The Mindset Mentor - My Beliefs & Life Story Up To 2020

Episode Date: January 3, 2020

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Welcome to today's episode of the Mindset Mentor Podcast. If you have not yet done so, hit that subscribe button so that you never miss another episode of this podcast. Now let's go ahead and dive right in. I wanted to share a... I had a really good interview with a friend of mine, Andrew Evans, who runs the Ace Weekly podcast. And he came over to the place that I'm at in Miami and interviewed me. And it was my first interview that I've done of the year. We went into some stuff that I've probably never gone through before, never spoken about on this podcast. Some of it I have. And I thought, you know what, this is some really good, valuable stuff. And he gave me the permission, hey, you could put on your podcast and let people

listen to it. So I thought, you know what, If you guys want to know more about me, the journey that I've been in, we talk about a lot of different things from my childhood to traumas to early childhood development to psychedelics to how to accept people and love people more and how to just be a better person, I think in general, and the simplest ways to change your life. And we dove into a lot of different things in this podcast episode, and I needed to share with you guys. One thing that I will say is that I didn't have a pop filter on mine.

So every once in a while, you hear a P or a B that's a little bit too loud, it's okay. You know, there's perfection in the imperfection. So I wanted to share this episode with you guys. Wanted to say that I think that it will help you start your 2020 off right. And I think you'll get a lot of value from it. And I can't wait for you to listen to it. But without further ado, this is my interview being interviewed by Andrew Evans.

I'm excited to introduce our guests here for the day. I am here sitting down with Rob Dial, who is the host of another top 100 iTunes podcast, The Mindset Mentor. Over the past several years, he has organically grown his social media following to over 2 million people. He's garnered over 1 billion. So that's with a B, 1 billion organic viral video views. So that's with a B, 1 billion organic viral video views. Currently, he runs a seven-figure self-development coaching company. It combines neurology, psychology, things like early childhood development, as well as cognitive behavioral therapy to give people the tools that they need to really remove themselves from the suffering that so often has been created,

uh, by previous traumas and their very own thoughts. So I've, uh, known of Rob for many, many years, uh, now, and, uh, from some, a lot of our different mutual friends that we've had. So I can just honestly say, man, it's a great pleasure and joy to be kicking off the show here with you today. So it's been a long time coming. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Well, ladies and gents, without further ado, Rob Dow. Welcome to the show. Thanks, bud. Appreciate it. Awesome. Well, I appreciate you being here. And, you know, so I wanted to kind of take a quick second too

because I was looking at a lot of the stuff and the content that you've been putting out. And I know that obviously success leads clues. And I want to get to a point like, just take maybe the audience back and some of our listeners back to, you know, now you're someone that literally there's over a billion people that are listening and getting your influence and your leadership and your mentoring and coaching,

you know, countless other people. But how do you get to that place? Like, where did you start? Take me back to the young Rob. Like, what was life like for you growing up? So, well, first off I'll tell this, uh, thank you for, for having me on the show. It's been a lot. I've heard of you for a long time because, uh, one of the guys who mentored you is actually someone who I trained a long time

ago, actually 2000 and, uh, 2007, uh, was when, was when he kind of came under my wing. So it's been almost 13 years, which is crazy to think about. Um, but yeah, and, and I'll tell you this too. And I always tell everybody who interviews me like no questions off the table. I usually tell people before we start. So anything that you want to ask me, I'm complete open book, no matter how shitty of a situation it seems like it might've been. Most people I've, I've been a lot of podcasts. I've interviewed a lot of people and a lot of people have their set things they talk about and then they don't talk about a lot. So like before we dive in, like ask me whatever the hell you want. Like I'm a complete open book because all I want to do is add value to everybody. And if I can't tell you about the

shit that I've been through, then people can't really relate to me. So my childhood was okay. I don't feel like it was terrible. I grew up in Florida, a place called Anna Maria Island was most of it. And now it's a really rich area, but back then it was really poor. And so I grew up in Florida, a place called Anna Maria Island was most of it. And now it's a really rich area, but back then it was really poor. And so I grew up on Anna Maria Island. About nine years old, I noticed things were different in my household than everybody else's household. My dad was an alcoholic. And so I always tell people that I think I was lucky by getting him as an alcoholic because

he wasn't the alcoholic who would yell at you or scream or touch me or, you know, do anything like that or, you know, anything. There's no, there's no physical violence. There's no sexual touch. There's no yelling. There's none of that stuff. He would just get drunk and he would fall asleep. Um, but because of that, he would also forget about me a lot. So I felt like I was left out a lot of times. Like he would leave me at baseball games and I would just never get picked up. And so from a very young age, I kind of realized like I'm on my own in this world. And that was the feeling that I had. And I'm actually going through the process of reprogramming myself to realize that that's not the truth. That's what the past few years have been about for me. And so he passed away when I

was 15 from being an alcoholic and basically realized I never was the child who blamed myself for my father's issues or when my parents got divorced or anything like that. I just feel like there was at least a little bit of wisdom in me when I was a kid for some reason. And I knew it was his fault and I knew that it was his demons. And so my dad's demons were that he never overcame walking into the room after he walked, literally 12 years oldcame walking into the room after he walked, literally 12 years old, walking into the room right after his dad shot himself in the mouth with a shotgun. So my dad never came to terms with that. And in turn, he held onto that trauma. And, you know, we all have some sort of trauma that we're holding onto. Most people do. And I don't mean trauma like

someone has to die. Like all trauma is the same once it's stored in the body. You know, it could be trauma of being bullied. You could have had incredible parents, but you know, it could have been bullied. And so, uh, for me, I realized that he had demons and my goal was to never, never have my demons come out. Um, his was his demons manifested into drinking alcohol. Some people's demons is what traumas, you know, manifest in that they eat too much food. They don't work out. They do binge eating. Mine was that I became a workaholic and I worked 110 hours a week. And so everybody's kind of changes. And so for me, when I was 15, that whole thing happened. Now, when I was 19, I found Cutco, which obviously anybody who listens to you knows Cutco.

So you're in Cutco now. I was in Cutco and it was like, it was kind of like my saving grace. I wanted to be in sales from a very young age. I wasn't outgoing and I'm still at this point, I'm more of an introvert than an extrovert. And, but it was like my saving grace of like, oh my God, I can finally make money because we're really poor when I was younger. And so it was the thing, like I can finally make money. So that was your first reel. That was my first reel, like I can do something with myself. And I became obsessed.

They're really big into Persevelment, so I read every Persevelment book. I hired a mentor. I paid $500 a month when I was 19 years old to have two guys mentor me, which ended up being pretty good guys. It was John Berghoff and Hal Elrod, which are massive now. I was their very first coaching client. I didn't know that one either. It was before Hal wrote a book that sold 2 million copies called The Miracle Morning. And so I was mentored by those guys, but I just had this feeling like this is how I'm going to change my life. And through Cutco,

I started getting into personal development. And then I became a manager. I started teaching it to people. And I started seeing that the stuff that was changing my life and I was teaching it to other people was then starting to change their life as well. And so when it really clicked for me was I was running the Fort Lauderdale office and I had a guy named Shaquem that worked for me. And in Cutco at the time, it was like, you have people that are what you would call your avatar. Like your avatar is your perfect client. Like our perfect person we want to train. Uh, Shaquem was the exact opposite. Like normally they say like, you want, you know, uh, not, and it's not always this case, but a good kid that would come in would be from a good part of town. They've got a good network. They probably

play a sport. So they're competitive. Shaquem was the exact opposite of that. Um, he was from the worst part of Fort Lauderdale, the part of Fort Lauderdale, I don't even remember the name of it, but the cops don't even go into it. Um, he. He was just like, you know, not from a good place. And he was, but he showed up every single day. And so I used to do these things called 7am meetings. And these are for high school and college kids. I would be at my office every single morning at 7am and train whoever was there. And every single day for a year and a half. And he showed up every single day. And he became my number one sales rep and my assistant manager. And he came up to me one day. And when I really realized it clicked, and this is what I wanted to do, is his father had passed away the year before. And his dad was in a wheelchair. And his dad

was choking and ended up choking. And Shaquem walked in and his dad was on the floor. Um, and that's how he died. And he came up to me, uh, about a year after his dad passed away. And he was probably with my office for about six months. And he said, Hey man, like I gotta, we were in the, shut the door to my office. He's like, I just want to tell you something. Like, I don't come from a good part of town. I don't have good people that are around me. I don't have good mentors. Nobody shows me any of the right stuff. And he goes, the reason why I show up every single day is because you're the only person that believes in me and cares about me since my father passed away. And you're the only person that reminds me of my dad. And I was 21 at the time. And I was like, holy shit,

I'm actually changing people's lives. And it's addicting, man. It's more changing people's lives is more addicting than money. It's more addicting than anything else that's out there because you know that you're doing good. And then so once I left Cutco in 2010, it just became the mission. And so I started the podcast in 2015. I did some sales trainings and all that stuff for about 4 or 5 years. Started the podcast in 2015. Did pretty well. And now it's into one of the top 100 in the podcast land. There's 700,000 podcasts. It's in one of the top 100 in, in, in, in, you know, the podcast land, there's 700,000 podcasts. It's in one of the top 100. And, um, yeah. And then I just started Facebook videos cause I realized that I wanted to impact people more and there's more people on Facebook than there are,

you know, anything else pretty much. And so went from podcasting to Facebook to Instagram and it's just kind of, kind of snowballed into a beast from there. Tell me a little bit. And so there's a lot of stuff to even dissect just from that story. I think about, you know, going back to even just you and your dad and his dad. This is something that like, it's funny that's come up for me too, just because it's been something I've been thinking about a lot over the past six months. And my, you talk about everyone having demons, right? And, um, I wonder, do you, do you ever feel like oftentimes those demons are passed down from generation to

generation, uh, the generation, like the same way in your DNA, are you talking about through, through nature and nurture? Um, I mean, either, it depends what, what the question is, but I'm asking, uh, yeah, I guess I think nature and nurture too. I mean, the same way that you said your dad saw his dad, you know, he had to like, couldn't deal with that pain. And, you know, in that case resorted to him for, it was alcoholism, right. Right. For, for you seeing maybe your dad, like you said, like that pain turned to workaholic, right. And just work, work, work, and you probably needing to feel like you need to work or achieve in order to like feel worthy. Yeah. Right. Which I know I can heavily relate to. Um, that was really, really similar for myself too. Um, I feel how do people, especially too, when I, and that's the thing that I'm saying is

I think oftentimes these things translate from one generation to the next generation. And oftentimes you see your parents and their whole goal that growing up is like, I just don't want to be like that. I just want to avoid being like that. And oftentimes we find ourselves 30, 40 years later and it's like, wow, I'm exactly like that in a different way. And it just came out and resorted itself in a different way. How do people like identify that and have that self-awareness within them to see that stuff? Uh, so there's a really good quote that says all of man's issues come from his inability to sit in a room quietly by himself. And, uh, and the thing that, uh, we were actually walking to the heat game last night and there was a lady that walked by us. It was

really drunken. I wasn't placing any judgment on her, but she was super drunk all by herself. And, uh, and I said to Lauren that I had seen a quote, my girlfriend, Lauren, and, uh, a quote earlier in the day. And it said, there's, there's no one that's addicted to drugs or alcohol. They're just addicted to escaping their own reality. And I feel like workaholism for me was escaping my reality of the trauma that I didn't deal with my dad. Eating food will escape, help people emotionally feel like they're escaping the trauma from their parents. Alcoholism will do the same. Drugs will do the same. There's a really good guy. His name is Gabor Mate. And he's a psychologist that deals with addiction. And he is based in... It's either Toronto or Montreal. I think it might

be Montreal. And for 12 years, he worked on the streets dealing with drug addicts because there's a big homeless area where he was. And he said something that is starting to surprise people. But for me, it never actually surprised me. I always thought it was. And I thought it was known is that no addiction in any sort of way manifests without some sort of trauma that's not being overcome. And I was very aware of that from my dads. And I was very aware that I had it in myself. And I started to realize after a while my workaholism from it. And so the first thing is for people to just shut the fuck up and sit in a room quietly by themselves. Like if I'm being honest, and that's so hard to do, people have to be entertained all day long. Now, like they have to be on their phone. They have to, you know, do everything.

It's getting worse too, because like you said, yeah, it's technology has, it was, it was already, there was already, it was already a challenge 10 years ago, 15 years ago, 20 years ago. Now, you know, it's like, it's our senses are 24-7 on like nonstop stimulus. You know, it's like we have to be putting something in. And I can relate to this a lot. Like this was for me last year, you know, a couple months before I even ever started the podcast. I remember, you know, we had just come off a crazy summer. Um, you know, all my relationships like with people were good. Um, and I was, I was feeling like I was happy doing what I was doing, but like, I just remember

coming home and being like, like feeling empty. Like I would, I would know I was getting off. I was, I would know I was getting home from work early and I would instantly start pulling my phone on my way home and start texting people like, what you doing hey how you like I wanted to have someone come over because I didn't want to be like alone like I was nervous to be alone it was it was hard for me to literally sit down and just be alone by myself in a room and have to deal with those emotions and the second I allowed myself to do that everything came flooding out yeah and I realized how much stuff had just been sitting inside there that I never released for so long. And I wonder how many other people are in the same situation for years. Most, most, and most never even come to realize it. So

what I always tell people is, you know, so if you think about that, of, of just sitting in a room quietly by yourself, we're so overstimulated that we feel like we have to continue to be stimulated. And so it's going to take time. It's going to take weeks before you start to come down off of it. One thing that I did years ago was I turned the data off on my phone. If you turn the data off on your phone, for literally it was 30 days, I turned the data off, which means I could only text or have phone calls on my phone. I use my phone as an actual phone, right? And I couldn't do anything. What I noticed was that when I came out to a stoplight, I'd pick up my phone to look at.

I was like, wait. And I noticed habits of I'm sitting here and I'm waiting. Like I was waiting for you downstairs. And I consciously kept my phone in my pocket because I wanted to get it out. And you still feel that pull of it. And so I don't know if it's just the addiction of it. I don't know if it's people trying to run from things, but I think that most people can't sit quietly. And so the first step is

sitting quietly in a room by yourself. The second step is to then take a pen and paper or journal and start writing down. Not your phone because somehow you're going to go on Instagram. Sit up with a pen and paper. And as you start noticing things come up, ask yourself questions. So people really, really need help with journaling. They always say, how do I journal? Yeah. What kind of questions would you ask yourself? So like, why am I... When you start feeling... The first question that I always ask that makes it super easy is go very vague. What do I want? Because what I want today and my answers this morning will be different from tomorrow and be different from the next day. So you can go very

wide and say, what do I want? But then you can say, what do I want in my friendships? What do I want in my relationships? What do I want in my business, in my career, in my family, in my health? And you start asking yourself questions and then finding the answers to them and journaling through them and taking time. And why do I... The very first time I realized this, if you want to know the truth, I was sitting in a hammock in a park in Austin and I just like flood, like I just like this flood of emotions of like, why do I always feel like I have to keep running? That was literally the question. And I wrote down like 15 questions in a row and I put them all down on a piece of paper because I feel like I've never been able to like settle in and just be okay with where I am. I always want to have something on the horizon,

something else that's coming up. And so I asked myself like 15 questions. They all just like flooded out of me. And I just answered them. And I journaled like 15 pages of stuff. And I was like, oh my God, this is... And you start to become very self-aware of what's going on inside of your head. So it's simple. Journaling is very simple.

You sit down, you ask yourself whatever questions you feel are bothering you, whatever's going on in your life. You can start with that super vague of, what do I want? You can, what I want in business, relationships, family, success, bank account, all of that. And then from there, you just make yourself answer it. And what I always find is that people say, before I started journaling, I thought I knew myself. And then I realized that I didn't know myself at all. Because you start to become very self-aware of the patterns, habits, traits, all of the things that create who you are that you've basically been unaware of for a long time.

I think, to your point, Rob, a lot of people, like what would you say to someone, there's people that are listening to this podcast right now that have heard the value of journaling, how to do it, the process for years and years, and they still haven't done that. Or maybe they think, Hey, well, that's good and all, but I'm not a good writer. And honestly, I'm just better at kind of tinkering around in my own thoughts and figuring things out for myself. Like, what would you say to that? You're not, you're not. Cause here's the thing. What I always tell people is this, when you're, when you're inside of your head, it's very abstract. One thing that, that helps a lot of people as well as I've noticed a lot of people don't understand their emotions very well. And the reason why they don't understand their

emotions is because they keep them inside of their head. And I'll give you a perfect example. Let's say that you and I are going to create a business plan for a brand new business, right? If we just talk about it and we don't write anything down, we could come up with a little bit of a plan. But what's the chance of us remembering it and actually storing it in our brains and then getting extremely clear on what it is that our business is going to do versus us going, we're going to create a business. We're going to sit down here for the next hour and we're going to write down every thought that we have and try to put it on paper. You're going to get much more clear by writing it down. It's the exact same thing with your

thoughts and your emotions inside of your head. Because a lot of times stress and anxiety and stress don't come from, you know, like stress and anxiety come from your thoughts and thoughts can be very abstract. And so if you sit down and you say, if you, if you're a very anxious person listening to this and you're very like, you're all over the place, just literally take your thoughts and put them on a piece of paper and you'll notice your anxiety disappeared by like 50% because they're not dancing around in your head and they're not abstract anymore. You now have them on the piece of paper. And the cool thing about that is now you can look at that piece of paper anytime that you want, which means that your brain

feels the feeling of, oh, I can release this. And it allows you to semi-release it so you don't have to think about it because you can always come back to it. And I always tell people the way that I figure this out was I do this thing called a to-do list meditation, where I realized that when I sat down to meditate, all of the things that I needed to do for the day and thoughts and ideas came up and popped in my head and I couldn't stop thinking about them. Right. And so the way I came up with it before, right. It's every, it's everybody's this way. It's just hard to stop thinking because we're so overstimulated. So I'd sit there with my eyes closed. I'd have my journal and my pen and I would never open my eyes, but anytime something would come into my thoughts and my awareness, I just write it down. And it'd be all kinds of scribble marks. If it was,

oh my gosh, I just had this great business idea. It's going to make me an extra million dollars. It was down. If it was, I need to take out the laundry or take out the trash and do the laundry. I would write it down. I'd write on every single thing that popped. I got to feed Toby. Okay. I'd write it down. So it could be the most mind blowing thing. It could be the most mundane thing, but I put it all down. And what happens after about 15 minutes, you don't have anything to write down anymore. And you get to this level of calm that allows you to go, okay, now I can actually truly meditate. And you, you realize that your brain can release it once it's on that paper. Then what you do is you take that piece of paper when you're done, you, it's going to look all

crazy because you weren't looking at the paper. So it's gonna be all scribble marks and stuff. Right. And now you make your to-do list out of it. You rank it from number one, you know, one to three, which ones are the most important and just try to make sure that you get number one done today. If you can get number two done, if you can't get number three done and your life becomes so much easier because all of these abstract thoughts that are running around your brain are now on the piece of paper and you can look at them and decide what you need to do to take care of them. I think not only is this good too, for people that are just struggling and stressed and anxious, but if you're doing this all, if like, if you're already in a good

spot, I think this is how you elevate it. I think like, like doing this exact activity that you're talking about right now is what has like skyrocket a lot of like a lot of like the reason I feel so clear going into 2020 and like these things have just been coming to me is because I've developed a lot more self-awareness around all these thoughts when they're coming. And I think like when you look at just musicians, artists, peak performers, athletes, it's like they always talk about like they get these visions and these dreams and like they hear something and they get this thought. Right. And it's almost like I think a lot of people oftentimes think that they just like those people just get those. But I oftentimes tend to think that maybe there's listening a

little bit better. And a lot of times all these things are coming in and flooding into your senses, but people aren't really picking up them as much. And so just by getting them down onto a sheet of paper, if you're like running your own business right now, it's like how many other things, like when you have all those thoughts, just getting it down and getting it clear, it will make you more organized obviously. But, and I think it can also help deal with a lot of emotional relief and things like that too, that will allow you to go into a different place. There's, um, I don't know the exact quote, but there's a quote somewhere in the Bible and it's, it says, and whether you're religious or not, it doesn't matter. Cause I'm not religious in

any sort of way. Um, was raised very religious, but there's a quote in the Bible, um, that says when you're silent, God speaks. And I believe in like God, the universe, all this stuff. I don't believe any religion, but I believe there's something that's out there. Um, I've had some psychedelic journeys that have showed me that it exists. Uh, cause I was in a very, a few years ago, I was at a place where I didn't believe in anything and I was just basically an atheist and, uh, and I just didn't believe anything was there. We just weren't food when we die. And then I had these experiences and I started going more into it and thinking about it. And what you'll realize is that when you're silent, your best ideas come up. When you're

silent, you start to realize things that you should and shouldn't be doing in your life. And for me, like I, I'll give you the perfect example is, uh, is we were, I was sitting and talking to my girlfriend the other day and I said, I was, I was just driving and we were driving from, uh, from Port St. Lucie down to Miami. And, uh, it's about a two hour drive. And I said, Hey, have you ever thought about where ideas come from? She's like, yeah, I guess so, but not really much. And I was like, where do they come from? Like anybody ever thought of that? Like of that? Because they only come when you're silent or when you're in what they call theta state, which is usually when you're in the shower. Used to be when you were taking a dump, but now everybody has their phones when they're taking

dumps. So then there's no theta state you get to. Theta state is basically when you get to meditation, that's the space that you're in. Theta state is a child between zero to seven years old. They're usually in theta state. It's a deep contemplative, thoughtful state. And we never allow ourselves to get there anymore because we don't sit quietly in a room by ourselves. But our best ideas come from us. Why everyone's ideas come from the showers or when they're driving. And so I thought, I literally asked, where do ideas come from? And I thought, you're coming up with ideas that you've never actually thought about in your entire life. And there's no proof of them in the past. A lot of times it's like comes out of nowhere,

comes out of nowhere. But where the fuck is that? Nowhere coming from? Is it God? Is it the universe? Like what is it that's actually coming down and giving the idea? Maybe it's your higher self that's giving it to you. Maybe it's just making new neural pathways and connections because you're quiet. Maybe it's God. Maybe it's the universe, but it comes when you're quiet. So if you're really trying to change your life, just try to be more quiet. Simple. That's profound. If you want to change your life, just be more quiet. Yeah. Stop talking to everybody. Stop being on Instagram and Facebook and all of that stuff. And I feel like too, people are going to hear that and they're like, all right, Rob, you know, I get it.

That's great. And oh man, go sit on your meditation pillow. But I got real problems that I have to deal with, you know, and things like that too. But well, you'll find your real solutions when you be quiet. Right. If you stop trying to deal with their problems, start trying to think of, think through your problems, get your inspiration from being quiet and figure out where it's from. Because most people are the people, not everybody, because I don't like to put everybody into a

monolith and say everybody's this way. But a lot of people, they're so busy dealing with their problems that they never actually deal with their problems because they're always in reaction mode. And there's a difference between reactive and proactive. Most people wake up and they're in reactive mode. They wake up... And I used to do this when I worked for somebody else. I would wake up 15 minutes before I needed to leave. I'd take a quick shot, fix my hair. I put my clothes on and I'd leave as soon as I could. I was just in reaction. I was just putting out fires all day long. And that's what I did. But then when I started waking up an hour earlier and I started reading, I started journaling, I started giving myself space for my more intelligent self, my higher self, God, the universe, whatever it is

to give me the information that I need to, or to just start working things out is when things actually started working out. So if you have problems, the reason why you have problems is because you've created the problems in your life. And first off, you need to, if you have problems, you need to actually realize that all of your problems in your life are your problems. They're not the government's, they're not Trump's, they're not your mom's, your dad's, anybody else's. The reality that you have is the reality that you've created. So if you're trying to get out of the reality that you have, you need to stop being the same person that created all of those. It's like Einstein said that you can't solve, you can't change your life with the same thinking

that created the problems, right? So if you're trying to change them by always putting out problems, why don't you change yourself so that you stop creating the problem? All these things that you're saying too, it's like so simplistic in nature. It's all simple. I think people overcomplicate what the actual problems are. I just took a three-day retreat and a lot of our listeners just did the same thing with our ACE 2020 Blueprint, which is essentially a, uh,

just a, a reflection, vision, casting and goal setting process for the new year. And I finally, after really, uh, you know,

with, with work and getting my other company started up over the past couple of months and even this podcast, it's been a lot of go, go, go. And for me, it was one of the first times where I got a good couple of days to do

nothing other than just really reflect on the past year. And it's like, I even talked about this on, I think, the last podcast that we did. For the next month and a half, it was like I was literally thinking about where are these ideas coming from? Because I was getting these hits. And regardless of what you believe, that's God, the universe. I'm like, these weren't in my head before. I've never thought that thought in my entire life. And that came out of nowhere.

And like, I'm getting like three or four of these every single day. All of a sudden these crazy business ideas started flooding into me. I'm like writing everything down. And actually, by the way, keeping track of it, which is, I think is the next thing. It's like giving yourself that space. And like you mentioned earlier is actually like when you get those ideas, writing them down, taking notes on them and getting a chance to just do that audit of yourself of really like have some self-awareness of where you're at

and where you want to be and allow things to come to you. Well, here's what's interesting. You know how people talk, people would say that's the law of attraction, right? And for people who are not woo-woo-y and spiritual like I wasn't three years ago, I'm very analytical and I need to see the proof and the scientific reasons why this works. So I'm very much on the woo-woo-wee side now because I've gone on those journeys, but I'm also still very much based in the scientific analytical brain of mine that hasn't disappeared. The law of attraction works like this. So when you're saying that you sat down and you got a whole bunch of ideas after you started planning stuff, there's a thing called the reticular activating system inside of your brain. So there's 2 trillion bits of information

for anybody listening that's ever heard this, 2 trillion bits of information that somebody can listen to or hear or see or feel or touch or taste that your brain could have come in at one point in time. But if you had 2 trillion bits of information, your brain would explode. Like you wouldn't be able to process anything. Like we're sitting here in Miami. Like I can see all of these buildings, the cars, everything that's... Yeah, you're thinking about your feet, you're touching there, there's a light over there. There's so many things that your brain could be focusing on. So there's 2 trillion, but your brain focuses on only, can only focus on 200 bits of information

per second. So it's filtering out almost the entire 2 trillion. So what your brain needs to do is it needs to figure out how to filter out and what to filter out and what to focus on. What's important. This is why somebody, you'll be walking down the street and you'll think of your mom and your mom's name is, you know, Deborah. And you'll see someone, you'll think of your mom and then 10 minutes later, you're, let's make it easier because you don't call your mom Deborah most likely. Let's say your friend's name is Deborah,

right? And you're walking down the street and you think of, oh man, I haven't seen Deborah in 10 years. I should probably call her up. And then you're walking down the street and somebody's having a conversation like, hey, Deborah, come over here. And you're like, oh my God, I just thought of my friend named Deborah. She just spoke about Deborah. I must need to call Deborah. Well, it's not that the universe is putting something into it. Maybe it is. I'm not smart enough to know this stuff. But what I do know is that your reticular activating system is now set on a name of Deborah. And now what you're doing is you're noticing things that you weren't filtering out before. So if people sit down and they go, what is my dream life? And they plan their dream life. They plan exactly what

it is that they want. The reticular activating system will now stop filtering out all of the stuff that you need in order to create that dream life. It'll show you that people places things, opportunities that you need to create whatever it is you need to create. And so you can call it the law of attraction. You call it the universe. You call it God. I don't know if it is any of those things. I don't know if any of those things exist. I think that they do. But what I do know is that your reticular activating system is a part of your brain that tells you what to focus on based off of your previous thoughts. And so what I would like to do is I would like to take my previous thoughts in the present moment before they become previous thoughts and guide my brain on what I want it to focus on before that comes

up in the future so that I can bring in the people, places, opportunity, things that I need to to create the life that I want, the relationship that I want, the friendships that I want, the bank account that I want, the career that I want. And that's the secret to it.

You sit down, you figure out what it is that you want. You set that reticular activating system through journaling, through meditation. What I like to do is through visualization so I can visualize it. And then my brain starts to just notice these things. People can call it the law of attraction, but I know that your brain will focus on what you tell it to focus on. So, and I, like, I love that you're talking about this too. And not only that, but you're mentioning

how people can use this in a positive way. And I don't think a lot of times I don't think people understand that it's happening, whether they know it or not. And it happens in a negative way most times. I can use this to my advantage, but also when you're not using it to your advantage, guess what's happening? It's being used to your disadvantage. Right. If you're watching the news all day, you're noticing all of the negative stuff. Guess what? You're going to see only negative stuff the entire day. It's like, and that's one reason too. It's not that I don't want to be informed,

but I don't watch the news anymore. I don't watch TV. I don't keep up with most of the stuff. And it's not because I just can't watch and I can't enjoy it but it's it's just what people don't realize is like if you've ever hung around someone that you think is very very negative do you just notice how they notice all these like way more things than you even notice you're like did you see how that person talked to you you're like no they notice that and they're like and you're like no right because their brain is actively looking you've told yourself hey this is the way the world works this is how

things should go so your RAS is looking for every single example to prove itself right correct whether that is positive or negative and you have to understand is that if it's not positive right if it's not helping you chances are it's probably inhibiting you correct and and hurting you so here's a good example right you get in a car you got your GPS in your car, right? You set it to where you want it to go. Most people, if they don't control it, they're setting it to go into the dumpster, right? They're literally setting their GPS every single morning, the reticular activating system, to notice all of the crap that's in their life that they don't want. All of those things,

literally they're just heading to the landfill. I mean, or you could just go, you know what? I'm going to wake up every morning. I'm going to set my reticular activating system. I'm going to journal and visualize the life that I want. And therefore, I'm going to take my GPS and focus on this dream life that I want to go to. And that's why you have to kind of be, not even kind of, you have to be proactive in your life and what it is that you want to create. Because if you're not, your brain is naturally negative. Like that's just the, I always tell people your brain is naturally negative. And the reason why is because negative, quote unquote negative, is searching for something bad. 100,000 years ago when we were tribal beings, you had to search for something bad because a

freaking tiger could jump out and attack you. So that's what kept us alive and kept us to actually survive. But if you're not paying attention, your brain, a brain left on, on like, without having any sort of direction is naturally going to gear towards like veer towards the negative survival because it's trying to survive survival mode. It's looking for things that might danger. It might hurt. It might attack it. And that's how we've been for thousands and thousands of years, which is why I think that we live in such an interesting time. Cause this is the first time where like, for instance, my generation, like my generation like we uh millennials like we've never had living in america we never had to worry about most of us at least yeah food shelter survival there hasn't been any wars for us

right we have never like thought about like how am i gonna live today for the vast majority of the population has not had to go through that and so all of a sudden like now your brain like can be turned in the opposite direction it becomes becomes, Hey, like what, like what is life about? Like what are we here to do? If we're just, if we're no longer trying to survive, I'm going to survive till I'm 70, even if I barely try. Right. So now what is my life about? Yeah. And, and with that being said is if people don't notice that they, their brain will naturally gear towards a negative. They could go towards a negative. And one of the things that I love, you know, I'm on, I'm on like the backend of, of millennials, but people always say like, Oh, millennials are so entitled. They don't want to

go into the workforce. They don't want to do this. They don't do this. No, the difference is, is that millennials don't have, like you're saying this, this, uh, this system that they feel like they have to fit in because it's so open at this point. If you think about just even my mom's generation, there was no internet. There was no... So people were like, Rob, you travel all the time. You do all this. You have this dream life. And I'm like, cool. But the reason why is because my mom didn't have the opportunities that I have. And I feel like it would be a kick in the face to her for me to not take advantage of these opportunities to have an online business or travel to do what I want to. Call that entitled if you want, or call it just me breaking out of

the system. And I think what happens is there was a system that was built and up until about 10 years ago, people felt like they had to be stuck in this system. Well, now the younger people, younger generations are realizing that they don't have to take part in this system anymore. And so then the older generations feel like, oh, they're just entitled. No, the difference is they have opportunities that you never had. And so they're taking advantage of these opportunities that you never had. And that seems like a sense of entitlement to you. It's like when the baby boomers like had, you know, their kids. And a lot of times what they were promoted is like America is a land of opportunity. And for a lot of people like them, that's exactly what it was because for like before this, like was. Because before this, it wasn't like you had career options.

It was like you were born into the family you were born into. And that was like 99% of the time, you were going to go right the same path as where your family was. And then all of a sudden, boom, now, hey, just because you came from a bad background, you can go to school, get an education. You could become a doctor or a lawyer. And you have to like, but like, there's still all these rigid systems, but that was an opportunity back then. It was the idea, like you can have a different career. You're not forced to only do one thing. And now people are realizing like, wait, I'm not even forced to have to work my whole life. Like this is just

something we decided. You don't even have to go to college anymore. Like we don't, I don't have to do any of this stuff. Like I actually have, I don't have to survive. Right this stuff. I don't have to survive. And I think that's a difference is we're getting to a place where, again, survival for the first time is no longer something that's going through our process. It's not about survival. It's about how can I thrive and how can I make some difference in the world.

The other thing that people don't ever talk about is if you feel like millennials are entitled, millennials are also, and younger, even younger than us. I see kids that are 12, 13, 14 years old. They're the most accepting people I've ever met. No matter what race, gender, sexuality, any of those things, whatever you want to identify with, they're a hundred percent accepting of it. Do you know who's not? The older generations that are so stuck in their ways. And so it's like, if you have a problem with the younger generations, who created the younger generations?

You did. You and your children and everyone else around you, your friends created the younger generation. And so if they're not fitting into the system that you've always had to fit into, the first thing that I would ask is, is it jealousy on your side? Because I'm just being honest. If I was 60 years old and I was able to look at the lives of people that I know, I would be jealous as well. They have incredible opportunities that were never available. They don't have to go to college. They can literally start a business and make millions of dollars from their living room or from their bedroom if they want to. So there's a big difference between what was and what is now.

And I think that the quicker that people come to terms with it and they just start becoming more accepting, like the younger generations inspire me because they are so accepting. And I noticed myself sometimes not being as accepting as I should. And it shows me faults in myself and it shows me ways that I need to improve. Or I'm like, I don't understand this, this, this, uh, this gender, the sexuality, the fluidity of it as much as they do. Maybe I should look at myself and try to figure out that maybe it's not black or white. Maybe it's not binary. Maybe there is a spectrum. And maybe I should start asking myself, what is it in my own beliefs or the way that I was quote unquote programmed or the way that the people around me and the things that

they said, what is it about them that they taught me or that I noticed and that I accepted that maybe I should go, you know what? The foundation of what I build a lot of my life on might not be true. And maybe I should look and try to be more accepting of people. Cause if you look at it, the issues of what you see people putting on Facebook and all of that stuff come from people not knowing how to accept what other people's lives are, like what they do and what they choose. And if people could just be more accepting, it will be way better. It goes back to what you said earlier. It's the fear of like,

it's the fear of the unknown. It's the same reason why someone won't sit down with themselves in their house is because, and, and this is, as we're talking about judgment, I'm sure you've heard this Rob too, is that oftentimes, um, you know, and this is like, especially when, when I'm talking about the same things that you're talking about right now, which is like, when I realized I'm noticing I'm judging myself. It's oftentimes when we judge people, right? Or we like have emotional reactions to like how people are, how people live their lives or things that we see. They're usually, you know, based on things that are already inside ourselves or things that we can't accept and talk to ourselves that we haven't really come to terms with yet.

Correct. A lot of times too. And I think it goes back to that same thing. It's people's inability to sit alone with themselves in a room, right? Man, I'll just tell you what, like if people could just learn to love people more and just accept and go, you know what? I don't understand, but can you help me understand? Like that, that doesn't happen much anymore. I feel, and obviously not everybody's that way, like I said before, but if people could just go, you know what? I don't understand that this person, like one of the things that I see is like, you know, I don't understand why people have to be this way, but they can't accept other people's sexuality. They can't accept other people's gender fluidity,

or they can't accept any of these things. And instead of judging and saying, no, that's wrong, that's not the way that God made it, or whatever it is that you believe in, Just going, what if I could just sit down in a room with this person, just have a conversation? What you realize once you start talking to people is they're just normal people that just have the exact same lives as you or struggles as you. We're all just the same. And to be honest with you, if you want to go even deeper, we're all just broken children inside that are trying to just put the pieces back together. That's really what it is. And if you can realize like the quote says, everyone that you meet is dealing with a struggle that you know nothing about, you could just be more loving with people and be like, I don't understand

them, but could I try to understand? Because what they do in their life has no impact on my life. So could I at least try to show someone that I accept the way that they are and understand them and have a conversation just to learn more versus just automatically going straight to judgment because I don't understand. So transitioning here a little bit, I've got to ask you too, you mentioned earlier, even how you've always been a lot more rational, more analytical and you obviously had a shift. You said it was a lot of us caused by psychedel psychedelics. Yeah. I love it. Um, you don't, you know, Mark Gober is Mark Gober.

I don't think so. Yeah. We had him on the show a little bit earlier. He did a, wrote an entire book on this stuff that, uh, there's the research from Hopkins and FBI and a lot of other things of the past 30, 40 years. Really, really good read. Um, and it's just disproving the myth that consciousness is produced in the brain. Um, and he talks about how psychedelics affect that. Um, tell me a little bit about maybe like that experience in terms of how that shifted, like what, like, I guess maybe give people a perspective shift also to, for, I think maybe the people that have never done that too. Like what do you feel like changed inside of you? Um, and like a different mindset or thought that you had do you have about four hours I could I can literally talk all day long about this we could do a whole other episode

on just psychedelics so um okay so so here's what I'll say is I want to become the best version of myself and I felt like personal growth got me to a certain point but after 12 years of it I felt like I had kind of learned most of it or heard most of it. Right. And then so, you know, I had heard about in 2012, this stuff called ayahuasca and DMT. And so I did ayahuasca, for those of you guys who don't know, is just a tea that they make in Peru. They've been doing it for about 5,000 years. And they basically say it's a tea that will allow you to meet the highest version of yourself.

It'll allow you to figure out who you are, to figure out your issues, to help you become the best version of yourself. So I did that. And I saw things that I'd never seen that I can't even actually explain. It's hard to explain other dimensions, especially when you're super analytical and this is like blasting you off to another dimension you're talking to. But basically, if I were to first, let me go ahead and tell the analytical people, okay? All of these psychedelics, which a psychedelic, just so you guys know, is not a hallucinogen. Those are two different things. A psychedelic, psych means mind, delic means clear, clear mind. It allows you to just kind of knock all the shit off the table that's in your way. And you can also

look at it like MDMA, which, uh, which I had an MDMA therapy session, um, uh, a couple of weeks ago and I was six, six hours straight. I took it and I meditated for six hours and I had probably some of the most profound connections and realizations in my entire life from doing that. There was no hallucinogen. My reality did not distort, but my mind got very clear. So there's ayahuasca, there's magic mushrooms, there's MDMA, there's ketamine. I mean, there's so many different ones of them. There's huachuma, which is called San Pedro. It's a cactus. Mescaline. There's There's, there's tons of different ones, but I will tell you is this is, um, there is proof. If you just are out there and you're like, no, no way. First off, ask yourself why, because you've been programmed to think that those things are bad. That's why,

because the war on drugs, you know, dare when we were kids growing up, they made us believe that these drugs were bad. Um, that's why most people like to call them medicine is because literally it's the easiest way to think of it is whatever is wrong inside of you, it'll help you fix. And that's that. If you look at the, if I could put in the most simple example, people like to think that there's nature and then there's humans, but humans come from nature. You, like I'm looking at you, every part of you comes from nature. Everything that you've eaten, drinking, every cell, everything that you've ate, drank, the shirt that you're wearing is made out of cotton that came from the earth. Every single part of you, the water that you're drinking right there could have been... I mean, it's not like it just appeared. That water has been there since

the beginning of time, like 4.5 billion years or however long... That's the hell in the universe has been around, but it's been there for 4.5 billion years. That right there could have been on the wing of a pterodactyl and it could have been the dew. Like there's so many different things that people don't think about. So when you, the reason why I say this is because if you zoom out from the earth, you realize that you're a part of earth. You are earth. You feel like you're, you're separate from this earth, but you're actually part of it. And so once you realize that you realize that the earth is way more advanced and a bajillion times smarter than we are. And so it will fix whatever's wrong. Just like if you get a cut, your brain, consciousness, whatever it is, you don't

even have to think about it. Your cut will heal itself. So the same thing works where sometimes when you have these things and you drink these things, it puts you back to homeostasis. Whatever is not right in you, it will fix. The trauma, the sadness, the anxiety. I had a friend I was with yesterday and she said she did mushrooms, just one gram of mushrooms, which is not enough to send you off into the middle of the universe and blast you off. Her anxiety just disappeared. She hasn't had it since. She had like crippling anxiety before. And so if you want, like the analytical people will actually want to Google it. Google psilocybin, which is mushrooms, psilocybin mushrooms. They're about to be legalized because you can actually literally take MDMA or psilocybin mushrooms within the next six months. They're going to be legalized for you to take them

and sit down with a therapist and go through all of your issues. Because of the fact that it's getting rid of PTSD, it's getting rid of alcoholism, it's getting rid of drug addicts, people that are addicted to heroin. There's such an issue right now with people in pharmaceuticals and all of the drugs that people are addicted to, that the government needs something to fix it because it's getting to the point where it's like got a fever pitch. Which by the way, all the addictions that we created, all the real medicine. They come from humans, right? Humans created this if humans know anything. And then if you look at all of these plants and things that you drink and these teas that you can take, they're about to be legalized because there's so much proof that these are

helping people overcome their traumas. Even people that have terminal illnesses and they have psilocybin mushrooms, they have this profound godly experience and they have crippling fear of what's going to happen before they die. And they do one session of mushrooms and it's gone. It's gone. Like they're okay with dying. There's people that, you know, people that take ayahuasca.

I think it's like a 70% success rate of people addicted to heroin, which is considered the most addictive substance that there is. 70% of them get off of heroin. Well, how can you explain that? There's people that take psilocybin mushrooms that are addicted to cigarettes. And it's crazy. It's like 70% of them, 75% of them aren't addicted to cigarettes anymore. There's people with PTSD. They take actual, you know, and this isn't like people are doing this in their basement and starting to figure this out. I'm talking like Harvard, Johns Hopkins

University, multiple disciplinaries of psychedelic studies. All of these are going through and studying these and realizing that the benefits are so insane that they can't push it down anymore. It's fixing a lot of the problems that almost everything else that we've tried has not been able to fix. Correct. It's fixing. I think, you know, what it's doing for a lot of people, it's just giving way, cause a lot, like a lot of the emotional and mental like problems that we have and anxiety. Like a lot of these are things are causing the actual physical ailments and the illnesses that we're seeing like spike up out of nowhere all across the country.

Yeah. Like people can have like shingles for instance, a lot of times, not always, but a lot of times shingles come from stress and anxiety or emotional trauma. And that's thoughts manifesting with something happening in the body. That's something that you could see, but a lot of times it's internal as well. The soreness, the back, the shoulder issues, all the stuff that you have, you know, your gut issues that could happen as well, come from some sort of emotional, could not always, could come from some sort of emotional trauma or something that you're not dealing with. Even again, like Jeff's wife, Heidi, you know, she's a like very top-notro doctor, uh, one of the hospitals down here. And like almost all the problems when all these young kids come in and they all have like,

like, not like, Oh, my stomach hurts. Like, I mean like serious, like gut problems, like they need to like sometimes be operated on. They have like serious problems. They're like, they can't eat anything. They puke all the time. Most of them end up being emotional stuff. Most of them be, Hey, they're stressed out at school. Most of them be like, they don't, they're being bullied. They're, they're anxious. They can't, they can't sit down. Like they're like all these different things that are causing now very serious physical ailments inside of these children. And so what I always tell people is like, listen, I don't, I don't think everybody should do psychedelics. I don't even need people to believe that they're great for them. Um, but what I would

say is once again, as we were talking about a minute ago, just have an open mind. Like don't judge right away. If there's like for the analytical mind, like when there's statistical data that shows that I think, you know, I don't know the numbers off the top of my head, but it was people with PTSD that come back from war and they have crippling PTSD. They do one MDMA or an MDMA is... That's actually man-made, believe it or not. So MDMA or psilocybin session. And it was like 63% or something like that didn't have it within a couple of days. They didn't have PTSD again after a couple of days. And then they went back a year later and it was like 75% of people. So actually the processing of what they went through over the last, you know, the experience and then implementing it into their life actually helped them get rid

of it for another 12%, 12 or 30%, whatever it was. So I don't need people to believe in it. I don't think everybody needs to do it. But what I would say is just, you know, if it works for someone else, why can't you just let it work for them? Maybe journaling works for you. Maybe a long walk on the beach works for you. Maybe you want to do MDMA or psilocybin or ayahuasca or mescaline or any of those things, watch humor, all the things that I've done. You can if you want to. But more than anything else, it's just like find what works for you and then actually put in the time to work on yourself because that's what most people don't do. They don't allow themselves the time. You know, I did an MDMA session.

Let's just say I wasn't in America just for legal reasons because it's not legal yet. But I did an MDMA session at my house. And when you were saying it's like a lot of people have too many things that they're thinking about. The way I explained it was this. I did an MDMA session. I was at my house, laid on the floor, meditated for six hours. And I did MDMA. And then two hours later, I took a little bit more, which is what you're supposed to do. And I also took a half a gram of mushrooms as well. And that six hours were some of those

profound six hours I've ever had. And it's basically like if this entire table was just filled with crap, that's how most people's minds are. And so they can't think about the real things that actually matter because there's so many other things, right? Taking these things psychedelics, which makes you clear mind is like clearing off the entire table and going, okay, what do I really need to change about myself? It was every single relationship that I have with my girlfriend, with my mom, with my nephews and niece, with my sister, with my best friend, Dean, all of these relationships came up of, this is what you're doing wrong. This is how you should do better. Right. And then after that, and I literally went through all of them. I was like, I don't have anything else to think about. I was like, what if I think about my business? Literally, I got my entire business

plan that I've been trying to figure out done. And I didn't even write anything down. How long did you spend trying to figure that out up until that point? I mean, I have the pieces, but they weren't connecting. You know, when you look at the actual brain of the way it works and you look at, if anybody's out there, you just want to just Google the brain on mushrooms

and go to Google Photos and it'll show you the placebo. So, you know, what's not the placebo, but the actual sugar pill that people take and the way that your brain in different colors that you'll see in this picture are different nodules of your brain talking to each other.

And then the other one is just, it's like parts of your brain have never spoken, which means you've to each other, which means you've never made these connections. You're getting brand new connections. So I have, I have these pieces of my business that I was like, ah, it's so close. And it was literally like, oh my God, this is it. 30 minutes later, I was like, oh my, I never thought of this. I never thought of this. I never thought of this. I never thought of this. And I'm like, this could make me like an extra $2 million next year. Like that it's that. And I didn't, all I did was take time. But what I'm trying to get to is how often do people actually take six hours by themselves to work on themselves? Right. Whether that's even just

with reading or with journaling without having to have any sort of psychedelics, having a cup of coffee, sitting on your balcony and you know, taking six hours to work on yourself. That's what it really comes down to. Whether it's with psychedelics, whether it's not, whether it's through some substance or whether it's not, it doesn't matter. Whatever works for you, works for you, but find out what works for you and then actually take the time to do it. And that's, I mean, that's, looks like the theme of this whole episode is just taking out that time for yourself. You know, I guess my last question, Rob, is because we have to wrap things up here. Someone's listening to this, You know, I guess my last question, Rob, is because we have to wrap things up here. Someone's listening to this, you know, and they're saying, okay, hey, I get it. Like,

I need to take that time. Like, whatever works for me works for me. But like, I clearly don't know what works for me. Like, how do I, how do I, how do I find that? I can't, like, I get nervous. I get anxious just sitting down alone. I get anxious or whatever I, whatever they have that's going on that's preventing them from being able to do that stuff. I'm too busy. Yeah. Like how does someone start that process? I know it works for me. And I think that that one thing that works for people is, you know, if you have an extra 50 or a hundred bucks in your bank account, let's just say that go on Airbnb and just rent an Airbnb for a day. Don't allow your phone to come with you. And then just sit there with a pen and paper and not, and. Usually what happens is when you have expectations, the expectations actually block you from getting to where you need to go.

And so just sit there and go, I'm just going to sit here. Maybe I'll get anxious. Maybe I won't. Maybe I'll get downloads from the universe. Maybe I won't. But I'm just going to allow my smartest version of myself to try to come through and tell me how I need to improve myself, what it is that I should do. Because ultimately, I believe that every person has every answer that they need inside of them. They don't need anybody else most of the time. If it's crippling and they need a therapist, they need a therapist. But most of the time, they don't need anybody else. I believe that every person has the answers they need to inside of themselves.

They just don't allow themselves to get quiet. We're here in Florida right now, right? Right. I believe that every person has the answers they need to inside of themselves. They just don't allow themselves to get quiet. So even if you, you know, like we live in, we're here in Florida right now, right? Right. Take,

take a day and go to the beach and sit on the beach by yourself and then just give it just the, the main tip I'll give you is just give yourself space to try to figure out what works for you with a pen and paper and just see what you come up with. Hmm. Rob, it's been a pleasure having you on the show, man. It's quick by fast.

I was like, all right, now let's get into some of the content that we were going to talk about. And I'm like, oh, well, there goes the hour. So hopefully it's going as fast and our listeners have been able to enjoy as much as we have to.

So thanks again. For sure, man. We should probably do a follow-up one on this. We could do a whole entire, sounds like we could do one entire one on psychedelics. Yeah, another couple of days if we went off in a different direction. So thanks again.

It was a pleasure, Rob. Yeah, appreciate it. Cool. And by the way, people want to connect with you. Yeah. And, or check out some of your stuff. I want to make sure we give the audience an opportunity to do that.

Yeah. They can find you on, what's your best platform? Facebook, Instagram? Facebook, Instagram, or Rob Dial, J-R. So they can do the handle Rob Dial, R-O-B-D-I-A-L-J-R. So Rob Dial Jr.

And then if they want to listen to my podcast, it's the Mindset Mentor. And I mean, if they just put my name, Rob Dial, into Google, it'll pop up.

And we'll leave this in the show notes for all you guys that are listening here right now. For sure. Awesome. Have a great start to your year, everybody.