The Money Mondays - Elliot Roe Exposes How Your Subconscious Mind Tries to Sabotage Your Finances | E37
Episode Date: October 2, 2023Elliot Roe is a leading expert in Mindset Optimization for High Performers and is the world’s #1 Mindset Coach for Olympic medalists, UFC Champions, Hollywood Actors, Business Executives, Wall Stree...t traders, and poker players. His poker clients have won over $100,000,000 and nearly every major tournament title, including the World Series of Poker Main Event. Elliot's unique mindset coaching system leverages the power of hypnotherapy to eliminate fears and breakthrough mental roadblocks allowing you to operate in a state of peak performance every day. Get Elliot's Mindset & Hypnosis app here: https://primedmind.com/ Learn more about Elliot here: https://elliotroe.com/ Like this episode? Watch more like it 👇 7x Mr Olympia Flex Lewis & Bedros Keuilian's TOP MONEY TIPS 💪: https://youtu.be/LAA-OsePAOQ 'Lions Not Sheep' Sean Whalen + Boxing Champion Andre Berto 👊: https://youtu.be/kaeitVrwh0Q Timothy Sykes Made Millions Trading PENNY STOCKS 💰📈: https://youtu.be/EE2Dwe4Mvj0 Watch ALL Full Episodes Here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list... --- The Money Mondays is a business podcast here to teach you how to make money, invest money, and donate money by showcasing some of the world's most successful people and how they do the same. Hosted by serial entrepreneur Dan Fleyshman, the youngest founder of a publicly traded company in history, this money podcast gives you an exclusive behind the scenes look at how the wealthiest celebrities, entrepreneurs, athletes and influencers make, invest and donate money. If you want to learn more business and investing while you work to improve your financial life, you're in the right place! Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@themoneymond... Dan Fleyshman, The Money Mondays Learn more here: https://themoneymondays.com Watch all the podcast episodes: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs... Let’s Connect... Website: https://themoneymondays.com Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Twitter: https://twitter.com/themoneymondays LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-... TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@themoneymondays FB: https://www.facebook.com/The-Money-Mo...
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to a very, very special edition of the Money Mondays.
Out of all my years in interacting with thousands and thousands of speakers and structures,
coaches, etc.
There's only one that I've actually paid money to and hired to help me with my mindset
and he's sitting about four feet away from me.
But in between us, is the real Tarzan who gets over 200 million views a month across social media.
I don't know if that number's right
because you got 92 million views last week alone.
So I don't know.
It's going up.
The price is going up.
Yesterday's price is not today's price.
All right, so we got the real Tarzan here.
We have a very special guest.
As you guys know on the Money Mondays,
we would talk about three core topics.
How to make money, how to invest money, how to give it away to charity.
But because we have a special guest here, we might devate a little bit and talk about
some more interesting topics that really focus on the mindset.
So please give a warm round of applause to Elliot Rowell.
Woo!
Hey guys, thanks so much for having me on the show.
Absolutely.
And the crowd goes wild.
Alright, so Elliot, the way this works here is we do a quick two-minute bio
so we can get straight to the money.
Okay, so I'm Elliot Rowe, I'm a mindset and performance coach.
I'm based here in Salt Lake, Yuc-Tar,
but originally from London.
I've spent the last 12 years helping high performers
reach the highest level of competition
and actually really be able to perform at their best
in the moments when they need it the most.
So it's taking people sort of top 10 in the world
who are trying to get to number one. So this has been professional athletes, traders
on Wall Street, large numbers of professional poker players, professional gamblers, CEOs
of companies, and really helping them understand why they're running the programs they're
running, that are creating self-sabotage issues, and sort of reframing those and helping
them through it.
So you're dealing with a lot of alpha males and alpha females that are very strong, powerful
leaders.
How do you break down someone, let's just say for me, right?
You're dealing with someone that has to deal with a lot of humans all the time and has
to be a leader to break them down if you're comfortable enough to tell you their issues,
problems, fears, concerns, etc.
I mean, I guess part of it is not trying to break them down.
It's sort of trying to build that rapport, that trust, and understand that everyone's on the same team.
So a lot of people go into coaching situations and sometimes they feel like there's some kind of competition.
And instead of turning it into a competitive, I'm going to tell you what to do, you're going to do it.
This is, we're going to work as a team together to understand your subconscious,
and it's me and your rational mind against the subconscious program that's
creating the problem. And it's really, I think, that teamwork and understanding
that we're on the same team, we're working together to get that change, which is
gonna make you as much money as possible, which is usually why people are
coming to me. So let's give vulnerable.
The one topic, the main topic I want to talk to Elliott about was needles.
So I grew up and we figured out, or Elliott helped me figure out that when my father,
he was going through dialysis.
Inside, sit there and watch him.
They'd remove his blood for two to four hours at a time and have to re-circle that his
blood back in, basically clean his blood.
And I would sit there at the hospital with him or at the dialysis, for hours and hours at a time, and that's basically my main
memories of my father.
And so I think that was the main topic, and he walked me through like, why, why did I
see that, what happened with the nurses, like we went deep into that, and I bore you guys
with all the details, but I had this insane fear of needles, you see how you use the word
head, back in the days, right?
Yeah, used to.
Where if I said the word needles, my hands would turn pitch wide, I'd freak out, etc.
And consciously didn't bother me.
So I've told Tarzan this before before I've even hired you and worked with you.
I don't mind pain.
Hit me as hard as you want.
You hit me like I don't mind pain.
I'll go cut my fingers and hands in the ranch.
I'm not scared of blood in a physical sense.
Consciously.
Subconsciously, which you helped me break down is that I had this thing that was like a
stigma or whatever you want to call it, just like watching my father go through that situation.
But after the last few months, I can say needle needle needle, you know what I can say
all the time.
I've been staring at needles, watching it on YouTube, watching friends do like IVs and
I've, I still haven't done it yet personally, which'm going to but I don't even say once feel weird about it
yeah not at all not even a little bit and so now I'm like overly practicing because
I want to get to that moment where Tarzan and I actually have a group chat we're
actually buying an IV company to have IVs at the ranch that's how much I want
it like I want to own IVs not just like
What can you say about that main concept of what what you helped me get so so I believe that all fears are learned
So we come into the world fresh and we learn off is so from an evolutionary perspective So if you think about it, it was very useful for children to pick up fears easily from their parents.
So you're in the jungle, there's a tiger, your mom starts screaming and freaking out,
you know you're supposed to be scared of spiders, it's life and death. That's very useful for our subconscious.
Unfortunately, in modern life, it's not as useful. So if we talk about the needle situation,
there's something that's created a fear there that's made the, you're subconscious
believe this is life and death. And it's not a rational fear, but you're subconscious has decided,
I am going to protect Dan every way I can from this because this is something that's very important
in this life and death. So what we use with hypnotherapy is we can get into a guided meditation
state. There's no magic. It's not like the stage shows, but you get very, very relaxed. And then it shows you these memories and where these issues are coming
from. And then you can reframe them. So we can look at it from a more rational perspective and
adult perspective. We can bring love into memories where there might have been tragedy or there
may have been abuse or whatever issues. And by reframing those memories, the trigger changes.
So the trigger that was there is no longer there before.
I actually came into hypnotherapy because someone had recommended a hypnotherapist
for my fear of flying. So I had a horrific fear of flying.
The same sort of thing is you're describing. So I'd be an attacksy guy into the airport
and I would have like a massive heart rate. I would be convinced I was going to die every time I got
on the plane. Like just extreme. Couldn't understand it. I wouldn going to die every time I got on the plane. Just extreme.
Couldn't understand it.
Wouldn't even fly long haul.
So at the time, I wouldn't be here in America.
Went sort of him to the therapist.
She takes me through this process of getting very relaxed, tracing back the memories.
First couple of memories were just turbulence in planes, so made sense.
And then came up with a memory of me seeing a picture of a small plane at
my grandad's house as a small child and being told that it crashed and killed one of his
business partners. So it was really interesting. We worked through it. We went through the logic,
released all the stress and tension. Afterwards, I didn't have the same response to flying
anymore. And what was most interesting is I wasn't consciously aware of the memory.
So I spoke to my parents and I was like, this thing came up and I was most interesting is I wasn't consciously aware of the memory. So I spoke to my parents and I was like this thing came up and I was showing this picture,
was that real? And they were like, yeah, that was real, you remember? And I was like, well,
I didn't remember. And now I understand and because of that, I went and got trained as
a hypnotherapist because it blew my mind that my life was like, I could now travel the
world. And that was a really big deal for me.
So I'm going to become a nurse and actually start.
But you're going to buy an IV sense. I mean
You basically doing the same. So you mentioned
Children like realizing that there's a tiger that should run away
Yeah, can you explain why the real Tarzan would run towards the tiger and
I would make a video with it
You mom didn't shout enough when the tiger's
You know you talk about that and you know, parents give us fears.
Both my parents are like completely fearless, you know.
So I think that's where I got that from.
It makes complete sense because it's
your learning as a child. Like this is danger, this is life and death.
And then the subconscious kicks in.
And it doesn't have to be something rational.
And that's where so many people, like you're describing with the need,
they have something where they're like this doesn't make sense, this doesn't fit
the rest of my personality.
But for whatever reason, my whole system triggers
in that moment.
And the majority of the work I'm doing
isn't on the fears like this, but it's like,
people have it when they talk to investors.
They can't make the sales cool.
When their bank account hits a certain level,
I've got a lot of guys who, and it can be a million
dollars, ten million dollars, fifty million dollars, when they hit a certain number, they start
freaking out and they self sabotage and they bring that number down to a level they're comfortable
at. And it's helping people understand where this logic came from and how it's really just
they're trying to keep themselves safe because of something they've learned previously, but because
it was something that was learned, it can be unlearned, rather than this is innately
you.
So, the number one fear is technically public speaking.
Yeah.
Number two fear is snakes.
Why?
There's Tarzan.
The first time we got him, we're at the Muscle's house right now at the Muscle on Instagram.
We're at his house right now because we're about to throw a 7,000 person event.
The second we get here, Tarzan sees a mountain,
so I need like, oh, I'm going to go find snakes.
And he walks away.
I think it's cool.
This will be good content.
Yeah.
Yes.
Utah snakes mountains for sure.
So why do some people walk towards fear like that?
Well, I think it's because, well, one people like
challenging themselves, but also I would probably say it probably isn't a fear for you.
And that's the difference because it's not necessarily walking towards the thing that
really triggers you.
For you, it's interesting, it's exciting.
For other people, it may be a fear.
And just everyone has their own triggers and it's understanding that just because something
scary for one person doesn't mean it's scary for someone else.
And that's why we can have different different superpowers in
different areas. So you mentioned something, oh good. No a few years ago I had a
public speaking engagement in New York and it was my first my first year going
viral and I've never done a real public speaking event and I was petrified.
Yeah like literally scared and luckily I had to wear a snake. So they calmed you down. Yes, no, but I wore the snake right and I start speaking in a snake like literally
wrapped himself around my whole face and I couldn't see it
But I can still talk so now I'm talking on stage all these people and like literally I can't see so I'm like calm
Because I can't see this giant crowd and everybody's like cracking up laughing like guys actually this is perfect because
I'm really scared of y'all versus not
shit.
This is the good thing.
So, yeah, it's crazy.
You say public speaking in snakes and how that kind of merged.
And yeah, it's awesome.
So you mentioned that some of your clients actually have a fear of hitting a certain number
financially, 1,000, 10,000, 50,000, etc.
I mean, that's a fascinating topic.
Like, why do you think people are scared of money or success?
So I think it actually starts off that they're not
where they have a fear of a certain figure.
But what happens is when they hit that figure,
they find themselves bringing themselves back to it again,
bringing themselves down, bringing themselves down,
when they get past that level.
And I've seen really interesting things
over the years come up in sessions.
For some guys, they have a real
issue with making more money than their dad ever made. And it just comes up, like they
were, so they'll say, Elliot, it's always want to hit a million dollars or five million
dollars or whatever it is. And then we'll talk about the wealth of their parents and it
will turn out that that was the most money their dad ever had. And they've got some fear
of overtaking their dad because that's going to change
the social dynamics in a situation. Other people get scared of making too much money and
creating too much distance from their friends and peers and family because there is a change
in relationships as you become more successful and than the people around you. And sometimes
people like to cap that. So I can be twice as rich as my family,
but if I'm five times as rich, that might mean they don't love me so much. They might
judge me for being rich. They might think of me differently. And these aren't consciously
understood issues. So they couldn't logically explain why they have this, but when we're
in those sessions and we're going deep, they'll start saying, I'm worried about my brother
not talking to me anymore. My dad at the dinner table used to say that rich people were evil.
Right. And what was rich, rich was the neighbor who had $5 million
house. So they don't want to be that person because that's who their family was
criticizing.
There's also a lot of people who struggle with stuff, like fear of success
because if they can put a cap on it, then they're in a situation where they're
like, they're
just not going to fail.
So, they know they're going to hit this level, but if they can give it 80% and get to
here, they can still say, well, if I gave it 100%, I would have got there.
But they don't have to find out if they've actually got the potential.
So, some people hold themselves back, so they never have to find out what their potential
really is.
And that's something I end up talking to people a lot as well.
So we're on the money Monday's let's talk money.
Why should a high level performer, male or female, spend tens of thousands of dollars
hiring a high level coach to mentor them or walk them through some of these subconscious
things?
Um, so really it's a case of what the potential is, what's the upside potential and how are
you holding yourself back. So the way I usually describe it to clients, if I'm doing a sales call, I'm talking
to someone about whether I'm the right fit for them. This is, do you know what to do? Because if you
don't know what to do, you should find a strategy coach full stop. So if you don't know what the next
steps are in your business, you should be finding a business coach. If you know what to do,
but you're not able to do it, so you're not pulling the trigger, you're not making the sales calls, you're
not investing in the company or whatever it might be, then you need a mindset coach, because
more knowledge won't fix the problem, but overcoming these subconscious programs will fix
the problem. And then it just comes down to how much money is that costing you. And if
it's costing you millions of dollars, working with someone who has a lot of experience helping people through these issues makes sense.
If it's costing you, you know, a few thousand dollars, tens of thousand dollars,
it's not going to be a good purchase for you. But it's usually just how much money am I costing
myself every year because I can't do the thing I know I should be doing. And that's where I say
you really should be looking for a mindset coach of some kind. So you're on the high end spectrum obviously you're a high end coach for athletes,
poker players, CEOs, etc. Walk us through like the main, main concept of fees when it comes
to a high end coach. Like I had to determine since you especially get our bombarded and
you told me how booked you are. Like what are the main things you can talk about of like
general fees of what people should be considering if they're looking for a coach or if they're looking for an entry
level coach, how do they decide those type of numbers?
Again, it really comes down to what you believe your potential is. How much more money are
you looking to make to overcome this problem? Then how likely is it that this coach has
the experience to be able to help you to that solution faster than another coach.
So, you know, it's just, it's like gambling, you know, you're placing a bear effectively.
In my company, so there's myself at premium prices, and then I've trained up, I've got eight coaches underneath me at different price levels. One of the thing, and then an app lower than that,
so that we've got like free content for people and then sort of very good value coaching.
What's the app? It's called Prime to Mind. What's that cost?
So you can download it for free or I think it's about $10 a month, $70 a year
and that's got like three, four hundred hypnosis audios to work on confidence, sleep, etc.
Yeah. Preparing yourself for things.
So primed mind, 10 bucks a month, or $70 for the year, sorry, it's the money money,
so I can give you a lot of people.
Super primed.
And then there are sort of coaches who work in this.
Ball part pricing.
Ball part pricing is around 1500 for 10 sessions, all the way up to I charge 80,000 a year or 50,000 for six months.
So this and this coach is in between at every level.
Got it.
So when they're considering you think they should be considering based on either the financial
level or what the financial thing is, what about for people that don't know?
They're like they know that they need a coach or they know that they need a mentor.
They've finally realized that or maybe they just realized that you're listening to us talk through it.
Maybe it's not for one specific thing, they just know they need to hire someone, is
a base on their financial comfortability?
Yeah, so I actually think you have to be careful about, and I'm different to a lot of coaches
in this sense.
I think you have to be careful about overstretching yourself when it comes to hiring a coach.
So I will never say to someone take out a loan, I think you shouldn't be taking out a loan. It should be
something that's comfortable for you where the money that you're investing in
yourself isn't actually becoming a stressor in your life and a trigger. So if
if you think about, you know, what would you normally spend on a vacation? If you
comfortably spend this amount of money on a weekend away in California,
then spending that on a coach should be a relatively easy decision for you to make.
So it's really that sort of basis of it should be an amount of money where you can feel it,
you understand you're making an investment in yourself. But certainly when it comes to,
you know, should I be taking out a credit card, should I be taking out a loan? I think that creates a pressure that can have a negative impact on the money mindset
because you're suddenly in a place of scarcity, of desperation, of this has to work quickly
for me. This should be, this is just a very logical gamble for me to take because I can
see millions of dollars of upside and the cost is...
Right, spending ten thousand.
Yeah.
So we have four masterminds.
I have a $10,000 one, $15,000 one, $30,000 one,
and $100,000 one.
All different levels for all different types
of business people, et cetera.
I'm obsessed with masterminds.
We have over 800 members amongst these four groups.
It's not as in depth as a one-on-one coach.
The difference of joining a mastermind
is that there's a networking element to it
that it's not just about the instructors. it's about the other members that are paying
10K, 15K, 30K, 100K, etc. You also do live events. You just had an annual conference
like, walk us through in a live event format. Like, why should people be at live events?
Why should people go to group events or masterminds?
So I created mine. So why basically bring my clients together at a very small event.
So I usually do a maximum of around 15 people.
We have a large house that we rent out here in Utah
and we do a four day event where all of the clients
can get to know each other and network.
Unfortunately, I know a lot of high performers
from different industries.
And that means I can introduce them to each other.
There's a lot of the time where, you know, I want a reason
I want to be able to introduce my clients
because of the upside that they have
from having those sorts of meetings.
I think meeting in person is something
that obviously post COVID is really important right now.
And also as you're going through the levels of progress,
and I'm sure you've seen this with a lot of the people
in your mastermind, typically your social circle that you grew up with, you can't have the same conversations with them that you
would like to have. And you need to find a peer group of people who you can literally,
you can talk about your taxes and it's not going to offend anyone. You can talk about
how you're looking to grow your business and it's not going to offend anyone. You can
talk about having to hire and fire your staff. And it's not going to be an awkward conversation
because, you know, someone else knows that they're the member
of staff they're being spoken about.
So I just think creating these in-person events,
getting vulnerable is really important in these events,
and then just looking to help each other
as much as you possibly can,
because the more you give it,
these events from what I've seen, the more you get back.
So at the 100 million match,, $100,000 a person.
And the way I frame it for sales is everyone has to have at least a 10 million dollar company.
And I say, do you think myself in 22 instructors and 100 members can help you make or save one
percent? If I can help you make or save 1% and you do 10 million in sales,
I'm free. I'm free.
I'm free.
And the things that you learn and the people that you meet don't go away.
Right?
You meet Tars and Elliott and all these people at the mastermind and they taught you how to save 3%
and they taught you how to make 2% holy smokes.
You made your loss and saved $500,000.
You paid $100,000.
It's free.
And the things that you learn don't go away.
Now you know that tax trick or you know that investment100,000. It's free. And the things that you learn don't go away. Now you know that tax trick or you know that
Investment trick, etc. And so we were even able to sell it every year because of this concept of like if you do X and we can save you Y then
Why not and that's how I think all coach should should be it should always feel like it was free afterwards
So we should always be in a situation where the upside was so great or the potential for upside was so great that it just feels like hey
This is this is free for me. It's just something sensible to do
So I also don't think of it as a cost or paying. I think it's an investment
Yeah, and same you mentioned earlier investing in yourself
I can't imagine a better investment in investing yourself because again
It doesn't go away. We've heard people like Alex from Ozy and friends of ours that they talk about investing in yourself because if you
learn that skill you are changed forever and prices going up right and that's
something that's very important especially in our society where there are
millions of jobs that could get replaced along the way. Not yet people are
worried about AI taking over jobs. It's not happening yet. Don't worry. Most
companies can't spell AI. Don't worry about it
And they're still barely getting on Facebook and Instagram. So everyone's like, oh my god, everyone's gonna use AI
I'm like, I can't get them to use Facebook relax
Anyways, I can go on and doubt that forever
And so at some point though, it is coming that there are certain categories of jobs that people are literally gonna get phased out
coming that there are certain categories of jobs that people are literally going to get phased out. My fear is in certain categories like fast food service. If they start replacing
it with robot tellers or electronic cashiers, which they're doing at a lot of places already,
well, you're talking about millions and millions of jobs that are going to be not having
anywhere to go to because they don't have skills. And so I want people to learn. I want
people to get smarter, not necessarily in college, not necessarily in the thing that people in a traditional society.
I think that trade schools are going to be much bigger than ever because trade jobs and
trade schools are going to be huge. They are not going to replace chefs. They're not going to
replace actual doctors. They're not going to replace nurses with robots. I'm not going to
trust a robot nurse. I'm not going to trust. I also don't want a robot chef.
Yeah.
People like to have cooked with love, not cooked by robots.
So the point is that I think in our society that people,
the reason I'm so passionate about learning
is I want people to get smarter, more efficient, more functional,
because we're in a place in our society
that the government wants us to depend on them.
And the more we can depend on ourselves and each other,
the less control that they have in that scenario.
And I'm not like anti-government, I'm pro-us. I want everyone to succeed on their own and not have to worry about getting a $1200 stimulus check.
I want them to worry about, well shoot, I need to get $12 million because I have an extra $10.
So, investing to yourself, it changes your life forever. If you learn a language, you can now become a tutor in that language.
If you learn a skill on computer programming, you can now charge a lot of money for a computer programming.
The same thing applies for a guitar, language lessons, anything that you do, if you learn how to run podcasts,
you can now teach people how to do podcasts.
These skills are attainable because you can learn online or learn from a mentor.
So, my question is, we have people talking about making money, we've talked about investing
yourself, what about on the charity side?
Why do you think that charity is important for individuals or for businesses?
So, I think for an individual basis, certainly a lot of the people I work with work in zero sum games.
So they're working on the stock market or they're working in poker or their professional
gamblers and they often don't feel like they're giving anything back.
So they're making this money but then they're sort of questioning, hey, wait a minute, what
did I do that for?
And I think they're giving it back, really gives purpose and it allows you to then choose to reach another level.
So there's a reason for becoming even more successful
once your needs are met.
Once you've got the, even the luxuries are met.
Why would you continue pushing yourself
or reaching a full potential?
Well, if you can impact hundreds of thousands of people,
if you can impact millions of people,
you can really start to feel good about yourself
and you can
encourage other people then copy you and they'll do the same thing. I mean with
the app one of the reasons we brought that out and we made it free for certain
sections like education, for exam stress, all of those ones are always free for
people to listen to was just one of these like how do we give back, how do we make
sure there's some content for literally anyone on the planet who has a phone so that they can work on their mindset and
it's just they can put in the initial work without having the excuse of I don't know you know
I don't have the money to pay for it it's like cool it's free put in 10 minutes listen to an audio
try and boost yourself so that's how I viewed it is like the more you can give, the better you feel about yourself,
and then the more of a reason that you have for then pushing yourself over and testing your potential.
Why should companies, CEOs, and owners consider hiring coaches and mentors for their top executives or for their general staff?
Again, I think this is a, hey, do your team know what to do, but they're not able to do it.
So if you haven't educated your team, and they're really just unsure if they're just stuck,
then obviously you need consultants, you need business coaches.
And if your team are just there in fighting, there are issues with communication, there's
cultural issues.
If you can fix a cultural issue in a company, or if you can help people uncover work through
these blockages, you're going to have a more
efficient, more effective team, and also they're going to feel cared for.
And if they feel cared for, they're much more likely to stay with you longer.
And if you have good team, losing them is extraordinarily expensive.
And investing in them, you know, it's not cheap, but it's not as expensive as
losing key members of staff.
And I think some owners of companies get scared about investing in their staff in case they leave.
You come to a high level?
Yeah, and some people may, but the truth of it is, they're going to go anywhere.
They're going to go anywhere.
And you've got a much better team through that period.
So I think that's one of the fears some CEOs have.
Well, if I give too much training, they're just going to leave me. It's like, well, instead, you might have an inefficient
team. How much more dangerous is that?
For sure. Yeah. One of my biggest, I feel like accomplishments, if you will, is that almost
all my staff has been with me for three to ten years. I have very little turn, I can name
the few people out of the 5100 employees, like, they don't leave, because I do train them.
I pay them the right amount.
I make an environment where they get to run their department
or run their world.
And I get to be in the background as the coach or the helper,
the, I don't know what they call it, the boss,
because we're working together.
I'm not like this unless they're doing something wrong.
Like, I'm not like yelling at them.
You know, and I can, most of my executives and most of the staff in general is just like I can
Three years five years seven years eight years nine years ten years because I don't want to replace them. Yeah, I don't want them to leave
And so I also tell them very bluntly like if you are considering leaving let's have a discussion about it because I don't want you to leave
and
I'm firing people that are passionate about their niche
of what they do with me or for me.
Whether it's the agency, the live events, the masterminds,
Asai bowls, and sports cars, whatever we're doing,
the ranch, I want to find the best animal person
to plan it, right?
I wouldn't do it, a sanctuary without the number one
guy in the world, right?
And so I look at those type of things
that making them the best that they can be, I'm not scared about them leaving.
Yeah.
I'm not.
And the actually there was one guy that left as I force him to leave because he was going to go work with ClickUp because he was one of the co-founders to ClickUp.
There's a $4 billion company. Bro, go, you should go.
And I still talk about it.
Sounds like a good idea.
Yeah, yeah.
I love him, but like, go.
Okay, last thing
Tarzan
Are there any animals that you are scared of?
Humans, all the time, humans, but actually, no, um, but actually, yes, yeah, actually yes.
Animals that don't really scare me, I used to have, I used to be petrified of tarantulas and spiders
for a long time when I was a kid.
You went on your face recently?
Yeah.
I've gotten over that fear because I could never understand them.
Do you have a tattoo on?
Yeah, I have on my throat.
I have a big little good of tarantulas on my throat.
And the reason I got it there for that placement
is because I literally had to put one.
Like I could not live with myself being scared of tarantulas and centipedes and
stuff like that. I spent a couple years at a reptile facility in Florida and I
was honored to have a bug coach. Wow. He was just gotten in Pete Katz. I never
forget him. He's one of my dearest friends till this day. Old man, he's from
upstate New York and he is obsessed with bugs.
And I used to go inside his room
and he'd have like, we do imports and exports.
He'd have like a thousand for Angela's.
He's got to take out of these little cups,
put them in a little bit, two inch bigger cup,
give him food, give him water.
And he's thinking to escape and each grab him,
put him in and I'm freaking out.
And one day I said, I just sat right next to him
and I saw him going piece by piece animal by animal.
I'm like, dude, how?
He goes just like this and grabs one.
He puts it on me and then it starts putting
all these triangles on me.
I'm just like, bro, oh my God.
They're just all over me.
He goes, Mike, 95% of the time this animal
will never bite the surface on.
Understand that? Cook it in your brain like eat it live it live and die by it. You're not gonna get bit
95% chance not getting bit. Yeah, don't worry about it. And how'd you feel about it off to it? Oh when they came off
We just like good freedom. Yeah, so much freedom to know that someone's still knowledgeable. I respect it so much
My bug coach, you know and
Tarzan explain to Elliott Row and some millions of people in the money Mondays. Why do you say that you're scared of humans?
Man being scared of humans is
It's a thing, you know that I'm
I'm real passionate about
that I'm real passionate about putting out the good message on animals, because people think pit bulls are bad or snakes are bad or spiders are bad.
But if you see a snake and he's trying to bite you, he's trying to bite you.
If you see a person in some island, you might not be smiling.
He could try to bite you.
A snake's not going to, or a dog or a gorilla is not going to try to make friends with you
and then
just, you know, attack you for no reason.
They're gonna attack you or give you many signs to let you know, hey, I don't want to be
talk to, I don't want to be messed with, I don't want to be touched, whereas humans, they
can mash that really well, you know, and it's sometimes really hard with 8 billion people,
with 8 billion personalities.
You got to kind of like weed through those moments, especially when you're close to somebody.
And it's scary.
It's actually, it's more petrifying than the spider aspect, you know, because 95% of the
time, you might get bit.
You get 5% of those friends out there, you know.
And I'm lucky to have a very small circle of that 5%, but I'm really scared of that 95%
of people.
Yeah.
Elliot Row, tell us, where can people find you the prime mine app?
Tell us through everything.
Elliot World.
Elliot World, yeah, so if you're interested in coaching, go to
ElliotRow.com.
You can apply for coaching.
As I say, we've got coaches at every different price level and I've trained them so they're
running through the same techniques as me. So yeah the app, eliotro.com and Prime Mind is on the iTunes store, you know, on your
Android. So search Prime Mind or primedmind.com. There's information about the app. You can
download it there and, yeah, I hope to change some lives and change some mindsets. So thank
you so much. We want to change my life. We're going to get you back here. Obviously, we're
going to be doing more of these episodes
with you as we go through our coaching career
with you helping me and we're working together
on events, et cetera.
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