The Mismatch - Jaylen Brown’s Pippen Moment, Beef Stew Hype, Christmas Cards, and Are the Thunder Chasing History?
Episode Date: December 12, 2025Verno and Jacoby return as they recap the NBA Cup games from Tuesday and Wednesday night. They discuss the Thunder's continued dominance to start the season after matching the best 25-game start in NB...A history, how the Spurs exploited the Lakers' defensive inefficiencies, and why the Knicks have a chance against the Magic. Next, the guys dive into their loves and loathes from the past week in the NBA. (00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch! (02:30) Western Conference NBA Cup recap (16:50) Eastern Conference NBA Cup recap (27:40) Verno and Jacoby’s no. 1 loves of the week (35:58) Verno and Jacoby’s no. 1 loathes of the week (42:00) No. 2 loves of the week (51:59) No. 2 loathes of the week (58:30) No. 3 loves of the week (01:03:20) No. 3 loathes of the week The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Leave us a message on our Mismatch Voicemail line! (323) 389-5091 Hosts: Chris Vernon and David Jacoby Producers: Jessie Lopez, Brian Waters, and Oscar De La Luz Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to the mismatch.
I'm Chris Vernon and joining me.
He does every week from The Ringer.com is Dave Jacoby.
Jacobi.
I'm still in sunny Los Angeles, Verno.
How has Los Angeles been?
How long did you live there when you lived there?
Ooh, uh,
about seven years, six years, something like that.
That's when Grantland was going on?
Grantland started, yeah.
And so you lived out there for seven years and then you moved back to the East Coast after that?
Yes.
Gotcha.
Gotcha.
Do you miss living in Los Angeles now that you have visited Los Angeles?
No.
No.
I would think like right now, especially on December 11th, you would quite enjoy the weather.
This is when usually people go out to the West Coast and they're like, why don't I live here?
It's freezing where I live.
It's, I'm very easy, especially we've got like four kids.
Like, doesn't really matter where I live now.
You know what I mean?
That's fair.
Your life's over anyway.
Exactly.
Who cares?
You know, I like to make.
Mexican food out here, though.
I'll tell you that much.
Great.
Fantastic.
All right.
Well, have you enjoyed watching the NBA cup at three o'clock in the afternoon?
I have.
It's been a wonderful experience.
We're taping right now at 6 p.m.
My time.
There's a bunch of games going on right now.
They're much more competitive than I expected them to be.
But it's lovely.
I went over to our friend Bill Simmons house last night,
watching a couple of the cup games.
Had a good old time.
Is Bill Simmons's house as awesome as I would expect it to be?
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All right, Oklahoma City.
They matched Golden State, the 15-16 Golden State Warriors for the best record through 255 games.
and got center stage last night
and absolutely mauled the Phoenix Suns.
Interestingly enough,
I went to go look at that Warriors team won 29 of their first 30.
They also won 24 in a row.
Yeah.
Their one win wasn't like in the middle sort of like,
okay, Cases.
They won 24 in a row.
We're like, are they going to go 82 and O?
And then they lost one.
Well, interestingly enough, when I went, look,
they were 36.
six and two.
So that's kind of the next mark that we can look at for Oklahoma City.
The 15-16 warriors were 36 and 2 through 38 games.
And one of the wild things was we talked about point differential in the last episode.
I explained how theirs was like 12 something last year, which set the all-time record.
Right now their point differential is plus.
17.5.
Well, they beat the sons by
80 last night. They beat them by 80.
They were up by
what was the... Fifty-three at one point.
I mean, I wrote down
maybe the funniest phrase
that I could have ever expected
that I would read on this episode
of the mismatch.
This phrase is something I never expected
to read.
With 525
left in the third
court or in the fourth quarter
Chris Youngbloods three put them up by
50. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I read that
too. Chris Youngblood?
Chris Youngblood. Another AI created
Thunder player who's hitting threes.
Chris Youngblood? Three. My
favorite thing about the game last night, because
again, it's like 2.30 in the afternoon
before this thing starts. So I'm watching
the Amazon pregame show.
Lovely show. And all they're talking
I was like, you have to limit the turnovers against the thunder.
You've got to hit your threes.
You've got to get out to, you know, you've got to play a good defense and, you know,
and pack the paint.
And the jump ball happens.
And Grayson Allen gets the ball.
He dribbles over half court.
Case and Wallace steals the ball from him and gets a layup.
It's like we're seven seconds into the game.
And every, and all of your game planning is out there.
Yeah, exactly.
Just seven seconds into the game.
And Casey Wallace has already got a stolen the ball from a ball handler and finished a layup.
a contested layup.
So you have had these teams that have started the seasons
with these great, great records.
But when I mentioned the 17.5,
I thought maybe somebody did it,
like had this kind of a point differential
and then it tamped down as the year went on
for like the beginning of the year.
No, the 07-08 Celtics,
who were one of the great teams,
through their first 25 games,
they had the best point differential up to this point in a season,
25 games, and it was 13.9.
So we're four points better than that on this.
It's ridiculous to watch them sometimes.
The sun's just,
the suns just couldn't even,
they couldn't even like connect passes.
Forget getting buckets.
And Chris Youngbloods three put them up by 50.
Ridiculous.
Yeah, they were,
I mean,
they were up by a million points in this game.
This was a wildly non-competitive basketball game.
That onslaught they put on at the end of the second quarter,
the 20 to 6 run where it was like steel three, three, three, three.
And it was like, oh, what are we even doing here?
They kept it kind of around 10, 12 for like the first quarter.
I was, I'll get a game here.
The only reason I kept it on was like, okay, they got some hot heads.
Maybe we'll get a fight.
And we were close, which we'll get to it a little bit.
But I was like, they got enough hotheads that something may transpire in this, right?
Because there's at least three of these sons that aren't going to take well to getting their ass beat this bad.
You know, there's some that are just going to be like, all right, pack it in.
These kind of things happen.
And then there's going to be three of them that are like, no, not tonight.
And like somebody's going to get clipped or something's going to happen.
And sure enough, it did.
So that made it worthy of at least keeping it on for a little.
while in the other Western conference game.
Talked about how this NBA cup with it getting center stage can be a real coming out
party.
We fair to say the coming out party is Castle.
I mean, he won rookie of the year, so it's hard to have a true coming out party.
But like big stage, prime time, everybody watching, he had a game.
But for me, that game was, it wasn't about, it was about the Lakers defense.
like they just they cannot stop anybody
from getting past them getting to where they want to be in the paint
they can't they don't have anybody
I remember Mark Smart played well
but he's he's not the defender he used to be
like they just don't have defenders
they don't well this is what JJ Redick said after the game
JJ Reddick said I think being able to contain
the basketball is probably the most difficult
thing now and Luca Donchich followed it up
by saying they were just getting downhill driving
kicking. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Both of that's true. And here's what I'm going to say. So one of the things
that happens at the beginning of the season is you find out who's getting a ton of threes made against
them. Who's not? This kind of stuff evens out, right? Like you say, all right, teams have shot
this extraordinary rate from three against them this year. And that's going to kind of even out.
and then when it does, things will look a little bit better.
I will only say on the Lakers front,
where they're bottom five in three point percentage against,
if you're just going to let teams, not let,
if teams are going to be able to generate
what amounts to practice shots,
they're going to lock them down.
They're wide ass open.
Like, of course they're shooting high percentages against the Lakers.
They're wide open.
Like, you go to a,
You know, I'm at NBA arenas early all the time.
And even the guys you think stink.
Oh, yeah.
Gogh Potazi will hit 20 in a row.
Yeah.
No problem.
And so if you're going to let these guys shoot wide open threes,
they're going to make a pretty good percentage of those.
So I'm not so sure that the whole three point percentage is going to even out as much
as it typically would against the Lakers because.
as the phrase goes, slow feet don't eat.
And you can try to do the whole,
we just need to be on a string and five guys defending is one, whatever.
Like these guys are, like the other team looks faster and more athletic.
And as I watched what the Spurs did last night,
I thought, my God, if Oklahoma City locked in,
they beat them by a thousand.
Yeah, I mean, if that's the next game.
It's Reeves.
Luca and LeBron to a certain extent are just not providing enough deterrence from people
getting to the pain. They don't even slow them down. They just go people's going right around
them. Well, and the other thing is they added Finney Smith last year. Yeah. It's kind of like,
okay, here's somebody that can defend the other perimeter and obviously he's gone. But I mean,
you're still not going to have the, like, who can, there's nothing to add. I know that the Herb Jones
things come up. But there's a, but that's why.
one player.
Exactly.
They got a guard five on the other team.
Right?
They don't have to guard one guy.
Like, certainly having somebody that could be a point of attack defender
would go a long way.
But they're getting beat by everybody off the dribble.
They really are.
Yeah.
Everybody.
And I guess the idea is that they're going to score enough points to make up for it,
but they don't score enough points to make up for it.
When they give up like 130-some points?
So you looked at it.
You thought, wow, this tells us something about the Lakers.
The Lakers might be the two seed, the three seed at the end of the season,
but they're not to be taken seriously in a seven-game series.
You sound like somebody that's been in the studio for Chris Paul,
or Rich Paul's new show.
Yeah, game over.
Do you know he must have been smiling like a Cheshire cat last night watching that?
He'd be like, I tried to tell him.
Try to tell him the Lakers weren't good.
That this 17 and 7 record ain't what a season?
I thought we at least get a competitive game after that thunder game.
I was like, all right, Spurs Lakers is going to be good at least.
It wasn't that competitive.
And they got down to like eight or ten at some point.
Well, you had Castle with 30 and 10.
You had eight spurs scoring at least eight.
I have talked about the Spurs several times on this show already this year
because one of the things that we talked about coming into the season,
I was worried that this so Wembe dependent, right?
The whole thing, but that has been not the case.
you have, this has been a strength in numbers thing that's going on with San Antonio,
where the champanies of the world have stepped up and the Harrison Barnes and the
Fox.
Obviously Fox has been fantastic.
Dylan Harper has been the most low-key awesome rookie, right?
While you're getting flag and canipple and coward.
He had a couple drives last night where he just looks so in control.
And it looks like, I don't know, he just, it looks like he's not experimenting.
It looks like everything is very intentional, all of his footwork.
Like he is really impressive rookie.
He plays like someone who's been in the league for six years.
Well, and this is absolute best case scenario that they proved to be able to be able to win basketball games without win Binyama.
Because what it tells you is this is not a team that needs to, there was always going to be, you remember, we went through this with Luca, what did this with Giannis.
We still do to this day, right?
Anytime you've got a transcendent player.
you go, well, they got to build out around him, right?
Like, you know, I mean, geez.
And especially if you got a transcendent player that's still on a rookie contract, right?
Because theoretically, that's, that, it's almost like having a rookie quarterback.
That's awesome.
You're going to get that amount of time to have your best roster you're going to be able to have.
And if they were playing in caliber or on the outside looking in, then everybody's going,
well look they better build around wemby right because he wants to be playing playoff basketball
and whatever else but it seems like they've got the roster to be able to get to play play
playoff basketball and getting the mix even now and certainly with getting him back like
this could be a much better team than I think we might have even expected if they hit whatever
ceiling we set for them well if I'm coach Mitch and wimby knocks at my door it says I'm ready to go
I'm medically cleared.
I'm ready to go.
I'm like, you're going to sit this one out Saturday, buddy.
Really?
Maybe the Thunder is not the first game that you come back on minutes restriction.
They's made it sound like he's coming back.
He's been playing five on five at practice.
Yeah, they made it sound like that.
Maybe the thunder, maybe the best defense that we've seen in years isn't the best time to come back after an injury.
But hold on, Jacoby.
Look, very rarely you're going to have 500 grand on the line.
I got it.
it's 500 grand to somebody that's going to make 200 billion more than likely.
500 grand is a lot of money to anybody.
500 grand is a lot of money to anybody.
And that game,
like if there's something you want to get back for,
that one matters a lot more to them than others.
And that's why, you know,
we've kind of,
unfortunately these cup games have not been very good.
But,
I mean,
as a basketball fan,
Wembe coming back for the Oklahoma City game would be,
I would love to see it.
It's a dream.
It's a dream.
That being his first game back, that would be great.
In Vegas.
Yes.
Bright lights, big stage.
I would love that.
Yes.
So hopefully we do get him back.
By the way, when you were talking about the gross defense of the Lakers,
35 transition points last night.
Oh, my God.
Was the most that they have given up this year.
Do you have the off turnover stuff?
I'm sure.
I don't.
After turnovers, I'm sure some stupid number.
35 transition points is.
That's a lot.
A lot of that is coming off of steals, too.
Oh, yeah.
And so not a great stage for the Lakers.
I think people, much like you, are more down on them after watching that play out.
And I think we're inevitably going to be higher on the spurs.
Two of those transition points were after LeBron dunks on Cornette and stands there screaming at him for 10 seconds.
You remember that?
And then they just got a bucket going the other way because no one was in the playing defense for the
Lakers.
Like, that was a huge momentum pivot point in the game.
You're a guy, your 41-year-old LeBron, get dunks on somebody, crowds energized,
and they immediately the Spurs went like a 6-0 run.
Yeah.
Immediately.
And the Spurs, with the Castle game, now you know they have Fox, who's a great
clutch performer and outstanding player who's been really good.
And then you get Wemby back.
And, like, you look at it and you go, man, they've got a couple other guys that
could step up if they needed to, right?
when you're in a big game and a guy like that gets you 30,
you've got to look at him differently.
Absolutely.
And so I do think this is about as close as you get to,
you know, we're never going to mimic the playoffs.
But I will say these guys do want to win these games.
And there is a heightened intensity that comes with it.
And so the castle thing was big.
On the eastern side, Orlando knocked off the heat.
Desmond Bain got his money back for,
chucking the ball at O'GN and OB, he said.
Yeah.
He said, I needed to make some money back.
They had to pay 35 grand.
He did it.
He did it.
Usually the magic beat the Knicks.
For some reason, I'm just guessing now.
Magic probably won like five of the last six games against the Knicks.
But the last game against the Knicks, the Bain assault with the basketball game,
the Knicks won and looked pretty good doing it.
I think without prawns, I expect the Knicks to.
take this one. You do. All right. Well, look,
it ended up
as someone who covered a team that ran that
offense last year,
it
was a very good offense
that found itself harder
to perform against
the best teams.
And maybe that is not
fair to put that on the offense. And you
should just say, well, that's more personnel
than the offense. But, but,
but it is one of those things where it's like,
this thing can be devastating and your numbers are crazy.
And the night that you're playing the rat team,
you're putting up 142 against him.
And we have seen that be true of the heat this year.
But when it looks bad, it looks bad.
And it looks bad against Orlando because that's a team that can really defend.
And so all of the fun free motion,
it didn't look that fun and free motion against.
Orlando the other night did it.
Well, all the isolation stuff, like,
where's going to give you space to go against your defender?
It's like, that's great.
But when it's Jalen Suggs, it's not great.
Right.
And you've got a,
and you've got a group of guys that are a bunch of young athletes.
And you do have this extraordinary size with that Orlando team.
On the Knicks front,
again, another dud with the Toronto game.
And Toronto,
we talked about them earlier this week.
The RJ Barrett thing has just been,
has had a.
profound effect.
Some of it's got to be
opponent and coincidence.
It's not just as simple as they lose R.J.
Barrett, they lose games.
But to come to the top of my head,
I think they're 12 and 5 with RJ Barrett
and 3 and 6 without them.
I'm pretty sure.
Well, I mean, even earlier in the week
when we talked about them,
I had in my notes that they were losers
of 5 of 6, including 2 to Charlotte.
And when I went and looked at their offense,
the percentages were all down,
the turnovers were all up,
the free throws were down.
Like, the whole thing was like, oh, my God.
Since RJ Barrett went out.
That Verno was looking at his notes for a previous show,
and he takes out his spiral notebook like a high school kid in 1994,
and he's got handwritten notes.
Like, you know we have computers and printers in today's day and age, right?
I've never used those.
You don't know this?
I have, I use my notes.
So you're on a computer to get the information,
and then you handwrite the information from the computer.
Correct.
Every show I've ever done, both my local show and the mismatch is logged, every show.
And I only use, here, I'm going to give you, I am not OCD about anything.
Except, yeah, this stuff, I only use, maybe this will get me a sponsorship.
I only use five-star college-ruled notebooks.
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And I only use...
If you're over 60 and still take notes with a pen paper.
And I only use Unibol Vision pens.
Oh, Unibol Vision.
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Look, I've got a whole pack here.
Have you seen any ads for pens?
Like, when we were kids, they would have, like, big pen ads?
Have you seen the pen industry is not exactly booming right now, Bruno?
Yeah.
I don't know if you know that.
Well, and that's why I want to be able to do it.
So the reason I write everything down is so for that exact moment.
I can go back.
Yeah, because I could never go back and look at my old notes.
Because the digital files just disappear.
It's like a van it's like vanishing mode in Instagram.
It is.
When you're DMing thought.
It's not as fast as my method.
I can just flip back into my notebook.
Yeah.
And then I get my notebook.
The notebook is locked in there forever.
It's locked in forever.
You never know.
You can get hacked.
That's right.
Yeah.
That's right.
And I might lose it.
Yeah.
I don't like typing very much.
Computer crashes.
Now, the one thing I will say that is the downfall
of this is my penmanship is very poor. So I, it does not, it's not great for somebody to be a note taker,
but it's also able to read their own note. It happens. It happens regularly. Regularly. Like,
so when I do, and it is weird, I do it on notes, on the notes,
app. That's how I do most of the rundown stuff for my shows. And then I do, but I do transfer it
over to a notebook that's sitting in front of me. It's true. Totally normal. Yeah. Hey, it is what it is.
But I'm appreciative that you noticed my spiral notebook. Yeah, you can get that, you can get that
information from your previous show notes real quick. That's right. It's just there. Right there.
I was able to perfect recall on R.J. Barrett and the profound effect he has had on the Toronto
Rafters. There's no chance you would have ever known that if I didn't have my notebook.
I had the record in my brain. I didn't even need, didn't even need notes. I just remember two days
ago. So the Raptors stink without RJ Barrett. I should have just written that down.
No one's, I mean, no one's even said this yet. Does this help his MVP case? No question.
It does. I mean, look at that. We're talking about the value of you to the team, RJ Barrett, MVP.
Yep. Two other things.
regarding the cup.
The game so far
have been duds.
It has not been fun to watch.
It sets up
two great ones.
So I'm hopeful
there is a world
where these teams
that we've got involved
could make conference finals.
There is a world.
Sure.
It's not
for Orlando and for
San Antonio, it is unlikely.
It would be unexpected.
Yeah.
But again, Nixon Thunder, it's a,
it is an absolute failure if
those teams are not in the conference final.
Correct. And I would say like,
and when I say it could,
it would be unexpected.
To wit, it was unexpected
last year that we were watching a game seven
between Indiana and Oklahoma City
in the NBA final. So this stuff
does happen, right? And it,
If we didn't learn from last year when a team that was not even 500 when the calendar turned,
we should have.
And so I do think Orlando, for Orlando at San Antonio, you're looking at those teams.
And right now you're hopeful that they're at least second round teams,
that they're teams that are going to the second round of the playoffs.
And then who knows, dependent on matchup, you could see those teams in conference finals.
It's not outlandish.
And so I want to see how those teams, because those are kind of the up-and-comers versus these vet teams.
And I know that we're now looking at Oklahoma City as a vet team, but I mean, they've got championship rings for God's sakes.
And certainly San Antonio is next up if there is to be someone.
And I do think that if people are looking and going, who's the potential challenger for Oklahoma City if there is.
is going to be one.
And they've got to be the leader in the clubhouse.
I'm talking over the course of the next five years.
Not now.
Yeah,
not now.
You know what?
I'm pumping the brakes in this Thunder Dynasty talk.
You know what I mean?
Like,
it's like people are already using the D word with the Thunder.
They won a championship.
They went to game seven twice in the playoffs.
I understand how they're set up.
I understand that they're young.
I understand they've got a million lottery picks in the next three years.
But like,
let's just,
let's just pump the brakes on Dynasty.
There'll be plenty of time to,
talk Dynasty later, but like it's almost like
the world has handed them three of the next five championships.
Like, let's just win another one.
Well, let me speak on this.
I love it.
And I love that there is now a team to beat.
We have been overrun by parody
over the course of the last couple of years,
where everybody's just kind of,
but I like the idea if anybody beats that team, it's going to be a big upset.
I like that.
I do.
I like the fact that there's-
I mean, didn't you feel that way about the Celtics last year?
No.
You serious?
Going into that Nick Celtic series.
No.
No.
Verno.
I didn't.
Defending champions.
I got it.
I got it.
I got it.
Good regular season.
This is a pretty soft title.
for being honest.
The Celtics title was soft?
He has a pretty soft title.
I mean,
it all broke.
I'm not saying they weren't great.
It all broke,
though.
And it got Luca traded.
Luca did something to Nico.
He did something.
We're going to find out.
We're going to find out in seven years.
No.
One day,
Luca Dodger took a shit on his hood of his car in the parking lot.
It didn't do anything except not be able to stay in front of athletes.
I promise you,
Niko was watching that shit last night,
drunker than hell going.
I told you.
Defense wins championship.
Where is it down you?
Where is he right now?
I mean,
probably got a buyout, right?
So, I mean, he's probably
kicked up watching
Lukit Dachin's defensive highlights.
He's on the peach, playing the acoustic
guitar, got a campfire going.
He's watching Amazon on his phone.
Yep.
Probably. All right, let's get to our loves and loaves of the week.
You know what? Since I went ahead and said what I said about Boston,
I'm going to go out of my way on my first love to give Jalen Brown his just desserts
because he has...
Wait, hold on. Is that the phrase, just desserts?
I believe so. If not, just check it. I don't know. I don't know.
Do you want me to scroll through my spiral notebook to go to the phrase page?
I've got a phone
I've got a smartphone here
I don't have like a rotary phone
type it in if I'm wrong
I'm wrong just desserts
yeah
what does it mean
meaning of just desserts
am I wrong
let's see
I think you're right
thank you
yeah there you go
thank you you're right
that's why I went to Harvard
I apologize
I was to Harvard
I for sure did not go to Harvard
I physically went to Harvard a lot
my dad lived in Cambridge
I went to Harvard a ton
not for school.
No, just like five weeks.
Just around.
See if there are any hot nerdy chicks.
Yeah, there are.
Boston 8 and 2.
I saw Goodwill hunting.
Boston 8 and 2,
four game winning streak.
Get me up to date.
Are they winning tonight?
Oh.
You got your smartphone.
I've got my smartphone.
This is a lot of work for me,
but I'm not the research department.
Listen, it's loading, all right?
The games are close.
The Clippers are being the Rockets.
didn't see that coming. The bucks are down one in the third quarter, down two in the third quarter.
Okay. So they are winning. Every game is that every game going right now is a one or two point game.
Okay, but they are winning. Okay. They're eight and two in their last 10. They got a four game win streak.
So this would be nine and two and five in a row if they're able to get this one tonight.
Through the first 24 games, he is having the third best Celtic scoring season ever.
Damn. Jason Tatum averaged 30.
in 2023 and Larry Bird average 29.9 in 1988.
right now Jalen Brown is at 29.1.
But he is also doing it on 50% field goal this year.
And just having a sensational season.
And so love the way he is playing.
He's got his opportunity to be a number one.
And not only is he taking hold of that opportunity, he has been absolutely sensational.
He's proven to be able to take on that role.
And he has moved them up to, they're like third in the east right now.
Again, we'll see how much staying power this has.
But for right now, and then I got super jealous because I wish I would have thought of this.
A guy named Michael Petito, who writes for the lead.
He's actually, when I looked at the bio, because I thought I knew the name, too,
it says he's a college student at Quintapac.
So I was like, hey, good for you.
But hey, good observation by the kid, though.
So I'm going to give him credit where credits do.
It was Jalen Brown is having his 94 Pippin season.
Oh.
And I was like, oh, that is so good.
Oh, that's good.
It's so good because Scotty Pippin
led the bulls. That's the first year that Jordan was gone, right?
And they were 55 and 27.
And he had career highs in points, rebounds,
and he was third in MVP voting.
And it was very much a, yeah, we don't need that guy.
I'm that guy's season.
Yeah.
I was like, oh, this is good.
94 Pippin season.
Michael Jordan's gone and now he's going to show.
And like Jalen Brown is so far through 24 games having his 94 Pippin season.
So shouts to you, Michael Pettito.
That's a good observation.
And that's a good callback to something that took place.
Now, who knows?
And the thing is he's probably not even born.
He's like, I'm doing the match.
Oh, for sure.
Michael Pizzator was born in 2008.
Yeah.
No, if he's in college now.
No way.
No way was he born.
But that's a pretty good one, man.
94 Pippin, because we don't really have these circumstances like this,
where it's always kind of been the sidekick, but the sidekick gets to be the guy.
And, he's got to be fair.
Brown and Tatum are, I wouldn't say like sidekick.
You know what I mean?
Tama is a better player, more effective player.
But they're more like sort of like a like a Wade James partnership.
That's fair.
It's one A and one B.
Yeah.
But no one has ever considered Brown 1A.
He did win the finals heavy beat.
I understand, but talk to Celtics fans and any observers of that team.
They have always held, like Tatum is the guy.
And Brown's the other guy.
Yes.
And now the other guy has gotten his opportunity to be the guy and is really taken hold.
And shout to you, Michael Petito.
Yeah, pretty good observation.
and I like that one.
I like that comp as to what's going on so far.
And certainly I did not expect Boston to be able to win
an amount of games this year that would keep them out of the play-in.
I thought at best they're a play-in team.
All right, I'm going to go, this is my first love.
Okay.
I'm having difficulty locking into Thunder games
because they're blowouts.
They're just not competitive basketball games.
So there's other, there's other games on that I will watch.
What do you love about that?
I'm getting there, man.
This is how, this is, this is what you do.
This is entertaining.
This is storytelling.
Oh, oh.
Come on, Berno.
Jesus.
No, it.
But I love the quest for 74 wins.
Because this is getting really real.
Like, this is going to be a huge story as we get,
as the weather starts to turn.
And you, I have to go down to the best.
basement and get that big bin of shorts that I put down there and t-shirts, when I go
have to go get that bin, this is going to be a huge storyline.
I think that the way it's pacing, this, I think this is going to be very close.
There's been like six games left and they're going to have like 70.
And they're going to have such a huge lead in the Western Conference standings that they
don't have to win those games, but I think they're going to go for 74.
This is a storyline that will keep me interested in Thunder games
because I can't watch fourth quarters
when one team is up by 35 points and all the subs are in.
That's not interesting.
This plays into what I was saying.
When you are so much better than everybody else
and you're putting up this historic numbers,
then every game that you play becomes a big one
because we are going to inevitably.
It's going to be a story if anybody's even up on them in the morning.
Yes. Yeah. I'll be getting text from you and my friends.
Yes.
If they're down by five,
Thunder game. And like the Warriors, I've said this before, like, remember they have to come back in so many games.
They played close games during those, that streak. These Thunder games are not competitive.
No, no, no. There's been a few. There's been a few. And there were many times where the Warriors would be down 12 at half time.
And then they would win the third quarter, 38 to 10. Yep. It's like, okay. And the Thunder aren't doing that.
We thought that was going to be exciting. No, no, no. They beat you 38 to 10 in the second quarter.
Oh, yeah.
And then they make the, and then, and then Chris Youngblood is hitting three.
For the listeners, we've heard of his five-star spiral notebook to get that name.
Yeah.
Chris Youngblood.
No idea.
No idea.
Unfamiliar with his work, except for the fact that he put him up by 50 last night with the three.
All right.
You want to do another, do you want to knock through the loves or you want me to go to Lodd?
Loat.
All right.
My first.
loathe the Grayson Allen ejection.
Okay, number one, it was not ejection worthy at all.
Number two, once he got ejected, it took all the juice out of this, right?
Because if he doesn't get ejected, now we get a retaliate.
Like, that game was so ridiculous, and it's a 40-point margin.
The only thing that could possibly entertain me is them.
You're rooting for violence.
You're spending the whole time just keyed in on Grayson Allen and Dylan Brooks and be like, someone get violence, please.
It's the only thing we've got left is like, all right, I want to see them.
I want to see them like really like wrestle somebody.
Like, let's just see because, yo, he decleaded him.
And you see.
I did.
You saw that this is the, well, actually, that was retaliation for what Chet did de Grason earlier.
I know.
those videos
started making the round today
he decleaded him
yeah
he did it with intention
but that is a flagrant one
because Grayson
he's one of those guys
where he really does
like have
when he
get the you know all the stuff
that went on in college or whatever
but like when he gets this competitive
thing going he just loses
his mind like he really
does snap in a way where and I've told this story before but he signed with Memphis
years ago and he was going to come to my room at Summer League. We were going to do an interview
with him. And of course, all I knew him from was his Duke days. And I was like, oh God,
this guy. I mean, I have my perception of what Grayson is now. It shows up in the room,
whatever, ends up doing the interview, hangs out with us afterwards, walks out. And I
I tell Rosa at the time, I'm like, I have never had a different perception of someone than what they,
what I think of them after I met them, right? I was like, how cool. He couldn't have been cooler.
He couldn't have been nicer. He couldn't have been more normal. The whole thing. I loved the guy.
And I'm like, man, maybe he does just kind of like get a bad rap. I swear to God, you can go back and look.
in Summer League, he like karate chop the guy in the back of the neck that night in the Summer League game.
Also, karate chopping someone in the back of the neck is a hilarious.
It was crazy.
And I was like, what?
Like, and, and I could, I was trying.
And this is, meanwhile, I've been trying to explain like, no, man, he's really not what you think he is.
And then I watched him and I'm like, I guess he is who I think.
What a nutcase!
Like, no, he just snaps.
Yeah.
He snaps.
I've seen it happen with my own eyes.
And he,
he just snaps on people.
And he did, like,
after he got body bumped by Chet on that rebound,
he was like,
he couldn't wait to go and just try to flatten him.
And Chet's got to get his weight up, bro.
You can't get,
you can't get decleaded like that.
I can't tell what's flopping.
getting decleted.
You know what I mean?
But I don't think Chet was expecting that.
No.
No.
And I look, so number one, I don't think it should be ejection.
No.
And number two, it ruined the, the fact that like something else could happen.
Bernard was just sitting there and spots blood.
I mean, he ended up getting done blood.
He wanted blood, he got Chris Youngblood.
Yes, Chris Youngblood.
Let me look back about it.
This thing will be up.
Sure enough.
Right here in my notebook.
Check your notes.
There it is.
My load is simple.
Not a lot of NBA news today.
You know, making the rounds.
Prep it for the show.
Zakeel O'Neill.
The worst.
Like, he comes back.
He's having these like 30-point games.
He's going like 10 for 12 from the field, blocking shots, being awesome.
And what happened?
What is this injury?
Ankle.
You know, he had the ankle surgery of the all season.
Now he's got a stress reaction, I guess.
And the shame of it all is they have been,
they've gotten to winning.
Their numbers have all been fantastic.
The schedule's gotten softer for sure.
But he has been awesome and has played like a top five center.
If you don't know who's Achille is,
we're talking about Zach Edie.
Zach Edie.
And Morant comes back tomorrow night.
Really?
So Morant got hurt.
six minutes into Eadie's debut.
Oh yeah, because he came back.
And now-
They've shared the floor for six minutes.
Correct.
And now we get the news today.
So they were about to be on the court
for the first time for any amount of time.
This is going right into, see, I know you and your Grizzlies' excuses.
This is going right into your excuse file.
You've got a manila folder.
Oh, no, no.
On your notebook, you've got a special page in your notebook with one of those old tabs
so you can reference it easily.
And it's your Grizzlies excuse file.
And it's, it's Zach Eadie and John Moran.
We haven't even seen the Grizzlies.
Yeah, I know the Grizzlies are outside of the plane right now,
but we haven't even seen the Grizzlies.
Excuse for way.
I'm going to give you a quick tutorial.
I'm not listening.
What's your first love?
There's excuses and there's reasons.
Uh-huh.
And you need to understand the difference.
Okay.
Hurt teams aren't good unless they're Oklahoma City and they have
Chris Youngblood.
Yeah.
They missed seven guys against the jazz.
My second love.
So after I watched starting five, that dreadful show.
You watched it?
No, the first season.
Oh, the first season I didn't watch.
The second season was awesome.
No, okay.
I watched a couple of episodes, the first season.
And I said, this is stupid.
This, I don't care that De Montezabonis is the greatest father to ever exist.
And all of this.
And, you know, Jason,
playing Papa Shot with Deuce Tatum.
Like this is all, this is all choreographed and boring to me.
The whole show needs to be Anthony Edwards.
The whole thing.
Yep.
Because he is an electric factory.
And then I'm scrolling through and it says,
new show on Prime.
Anthony Edwards, serious business.
Serious business.
Challenges people to athletic competitions.
And I'm like, sign me up.
This is my speech.
Then you want to talk about, look.
Then I queue it up and it says it's 25 minutes.
Then I have, as you know, a 15-year-old son who wears headphones around the house now because he's 15.
And I said, William, Ant's new shows on Prime.
A father-son bonding, but we watch it together.
This is amazing.
I can't get him to do anything.
Oh, it's great.
Yeah.
So we watch.
Bringing families together.
And then the thing queues up, and it's him challenging a female table tennis player who's like the best in the world or best in America.
She's an Olympic, yeah.
To play against table tennis.
But before that, he's going to play Marshaun Lynch is involved.
He's going to play Marshawn Lynch, who is, number one, shows up higher than you could possibly be for a television show.
No.
Allegedly, we are journalists.
Pablo Tori would never do that.
allegedly.
You do not know that for a fact.
You haven't watched this, have you?
No, I scroll through it when I saw the rundown.
They're in the middle of the show,
and he pulls out a massive blunt
and starts smoking it on camera.
There's nothing alleged about this.
You don't know what's in that.
You don't know what's in that cigar.
They tell him, stop smoking them black and mild right in front.
Anthony Amos is going to test positive now
just to contact time
for being around Marshawn Lynch
and Nas Reid is there
like in the crowd
and they stopped testing
and he's in the crowd like rooting him on
whatever so like you got Marshawn Lynch
hired in hell
high Marshawn Lynch is just like
a really good hot sauce like Tapatillo
it's gonna make everything better
it's gonna make everything better
high Marshawn Lynch and anything
and the New Year's show
on CNN when they've got like Anderson Cooper
and Andy Cohen put Marshawn
right in between the two of them. Tell me it's not going to get better.
Well, and I agree with you.
I agree with you. Anything with Marcia Nidge is better.
So, look, and again, it's a 25 minutes of my life.
So I can watch him do anything for 25 minutes.
And then, spoiler alert, he plays against the female professional tennis player
who they're going to play to 11 and she says, I'll give you 10.
I love it.
Yes.
Because you can always, like, get one just hit the net or something.
You know what I mean?
He gets a lucky one.
He gets one and celebrates like he's won the championship.
He won.
He's picking up his baby.
He's running around.
It's so good.
I can watch.
His personality is so good.
And I love this.
And now what's going to happen, and I knew this would happen,
because the show's out there and he's going to start like,
he'll do football, he's do whatever.
He's now going to start getting challenged at stuff.
So I don't know if you saw this, but on Twitter today,
he responded to former Sy Young winner Trevor Bauer,
who was like, come get some of this and whatever.
Dude, if I get to watch him trying to hit a Trevor Bauer fastball.
A Trevor Bauer's just put one up and in on.
Yeah, be awesome.
Be awesome.
A curve ball.
Imagine hitting a professional curveball.
curveball or like an off speed pitch, a screwball, a slider?
Are you kidding me?
I love the concept.
I love his personality.
I can't wait for this.
I will watch every episode of this television show.
Do you remember pros versus Joe's on Fox?
Yes.
Loved it.
It reminds me that a little bit.
Proz first Joe is good.
Some of those shows were pretty talented, though.
But he says, but he says even like they play that clip at the beginning.
And he's like, he's really like, if you taught me how to do anything, I could do it.
And they're like, can you play baseball?
And he's like, scrape cleanup.
And he's like, they're like, can you swim?
He's like, like Michael Phelps.
Like, I want to see him in a swimming race.
Well, this does that famous interview from before he got drafted.
Yes.
He's like, I'm invested everything.
Yeah.
Yes.
This is like, if you're a television executive at Amazon, this is the easiest pitch to Greenlight.
Like, we're going to have Anthony Edwards and he's going to do stuff.
And Marshall Lynch is going to be high.
Like, here's $10 million.
Here.
I can't.
I can't wait for the next episode.
I'm not kidding.
I just thought that you and William are bonding over this.
something that we actually watch together.
Unbelievable.
Quick personal story.
Me and my son, who is 12,
are starting,
two weeks ago,
we started Stranger Things from season one episode one.
And it's perfect because,
like, the kids are kind of his age.
And I was the age of the kids in that time.
And it's just like perfect.
Now we're in season three
and they're starting to like date and make out and stuff.
And I can feel like his energy from the other side of the couch.
He's kind of like he's into it,
but he's kind of not.
He's a little freaked out.
It's just perfect for us.
Perfect.
I did not understand how big a deal that was going to be.
No, no, no.
How about this?
On Black Friday.
So it launched on Thanksgiving night, right?
I have no idea.
It did.
Okay, okay.
The new season launched on Thanksgiving night.
Yeah.
On Black Friday, I asked my son, because I was thinking,
hey, maybe I'll go back and watch the other ones and catch up and, you know,
because I know he likes it.
Yeah, yeah.
And I said,
Hey, you know, they, you know, they dropped stranger things last night.
I saw that on Instagram.
And he was like, I already watched it.
And I was like, what?
Three in the morning.
Yeah.
What's the exact thing?
He watched it straight through the night it was released.
Of course he did.
I was like, damn, bro.
It's a huge show.
Oh.
What a big show is.
Unbelievable.
Huge show.
He loves it, too.
You know who?
And what's crazy?
We were down at my dad's house.
He was 76.
and my dad loves it.
Here's the thing is we have to move on
because if Greenwald and Chris Ryan find out
that we're talking about television on a ringer podcast,
they're coming for us.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Just out of respect for those two.
No, I've heard they're...
If the powers that be at Spotify,
if the Swedes listen to this section of our show,
they're going to fire Greenwald and Ryan
and replace it with us.
I know.
So out of respect for my friends,
we should probably get back to basketball.
Yeah, I've heard the...
I heard they,
got a sore spot about anybody talking about it too.
We could take those nerds.
Chris Ryan looks scrappy.
He looks scrappy.
He'll bite you.
Chris just bit my pinky off.
It's eating it.
He's trying to light it on fire and smoke it like Barnashad Lynch.
All right.
Go ahead.
What's your next one?
Love?
Nope.
I love this kind of stuff so much.
So there's reports.
there was a players-only meeting amongst the bucks where Janus sort of like told the players
sort of like, guys, let's just focus on basketball.
It's not distracted basketballs.
What's important?
They asked Kyle Kuzma.
Kyle Kuzma's like, I don't know what the hell you're talking about.
So I'm just sitting there being like, because this is after Yonis did the thing where they're
like, oh, you talk to the owner.
He's like, I don't know what you're talking.
Like something's going on with your bucks and their memories of their conversations.
Because these two things cannot both be true.
They can't have a player's only meeting
in which Janus addresses the entire team
and says lots of things that make Janus look like a good person
and then Kyle Kuzma is like,
I don't know what?
If it happened,
Kyle Kuzma would be there and he would remember it.
Well, I guess this would be
the only out you would have
is if Kyle Kuz was like,
hey, that's behind closed doors.
It shouldn't have leaked anyway.
You know what I'm saying?
That's a good read.
And so I'm just going to, I'm just going to
act like this didn't have, like it did actually happen.
But that wasn't supposed to be for public consumption.
He was talking to us.
And the fact that somebody has told somebody that this happened is, is not, uh, is not.
That's fair.
Maybe.
It's a possible.
Dude.
In the fourth quarter, the bucks are up on the subject's 95 to 82.
I take everything I said about Jalen Brown, can we read?
Jesse's here in the room.
Can we delete this part?
edit that. Just replace Jailiff Brown
with Miles Turner.
He's actually, he's actually,
he's actually 98 Pippin.
With the Blazers.
He's Larsa Pippin.
It's who I blame,
I blame Mike Pettigrew or whatever his name is.
Mike Pettigrant.
The kid, the child who's
who you're plagiarizing from. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, no, Petito.
Petito.
Yeah.
I know, because it's in my notes.
stop it
all right
my next
load
the Clippers
disaster
is even worse
than we thought
okay
so it's been
commonplace
for people
to acknowledge
that their first
round pick
goes to the thunder
which is
for sure
the worst thing
ever
especially considering
it might be
the number
one pick
in the draft
right
that has been
but they
suck
there's
way out of it. You've got like Hardin's got like a $42 million player option that of course
you'll pick up for next year and whatever else. And I didn't realize this until like earlier,
but they also have a swap for next year's Clippers pick. So and that's to go along with the other
17 picks they have over the next nine years or whatever the hell it is.
It's like the Clippers.
Oh, an unprotected first round pick to the Thunder at 26.
They also have swap rights in 27.
So just for what you were talking about how something tells me if they're going to exercise that swap.
I know.
And you were talking about how like we're going to be looking at like winning 74 games, right?
Yeah.
And that like, Trek.
We're going to get to the draft.
And they've got the Clippers pick.
Oh, I know.
Utah's top eight protected.
Houston's top four protected and Philadelphia's top four protected.
Okay.
And so then I went to the next year and they've got that pick swap with the clippers.
So not only they have 13 first round picks and 16 second round picks in the next seven years.
You're talking about how we're wanting to watch it.
Like maybe they can win 80 games this year.
And it's like, okay, and they've got all these draft picks over the next.
Like this is
This is about to get g-lea.
I've already said their G-League team
is going to be the real dynasty here.
They're going to win every G-League championship.
The Oklahoma...
Do you know who they are?
The blue.
The Oklahoma City Blue.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're probably loaded.
Anyways.
Who had the meeting?
It was like, what should we call this team?
Blue.
Like, what?
I don't know.
The Clippers are 6 and 18, bro.
Did you see Blue Ivy at the game in?
they're six and 18.
Well, they're, they're only down four to the rockets right now in the fourth quarter.
If I had, if Fandle was available here to me in California, I would do with that.
So I was talking about how, how bad this is going and then how it's even worse because they're going to suck next year too.
And Oklahoma City has their pick too.
I couldn't believe this.
Do you know this is the worst start to a clipper season since 2010?
Since 2010?
Well, they've been.
been pretty good since the 20th. How crazy is that, though? That 2010 team went 32 and 50.
Yeah. Is that Vinnie Del Negro? I can't remember anymore. Here's my next load. God.
Go to hell, Clippers. You're ruining this for everybody and you're ruining it for everybody for the, like, this isn't like a minor mistake. This is like ruining it for everybody for 10 years.
Yeah. You are ruining it for everybody. Because if they get AJ DeBancaster or,
freaking Caleb Wilson or Cameron Boozer.
Like you're so...
The worst.
Be better, Clippers.
Yeah. And they have no way to be better either.
I blame Pablo Tori.
I do too.
I blame Pablo Tori.
Let's go whoop his ass.
He's ruined the NBA for the next five years.
He's already fighting with Nick Wright.
Yeah, yeah.
We can fight with him too.
Fight with him too.
We can fight with him too.
Um, so you are, you are a sports member of Billy a nerd.
okay oh am i ever yeah um a Kobe Bryant card was auctioned off yesterday for 1.22 million dollars
this is ridiculous why there is no picture of Kobe Bryant that's worth 1.22 million dollars
like what are we doing I mean things what are we doing things this is like NFTs it reminds me of
NFTs like this is no it's nothing this is just stupid yes it is it's the exact same thing actually
it's the exact same thing as that except these have been around since like the
literally the most famous card in the world is the Honus Wagner from the early 1900.
So stop.
Okay.
This is not something that's just fly by night that came along.
When I was a little kid, Wayne Gretzky spent a million dollars on the T206 Honest Wagner.
So this has been going on for a long time.
Things are worth what people are willing to pay for them, Jacoby.
You don't have to like it.
I don't like it.
You don't have to like it, but again, that's not your thing.
Why don't you buy a different Kobe card for $20,000 and then give one point two to feed the homeless?
Well, in many cases, well, look, you're going to be, okay, now you're a pocket watcher.
You get to tell everybody what to do with their money.
Shut up.
Shut up.
Pocket watcher.
You had enough money to spend one point two.
You're like, oh, why don't you give that to people that need it?
People in need.
But the thing is, I'm saying that.
And like, I, like, my tax guy is like, so how much do you give to charity?
I'm like, I'm not much.
I'm 200.
Like, I don't know.
I'm not exactly, uh, you know.
Mr.
charitable?
Mr.
Philanthropic over here.
Yeah, I would love to see you go on this rant about how you should be giving money.
I promise you.
Hey, walk outside the door.
You find 10 guys that are people.
Oh, stepping over all of them.
Yeah, yeah.
Stepping over all of them.
Go on.
All right.
You got me about that.
I wasn't even supposed to be a joke.
Because you're a dick.
That's why.
Because you pocket watch and said that people should spend their money in smarter ways.
And they don't talk about walking over the homeless.
You're terrible person.
I'm a Polaroid of Kobe Bryant for $1.2 million.
To each his own.
All right.
My next love.
J. Bickerstaff reping beef stew.
I love when stuff like this happens.
So J.B. Bickerstaff went out of his way to rep his guy.
And he's talked about how they want to like emulate the old school bad boys and whatever.
But how good must you feel if you're Isaiah Stewart and you see the headline everywhere?
Quote, it isn't close.
J. Bicker staff says Isaiah Stewart is the best defensive center in the NBA.
Oh, so good.
I mean, this is great, truly great.
Earlier, Kate Cunningham said that Jalen Dern was the best big man in the NBA.
Because a guy like this, people aren't going out of their way to say that about Isaiah Stewart, right?
You're not seeing that everywhere.
You're not saying, you know who's unbelievable.
Isaiah Stewart until J.B. Bickerstaff puts it on front street and then people can have the
discussion. But the fact that your coach is even putting that discussion out there and then saying
not only is the best defensive center, it's not even close. That's how good this guy is. Oh,
there's nothing better than your coach rep and you like that. Shout out to J.B. Shout out to
Isaiah Stewart and
Isaiah Stewart earned his
sort of like oh he'll fight you
you know reputation but like
he's not really up to those antics that much
this year and he's just
he deserves to be speaking of
more than just like the guy that will fight you
you say that but I mean he tried to fight Bobby Portis
literally last week oh that's fair yeah
but his
his uh his fight to game ratio
has gone down me and Goldsbury
are coming out with a graph
we've done all the analytics on beef stew.
And I haven't told Goldsbury yet, but he's working on it right now.
And it's just going to have like a beef stew head, like way high up in the right hand corner.
Yes, way in the right corner.
Yes.
I love it.
It's going to be a bunch of beef stew heads on a graph over time.
His fight, fight to game to minute ratio, fight to minute per 36.
Per 36.
Yes.
For a hundred possession.
They've got a couple other on there, too, that are willing to do it too, because that
Ron Holland's a loose cannon as well.
Yeah.
All right.
Where are we loads?
Loves? Loves.
I just did my last love.
My last love.
I talked about him last show.
You know what you should do? You should get a spiral notebook.
It's way easier to keep up if you've got a notebook in front of you.
I hate you today.
I really do.
Do you know why I really hate you?
And I was like, are you sure that's the phrase?
And I googled it.
And you were right.
That started.
That started the whole show off off.
I was just like, God damn it.
I mean, interrupting this guy in the middle of his whole rant,
trying to correct him on a stupid phrase.
And I'm like, just deserves.
It didn't sound right.
And I was like, just deserves.
I get stuff like that wrong all the time.
Do you know that I thought it was unpurposed my entire life?
UN purpose?
Like, oh, I did that on purpose.
Seriously.
And then I was reading a book one time.
And I was like, holy shit.
It's on purpose.
It was like the end of usual suspects.
I was just like, oh my God, my entire life, I've been saying on purpose.
And no one's ever corrected me because it sounds close enough to on purpose.
And it was like, I was like 36 when this happened.
And then I was just like, I can't believe I've been living a lot.
All right.
You can't admit this on our popular podcast.
You can't admit this.
People are going to think you're mental.
You can't do this.
You can't do this on a popular podcast.
It was popular when KOC was on it.
Will you do your last love, please?
Okay.
I talked about Brandon Carlson last time.
This guy in the game last night, he got an alley-oop.
Like, who is this guy?
And he's like, he's seven feet tall.
He's a knock-down shooter, and he doesn't even sniff the floor.
He's like probably the sixth best player on the blue.
And he's just like, I can't believe.
this. I know we talked about the Thunder lot today,
so I'm not going to spend a lot of time on this.
But God damn, Brendan Carlson.
Dude.
Between Brendan,
between Brendan Carlson, Chris Youngblood, and Brooks Barnheiser.
Yeah, it's just stupid.
They're effing with us.
And Sorbers hurt.
And Topic, you know, is dealing with a testicular issue.
Like, I'm telling you, I said it on the last show,
they could split this team in two, and they would both be playoffs.
Unbelievable.
All right, my last load.
This is going to upset some people.
Oh, really?
Yeah, because I walk down the stairs.
And if you're, I mean, it's not intentional, but I, I have it, I have an awareness of what's, that it's going to hit a nerve with some people.
You can not say it, whatever it is.
I want you to still like me.
I love it.
I'm not talking about you.
I don't care about you.
I'm talking about our listeners.
I want you to still like me, even if you don't agree with it.
Don't say anything mean about Beyonce.
But we have, I want to introduce a lot of.
of you to a thing called internet.
And the fact that they, everybody now has Facebook and they've got Instagram and they've
got Twitter and they've got TikTok and they've got all manner of things, right?
I know what your family looks like if we're close.
This Christmas card stuff has got to stop.
It has got to stop.
Everybody throws them away.
Everybody throws them away.
nobody is you are throwing your money down the drain for me to see your family and then I go oh
and then and then I throw it in the trash you don't have a you don't play them all on a
for sure not no and the other thing is have there's people that send me Christmas cards I don't
even know them I did you get my address I'm asking my wife
I said, who is this?
She's like, oh, don't you know that's so-and-so's family?
And I'm like, why are they sending me a picture of their family and their dog?
Like, if I want, everybody knows that is something that somehow has not gone extinct.
And I guess it's the moms.
No dad is saying, hey, you know what we forgot to do?
Get a Christmas card this year.
So you moms, you got to chill on this.
You've all got Instagram, post your damn family on Instagram.
and let's move on.
Facebook,
whatever you got.
You've all got it.
But you're now,
you're spending this money.
You should give that money to charity like Jacoby would.
You should,
just like I would.
Yes.
Either that or a Kobe Bryant card.
But you're wasting money on these Christmas cards.
It's unbelievable.
I went to my mailbox tonight after I walked my dog.
There were four more.
Oh, no.
Four more.
We've got a gang of them
It downstairs
The worst is
I got I won't
I won't name names
And I know
They don't listen to the miss man
But I got a text
Like a week ago
Someone was like
What's your address
Oh yeah
And I was just like
Oh I was like
Are you sending me a holiday card
And he's like yes
And I was just like
You
Like you
Of all people
Oh he's gonna get
So mad at me
Now
He's gonna get so
mad at me. He's never done it before. Like, you're picking up this habit in the year of our Lord
2025. You're going to start now? Oh, look, he's going to get so mad at me. I'm going to pray
that he's bored with this podcast and not listening. My producer for 20 years, one of my best
friends in the world, he's like family to me, Rosa. Yeah. He texts me what my address was. I judge
those people. If you send it to me. No, then it's a freaking Christmas card of him and his girl.
Oh, no. Oh, no.
Oh, no.
No, you can't do that.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I know this didn't just happen.
No, no.
The girlfriend and the dogs, this is out of control.
It's too much.
It's too much.
Do you know what, do you what bothers me about, about the holidays?
A lot that bothers me.
My wife and her sisters insist on this matching pajamas.
matching pajama bullshit.
Oh, no.
I saw matching pajamas
in my house on like November
28th. I mean, you guys are planning a month
ahead for us all to look like idiots
and take a picture so you can
put it on Instagram. Happy holidays
from ours to yours.
Yeah. You should work
up a bonner or something.
Oh, my God.
It's the only way to ruin
the picture.
Just imagine the scenario.
It's the least likely place to quote, work up a boner.
Like holding a baby.
Like kids are everywhere.
It's Christmas.
I was just thinking of a horrible pajama picture.
Okay.
Okay.
I was saying how could you sabotage the pajama pitcher?
And then they're like, one year.
If you wanted to not be posted, that's all I'm saying.
One year they're like, I'm six, three, like two, twenty, right?
I'm a big person.
one year they're like, oh, they didn't have your size.
We got you a medium.
Oh, yeah.
And I'm squeezing into this thing.
Yeah.
And the buttons are barely holding on.
The buttons are stressed out.
You got to go warm up.
And now we're taking a picture.
And I've got like Capri pants on and my belly buttons out.
Damn it.
This one's easy.
This is the last thing I load.
Los Angeles is great, great people here.
Great weather.
Great food.
plastic surgery.
Great plastic surgery.
I got a BBL.
I don't know if you can see it.
There's certain days
in certain destinations
where you open up Uber
and it's like 4.5 miles
and then it's like 50 minutes.
And you're just like,
I can just walk.
I can walk there
in the same amount of time.
And there's nothing more infuriating
than just sitting in traffic
sitting there.
And just being like,
I can just open this door
and walk past all these cars faster than I'm moving in this car.
And then the Uber drivers out here in New York City, Uber drivers, many of them, English is their second language.
And if it's not, they just don't talk to you.
But these dudes will ask so many questions.
And I'm giving answers, short answers indicating I don't want to talk to you.
And they keep bringing up new topics of conversation.
It's infuriating.
It's torturous.
I would rather get a thousand holiday cards and wear extra small pajamas in the picture than,
have to sit in bumper-to-bumper traffic with some guy asking me about the Lakers.
I think this is a terrible thing to do.
I'm not endorsing it.
And I am putting his business out on a super popular podcast like this one.
But my buddy Chris Mannix.
Do you're going to have any friends after this thing that's published?
I've known Manix for him.
Manick sets his thing to death.
He does.
He says he's deaf on the thing.
That is really.
They have a conversation slider and I put it on like, no.
No.
He says he,
his thing says he's deaf.
Does he ever fake sign language?
That's when you're really next level.
I don't think so.
You're just making hand signals?
Yeah.
Wow.
Wow.
If I meet him,
that's the first thing I'm going to say to him.
Do it.
I'm going to say you are.
He's going to know I told you too.
Because he will,
he will like,
he'll brag about it.
Here's what happens.
Someone's going to at him on Twitter and be like Chris, Chris Vernon said this about you.
Dirkbag.
Yeah.
Well, you're a real dirtbag.
He's like, I don't care.
They don't stop talking.
I know.
I don't want to talk to you.
I just want to get where I'm going very slowly in this traffic.
Yep.
All right.
All right.
Let's see.
We've upset.
You're producer,
Rosa.
My entire family, we've upset.
Everybody that's.
Chris Ryan and Andy Rewald.
Yeah.
We've upset.
Pablo.
Jaylen Brown, Pablo Torre, Chris Manix.
Yeah, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
I'll give you live action updates.
Chris Youngblood.
Okay, he's probably the only one happy with us.
The Pelicans have scored 141 points against the Blazers.
141.
What's my boy, Queen got?
Queen?
17, 5, 7.
7.
7 assists.
Not huge.
all right and then we got this so it's what tray murphy it had to be a big tray murphy game
who else scoring it's not bucks the bucks beat the Celtics that's your fault oh man
the rockets i take everything i take i take everything i said back in bad article michael patito
Michael Petito's taking all of our jobs.
He's a guarantee.
These guys are going to be going to class at Quintapack
and be like, dude, I heard somebody talking about your article.
Yeah, dude, the Pelicans, dude, they got a hundred and forty-three points.
Oh, I can't even watch the Clippers game because I'm in L.A.
Oh.
Yeah, three-point game.
You might just have to head over there
and just watch the end.
Probably just walk straight in.
No, it'll say two miles away.
They'll be like 75 minutes.
Like, what?
Seriously.
All right.
Let's get to do it for this episode of The Mispatch.
Thank you to our executive British and Jesse Lopez.
As always,
and Jacoby.
I'll talk to you next week.
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