The Michael Knowles Show - The Attack on Super Heroes | Eric July

Episode Date: August 5, 2021

Eric July Joins the show to discuss the radical changes being made to the comic book heroes and why that matters so much in the culture today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

I'm Michael Knowles, and this is the Michael Knowles Show. Everywhere I go lately, people tell me that I need to interview Eric July. It doesn't matter what state I'm in. It doesn't matter what we're talking about. I was at Tim Poole's place not so long ago. He said, you've got to talk to Eric July. I said, okay, I got to learn about this guy. So I look up Eric July, also known as Young RIPA 59.

I had already reserved Young RIPA 58, which is why he had to go to 59. He's got some really, really terrific commentary, in particular on the entertainment media and specifically about comic books. But this guy is a man of many, many talents. You also may have seen him in the Thomas Soul documentary, which is really terrific Thomas Soul, common sense in a senseless world. So we're going to try to make sense of this senseless world. Eric, thank you for coming on. Hey, appreciate you having me, Michael. Thank you so much.

So I need you to educate me about a topic on which I am entirely. ignorant. And this is the topic of comic books. I won't say that I'm entirely ignorant. Here is what I know. I only know what I read in the news that all of a sudden comic books, which I thought is just a fun thing that people, you know, either people with a very specific interest or, you know, people growing up, they read them. They keep hiring radical leftists to write them. In particular, there's that guy, Tahn Nahisi Coates, who I think maybe the single most overrated writer in America today. I'm a guy who wrote a book without any words, and I think that this guy is way, way over- rated. So tell me, I mean, is this just some strange coincidence? I mean, what is going on

behind the scenes in the comic books? Yeah, it's not a coincidence at all. It seems like within the last decade, I would say more so in the middle of the 2010s, you started to see this big time, like cultural shift in terms of who were writing these books. Now, often you'd get people that were already part of like the comic book culture, like you mentioned kind of, it is niche, it takes a certain kind of person to even write and be knowledgeable on these characters, definitely though, of the Marvels and the D.C.s and mainstream comics. And at some point, like the 2010s, they shifted and rather seemed to focus on hiring people that were more so fitting a particular social or political view. And this is why you got

guys like Tanya Hecy Coates, writing, unfortunately, Black Panther, one of my mom, favorite characters and he had no business being anything near that project, that intergalactic Wakanda or whatever weird thing he called himself doing. To me, it's the worst run of Black Panther that we've ever got. But you can check the receipts on that. Tana Heisi Coe's there's no evidence even that he was even like into comic books prior to being hired as a writer for for Marvel comics. So those are the types of hires that we're getting guys like Tanya Heiko's goes. It's a literal award with the Harriet Beecher Stowe War for Social Justice. I'm pretty sure that has something to do with why he fit that position.

And they seem to try to cater to people and bringing people on to write their projects, writing for people that don't read books. It does have a specific demographic and already established demographic. And their sales are really hurting. And you're seeing that because of that because they have focused on social views and political views as opposed to actually entertaining their audience. And this is why right now, for example, example, in America, in the West for the first time, I believe, ever. The NBD book scans read

that the Japanese comics, the mangas had, the top 20 were all mangas. In America, the top 20 sales were all manga because that's where people are going to get their more like kind of comic book, hero-based sort of material. They have just completely dumped a Marvel and they should be embarrassed, but it doesn't seem like they are because they keep doubling down. Well, this is one of the problems that I think conservatives are grappling with right now. So you look at the numbers, you look at book scan, Americans are not buying the American comics anymore. They're buying the Japanese comics. So what I think a lot of conservatives, what we've told ourselves for the past few decades of insane leftist aggression on the culture wars is we'll say, look, eventually

the almighty dollar is going to win out. They're going to put out really bad stories. And eventually, because they're not going to have any sales, they're going to be forced to go back to producing entertaining normal content. And I keep waiting, and I keep waiting for it from the movies. I don't read comic books, but I would be waiting for it from the comic books. And it just doesn't happen. So is it, are they just willing to take the financial loss to push the woke ideology? I think that's exactly what it is.

And I think, look, they did cater to a really flaky audience. I think that stuff kind of works a little more for the, like the, I guess the movies, film, TV shows, way more than it works for something like the comic books. But they are more, I guess maybe it's Twitter, maybe it's the Instagrams of the world, and they're more like signaling to that

kind of weird, bizarre audience, which does not even represent a significant portion of the population, at least not of actual customers. And yeah, they, just when you think they can't get worse, you see, again, and I believe that was April, top 20, you think these comic pros would be looking at that, like, okay, we got to pivot.

We have to pay, but we cannot just keep putting out this dog crap. And then I was just reading the other day, they put, for one odd reason, they made Elektra Daredevil now. Daredevil is no longer a guy. Electra's Daredevil. And she's being lectured by some, like, trans person about other bull crap. It's so out of character for not only Electra, but just that's what they're doing is Pride Month.

They're trying to signal and do all of that stuff. So, yeah, they keep doubling down. So I do think at some point the pendulum's going. a swing, but what will it take? It's hard to say. But things like DC, and this was what a lot of comic book fans feared, not myself necessarily, people that are way smarter than me, they feared once it went mainstream, mainstream, and used that in quotes. And I guess they got tied to these mega corporate entities. They could take that loss a lot more than what they could back in the past, so they're willing to take it. Probably guys at the top aren't even seeing it. We know they're not making

money, but you know how Disney works. Disney can do 10 projects. One of them can succeed and it'll be, it'll fund the rest of everything it is that they, that they do. So they can take the hit because they're not necessarily answering directly to the customers, like other, like more smaller entities have to. So that's the one benefit that they have. They can continue to take those loss because they're able to make up for the losses elsewhere. But it'll be interesting to see. There's been plenty of rumors and that maybe, you know, is AT&T, I believe, owns D.C. see now they're talking about selling that stuff off and we'll see how long Disney keeps a hold of it because the only thing that they can make money off of it is maybe the movies and

even those are starting to take take a downturn and a merchandise. But that's about it. As far as the books, don't be surprised if at some point even Marvel or Disney or AT&C say, you know, we're not even going to put these out. We may do reprints or something like that, but you guys aren't making any money. But it doesn't sound like they're in the business of actually making money. This is a problem throughout the corporate media. It's true in the news media. it's true in the movies. These entities are very often owned by much larger corporate entities who don't really care. You know, if the wokesters in the executive suites want to push a message,

they just don't really care about the relatively small amount of money they're going to lose. And I do think it's been a big problem that conservatives basically have thought that the most important issue to people, they wake up in a cold sweat in the middle of the night, thinking about some marginal tax cut and an occupational licensing reform. I like those things. I'm not against them. I'm just saying other impulses move men's hearts and minds. So I'm totally on board for fighting in the culture, taking back the culture, using our political power to do it. The thing I can't get that into is the comic books. I just, just as a personal mat, it's just a preference thing. Do I need to pay attention? Is the fact that these comic book characters are going totally woke? Is that actually going to to have tangible effects on our society, or is that one area that I can just ignore? It's a niche

interest, and I'll focus elsewhere. That's a great, great question. I think when you look at, for example, what, like for example, Hollywood in the last 10 years, I think you can't really ignore it because you look at the Marvel Cinematic Universe. For example, they were just pumping out billion-dollar films like it was going out of style. And that is, that's influential. And you're right, in terms of conservatives, libertarians. This is something I've been trying to shake their shoulders on, not necessarily with the comic books, but also with the other things that I do,

whether it be with the music stuff and everything else, I'm saying, yeah, we have the arguments on our side. But is that good enough? I don't think so. And this is what a lot of the left, I have to give them credit. They played the long game, and there was nothing off limits for them.

Nothing. I say if it was, the more influential that it was, they were like, all right, let's get a hold of it. And they played the long game. And I think what you're seeing now is the effects, especially over the last year, when you can't turn on. I can't even turn on a video game without seeing Black Lives Matter on freaking soccer game or something like FIFA. It's nonsense. Like I don't play video.

I'm supposed to get away with that. But I think the left had benefited from both libertarians and conservative thinking that those are trivial things. Like we don't, people don't care about that type of thing, but it's a very influential thing, especially when it comes to like younger generations. that stuff that they have their nose in so often that's something that they're intrigued by. And I'm like you in a sense that there are other subject matters that I simply do not care about. But I can't deny if they are important and if they are influential, definitely if someone is able to be more like they can communicate in whatever subculture it is that they are in. And I think that's if there's going to ever be a tide shift towards liberty, people that actually value liberty and private property rights, that's where it's going to happen. And it's not necessarily, I believe, politics, I believe that's more so on the downstream.

You change this in people's minds and hearts starts to change. And then maybe that manifests itself in other ways. Maybe it is in a political sphere. Maybe it's somewhere else. But the left, they have everything because for a very long time, both libertarians and conservatives neglected a lot of that. And we just simply didn't think it was as important as what it actually was. And this is why so many of these, like these younger folk, they got to make.

men. I mean, it doesn't matter what it is that they pump out. They walk right hand in hand with them. And yeah, they listen to them. That's right. You may not care about the culture, but the culture cares about you. And I know, people do this a lot with the pronoun issue. We'll say, should I call Bruce Jenner, he or she? And we, everyone gets into big debates about this. And some of the more squishy conservatives, they'll often say, who cares, right? It's the same thing on the comic books. It's the same thing on all these aspects of the culture. Oh, who cares? The left cares. The left seems to care quite a lot, which is why they're losing a lot of money pushing these messages. They're hiring these radicals like Ta-Nehisi coats. They're really focused on it because they know that the culture can carry whole premises through to it.

But I wonder, I wonder if part of it is conservatives and libertarians have just ignored it and they just don't really care that much. But also, what would we do with the power if we actually knew to wield it? By that, I mean, the left has a very specific vision of society. America is evil, racist, sexist, whatever, you know, it's all sort of terrible stuff. We've got to tear it down and pull down statues of Washington. Okay. What is the conservative response? What is our substantive view of things?

Do we have one? Or is it just that we can't really agree on anything? So the only thing we do when we have power is temporarily cut taxes a little bit? Yeah, see, that's always the question that I think is very difficult for people that, again, no matter what it is you call yourself, it's just if you value liberty. what's next? Obviously, you brought it, I mean, I believe that stems from obviously the Marxism. It is that they advocate where it's just anything that exists. They want to make sure they tear it down and build it up in a way or build it back up in a way that they envision it, this sort of anti-ant property rights, more radical egalitarian. I use that term loosely, egalitarian sort of approach where we're all like equal robots when we know that's absolutely not the case, but let them tell it that's what they believe. I think This is why, like, I was focused so much on, like, decentralization so much because if anything, if there's anything else to focus on, because you're right, I do believe that there's a lot of people that value liberty that are on different sides of just different, like, subject matters. They, they differ so much.

And it's like, okay, I just want to be left alone, right? The left doesn't want to leave you alone. And this is why they get the power. And they're like, look, we're, we're here to destroy. And they're pretty blatant and pretty honest about it. We just want to be left alone. and we want other people to just be able to go about their life without being able to either be aggressed upon and obviously them not having the right to use aggression upon upon peaceful people.

And this is why that has to stay at the top. If you are in any sort of advocacy position or really in any position of influence, it has to stay at the top and you have to be loud. And unfortunately, a lot of conservatives seem to lose sight of that. Even the ones that, you know, focus a lot on, okay, I just want to own the libs and stuff like that. I mean, I get it, but is that actually going to work us towards a more freer, a more prosperous society, right? And this is why decentralization is such a focus of mine because it's like, we're not going to agree on how this power needs to be willed. So at minimum, if we can try to like get rid of it, so where we don't have Nancy Pelosi and these other quacks out of that there and Washington, I've made this argument on the blaze.

Every day that I'm there, I'm less about arguing with Nancy Pelosi about who should be. in her position. I want to pull the rock from up under her so she doesn't have any sort of influence so they can't make the decisions that it is that more so impacts our life. This is why we get so up in arm. So maybe we have to change that part of the power structure as opposed to just wielding it and just all right focusing on, yeah, we may get a tax cut here. We may get a tax cut there, but it has to come with mountains of like corporate welfare and all sorts of things that we're funding that compromise. Definitely we see this with a lot of leaving the conservatives, they'll compromise on, or with Republicans, compromise on certain things. Okay,

we'll give you this, this and that. Portfield bill, $2 trillion, let's devalue your money in the first place. And we don't really work towards liberty. And that's what has to be kept in the mind. I wish I would, I would love to hear or see, rather, Republicans actually keeping that at the forefront of what their advocacy actually is. The term that I like to use is that they tend to campaign like libertarians and then govern like Democrats. I would love to change that. Well, there's this strange paradigm. I don't know if it's really a paradox, but it is a strange circumstance that at least since Reagan,

at least since Republicans have really embraced, as you say, the kind of libertarian language on the campaign trail, they actually have put forward some policies in that direction. You know, they've focused a lot on economic deregulation. Okay. And the Democrats, I find, since around the same time, maybe a little earlier, have focused a lot on social deregulation. You know, you can sleep with whoever you want. You can kill a baby in the womb. You can kind of do whatever you want. And so, you know, in a weird way, they've both kind of deregulated. And yet, as you rightly point out, we seem to be in the most centralized, powerful government, you know, maybe in the history of the world. So how does that happen? I mean, how has a process that I don't think is just totally disingenuous? I think they actually have deregulated in certain pretty noticeable ways. But how has that deregulation then led to a more powerful centralized government? I can't make sense of it. Right.

And I think it's because they're not focusing on the, I guess, the power more so in itself. It's more so, okay, I'll take this slight victory here. It's more topic to topic. And I'm not against like single issues or focusing on. People have their expertise and stuff that they actually value. And I think that's a valuable thing that people focus on whatever it is that they find as their strengths or something that it is that they care about. But what happens is they lose sight of what the actual, like, core principle is.

And that's liberty. For example, this is why I don't take leftist serious when they complain about, let's say, things like police brutality. That is not anything to take serious from them because they have no problem with the cops whooping up on you in the event, any event that it's for something that they, want to to advocate for, which is why they're like non-existent any event. Or they'll be like contradict themselves like we saw with the old January 6th thing. They're doing vigils and all of this for that lie of Brian Sicknick being beat over the head with a fire extinguisher, which was of course

turned out to not even be true. But that's the type of stuff that they do because for them, it's less, it's not necessarily about the deregulation. It's more about what can we do to destabilize, let's say, what exists right now. So we can act. actually capture that power. So this is why, even though they claim to be, okay, like even with the drugs, they like to think that they're the party against the war on drugs, which is bull crap, but they like to think that. But it seems to always lead, like to what you said, more centralization. That's because liberty isn't really on their focus. It's more single issue, single issue, what do I have to do or what do I have to advocate to become prominent and to get the power?

And when you don't focus on the private property right element of what it is that we're discussing, then yeah, you're going to lose sight of that. And this is what we have right now. Big bloated, centralized mess. And unfortunately, it's ruining a lot of people's lives. And you've totally hit the nail on the head on this power struggle. I notice even on the issues where they talk about liberty, you'll notice, they never really mean liberty in the way that a conservative person would talk about it.

They mean licentiousness. They're not really interested in the liberty to tamp down your appetite. and govern yourself and exert political control. They only talk about liberty in like shooting up dope or something. Liberty is to kind of degrade us and take us out of our heads. What degeneracy did in anything. That's right. Yeah.

I mean, these are things, by the way, the Founding Fathers explicitly said. They said, do not abuse liberty to licentiousness. It's a bad idea. You're going to lose yourself government if you do that. So they do this all the time. But then I wonder, do conservatives need, and I wonder this, you know, this is sort of a thesis that I've put out there. I know it's very controversial. But do conservatives need a substantive vision? Meaning what we've tried to do, I think with the best of intentions, is nothing. And what I mean by that is,

you know, you get power and you say, I'm not going to regulate, I'm not going to do this, I'm not going to, we're going to let people make their own decisions, leave them alone. And then the left won't leave anybody alone. And the left won't let anybody be left alone. And it's just not going to happen. So, you know, a Republican wins, and we basically freeze the culture. And we say, okay, we've got sort of a break for the next two or four years. And then the Democrats win and they push the culture to the left. And then maybe a Republican wins and we freeze it again. And so, you know, if you follow that process, we're going to be over the cliff on the left and not too far into the future.

So how do we reverse it? How do we go in the other direction? Right. And this is why, you know, malice and other guys use the whole, well, this is where they're like progressives going to speed limit. It's more so what it is that you're saying. And this is what frustrates me so much, probably the most, about a lot of Republicans that are in the positions of power. Because often they're never on the offense.

Right. Always on the defense. They're always on the defense. And even when it comes to something as fundamental, like, which is where libertarians, conservatives, we all agree, value the, like, gun ownership, gun rights, the Second Amendment. They only get on the offense when they think that a Democrat is taking it to them. So we got, for example, I'm out where I'm out. in Texas. And, you know, we got Governor Abbott who calls itself trying to basically make

Texas a sanctuary city in terms of the Second Amendment. What took you so long? Like, why all of a sudden are you now on the offense and we've seen it? It's more so when, like I said, they're more about owning the lives. It's more so taking it to them and being against them. And this is what I called about the election. I said, don't be so frightened to really think that they're just going to get this power and do whatever it is that they want, they'll. They'll, they'll attempt to do, but what you're going to see is a more offensive Republican Party, or at least the ones that, you know, semi-value liberty, you're going to see a more offensive Republican Party because now they can at least make the excuse that, well, we're trying

to stop them or we're trying to take it, take it to them in some way. So what the, what people that, if you desire any sort of political power, whatever it is, you have to be on the absolute offense, but just sitting there and thinking, well, I'm in this position, will be on the defense for as long as my term is, isn't an. effective thing and you've seen that leftists get in power and they're like I'm implementing whatever it is that I can and maybe this conversation maybe it won't happen right now but I at least get the conversation started in four or five years from now something gets implemented and you know we're moving it's not moving towards liberty it's moving to the absolute opposite way so

they have to get on the offense and stop more so being reactionary and waiting for them to do something the leftists do something and then people that are in power be libertarians or servitors or whoever, they're like, okay, now I'm going to do something. How about do something all the time? You know, you've hit the nail on the head here, especially with this pun offensive. And I think of Trump, who goes on the offense, and he is offensive. He says offensive things, but it is important. I'm not saying people need to be impolite. I'm not saying they need to be cruel or anything like that. But Trump calls it like he sees it. And he doesn't engage in these sort of abstract, ideological things at a think tank somewhere. And he, crucially, doesn't accept

the left's premises. He launches his campaign. What does he do? He comes down the escalator and he says, look, we've got foreign nationals pouring into our country with crime and drugs and it's ruining communities. And people hate this country now. And I'm not going to let you do. I'm going to hug the American flag. He literally would hug it. He'd kiss the American flag. He'd say, look, I don't care about your kooky theories. We're going to stand up. We're going to get better trade deals. We're going to bring manufacturing back. You think we can? I think we can. Looks like we can. And, you know, it's such a, he always had the Democrats on the back foot. He always had them reacting to whatever he tweeted. That's why they had to kick him off Twitter's because he was setting the

narrative. And I guess this actually brings us right back to our first topic. The left with few exceptions, maybe Trump is the one exception. The left sets the narrative, right? The left decides the terms of what we can say, of how we behave, of even what we think, and we're all left just living in their world. That's a, I mean, you put it about as perfectly as it could be. And that's why I've said about the Trump phenomenon, it's less about the policies with him, whether you feel like, you know, obviously me not being a big, not being a fan of him or others, I said, that doesn't matter. The thing to focus on with him that anybody of any, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that,

is in a political sphere can take from that is the fact that he at least controlled the conversation probably for the first time. If we want to be realistic, you mentioned since Reagan, maybe since then that they actually control the conversation. So the leftist will react and based upon everything it is that he did as opposed to what they had been doing classically and back to really what they're doing right now. And that's being on the complete defense. So that's something that people can learn from what I love for those policies to be at, I mean, top liberty, more than everything, of course. That's what it is that we want. And that's the perfect storm or rather the perfect world. We have someone that 100% values liberty, I'll take 90, 90% values liberty,

but is also on the offense in trying to bring about that in our world and really within our lifetime, because this is something that we want. So we have to stop reacting based upon what the left is doing. This is what I've been saying with, for example, people that value liberty, like, say, in the cultural space. The number I've thrown out there is 51%. 50% is all I ask of people to go out of their way and search for people that are in these subcultures, because we're here, we're here in these subcultures and use 50% of your time, money, the good stuff, not the corny stuff that, yeah, there's people that are making alternatives that aren't really good, but think they should be supported just because they create an all.

No, there are people that actually do good stuff. And I think with 51% of people just going out their way looking, instead of being reactionary, go out of your way and look for this material that's out there. And then you'll start to see the pendulum, the pendulum swings. Because right now, really, they're able to get away with what it is because well and everything it is that we do, we accept them as like the norm. That's why they have the entertainment sector. And we accept it has to be Star Wars. It has to be DC. It has to be Marvel. It has to be Star Trek. And they've ran all of those into the ground and they control them and we have to unfortunately, we got to say, look, they got them. They have them. Maybe we should be looking to a certain alternatives to try

to get the pendulum to swing back. That's great. I love your point that we can't make corny stuff. You know, there's so much corny stuff on the right. I think I can't watch it, man. Yeah, it's, you know, really, we're here, you know, at Daily Wire, moved to Nashville basically to make movies because there was so much less regulation. Taxes were a lot lower and really give us the freedom to make stuff. And I think so many of us just want the freedom to make stuff. And you know, you've reminded me in your discussion of liberty. The left always redefines the words, right? They always pervert the language. That's how they redefine the culture. And they know where is that truer than on liberty. They define liberty. You know, the founding fathers had a pretty

decent definition of liberty. And people, John Locke, for that matter, had a real, it was a lit, his liberty, you know, you had Locke, you had John Milton, sure. And Burke, I think, expressed it the best, you know, this kind of ordered liberty that lets everybody flourish and it's just a really civilized, great way to live. And the left has just totally perverted that, flipped it on its head as they have so much of our language, they have so much of our culture. And so, okay, we've thoroughly depressed everybody. Is there any hope? I mean, in a really nuts and bolts way, how do I walk into Marvel or DC tomorrow and I say, hey, I have no idea what your product is, but I want to, I want to write it now. I want to take it back. How do?

How do we reclaim these institutions that the left has taken from us? I think there's two ways to attack this. Great question. First and foremost, there are a lot of people who reach out to me, definitely because comic books are the main thing that I cover. I cannot tell you the amounts of artists, writers, who have reached out to me. A lot of the prints that you see, one's on my wall. I won't even point to which one it is.

But a lot of the prints that I get are directly from the artist. I love that poster that is of this. So what did you get that? It was signed and everything. The artist sent it to me. The artist sent it to me. And they're like, well, this is more like an undercover thing because they don't want to end up like Gina Carano.

And it's like, well, I agree with a lot of what you say. It's crazy this industry, but I can't see it. I get that with music, my band backwards. We go on tour and we see drummers and whatever of other bands. Man, we love what it is that you guys say. We can't say that. Uh-huh. Yeah, you can.

And until y'all do it, nothing changes. Now the other side is, I guess, on the customer because we got people that valued liberty got too comfortable. And we neglected it. And we were just like, okay, if I like it, I see it. I'm not even going to be mindful of who's creating it. I don't care. And unfortunately, they make money off of the people that value liberty because of that. And then they win awards and then they get on award show and tell you how much they hated you because you didn't vote for the right person.

So this is why I'm not as, though I know I talk about the bad a lot, I'm not necessarily pessimistic. because just as quick as it got bad, it can get better. But what it does requires a conscious effort for people to go out of their way and seek this disinformation instead of just relying upon what the people that have already gained their control, what they put out there. We've talked about Twitter and the trending topics. All of those are fake bought, all of that stuff. It's not organic or anything like that, but they'll put it in your face and have you

thinking that it's legitimate. So what people have to do is go out of their weight. This is why I said 51%. I can't expect you to just stop all together. Wouldn't that be nice? If people just said, okay, if it's a homebody's crazy leftist, I'm not even going to support it. That'd be fantastic. But I think that's a little unrealistic.

This is why I just say just slightly over half of your money, time and effort and revenue investments, going towards people that are involved in these subcultures. It's not about them, let's say, being a libertarian, being a conservative or something like that. It's more of them, I don't know, not hating you. You know, instead of supporting the ones that do. So just as quick as it did get bad, it can get better, but it just requires the customers to think differently. And I know because we have the ideas on our side, we'd love to be in a perfect world. Well, that didn't matter.

But they have already drew the line in the sand and it is what it is. They've made it abundantly clear that they will take your money and investments and then tell you how much you suck. So let's try to change that and go seek out those people who, who, who, are the actual creatives and the people that are the creatives that are already, let's say, maybe with those mega entities, out yourself, out yourself, and it's got to be on the customers to go catch them. That's right. That's the key. It's not enough to say, hey, Eric, hey, I, I like what you said, but I can't. I don't want to, you know, no, you know what, you know what is

even better than getting invited to the fun party or getting the promotion at your woke corporation. You know what's even better than that? Integrity. Having integrity is good and having a good thriving, flourishing, free country with a good way of life. That's important, too. Eric, where can people find you? You can find me, of course, YouTube, Young Ripper 5-9. Also, Eric D.Jalai, if you want to get links to everything, I know I do a million things at once.

So you can catch me, of course, over there, and we do for Canon sake, let's say every day, 12 p.m. on the channel, you can catch that as well. And obviously, doing news and why it matters and everything over at Blaze. This has been awesome, by the way, Michael and I'm. appreciate, you know, you having me on. Like I said, we cross-passed a lot, and I think it's important that we do have these conversations so they know that we're locked in. Oh, pleasure is all mine.

I'm so glad you could come on. Don't forget you can find me at Young Ripper 58. And then because that one was already taken, you can find Eric July at Young Ripper 59. Eric, talk to you next time. All right, man. See you soon.