The Mindset Mentor - My Life Story (in an interview)

Episode Date: July 12, 2017

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my good friend, John Vroman. John Vroman has a podcast called The Front Row Factor, and he wanted to interview me. And so this is actually an interview. This is somewhat more in-depth than I probably ever have gone on my podcast. And so it's a long interview. It's about an hour long. And I wanted to share this with you. So if you don't know everything about me, you can know a lot more about me and definitely check out John's podcast. Front Row Factor is what it's called. But this right here and no further ado is a podcast of me, yours truly being interviewed by John Vroman. Well, dude, let's talk about you and your world. Um, I was going to ask the question, like, what can we celebrate with you right now? But I feel like I could toss out some things that are going on in your world that we

could celebrate. Um, I'm going to ask the question anyway and see if you go where I was going to, I was going to lead, but dude, what's, uh, what's, uh, what's a highlight in your world right now? Something great. Honestly, man, like I don't like, I literally am getting goosebumps just thinking about how great life is at this point. Um, because I've made it a focus to like live with intention. Um, and so in two and a half weeks, I'm moving to Italy, which is, uh, coolest thing ever because actually I could tell you, I could tell you this story. If you want to bring it back to, to where this all started, it was the very first Hal Elrod conference when we were in San Diego and I was working for a company and I was making more money than I ever had in my entire life, but I was completely unfulfilled. And, um, and I was sitting in my hotel room with Aaron Luden and Dean DeVries.

And I was like, I want to, this was after the first day, I have to do something where I'm impacting other people's lives. Like I I'm, what I'm doing now is not fulfilling. I'm making tons of money. I'm making, I'm saving tons of it, all of this stuff. I'm I've bought new things, but there's no fulfillment. I was like, I need to start something where I feel like I'm going to help people. Um, and then I, it kind of over the next five months, the plan came together and I was like, I'm going to start a podcast. I'm going to get this going. And my goal, January of 2015, because it was December of 2014 was what that conference was, was to be able to build a

business where I can work exclusively online and impact millions of people's lives so that I could travel anywhere that I want to. And it's not that I don't want to live in Austin. I want to live in Austin, but I also want to live in other places as well. And so basically what I did was I decided that I was going to build a business. I was going to impact people's lives and it's coming to fruition. And I'm moving to Italy June 1st, which is two and a half weeks away. So that's the most exciting thing, but I could give you a laundry list of all the things that are exciting in my life at this point in time. Yeah. I love this one. And that is where I was going to go with the conversation because this, this inspires me on many levels and I'm so happy for you and I'm happy for Italy.

Yeah, for sure. They're going to get you. Um, I I'm happy for the world and what you're doing. Um, you know, I, I love your podcast, MWF motivation. I, I, you've been crushing it. Uh, I've been privileged to be a guest on your show and I've listened to your show as a fan. Um, so happy about where all this is heading. And you've not only, you did the podcast and you started coaching people, um, very successfully coaching people. Now that's actually not new for you either because for years you've been coaching. Yeah. Yeah. Um, when would you say you officially got into coaching? What, what year would you say that became part of your life? I know it was for another company, but right. So if, if we're talking back to the way we originally

met was through Cutco. Um, if we're talking that form of coaching where, you know, I hired, trained and coached over 2000 sales reps by the time I was 24. Um, that one of my very first coaching that I actually like to tell people, which is kind of like people like, well, who's, who have you coached? Is there anybody famous? And I'm like, well, I coached Doug Baldwin, who is the wide receiver for the Seattle Seahawks. Um, he was my number one rep in the summer of 2007. And yeah, in Pensacola, Florida, it was before he went to go be a, um, a wide receiver for Stanford. And so he was a 17 year old kid. And, you know, it was the first time where I had somebody come in and it was my office and he was my number one rep and he would come in every single morning and I

would coach him and try to make him better. And that was kind of the moment in my life where I was like, this, I think this is what I'm designed to do. This is, this is what I'm alive. Like there's people have always, for some reason, my entire life kind of reached out to me and, and I've been a really good listener. I wanted to be a psychologist for a long time. And then I realized what I was doing was being a psychologist. And, um, and when I got out of it, when I left and went to the corporate world, I just, that was what was unfulfilling to me. It was like, I feel like I'm getting pulled in this direction where I need to go back to it and keep doing it. And so, um, if we use that, it's been, it's been, you know, 10 years now, uh, that I've been, that I've been

doing it. So I started, uh, started, started a very young age. It's been a decade now. So people always look at me and they're like, well, you're so, you're so young. Like, how is it, how's it possible? I was like, I don't know. I guess I just kind of was forced to grow up early by this, this knife selling company, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's so true. Dude, there's so many places I want to take the conversation. Cause I want to stick with the Italy thing about like, how did you pick this? How did you design that? I want to talk about the coaching element because I think in our community, as we were talking pre pre show about, you know, in the front row community, there's so many people that want to, as we call it, of course, living a front row life, which really means just one of

engagement, one of being present, one of celebration, one of creating these epic moments that we can ultimately day in and day out, live a life one day that we become very proud of, um one of creating these epic moments that we can ultimately day in and day out live a life one day that we become very proud of, of how we strung together all these great front row moments in our lives. So I want to get into that about what you see people and what they're learning from your coaching. But before we do all that, I'm going to take us back even further, further before Cutco and just give the quick story about Rob Dial as a kid. I don't know that, I don't think I know this story. So yeah. All right. So let's go through it. So it's, it's funny because I used to be very closed off and now I'm, I try to be as open, honest,

and vulnerable as much as I possibly can. Um, and the reason why I was closed off is because I kind of had a troubled childhood. So my parents got divorced when I was nine because of the fact that my father was an alcoholic. And so most of through a very long two and a half hour meditation a couple months ago, I realized that I was like, what, what was I dealing with most as a child? What was it? And immediately, like the answer came to me and it was literally, I saw the letters in front of me and it was uncertainty. And my life was complete. It was filled with uncertainty. I had an alcoholic father and he was never abusive, never physically or mentally abusive, any of that stuff. It's just, um, he had a lot of demons himself. He, uh, he was 12 years old and actually saw him father, his father kill himself. Um, and

so he had all of those demons that he never, never came to, to really face head on. So he was in the room with his two younger sisters and his mom when his father killed himself. He had stomach cancer and started drinking and just went crazy. So he's 12 years old when that happened. And so my father became an alcoholic. And so the uncertainty that I was dealt with was, he would say that he would come pick me up to go fishing. And, you know, I must have blocked these memories from my mind. My mom says there was days where I would just sit out on the porch for like hours just waiting for him to show up. And he would just never show up.

There's times that I remember he was supposed to pick me up from baseball games. And there's one specific time I remember he was supposed to pick me up from a baseball game. And it was before cell phones. And he was supposed to pick me up. I was sitting on the bleachers. The lights are timed and the lights went off. It started raining. And I was literally a nine-year-old kid terrified in the rain by myself. And so it was uncertainty. And then when I was 15, he passed away from being an alcoholic. And so that was uncertainty. A lot of the time,

it was like, how much longer is he going to live was a lot of my uncertainty. And then when he finally passed away, it was like, well, what do I do now? And so what I realized through that was that he became an alcoholic because he never dealt with the things he needed to, right? His demons he never dealt with. And so mine was, oh, I need to figure out how to go head on to my demons and overcome them. And then once I got to a certain point, I realized, well, I can teach people this. I can tell people my story and maybe they can pull something from

it that's inspiring to them and they could do the same. Um, and so I can honestly say that I truly actually believe that selling Cutco probably saved my life because I know a ton of people who have overdosed and I come from the number one, um, in, in the state of Florida, the number one city for overdose through opiates. And I know a ton of people who have overdosed from it. I've had friends of overdose from it. I could have gone down that path, but at 19 years old, it was like, it came to me at the perfect time. And I realized this might be the thing that can shift my life into the direction that I want it to. And so it was like, I, I hired John Berghoff, which everybody listening probably knows who John Berghoff is, and how to be my coaches.

I was actually either their first or second coaching client. When I was 19 years old, I paid 500 bucks a month to talk to him for 30 minutes every single week. I talked to Hal once a month, and I talked to John three times a month. And it was more than I paid in rent. And it was the best investment I ever had because it was kind of like, I finally had that male mentor that showed me the right path to go down. And it changed my life. And so I, that was kind of the troubled path that I

had. We didn't have money. You know, there was a lot of times, I remember the first Christmas we had when my parents got divorced. We, we went to a, my mom and I went to a woman's shelter. And the only reason why I went was because that's where I got my Christmas presents and we'd have money for Christmas tree. So we used a, a little like pine cone Christmas tree is our, uh, like an ornament that we had as our Christmas tree. And so, um, it's, it's, it seems like a different life looking back. Um, but I, uh, I, that's the, I was very afraid to, to allow those emotions to come out when you're a 15 year old boy and your father passed away. You don't really, you don't talk about that. You know, you don't talk about emotions and stuff. And so he passed away on a Thursday. I went back to school on Monday,

um, and just acted like it never happened. And a lot of people never knew that it happened. And so, um, that was when I started to run for my issues. And then when I got to 19, I was like, this is not affecting me the right way. Like I need to go head on with them. And, um, and so that's my, uh, in a nutshell, my, my childhood as a kid. Wow. Well, thanks for sharing that, man. I did not know most of that. I knew some of that. Um, I recall as you were telling it, but, uh it. But thank you for opening up in that way. I think a lot of people, just generally, a lot of people can relate to struggle or pain in their own unique way. So many times we experience it in unique ways, but pain, we understand what it's like to be uncomfortable or face uncertainty. That's very descriptive, too, man. Thank you for

telling us that. Pain is inevitable, but suffering is a choice. And so I went through the pain. That was just what I was dealt, man. Like that's the way it goes. I was dealt those cards. There's nothing I could do about what I was dealt, but I can choose how I view it and what importance I give to it as well. Yeah. Where do you think that you discovered that idea of, you know, pain is inevitable, but suffering is a choice. Uh, do you remember the moment when you kind of made a decision? Was it, was it through the coaching or was it through just a, you took a long run and it hit you? Do you remember when you'd kind of turned the corner that there? So there was, there's one specific, I can literally remember the exact second I was on a phone call with Berghoff and I was sitting in my car that was

right outside the townhouse that I lived in. Um, and I was 19 partied a lot, all of those things. And I was really good at excuses. I was really good at, and like, just, Oh, I'm late to this call because of this. I didn't sell as much as I wanted to because of this. But in reality, if you look at my numbers, I didn't make enough phone calls. Like it was all of those things. So I was good at excuses. There's so many people shaking their head right now, Rob, as you're listening, they're like, I am a master of excuses as well. Like, that's just such a good point. Yeah. And so for me, it was, uh, I was, I was, I was, I'm a really good salesperson. So I'm really good at selling. I was really good at selling you all my excuses, but Berghoff, I was 19, which means how old is Berghoff now? 35, 36. Yeah. About that. So he was 24, but he was like basically 85 year old, you know, Buddha. And he

was, he's so freaking wise at that age, which is crazy for me to think about. And he's like, he, he goes, I gotta, I got a question for you. And that's how you always know you're about to get like Berghoff wisdom. Oh God. And he goes, he goes, I got a question for you. If a company succeeds, whose fault is that? And I was like, probably the owner. And he's like, well, if it's a big company, whose fault is it? I was like, it's the CEO's fault. He goes, exactly. He goes, if a company fails, whose fault is that? And I said, that's the CEO's fault. And he goes, okay, if you get to the end of your life

and you view it as a failure or you didn't do everything that you wanted to, whose fault is that? And I was like, that's my fault. And he goes, if you get to the end of your life and you think that, man, I really did everything that I wanted to, my life was successful and, and I have no regrets looking back whose fault is that. And I was like, that's my fault as well.

And he goes, the problem, Robin, I think that you need to come to terms and make the decision of your life is that you're not acting like you're the CEO of your life. If a business fails, it's the CEO's fault. If you look at the end of your life and it is a bunch of failures, it is not the, it's nobody else's fault. It's not at the end of your life and it is a bunch of failures, it is not the, it's nobody else's fault. It's not the excuses that you gave. It is your fault. Nobody else's fault around you. Stuff happened in your life. Stuff happened in your day. It always will happen, but you have to become the CEO of your life. And once he said that it was just like, click, you know, like if it was something just, you know, like Tony Robbins says, like in the

moment of decision, destiny is shaped. It was like, that was it. And I was, I needed to hear it. And it was like, no excuses ever again. I'm in charge of my life. And it was just from there on, I was like, I'm going to make the decision to make my life what I want. And, you know, there was a lot of fears that I think I had, um, at that point in time, fear of rejection, failure, being judged, all of those things. And I immediately, I think from that point on in my life, my, my fear, the thing that drove me was the fear of getting to the end of my life and looking back and realizing that I was wasted potential. And that's what my biggest fear turned into.

And that's been one of my driving forces, um, more than anything else since, since that conversation, probably 11 years ago now. I completely relate to that a hundred percent fear yeah absolutely yeah and i can i can completely relate to profound calls with berghoff yeah it's crazy cool i know a lot of people in our community can for anybody listening by the way john berghoff is also the designer and facilitator with how of the best year ever blueprint event which which is what Rob was talking about. Um, I think you can get to, we'll link to that in the show notes, but we do a collaborative event with front row foundation. We do our celebration at that event every year. And

these are, these are world-class coaches. Uh, if you don't know those guys, um, I bet you there's half of the people listening that do and half that are new and that don't. Yeah. That conference changed my life 100% because I was out of Cutco for so long and I went to it and I felt like I was back. And it was that conference that made me make the decision to start my podcast, which made me make the decision and turn my business, my coaching business even bigger and do group coaching and then be able to move to a different country. So literally, if you link it all back, I guess it's Berghoff every time is really what it is because he was at that event as well. So yeah, if somebody has the opportunity to go to it, I 100% recommend that for sure. Yeah.

Rob, you may have just described the answer to this question, but I'm going to ask it because it's possible there's a new answer or we can go a little deeper. But you're familiar with our language in the front row, and we talk about going from the back to the front and having this transition in our lives where we really step up and engage. When you think about one of your most transformative experiences of life, a front row moment where you really step up,

would you say that that is what you've just described or is there a new one that comes to mind of a, of a defining moment in your life where you really stepped up? I know you've had many. Yeah, I've had a few. I would say that was, that was the first real one where I really stepped up because it went from like, yeah, like if you're using the front row as an example, like I was living probably in like the third or fourth row for a while. Like I was for a long time, I was in the very back row just watching. And then I was like kind of creeping forward. Um, but I think at that point in time was when I really, really changed my life and I set it off and I was like, I'm going to go ahead

and I'm going to, I'm going to just take full control. I'm going to live in the front row. Um, the other time that I could think of, there's two, two other very specific times. Um, the other one was the one that we described when I was at the event and I was like, I'm going to live in the front row. The other time that I could think of, there's two other very specific times. The other one was the one that we described when I was at the event and I was like, I'm going to start my own business. I'm going to do this. I quit my job. I did all of those things. I was done. I burned the bridges at that point in time. But the one that's in the middle, so the first one is a conversation with Berghoff. The second one is two years ago when I decided to start my podcast, my business, all that stuff. The third one was, was the moment when I went out and started my own district office in, in 2009. And, um, my, I think my main, my main goal was to break all of the records, right? That was what I was going for. Um, and I, it's kind of like if you've ever, a lot of people, if you've ever set a really

big goal and I worked harder than anybody ever has in that company, I worked 110 hours a week, every single week for, for years. And the first summer in 2008, 2009, um, my goal was to break Matt King's record because he was my manager at the time. It was like $450,000 in knife sales over a course of, you know, the summer. Um, and I did everything that I possibly could. And I lived my life as the person that at work, she beats you. And if you set yourself on fire, people will come to watch you burn.

That's what I always used to tell myself. And so that was the passion that I tried to put into my sales reps. And it was ultimately at the end when I got there and I realized I hit my goal and I broke the record and all of that stuff that I realized that that didn't change my self-worth at all. So I pushed myself as hard as I possibly could, thinking that I would finally feel like I've accomplished something and finally feel better about myself and maybe fill this hole that was the void that my father had left it, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I got there and I was like, uh, I'm the same. Nothing, nothing has

changed. And, um, and it was that point in time where I realized that it was, it was not about finding external things to make me feel like I was better or not searching for all of the external stuff. It was more internal. Like if I, if I want to feel as, as easy as it sounds, everybody's always searching for some form of significance or self-worth is really what it comes down to. And for me, I was searching for significance and self-worth of being number one. And that's why I was so competitive and always wanted to be there and have the biggest office and all that stuff. And then when I got there, I didn't have any difference in my feeling of self-worth. And then I realized if I want to create self-worth,

if I want to create significance, why don't I just try to do it without any extra, like, let me just try to, can I just sit in my body right now, become present and make myself feel significant. And it's hard to do it first because we're, we're constantly trying to search for something else. Um, but over the past, you know, five, six years, that's been my focus of like, hey, chill out for a minute. I worked 110 hours a week. Now my goal is like, how can I work 40 hours a week but work really freaking efficiently in 40 hours a week and enjoy the rest of my life? And that's where my significance comes from now is just like, if I catch myself worrying or out of the present moment, how can I pull myself back and go, Hey, you don't, you don't need to make more money or you don't need to make more sales or do this or all these things. Like you're already enough as the way you

are. There's nothing else that you need. Um, and so I would think that was my, my, my third real front row life defining moment where it's just like, you know, if when we get off the phone, if I have a couple of minutes, I'm going to make myself as happy as I possibly can in those few minutes. Um, I don't need anything else to, I don't need anything to make myself happy, you know, you know, I've, uh, I've, I've been learning that for about 20 years. It's so hard. I remember when, when I first was exposed to these concepts and ideas and they were, they were so eyeopening and enlightening the challenge that I've found, which I didn't see this coming. I thought that once I learned that I would have that forever,

I would always be able to hold onto that. And I have constantly experienced personally in my life, I've constantly experienced personally in my life slipping back either out of the moment into the back row where it's almost like I'll give you an example. Like so I did these ultra marathons years ago and then I would have this identity of an ultra marathoner. And I actually had the identity up until the point where I was like, I haven't really I can't run more than five miles right now. But yet I still call myself an ultra marathoner. And I realized that I did do an ultra marathon and it's good that I have that belief in myself that I could potentially do anything. I set my mind to that was positive, but the fact that I needed to continue to exercise these concepts and ideas every day of my life and, and, and how at moments of my life I felt like I was enough. And still, if I'm not careful, I'll slip out of that and start comparing myself to others. It's difficult.

Clearly, if you, especially if you level up your network and you just start hanging out with other people to feel like you're not enough. Yeah. Cause I, gosh, Tatiana and I talk about this all the time. It's like, we're so blessed to have so many amazing friends. And at the same time, it's, uh, you know, it's tough to, to be surrounded by brilliant people constantly where you just feel like you're not enough. Yeah. It's, it's, um, I had a friend, a conversation with my best friend who is killing it right now. Um, and for a while, like I, like I made great money. I've, I'm,

I've never been more happy, more fulfilled or made more money in my life. And I love it. And I'm so fulfilled by it. And it was the very first time that he told me how much money he had made for the month. And I wasn't like, Oh my gosh, I got to beat him. Right. Like he, it was, it was actually like a feeling of, dude, I'm so proud of you. Right. Which is, which was hard for me for the longest time. Because if you take the strengths finder, my number one strength on strength finder is competitive, like competitiveness. Like that's my number one thing. And so he told me he's making $45,000 a month. And I was like, Oh my God, like that math is crazy. That's $660,000 a year or

something like that. And then I was like, dude, good for you. Like, I don't, I don't my life between what I make now and making $660,000 a year, there will be no difference in happiness is, is what I've come to realize. And, um, it, one of the things that really, if, if people want to, to kind of at least what's helped me put my mind at ease when I first bought my house a couple of years ago, this is, this is really what happened. Uh, the first six months of owning my house, I hated it. And the reason why was because there was so much fear that something would go wrong and I would deplete all of the money in my bank account in order to fix that house, right?

Like something would happen and, you know, a wall would get knocked off or, you know, and I'd have to spend $100,000 and everything I've worked my entire life to get rid of it and to fix it. And then, you know, I thought that maybe entire life to get rid of it and, or to fix it. And then, you know, I thought that maybe this would happen in this. And I, and if, if you really think about it, and this is why I'm so obsessed with personal growth. This is why I'm so obsessed with making myself the best I possibly can. I was driving by a homeless man and he had a sign on the side of the road and it just clicked at one point in time. And, and I've realized if I lose everything that

I've ever worked for, if my girlfriend ends up realizing that she actually hates me, if my entire family gets stripped away, something terrible happens, I don't want that to happen. If everything that's ever meant anything to me, materialistic or people or all of those things, I still have my body, my health, all of that stuff. Let me take a step back. Let me just talk materialistic because this is different when you talk about family and people that you love and girlfriend and all that stuff. So let me just take, if everything I've ever had,

my car gets taken away from me, all of my money, all of those things, my house gets destroyed, I go bankrupt, all of that stuff. And I'm on the side of the road and I'm holding a sign. Everything can get taken away from me as far as materialistically. Um, but the one thing that can never be taken away from me

is the person that I've built myself to be all of the time that I've invested into becoming the best version of myself, my personal belief. I don't know what happens when we die. Um, I don't know if there's a God, if there's not a God universe, all of those things. My personal belief is that we're supposed to go through all of these challenges and everything that we've been through in order to become the more enlightened, better version of ourself. By the time that we leave this planet, by the time that we, by the time that I leave this meat vehicle that I'm stuck in, I'm supposed to be the best version of myself, right?

That's all that we are. We're a consciousness that's living inside of this meat vehicle. That's it. Um, and the thing that I think is this, if everything gets stripped away from me, um, I know that I've built myself to be the best I possibly can and I can get it back. So, so taking the materialistic side, cause family doesn't make any sense. I don't know why I brought that one up because family would be terrible. Um, girlfriend would be terrible, all of those things, but there's the materialistic things, everything that I've built myself, the money, all of those things. But just the materialistic things, everything that I've built myself,

the money, all of those things, I could always get it back, right? Because I've put so much time, money, energy into making myself the best that I possibly can. And so the thing about that is that that's why you see so many people, they become millionaires, they lose it all. And then guess what they do?

They get it all back. It's because they've already built themselves to be that person that can attract that level of success. And so that kind of, at least for me, made me go, oh, so if I just continue to work on myself, no matter what happens financially, no matter what happens materialistically, it's always, it's going to be good because I know that I'm good. And that's, that's the only thing that really brings me the most peace at this point. Yeah. And you know, I, I get where you were going with the relationship thing too. And I don't, I don't, I get why you wanted to pull it back to the materialistic piece of it. But I'd also say that where I was, I was relating in my heart to

what you were saying about losing somebody you love and how even if you get centered with yourself, if you know who you are, if you find love within, if you find joy and fulfillment within that, you know, and because this is the Front Row Foundation community in many ways, we are talking to and working with a lot of people who've lost loved ones. Yeah. And in that space of losing a loved one, there's no question that there's a tragic loss and a great sadness. And that requires some time and some healing to move past. And in addition to that, it is wonderful when people can mourn the loss of a loved one, pay their respects, and then move into living a life of fulfillment and joy, because that's what our loved ones would really want for us. You know, and so I think that

is a part of our personal growth process is to be able to survive and thrive, even in the face of losing a loved one, the catastrophic loss, our family losing our family. Because, you know, if something were to happen to me, I would, I would family. Because, you know, if something were to happen to me, I would, I would be, it would be nice. Like if, if I was looking down from heaven, let's just use that metaphor. Right. And I saw Tatiana and I had lost my life and, and she was throwing a party the same day. I might be like, Hey, you should be a little more sad. Right. Like, uh, so I'm actually kind of happy that they'd be sad for a moment, but I wouldn't want them to live in that space. Right. I would genuinely want them to heal and recover and

move forward. And I think that work happens internally. I think that we can do that with the support of others. But, um, yeah, I just want to echo that point of how, you know, I just, I've officiated a wedding a couple of days ago. And my, one of the points that I was making in the ceremony was that you're really two full, complete people coming together to form something that is, you know, uh, greater than the sum of its parts, if you will. And, and that to me is the essence of personal growth, you know, that we get to show up and, and, uh, and, and, and handle whatever life throws our way. Yeah. Let's talk about how you, Oh, did you want to add something to that? All I want to say is real quick that deals with that. It's perfect. I had a conversation, real deep conversation with my mom a few months ago and I was back home for Christmas

and she was crying because she felt like it was her fault that she married my father, who she thought had destroyed my sister and my, my own life. And I was like, and mothers never give themselves enough credit, even if they're the best mother in the world, they always think they screwed everything up. Right. And so I told my mom, I was like, you're, the problem is you're, you're, you're looking at it the wrong way. Like this is the cards we were dealt for a reason. And we're not screwed up because of you. Like, it is your fault that your sister, my sister is doing so well and has four kids and you know, is an amazing mother, super amazing person. She's a great realtor. She's successful. And you know why I am as good as I am. And so it's like, that was the cards we were

dealt, but we're as good as we are because you made us as good as we, it is, it's not your fault that you married him. That was the cards. We wouldn't be here if you didn't. So number one, you can't think of it that way, but it's not your fault that you married him. It's your fault that we came out as good as we did. And that's your fault. And, uh, that was like the first time I ever was able to tell that to my mom. And it finally clicked. I could see it in her eyes and she's like, Oh, okay. And that's, that's the thing that I think it's that people need to realize is that it's, it's, it's not what you're dealt. It's how you play that. It's not the cards you're dealt. It's the hands that I think people need to realize is that it's not what you're dealt. It's how you play. It's not the cards you're dealt.

It's the way you play the hand. And so with her, it was a big eye-opening moment. And so if there's anybody out there that has that situation, you can kind of think of it that way. Where it's like, you're in charge of how good you come out or how good the people around you come out. And that's what you're in charge of. Tragedy happens. Things happen. But that's life. Pain, success, happiness, all of those things. So true.

And you're now helping a lot of people through this. Um, you, so you launched this podcast, you know, MWF motivation, Monday, Wednesday, Friday. And, uh, and, and, and you're crushing it. Yeah. I mean, you've got a gazillion downloads. I'm not going to start talking numbers, but I mean, you can if you want. If you want to share anything, you can. But you're crushing it. There's a couple of million that are in there. You're crushing it.

And here's the thing. I used to put importance to the numbers, but I'm not even sure what the numbers are right now because it's not important to me. I just know that there's people that are being impacted, right? Another example of, you know, I used to put my self-worth into that and now I don't anymore, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And then, so you did the podcast and then this ultimately turned into a, a coaching program that you now run. I'm curious, I'm going to give you a kind of a, I'm going to give you a big landscape or a canvas here to

answer this how you want. But I'm curious as to what have you learned by sharing your information with your podcast listeners or by coaching people as to are there are there concepts that you teach that more resonate than anything else? Like when you look at what your lineup is of what you share and teach, are there popular episodes? Are there popular concepts in your coaching business that really resonate with people? Um, so two of them, number one is, is the paradigm lesson, which in and of itself is like an hour and a half long lesson. So we don't have much time to dive into that. But what I've done is over the past 10 years of I've, I've seen Tony Robbins and Bob Proctor and all of these different guys talk about some stuff in very different ways. And I've kind of put my own way of,

of the way that your paradigm feeds into your actions and your belief in your results and the circle that it works with. Um, that's, that's the main thing that I think is, is, is what really impacts people. The easiest one for us that I've into that's quicker is, um, is basically completely taken from Tony Robbins and that's pleasure versus pain. And, um, when I was able to figure out pleasure versus pain, um, I was able to, I literally can tell you the second I happen to have a good memory, which is why it's funny that I'm like, Oh yeah, John Berghoff, this this is exactly I was in my car for both of them but another one was when we were talking about uh I was listening to his audiobook Pleasure Versus Pain and literally

like I have the book yeah it's right over here um where it's like I I can realize the exact second that I was making tons of money I was doing great but everything that I had my pleasure versus pain was was wrong right I was making a lot of money but I wasn't great, but everything that I had, my pleasure versus pain was, was wrong, right? I was making a lot of money, but I wasn't saving it. And so that was the first thing where it was like, when I, when I first get a coaching client, whether it's, you know, one-on-one coaching is I have to figure out what they want their life to be, where their goals are, all of those things, and then find out what they're associating pain to and what they're associating pleasure to. And it's, it's literally that easy to figure out a human. If you can have that conversation and for them to figure themselves out where it's like, um, whenever I asked somebody their goal,

right, let's say their goal is to make a hundred thousand dollars. I'll give you a perfect example of a coaching client that I had, um, still have. And he's, uh, he's killing at this point, but he wasn't anywhere near as successful as he wanted to be. He wanted to make $100,000 this year. And I said, okay, why do you want to make $100,000 this year? I want to make $100,000 this year because I want to get custody of my kids. Okay. Actually, first, what I start off is that I want to spend more time with my kids. And I was like, okay, why? And you just ask why, why, why, why, why? Because it's always surface level, right? And if you know, with coaching people, you have to go like seven layers deep into the why before you figure out what it is.

Okay. I want, I want to spend more time with my kids. That's why I want to make a hundred thousand dollars. Okay. You might make a hundred thousand dollars doing that. Why do you want to spend more time with your kids? Well, actually I want to spend more time with my kids because you know, I don't have custody of them. Okay. So what do you want? Do you want custody of them? Yes. I want custody of them. Why do you want custody of them? I want custody of them because I think that their mom thinks she for sure has some mental issues, but she makes more money than I do. So they see her as more fit. Why do you want to have them stop living with her?

Well, I want to have them stop living with her because she lives in a bad part of town. How old are they? They're five years old and they're eight years old. They're 10 years old and they're eight years old. So what exactly is it that you want to get them out of that part of town? I want to get them out of that part of town because of the fact that blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And we keep going layers and layers and layers deeper. And we ended up finding out the reason at first it was, I want to make a hundred thousand dollars. Cause I want to be able to, to be the best father to,

you know, to, to take them on trips, to spend more time with them, to do these things. And eventually got to the point where I want to almost exact words. I want to make a hundred thousand dollars because I'm worried in five years, if I don't get my children out of the place that they're in, then my daughter's going to become pregnant and possibly, you know, become pregnant at 14, 15 years old, or my son will be shot. Right. And that's an extreme. Like most people don't have that extreme of a situation, but it's, it's so painful for him to think about that. He tries not to even think about it. He knows subconsciously probably that's connected to it, but he never actually physically brings his brain there all of the time. And so his problem was he wasn't making enough phone calls as a

salesperson, right? Not making enough phone calls as a salesperson. And you know, and the reason why is I say, so what's, what's the number one pain before I dive in that what's the number one pain in your business right now? What do you associate the most pain to? I associate the most pain to making phone calls. Okay. Why do you make, and so you dive into it and you go, okay, after going through this, what's more painful for you making a hundred phone calls in a day or having your son get killed because you didn't make a hundred phone calls in a day or having your son get killed because you didn't make a hundred phone calls in a day or having your daughter get pregnant at 14 or 15 years old because you didn't make a hundred phone calls a day. And he's like, it's, it's would a hundred percent be my kids. And I

was like, so how hard do you think it's going to be to make a hundred phone calls a day now? If you think about your kids consciously all of the time, every single time it's making phone calls. And it's like, I always, I always say this to people. And it's, it's literally just, if you can find out someone's goal and you can find out their, why their strong emotional attachment to why they want it. Not just, I want to make this money because I want to be a better father. I want to make this money because I need to get control, get custody. And I need to have my kids live with me because I'm worried about their safety, their lives. They might get caught up in drugs, all of these different things. live with me because I'm worried about their safety, their lives. They might get caught up in drugs, all of these different things. If you can find out their why, you can literally

basically break down all of the barriers or fears that someone has in front of them because they don't even matter anymore, right? It doesn't matter if they don't believe in themselves, they'll automatically do it. And so I always ask the question, which immediately shows people the exact example, right? And if I were to say, everybody listening, what's the chance? And you can answer this out loud yourself. What is the God honest chance of you making $1 million for the next 12 months, $1 million legally in the next 12 months? What's the percentage chances? And most people, when I do this on webinars, 0%, 0%, 1%, maybe 2% chance will pop up. And I say, what's the, what's the chance of you making $1 million legally this year? If you don't, your entire family and everyone that you've ever loved

dies. And everybody says a hundred percent, a hundred percent, a hundred percent. And I said, well, what changed? Did the goal change? No. Did the timeframe change? No. What changed is why you actually cared about the goal. And so, um, so I'm like, you either care or you don't care. And when you can find that strong emotional attachment, you don't need to make a million dollars. You don't need to do all that stuff, but it shows you how much you limit yourself on a daily basis. If within 30 seconds, you change your mindset from 0% to a hundred percent chance. It shows you why having a very strong, why a strong emotional attachment to your goal, whatever it is,

will just all of your limiting fears and beliefs don't even matter anymore at that point. Yeah. And so I think for people, that's, that's the main thing that, that really kind of connects with people right away. That's, that's shortened to the point where it's like, that shows you right there, how much we hold ourself back in, um, everything that we do. I've, I've heard this before until I had a big spiritual awakening of everything that we do is either based out of fear or it's based out of love. And that didn't make sense. And then I had this spiritual awakening and I was like, oh, I get it now. Like it makes sense. And for me, it was always like I first started and tried to make a lot of money out of fear of losing it all of, you know, what would happen if I went broke or my mom had something

happen to her. It was always fear, fear, fear, fear, fear. And I made a lot of money. I did all that, but it wasn't, I didn't start making a ton of money until I started doing everything out of love, which you could probably, you probably know exactly what I'm talking about. Once it became, how can I impact as many people's lives? It was like, the universe is like, Hey man, take all of this because you're helping so many people like this. It was showing me this is the right path to go down. And so, um, and so once I was able to kind of switch my mindset, um, on that is when my life really started to change. And I was able to, to really help people realize you only need to put your hand on a hot stove once in order to realize that you don't want to put your hand on a hot

stove. Right. So if you can make something that painful in your head, like it's game over. You can be, there's no such thing as fear of limiting beliefs anymore. What's the, what's the short activity? And maybe it's not a short activity, but if somebody's listening now and they're going, that all makes total sense. I love it. Pain, pleasure, set it with my goals. But they're thinking, I'm not sure where to go from here. Like when I get off this podcast, what do I do? How do I utilize this in my own life to like propel me forward to what I want? How would you give them those, those steps to do that? So I am the, a very strong believer in everything that you need to know, you already know.

Like the answer is already inside of you. You don't need to listen to me or us or anybody else. What you need to do is you need to get really good at journaling. And I used to think that journaling was like, dear diary, today I did this, this, this. But it's not. Journaling is really sitting down and becoming your own, just psychoanalyzing yourself. A psychoanalyst will 99% of the time only ask you questions

to have you come up with the answer, right? You as a coach know the best coach that you can be is to have somebody get the answer themselves. You might know the answer 20 minutes before, but you have to ask them the questions to get there because by telling them, it doesn't hardwire it in the brain. By them having to figure it out,

it hardwires it into their brain and makes them actually remember it and it make a sticking point. And so the biggest thing that I could tell people is this, is to get really good at sitting down every single morning for 15 minutes and just asking yourself questions. Because our brain, our brains are designed to do one thing and one thing only. It's to solve problems and keep us alive. Our brains are problem solving mechanisms. And so if you ask it questions, it will find the answer. That's the way it works. Like if I were to say, John, what color shirt am I wearing? You automatically already said white in your head because it just, your brain does that. That's what it does. And for those listening on the podcast, we're seeing each other. Otherwise,

that would be, he's not telepathic, so he could actually see me. Otherwise, that would be cool. Well, actually, Rob's not wearing a shirt, which is why I'm smiling so much. No pants. So the thing about it is if you want to get really good at self-awareness, you get really good at asking yourself questions. And so what I always tell people is this. Journaling is not sitting down and writing as if it's a diary.

Journaling is sitting down and asking yourself the questions that you need in order to come up with the answers that you need. And so if you're trying to figure out how to journal, this is what you do. Tonight, tomorrow morning, today, you take a pen and paper and you ask yourself this question. And it's a very vague question, but it's a very vague question for a reason. I ask myself this almost every single morning. What do I want? And that's it. It's super vague. And the reason why is because today my answer is going to be different than it is tomorrow because my brain

is always thinking about different things. What do I want? Maybe I just want to be happy. Maybe I just want to chill out for a day. Maybe I want to spend more time with my girlfriend. Maybe I want to call my mom. Maybe I want it, whatever it is, it's always different. But then if you want to dive in to your business, you, all of these things, what do I want in my life? What do I want in my relationships? What do I want out of my family? What do I want in my finances? What do I want in this, this, this, this? And you just ask yourself these questions. What do I want? Can be one question, or it can be, what do I want in blank? And you start to ask yourself these questions. And so to answer your question originally is what's the next step. Once you do this, you sit down with a pen and paper and you

ask yourself your questions. What is my, what do I want for this year? What is my main goal for 2017? Right. And then you say it is to do this. Why? Well, it's to do this because this is this. Why? And you just keep, it's like a little, it's like if you've ever listened to Louis CK where he talks about his daughter, she's like, why? Well, why? And he's like, it gets so weird and convoluted where he's like, some things are and some things are not. Like that's kind of what it gets to where it's just like you get so down because we like to like fill our brains with surface level crap that really doesn't matter. And when you start diving deeper and deeper into your brain and becoming more self-aware, you really figure out what's important to you. And you stop filling your mind with all of the

surface level fears and limiting beliefs and crap that you really don't need to. And so the way to do it, if you're trying to figure out your why's, you sit down at the pen and paper, you ask yourself what your main goal is. And then you ask yourself, why, why is it that goal? And then you go to the point where literally I'll have people do this and they'll send me an email. They'll send me a Facebook where I say, Rob, I literally just got done crying a lot of times. And that's how you know it's a strong emotional attachment is when it brings that feeling out of you where it's just like, I'm doing this for this reason. You're so much more driven. And so the way to kind of come to the answer is to sit down with a pen and paper

and get really good at asking yourself questions every single morning and then just forcing your brain to answer it. That's all that it really is. I love it. That's great, man. You know, it's funny because I have, well, you know, I have a seven-year-old and a two-year-old, but my seven-year-old doesn't do it as much as he used to. But when he was probably four or five, there was a lot of whys. And, you know, I remember trying, I committed as a dad to trying to play the game of not just answering because I said so, or because that's the way it is. Like I actually tried to answer. And I remember it became a challenge for me to try to deliver answers. What was interesting was that a lot of time it got to the point to where the only answer I felt I could give him was because that's the way that God created

it or God made it. But I was really trying to give an answer. Now, when I say God, I mean that which I don't understand. I'm saying some force beyond what I know that I could describe. And I think that actually was one of the first moments. And so this is a testament to your process, because my son was doing the journaling activity for me. And what I realized for myself was that that was my spiritual connection, was that underneath so much of what was coming up for me became a, because that's how God designed it. And ultimately what that meant was there are things out of my control, which then meant that my only, my own, what was in my control was my ability to risk, to respond to those things that were happening. Because it reminded me that I'm not like I'm

in control of how I respond, but I'm not in control of all this stuff that's going to happen today. So much out of my control and somebody that was attached to, and we're going to go full circle here and you'll relate to this. Somebody that was attached to certainty to some degree in my life, um, that was actually really important was to have certainty in the uncertainty of things. Yeah. And that I could release attachment to being responsible for all those things. Like I somehow caused all of that that happened in the world. But yet my real the cause was my what I what I would accept responsibility for is how I responded. Yeah. So there was this spiritual development for myself based on that question. So I think it's

really powerful, man. And I love that. I've, I fully endorse and support your concept of journaling. I think it's great. I think if you're driving right now to just contemplate that, you know, that's a driving meditation with your eyes open, just asking that question. Yeah. And, and also to be able to just sit with that question in your journal and journaling doesn't have to be beautifully written and not have to write it so that one day somebody will pick up your journal and be like, Oh my God, Rob was so smart. If anybody ever reads my journals, they're going to be like, Oh my God, I thought, I thought John was really smart, but it's just a lot of scribble. It's like bullet points and like random, like I'll stop us.

I'll be like, Oh, that says it doesn't make any sense. I'll just cross it out of scribble it's like bullet points and like random like i'll stop us i'll be like oh that says it doesn't make any sense i'll just cross it out and scribble it's not beautifully written i don't think my journal is going to make it to some big museum and be the example of beautiful journals no it's it's funny because what you said what you said kind of gave me goosebumps when you're talking about your son because i had a conversation this morning with a coaching client where we were talking about you know if you've ever read the book, the power of now by Eckhart Tolle, how I read it at like the perfect point in my life. And as I was relaying this message to her, it was like the perfect point of her life. And, um, and I was like, it's like the phrase when the, when the student is ready, the teacher

will come. And what's crazy for you is that your teacher was actually your son. If you really think about it, which is a pretty beautiful moment. If you really, you were learning more than he was from him. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and you know, what's amazing is that I remember the moment also, Rob, where I became, where I realized I was a teacher to my parents. That was a whole different moment in my life. And I don't think that happened until I was in my 30s when it finally hit me that my parents are just people.

They're just people. They're as messed up as anybody. And I had for so long realized that as a child, I put them in this category that somehow I never thought that I would really be their teacher. But I realized that part of my owning who I am and my identity and my place in the world was to realize that I could influence them in some big ways. Rob, this is all so much fun. We are going to talk in a half hour from now. We're literally going to get off the phone and go see each other. We're going to meet up in person.

But I got to figure out how to do these podcasts in person. I haven't figured that part out yet. So here we are. But, you know, let's fast forward to the end and let's let's imagine that you are many years down the road and you've lived a wonderful life of great fulfillment. What impact do you hope that you've made in the world? hope that you've made in the world? Um, so what, what drives me to wake up? So I have this big, huge dream of what it is and it's, it's progressed and it's gotten bigger and bigger. Originally what it was, was I realized that I was able to overcome my own pain and suffering that my, you know, the way I viewed my situation, my father, I was able to overcome that myself. And it took me 15 years to feel like I've, I've pretty much overcome it. Right. Um, and my goal was how can I teach people to do the same thing that I've done? If they need it, the message,

once again, the message will come to them. If it's the, if the teacher will come when the student is ready. Um, and so originally it was, how can I shorten somebody's suffering time so they can at least become the best version of their self? Um, what it's, it's become, and it's been about a year to two years of getting to this boiling point is I have this crazy vision and I don't, you know, it's, it's crazy, but it's going to happen. Um, I really like am, am driven to make make, not for my own personal gain in any sort of way, make myself as big as possible, my brain as big as possible, because I absolutely hate

seeing what is happening in Syria and all of those things. And the fact that countries bicker over invisible lines and that grownups cannot sit and talk to each other and have real conversations about why they shouldn't be killing innocent people anymore. And so my goal is to make my name have so much clout that I can get the president of the United States and the president of Russia to get together and be, I was about to drop an F bomb, freaking grownups and talk things out and realize that it's not it's not the only reason why we're at war is for money and all those Things and because of fear fear is the reason once again fear or love How can I do as much as I possibly can by the time I leave this planet? To get as much love into it as possible and to see if maybe I can make some sort of shift where people go

Hey, man Like why do why do people need to die? Why do people need to starve? Why do people need all of these different things? Why did these need to happen? Why can't we just all live together, make everything better, make our planet better, make each other better. And so it sounds like, uh, what do you want? It sounds like I'm a, I'm in a pageant. I'm in a pageant, right? I want to, I want world peace and solve hunger. Right. But in reality, like there's something inside of me that says like, that's why I'm investing so much time in everything that I possibly can into waking up and putting out as much content as possible, because I know that the more content I put out, the more that my brand builds and circulates.

And I don't want it just to, I'm not doing it for me anymore. I'm doing it for the fact that I hate reading the paper and seeing what's happening to innocent people and all these things and feeling like there's nothing that I can do. And so my job from now on, and if you want to talk about a why, why, a why that will get you up and push you in the morning. Like now I found mine, like it's, it's easy to wake up early in the morning when I'm this freaking driven to get something done. And so my main goal is by the time they leave this planet to do as much as I possibly can to make everybody live as, you know, as peaceful as they possibly can. And to get world leaders to be able to get in front of each other. And maybe it's 50 years

after I die and they go, Hey, remember like, what if, what if we just sit down and have a conversation instead of just being children? Um, and so that's, uh, that's my big lofty goal by the time that I die. Man, that's cool. You know, I didn't see that coming., and so that's, uh, that's my big lofty goal by the time that I die. Man, that's cool. You know, I didn't see that coming. And I think that's actually unique and, and cool that you would use the word peace as part of your big, um, mission. It's not something that I hear in this space a lot. That's not a word that gets used a bunch that because usually it's about accomplishment or progress or achievement of some type. But yet yours, uh, we find peace and I don't think peace in my heart, that's not a, a weak, uh, word. Um, although some might associate that as being

like, well, you could just have peace if you want it. You just let go and have peace. But I think that's a that's a that is a goal that's at the very, very top and of the list for some of the most respected people in my like people that I respect in my world, because without that, I don't think we're going to make it. And this isn't doom and gloom. I just look like I think that there's I think there's also a point of being like, just because I'm an optimist and just because I talk about what's possible, doesn't mean that I don't like want to say, look, you know, if you don't, um, protect yourself, you know, I wouldn't drive without a seatbelt because I think that I'm, I'm also realized that, you know, something had happened. If we don't do something

about our planet now, um, this may not be a happy ending. This may not end well. I'm 100% on the same page. And that's why I'm like, I could sit back passively and just see what happens. Or I could try to do everything that I possibly could and actively try to do whatever I can to stop it. So for instance, I love Tony Robbins. And I look at how big of a brand he is. And I say, man, he's pretty close where he could probably get two world leaders to sit in a room together and actually have like be the mediator between the two of them. Like maybe that's not on his bucket list of what he wants to do. That's cool. But I look at him and go, well, we're in the same space. Why the hell can't I do that? Right. I could get myself to that.

I don't want to be worth $500 million like he does, but I want to have a name brand that's big enough to go, Hey, this guy might like, maybe we should put these two and they have this one mediator come in and just chat it out and stop being little children and stuff. And so, um, I can see it now. I just had this vision of like, there's this, it's like a TV, uh, special. And I see these two world leaders and entering like,'re like and entering the room now is Rob Dial, who's going to be mediating. And I'm like, I remember he was on my show when he said that. And then there's then there's a big newsflash. It says Rob Dial saves the world. Dude, I like that. I think it's great. I think we all should feel in some way that we're responsible for saving the world.

And I don't think that's overly dramatic. I think that we need to have that. So thank you, man. I appreciate you doing your part is, uh, as I've shared and you probably heard me say this to many friends over the years is that I believe that you're shaping a world that my kids grow up in. And so thanks for what you're doing. Cause I don't think that when I see you succeed, Rob, it's not like, yeah, go Rob. Good for you. I'm glad you made more money or helped more people. But I'm like, man, thank you because you are saving my family in many ways because you're out there trying to share a positive message and be a source of positive information to the world and solutions. I appreciate you, man. I appreciate

you too, man. Thanks. Hey, so some fun questions just to wrap us up here today. Uh, front row foundation, this whole thing started about being in the front row of our favorite events. So let's figure out what yours is. Um, what live event, sporting event, concert, or anything, any live performance, what would you most want to experience front row? Something you've never done before. live performance what would you most want to experience front row something you've never done before oh man I would love I think front row if if we could get if we could get Pink Floyd back together and I row at Pink Floyd that would probably be the most insane experience of my life that's what I would go for.

That's awesome. Do you have a favorite Pink Floyd song? Yeah, my favorite song is Time. My favorite song in the world is Time by Pink Floyd. That was a song that really kind of got me through harder times when I was a kid. And that's my favorite song ever. That's awesome. If I'm saying the name of the song correctly,

there's a song called Coming Back to Life by Pink Floyd. And that's one of my favorites. I love Pink Floyd, man. Oh God, that would be, I never thought about that, but I was like, yeah, if they get back together, I'll spend whatever money I need to be there. That's for sure. That's awesome.

How about a recommendation, Rob, based on, well, I know you've read a ton of books and probably watched a bunch of films. Do you have like one resource that you could share with us? Book, documentary, anything, just something that you would point people to? So yeah, there's obviously like the main books that people say, like Think and Grow Rich and stuff. But I think one of the ones that allowed me to start being open, honest and vulnerable and say the stuff that I say now in front of thousands of people that listen to it is a book called Daring Greatly by Brene Brown. So good.

Yeah. She talks about how we all want to be vulnerable, but we all have to protect ourselves. And so we feel like if we're vulnerable, it shows us a sign of weakness. And what it is really is a sign of strength because someone looks at you and says, wow, that person's being so vulnerable. I wish that I could do that. And so Brene Brown was a life-changing book for me, Daring Greatly, because of that. I remember reading Daring Greatly and feeling like this is the book that I wanted to write. That for years you'd be like, I should write a book. And it's like when you read something and you're like, oh, this is what book that I wanted to write that for years you'd be like, I should write a book. And it's like, you know, when you write, like when you read something and you're like, Oh, this, this is what I should have said. I didn't, I didn't sit down to do it. I didn't

have the courage to step up and make this happen. But, but this is the one that like my heart was reflecting back going, yes, yes. Like she is speaking my language. I love, I love that book. Yes. Yes. Like she's speaking my language. I love, I love that book. Uh, Rob, Hey, listen, you know, uh, so much great wisdom here shared on the call. Loved our time. Really enjoy catching up with you. Pumped to go grab a juice in a moment with you and Lauren. Um, question for you as we leave here, which is, uh, where can people find more Rob? Where can they get the podcast? Where could they explore coaching with you? Where do they go? So mwfmotivation.com

stands for Monday, Wednesday, Friday. And then if somebody wants to do coaching with me, if they decide to, they can go to, they can send me an email, rob at mwfmotivation.com. And I've been doing this a lot. I've done this with other people where,

and it works perfectly with yours because I've done it before where I had a lady who signed up a group of people and I was like, well, I'm going to donate a certain amount of money for each person that signs up. She got a certain amount of people signed up and I donated over a thousand dollars to a charity that she wanted to. So if anybody signs up for my group coach, they're like, yeah, I want to go for it. Then let me know that it's from this podcast and then I will donate directly to the front row foundation on behalf of you. Awesome. And for everybody listening, who's part of our front row family, that won't be Rob's first donation. He's been a supporter, is a supporter. And we, we thank you, Rob, for, for what you've done for the charity. Did we leave anything out today, man? Is there anything else that, uh,

we want to cover that? I know, man, there's a lot of good stuff here. I don't, it's not lacking anything. I just want to make sure that if you, if you had any final wisdom for the group called action, a question, anything you want to leave anybody with the floor is yours. If you want to, you're the CEO of your own life. That's, that's the first one that changed my life. And so, you know, if don't get to the end of your life with regret, get to the end of your life, um, looking back, being proud of what you did. And so that's, that's the main thing I like to leave people with. That's awesome. Well guys, uh, if you want to live life in the front row, we always say we're going to point you in the direction of where we think people will

guide you and support you and help you to step up, to get engaged, to come alive, to be fully present within your lives. And one day, when you look back, being super proud of how you made the most of all of these moments that you're given, check out Rob's stuff, mwfmotivation.com. We'll link to everything in the show notes. Rob, thank you, buddy, so much. This was so awesome. And I'll see you in 20 minutes. All right, let's put on some pants and get out of here. All right, man. All right, I'll see you soon. We'll talk

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