berlin, Germany, the Pergamum museum, and you can walk through the beautiful purple Ishtar gate that this prophet would have walked through when he was taken captive, likely at 14, 15, 16, one of my favorite verses in all the Old Testament in Daniel 1 verse 8, but Daniel purposed in his heart to serve the Lord as he was. walked through those horrible gates of Babylon. It's Daniel. Has to be. I did not know any of that or even, I don't know really anything about Germany. But I did know the Daniel part. I say Daniel. It is Daniel. Okay. Which prophet's name means salvation.
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Starting point is 00:17:34 Obsession, rated R. Under 17.9 a minute without parent. Only in theaters May 15th, with special engagements in Dolby. This is so brutal. Is it? It's my turn, right? Up against a guy who knows, like, old languages. I barely have Latin.
Starting point is 00:17:59 You have Latin very well. You're too kind. Itoverro. Itovero. Salvei. Isaiah? No, it's not. What is it? What is it? I'm going to go with Josea. Josea. It's Josea.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Do I get credit for Zaya? Do I get half credit for Zaya? Okay. What were no... Remember what they said, Michael. Remember what they said, Hosanna, He who comes in the name. That means, our God saves. That's too easy.
Starting point is 00:18:45 When Jesus, when they saw Jesus, they said Hosanna. That's like his sister, Hosanna. There's Jose and Hosanna. Okay, what were Noah's three sons' names? You're up. This is like a relatively, that's a pretty easy one. Is that Ham, Shem, and J-Peth? Am I right on that?
Starting point is 00:19:03 I believe you are. I believe. That's my answer as well. Yes. Shem, Ham, and J-Peth. You can't name a kid Ham anymore. You know a lot of my answers. Yeah, you can't... It's weird that you can't name a kid Ham anymore.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Where was the wedding that Jesus turned water into wine? I would say... His first miracle. No, let me try to... If, unfortunately, Jeremiah does know all the answers, but I... Like, I wish I could fake him out a little bit, you know? Be like... Be like it.
Starting point is 00:19:34 I don't even know how I would do it. It's Canna. He said, my time has not come yet to his mom. Yes. Yeah, it's Cana. Got it. It's Cana. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 00:19:42 I got one, I actually got two easy ones because of the Aaron one. How many total commandments are there in the Torah? This is in the Jewish version, not the like, you know, like fulfilled version. Well, how many commandments are there in the Torah? Oh, that's your late Second Temple Judaism. Late Second Temple Judaism, Jesus is approached by the nomikos, the grammatous in Greek, and they say, teacher, what is the greatest command? And they had this many to choose from.
Starting point is 00:20:12 trying to trap Jesus. And he responds with the great commandment, Matthew 2237. He says, love God with your heart, soul, and mind. Only how Jesus can. He messianizes Shama. There were 613 commands to choose from. Okay, now he said it so confidently. Like I want, because it's closest to that going over, I want to say there's like 11, because then, you know, then if it's 612, then I win. But he said it so confidently, I want to say he's right. I go with his answer. And the answer is 613. I'm glad I did not even say 612. And a half.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Okay, now there's one bonus question. Professor Jacob writes, DEI final question. How old was Aisha when Muhammad married her? It is nine, right? I think the answer is nine. What's your answer? I'm going to go with 11.
Starting point is 00:21:06 11. Okay. So, 9-11. That's crazy. fun wow we actually both got it wrong though I got it more right she was six
Starting point is 00:21:21 and then he waited until she was nine to sleep with her as Professor Jacob writes what a nice guy you're gonna give me like fat-twite with this don't I knew nine was in there so do I get half credit for that at all no I think I got beaten by Jeremiah
Starting point is 00:21:34 is that right I'm almost glad we both don't know the answer to that I know yes that's true yeah I'm not because then you got to pick she I or Sunni or Wahhab. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Jeremiah, I know we have this excellent book right here that everyone should order. The Peace of God Bible. Look at this. Very lovely. I mean, one can certainly speak to the content, but also just a lovely edition of the Bible to have.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Tell us a little bit about it before I let you go. My Galetzo kind of you. And that's the one I actually personalized to you. I took four years of my life to study the word shalom. There's 651 occurrences of the word peace in the Bible. I know that because I counted every single one, and I wrote 126,000 words tracing every single place where Shalom peace shows up. It's fascinating where in the Bible it shows up.
Starting point is 00:22:29 It's fascinating that it's God's will for every follower of Jesus to walk in his peace. It's not some kind of spiritual gift that only dealt to force Christians like you have, Michael, but every one of us need to have the peace of God. And so there's daily devotionals, all the book introductions, all the notes are how to help you walk in the peace of God. And it's a message we need now more than ever. So thank you for asking me. So it's so true, too, because even, look, I catch myself with this too. And I'm a pretty placid guy. But it's just, we're in a culture that is given to anxiety. And we're always, we're on stimulants all the time and, you know, coffee and nicotine. And our phones are probably the biggest stimulant of all. And people are just anxious, you know.
Starting point is 00:23:08 And so, you know, it's always important to connect oneself to the peace of God. But now it seems particularly urgent. Anyway, it's available now out from Thomas Nelson, great publisher. And what else are you working? You're always working on like a hundred different things. Well, thanks to our conversation that we had a few months ago on the top discoveries about Jesus, my next book is the Jesus discoveries. And I've just finished it.
Starting point is 00:23:32 It's the top 10 discoveries that bring us face to face with Jesus. And the book isn't even out yet. it's already making global headlines just because so many people are unaware that unlike all these other fake religions, Christianity puts itself to a historical evidential test. And what's cool about knowing about these discoveries is they bring us face to face with Jesus. They actually build us. And also I'm acquiring, by the way, from Zurich right now, a gold, Tiberius coin. Do you remember, Michael, when Jesus said, give unto Caesar, that which is Caesar, give God your life? I'm acquiring that coin right now. So I'm continuing to build a little.
Starting point is 00:24:07 my collection. So next time I come back, I'll bring more artifacts. That is cool. I have your statue of the man from the shroud. I have it in my office. A nice little brighter place. Okay. Jeremiah, wonderful to be with you. As always, thank you for coming in. Thank you to all of you. I'll see you all tomorrow. I'm Michael Noles. It's the Michael Nulls show. The right window treatments change everything. Your sleep, your privacy, the way every room looks and feels. At blinds.com, we've spent 30 years making it surprisingly simple to get exactly what your home needs. We've covered over 25 million windows and have 50,000 five-star reviews to prove we deliver. Whether you DIY it or want a pro to handle everything from measure to install, we have
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