The Money Mondays - Daniel G + Coach Stormy: Make It, Invest It, Give It Away 💰 E158

Episode Date: February 2, 2026

This week on Dan Fleyshman’s Money Mondays, Dan delivers a two-part episode that hits the show’s core pillars: how to make money, how to invest money, and how to give it away to charity.In the fir...st half, Daniel G breaks down what actually creates consistent sales results—especially for women. He explains why women often have a natural advantage (listening, empathy, intuition), how those same strengths can turn into “kryptonite” when perfectionism and overthinking take over, and how to sell with confidence by focusing on the outcome your product creates. Daniel also shares a clear framework for getting paid to speak by becoming known for one thing, how to choose the right offer based on track record and ethics, and why every early “no” is simply feedback that sharpens your script.In the second half, Dr. Coach Stormy Wellington gets real about what holds people back from earning more—fear, doubt, insecurity, procrastination—and what separates average reps from true superstars in direct sales: self-worth, discipline, community, and an obsession with transformation. She also talks candidly about learning investing the hard way, why she prefers proven operators with a track record, and why giving back isn’t a flex—it’s a responsibility tied to purpose and legacy.Like this episode? Watch more like it 👇Watch ALL Full Episodes Here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs0D-M5aH-0IOUKtQPKts-VZfO55mfH6kThe Money Mondays is a business podcast here to teach you how to make money, invest money, and donate money by showcasing some of the world's most successful people and how they do the same. Hosted by serial entrepreneur Dan Fleyshman, the youngest founder of a publicly traded company in history, this money podcast gives you an exclusive behind the scenes look at how the wealthiest celebrities, entrepreneurs, athletes and influencers make, invest and donate money.If you want to learn more business and investing while you work to improve your financial life, you're in the right place! Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@themoneymondays?sub_confirmation=1Dan Fleyshman,The Money MondaysLearn more here: https://themoneymondays.comWatch all the podcast episodes: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs0D-M5aH-0IOUKtQPKts-VZfO55mfH6kLet’s Connect...Website: https://themoneymondays.comPodcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-money-mondays/id1663564091Twitter: https://twitter.com/themoneymondaysLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-money-mondays/about/TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@themoneymondaysFB: https://www.facebook.com/The-Money-Mondays-110233585203220/

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Money Monday's podcast where we cover three core topics, how to make money, how to invest money, have a giveaway to charity. As you guys know, I rarely bring back guests multiple times, but we're doing a back-to-back double-heder, short, quick, straight-to-the-point episode, so I want to get right into it. As you guys know, this podcast might not just be for you. It can be for friends, family, or followers from your past, present, or future. They might want to be in the sales game. They might want to be in the sales industry.
Starting point is 00:00:31 They might want to learn from someone that is absolutely crushing. with millions and millions of followers in the sales category. So this episode is going to be short and sweet, very impactful. You're going to want to share it, like, comment, subscribe, etc. Because we have someone that's absolutely crushing it, speaking in events all over the planet, flying around over 100, 200 times a year to speak and spread his message, virtual events, live events, teaching, and everything in between.
Starting point is 00:00:54 Without further ado, Daniel G, give us a quick two-minute bio, so we get straight to the money. Yes, I mean, it's good to be back. I started sales when I was, I mean, I wasn't, born into sales because I want to be a DJ and sock player, but I've been in sales since I was 14, started training a sales team by 15 and a half. People are like, man, how did you get into sales training? I'm like, well, I've been doing it since I was 15 a half. I've been training kids how to sell door to door since I was 15.5. The same way
Starting point is 00:01:17 you fall into sales as I fell into sales training. Like I was a salesperson for a decade. And I said, well, shit, let me just start training this. So I started training sales online and it started to pick up, you know, a lot of attention online. I had a sales agency. So I would publicly live stream myself training my sales people on So I got my first thousand followers, then my first 5,000, then first 10,000. And when I got my first 10,000, I was famous because you got the swipe up feature back in the days. Remember you, you're famous if you had 10,000 followers with a swipe up feature. So, yeah, it just started, I just started doing it now out of like responsibility. I felt that I had the ability to make sales, um, fun and entertaining and also
Starting point is 00:01:55 educating at the same time. Because I said, okay, we, I'm a teacher basically at the end of day. Like, that's my job. I'm into sales education. And I said, well, most sales people are. are crazy. And if, if most salespeople are crazy, they probably couldn't listen well in school because the teacher wasn't able to hold their attention. So I'm like, there's no way I'm going to go on stage and make this whole sales thing boring. So when I go on stage, it's entertaining. I make it fun. I make people feel like sales can be fun while they can also make money. Right. So, yeah, this is all we've been doing for the last decade training and traveling on stages, probably about 100 a year, 250 flights a year for the last five, six years straight. Oh my gosh. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Since we're going to do a short episode, let's just dive right into it. Why should more women get into the sales category? Why should they be doing some high ticket sales, medium ticket sales? Why should they learn sales? Well, they have all the skills. I love that you start off with this. They have all the skills that men almost have to train to have. So if you think of a woman, they already have the skill of listening.
Starting point is 00:02:53 It is hard for a man to listen. They have the skill of caring. It's hard for a man to care because it's in a woman's biological nature to care. Like you'd rather have a daughter than have a son Because the daughter's gonna take care of you When you're freaking old, right? If Dan Fleshman had a son Bob Well, when Dan Fleshman's 75,
Starting point is 00:03:11 Bob might not visit him so many times. So women have, aside from just the intuitive things Like the mother, the eyes behind the end, the intuitional feeling is that person telling the truth? Women also have these abilities inside of their life That works amazing inside of sales. So when somebody says, well, I don't have the money, a salesperson, natural guy is the hunter
Starting point is 00:03:31 And he's like, well, that's exactly why you should do it. A sales lady can listen and be like, oh, wow, why not? And she has the empathy to discover why the individual doesn't have money. She can consult them through the sale. The question now becomes, okay, Daniel, ladies have these things like caring, feelings, intuition, which is great inside of sales. Why don't they all make money in sales? Like, why isn't every lady making $100,000 a month?
Starting point is 00:03:56 Like, why isn't every bloody like a stormy Wellington or amazing people, people making a lot of money. It's because I think sometimes their powers turn into kryptonite, meaning like if a woman has attention to detail, that also might screw up a woman because she would say, well, I have to be perfect in order to sell. I have to look perfect. I have to hack perfect. I have all the credentials in order to sell because most women have attention to detail. Or maybe they overly care too much and they feel bad and they feel like it's manipulative to sell the product and it's pressuring rather than service. So a lot of the superpowers, my job is to magnify them so it doesn't turn into a krypton.
Starting point is 00:04:31 inside of sales. So on the traveling side, people pay you $25,000, $50,000, $100,000 to come speak at their events. That's overwhelming. Yeah. You're talking about flying 100, 200 times in a year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Someone out there wants to become a mini Daniel G and hopefully the same size Daniel G. Maybe one day they're going to have millions of followers like Daniel G. Yeah. What can they do to start getting paid to speak on stages? Lock down into one thing, get known for one thing. Make people understand like, hey,
Starting point is 00:05:01 this individual is in sales training, this person's in branding, this person's marketing. Maybe you can be motivational and you can teach people confidence, but get known from one thing. Don't ever stop talking about it. Learn how to make people money through your brand before you ask for money. I think that has been like my branding strategy forever. I'm like, can I make somebody a dollar without them ever paying me a dollar? And I don't think a lot of people think about that in the brand anymore. Like I've been hired a lot because if you go back to my social media, just like,
Starting point is 00:05:23 there's a lot of strategies on how people make money. And like I give so much more than I ask, especially in the sales space. I said, I've actually made probably more money for people that have never paid me money as to be my students. And I feel good about that because like it only has to be a bit. There's so many people inside of the world. So focus heavily on the brand, learn how to give a lot of value. And I think it's hard to be unnoticed when you just keep showing up and giving a lot of value in the brand and not asking 24-7.
Starting point is 00:05:51 So a lot of times people get nervous about sales. They don't want to post about sales. They don't want to post about their products. What would you say to them if they have a clothing brand or they have a snack product or they're a personal trainer, what can make them feel more confident to talk about their product and sell it to their audience? You have to understand that people wear a sign on their forehead saying, please understand me, please help me. I wish somebody, you know, took into account who I am. I wish somebody can help me with my problems and you probably have a product that
Starting point is 00:06:17 can help somebody. And you might just think like, oh, I only have a t-shirt brand. But maybe, maybe that t-shirt makes somebody feel some certain way. And I think sometimes people sell based on the product they have and not the outcome that it gives somebody. Like I don't sell sales trading. I help people live a better life. Sales training is like the vehicle, but the outcome is like helping people live a better life. So I always say, you know, the identity is don't get stuck up in the price of what you charge and the actual physical product. Get stuck on the outcome that it provides for another individual and realize be customer focused. Don't be like just sales focus. Be customer focus. Customers wear signs on their forehead walking around in life saying, please understand me.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Please sell me a product that makes my life a little bit easier. And you also have to understand, like sometimes if they don't buy from you, they'll buy from somebody else. Like everybody loves buying things. Like that's, I always tell people like, you know, everybody's a buyer. And the reason why I say that is because people don't walk around naked and then people laugh because I say they bought clothes, they bought shoes, we like shoes, we like people buy products and outfits. People buy everything. So I walk in. I'm like, the person's a buyer. I can never control the time they buy. I can only control my efforts to show them my products. So realize that people love buying things and people need help inside of life. So there's a multitude, you know, millions of options of what someone could go
Starting point is 00:07:29 sell. Yep. How can they figure out that this is a good product or a good service or a good person to go sell for? Number one, track record. I think track record is important. If we're looking at service and somebody's selling a service online and maybe you want to close a service for that individual, what is their actual business track record of what
Starting point is 00:07:47 they done, not aside from the sales that they're making with their current product. So if they're selling a service on, you know, how to do e-commerce, how they built something up where they've already made a brand and sold on e-commerce. Number one, number two, does the, does it, does it? person actually, and this can be crazy, does the person actually know what they talk about? Are they product expertise? Meaning, can they give people value for free without always asking for a dollar? I think people that are limited for information that sell courses, you can kind of feel that now
Starting point is 00:08:11 online. It's like, you just see the lifestyle, but I'm like, and people are like, well, this person scam me for $5,000 or $10,000. I'm like, well, shit, I wouldn't have never bought from that person. Like, what did this person ever give you? They don't have a podcast. They don't have nothing but just an ad that got ran to you with a Lamborghini or whatever the case is, right?
Starting point is 00:08:28 So just being consciously aware, does the person actually bring value to the marketplace? And I think the third one is like, do you actually believe in trust in the product? And would you sell it to your father and mother? Sometimes that's a good question to ask yourself. Like, because you could, I believe I could sell anything, but not forever. Meaning if somebody goes to ask me, like, Jamil brought into my office yesterday, he's like, sell me this plant. I could sell the plan to somebody.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Does it mean? Because when somebody says you have to believe in order to sell, I say, I disagree. I only agree with that long term. I disagree in the short term because I can figure out a product and who needs that product to solve their problem. I can find the customer like, I could sell a chessboard to anybody.
Starting point is 00:09:08 If somebody need a chessboard, I can go figure out who needs a chess board. But do I want to sell that forever as a question? Right. Like as long as the product's ethical, if I don't vibe out with the product, then I think it has a short span. So I think you just got to find something
Starting point is 00:09:22 that like you're like, okay, this can actually help and serve somebody and I align with the product. Then you can do it for a while. So someone decides they listen to Daniel G, they watch the Zoom webinar, they bought things, they're studied, they got it, they got it going on, but their first three phone calls, the person said no.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Yeah. How do they get back on the phone for phone call number four? You get back on the phone call by understanding that your nose are learning curves inside of business. Sure, I can go down the road of just saying, okay, your next one is going to just strike for gold. Like, you know, you're three away from your biggest deal inside of life. Sure, we know that.
Starting point is 00:09:56 timing game inside of business, you usually win. However, every no no, because you said, oh, that person said, no, thank you. I'm not interested. Maybe I asked them for the sale too soon. Every no, a customer is giving you a lesson within the script, regardless if somebody hires me or not, common sense and being conscious inside of conversations should allow you to change up your pitch a little bit differently. If somebody says I'm too busy, like right off the bat and you cold call them, maybe you should start off your pitch next time saying, hey, Bob, instead of asking them for a minute, maybe you should change up the script and be like, hey Bob, quick, I got about 20 seconds here
Starting point is 00:10:29 before I got to head into a meeting and send you over an email. Because I know Bob's first two objections are going to be, send me over an email, I'm too busy. And because I made three calls and three people told me that objection, like you said, now I'm going to start thinking, huh, maybe I should change it up.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Hey, Bob, I got about 20 seconds here. I'm busy on my end two. I'm going to shoot you over an email before you even ask me. Just so I make sure I have the right email. What do you need to have an email so it doesn't waste your time? It's a little bit of X, Y, and Z.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Just being conscious of wear your nose. I think common sense can take people a long way if they're not trying to rush it. Again, going back to women, women think about what they're saying, they can write out a better script. All right, we're going to keep this episode short,
Starting point is 00:11:05 somebody else's a couple more questions. This is a power episode. I love it. Investing into yourself. Yes. Why should people spend money on coaching, mentorship, masterminds, etc.?
Starting point is 00:11:15 Because it's like a time transformation machine. Like, I'm, I like, I hack time, literally. And I know people will like rip me, on this, but like I literally evolve into like a decade down. Like I go into the future into this time machine when I hire somebody that went through all the freaking mistakes. That's all I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:11:37 I'm paying for somebody's experience because they went through all the mistakes. And it's so cheap because those mistakes cost the millions. I'm paying one guy 20,000, but he, he went through $20 million in business mistakes. For me, that's enough because I think business is anticipation or elimination, meaning like, A smart business person wants to anticipate the problem before it comes.
Starting point is 00:11:59 We love solving problems. That's part of business. But I'd rather anticipate and eliminate them, just like objections and rather know what somebody's going to say and eliminate them. It puts you through a time machine. That's the quickest thing is that when I pay for somebody's advice, I'm getting put through a time machine. On the charity side, someone starts making some good money. They made a couple hundred grand last year and they're trying to figure out if they should donate to charity. What do you think is important for someone to try to realize that charity is a good component of their life?
Starting point is 00:12:25 find something in your life that charity is, you know, charity makes you find purpose. And number one, it's like the biggest reflection of God. So it's like the most pure thing that you can do, right? Like when you give back to somebody else, like that is the biggest reflection of God's image right there. Right. Like you're giving back to somebody else.
Starting point is 00:12:46 You're giving somebody else hope. Sometimes we don't look at it like that, but somebody else said, oh, somebody else cares about me. But I also say some people can give back to charity and they're just like, bah, I'm just going to give back to charity, whatever the case is. or you can find something where it resonates with you.
Starting point is 00:13:01 So you want to do it more. Like for example, like, you know, when, when, and it can be anything. Like it could be like something so small, like going to a school. Maybe you don't have money. Somebody here might not have $20,000 in the bank count. But maybe you have a skill inside of life. I don't know, maybe you have a sales communication skill or something like that. And can go back and go help people, go to a school and go teach kids or maybe, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:24 you're passionate about books and there's some kids that can't afford books and you can go make a deal with somebody and say hey by the way do you mind if I can broker your books to the school or whatever the case is find something that you're passionate about
Starting point is 00:13:34 so you could keep fueling it to help more people because you don't want to find something that you're not really passionate about because you just don't want to do it once just to say you did it. You want to do it with your heart because it'll allow you to keep doing it more.
Starting point is 00:13:46 So there's only one question I ask on every single episode out of hundreds and hundreds of episodes I've never gotten the same answer. The future baby G. Yeah. You're going to have one, one baby G, two, baby G, who knows how many baby Gs happen. The future is there.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Daniel G. Go is off to become a multi-gazillionaire. Yep. What percentage of your net worth do you leave to baby G? What percentage of my net worth do I leave to baby G? I would probably see, this is so hard because right now I'm envisioning myself, have the kid. And I said, there's other people inside of my life.
Starting point is 00:14:24 So when that kid comes in, depending. who's still inside of my life. I mean, I'd probably, I'd have to, if, like, the perfect equation, if I would have to give maybe 50% to my kids
Starting point is 00:14:35 and then 50% of the people around me that, you know, supported my life. If they're still here around me, I'd still give it to 50%. And other individuals, too, I don't think it's perfect, but I'd probably give 50%
Starting point is 00:14:47 and people might hate it, but I like when Stormy said something before this because I was backstage listening to us, I said, it's more so of like the character you build inside of another individual to see what they're going to do with the money. I don't think you have to hope that that person is going to do something great with the money.
Starting point is 00:15:02 I think when you're focused on developing somebody into a good character, you know they're going to do something good with that money. So if I do have kids, I know if I even gave them 100%, I know the character that I built into them that they would do something great with it because I would never say, well, I was never born for money, so I'm not going to give somebody money. That wasn't, our parents and answers just came from different situations, right?
Starting point is 00:15:20 So that's just my opinion, right? Where can people find you, your companies or business? You got virtual events, everything, what's going on? At Daniel G. At Daniel G, I think it's just very simple. Yeah, we always travel. We always have events. Me and Dan will probably have a couple events throughout the year.
Starting point is 00:15:35 At Daniel G. There might even be something in the future if you're a lady, right before we just started clicking record. In the future, if you're a lady, I was telling Dan, I think there has to be a lot more people that step up to the plate that can train ladies and sales. I think there's great lady sales trainers. And I want to bring them all together.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Like I want to bring, like I think sales has been such a male dominated sport. And the reason why, here's my psychology and philosophy behind, not just why women are great salespeople, why women should start stepping up because more women on the other end as prospects will start becoming decision makers. So ladies will start selling to other ladies now because 20 years ago, ladies weren't decision makers. Now ladies are becoming decision makers. They're starting to make money. You know, they're starting to be the breadwinner in the family. So I think it's so cool that ladies can get into sales and talk to other ladies more. So I think, I think it's like my responsibility to bring an amazing woman together after training a couple million and say, hey, this is one lady
Starting point is 00:16:29 in this industry and this is one lady in marketing and e-commerce and direct sales and network marketing. Let's all freaking come together. And let's go train everybody with not one intent of trying to bring them inside of our company. It's more so of just like whatever company you're in, whether you're a coach consultant, online armature, B2B sales, B2C sales, real estate sales, insurance doors, door to door sales, we'll train everybody. So I really want, I think myself and you, Dan, and a couple other powerhouses can come together and really knock something out of the park that has never been done before.
Starting point is 00:16:59 We've seen sales tours. I've done sales tours, but I don't think there has been a ladies, women's base sales tours. The guys are gonna want to come in the room. The guys are gonna hate on us but secretly want to be inside of that room. Probably find your dream wife too as well.
Starting point is 00:17:12 It's the right room to be in. But yeah, I think it's so cool. And Dan already has the greatest name in the world for it. So I'm excited for this. I'm excited for this year. I'm just excited, dude. all right guys thanks for having you i'm going to have danio g on multiple times that's why we're able to do
Starting point is 00:17:26 these short episodes i always hit him up whenever i'm in the miami area or we're in the same city while he travels around the planet as you guys know check him out danio g across social media make sure to have discussion with your friends family and followers about money and check us out next monday right here at the money mondays dot com ladies and gentlemen welcome to a special edition of the money monday's podcast where we cover three core topics how to make money how to invest money how to give away to charity it's very rare that i have the same guest on multiple times, but this is going to be a back-to-back episode, and both guests have actually been on multiple times.
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Starting point is 00:19:06 And it takes your efforts to do that. Now, without further ado, Coach Stormy, give us a quick two-minute bio. We get straight to the money. I'm Stormy Wellington. My new name is I just got an honorarium, my second one, Dr. Stormy Nicole Wellington. I love it. I am. I like to tell people I'm your average black girl that decided to live an above average lifestyle that dropped out of school in the 10th grade, teenage mom, ex-stripper, ex-schemer, ex-scammer, turned entrepreneur through the industry of direct sales. My first success came for multi-level marketing. That's how I learned entrepreneurship.
Starting point is 00:19:41 That's how I learned leadership. And now I have diversified. I think mindfulness is one of the most important things we need, especially in this season. And so I have a community. It's called Girl Hold My Hand. It's all about mindfulness. and I also am a mother and I'm really getting to a space now
Starting point is 00:19:58 when I'm trying to be just a better human to help other people know that you can make money but what about your salvation what about you know what's next and so here I am with you excited to share my new journey and where I am now compared to where I was the last time. I love it. So on the make money side of this podcast
Starting point is 00:20:15 what do you think holds a lot of girls back from making more money? I think fear of failure fear of the responsibility of success. I think that holds a lot of women back. I think also just lack of knowledge. A lot of women don't know that you can learn something new. You could become someone greater.
Starting point is 00:20:34 I think procrastination is a big problem. A lot of women put things off because they're mothers or because they don't think they know or even, how about doubt and insecurity? A lot of women don't, and just people, period, don't have a lot of self-confidence and self-worth. And so why try if I'm not going to succeed or why do it if I am not going to be able to maintain it?
Starting point is 00:20:55 So I think fear is number one. What happens for a girl who starts making more money than her boyfriend? Oh my God. What happens to a girl? Well, it depends on the boyfriend. The boyfriend could become insecure because a man is supposed to do manly things. And when a woman is doing financial things, she can seem manly. So I think that that's a dangerous situation to be in.
Starting point is 00:21:17 I also think that if a woman makes more money than her boyfriend, she has to learn how to try to help her boyfriend if she loves her boyfriend. A lot of men right now are not as hungry as I'm used to seeing men, not as ambitious as I am used to seeing men. So I think if you're with the right man, you can help him, not take care of him, but you can help him have a new mentality, a new perspective. I actually think behind every successful man was some woman,
Starting point is 00:21:43 grandma, auntie, cousin, pastor, sister, someone that pushed him and motivated him. to be greater. So I think women, we should be gentle with men and help them more, not shun them and talk about them, but know that they're going through situations too that they need our support and our help. So don't get too cocky ladies. If you love that man when he ain't have nothing and you got something, help him to get something. What would you say to the man who's in that relationship to not feel so self-conscious and what he can do to level up so he can actually still feel manly even though his girl is making more money than him? I was just talking about
Starting point is 00:22:15 that today. Number one, there are things that, most successful woman need that doesn't even require money. We require attention. Tell us that we're pretty. Tell us that you're proud of us. You can run our bathwater. You could buy some flowers for $100. It doesn't have to be the Venus favorite flowers.
Starting point is 00:22:32 You know, you could support us. You could protect us. You could affirm us. So that man needs to know just because that woman has more money than you doesn't mean that you can't maintain her in other ways. It's not monetary. And if she feels confidence from you, that would keep. keep her with you. When she feels insecurity from you, that's when the problem kicks in. A lot of men
Starting point is 00:22:52 that know that woman has more money than them, they start doing other things to try to tear her down. I've seen men that have women with money instead of them being proud of their woman, leaning into their woman, they try to make her feel insecure, like she's not pretty or she's not good or she's not great. Why do that? If that woman is with you and she has money and you don't, chances are she probably really cares about you because we women, we like nice things. So that man can't give you nice things and you're still with him, maybe you should start seeing that something about you is still special minus the money right now because you can get money later. So you've been in the direct cellist business and that whole category for years and years.
Starting point is 00:23:30 18 years. 18 years. What motivates you to stay in that industry? Oh my God. I feel like the industry needs me. I feel like as a black woman that can understand the heart and soul of a black woman, of a minority woman, because a lot of us as minorities, we have a lot in common. black, white, you know, Norwegian, Latina.
Starting point is 00:23:50 So I think for me, I feel like nobody understands us like me. I also feel like my leadership style and how I create systems and strategies and I simplify things. I don't think nobody knows how to simplify things like I do. I feel like the way I lead with love and, you know, especially in this new season that I'm in, I got a lot of God in me more than I've ever had in my probably entire life. And so having a spiritual leader who understands the downs, who understands being rich, being poor,
Starting point is 00:24:19 understands how a lot of us don't aspire to be entrepreneurial because people make things complicated. I don't think a leader in the industry, not one, simplifies the game like Stormy Wallington. And I also feel like I have a way of influencing and inspiring people to come together
Starting point is 00:24:34 and in network marketing more now than ever too. It's about community. Can you bring people together and keep them motivated or actually, you know, inspired long enough to figure out how they're going to make the money one day. Because you may not make money in the beginning. You don't always make money.
Starting point is 00:24:51 I mean, I've seen people in network marketing for years, and they spend more money than they made. And then one day, it's like, oh my God, I got it. That could be three years in, five years in. So I think I have an air about myself in a way of simplifying things and making you say, if she could do this, I know I could do it one day. So in the direct sales space, some percentage make zero money because they put into effort. Some percentage make a little bit of money because they kind of put some
Starting point is 00:25:18 effort in. Some percentage make some good money. And then they're superstars. They become the Stormies. They become the Alex Mortons. They become the ones like, whoa, oh my gosh, they're making millions of dollars. What do you think the differences between that person that makes a little bit of money versus the superstars? Oh my God. That's a great question. Honestly, I think it has a lot to do with self-worth and like dignity. When you look at the successful people in the game, You would find that there was someone they wanted to make proud, someone they even maybe wanted to prove a point to. It could even be themselves.
Starting point is 00:25:53 We don't stay in the industry because of money. The way we work, we could go other places and make money. But it's something about having that burning desire to be something and then to duplicate it. You know, like nobody is ever going to be a damn freshman. All those companies you run, all the things you do, how you get five days out of one day, we can't duplicate you. in network marketing, you can duplicate more than any other profession I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Like I have my community, girl hold my hand. You could create a community similar to like, girl hold my hand. But if I'm not there, it's not going to be the same. But in network marketing is different. So when I look at people in multi-level marketing, it's the heart that we have to become a part of a cause that's greater than ourselves. You've got to be almost delusional because you really believe that I can take this person that's struggling, that's not succeeding in life. They could be homeless. They could be a drug addict. They could be crazy and I could help them to become somebody new. So you have to really have a deep love, a deep affinity for transformation. And the ones that I see make the most money, you could feel that they are real builders of
Starting point is 00:26:58 people like myself. I know that you could build a company all day long. But the real legacy is the value that you put in people. And once you change one person's life, like somebody went from homeless or somebody bought a car or they pay for their kid to go to school or somebody I was struggling buying grocery, knocker buy grocery. It becomes like a drug of choice. For sure. And you're addicted like, oh my God, I want to help her. I want help another person.
Starting point is 00:27:20 I want to help another person. And even if you get bored with that person, it's like, okay, who else can I help? So it's that love and that affinity to build people that I think you have to have in mostly level marketing. At what stage of a career? Is it brand new, just getting started or already making some money? Should they consider joining girl hold my hand and like falling along that journey, actually becoming a part of that group?
Starting point is 00:27:40 I honestly think everybody should be in girl hold my hand. Why do I say that? Number one, we teach discipline. Most people who are entrepreneurs that don't have anyone to, you know, answer to, they sleep late. So that's a problem. When you are entrepreneur, I'm sorry. You really have to work longer and harder than when you had a job. So number one, we meet every Monday through Saturday at 8 a.m.
Starting point is 00:28:01 That's a big deal. That's teaching you discipline. Every day? Every Monday through Saturday, we meet at 8 a.m. live. Live. We read books. We're reading a book right now. spiritual hygiene. I serve as a reminder. I'm not as soft and sweet as, you know, your typical
Starting point is 00:28:15 leader. So I remind you, like, step into your greatness. Yeah, like, yeah, like you can have a bad Monday, but are you going to have a bad Tuesday? Not if you're a part of a girl on my hand. So I teach you how to know yourself, how to love yourself, how to embrace yourself. I talk about money. We talk about spirituality. We talk about mental growth. We talk about everything physical. Everything is about being a better human. And a lot of people, you know, I was reading John C. Maxx with a leadership Bible in one of the passages that says 30% of leaders, stop leading because they fail to grow. So how many people was the leader at one point in their life?
Starting point is 00:28:46 We ever see somebody winning and then they stopped winning? What happened to that person? Chances are they stop growing. And I mean, that to me is very devastating. To see somebody up for years, influential, you're inspired by them, and then you see them and you're like, man, what happened to you? It's because they stop growing. And so most of us grow in a container environment
Starting point is 00:29:05 where we are held to a higher accountability because somebody's there. Most people don't voluntarily grow. It's a pain that makes you grow. I call it the pain that causes the pivot. It's a community that causes you to grow. We really don't grow in isolation. We grow in community.
Starting point is 00:29:20 And there's no community without unity. So you need to get in the right community to continue to grow. That's like your community. People are stretched in your community. They know that they want to be different next year. They may even want to be consistently successful because they want to make Dan Fleshman proud. Like community creates that type of environment.
Starting point is 00:29:38 and that's what girl on my hand does. So someone's out there and they listened. They joined the group. They're ready to go out there. They're ready to get into network marketing. Before their friends are commenting like kind of mean. Next day there's another three friends that are kind of like, I thought they were my friends, but why are they telling me not to do this?
Starting point is 00:29:58 Why are they telling me not to do this business? What would you say for them to block out any haters or trolls? I mean, first of all, you know, if we want to go deep, you know, father, forgive them, forth they know not what they do, right? is Jesus being crucified. That's the last thing he said. Your friends don't know no better. And people normally hate what they don't understand. So you got to know that your friend is hating because of her or his perspective on what the industry is, number one. Number two, that is why you have to stay in a community, in a close-knit environment, proximity is power
Starting point is 00:30:26 because that's just going to happen. Like it's nothing me, you, and nobody can do. Whenever you start something new, especially someone who knows you, you're familiar to them. You become somebody new, you're on this new journey. You go tell your family, friends, hey, I'm starting this new thing. It could be multi-level marketing. It could be, I'm investing in Bitcoin. Anything outside of what they know you for, they're going to hate on it. So you just got to remember, you know, give them grace. They're just being what people are. People are normally haters when they don't understand something. So that's why you need personal development. That's why you need proximity to power. That's why you need to be connected
Starting point is 00:30:57 to people that's going to remind you. I experienced that too. Every successful person you find would tell you. There was a time where people laughed at me too. But I had this burning desire, you know, like Napoleon Hill talks about burning the ship that could take you back. You've got to decide on this new person that you want to be and you got to give your family and friends and grace and know that the haters going to hate. You just don't let it penetrate. So that girl listened to you.
Starting point is 00:31:21 She got rid of the haters. She blocked them from their life and she is thriving. She went from $2,000 the first month, $6,000 the next month. Starts doing $10, $15, $20,000 a month. She's crushing it. But she starts getting pitched. Invested in my hair salon.
Starting point is 00:31:36 invest in my company, invest in my restaurant, starts getting bombarded. What would you say that girl that now she started saving up a couple hundred grand and people want her to invest? How would you tell her to start thinking about these investments that get pitched to her? Oh my God, that's a good question. I wish I would have known that answer years ago. I lost a lot of money. When you start getting money that you're not used to, you buy five Chanel bags,
Starting point is 00:31:56 you invest in things, don't even know how to properly assess the things you're investing in. I have a rule of thumb. I don't invest in anything if the person that I'm, and let me have said the person. I don't invest in people's businesses, not me. I'm not astute enough to know how to evaluate a company to make a good decision should I invest in that person's company. So that's not my thing. Now I invested with Grant Cardone because he had a track record.
Starting point is 00:32:22 And I knew that I knew my money wasn't going to make or break his business decision. And I think that's an important kind of root of thumb. If somebody needs your money real bad, I'm not saying that you shouldn't do it, but just be mindful because chances are they tried it before with their own money. Maybe it didn't work or they tried it before with somebody else's money and they're coming to you too. A lot of times when people need you desperately and you're the last resort, you got to be very careful with that. I mean, and I hope not to offend anybody, but I've seen people, including myself, lose a lot trying to bank on people because you could be excited today, but I've given you
Starting point is 00:32:57 20, 30 grand, 100 grand, and then if it don't go well, you're going to quit because it wasn't your money, it was mine anyway. So I'm very mindful of a very mindful of a very much. that right now all I really do with my money is I invest in Bitcoins. You know, I buy Bitcoins with my money. I have some Ethereum. I have some XRP and I've invested with Grant Cardone. But for the most part, for me right now, that's not something that I would teach somebody to do unless you find someone that can mentor you in investing.
Starting point is 00:33:24 I would invest in things that I know for sure, you know, has no downside, for real, beside time, you know, like I know as long as I can keep Bitcoin in the money, the Bitcoin wallet, long as I can hold out, the longer I can hold out, the better I would be. So that's what I say. And again, I'm not making any income advice, you know, but I just know that you got to be careful because people could be motivated to start a business today and then they lose the motivation and now there goes your money. I have millions of dollars that people owe me right now because they came to me fired up
Starting point is 00:33:54 and excited about a business. And I believe in their excitement where I knew they really had no strategy, no plans, no infrastructure, no knowledge, and now I'm out of my money. And what am I going to do? It's never coming back. So be careful where you place your money, especially if you don't know how to properly assess businesses. So my next question is going to be about investing into yourself
Starting point is 00:34:15 into your own mind and self-development. But first, I'm going to talk to you guys about Bitcoin for a second because we were talking about it off camera. So I'm going to explain Bitcoin live and talk you through it while I'm talking them through it. Bitcoin is inevitable. What I mean by that is there's 21 million Bitcoin that will ever, be here. 2045 or before,
Starting point is 00:34:37 all the Bitcoin, all 21 million Bitcoin will be mined. Around 2035 to 40, it's actually going to start to slow down dramatically. So most of the 21 million, and why does that matter? Why do I keep talking about that?
Starting point is 00:34:47 Supply and demand. When you think about how many humans there are in the world and more and more are being created, and as they grew up in a cryptocurrency, NFT, AI society, they will be comfortable buying Bitcoin. Hundreds and hundreds and millions of people
Starting point is 00:35:00 will want to buy Bitcoin, but there's only 21 million in total. But wait. 4.6 million Bitcoin are missing and they're never coming back. People lost their phones. People lost their wallets. People lost their laptops. People lost their lives.
Starting point is 00:35:15 And every single day, more people lose their lives, their wallets, their laptops, and their phones. And so as 4.6 million Bitcoin are missing, 4.7, 4.8, 4.9 over the course of time, the supply gets less and the demand gets higher. Also, there's what's called the rounding error. Let's say Stormy has $82 on her wallet and it's just kind of sitting there on like a cash app or Robin Hood. She's not really ever going to spend the $82.
Starting point is 00:35:39 It's probably just going to sit there. What if 19 million people have $82 on the side and they just don't spend it? It just kind of sits there on their wallet. What if 190 million people have $82 just kind of sitting there that they don't ever spend? That's called the rounding error. More supply is gone.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Guys like Chamath, guys like Michael Saylor, corporations and countries. When they buy Bitcoin, they're never going to sell it. Whether it's 100K, 500K, or a million dollars, they're not selling. That supply is gone. So it's not 21 million. It's not 15 million. It's not 12 million. We're actually fighting for 5 to 10 million Bitcoin. What happens over the course of time as more and more what's called Bitcoin maximalists, very wealthy people, countries, organizations, stewards of capital buy Bitcoin and put it on their balance sheet. They're never selling it. And so at some point in our future,
Starting point is 00:36:29 as we get older and older, the supply will get less and less and less, while the demand will get more and more and more. That's why Bitcoin is the number one performing investment asset in the history of the world. Wow, I didn't even note it. Over 15 years, it's only had a few losing years. Wow. And so when you really think about it, all the roller coasters, all the ups and downs, all the huge swings we see, the year after year, Bitcoin wins. So that's why I say Bitcoin is inevitable. I'm not saying for you to go sell your kidney and go buy all the Bitcoin, but you should be adding 100 bucks here, 500 bucks here.
Starting point is 00:36:57 and if you can afford it thousands of dollars over the course of time. The math that you buy is all relative to your financial situation. So study it, understand it, get a little bit of Bitcoin and try to understand what's going on with it. Because over the course of time, I believe it's going to end up becoming worth millions of dollars for Bitcoin. Wow. Thank you for that inspiration.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Stormy. And information. On the charity side of life, why do you think it's important for someone to find the type of charity that matters to them, whether it's for themselves or maybe it's for a loved one or a friend, why do you think charity is important in people's lives? because we are always supposed to give back to those that either represent where we used to be, where we could be.
Starting point is 00:37:32 And I know that there was a time I was on government assistance. There was a time where I needed, my mom needed help, you know, and if there was no charitable organizations, we wouldn't have had that help. I have an organization called Girl Home of Hand, and it's a nonprofit. Every year this year, it was me and Floodd, we've been doing this for like seven years for Christmas.
Starting point is 00:37:52 It was so amazing. We took children to Walmart. Oh, I love it. And we actually had. had 500 kids. He took about 250. I took 250 and they each had $100. That's so cool. And they had to go budget. It was such, it was the most amazing experience probably that I had all year. It warmed my heart. It made me feel so good not just to spend the money, but to watch the kids, the things that they buy. You know, one little girl bought sheets for her bed and a new pillow and her sister, they share rooms.
Starting point is 00:38:21 So they both bought stuff for their beds and they bought lotion and to see the things kids are buying. that one day they're going to remember me. Remember that woman they gave back. So I think, number one, it's a spiritual responsibility to never forget where you came from and go back and help those people that represent where you are. Number two, the way you feel, the way you feel within your being is giving back. And then, and then number three, you know, remembering when you was in that place or somebody you know was in that place. And so, and I know a lot of people talk about tax writeoffs and all those type things, and I respect that too. But it's something spiritual that happens when you don't forget someone that's in a less fortunate position
Starting point is 00:38:58 because I know there was a time when I was that person. And so we've been running my nonprofit now for like nine years. And my goal, one of my goals one day in life is to build a transition home for young girls aging out of foster care. I wasn't foster care. A lot of people don't know that up until like for maybe like two, three years in my life. And having girls age out and go to drug traffic, sex trafficking and drugs and strip clubs and all that, that could have been my story.
Starting point is 00:39:24 if I didn't have someone that took care of me until my mom came home from prison. So just never forget where you came from and understanding the spiritual aspect of giving back to someone that represents where you could be and maybe even where you should be because of not giving back. You know, I think when you don't do things right spiritually,
Starting point is 00:39:41 you got to be careful. God's grace will come off of you. When God grace leaves you, you don't know what can happen after that. So everybody should have some type of nonprofit that makes them feel good, not for publicity or popularity, but for what you feel like
Starting point is 00:39:55 in your inner being when you give back. So there's only one question I ask on every single episode, and I've never gotten the same answer before, but also I've actually never had the person's child in the room when I asked the question like we do here today. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:40:09 So Stormy, over the years, you're going to be accumulating hundreds of millions of dollars, and hopefully Stormy becomes a billionaire one day. I can see it, I can visualize it, and it's a reality. Yes. What percentage of your net worth do you end up leaving to your children?
Starting point is 00:40:27 Okay, so now, yeah, my daughter is here right. Thanks a lot, Dan. So, interesting, I hear stories about how this man left all his money to the housekeeper or to the, you know, to the lady that took care of him. I wasn't left with anything when mom passed away. When she passed away, as a matter of fact, she left us with more debt. I remember when her friends saw me one day, I was like, hey, where's your mom? She owed me money.
Starting point is 00:40:49 I'm like, well, she's in a mausoleum, you know. So she left us for debt. So when I see my kids, I want them to learn the value of earning money. Because I had to learn the value of earning money. But when I leave this earth, everything would go to my kids. Everything would go to my kids. What they choose to do with it, I don't know. But that is my goal.
Starting point is 00:41:09 My goal is to leave them everything that I have. And I have three kids, or a third, a third, a third for all of them. And you're right. You know, I'm going to move on one day in life to make billions of dollars. But as I'm alive, I want to see my children know what it feels like to go and earn it. Because I know once they learn the principal and just the work ethic behind going to get something, they will understand how to get it themselves. People think I spoil my kids and like I take care of my kids.
Starting point is 00:41:35 No, I don't take care of my kid. Well, my 12-year-old keeps using DoorDash. I'm taking it off his phone today. One day he spent like $200 in DoorDash. So I'm literally going to take my credit card off his phone today. That's an assignment for today. But my daughter, I don't just spoil my daughter. I don't just hear, here's your allowance.
Starting point is 00:41:51 And people probably think that because I need her to learn how to maintain and how to build and how to become for herself. But when I'm dead, they're going to have everything. I mean, I have my charity, but I would not, if I was on my deathbed and I knew I was going to die in the next 20 minutes or 10 minutes, and my kids was not going to get my money, that wouldn't feel good. So they're getting everything that I have. We go to them three.
Starting point is 00:42:16 where can people find you online check out your businesses work with you girl hold my hand all that so girl hold my hand.com you can meet us every monday through friday at grow my hand.com we have our private zoom link and then you can meet me on instagram at coach stormy and yeah you could go to stormy one and ten dot com and everything that i have is right there so i appreciate you guys for listening again keep in mind these episodes or might be for someone three months from now or three years from now you might remember oh stormy said this or stormy said that for them this episode like, comment, subscribe, share, et cetera. And we will see you guys next Monday here at money mondays.com.

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