The Michael Knowles Show - YES or NO with Candace Owens

Episode Date: August 5, 2023

Candace Owens joins the show to answer tough questions with a simple "yes" or "no." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Men who don't work out are like women who cry on TikTok after their pet bunny dies. It's disordered, weak, and hard to look at. That's just funny. When women are pregnant, they eat for two. When my female friends are pregnant, I drink for two. As I will today on this episode of the Yes or No Game with my friend, Candice Owens. Now, before we get to my guest, you've got to order this game. The Yes or No Game is available.

right now, dailywire.com slash shop. You can test your knowledge of your friends and loved ones, up to nine players, all sorts of questions covering every single topic. Dailywire.com slash shop. And now I will figure out which of my friend and loved one knows the other one better right now. I just want to be forthcoming. I am a sore loser. I know. So I will go on the table. Yeah, I believe it. If the results are not that I win. But you're going to have one advantage, which is, I think this is non-alcoholic. Oh, I thought you were going to say people will be understanding because I'm pregnant. Yeah.

No, that's true also. But I think it's non-alcoholic. Otherwise, your baby number three will just have a lovely time. Yeah. Do you know the rules? I know the rules. Okay. And you know, that's how I feel too.

Yeah. You know ladies go first. Okay. You take the first card. Okay. Do I read this out loud? Yeah. Okay.

Good. Princess Diana's death was an accident. Such a good one. Who does this stuff? Such a good one because it's so obvious. Okay, ready? Now you take mine. What I think you're going to say?

One, two, three. Awful convenient, that tunnel in Paris, isn't it? Awful convenient. Did I get your guess right? No. You think it was an accident? I'm like the biggest conspiracy fears, but I actually think that one might have just been an accident. Is it just because you're friends with the Windsor's?

No, no. It's just straight. Prince Phillips gone. You don't need to protect him anymore. It's weird. You know what it is? I think I haven't looked into that one enough. But, and I just have memories when I was a kid of that happening and everyone being like, it was an accident. And I just accepted the truth. Yeah. I accepted that the mainstream media was telling me a truth. Yeah, they would never lie to you. They would never lie. Of course. And the thing is, her continued existence only threatened the last major monarchy in the West. Is that the theory? Well, she was, you know, it's kind of weird for your future queen to be divorced from the future king and then for her to be shacking up with some like Arab guy.

I don't know. I think the Arab guy's Prince Harry's dad, though. Now that's a theory I could not hurt. See, the red hair, it's from Genghis Khan, actually. It's recessive. Okay. So now I go. Given that they make up only 6% of the population,

and are responsible for 65% of all related deaths. Pit bulls should be outlawed as pets. A little edgy fellows. Oh, wow. Al-a-a-old as pets. Yes. I don't think about your answer. Okay.

Let's go. Oh, wait, I go this way. Correct? That's correct. I would say no. Really? You're fine with pit bulls? No, no.

I'm not fine with pit bulls at all. But I think if you outlaw it, it just brings into question a lot of other things that we'd have to consider more deeply. And I would say, I think people should not own Pipples. I am so against Pipples. I think it is ridiculous when people are like, it's been done your owner. It's like, how many more stories can the people that said it depends on the owner than get eaten by the Pipples? Yeah, yeah. No, it's always, it's always the owner.

It's not the owner. It's like an aggressive dog. I am especially, I think, I would offer that I do think it should be outlawed around children. I think when you have a small child and you have pit bull, it should be outlawed. You should not be allowed to have pit bull. But then what if, let's say it's just a single guy when he's got a pit bull. He's going to take the dog for a walk. You're going to go to the park.

Yeah. And there's going to be kids at the park. But you could, you can. Is he going to take him the park? Well, also now, if he goes to one of these millennial parks, it's just only dogs. It's only millennials and dogs. Right. Yeah.

Yeah. Maybe in like certain places, too, like in New York City where there's just like a lot of humans. But I guess if you're like living in Columbia, Tennessee and you've got it, 800 acres. I mean, what's they're going to kill a deer? Yeah. If you're in the steplands of Central Asia, you can have a pit bull. But I just think it's ridiculous of people. Like, I think we should be responsible enough to stop buying pit bulls and especially putting them around small children because truth is, is they're just aggressive. I mean, I just read a story about one got off the leash and ran across the street

and killed somebody's dog and then vaults from his face. I'm just like, every other's new story. And you look at the statistics. And it's like, it's telling the story. They're like, no, it's the owner. I'm like, is everybody, everybody's got a pit bull is just training their pit bulls to do these things? Right. Also, the thing that they forget about, they're anthropomorphizing dogs in a way that is only going to get worse as millennials treat their dogs as children, but dogs don't have reason. So it's true if you train a dog in a bad way, the dog is going to maybe behave worse and if you train them in a good way. But it's not as though the dog can reason about abstract things like justice and the morality of chomping on a little toddler or something like

that. So you just can't blame the dog. You can't blame the pit bull when he eats the toddler. That's his instinct. That's his genetics. Especially because as they age, all dogs and cats get ornery anyways. Do you what I mean? Like my cat, as she got older, she was just like less tolerant and like she swiped once. Never has ever even hissed at me nothing. But then my baby was born and he was pulling at her and she just swipes. Like she's an animal. You know what I mean? So her instinct when something's pulling out her face is to swipe. And I think people are completely diluted when it comes to people, I did a whole episode on this. But I would stop short of saying to outlaw them because I think there are probably deeper considerations there. It might be, it might be a slippery

slope. Like a libertarian kind of thing? You just, you're no libertarian. I'm definitely not a libertarian. I just, I have to think about that one. Okay. All right. All right. Well, I'll drink anyway. I don't. You have to drink. It's unclear. You have to take a big, I don't even know me. I'll take a little gulp. Yeah. Okay. I might change the mind of Princess. I am. So I might have you grow that back up. All right. And I'll move your card too. We have a nice old discard pile. My team is hotter than your team. This is not taking a lot of thought for me.

I think that you would have to agree. Yeah, I mean, do I have eyes? Yeah, exactly. And reason? And two brain cells to rub together? Yeah, obviously. My team is hotter than your team. And who are you going to compare? I've got Mr. Davies and producer Jacob. Guys, guys, I've got girls like, that was a very, easy one. That was a very simple one. So if you get it right, do I drink? I always play by the rule. If you get it wrong, you have to drink. If you get it right, you get to drink. Well, I'm batting

whatever it is. You're betting a thousand. Yeah. When you're doing really well. Those are, oh, okay. I just know you so well. You do know me so well. Listen, I'm an open book. Yeah. But you, you're a mystery wrapped in an am. Even after all these years, I are still. Unless you're a total lib, it's clear that women should keep it. it zipped while at church. Really interesting diction. Yeah, I like the way it's being presented. I forgot to bring this back in the middle.

Unless you're a total lib, women should keep it zipped at church. I would say because of the wording, actually, the statement. It's perfectly right for women to take part in the solemn high mass, in the Salvei Regina, in some of the chanting, and some of the responses. you know, et com spiritu too, that sort of, no, I'm not, they shouldn't be preaching or doing any of these parading rituals. That's what I was thinking. I thought they're like preaching, which is why I would say yes.

Obviously, yeah, obviously they shouldn't be. Yeah, they should not be preaching. But they speak at all in the church. Should they speak at all? From the wider question. Now, in the low mass? Yeah. But really nobody should.

Yeah, you got me right on that one. Okay. You got me right on that one. But should they preach? Absolutely not. Absolutely. Under no. It's just the most absurd thing.

ever. And it's part of the reason why I have a lot of questions about Protestantism. There's a lot of that going on. Yeah. You're on a journey. I'm on a journey. You're on a journey. Aren't we all? Aren't we all? Okay. Wasn't there a big split with the Baptists over this? There was. There's one of the big Baptists. Yeah. Out in L.A. Yeah. He, he... Mega church. I thought he was a conservative guy, but then he was promoting priestesses. Suddenly he said, priestesses are a thing, and he apologized to women. And I just thought to myself, it's is how we're going to end up with homosexuals in the church. For sure.

It's always going to say, I read the scripture, and I've done research, and actually, it's totally fine to be a homosexual and lead a church. And it's totally fine to be trans. Once you start seeing how you interpret the scripture, it becomes very problematic, very fast. And that is the reason why Methodist churches are flying the LGBTQ, I don't know how many letters they've tacked on since flag. No, the main line is completely gone. My priest in New York, great friend of mine, was an Episcopalian priest.

he became a Catholic priest over this priestesses thing back in the 70s. And I said, a friend of mine might become an Anglican priest. And he said, Michael, that's not like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. It's like grabbing hold as the Titanic goes all the way down. And so all the main line is gone. But I thought the evangelicals and the Baptists and things like that, the low churches, I thought among Protestants, I thought they were doing relatively better. But then all this stuff starts infecting them too.

Yeah. Well, yeah, to be fair, when they had. when they took a vote. Oh, they booted the guy out. Yeah, they did boot him out. Yeah. So there is that. But there were, it wasn't, by, the margins were not 100%.

I mean, it was literally like, I think, I don't know, maybe some like 15 of the churches voted like, yes, they should still stay in. And I was like, this is a problem. Like, even the vote is a problem. On the basis of your vote, if you wanted, yes, they should stay in, you should be kicked out. And the thing, the way, the feminists frame it as, unless we have the women take over all these traditions, male spaces, you're going to have weak women. And I think a weak woman, like all the great female saints of the church, like St. Lucy, like Teresa Vavila, all the really strong modern women present company. I'm not flattering you. Present company very much included. Compared to what,

some like a shrieky little feminist or something? Give me a break. Well, I'm just saying women in leadership roles in general, whether it's even women casting ballots and voting, because we vote emotionally. Based. Based. And every problem that we're we have today. The women open the door to the gays and lesbians and trans. Like, who do you think is behind the transgender? What are we going to feel bad for them? It's us. Right. And it's because, by the way, it's a good thing that we're more emotional. It works for a lot of reasons. It's a strength. Emotionality is a strength, especially in the household. Oh, yeah. I talk about this whole time on my show. But then outside of the household, it's not necessarily a good thing you need,

you need to have people that are willing to stand up and draw a definitive line and say this can't happen. And I think the greatest recent example of that is the Bud Light scandal. Like, Dylan Mulvaney was just like prancing around. He was in all of these female spaces. Women were like, I'm not going to say anything. It's like he's like, it's like, lady, stand up for yourself. He feels like a woman. It's like whatever. Literally just watching ourselves be eradicated. And then like he opens one solitary can of beer. And now you've got Kid Rock, Kid Rock, Kid Rock exploding beer cans. They're done. John Rich. Yeah, they're just like, no, no, this is done. Like it's banned from, but men just don't tolerate that. And so that is kind of a present day

example of why women in leadership positions, you know, we bend. We bend. Right. No, and you're so right, just even historically how this works, because when you had feminism really come to the four in the 70s, late 60s, early 70s, immediately afterward, you had all of the rainbow LGBT stuff and then that culminates in transgenderism. And it happens because feminism says men and women are the same. Well, if men and women are the same, then a boyfriend and a boyfriend is the same as a girl. and a boyfriend is the same as, and a husband and a wife is the same as a husband and a husband. It all just kind of blends together. Right.

You know, to your point on your very provocative comment about women voting, there is a whole part of history that was written out, which is the women who opposed women's suffrage. And they wrote at length about this, and they spoke at length about this. And it was the majority of women, actually. Yeah, I know. People don't know that. And today, you know, it's over. know, clearly. It's not a live debate. But it is rather misogynistic to not take those women

seriously. They were just a bunch of stupid, dumb housewives. I don't know. I think... The minority on this, which is kind of interesting. Yeah, right. Right. Yeah. And you see it now. You see the results of that. A lot of things are happening in the society actually, quote, was very funny. I tweeted because I was thinking about doing this whole episode about whether or not women. Have we been responsible with our vote? I said, not should we have the right to vote? Have we been responsible? And I said, we're measured. Working on an episode can you name one thing in society that has gotten better since women have gotten the right to vote?

And no women were able to answer the question because they were too emotional about the question being asked. I was like, this is all the proof I need. They were like, how dare you ask this question? How could you say this? I'm like, guys, I have not said an answer here with something implied.

I'm asking you, if there's plenty of stuff that have gotten better, just write it in the comment section. No one could even gather themselves because the question made them so emotional and therein lied my answer. I'll tell you, I've had two friends in my life who are, you know, people I really respected, who questioned the 19th Amendment.

So you and Anne Coulter. Yeah. Well, yes. Both very sharp ladies. Both women and both very sharp. Yeah. Currently, if going up against the Trumpers, the Ramoswami Mommies actually have a better chance of getting their guy in the White House than the Sims do.

Yes or no? In the primary against the Trumpers. Who does better the Ramoswami Mami. First I've heard that term, but I'm liking that. That's quite a term. Or the DeSimps. The Ramoswami Mami seems kind of nice. The DeSimps seems not, doesn't say that.

I didn't write this. I just want to be very clear. This is, someone has a bias. Somebody. Okay. Okay. You're putting me over here on your side. I don't know how this works.

You're going to do it on. You're saying yes or no. You're going to go to say no. Okay. At least I was on no. At least I had like, you know, generally speaking. There's two yes. You know, probably just need one on his table.

You only, so you're right. That's true. Yeah, you just think one yes and one. No. That's for the designers. So I said that you would say that the Ramoswami Mommies have a better shot than the Dism. That is correct. I would say absolutely. And I, you got me right. Yeah. I think the Dysmps have a better shot than the Ramoswami Lommies against the Trumpers. I think the DeSimps are just, the comms team, they're not likable. They, they, it is really actually, you tweeted this, I think yesterday, but I tweeted it like three weeks ago. I just saw it and I was like, their team has completely crushed his chances. And it's because they're so angry at the Trumpers, but they're angry at like 0.000,000, 17% of people that are young at them online. Yes. And they're like basically making every person that supports Trump guilty of the sins of maybe four people that they're fighting online. And it's actually making them lose.

Like they need Trump support. And it's just prudentially, it's insane. I, it's not that I thought you were wrong when you made this point. It's not, I was a little skeptical because I had never experienced it firsthand. And then this happened to me yesterday because I, I tweeted out, it was after they all got upset that Trump said that Xi Jinping is a, as an impressive leader. And I said, look, one, he's just bragging about how he beat an impressive leader at a trade deal. But two, there is a strain of conservatism that kind of admires Xi Jinping because he keeps his country in order and because he governs, according to some conception, albeit perhaps misguided of the common good. And that's not the

libertarian kind of right-wing stuff, but there is a strain of traditional conservative thought that kind of admires strong leaders who keep their country together. Yeah, sort of like people that admire Vladimir Putin, sort of like the people who say, look, I don't like Putin, but I admire that he's done this, that, or the other thing, right? And all of a sudden, it's not that I was attacked by conservatives randomly who don't like Shishin-Pink. It was these DeSantis accounts. I'm not saying they're being paid by the campaign or anything, But they all have the little alligator and their accounts that exist basically just to promote DeSantis. And they started attacking me.

And I thought, and kind of personally attacking me and they're probably still doing it. And I thought, this is really strange. I am not endorsing in the primary. I praise Ron DeSantis for something or another. Almost every day on my show. I have spent some time with Ron DeSantis.

I really like him. I also really like Donald Trump. So I think if you're going after me, the most, I'm calling it like I sees it, how many voters are you turning off? Look, the Trump voters, the Trump campaign doesn't need to worry about this. Trump's have 30 points in the polls. DeSantis is down at 20% or less.

They have to win over a huge number of Trump voters. And so if you're just going to personally, viciously attack, it reflects so poorly on the candidate. Even though Ron DeSantis personally has nothing to do with this, you know, it's just a very poor reflection of an otherwise, I think good can. It's exactly what I was very even keel going into it. I was interested to see how things played out,

wasn't committed to any candidate, felt how I felt about Rana Sancent. I liked the way he kind of entered in. Yeah, you were always skeptical of the race, but not enough to like attack him or say anything was wrong with him. And then his Christina Pushshaw was in comms. She is quite vicious.

And she, you know, she's always been nice to me. She went after me. And it was a step on your head while you're drowning, go after someone by liking a bunch of Twitter. tweets and tweeting, like sub-tweeting things to suggest that I was responsible for what Kanye West said. Oh, the Kanye. So it was like, you know, it was jumping on that. But it's just like, okay, you are running an account that says that you represent the ideas of, of Ron DeSantis. You're just pushing people away, right? Like if there's like not, so they do that all the time,

though. It's not just like she weighs on issues. She has nothing to do with Ron DeSantis, but she is the voice for Ron DeSantis. And so when she does that, people assume this must be what Ron DeSantis thinks about this. She shouldn't do that. So that's why I said. I said, they thought they had a Kaylee McInachian, who was excellent when she was press secretary, right? She was a sharpshooter, but she didn't speak about things that Trump wasn't concerned about. So they're not able to separate their personal feelings from what Ron's feelings are. And when people are seeing it, like they're reflecting it. It's actually hurting Ron.

So that's my take on it. I think, I think their campaign, whereas they pretend to be above it, they're like, we're different from Trump. We're Trump without the drama. No, no, no, no. They're very petty. They're very dramatic. The vague is actually the person who is saying above it all.

He's above the fray. He doesn't go after anybody. He just tells you his ideas. So the Santa's campaign is pretending to be what a Vake actually is. And when I had Vake on my show, I was so impressed. I was so refreshed. I really liked him. And I like that he's still, even though obviously he's competing with Trump, he has great reverence for all the things that Trump has done.

Even when he speaks about things that Rana Sands is getting wrong, he's very level. It's never personal. It just talks about this is what he's getting wrong in Florida and his what I would do differently. And so I am, I guess, are we calling people Ramoswami Mommy. But I'm a Ramoswami mommy. But I'm a Ramoswami mommy. But it's even the, it's not just the candidates. Because DeSantis doesn't personally attack people really, right?

No, but the people, everyone around him does. And it's interesting because I hadn't noticed it about his staffers. I really was only noticing it about like rapid response, random accounts that just spend all their day. That's interesting. Staffers, influencers. And I'm like, you guys are all hurting his campaign. You're hurting his campaign. Because you look at the Vivek team.

For starters, I don't. I don't know. I mean, I know them in the sense that I'm friends with Vivek Romancewamy. And so I kind of, if I were just like an outsider looking at the campaign, I wouldn't know any of their names. And that's probably a good thing. I think it's a good thing. Yeah, I think it's a good thing. He really does remain above it. So I very much like Vivek. And I like that people are now starting to pay attention to him and listening to his ideas. But do you think, okay, all of that to say, though. He's at whatever, you know, anywhere. I think he's going to eclipse to Santos. Do you really think that he's just, wow. I think he will eventually. Yeah, I think he will. Okay. Yeah. He's catching some fun. Listen, the Ramoswami Mommy just made the prediction. I made the prediction right here. Men who don't work out are like women who cry on TikTok after their pet bunny dies.

It's disordered, weak, and hard to look at. That's just funny. Who wrote these cards? I don't know. Some Philistine, probably. Okay, so men who don't work out are like women who cry on TikTok. I'm going to focus on that first part because it's kind of the second part is it's disordial. Blah, blah, blah.

I have to think about this. Hold on. Don't, don't do it yet. Okay. I got mine. Okay. You certainly got that right. Mm-hmm. Did I get that right? Yeah. Yeah, of course. Yeah. You know how I knew? Why? Because George. George is an exceptionally good-looking man. But he's not like in the gym. He's not some like gym bro. He's not a gym bro. But he works out every morning. Does he? He rose. So it's just me. Yeah. Rose. Of course he rose. You know you were looking for a friend in this. Yeah. He rose every morning. At 4.30. He just plays a game of cricket every single one. Yeah. And then he jumps in the pool. He just ice plunge. And then he jumps in there. So he's quite. And then he also runs. But he doesn't do the like, yeah. Yeah. No, it's a very, no, no, no, no. That's very un-British. That is. And it's also, my argument as to why these are not comparable things and why working out is overrated is, I'd like to think that I'm really, really fit. No, I'm fit by the standards of a guy from the. 50s. Okay. Like I eat a lot of fatty meats and I drink and I smoke cigars and I've never seen the inside of a gym. And in the 50s, you think of Superman or I don't know, Ricky Ricardo or just like any guy from the 50s. They were all just kind of like a bit doughy but not, they weren't

they weren't fat. I think the 50s is different. It's a bit anachronistic to do that because people were just more active in general because there was less tech. So whereas now you have to isolate your fitness because it's so easy to be lazy. Right. Then, you know, your grandparents, as you know, walked up the hill both ways to go to school. In snow. Yeah, in the summer. Exactly, in the summer. All of our grandparents did it. We know this. So I always think it's funny because I think about my grandfather because he never worked out. Yeah. But he was always working out. Like he was in the yard. He was, you know what I mean? So he was very physical. Whereas now we live a very sedentary lifestyle. So I think you do have to incorporate some sort of a fitness.

but I wouldn't say it's like women who cry on TikTok because that's just demonstrative of like complete and utter psychic collapse. Yeah, psychic collapse. Yeah, which is like that, which is not the same as a man not working out. So you can row. I feel like you would, by the way. Yale, George's Oxford. Like it's kind of right up the alley. I'll be the coxswain at the end calling out.

All right, my turn. Don't get this wrong, okay? I'll try. I'm going to be really angry. I'll try. I'm going to flip a table for no reason. It's really good. Having a Ukraine flag in your bio is more forgivable than wearing crocs. Than wearing crocs? Yeah.

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because I'm about to cry on TikTok, to be honest. Feeling real close to cry on TikTok. And... Selinsky. Okay, you got me. There we go. Yeah. He just said his name, and I just wanted to punch him in the face again.

Freight in the face. I always pull the clip. Wait, that guy who just wants to start World War III. I would, but I know I'm not allowed to, so I wouldn't do it. But if I could, I could. If you get taken down for threatening violence against. Zelensky, that would be amazing. That would be.

I would be a hero. I would be a hero. You were early. I mean, I've always tried to be kind of moderate about, you know, Mr. Zelensky and all this. But you early on, you said, I don't like it. I know Grypton when I see one, okay? Highest paid actor in the world. It's the highest paid actor in the world.

I mean, wearing the fatigues the whole time. Put on a different outfits. We know that you're not in the trenches, okay? Go to the White House. Please put on in the time. Please. Show some respect. We've sent you billions.

And by the way, I've traveled to St. Tripay, the Ukrainians now have yachts. They've got shallots in Switzerland. They've got yachts. And no, I'm not kidding. These are our tax dollars. But at least he's wearing the army fatigues. You can't be bothered to buy a tux. It's like, bro, you can buy a Tom Ford tux.

20,000 times today, okay? His wife shopping at Prada and France, I mean, I can't stand it. You're right. That was the right answer. I'm about to freak out right now. Not an easy answer, but a simple answer. Yeah, a very simple answer. There is a topic I would like to debate Ben Shapiro on.

Oh, my goodness. Absolutely. Yeah. It would be unpleasant to lose my job, but I don't know. But it might be fun. That's the thing. I guess the reason it might be a no is a topic. I've done 10,000 times. Yeah, I know, I know, I know. What would be your, what would be one topic? You know, I have to say. Actually, give us all 10,000. We've got to happily. So I would like to brag just a little bit and pay a compliment to my friend Ben, which is back in the day, years and years ago. He and I, we would get into fights all the time about. This physical. Always physical. Always kind of like this. We'd always get into fights about political philosophy. There are a certain thing. that I really admire and enjoy that he didn't like. I'm thinking of people like Michael Oakeshott.

This is a really nerdy fight. People like Michael Oakeshut, people like Russell Kirk, people like Edmund Burke, and Ben was very, didn't like him. He's a John Locke guy, you know. He's more of an Enlightenment guy, and I'm kind of an anti-enlightenment guy. I'm an anti-liberal guy. And I will say this, and this is to Ben's great credit,

over the years, he's starting to simp from my guys. Is he? He's kind of like an oak shot guy now. He's like definitely kind of a Burke guy. So it's not a debate then. It's no debate. It's just drinks and agree.

So you would like to drink and agree with Benjamin? I would debate him on vaccines. That would be, people would love that. So this is another one though. He used to be super duper pro. Yeah, 100%. Now isn't he a little questioning? I don't know.

I don't think so. Certainly on the COVID vaccines he is. Now he said he wouldn't have gotten the COVID back. Yeah, exactly. But I don't know about all the other ones. I think that would be super interesting. How do we get that set up? Yeah.

Exactly. Oh, I'm down for that. Yeah, right? Yeah. I'll bring my martini to that. Exactly. You're up. All right.

This is going to be a good one. Seed oils cause sunburns. Because you're an educated person, I assume you know the answer to that. Kind of gave away the answer here. I, you got this wrong. you're going to have a drink. And you have to drink a lot. Really? Yeah. Whoa. Hold on why. I don't know anything about seed oils. And this was almost a racist question because I don't get sunburned. So I'm like, so I don't know when you know what I do with sea oils. You're right. I don't get sunburned. So I'm like, obviously that's not true because I've definitely eaten in seed oils and I've never gotten sunburn because of black. So I'm just a little common sense here. So this is a little common. This is the best argument I've ever heard of why seed oils don't. Yeah. I've consumed a lot of seed oils in my life. I've never gotten a sunburn because I'm black. When we're talking to somebody, on this point, on this exact point, my mother, my beloved mother, was very dark-skinned.

Very, I'm having Italian-black. I've seen Italian-Black. Yeah, Sicilian. Yeah, yeah. I mean like, I remember, I saw photos of her when she was young. And I, when I was a kid, I said, oh, Mom, I didn't know you were black. And I did. And even in the summer, and she says, well, Michael, sort of cut out. I'll talk about it. But even later on, like, when I was a kid, I get very brown in the summer. And she would get black, you know. And I always thought, okay, I wouldn't sunburn. But then in the middle of my teen years, for some reason, I started sunburning. Wow. And I thought, what now? In retrospect, I realized I was consuming a lot of seed oils.

And then, sweet little Elisa, who follows all the hippie stuff that you follow, she says, Mac, you got to stop. No more seed oils. We're not going to cook with them. We're not going to eat. Whatever. So I greatly reduced. I was like, this is some hippie-dipy. I don't get sunburns anymore.

and I'm that common little bit of that olive oil. I could burn. I don't, right. Yeah, but what are the seed oils in? The reason why I don't want to go. Everything. Everything. It's probably in this martina. I'm already so crunchy that I'm fearful that if I let, if I look into, everybody keeps telling me either telling me to look into it. I'm like, guys, you don't understand. I will go crazy. Like, I will be a psycho. Yeah, I know. I will just bite onto it like a pit bull. Yes, like a pit bull on a tasty toddler. Yes. Right. Yeah. Well, you. Well, you, You're there, Candace, because you can't turn away from the truth when you see it. I know, it's going to be so bad.

I'm already like an 82-year-old full grandma right now. And if I talk with them every little, I know how I am. All right, fine. I'm going to look into it. Oh. You're going to Google it and six minutes later. I'm going to be done. You're going to be done.

I know. I can no longer avoid it. It's following me. I'm easy to work with. Ready? So this is we would, this is how I think you would answer about. yourself. And you're answering how I would answer about myself. Okay. Okay. Ready? Go. Absolutely correct. And I say you would say that you are not easy to work with. Savannah?

Savannah! Savannah! Oh, she pisses me off when I say something like that and she doesn't get over here. I would say I'm easier to work with in George. I actually do. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm easy to work with. I have to really think about this. I don't know what I would say. Just drink anyways. I'm going to choose. Yeah, because, yeah, you should just drink for me. Yeah, drink again. Because I think what I would say is, I think I'm very easy to work with. Because you know why, no one ever leaves my team. So that's got to be, you know, usually you get a high turnover. You're not usually to work with. But I would say that when it comes to my show, I'm a perfectionist. And so I mean, down to like naming the titles, all of stuff. I'm very involved. And if something's not right. then somebody like is slipping that day and I'm like, listen, I write the show, I go, like, you got to do this job and you got to do it right. And I will like, yeah. So I would, but I think that's a, that's just like everyone has to bring their egg out. But it's not easy. Like I think about it with Jeremy too. Is it Jeremy easy to work with? Jeremy is a, that's going to sound like I'm being too nice. Please don't tell Jeremy. I said this.

Jeremy is a joy to work with. It's the joy of my professional life to work with Jeremy. He's the guy's a creative genius. It's every day is something new. It's just, he's not easy to work with. I mean, same thing. He's, he's got this crazy vision and he's ruthlessly perfectionist about everything. And so it's not easy, but it's very gratifying. And I see a kind of a similar thing. I would say, and I'm super nice to everyone that I know people will say over and over again. I'm not, I'm definitely not mean. I never raised my voice. I don't believe in yelling. I think actually when you yell at people, it shows you've lost control. Yeah. You do believe in corporal punishment. But I hit them. You hit them. I do get Savannah. That's different. That's different.

Sort of. People get it. Just for recreation. Yeah. Uh-huh. Okay. My turn. You're up. You are definitely easy to work with.

I am. I'm just such a... You're like, whatever. Huh? What? Get it, turn it in on, don't turn it in. I don't turn it in. Oh, this is so great.

Most likely, Savannah will be fired before Ben Davies. Brilliant timing on this. You know, the... The sharpness of that question might change my answer. One, two, three. We can never be too sure. No, no. And I'd like to make this announcement right now.

I've enjoyed working with Ben Davies, and I appreciate his contributions to my show, but I think it's time for him to move on. Yeah, I do, too. But I was just about to say that about Savannah. So I just got to speak first. But I've enjoyed her contributions. You're going to lose them both?

We're going to lose them both. I feel free now. We can just say whatever we want now. Mr. Davies already wrote the rest of my question, so I don't need him until the next episode. Brilliant timing. You're up. If you're not married by 30, you should only really be concerned if you're a woman. One, two, three. Drink, my dear.

Oh, my gosh. Drink yourself in water. Drink yourself. Oh, my gosh. You would say no. Explain. Because people are going to start to wonder about you, first of all, if you're a man, and they're going to wonder about your loafers and the heaviness or lightness of them.

But the other thing, you should be concerned, forget about how people perceive you. Because, you know, I think it's perfectly fine to obviously engage in religious life, you know, join an order or even consecrated singlehood or something like that. But if you lack the charism for celibacy and you're single by 30 and you're a fella, you are very likely going to be fornicating or looking at porn. I mean, men, it's like we're riding around on an elephant. The libido is so insane. And even more, I know women sort of throw themselves out me as I'm walking down the street,

but it's not like women have no idea. For men, the sexual drive is just so intense that if you're a single and you don't really have an outlet for that and you're in your late 20s, 30, it's not going to be conducive to your virtue. Okay, but what was the question? You should be concerned. You should only be concerned if you're a woman. Okay, so it's how you think about what concern is.

Yeah. Okay, that's an interesting take on it. Because what I would say is that I heard that question and thought, women, biological clock ticking, you should be concerned, you haven't found a partner. You know, you've got a very short runway now to get this figured out. And also, I had this ex-boyfriend actually dated a guy, and the reason why I was going to say I disagree about 30 is because women like older men,

so they're not like running out of time. There's no biological clock that's ticking. It's like, are you going to figure your ish out? Yes or no. Who knows? But you're not like, oh, well, that's it. It's over for me. Right.

I have this ex-boyfriend who I dated who was 11 years older than me. I was 22. He was 33, right? Wow. And he said something to me that you sometimes just a sentence in your life. You just never forget it, right? And at the time we were dating, and I was like, you know, why don't you date any girl's your age? And he's like, well, because if I date a girl, that's 33, she's going to want to ring immediately.

And he said, and the truth is that if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're you're a guy and you meet a girl and she's in her early 30s and no other guy wanted her, your first thought process is, what's wrong with her? What am I missing? And I never left me. It never left me. Whoa, man. That is brutal. And I've asked a few guys that question. And they've been like, to be honest, like, yeah, if I met a 33 year old girl and everything looked right and I would be like, okay, but what am I missing? Because you're so great that like, why didn't some other guys swoop you up in your 20s? And so I think that it's a steeper climb for women for a lot of different reasons.

It has worked people. I know people that have gotten married to 36. It can happen, but those, I think, are the exceptions and not the rules. Do you wonder, though, if now, because I totally get that in principle. But now, for women, especially millennial women who are raised in this feminist culture that said, don't get married, just pursue the widget factory career forever, and just do you, you, you. And then these women come to their senses in their late 20s and early 30s. and they're otherwise great women who were basically just duped by the culture.

I mean, I wonder, I think that's a pretty large chunk these days. Yeah, feminism can colonize your brain. I say it all the time I show. I'm like, don't let it call you. You will get to 30 and then you get to 33. And it's first it's, I'm having fun, living life, I'm doing me. And then suddenly you realize all your friends are getting married, all your friends are having children. You're seeing all these announcements on Instagram and you're like, what was I thinking?

You probably also walked away from a really good guy who liked you. At least one? Yeah, at least one, maybe two. 20s, but you just thought that it was going to be forever. Your youth was going to be forever. And there is actually a biological change that happens. And I tell women this the whole time. Like, I remember being in my early 20s and I had the young carefree mentality. I was also liberal in my all my perspectives. So I was eating up the feminist garbage, which is fine. I always say, you can experiment with feminists like a drug in college. It's fine. We shouldn't keep on the drugs.

You shouldn't be proud of. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You try the drug and then you got to let it go, you know um but yeah so i had these feminist perspectives and but then something changed and it wasn't a mental it wasn't a mental change it was deeper than that it was like biological spiritual suddenly you're aware that you are a mammal and i would say it happened around 27 26 when i was like must find mate have babies like it's so weird and i'm seeing that happen to other women now that i'm friends with and they're turning 27 28 and they're like must find mate have babies so there there is something that happens. There's a sea change that happens within women in their later 20s where suddenly all of the ideology means nothing. The sociology means nothing. And the biology

overrides. And you're like, give me baby. When I met George, I said, I want kids. Like, I mean, I was the first day, you know. Your first sentence, I think was. And you said, hello, nice to meet you, George. Give me baby. Yeah, give me baby. Right now. Yeah. And he, we're married, happily married. Yeah, yes. Ladies. I was like, I'm going to put all my crazy up front. And it was. It did. For people who don't know, 18 days. 18 days to meet my husband and before we got engaged. And I got it right. You did get it right. He's so cute. Cute. Cute. I don't, okay. Cute. Angry Englishman. Yes. Yeah. He's very, he's very manly. He's very British. You know, I don't know, cute. I'm up. Candice is up. Yells Ben, baby. Can we fire him?

I thought so. I'm glad he didn't leave. Nobody listens to us around here. The law of attraction is harmless and is simply a vapid Instagram level therapy practiced among redheads, women who drink from Stan Lee's and dudes named Skyler. Vivid. Read the first part. The law of attraction is harmless and is simply. simply a vapid Instagram level therapy, practice among redheads, women who drink Stanle's, and dudes named Skyler. What's a Stanley?

Oh my God. It's like the basic white girl cup that everyone has. Sometimes these things happen on TikTok were like, and then like white girls go crazy. We'll have to do it right now. And it was a Stanley cup. And some girl was like, I drink so much water when I drink out of this cup. And then literally, yeah, every white girl in America bought the cup. Yeah.

For like, it's like $75. I have seen white girls. It's got a little handle. They're like, it's true. It works. I drink so much water. Just became a little white girl trying to say, is actually really sweet. That is sweet.

You think I'm going to say. You're going to say no. And I'm certainly going to say no. Harmless, simply. I agree. Of course. I agree. Right, you're right.

Because it's, it is all the things in the second part of the question. It's the law of attraction is just for, depressed but eccentric women to try to make sense of a world that they find chaotic and confusing. But it's a cult. It's a cult. It's New Age occultism and it will drive you crazy. And the women who go into it, go completely insane. No, I totally agree. I totally agree that the ones that cry on TikTok. Yeah, they do. With their Stanley's. They cry. With their Stanley. $75 they paid for that. That's so outrageous. Do you have them? These things happen. No. No. I wanted to see if I could get it. Mark's safe from sunburns.

Safe from Stanley Cubs. You're up. I'm up. I've met someone who I believe was possessed by a demon. Oh my goodness. I think about that. Okay. Got it. Correct? I'm not sure. I'm not sure. You know why? I just, I felt no for you because I just thought you see the good in everybody. So you Even if there was a demon, you'd be like, you know, maybe they just had a bad day. Maybe it was merely vexation. Maybe it wasn't total possession. That would be, it would just, yeah. Yeah, I don't, I, I'm not confident, even if people who've had bizarre aspects to them.

I'm not confident. I think, oddly enough, people knock me because they say that I talk about demons and angels and stuff too much. But I don't see demons under every rock. I think it's, I think demonic possession is a basically rare thing. maybe increasingly prominent in our culture, but it's not every person who has a problem is possessed by a demon. They might be tempted or be ex-quivagate.

But I think full-on possession is still pretty rare. I think Hollywood is quite demonic. Yeah. And I see people possessed by it in a weird way that I've been like, I've seen people ruin their lives on this quest for Hollywood-level fame. And I think that that's a demon.

And they can't shake it. It's really weird to watch someone destroyed. So if not like it, a demon literally acting through their body. Yeah. At the very least, a demon influencing. Right. Oh, yeah.

You think Hollywood is where you've seen it? Yeah, it's very demonic. It is a demonic place. And then there's just, there's pathways to it, like Instagram. I've seen women, like, I think it's a possession of sorts. And maybe it's not, yeah, like a full on demon. But to see the way that Instagram, think about the way that we grew up and we were like playing outside and we have like scrapes on our knees and I had braces and I was super ugly,

but I thought I was cute in my braces. Were you ugly as a little? Well, I looked like, I got pictures, and I'm like, oh, my God. I thought I was so cute, and I think everyone else thought I was cute, too, and I was getting my braces changed different colors. I thought that was hot, and I smiled big in my middle school picks, because I wanted people to see my teal braces. Did you?

Yeah. I hid my braces. I would do a smile like this. I thought I was fly in my braces. Maybe you were. All the confidence in the world. And then I see these girls today, and they're getting, like, lip injections at 14.

Oh, yeah. Because they're spending so much time on Instagram, and they're seeing, that's a something's not right there and willing to go under the knife. These are possessions of sorts, right? Like, and so whether it's demonic true to being a demon, I don't know. Yeah. It probably isn't right. But the people are possessed. And social media causes, I think, possessions. Yeah. And it leads you down those paths. I mean, especially when people dabble in drugs, especially the mind altering drugs. Yeah. And when people fall into these crazy sins of pride, That really takes you down a bad path.

But I've heard stories of first-hand accounts of people who are speaking to people and then they'll start yelling in Aramaic kind of stuff, like that degree. Yeah. But even that is increasing in prevalence. I've spoken to exorcists who, it's talking to an exorcist is sometimes, it's sort of like talking to a plumber. You think you're going to hear some amazing, wild story from an exorcist. often it's just yeah well then i had to unplug this person you know they had this stupid demon

flying around them and but the stories i hear from them are pretty wild and george tells me that yeah yeah george george chats with these people yeah and not the demons right not the demons i don't i don't think so not anymore not anymore we've put that behind us but talking to exorcists now they say the phone rings more often today than it used to Yeah, there's something going on. You can feel it in the climate and definitely within Hollywood. And it's programming people in a way that I think is, I just have questions about it. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Especially Hollywood, Gomorrah by the sea. Uh-huh. Yes, drink. Drink.

Am I up or is it you? Me. It's you. I totally lose track. I want to find the person who's writing these. Remind me to do that after. Pfizer is more trustworthy than Carly Russell. Don't even. I'm obsessed. Yeah, with the Carly Russell. I'm obsessed. I don't, I don't even, all I've seen about it is from you.

Yeah. Okay, just stop then, because you just need to understand so you can actually answer this question. Okay. This black girl goes missing and, like, they find her running car. She calls 911 and says there's a toddler on the side of the road, right? And then she hangs at the phone call, reports the toddler, and the toddler kind of looks like Tommy Pickles,

wearing a T-shirt in a diaper. She hangs up the phone, and then she calls her sister-in-law, and she's, like, talking about. girl like, I'm going to try to talk to this toddler. She gets out of the car. She gets out of her to scream. Police got there five minutes later. Carly's wig is on the side of the road. This is in Alabama. Okay? We're making on the side of the road, her purse, her, her keys, her Apple Watch, and the car is

running. And obviously, this is on the side of a, like, I-495 in Alabama. It's like a busy, kind of a busy road. And so this manhunt ensues for 49 hours. For the toddler? For the toddler? Carly, you know, and everyone. Oh, because they only found the top, the wig, the wig, the keys. They didn't find her, right? And so, of course, there's just instantly you were condemned

if you were white and you were not talking about this because the reason why you don't know the story is because you're racist. That's why. Right? If you didn't share a story, you try to get her, it's because black girls don't get any love, blah, blah, blah. Long story short, she turns out 49 hours later at her parents' house and she's in like a cataconic state and she won't talk to the police, but, you know, so there's this like a long way to figure out what happened. And they're going, why aren't you, telling us, like, where the toddler is. Like, she's just like, their family's like, leave us alone.

She needs to heal mentally. And I was instantly like, this is Jesse Smollett, too. Yeah, whoa. And it ended up being worse than Jesse Smellet. As in, like, she snatched her own wig. She told the police a story that, like, some guy with red balding hair, Prince Harry type character, took her into the woods. Might have been him, but he's not strong enough.

threw her over a fence, put her in an 18-wheeler, fed her cheese-its. I mean, you got to get it. It is like, she makes Jesse Smollett look like child's play. And you know what? You know why, Annis, the only reason you're talking about this is because you're all racist. I know. And then they did that. Then they switched.

And they said, you better talk about it. And then if you started talking about it within seven hours, they were like, how dare you have any questions? But you just told me. You just told us me all to talk about it. It is a glorious story. It's like you cannot miss it because it's better than Jesse Smollett. And it's. So the question is, is Pfizer?

more credible than this person. Yes. Yeah, man. At least she didn't poison the world. I know, she didn't poison the world. At the end of the day, I trust Harley-Busso more than I trust Pfizer. Obviously. Easy. Easy.

I've cried in the past year. The past year? Actually, we'll need to define cry. Oh. Okay. Got it. I need to define cry. I personally feel like you cried this morning. Well, it depends how you.

So you did. I cry. I did because I thought, I have the joy of drinking with Candace today. And it was tears of joy. No, I have cried, you know, deaths in the family kind of thing. But not, but is it a cry? If you, because I feel that the way I cried was very manly. Yeah. And the way I cried is a way a man ought to cry, which is, you know, at the moment of intense, you know, you're at the funeral or something and this loved one is, you know, being sent off. you kind of let a, you know, a two or two. Yeah, it's like a, yes, but it's, but you hold it. It's not like, you know, like Johnny Fontaine and the Godfather. I don't know. You know, it's just like, you kind of let the one, you kind of, you don't even kind of just wipe it away like that. So I've done that. I've done that. But I haven't started bawling.

In the last year, no bawling. No bawling. You weren't like... Only B-A-L-L-I-N-A-N-A-Postrophine. I'm bawling all the time, but I have not been bawling. Yes, I actually can think of one time in the past year that I was boo-hoo. I'm not a big crier. But I just, I don't cry a lot.

You're pretty tough. Yeah, but I boo-hooed cried in... It was just way too much stress going out of my life, I think, in October, where, I mean, it was just a month where I think Savannah and I traveled 26 days of that. 30 days. We had the Kanye controversy going on. The documentary was coming out. Savannah literally almost died in Paris like of an allergic reaction. And then

I got home, don't forget I was postpartum. And then all my hair started falling out at the same time. Because you know, you get like postpartum shedding. And I just remember like I was in the shower and like I the hair I was holding in my hands and it was like during all this something on. I just like, I can't. Women take that very hard. Anything else. I was like, please. What's so weird about that.

Stop. So that was a tough month, obviously. But every woman takes that so hard. But it's a natural thing. It's a natural thing. But they all start crying. Yeah, I think for me it was just like if it had just happened by itself. You might have made it fast.

Without like Kanye West anti-Semitism scandal, George Floyd documentary coming out. Like everything that was had in Savannah literally almost dying in Paris. And I just was like, I was like, I was like, I can take nothing else. And then I take a shower in my hair. And I was like, that's the limit. And I boo-hoo cried by myself in the shower, and that's the only time I can think of in the last year where I, like, properly boo-hoo cried. Yeah. And it would be, you know, it was nice.

It's good. It was cathartic. Yeah, it's nice. It was cathartic. And I felt better after. No, I didn't, because my hair was still in my head. It was still gone. But he was back now looking beautiful.

It grew back. It's fine. And my daughter's really cute. Louise is really cute. She was my goddaughter. My goddaughter, absolutely. She is a very cute. Both of your children are.

Yeah, yeah. She's so sweet. Georgie is a tough, tough little guy. I'm scared of him. Yes. Because he's already like... He's just such a guy. Yeah, he's already like riding motorcycles is the thing.

He's very advanced. Everyone says, oh, my child's very advanced. Your children, both of them are very advanced. He told me to build him a house yesterday. And I was like, that's not a normal sentence from a two-year-old. Like I said, don't hit your sister. He said, no, build me a house. And I'm pointed at the end.

And I was like, this is, I'm not... I don't have the tools in the shed. I didn't ask you if it was normal, mommy. Now get to building. So, two-year-olds are crazy. We all know that. terrorists. I'll drink anyway. Yeah, you drink because I cried and I lost my hair. Nobody was there for me. I'm up. I haven't remembered a single one. And I've had like four sips of this martini.

It's worse to be skinny fat than Jim Thick. Ooh. Okay, I got mine. Correct. Correct. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure. I totally think it's better. It's a cope for the Jim Thick bros who are trying to say otherwise, but no, you know. I know, no, I think it's better to be gym thick. So you're wrong, drink up. What? Yeah, because then you're, at least you know, you're in shape. What? You know, whereas if you're skinny fat, then you're not, you're not strong. I'd like to point out that both the father of your children and godfather of your daughter are, neither of us are a gym thick bro. Yeah, but gym thick could also be for girls. Actually, I don't know, but I made you drink anyways. You did. That's fine. Now I'm getting thicker by the set. That's the point. Yeah.

Going to the dentist is pointless and fake, much like recycling or taking women's studies in college. You're just going to leave your cup right there. Smile. Smile. I feel like you're a dentist, bro. You are a dentist, bro. Candace, I could not tell you the last time I went to the dentist. Oh my gosh. No, I do use, I use a very fancy toothbrush. Do you? So that it stays, it's relatively white. Even with all the cigars in the coffee and they stay relatively.

Yeah, yeah. I don't. Do you know, though? I didn't smile when I asked you to smile. So that was like, well, I didn't want to give it away. Yeah. Do you know the only time that I would go to the dentist? 2.30.

2.30. Does that mean? 2.30. Oh, my gosh. Dad jokes. Drink for that. Happily. To the 30.

Okay, I actually, you got this right. You did get this right. I did. Yeah. You're not, so let me see. I do. You have actually beautiful. Because I love the orthodontist.

The ortho. But how did they say so? Why? I have an obsession with the orthodontist. Well, I have an obsession of brushing my teeth. I actually have a mental dental disorder. Like, I think I am constantly trying to perfect my teeth. I go to the orthodontist.

They're excellent teeth. I love my orthodontist. Thank you. You still go to the orthodontist. I just wear my braces. This kind of goes back to seventh grade when I thought my braces were cool. I just, I have a thing, an affinity for the orthodontist. You want to hear a secret? I have never said this on here. I wear my retainer every night. I wear my retainer every day. And Michaelin says that I have a problem. She's like, why are you wearing a retainer?

I just wear it. And I was just like, it just makes me feel safe. By the way, if you take it out for like two nights, your teeth move around. I know. That's the whole point. Even still. I know. So I actually thinking about getting a metal bar in the back of my bottom row. Because everyone has... That's like body modification. The point is, is, of all the mental disorders to have, many to choose from today, a mental dental disorder is okay. I think my orthonautic is tired of seeing me. Yeah.

He's like, I can't fix... I can't fix... I can't. I mostly see 11-year-olds. I'm like... Candice, you're not. You do, wow. Yeah.

And you floss. Oh, I floss. Like a psycho. Wow. Yeah. I love it. I floss sort of annually. Yeah.

I think the tobacco and the alcohol. I think you're meant to be an Englishman. I have. Yeah, just get to Rowan and you'll be all right. You're up. A night of drinking and smoking with the boys is a healthy practice for married men. You would agree with them. I know you would agree with it.

I would be shocked. You know that I agree with it. Yeah, guys need their guide time. Thank you. 100%. I felt 50-50. Actually, I just wanted to be like confident. It's like the one George tells me when he comes back after you guys go to the cigar lounge.

he talks about. I'm like, I'm so glad you talked to Michael Knowles about that because I just don't talk about. I have no interest. But it would be less interested in what you and Michael Knowles talked about. She said, it's a wonderful conversation about this. It is my entire social life. My entire like go out social life is going to the cigar lounge with your husband and maybe like one other guy or two other guys. Yeah, the same is the same from my husband. And like he needs that. And the same way that women need their girl time. And because women talk, we talk about really stupid things. So I'm so compelled by political topics and whatever the dilemma is of the day. But I also need to talk about really stupid basic things with my girlfriend, which is I find fascinating. And I'm like, no, I can't show much more than this.

Why do you care about this ridiculous scandal? And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, this is everything. And it's not everything. I know it's not everything. I know it's not everything. And I'm very practical. But I'm still a woman. It's pleasurable. And you, yeah, because it's like, it's relaxing. Women like to gossip. I mean, it really goes back to hunters and gatherers. Men, I mean, it's just, it's different. Because legitimately, over the countless hours and countless cigars and drinks, with your husband specifically,

we have almost entirely talked about, like, routing the Saracens out of Jerusalem. Yeah, it's really not. It's not fun talk for me, you know? And that's just not fun. That's not relaxing to me. I feel you guys just engaging your brains for fun. Whereas, like, women, I'm impressed.

He'll be, oh, I hope, like, I saw Michael, and it's giving you an example of when you guys had your last kid. Oh, and Alyssa's pregnant again. I'm like, oh, is it a boy or girl? He's like, oh, I didn't ask. I'm like, what did they do? He's like, I didn't ask. I'm like, what kind of information? How are you not interested enough to ask these basic questions? He's like, I don't know, men are just different. I had that exact same conversation when I came back and I mentioned to Elisa that you, for the first time now, and after two children, we're off track to keep up. And I said, oh, yeah, you know, Candace is where she was, oh, wow, that's so wonderful. She said, oh, wow, that's so wonderful mag. Well, did you answer what did George say? Like, how far long is she and when and what is the sex?

It's like, I'm not supposed to know that. Unbelievable. I don't know how you guys do this? I'm like, George, what do you mean you don't want to? You didn't ask this question. It's not, I'm glad you're, you know, glad you're. Like, yeah, men and women just doesn't work. Our interests are just very different.

That's true. I'm up. You're up. I got the last one. You got the last one. Not being white. helped my career. Okay, so I would, you're answering as me.

Yeah. And I'm answering as you. But you are white. So I'm very confused by this. Not being wise. So if, if that is your premise that you're starting with, then you're going to have to answer a certain way. But okay, so not being white as help my career. Candace.

How could you be so foolish? What? But you are white. Candice. The Sicilians are racially liminal people. They're very marginal. And back, look, in my wayward youth, I made a number of mistakes. One of which was, I was briefly a professional actor and I did little parts and TV shows and

movies and things like that plays. Now, they classify you when you're an actor. Are you white? Are you black? Or are you ethnically ambiguous? Now I, having a little bit, so I'm a little lighter right now, in California, it was darker. When you were a little ethnically ambiguous, one time, I got a great, this was the job that got me eligible for SAG, the Screen Actors Guild, which is a terrible union, actually. I got to play the white part and the Hispanic part.

Wow. Because I was ethnically ambiguous. And putting my wayward youth, my indiscretions of my past aside, I think about my actual life and career. I actually believe being a little bit darker has allowed me to be a little bit edgier when I talk about certain topics. So if you were Irish looking. Far Irish, Nordic, I think I actually, if I were really waspy looking, I don't think I'd get away with being as loose. So if you looked like George. George, I would not get away with them.

I could carry Thor's hammer around. I would not be able to opine. The Mediterranean's and the darker, you know this in popular culture. The Italians get away with a lot more. Yeah. They get over with crime. Yeah. It's true.

Loodness. Uh-huh. Obscenity. No, it's true. They do. It is. It is a minority. Yes, because it's kind of a minority.

Also, you guys were treated like absolute dirt when you got here. We were, actually. We never talked about that. I'm like, if you want to talk about people that should be upset about things that happened in yesterday. The Italians were treated like dogs when they got here. Numbers wise, the Italians were not the most. Also Irish. Irish need not apply. Do you know the largest mass lynching in American history?

No, I don't. The Italians. 11 Italians in New Orleans. Wow. I didn't know that. That's a very fun fact. That is. And people, nobody knows it. Now, you know, it wasn't like numbers wise, I would say probably black people were the majority of lynching. But largest, it was the Italians. A lot of people, everybody can claim a little bit of historical oppression. Okay. So why did you pick yes for me? Well, because you have this, you know, you have this great ability, which is you come out, right? Complement me. You can, I will. You come out. And you're in this culture.

You didn't choose to be in this culture, but you're in this culture that says, if you're black, you've got to be a big lib. And we'll reward you for being a big lib, by the way. But you've got to be a big lib. And you'll be this advantaged ethnic background and white people are terrible and just go along with us. And then you come out and you say, no, actually, that's all a bunch of BS and here's why it's BS. And especially in the early part of the career, you just kind of laid it out flat.

And so you were punished for that initially by the mainstream. But I think you were ultimately rewarded because it just put you in this position where you uniquely were listened to. You uniquely were hated. You uniquely were threatened. You uniquely were. but it blew you up into the mainstream. Yeah. It's a perfect moment too, because it was,

people were just so much more vicious, I think, because they were like, it's one thing to say you're black conservative, but how could you support Trump's sort of the environment? How could you, how could you be, look, there are plenty of black conservatives, but you're, kind of vocal. You're real conservative. I'm also very vocal, which I always say, Dr. Ben Carson, who was so sweet when I met him and he was like, you know, you've been able to do so much more in terms of communicating

your ideas than I was throughout my career. obviously he's a literal brain surgery. He's obviously much more brilliant than I am. Do you remember at the debate? I said, what's your most thing you're proud of stuff? And everyone said, oh, I beat this Democrat or whatever. And he goes, I separated conjoined twins of the hand. Casual. Same. But he, and I remember saying to him is because you were way too polite, you know. And I think that's the difference is there's a certain decorum to like Dr. Ben Carson and Dr. Conradleiser Rice. And they're just sort of like, I'm not going to engage when they get called. and Uncle Tom and a Coon, and I'm just like, no, I'm here and I'm willing to engage. Like, I will

100% get into an argument with somebody. I think that that sort of startled people because typically black conservatives were just shut down, you know, and when they said something, it was like, you're a traitor, you're a race trader, and people were like, okay. You also did this thing, which it just means you took the opportunity. It doesn't, this doesn't have to do with your race, but it means you took the opportunity where a lot of times someone becomes, I'm the black conservative, they'll just stay there in that little box. And you said, I don't know, I'll talk about race sometimes, but I have many more things to say. And so you even kind of, you kind of beat them at that game where you said, no, I'm actually, I'm going to talk about vaccines. I'm going to talk about religion. I'm going to talk about this. I'm going to talk about Trump. I'm going to talk about that. I'm going to talk about foreign policy. I'm going to talk about Russia. I'm going to talk. And it just totally.

Yeah, I actually have a send an article that somebody wrote and they called my topics on my podcast, the unholy conservative gumbo. I quite like that. He was meant to be insulting. And I was like, and it's actually a really funny article. But I agree. There's no question that, but I always question in my head. I'm like, what if I did it as a liberal? Like, what if I was Candace Owens? And I was, yeah, George Floyd dies.

I'm front and center. I'm doing the media circuit at MSNBC and CNN. I'm debating Michael Knowles, right, talking about how amazing Greta Thunberg is and how the environment. You don't care about the environment because you don't have to breathe the same air. Black people have to breathe, whatever. I think I would have...

You'd be richer. You'd be richer. The deals, think about it, what they would have given to me. Look, Van Jones. Freaking Jeff Bezos, for no reason, gave them $30 million. I would be so much richer. And that's what I tell people, I'm like, if I was a liberal, I would have done it so much better than you.

So much better than you. That's true. They're like, you went to Republican side because it paid. I'm like, girl, if I wanted to make money, all they had to do was say black lives matter and be the same Candace Owens. Is it? Go after conservatives, would have had a good time.

It would have helped your career. Crushed Matt Walsh. You would have destroyed him. That would have been a great advantage. Yeah. If you had done that, your career would have benefited materially in the short term. Yeah. Your soul would have been destroyed.

Yeah. Candice, to your health, to your child, I'll drink for the two of us. The pleasure as always. We'll see you next time. And I'll see you.