The Mindset Mentor - How to Make Doing Hard Things Easier
Episode Date: October 30, 2025What if your breakthrough is hiding behind the hard thing you keep avoiding? In this episode, I reveal the neuroscience of avoidance, motivation, and how to rewire your brain to crave challenge, grow ...through struggle, and take action no matter what. Feeling stuck? It's time to take back control. If you're ready to master your mind and create real, lasting change, click the link below and start transforming your life today. 👉 http://coachwithrob.com The Mindset Mentor™ podcast is designed for anyone desiring motivation, direction, and focus in life. Past guests of The Mindset Mentor include Tony Robbins, Matthew McConaughey, Jay Shetty, Andrew Huberman, Lewis Howes, Gregg Braden, Rich Roll, and Dr. Steven Gundry. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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                                        Today, I'm going to talk to you about how to make doing hard things easier in your life.
                                         
    
                                        Because the number one breakthrough that you need in your life
                                         
                                        is sitting behind one hard thing that you keep avoiding.
                                         
                                        And deep down, I'm sure you know exactly what it is.
                                         
                                        But instead of doing it, your brain defaults to fear
                                         
                                        and you burn energy, rehearsing failure, and worrying about the future instead of actually
                                         
                                        moving forward. And the longer that you put it off, the louder that your stress and your anxiety
                                         
                                        will get. And so this episode is a pattern interrupt for you. I'm going to be breaking down the
                                         
                                        neuroscience behind avoidance, motivation, and the exact moment where your brain learns to
                                         
    
                                        stop running and fall in love with taking action. So if you've been
                                         
                                        feeling stuck or unmotivated or low-key anxious all the time, then this is the reset that you're
                                         
                                        going to need. Okay? When you are about to do something hard, something that puts you out of your
                                         
                                        comfort zone, your body will sound the alarm. It'll say fear, it'll say stress, it'll say anxiety,
                                         
                                        and it will flood your body with the chemicals that are associated with those. But neurologically,
                                         
                                        that's actually the start of progress for you, but most of us usually back down at that point.
                                         
                                        Here's the reason why it's the start of progress for us. When you voluntarily face effort and
                                         
                                        stress and something that's going to push you, your dopamine system activates inside of your brain.
                                         
    
                                        And your dopamine system, dopamine inside of your brain is the chemical of motivation.
                                         
                                        Whenever you are trying to achieve something, your brain releases dopamine, when you're anticipating
                                         
                                        achieving that, your brain releases dopamine. When you achieve that thing, your brain releases dopamine.
                                         
                                        All of those are designed to keep you motivated. And the key here is that it doesn't just happen.
                                         
                                        You don't just get dopamine when you finish the thing. Dopamine rises in your brain in your body
                                         
                                        in the pursuit of trying to achieve something. That's the key.
                                         
                                        So the translation is that you don't have to succeed or hit a home run with everything that you do
                                         
                                        in order to feel motivated. In order to do the hard things, you just need to start. And when you do
                                         
    
                                        this, you will start to rewire your brain to associate challenge with reward. And if you do it enough,
                                         
                                        your brain will begin to rewire itself. Effort triggers neuroplasticity. And neuroplasticity is your
                                         
                                        brain's ability to change itself. But the catch is if there is no strain, there's no change.
                                         
                                        The key to neuroplasticity is that the bigger, the strain, the harder it is for you, the more it will
                                         
                                        change your brain. So if you're having trouble doing the hard thing, taking the action,
                                         
                                        doing what you need to do to change your life, it's because you have accidentally wired your brain
                                         
                                        into connecting challenge with danger or fear or threat when in reality we are wired for challenge
                                         
                                        equals reward. So unless you make a drastic change in your life, there is no shortcut. There is no
                                         
    
                                        book that you can read. You have to make a drastic change in your life. And if you don't,
                                         
                                        you will always default to your brain connecting challenge with danger or threat or fear.
                                         
                                        and if you continue that way, nothing in your life will change and everything will get harder
                                         
                                        and harder to do. Like, think about it for a second. And I want you to really, really think about this.
                                         
                                        Is going to the gym really that hard? Like an hour of discomfort, oh, you poor baby, an hour of
                                         
                                        discomfort, that's the hardest thing right now. Sending that email that you've been putting off for so
                                         
                                        long, oh, you poor baby. You're moving your fingers on a keyboard. Oh, my goodness, that's so hard,
                                         
                                        right? You're sitting in an air-conditioned room moving your fingers, right? You're literally just
                                         
    
                                        moving your fingers and you're staring at a screen. That's what you're doing when you're doing
                                         
                                        an email. Like making cold calls. If that's what you need, you need to make cold calls to
                                         
                                        prospects in order to grow your business. You're just pushing a piece of plastic with your fingers
                                         
                                        and then putting that piece of plastic to your ear. So like, quote-unquote, difficult what I'm
                                         
                                        talking about here. When you put it into the perspective of being a human and from what other people
                                         
                                        in this world are going through, let's be honest. Like, it's really not that difficult. It's that we
                                         
                                        have made it more difficult in our brains by our old default programming. And that programming
                                         
                                        just says, oh, when I'm challenged, I lay down. Mike, we're just flaccid humans, like just getting run over by
                                         
    
                                        small challenges. Get your ass up and do something that's harder, right? When we seek challenges,
                                         
                                        when we seek discomfort, your brain starts to change itself. And studies have shown that this
                                         
                                        change in your brain can happen in as little as 21 days of consecutive action. So your nervous
                                         
                                        system uses discomfort that you're as a sign that instead of it being a threat, it uses it
                                         
                                        as a sign that you're adapting, that you're changing. And over time, your brain starts to anticipate
                                         
                                        and become addicted to the chemicals released when you do something hard. Dopamine, serotonin,
                                         
                                        endorphins, all of those are feel-good chemicals that are released when you do something hard
                                         
                                        or when you achieve something. And whenever you get those feel-good chemicals, guess what you want more
                                         
    
                                        of those. And so yes, you can literally get yourself to a place where if you push yourself for
                                         
                                        long enough that you will eventually want to do what is hard. And there's a part of your brain,
                                         
                                        you may have heard me talk about this a few episodes ago, called the interior singular cortex,
                                         
                                        which is where neurologists are actually starting to think, is the center of your willpower.
                                         
                                        And so for people who don't push themselves, who don't push themselves out of the comfort zone,
                                         
                                        that don't go to the gym often who don't do hard things,
                                         
                                        their interior cingulate cortex is very small,
                                         
                                        not because that's just what they were born with
                                         
    
                                        and that's the way it's going to stay forever.
                                         
                                        It's because when you start to push yourself and do something hard,
                                         
                                        the interior cinglet cortex grows.
                                         
                                        They found people that are professional athletes,
                                         
                                        their interior cingulate cortex is much larger than somebody who doesn't challenge themselves.
                                         
                                        Not because they were born that way,
                                         
                                        but because professional athletes have to push them,
                                         
                                        and do things that they don't want to do every single day for 20 or 30 years. And so they have found
                                         
    
                                        that when people start to push themselves more, people's interior singlet cortex will grow. So next time
                                         
                                        that you think something is hard and you're like, I don't know if I can do it. I don't know if I'm
                                         
                                        going to be able to do it. Maybe I should lay down. Maybe I should scroll. Maybe I should do something
                                         
                                        different. Try this reframe. When you're feeling the feeling of something is hard or difficult,
                                         
                                        say to yourself, this is my nervous system updating. It's updating and I am growing. You know, dopamine
                                         
                                        doesn't come from comfort. It comes from the pursuit of conquest, the pursuit of going and creating
                                         
                                        something with your life. So doing the hard things will always make your life easier, though.
                                         
                                        That's the weird kind of paradox of it, is doing hard things makes your life easier.
                                         
    
                                        avoiding hard things only makes your life harder. So the truth is that your brain actually wants to be
                                         
                                        challenged. Like your brain wasn't designed for comfort. It was built for adaptation. When we evolved in
                                         
                                        environments where survival required effort like hunting and building and escaping and enduring
                                         
                                        and going through challenges every single day, we developed, our brain developed, a reward system
                                         
                                        that fires dopamine during the pursuit of doing something hard, not just the prize.
                                         
                                        And we will be right back.
                                         
                                        And now, back to the show.
                                         
                                        And the reason why is because it kept us pushing ourselves.
                                         
    
                                        It kept our species adapting.
                                         
                                        And it's now built into us to actually want to do something that's challenging.
                                         
                                        That means that your neurochemistry is hardwired to reward challenge.
                                         
                                        you get the boost when you're in the middle of doing something and when you're in the pursuit of
                                         
                                        something not when it's done but when you're actually in motion but here's the modern problem though
                                         
                                        modern life has made us soft today most of us are just completely soft like our ancestors would have
                                         
                                        laughed at how soft we are oh you've got to move your thumbs oh my god that's so hard for you to
                                         
                                        do to send that difficult text message or to, you know, to send that email and you got to move
                                         
    
                                        your fingers inside of air conditioning with a full belly and with, you know, water and clothes and
                                         
                                        everything. Oh, so hard, right? Like our ancestors literally had to fight for their lives every single
                                         
                                        day. And so modern life has made us soft. Today's life is basically we live in a dopamine buffet.
                                         
                                        We can scroll on our phones instead of doing what's hard. We can watch TV instead of pushing ourselves
                                         
                                        comfort is always one click away. Like if I'm sitting on my couch, scrolling on my phone,
                                         
                                        watching Netflix at the same time, and I'm like, you know what? I'm kind of hungry. I can just
                                         
                                        go on a door dash. I can order it and it's going to be at my house in 20 minutes. There's no challenge.
                                         
                                        It's like dopamine, scrolling in my phone, dopamine, watching Netflix, dopamine, eating food.
                                         
    
                                        It's just a buffet of dopamine. And the result is that our nervous systems have been hijacked by
                                         
                                        cheap dopamine, like the TV, like scrolling on our phones. And we have unconsciously trained
                                         
                                        ourselves to avoid effort and to fear discomfort. We have become soft. And so when a real challenge
                                         
                                        shows up, a challenge that if we face it and we work through it, we'll make our life better,
                                         
                                        like a workout or having a difficult conversation that we need to have or a decision that's a
                                         
                                        big life decision in your business. Your brain misreads it as some sort of threat and something
                                         
                                        to fear instead of looking at it and seeing the actual opportunity that's in front of us.
                                         
                                        And so what happens is we feel resistance. Oh my God, I feel this resistance inside of my body.
                                         
    
                                        So what do we do? We hesitate. We procrastinate. But underneath all that hesitation, that
                                         
                                        procrastination, the wiring is still there. Even if you're the softest human alive and you haven't
                                         
                                        ever push yourself in your entire life and you're listening to this podcast episode, your original
                                         
                                        wiring is still there. The wiring that craves to be pushed, to stress, to do something that
                                         
                                        is hard because it feels good to do something that is hard. And so you have to understand if that's
                                         
                                        the case, well, then even if I'm the softest human alive, I can make myself be somebody that's
                                         
                                        harder because that wiring is inside of me. But I can't do it from, you know, I love that you
                                         
                                        listeners podcast, but this isn't doing something hard. You know, it's not going to come from
                                         
    
                                        reading a book. It's not going to come from going to a conference. It's going to come from you doing
                                         
                                        something that is hard. That is it. There is no magic pill that I can give you to grow your
                                         
                                        interior singular cortex and now you do hard things. Like the magic of it is every time you do
                                         
                                        something that is hard, your brain updates. And it learns. Oh, wait, I just did something that seemed
                                         
                                        hard. I did something that I was afraid of. I survived. I adapted. I'm stronger.
                                         
                                        now. And so what happens is you get sharper. You become more confident. You become more resilient.
                                         
                                        And slowly, what was at some point in time something that felt unbearable to you, something that was
                                         
                                        so hard to do, becomes automatic. So many people when they're on the weight loss journey and
                                         
    
                                        they're 100 pounds overweight and they just go at it and go at and go at, like the first few months,
                                         
                                        at least the first few weeks are just so hard. And you watch these videos of transformation.
                                         
                                        And you see them two years down the road and it's like,
                                         
                                        They work out every single day or five days a week no matter what.
                                         
                                        It is part of who they are now.
                                         
                                        And so it went from this thing that was so hard for them to do and so unbearable to basically
                                         
                                        automatic.
                                         
                                        It's become part of who they are.
                                         
    
                                        Because you have to understand that the weight of life doesn't change.
                                         
                                        I don't know if you've been seeing what's going on in the world.
                                         
                                        It's a shit show.
                                         
                                        It's always been a shit show.
                                         
                                        And I'm going to assume it's going to continue being a shit show.
                                         
                                        The weight of life does not change.
                                         
                                        it does not get easier.
                                         
                                        You are the one that changes.
                                         
    
                                        You become stronger, and that is how life becomes easier.
                                         
                                        The paradox is that if you do something that is hard over and over again,
                                         
                                        the more that you do hard things, the easier your life will get.
                                         
                                        The more that you avoid hard things, the harder your life will get.
                                         
                                        And so, yes, doing the hard things, it sucks in the moment.
                                         
                                        I get it.
                                         
                                        But on the other side of that, it is a better you.
                                         
                                        It's a calmer you.
                                         
    
                                        It's a stronger you.
                                         
                                        it's a more confident you it's a more resilient you your brain was built for discomfort it is how our
                                         
                                        species learn to survive but modern comfort has made you forget it so you are way back you got to do
                                         
                                        the hard thing there's no way around it i'm sorry buddy and you got to do it often and you've got to do it
                                         
                                        on purpose because when you do the hard thing life always gets easier and so here's the real kicker
                                         
                                        all of all of this. So every time you do the hard thing, especially when you don't want to,
                                         
                                        especially when you don't feel ready, your brain basically records a message of like, hey,
                                         
                                        I'm the kind of person who takes action no matter what. That right there is an identity.
                                         
    
                                        And the identities is where everything changes. You don't build confidence by thinking that you're
                                         
                                        confident. You don't build confidence by reading a book on confidence. You build it by doing
                                         
                                        what you don't want to do, by doing what scares you, and noticing that you survived.
                                         
                                        and then actually taking time and reinforcing by how you speak to yourself how well you did with
                                         
                                        your own self-talk. Oh my God, I can't believe you showed up for the gym. You didn't want to. You were
                                         
                                        tired. You were exhausted. I'm so proud of you. You're the type of person who follows through.
                                         
                                        And you reinforce this identity by your unconscious mind seeing what you do and by you talking to
                                         
                                        yourself in the right way. So if you're stuck in self-doubt, start with doing something hard
                                         
    
                                        and then do it again tomorrow. Because self-doubt is a slippery slope. If you're
                                         
                                        you don't do something about it and force yourself to take some form of action, you will lose
                                         
                                        more belief in yourself. So you have to pay attention to what it is that you do and how it is
                                         
                                        that you speak to yourself. Like, I noticed something today at the gym. So I have a new trainer who's
                                         
                                        a ex-Navy seal for 15 years and he's hardcore. And he made me start off on the assault bike.
                                         
                                        And the assault bike sucks. And I had to do two and a half minutes as hard as I possibly could
                                         
                                        and hit a certain time and hit a certain mile and all this stuff in a certain amount of time.
                                         
                                        Today was just not the day because we worked legs really hard two days ago.
                                         
    
                                        And I was thinking to myself, as I was going, I was like, fuck, this is so hard.
                                         
                                        Oh my God, I don't think I can do this.
                                         
                                        I don't think I can do this.
                                         
                                        I don't think I can hit the time.
                                         
                                        And I noticed my own self-talk, which I still get stuck in everybody.
                                         
                                        I noticed my own self-talk.
                                         
                                        And I noticed how I was slowing down when I was saying, I don't think I can do this.
                                         
                                        This is hard.
                                         
    
                                        And then I was like, fuck that.
                                         
                                        I'm not going to speak to myself that way.
                                         
                                        I'm going to say, you got this.
                                         
                                        You got this.
                                         
                                        You can do this.
                                         
                                        I know you can do this.
                                         
                                        I know you can do this.
                                         
                                        You're going to get it done.
                                         
    
                                        I know you can do this. You got this. I believe in you. And I had to hit a mile in two and a half
                                         
                                        minutes on the assault bike and I literally hit it in two minutes and 28 seconds. And I was like,
                                         
                                        oh my God, I was behind time and somehow I caught up. And it was because I was doing something that
                                         
                                        was hard, but I was also rewiring myself by not only doing the thing, but also the way that I
                                         
                                        was talking to myself, which is really key in all of this as well. And so my assignment for you
                                         
                                        today is to pick one thing that has felt too hard for you to do for way too long. And what I
                                         
                                        want you to do is I want you to figure it out. I want you to write it down. I've been avoiding
                                         
                                        blank and fill in that blank. Then I want you to shrink it down. What is a five-minute version of
                                         
    
                                        that thing? Whatever it might be. I've been avoiding going to the gym. Okay, go on to YouTube,
                                         
                                        find a five-minute YouTube video of a workout, and you're straight up just do five minutes of it.
                                         
                                        So you name it, you shrink it, you start anyways, and you do it immediately before your brain has
                                         
                                        any time to negotiate or think of other options. And then once you get done, once you get done
                                         
                                        with those five minutes, whatever it is, you build yourself up by how you talk to yourself
                                         
                                        and you actually start to reinforce the feel-good chemicals in your brain. Now you have endorphins,
                                         
                                        now you have serotonin, now you have dopamine, and you're also talking to yourself. Oh my gosh,
                                         
                                        I'm so proud of you. You did in five minutes. You didn't want to. I'm proud of you. You release more
                                         
    
                                        dopamine. You start to actually become more addicted to needing to do the hard things. And so the key here
                                         
                                        is if you want a better life, if you want your life to be easier, you need to start wiring yourself
                                         
                                        to do things that are hard. And if you do that, your life will become better. So that's what I got
                                         
                                        for you for today's episode. If you love this episode, please share it on your Instagram stories,
                                         
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                                        the same way leave you every single episode make it your mission to make somebody else's day better
                                         
    
                                        i appreciate you and i hope that you have an amazing day
                                         
