The Mindset Mentor - The Power of Being a Morning Person

Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome, everybody, to the Mindset Mentor Podcast. I'm your host, Rob Dial. If you have not yet done so, hit that subscribe button so you never miss another podcast episode. Today, I'm sitting down with my good friend and buddy, amazing author, self-published, now going into the traditional route. His name's Hal Elrod. If you guys don't know Hal, I actually met back in 2006. He was on stage and was at a Cutco conference and talked about how he was a coach. And I was like, hey, I need a coach. So I hired him and his best friend, John Berghoff, in 2006 to be my coaches. And throughout the process, he started a podcast. He wrote a book

Starting point is 00:00:45 and he wrote this book called The Miracle Morning, which you've probably heard of before. This is, in all honesty, probably the book that started everyone talking about having a morning routine about 10 or 11 years ago. And it's kind of crazy how I'll tell you a story about this. I remember when it first came out. I remember your first book and I read your first book. And then I remember when this book came out and it seemed like it was like gaining some traction and you were pushing it and you were pushing, you're pushing it. And then I was like two or three years later, I was like, man, he's still pushing this book. Like, is it, is it, is it selling? Like what's going on with it? But I think what happened is you probably saw what you saw, you were on stage. You saw people coming up to you.

Starting point is 00:01:25 You saw the grassroots of how it was moving. And so you've wrote this book now 10 years ago. And you've basically, as you told me, almost rewrote the entire book with the same shell. So it was originally 150 pages. It's now around 220 pages. And the cool thing about it is when you wrote the book 10 years ago, it was when you were kind of new at Miracle Morning. And now it's like you have 10 years of actually more than 10 years of you doing it personally. 15 years of me doing it and 11 years of other people doing it.

Starting point is 00:01:53 And it's not bullshit, which is what I love about it. It's not like you're one of the people who like says do this and you don't do it. I've been to a Dave Matthews concert with you and your wife and halfway through Dave Matthews, Ursula, your wife goes, we got to leave miracle morning. So it's actually something that you really truly do. And it's not like you just preach it and don't follow through on it. So what made you decide to, to rewrite the book, add more to it and, you know, now have these stories of seeing it change people's lives. Why is now the time to do this after selling, you know, 2 million copies on your own? Yeah. Yeah. It's so I've, when, when I was writing the miracle morning and to your point, like I started doing the miracle morning in 2008, I started sharing

Starting point is 00:02:33 with my coaching clients and like the light bulb went off after a few months. I'm like, this is changing people's lives. And most of them were complaining that like, I'm not a morning person. How am I? I know, I know. Neither was I try it. And then what ended up happening is the feedback is like, Oh my gosh, it's changing my life. And I went, if it's changing their life and they weren't quote unquote morning people and it's changed my life and I wasn't a morning person, this could change the world, right? This could change anybody's life. And I felt a sense of responsibility.

Starting point is 00:02:57 Like I have to share this. Right. And so I have to write a book. And I'm a slow writer. Took me three years to write The Miracle Morning. Nobody knew I was. I self-published it right 2012. But when I went during that process, the big book, the most famous book at that time was Four Hour Workweek by Tim Ferriss. And two years after he wrote that

Starting point is 00:03:15 book, which I loved, right? I read it. I reread it. I talked about it. I shared it. He wrote the Four Hour Workweek updated and expanded edition. And so even though I was literally writing the original edition, I was like, oh, this is so interesting. Maybe one day in the future, I'll write an updated edition of this book I'm currently writing. And there's two things. Number one is I always say the miracle morning elevates your consciousness as a human being. Like it helps you be more aware and intentional about how your thoughts, your words, and your actions are impacting your life and the lives of every person that you, you touch, you know, friends, family, colleagues, whatever, right? Whoever you're influencing through your interactions, you're becoming a

Starting point is 00:03:53 better version of yourself from the miracle morning practice. And so in the last 15 years of doing the miracle morning and 11 years since the book published, I would hope that my consciousness is elevated. I'm much more aware and intentional. And I've been interacting with, you know, millions of, I mean, not literally millions, but there's millions of miracle morning practitioners. And I've interacted with, you know, tens of thousands of them over the last decade. And I've learned so much, not only in the way my own practice has evolved, but from members of the community, right? Like, oh, that's a brilliant idea.

Starting point is 00:04:23 That's great. And I've gone you know to meditation retreats and really deepened like when i wrote the book it was very much like hey if you're new to meditation and affirmations i'm kind of new but i'm like a level above if you will yeah here's how you do them and now it's like oh you know i didn't know what i didn't know back then been doing it for 15 years for 15 years. For 15 years. And so, um, so yeah, so this book I literally went through and I rewrote every page from a higher level of consciousness, if you will. Right. Um, and I added over 70 pages of brand new content, including two of the biggest requests have always been, or the one of the biggest requests is always

Starting point is 00:04:59 when you can do the miracle evening, like what's your miracle evening. And I used to be embarrassed. Like I didn't have much of an evening ritual. And then I kind of realized studying that, but wait, how you end the day might be almost as important as how you begin the day. And so the miracle evening is a, you know, a 20 plus page chapter now. And then the book I've had on my heart the last two years that I've been working on as I've been rewriting this is called the miracle life. years that I've been working on as I've been rewriting this is called the miracle life. And that book, I didn't want to wait to give that content to the world. So there's a 20 plus page chapter called the miracle life. And that's really about a paradigm for personal fulfillment, a path to inner freedom. Like, look, we've all been blessed with one life. I think at the end

Starting point is 00:05:41 of our lives, we're going to look back and go, man, I wasted so much energy being stressed, one life, I think at the end of our lives, we're going to look back and go, man, I wasted so much energy being stressed, afraid, depressed, worrying about stuff that just life happened. Why didn't I enjoy every moment of that one life I was blessed to live? And that's what the miracle life is. That's awesome. Yeah, that's, it's really interesting because it's like, it's, it's such like, if somebody hasn't read the miracle morning, I've, I, it's funny. Cause I feel like it's just, it's huge. And like everybody's read it. And then you look and it's like 2 million is a lot, but there's so many people that haven't read it. There's a lot of people that haven't. And so the,

Starting point is 00:06:21 the thing about it is it's, it's crazy because it's such an anomaly to sell, you know, a hundred thousand copies self-published to do a million copies self-published is even crazier, but to do 2 million shows you like, there's something about this book that's connected with people that's changed people's lives. And that's, what's so awesome about the whole thing is that like, I don't know if you ever sat back and been like, Holy shit, 2 million copies self-publish is like one of the rarest things that you could possibly do as far as an accomplishment. So that's a huge thing. But, and I want you to realize that is like, it's, it's amazing that you have done that. Good. Thank you. Thank you for sure. But the, I want, what I really want

Starting point is 00:06:59 to know about is like, what's the difference in like, okay, so you went through and there was Hal who wrote it and you were how old when you first wrote it? Yeah. 27, 28 when I started. And so you're how old now? 44. So it's like, okay. Anybody out there is like, if you wrote a book at 26, 27, 28, you have that knowledge that's there, but an extra 15 years, 16 years of knowledge and wisdom that you've gotten from it. What do you feel are some of the biggest changes that you, or adjustments that you made to the book that's different where you read it and you're like, man, this is good, but I'm so young and I'm so there's, there's like parts of it where you're probably like, oh man, they're cringeworthy, right? Like it's kind of like when you hear your, your, your voice, like on video from a few years ago, you're like, oh my

Starting point is 00:07:40 God, turn that off. I can't, I sound so nasally. When I reread my book, I'm like, what is this? I was a, well, how immature, this is so cheesy. Like, so I've wondered, that's another selfish reason I've wanted to rewrite it for a long time is when I read it, I'm like, I'm like rolling my eyes. I'm like, how do people take this seriously? How is this sold? Two million copies? Like literally.

Starting point is 00:08:01 Why are people buying this? I mean, literally I'm like embarrassed and I'm like, I want to rewrite this right now. And luckily, well, here's, what's interesting as a self-published author, one of the benefits is I've uploaded a new version of the book, like not a completely updated, but I've gone through and I have like, cause I read, you know, there's 32,000 reviews on Amazon now. I haven't read all of them, but I have read many thousands and I always wanted to look like I'd read not just the five star to be like, Oh, people like it. But I read the one, the two, the three star almost more so and go, what are the common themes where I, I, I, I, I didn't quite

Starting point is 00:08:36 hit the mark or I'm, I'm, you know, I was tone deaf in these areas. And so over the last 11 years, I've updated, I think three times where early on, like after a year or two, I was like, OK, multiple people are saying this same thing. And so I would go in and I would change those parts and then I'd upload a new PDF to Amazon and there'd be a new book. Right. So I was able to slightly do that over the years. But the now it was literally going through. the, uh, now it was literally going through every, I took about, took about eight months for me to, um, rewrite like eight months of writing every day as if it were a new book to rewrite it. And then my editor, who was also the CEO and founder of Ben Bella, the, my publisher, I mean, he, he was like, I want this book to be the best it can be. So how I don't usually do this. He's like, I'm actually going to be your editor. I was like that's amazing and he was amazing and um and and so

Starting point is 00:09:28 what was great is he would actually go a lot of some of the stuff i rewrote he was like he actually would say he's like okay so this part way better but you you went too far off on the rewrite right like i'm i think you should change this back to how it was so right there's some parts for sure that like like the way i told a story is that you told it better and initially um yeah there's obviously some magic that's there that you don't want to take the magic out of it and that was actually the a fear too right it's like okay this book i i it it works yeah right if it's not fixed don't bro don't fuck that's actually don't fuck it up literally i labeled this is funny so a little bonus tip for people um when i when i the the word document the

Starting point is 00:10:06 microsoft word document the manuscript that i was rewriting i labeled it if it's not broken don't tmm for them you're recording if it's not broken don't fix it yeah like literally just remind me don't change too much but i'll give you an example so when i started when i wrote that meditation was new to me when i wrote the first version, I've developed this meditation that I call emotional optimization meditation. I don't know if I made it up or it's in my subconscious from someone else. I think I made it up, but, but it's rather than just clearing your mind,

Starting point is 00:10:34 it's actually identifying what's the optimal mental and emotional state that I need to be in today that would serve today. And maybe if it's on the weekends with your kids, it's, I need to be playful. Right. Or maybe if you had a fight with your spouse, it's, I need to be at a pace of like love and forgiveness or on an average day, what you would teach is like, I need to be focused

Starting point is 00:10:51 today. Right. For sure. And so I identify what's the number one mental, emotional state that I need to embody today. And then I use different techniques to get into that state. Then I set my meditation timer and I, I like the word marinate. Like I meditate or marinate in that state. So I'm programming my central nervous system, my subconscious to embody it. And then now I can show up at my best for the people I love, the people

Starting point is 00:11:15 that I lead in that state, whether it's for my kids or my wife or my clients or whatever. Right. So, so that's an example. Like there's a detailed in-depth part of that. Another like, you're like a chicken in a plastic bag. You're just marinating, marinating during that meditation, huh? That's what you're doing. That's it. That's awesome. I love that. I love that idea. So you were, you were continuing. I didn't want to interrupt you, but that's the way I think about it, where it's actually like, I hear so many times that people are like, I struggle with meditation. I struggle with meditation. I struggle with meditation. But if you think about it, instead of like, I'm going to turn my brain off, it's like,

Starting point is 00:11:44 I'm going to use my brain to think about how I emotionally want to feel throughout the day. And just like dropping a chicken inside of some lemon pepper inside of a bag, I'm just going to marinate in that for the next 15 minutes. That's it. So, so, okay. So you're continuing about, about how you use it. Yeah. And by the way, feel free. I'm long-winded. So you interrupt anytime that you want. No worries. Um, so yeah, the other one is affirmations. Affirmations is my favorite. And in fact, let me back up for anybody new to the Miracle Morning. So the Miracle Morning is made up of six practices, right?

Starting point is 00:12:11 You know this, but in case anyone doesn't. So it's silence. So by the way, the six practices are the SAVERS, the acronym S-A-V-E-R-S. Silence, affirmations, visualization, exercise, reading, and scribing. And if you actually, if you look at at those those are the six most timeless proven personal development practices in the history of mankind like that you know that the world's most successful people from olympian olympic athletes to you know multi-millionaire entrepreneurs to you name it that they have sworn by for centuries right i didn't invent any of them, but according to Robert Kiyosaki,

Starting point is 00:12:45 he said, Hal, before the savers, no successful person I'm aware of did all six of these. They might've been one or two, maybe three. He said, but the way you packaged them and made it so easy to go through and do all six of the most timeless practices. But affirmations is my favorite of the practices. Like whenever somebody's like,

Starting point is 00:13:04 do you have a favorite of the savers? I always joke, it's like politically correct to be like, no, they're all equally important. You need all of them. They're just like my children. Yeah. I love them all equally. I love them all equally. But I'm like, honestly, it's affirmations because the way affirmations have been taught

Starting point is 00:13:16 for maybe decades by self-help, they're corny. It's one of two problems. Either we're taught to tell ourselves something we wish were true that's not true to us right like i am a millionaire right if you're struggling financially you're like i am financially free and your bullshit meter's going off the whole time yeah your subconscious like dude you're lying what do you do you're lying right and now you're creating an unnecessary internal conflict as if we don't have enough of them the second problem is we're taught to use this flowery passive language yeah that makes us better feel better in the moment because it's like this imaginary everything's going to get better great example i am a money magnet right i hate that

Starting point is 00:13:53 money flows to me effortlessly and in abundance right yeah and so i teach affirmations in this very specific tangible measurable way so in that book it's, it's like a masterclass affirmations workshop because the original book, I thought I taught it well enough, but it wasn't deep enough where people are like, I don't get like, how do I get affirmations are hard for me. And I'm like, so again, an example of like, I was able to, it's like, there's like 17 pages, I think just on affirmations. Don't quote me. I'm making that up, but it's like, it's, it's this really long, you know, and I give examples. And then, yeah, so.

Starting point is 00:14:28 That's awesome. So then, so it's S-A-V-E-R-S. So in the last S is scribe, which stands for journaling. Scribing, journaling. Yeah, and so it makes sense. So it wasn't saver J. It was originally, literally when I was writing the book, it was saver plus J. And that bothered me. And I was telling my wife one day, writing the book, it was saver plus J. And that bothered

Starting point is 00:14:45 me. And I was telling my wife one day, I remember the moment I met her in the hallway. She goes, you look frustrated. What's up? I'm like, I've got this acronym, but it's like not really a complete acronym. And it's kind of, and she goes, why don't you get a thesaurus and see if there's another word for journaling? And it was scribing. And I'm like, that's amazing. Yeah. So the thing that I like about it though is, is, and that's kind of what you'm like, that's amazing. Yeah. So the thing that I like about it though, is, is, and that's kind of what you said is that there's six practices that you use. And these are six practices that if anybody implemented any of them into their life, it would start to work with them. So it's like silence, sitting there in silence and meditating,

Starting point is 00:15:18 doing affirmations, doing visualization, doing exercises, doing reading, doing journaling, all of those things are going to help you in some sort of way. But what you've kind of done is said, Hey, if you have, if you wake up an hour early and there's six of them, take 10 minutes each and just do each one of them or 30 minutes early, do five minutes each or six minutes early and do one six minute miracle morning. Literally like that's a whole chapter in the book on. Yeah. You can, you can do it at any point in time. What's the importance I'm curious of doing all of them at whole chapter in the book on, yeah, you can get it done. Yeah, so you can do it at any point in time. What's the importance, I'm curious, of doing all of them at one time in the morning versus just saying, well, I'm going to pick two or three of them? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:15:50 I'm going to answer that question and another question that is kind of could be wrapped into it, which is a lot of people say, okay, the savers, I'm sold. Like doing the six most timeless personal, sure. But why in the morning? Can I do them? I'm not a morning person. You can do them in the afternoon or the evening, right? Sure. But why in the morning? Can I do it? I'm not a morning person in the afternoon or the evening. Right. And and here's the answer is they'll benefit you in the afternoon or in the evening. But when you do them first thing in the morning, there's immediate benefits.

Starting point is 00:16:14 Right. When you meditate, it lowers your cortisol levels. There's over 1400 scientific studies that prove the benefits of meditation. In fact, that was like 10 years ago. There's probably 10 times that many studies. Right. That was like 10 years ago. There's probably 10 times that many studies, right? So if you wait to meditate until the evening, you missed out on lowering your cortisol levels and gaining mental clarity, right? And so when you do affirmations, they focus your mindset on what you're committed to, what you're capable of, what you're going to do to get where you want to go.

Starting point is 00:16:39 That directs your focus for the day. If you wait till the evening, you've missed out. If you exercise in the morning, right? More energy. So all of the savers benefit you immediately. And then there's a lasting benefit after. So when you start your day with a miracle morning, you put yourself in a peak physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual state to win the day.

Starting point is 00:17:00 And so that's why first thing in the morning. So that's the big picture answer. And then in terms of doing some in the morning, some later, I think that's fine. Like the beauty of the miracle morning, there's a whole chapter toward the end of the book on customizing the miracle morning to achieve your goals. And if you, you know, if you just wake up and do one of the savers, that's still a miracle morning, right? You're missing out on the benefits of the others. But, um, but yeah, so I don't think there's a problem with doing some in the morning. of the others. But, um, but yeah, so I don't think there's a problem with doing some in the morning. What I always, what I always share in the book at the, it ends with a 30 day challenge or now it's a 30 day journey because I say in the new book, I'm like, we have enough challenges. Let's, let's go on a journey together. Right. Um, but I say just do all six and for the 30 day challenge or 30 day journey. And then you'll know, you won't know what you don't know if you don't do all six in the morning and then you might be like i actually want to do this the exercise

Starting point is 00:17:49 first like for me now i start every morning with 60 seconds of jumping jacks just because it gets the blood flowing to my brain now i'm thinking clear my my brain's turned on um and then i do a full workout at the end of the miracle morning i go out to the gym my gym and you know and i work out um but but yeah so it's like doing all of them in the morning. Then you'll know which ones benefit you the most, which ones you might go, you know what, I'm actually going to move this one to after lunch where I'm going to double it up and I'll do a lot of people say they'll do savers in the morning and they'll do like a mini savers later in the day or in the evening. So yeah. What's some of, you know, when you first wrote the book, obviously it was like

Starting point is 00:18:23 you had a little bit of experience with some of your coaching clients and that was like a small sample size, but now you have this massive sample size. You have 38,000 reviews or whatever it is that came in, 2 million copies sold. I'm sure you get emails all the time. There's people that download your app. There's all of this. What are some of the stories that were just like, holy shit, I can't believe this actually happened from someone just waking up and implementing savers into their day. Yeah. Um, and there's so many, uh, right. And then I just went through, I went through, you know, to put them all the new ones in the book. Um, but they're really profound. And, and this is, let me say this when you said, man, it's been like three years,

Starting point is 00:18:57 how still talking about miracle morning. Yeah. This is why, because I was still reading every new Amazon review that came in. It's like, oh my gosh, I was depressed for the last six months. I read this book. I'm on day 14 of my 30 day challenge. I'm not depressed anymore. This has changed my life. And I'm like, how could I not keep talking about this and sharing it with as many people as I can? So I really think this is my life's work.

Starting point is 00:19:19 I've written other books and such. So here's some of the stories. So Mike Eaton, and for those that don't know, there is a miracle morning movie, right? There's a documentary. Uh, and so we featured some of the stories in that movie. One of them was Mike Eaton. Mike Eaton had been obese his entire life, uh, made fun of in high school. Um, and, uh, and then, and he had read, he had tried diets and nothing worked friends like, Hey, read the miracle morning, not to lose weight, but just read the miracle morning, the miracle morning. When he applied all the savers, he created affirmations.

Starting point is 00:19:45 Like, I want to weigh this much. I'm committed to do these things so that I can lose the weight. You know, and then, right, he visualized himself, all of the things within, it's been a long time since I, I don't want to get the numbers wrong. But it's something along the lines of within his first two months of doing the Miracle Morning, he lost something like 50 pounds. And now he's down like 80 pounds from like 330, I think, 250. Right. And he credits it's cause of the miracle morning. So that's something where I wouldn't imagine losing weight. Um, another, uh, another guy who's in the movie, Keith Minnick, and he's in the book, Keith, uh, his son died at three hours old, right? So they had a child born and the child died three hours later and him and his wife

Starting point is 00:20:26 both went into a deep depression he was the i believe he was the director of business development at turner home broadcasting at the time and he said he you know basically he was disenfranchised with his work because he's like what's the point why are we even doing this why should i live what it doesn't matter um and i think it was like a year of that and he had read books on grief right someone said hey try this thing, The Miracle Morning, it's changing my life, and in Keith's own words in the book, he talks about his very first miracle morning,

Starting point is 00:20:53 he was like, oh, I'm in control of the way that I feel. I don't have to be depressed anymore over my son's death. I'm not depressed anymore. Like he goes, it didn't take months of the miracle morning. It was the first miracle morning where he completely shifted his paradigm around the way he was experiencing the death of his son. Um, and you know, and, and then, you know, he talked about 10 years later, he still does the miracle morning every single day. And he talked about how it's evolved and he's evolved. And, you know, and it was like the best example of like how the miracle morning can change your

Starting point is 00:21:29 life in one day and continue to be changing your life a decade later. Right. And there's tons of stories of people that like, they finally overcame their procrastination and wrote that book that was on their mind. The miracle morning helped them start that business and help them, you know, run a marathon. I mean, it's just, you name it here. Let me say this. The way to put it is this, whatever your, whatever you want to accomplish in your life, when you apply the savers, the miracle morning, every morning, you become the person that you need to be to accomplish that thing. Whether it's losing weight, making money, transforming your marriage, you know, it's really universal. Yeah. I mean, it comes down to like, if we just make it real basic, it's just being intentional with your life. And so many people

Starting point is 00:22:07 are just so unintentional and they just wake up. And I did this for years, like for years and years and years, I woke up and when I still work for someone else and I had to drive into an office, I'd wake up, you know, 15 minutes before I had to leave. I jumped in the shower real quick on the way there. I'd stop at taco Cabana and I get some breakfast tacos and coffee. And then I roll into there and I'd been up for like 30 minutes. And it was just like, but it was just, it was just as my ex first girlfriend, I ever had her dad used to always say to me, she used to always say it's same shit, different toilet is all that it was. Right. It's just like every day felt exactly the same. And just like I could, I could take yesterday and I could place it on tomorrow and all of it felt exactly the same. And I like I could, I could take yesterday and I could place it on tomorrow

Starting point is 00:22:45 and all of it felt exactly the same. And I think the key to it is that you decide that you're going to first off, wake up earlier, which is not always easy, you know, or go to bed earlier so that you could do it. And it's easier to stay inside of your bed, but it's, it's literally like from the moment your alarm clock goes off, you go, I'm going to choose me today. Yeah. And so many people have not done that. I was interviewed yesterday on a guy's podcast who It's literally like from the moment your alarm clock goes off, you go, I'm going to choose me today. And so many people have not done that. I was interviewed yesterday on a guy's podcast who said it took him 50 years to wake up. But he was in depression and all of this stuff. And it's like at some point he just went, you know what, I'm going to choose me.

Starting point is 00:23:16 And that's kind of what's important about it. It's like, all right, it's going to be important for me to wake up in the morning and for me to choose me and actually start to put some action to it. And instead of being reactive to the world, I'm going to be proactive. I'm actually start to put some intention into my life. Yeah. Yeah, it is. It's how you start your day. This was Steve Pavlina, uh, uh, who wrote the book, personal development for smart people. He said, how you start your day sets the tone, the context and the direction of the day you're able to create for sure. You know, and that's it. Yeah. So then with this, I'm curious with your children, because what we were talking about and what I do want to talk

Starting point is 00:23:50 about is how this is going into school. So do your children do this with you? How old are your kids, first off, to people who don't know your children? How old are they and do they do the miracle morning with you? Have they resisted it? What does that look like? Yeah. My daughter is 14, They, they, my daughter is 14 going on 20, 25. Um, and, uh, my son is about to turn 11, right? So 14 and 11. And, uh, they do not do the miracle morning. Uh, we used to do the miracle morning when they were younger. Uh, and my daughter, as she became a teenager was like, I don't do this anymore, dad.

Starting point is 00:24:17 And, uh, and so, uh, it is interesting being a parent and seeing the phases, right? Where I've talked to other parents where there are times where your child, you're like, whoa, who are you? Like, this isn't the person I've been raising. And you start to feel like they're slipping away. And then they come back. You know, like, it's really phases. And I remember seeing that when my daughter was, like, I don't know, five, seven years old, I think. And she, like, was this, like, all of a sudden went from being a sweet girl to, like, just attitude and this and that.

Starting point is 00:24:44 I'm like, Sophie. And, like, nothing this like, all of a sudden when I'm being a sweet girl to like, just attitude and this and that, I'm like, Sophie and like, and, and nothing got through to her. And then it, it, it lasted for like a few weeks or a month. Yeah. And then she was being nice again. And I was like, you're so sweet. I was like, you, you know, there was a period there for a few weeks where you were really, she's like, dad, that Sophia is gone and she is never coming back.

Starting point is 00:24:59 And she has for sure come back, but you learn like she, she's returned. She returns and then she goes, yeah, it's interesting. But, but so, yeah, so they, we've done the miracle morning through phases. I've tried to get my daughter to write the miracle morning for teens, the miracle morning for kids. And it's like, she will, then she won't. So it is funny. So when I, people are like, you know, how do the miracle morning with kids?

Starting point is 00:25:21 I'm like, when you figure that out, I'm like, let me know. Cause I've actually struggled. Now, I will say, there are many parents that it's almost embarrassing for you to be like, I'm not the parent that figured it out. Well, no. The good thing about it, though, before you say it is like, because first off, the good thing that I like about it is that you're not forcing it onto your children, which means they're most likely going to come back around to it and enjoy it because you're not forcing

Starting point is 00:25:42 it onto them, right? Which is the best part. So you can finish what you're saying, but there's no reason to be like, Oh my God, I'm the miracle morning that my children should be like masters at this miracle morning. It's also the closer you are. It's like, dad's telling us to do this, right? Yeah. My wife doesn't listen to anything that I say. I have people that tune in and listen to this. And it's the same with my wife. People go, how do you get your wife to do the miracle morning or your spouse? I'm like, let me know when you figure that out. We've done probably eight miracle mornings together in our

Starting point is 00:26:03 entire life. There have been times where she's like, I'm going to, because when I was on Robert Kiyosaki's podcast years ago, him and his wife do the Miracle Morning and he said, we grow close, it helps us grow closer so that we don't grow apart. Oh my God. And I sent that clip to my wife and I'm like, hey, don't you want to grow closer so we don't grow apart? And then she's like, yes, let's do Miracle Morning. And that lasted for like, you know, a week or whatever.

Starting point is 00:26:24 And then she's like, I just, you know and that lasted for like you know a week or whatever and then she's like i just you know so but we're so close right she's like i don't want to do your miracle morning thing yeah um anyway but uh but but i will say this uh there is a book called the miracle morning for parents and families that i co-authored with mike and lindsey mccarthy and i caught her both awesome people i know both of them awesome people they came up to me at an event and she's like hey, hey, my son Tyler, and I think he was six at the time, and this was, I don't even know, he's probably 13, 14 now. She said, we do the Miracle Morning with our kids every day, and he wanted to share his affirmations with you.

Starting point is 00:26:54 And I'm like, okay. And he comes up, and he reads me his affirmations, and they were in alphabetical order. I was like, that's amazing. And I start talking. I'm like, how did you get him to do the Miracle Morning? So they have an amazing system, and they do the Miracle Morning So there, I mean, so they have an amazing system and they do the miracle morning with their kids every day. And they have for like seven years, you know?

Starting point is 00:27:09 So if you want to learn how to do it, um, you know, miracle morning for parents and families. Yeah. Yeah. That's good. I mean, the thing about it, man, is like, I see too many people, uh, it's the too many people try to push things onto their children. The more that you push something onto somebody, the more they're going to resist it.

Starting point is 00:27:24 You know, that was the thing I realized with, with my wife, when we first started dating is I was like, so into personal development. And then I had this podcast and I was like, I'd buy her books and I'd be like, let's go to a conference. And she's like, no, I don't really want to. And then eventually after a few years, I was like, okay, she's just not into it. No big deal. I guess this is my thing. Nope. That's fine. Like some people like basketball. Some people like football. It's like, it's just the way that is. And so what was interesting though, is then I stopped trying to push it. And then lo and behold, she came back around. She started doing her own routines. And so now we meditate every single

Starting point is 00:27:55 morning. We have our own routines and stuff that we do. And so it's, and now she's actually a coach, which is like crazy because she wasn't in personal development all the first few years. And so I watch her on Instagram and she makes videos on Instagram. And I'm like, man, that was really good. You know? And so I think it's, it's good when you don't force it onto people, um, because different strokes for different folks. But the thing is like, if somebody is listening to this and they're like, man, I, I've really told myself cause the amount of times that I've heard people say,

Starting point is 00:28:20 I'm going to, I've, I've been telling myself for six months, I'm going to start a morning routine and sell myself. I want to do a morning routine, but I'm start a morning routine I'm going to finally wake up early that's one of my things if it's something that resonates with you buy the Miracle Morning book read it, take what you want from it try it out and as you said do it for 30 days

Starting point is 00:28:36 go on a 30 day journey because you can do anything for 30 days and if you just try it for 30 days and it works for you continue to keep doing it if you hate it, which you won't, but if you hate it, don't do it again. But it's like, I think what people need to do is just try it and say, okay, I could do anything for 30 days. And if it's really important for me to change my life, why don't I just try it? Well, and I'll tell you two things.

Starting point is 00:28:55 One is people always ask, like, what if I'm not a morning person, right? Or what do you say to someone that says I'm not a morning person? I say join the club. We consistently, every time we send out a survey to the Miracle Morning community, which is, you know, hundreds of thousands of people that are on the email list, they, and we always ask before Miracle Morning, before you read the book, were you a morning person? Did you consider yourself a morning person or not? And it consistently, it's on average, 72% of Miracle Morning practitioners say, I was not a morning person. And I never thought I could be one before I read the book. And when I wrote the book, that was my like number one driving, like guiding principles.

Starting point is 00:29:30 How do I get someone from like, I've never been a morning person and I don't even want to be one because I don't want to wake up early to I'm doing the miracle morning for the rest of my life. Right. And so I think that is the book literally hold someone's hand both like psych the psychology of it like how do you shift that mindset and overcome the limiting belief go i'm not a morning person i've tried it didn't work and logistically how do you set yourself up for success like there's a whole chapter in the book on it's called the snooze proof five-step wake-up strategy right which is like how do you overcome being you know a lifetime snoozeaholic is what i call it right um and one of those five tips

Starting point is 00:30:05 is you move your alarm clock across the room because if, when the alarm goes off, if you can reach over and turn it off while you're still, you know, like 70% asleep, right. And just fall right back asleep. You're going to do it. Even for me, if I fall asleep at a hotel room and I have the alarm next to the, I will snooze like five, you know, and I don't even know I'm doing it. Right. And that's me and um and uh but if the alarm clock if you have to actually get out of bed and walk into your bathroom and turn it up you're awake now you're up right and so that's like one of the five you know steps or whatever but like that alone is a total game changer for sure right so yeah um it's funny

Starting point is 00:30:41 because uh are you familiar with who rick rubin Yeah. So he's like one of the most people who don't know out there. He's like the the best music producer that's ever existed. You know, he's also now one of the best. His book is amazing, too. And so he but he was known for being a night owl. Like he he told himself for years, he's like, well, I'm just a night owl. And, you know, he produced music until like three o'clock in the morning. Then he'd go to sleep and he'd wake up at noon. Yeah. And he thought for years he was just like, I'm a night owl. That's just who night owl. And, you know, he produced music until like three o'clock in the morning. Then he'd go to sleep and he'd wake up at noon. And he thought for years, he was just like, I'm a night owl. That's just who I am. And then one day he's like, what if I just decided to stop

Starting point is 00:31:12 being a night owl and just try to go to bed early? And he realized he wasn't actually a night owl. It was just that his circadian rhythms were just set incorrectly. And he just restarted it by deciding to be a morning person. So it's like everyone who's, who stays up late is like, I'm just a night owl. And I think it's like, or you could stop having coffee at five o'clock PM and maybe you'd fall asleep earlier. Yeah. And starting your Netflix at 11 PM. Yeah. So I think it's an important aspect of it, of like, try it out and see if you are still a night owl after 30 days. Yeah. Well, Pat Flynn, um, uh, who hosts smart passive income podcasts, right. I've always loved Pat from afar. And I reached

Starting point is 00:31:46 out to him once I was in the miracle morning came out. I'm like, Hey Pat, I'm a huge fan. I'd love to be on your podcast. And he's like, sorry, we're not taking any guests. I'm like, okay. And then I don't know, maybe a year or so later he reached out and he was like, Hey, I keep hearing about miracle morning, miracle morning, miracle morning. You got to do miracle morning. He's like, so I'd love to have you on the show now. And I was like, yeah, that's amazing. And when I got on the show, I think it was before we started recording. It might've been when we were recording, but I think it was before. Um, but anyway, he said, how, um, I'm not, I'm not a morning person. I'm, I, you know, I, I'm a night owl. And he said, I get my best work done at night. And he said,

Starting point is 00:32:20 I wake up in the morning when I, my alarm clock my kiddos, when they come in and start going, daddy, daddy, daddy, that's when I wake up. So in my mind, I'm like, how am I going to convince this guy that has the most heartfelt alarm clock? Right? Like, no, no, no, you shouldn't wake up by your children. You should wake up before them and just eliminate that from your life. Yeah. With an annoying sound that startles you awake. Not to mention, you know, he's one of the most, I mean, he's as successful as he could be. He's running marathons. He's got a great family.

Starting point is 00:32:47 He's a great dad. He's making, you know, seven figures. I'm like, how am I going to convince him to do Miracle Morning? Right. So I talked to him about what we've talked about today, right? And by the end of the episode, he's like, Hal, you've convinced me that I might be missing out on the next level of productivity by not starting my day with the savers. He's like so i'm committing right now to you and my audience i will do the 30-day challenge i will document it

Starting point is 00:33:10 on like social media like come with me everybody and uh and and we'll see what happens and i was like amazing right and uh you know now he's in the miracle morning movie like as he is a miracle morning practitioner right and it changed his life and i think he said i forgot the stat but it was on Instagram one day. He's like, it's increased my productivity by like 300%. Don't quote me, but it's something like that, you know? And so that's someone who was full on night owl, had no reason that he needed to wake up early.

Starting point is 00:33:34 And when he did, it actually enhanced his already awesome life. And Robert Kiyosaki was the same way, right? You know, worth a hundred million dollars, super successful, does the miracle morning. He said it transformed his marriage for the better. He lost like, I don't know the amount of pounds, but if you look at him pre miracle morning, he is probably 50 pounds heavier. And now he looks, he's felt, he looks healthy, you know? So that's awesome. Yeah. Talk to me about, uh, the thing

Starting point is 00:33:57 that we were talking about right before we started though, was how this is actually starting to get into schools, which I think is awesome because, and I was, I was surprised you said like, actually the majority of them are actually elementary schools. It's all across the board, but elementary is actually where it's starting. So how did it start? Cause you were telling me a story and then what exactly is, is happening in schools with the miracle morning? So totally organic. Um, Brianna Greenspan, who is one of my closest friends, uh, she was a coaching client before you were, I think when when or after, I don't know. But when I was when I was first writing, not writing, when I came with the Miracle Morning,

Starting point is 00:34:29 she was the first one I taught it to. And she resisted. I'm not a morning person. I'm not. And then she is like the biggest advocate of the Miracle Morning. She started the Miracle Morning clubhouse room a couple of years ago. And somebody came in that clubhouse room that was a principal. And she said, her name is Anisha Jacko. She said, I'm in New York City. I'm in one of the worst school districts, like poverty, you know, stricken school district. We had one of the highest attention rates. Somebody gave me the miracle morning during the 2020 pandemic. My mental health was, I was struggling.

Starting point is 00:34:58 And she said, I started doing it and it changed my life. And I, so then I shared it with all of our teachers. I'm like, you guys, we got to do this together. So we did a 30-day challenge. All the teachers were like, this is amazing. How do we roll it out with the kids? So they started doing a six-minute savers over the loudspeaker every morning.

Starting point is 00:35:14 She would lead it. That's awesome. And every student would do a miracle morning to start their day. Their detention went from the highest rate in their entire, like in their their i don't know district or whatever um to almost no detention at all it's crazy i mean i wouldn't believe it if i hadn't she hadn't showed me the stats i went out and visited her like so she shares this in the clubhouse

Starting point is 00:35:37 room and brianna's like this is amazing and another woman speaks up she's like hey i'm a principal hey can we exchange info how do we roll this out in our school? And so totally organic. Then over the next like 12 months, Brianna brought the Miracle Morning to over 100,000 teachers and students in just New York City. This was last year. And now it's the number one selling educational product

Starting point is 00:36:01 in the largest city in America, one of the largest cities in America. And we're just starting, like the state of Rhode Island now is looking at adopting it in their entire state curriculum. So, and here's the crazy part. I told you this in 2016, this is a lesson in manifesting y'all. And I am very skeptical at manifesting, but when this happens, I'm like, I guess it's a coincidence, but I've seen so many of these coincidences. I don't know. manifesting but when this happens i'm like i guess it's a coincidence but i've seen so many of these coincidences i don't know yeah in 2016 i wrote the 10-year vision for the miracle morning right and this is 2023 so we're what seven years into it yeah and one of the components i wrote

Starting point is 00:36:33 is that by 2026 the miracle morning is practiced in every school in america and i was thinking like what are the benefits of right i know the adults that are practicing the miracle morning how it's changing their life how would that apply to a student? I thought, well, if students are meditating every day and they're getting, they're finding peace within themselves and they're reading affirmations that remind them that they are limitless and capable of anything. And, and I thought they could really overcome their limiting beliefs and their self doubt and the, the insecurities they face and, and the fear, the things that cause them to bully other kids i remember i literally wrote down it could be bringing an end to bullying right so i wrote that down but i actually left it at that i didn't make a plan to how to get it in schools yeah and then uh and then brianna greenspan

Starting point is 00:37:17 um ends up sharing it on the clubhouse room with you know that principal and then now it's spread through schools throughout new york city over a hundred thousand teachers and educators and parents have adopted the miracle morning and it's spreading throughout the entire country. And, um, yeah, it's, it's amazing. And the reports we're getting are, you know, bullying is down, detention is down, mental health is up. And, and, and it's gone beyond the book where now we're creating this entire curriculum where Brianna and her team go into schools and they teach the teachers and the principals how to roll it out in their school with their students in their classrooms. Yeah. So, well, this is, I mean, I know I have a lot of teachers that listen to me. There's hundreds of

Starting point is 00:37:57 thousands of people that are going to hear this. So is there a way for, uh, if someone's out there, they're a teacher, they're a principal, is there an email or some way to get in touch with your team then in that way? So right now we'll start with email. We're in the, we're building a website where schools can, you know, submit like a request, but support it miracle morning.com. Uh, and if you're like, Hey, I'm, I heard the podcast. I, I'm a teacher, I'm a principal, I'm a parent. I'm really interested in bringing this to my school. We'll, you know, I'll get in touch with Brianna or our team and we'll figure that out. Yeah. So thanks for, yeah, for sure. Yeah. Cause I think it's important if it's, if it's obviously doing that much with the, the a hundred thousand kids, imagine if you could get out to the entire

Starting point is 00:38:32 United States and there's probably people out there that are listening that have schools or either part of a school, they're a teacher, they're a principal. Maybe there's people that are heads of school districts. And so if they read it, first off, I think the important thing is just buy it for yourself and read it. And then if it changed your life, then you're going to go, shit, I should actually bring this to everyone else, which is exactly what happened with that principle, which I think is important. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:38:51 Um, last thing I want to, I want to bring up is something that was, that was really life-changing for me. And it's, it's on topic, but a little bit off topic. And, um, and I remember years ago used to have bracelets and I used to have the bracelets and, uh, and I used to have the bracelets. And I want you to tell a story just for people, because I think this is a really good way to wrap up and just have people understand it of where it came from, the whole five minute rule, everything that came along with it. And because I think it was a story of you bought a new car, right? Like that's that's how the whole thing came up in the first place.

Starting point is 00:39:23 You had a new car and then some things happened with it. And then your wife, who is, I think, at your girlfriend at the time was like, why are you not more pissed off? So I don't want to give the whole thing away, which is why I'm being very vague in it. But can you tell that story and, um, and kind of what you learned from it? Cause I think it's really important for people to listen to and go, Oh man, like I can implement this into my day immediately. Yeah. First part, I'm not sure what story you're talking about. The one where you were driving, you were driving your car, it was your, your dream car, right? And didn't you get into a car accident and your wife was like... Ice beer scene.

Starting point is 00:39:47 Yeah, you know that one? I know your stories. Listen, you've been in a few car accidents. For anybody who doesn't know Hal's story, because we didn't talk about it at all, you've already been dead before, which is crazy. You've been in a coma. You've been told you weren't going to walk.

Starting point is 00:40:00 You got past all of that. And so that's a whole other thing that we didn't even have time to go into today. But it was, it was the idea of, of the five minute rule and can't change it. And, and just sharing how people can take that into their day to day. So one of the most important lessons I've ever learned yet, it's called the five minute rule. And I also call it the can't change it philosophy. Yeah. And it started when I was in sales. We learned on our second day of training at Cutco where we've had our history. Uh, but my manager essentially said sales is a microcosm for life in terms of adversity. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:40:30 He said, most people face rejection every once in a while, you know, rarely. He said, you're going to face it like every day, multiple times a day, all the time. And you have to have a tool to deal with rejection with failure, so on and so forth. He said, so when things don't go your way, most people, they dwell on it. They get upset. It ruins their day. It ruins their week. It ruins their month, or even people are suffering. Many of us are suffering over things that happened like a decade ago when we were children, right? Like the trauma that we experienced, so on and so forth. And so he said, you need a tool. You need a strategy to move through adversity quickly, mentally and emotionally. So you can just keep going. Right. And he taught us the five minute

Starting point is 00:41:04 rule. And he said, when something goes wrong, wrong and again this was in the context of you know someone canceling their order or not showing up to an appointment or you're not reaching your goal for the week but i ended up applying this to the biggest most life-threatening seemingly insurmountable challenges i ever faced from my car accident to cancer and so on and so forth and i use it in traffic and you've had cancer too god you've had so much shit. You've gone through a lot. You've died. You've been in a coma. You've had cancer. So, so, so almost died a few times. So this is important. Like as you're going into it. Yeah. So you have been dead for six minutes, right? So you're dead for six minutes. You were in a coma. You, a few years ago, I completely

Starting point is 00:41:42 forgot you had cancer, overcame cancer. And it's a very rare form of cancer that not a lot of people live from, right? It's like, I was given a 20 to 30% chance of surviving. Yeah. Super low. And so you can, if, if somebody can, can do it in like their boss is an asshole and something happens and they can use this in their life, use this for like the biggest events that happen. And so I just want to bring that in for people to understand, like you actually truly live this way. Yeah. This is whether you are using this to deal with traffic and not letting it bother you. Basically, it's how to not let anything outside of you affect your internal state. That's what this is. Right.

Starting point is 00:42:13 Perfect. And you can apply it. And I kind of feel like God has put me through these life threatening experiences. Just to challenge you to make sure. So that most people can be like, okay. All right. If he was hit by a drunk driver, found dead at the scene, told he would never walk again, broke 11 bones in this work to not let that bother him. Yeah. And then had cancer and did it again. Like, okay, I don't really, I don't have

Starting point is 00:42:35 anything going on. That's too much worse than that. Right. So, um, so the five minute rule again, taught in training. And he said, when something goes wrong, you set your timer for five minutes on your phone and you give yourself five minutes to fully experience the emotions that are coming out for you if you're angry if you're sad if you're frustrated if you're if you feel hate whatever it is you give yourself five minutes to fully express and feel those emotions don't suppress them which is what some of us will do right so we either dwell on them indefinitely or we suppress them and then they come out sideways later either as cancer or yelling at our spouse or or we suppress them and then they come out sideways later, either as cancer or yelling at our spouse or, or we get depressed or whatever. And it's because all the, it all pent up. So five minutes and you feel your emotions. And when I first learned that I was like, five minutes isn't

Starting point is 00:43:12 long enough. Like I need longer. Right. And so he said, after the five minutes go off, you say three really powerful words. And that's what that wristband that you mentioned used to say. Can't change it. Can't change it. And so acknowledgement, okay, I can't change what happened five minutes ago. So right now I have a choice. I can continue to dwell on it and be upset about it. It doesn't change anything. It just messes up my mental and emotional state, or I can accept life exactly as it is. I can go, okay, can't change it. It happened. I'm going to accept it. I might not be happy about it, but I'm going to get peace with it because what other choice do I have? And so the other, it's either I'm upset. I continue that or I'm, I accept it and I can just

Starting point is 00:43:49 move on. And so when I first learned that I'm like five minutes isn't long enough. And the first time I remember this lady like didn't show up to her appointment and I was like, I set my timer for five minutes. I'm, I'm bitching and moaning and stewing. I'm like, I can't believe she didn't show up. I drove like 40 minutes to get here. I needed that appointment. And the timer goes off. I'm like, dude, I'm still pissed. Like, right. So I was like justified. I'm like, see five minutes isn't long enough, but here's the crazy thing that happened after I did it for probably, it was only like a week, which was multiple times a day, right? Five minute rule, five minute rule, five minute rule. And I got, I was able to accept it faster and faster and faster.

Starting point is 00:44:22 And I literally remember it was about a week or two after I started practicing the five minute rule and this woman canceled her order. And it was the biggest order I'd ever gotten. It was the last day before orders were due. So I had no chance to make it up. It allowed me to not only reach my goal, but become number one in the office. So I was like celebrating that day. I called my parents and like, mom, dad, I was only 19. I'm like, I just reached my goal. I'm the number one rep in the office they're gonna acknowledge me on on wednesday at the team meeting i'm gonna win like a trophy like it's you know i was so excited and she calls that night at 9 p.m it's like i'm so sorry my husband came home he was mad i have to cancel the order oh my god i'm like devastated and i set the timer for five minutes at that point it was like second nature whenever i felt

Starting point is 00:45:03 emotional turmoil i would set the timer and i remember i was like second nature whenever i felt emotional turmoil i would set the timer and i remember i was like i can't believe she canceled it like i i'm not getting i'm not gonna get recognized i'm not you know and i'm like this sucks this sucks like what am i gonna do i'm like the only thing i can do is i can just you know accept it and get on because i already practiced accepting what i couldn't change so i literally i'm not joking i can remember it i'm like, what else can I do? I got, I got to accept it and move on. And I pick up my phone and look at the timer and there's four minutes and 32 seconds, 28 seconds. And I'm like, what's the point of me continuing

Starting point is 00:45:36 to dwell on something that I can't change. And, and this is an important distinction. I realized that every painful emotion we experience is self created and perpetuated by our resistance to reality. It's wishing that thing didn't happen five minutes ago and the degree that we resist it and wish it didn't happen and say it's unfair and we didn't deserve it. That's not changing it. It's just causing and perpetuating and fostering that emotional turmoil.

Starting point is 00:46:04 And so I went, what's the point in being upset and fostering that emotional turmoil. And so I went, what's the point in being upset for the next four and a half minutes when I could just accept it, go relax and get on the phone tomorrow. And in that moment I realized, oh, not only is five minutes enough time, I'm not going to ever waste five minutes again, being upset. And I remember the distinction. I'm like, I'm going to do the five second rule. Give me five seconds to be like, mother, you know, and then be like, well, I can't't change it i'm moving on and and so a year and a half later i woke up from a coma and i was told i'm never gonna walk again yeah and i'll be honest it didn't take five minutes it took like a few days of like processing that one takes time but it took right

Starting point is 00:46:38 like but to be fair literally a few days and the doctor started saying they brought my parents in they're like we think hal's in denial he's like really happy yeah and he seems jovial like everything's okay we believe that he can't handle his new reality and so my parents approached me and they're like the doctors think you can't handle it and they said you need to face the emotions i'm like no i can't change that i was in a car accident and i said if i'm in a wheelchair the rest of my life guys i've decided not guys mom and dad i said i've decided i to be the happiest, most grateful person you've ever seen in a wheelchair because I can't change that I'm in a wheelchair, but I can choose my inner experience. It's amazing.

Starting point is 00:47:13 And I only have one life and I'm going to enjoy every moment. And the day I was diagnosed with cancer and given a 20% chance of surviving, it was like, I didn't even need five minutes, you know? And there were for sure times I cried over the next year thinking about, what if I die and I'm not here for my kids? For sure. It's not about like, oh, just everything's fine. But here's what it is. This is wrapping up, tying a bow on this lesson.

Starting point is 00:47:38 It's about being able to choose the emotional state that best serves you at any given moment, no matter what's happening. And sometimes it is grieving. Sometimes it is feeling the fear. So you can actually imagine what do I need to do to prevent the thing that could happen that could cause that fear becoming a reality, right? So for me being afraid of dying and leaving my kids without a dad, that got me to do three coffee enemas a week and take 70 supplements and do lymphatic massage and ozone sauna and organic vegan raw diet. Like, dude, I went all in on every holistic practice known to man. And that's why I'm still alive, I believe.

Starting point is 00:48:14 Not because I did chemo, but because I did everything that the doctors didn't tell me to do. Yeah. That would support my liver and my immune system and detoxify me and, you know, and my mental health. My miracle morning every morning was focused on beating cancer for like three years. Yeah. Right. And I'm here, you know, to, to talk about it. So I'm glad you're here. Thanks. Yeah. So, so good, man. And, uh, for those of you guys that haven't gotten it yet, uh, I think you and I want to go get it, go to get the miracle morning and it is out now. This is the brand new edition. It went from 150 pages to 250 pages. 220.

Starting point is 00:48:48 220. Sorry. 150 to 220. So there's 70 extra pages in here. And also, what, 15 years of extra wisdom that's put into here as well. Every page, yeah. Every single page expanded and, we'll just say, made better with 15 years of extra wisdom. So, Hal, appreciate you, buddy. I love you, bro, 15 years of extra wisdom. So how appreciate you, buddy.

Starting point is 00:49:07 Thank you for being here. Love you too, man. Thank you, Rob. And, uh, everybody go out and buy the book. We'll see you on the next episode.

The Mindset Mentor - The Power of Being a Morning Person

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